Obama makes fun of the Special Olympics

[agmc27]

.....on Leno tonight. Watch it. He was describing his recent bowling performance in the White House bowling alley. In my opinion, I don't think our president should be on a comedy show during a national economic crisis anyway but I guess that's the president he is choosing to be.

[the_phoenix612]

.....on Leno tonight. Watch it. He was describing his recent bowling performance in the White House bowling alley. In my opinion, I don't think our president should be on a comedy show during a national economic crisis anyway but I guess that's the president he is choosing to be.

so he should be working 24/7, even when everyone else in government goes home?

Do you want Congress to live in their offices and legislate 24/7???

IMO, after 9 at night, he can do whatever he wants... The man is President, yeah, but he's still a human being. Nobody can work ALL the time...

Bush set a record for most days off. Didn't see anybody posting here every time he went to Crawford going "Hey! We're at war! He should be WORKING!"...

[hunterbunter]

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_o49RhMqmBRY/SRHtg0oWuzI/AAAAAAAAA-w/4ZAO4T58SS4/s800/booyahBama.jpg

[DrEdward]

so he should be working 24/7, even when everyone else in government goes home?

Do you want Congress to live in their offices and legislate 24/7???

IMO, after 9 at night, he can do whatever he wants... The man is President, yeah, but he's still a human being. Nobody can work ALL the time...

Bush set a record for most days off. Didn't see anybody posting here every time he went to Crawford going "Hey! We're at war! He should be WORKING!"...

I agree that no one should expect him to be working constantly. It also certainly appears he is not doing so. He has been in office about 50 days or so now and has bounced about the country pretty regulalrly thus far - Chicago, Williamsburg, Camp David, Denver, Phoenix, Los Angeles & Burbank - am I leaving some place out? Georgia? Plus the Wednesday night entertainment gigs.

And, yes, some of us were rather critical of Bush spending so much time on the ranch while our troops were in combat. But neither have I seen anyone complaining every time Obama heads out of town either.

[CoveMom]

so he should be working 24/7, even when everyone else in government goes home?

Do you want Congress to live in their offices and legislate 24/7???

IMO, after 9 at night, he can do whatever he wants... The man is President, yeah, but he's still a human being. Nobody can work ALL the time...

Bush set a record for most days off. Didn't see anybody posting here every time he went to Crawford going "Hey! We're at war! He should be WORKING!"...

I like how you zero in on the time off thing but ignore the implication that he may have made fun of special olympics participants.....

I predict an apology for the inadvertent insult, if it is true he did so on Leno. That's the way it's done nowadays.

[CoveMom]

so he should be working 24/7, even when everyone else in government goes home?

Do you want Congress to live in their offices and legislate 24/7???

IMO, after 9 at night, he can do whatever he wants... The man is President, yeah, but he's still a human being. Nobody can work ALL the time...

Bush set a record for most days off. Didn't see anybody posting here every time he went to Crawford going "Hey! We're at war! He should be WORKING!"...

Do I think he should have maybe stayed in Washington more than he did? Yes.


Do I truly believe the man had a SINGLE day off in the 8 years he served as POTUS? HELL NO. And you are certainly bright enough to realize the same damn thing.

And guess what, Obama won't have any either. Sooner he realizes that the better we will all be.

[agmc27]

Bush set a record for most days off. Didn't see anybody posting here every time he went to Crawford going "Hey! We're at war! He should be WORKING!"...

When did i ever mention bush?.....lol...a typical liberal dodge. They can't deny the allegation so they try to justify it by talking about how other people do it too.

[svhorns]

nm

[the_phoenix612]

I like how you zero in on the time off thing but ignore the implication that he may have made fun of special olympics participants.....

I predict an apology for the inadvertent insult, if it is true he did so on Leno. That's the way it's done nowadays.

I'm waiting on proof that he did, in fact, make fun of the special olympics. I'm highly skeptical of that implication.

[drgnbkr]

so he should be working 24/7, even when everyone else in government goes home?

Do you want Congress to live in their offices and legislate 24/7???

IMO, after 9 at night, he can do whatever he wants... The man is President, yeah, but he's still a human being. Nobody can work ALL the time...

Bush set a record for most days off. Didn't see anybody posting here every time he went to Crawford going "Hey! We're at war! He should be WORKING!"...

I'd settle for him just having a clue...But that is clearly too much to expect with the guy....

[CyFallsMom]

so he should be working 24/7, even when everyone else in government goes home?

Do you want Congress to live in their offices and legislate 24/7???

IMO, after 9 at night, he can do whatever he wants... The man is President, yeah, but he's still a human being. Nobody can work ALL the time...

Bush set a record for most days off. Didn't see anybody posting here every time he went to Crawford going "Hey! We're at war! He should be WORKING!"...

Secretly, you are a Hitler - I mean Obama - Youth aren't you? I finally figured that out. I'll bet you have a big old poster of Obama on your wall too so he is near at all times. At any rate, this is a typical, 17 year old response. NOWHERE was Bush mentioned. It's called reading comprehension. The more you people go on about Bush this and Bush that, the better he is looking. I hear these ignorant Obamanuts on the radio and they just call and scream and then start bashing Bush. I have news for you all - Bush is out and these current money issues are being festered by Obama and his gang.

Obama was without teleprompters on Leno and stuck his big ugly foot in his mouth again!! He is a moron who can't function without his toys. He is trying to take any dignity that might be left out of the most powerful office in the world. It's a shame. He's worse than Michelle the other day talking about the great Chicken and grits they make in the White House kitchen. I keep picturing Weezy Jefferson or Bubba Gump's mom. Although, I do love both Chicken AND grits;)

[CyFallsMom]

I'm waiting on proof that he did, in fact, make fun of the special olympics. I'm highly skeptical of that implication.

here ya go

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/03/19/obama-tells-leno-stunned-aig-bonuses/

And they are already apologizing for it. It wasn't a big comment but when you are the president, there just might be a few mentally challenged people out there who admire you - oh wait, his entire fanbase is mentally challenged!! At any rate, he has no room to make fun of anyone nor should he be. You want to talk Bush - he had more class in his little finger and still does and always will than this joker.

[Slim-Rob]

phoenix=fail.

How many Obama t-shirts do you have? Do you pay for all your stuff only in change? Will you be saying the same stuff in 4 years when you can actually VOTE and will you be voting for Obama? Do you think this idiot country will realize their mistake in the next 4 years??? lol

[Fleeman93]

Man you guys are gullible! Phoenix threw it out there and you guys snatched up on it hook line an sinker. Phoenix can't be that stupid.

[hunterbunter]

some of ya'll take things way too seriously. so the man made a poor joke. who hasn't. geez get over it.

[the_phoenix612]

phoenix=fail.

How many Obama t-shirts do you have? Do you pay for all your stuff only in change? Will you be saying the same stuff in 4 years when you can actually VOTE and will you be voting for Obama? Do you think this idiot country will realize their mistake in the next 4 years??? lol

0. no. probably. no.

Wow. I can't believe he actually said that.... Not to excuse it, but honestly, how many of you have let something like that slip? I know I have....

But...wow... that's kinda a big slip.

[rwilleby]

Obama is a clown and an embarrassment to the office...

[Bass]

I'm a little more worried about what the bi... Speaker is up to.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/03/18/pelosi-tells-illegal-immigrants-work-site-raids-american/

[ChanSHS]

Obama is a clown and an embarrassment to the office...

Um, ok? Sounds like he fits right in with the majority of the past presidents then.

[Owned05]

I'm a little more worried about what the bi... Speaker is up to.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/03/18/pelosi-tells-illegal-immigrants-work-site-raids-american/

Pelosi is not only un-American, but also a complete ho bag.

[Slim-Rob]

I've heard plenty of special olympics jokes. Hell there's nothing anybody can say that comedians haven't before. The problem is that he's the President Of The United States, not a comedian.

Look I don't care that he said this, to me it makes no difference that the guy has a sense of humor. that's good in my book, just like Clinton and Bush had a funny bone in them too.

but what has he done that's been good so far?


I ain't got a problem with phoenix either, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

Fleeman, you obviously have not read his posts in the past...

[CyFallsMom]

0. no. probably. no.

Wow. I can't believe he actually said that.... Not to excuse it, but honestly, how many of you have let something like that slip? I know I have....

But...wow... that's kinda a big slip.

But he's the PRESIDENT!! Have a little dignity!! That's the point. I will say that it seemed to be more self-depracting than anything but he really needs to wean himself off the teleprompters so he doesn't say things like this. He really can't speak without it. Not in any official capacity anyway. Right now, there are people all over this country that are pissed off - not only at him but at his government as well as many other things. He's only been in office for about 60 days and what has he done?? Fly around the country making campaign speeches.

[slorch]

some of ya'll take things way too seriously. so the man made a poor joke. who hasn't. geez get over it.



When someone makes a "short bus" or "special olympics" remark, I just make a mental note of their stupidity. It should be a topic Mr Super Liberal Messiah of Sensitivity should know better than to even stray mistakenly into.

People get all butthurt about a joke on race or gender, but they don't recognize the complete lack of understanding and hurt that comes from making fun of someone with special abilities or conditions.

[pied]

But he's the PRESIDENT!! Have a little dignity!! That's the point. I will say that it seemed to be more self-depracting than anything but he really needs to wean himself off the teleprompters so he doesn't say things like this. He really can't speak without it. Not in any official capacity anyway. Right now, there are people all over this country that are pissed off - not only at him but at his government as well as many other things. He's only been in office for about 60 days and what has he done?? Fly around the country making campaign speeches.


Ordered additional troops to Afghanistan
Set timetable to leave Iraq
Got the biggest spending/stimulus package ever passed
Got budget put forth last year approved, so the govt. would not shut down as it did in '95
Is closing Guantanamo Bay
Lifted stem cell research funding limitations
Appeared on Leno


Now some I agree with, others not so much. I am certain there is something objectionable to you on all points. It doesn't excuse the remarks he made last night, but to say he hasn't done anything is not really true is it?

[pied]

When someone makes a "short bus" or "special olympics" remark, I just make a mental note of their stupidity. It should be a topic Mr Super Liberal Messiah of Sensitivity should know better than to even stray mistakenly into.

People get all butthurt about a joke on race or gender, but they don't recognize the complete lack of understanding and hurt that comes from making fun of someone with special abilities or conditions.


You sound a bit like the guy I was listening to on the radio on the way in this AM(fill in show for 570 in Dallas). HE was GOING off on BO. He stated it was terrible to belittle "********" people like that. He was aghast that he would compare himself to the "retards running around a track".

[JagFan]

Anyone that has worked at a Special Olympics event should be very offended. He needs to go stand at the finish line as a hugger and hold one of these kids as they finally cross. One of the greatest inspirational things I have ever done.

[CCCSportsFan]

Pelosi is not only un-American, but also a complete ho bag.

She scares me to death! The power that fool has is driving our country into the ground and she seems to want this to happen!

[CyFallsMom]

Ordered additional troops to Afghanistan
Set timetable to leave Iraq
Got the biggest spending/stimulus package ever passed
Got budget put forth last year approved, so the govt. would not shut down as it did in '95
Is closing Guantanamo Bay
Lifted stem cell research funding limitations
Appeared on Leno


Now some I agree with, others not so much. I am certain there is something objectionable to you on all points. It doesn't excuse the remarks he made last night, but to say he hasn't done anything is not really true is it?

I stand by my statement. None of this is worth anything. All of it will cause problems in the end. So I will restate - what has he done that is POSITIVE. And yes, I find HIM very obejctionable - I distrust him to my very core so nothing he does will make me happy - ever.

[CyFallsMom]

She scares me to death! The power that fool has is driving our country into the ground and she seems to want this to happen!

She is WAY scarier than any of them. I pray that nothing ever happens to Obama or Biden. As much as I can't stand either of them, they are far better than having that witch at the helm.

I just can't wait until 2010 when his power is a bit usurped by the Republicans that will regain control and then 2012 when that whole mess is gone.

[pied]

I stand by my statement. None of this is worth anything. All of it will cause problems in the end. So I will restate - what has he done that is POSITIVE. And yes, I find HIM very obejctionable - I distrust him to my very core so nothing he does will make me happy - ever.

You really find him objectionable? I think I knew that. Perhaps it was the Anti-Christ comparison, or the Hitler one. Some how that impression has been made.

[rwilleby]

I stand by my statement. None of this is worth anything. All of it will cause problems in the end. So I will restate - what has he done that is POSITIVE. And yes, I find HIM very obejctionable - I distrust him to my very core so nothing he does will make me happy - ever.

Your next Snappy's will be on me... :notworthy

[DragonWatcher]

You really find him objectionable? I think I knew that. Perhaps it was the Anti-Christ comparison, or the Hitler one. Some how that impression has been made.

Sometimes Hitler just isn't evil enough to get your point across...

[RedRage00]

You really find him objectionable? I think I knew that. Perhaps it was the Anti-Christ comparison, or the Hitler one. Some how that impression has been made.

You have to remember who you're debating with on here lol
I don't waste my time anymore.

[15Adragon]

speechless... I am speechless, embarrassed... I see now why he relies on his teleprompter all the time. The man is naive at best and certainly not presidential. :o:confused:

[Firebird]

Pretty poor taste on behalf of Obama. No excuses from this end. I also have to say that I don't think the Leno show is exactly the sort of forum I want my POTUS to be using.

On the other hand, I can't imagine Hitler on the Leno show. Thought come to think of it, that could be kinda funny.

[pied]

Pretty poor taste on behalf of Obama. No excuses from this end. I also have to say that I don't think the Leno show is exactly the sort of forum I want my POTUS to be using.

On the other hand, I can't imagine Hitler on the Leno show. Thought come to think of it, that could be kinda funny.


I remember way back in the day, Leno was a fill in for Carson. He made some Hitler joke and the audience groaned. He said(parphrase)"Sorry, didn't mean to offend the Nazis out there". The next night or shortly thereafter he idd the same things w/Communists. Prettty funny, but I don't watch much late night talk shows. I'm all in for Nightline.

[CyFallsMom]

You really find him objectionable? I think I knew that. Perhaps it was the Anti-Christ comparison, or the Hitler one. Some how that impression has been made.

I sure hope so. And I have heard so many people, Repubs and Dems, who voted for him who are backing off of that American Idol euphoria. He even compared himself to American Idol. Get him and Octomom together and the narcissistic energy will destroy them both.

Yes, I have compared him to all the evils of the world. Because I do not see him as evil necessarily but what he is doing right now is definitely so and his vision of what we should be in his eyes is very evil. And that also goes for his crooked cronies.

I don't back down on my opinion face to face - why do so on an internet board. If I make enemies for doing so, then you wouldn't make a good friend to begin with and neither would I.

[CyFallsMom]

Your next Snappy's will be on me... :notworthy


Watch it, I'll hold you to that!!:)

[CCCSportsFan]

Pretty poor taste on behalf of Obama. No excuses from this end. I also have to say that I don't think the Leno show is exactly the sort of forum I want my POTUS to be using.

On the other hand, I can't imagine Hitler on the Leno show. Thought come to think of it, that could be kinda funny.

Great point Firebird... The Leno show is a comedy show, so I wonder if that led him to believe he had to try and be funny and he steps in it with the ill fated special olympics joke.

Our POTUS needs to be very selective in the media forum he/she decides to use to sell the American public. Because in my opinion he's still so new to the office he's in selling the public mode. The Leno show is not the forum at this early stage of his administration.

[CCCSportsFan]

She is WAY scarier than any of them. I pray that nothing ever happens to Obama or Biden. As much as I can't stand either of them, they are far better than having that witch at the helm.

I just can't wait until 2010 when his power is a bit usurped by the Republicans that will regain control and then 2012 when that whole mess is gone.

I agree and heaven help us if something happens to Obama and then Biden!

[CyFallsMom]

You have to remember who you're debating with on here lol
I don't waste my time anymore.

I could say so much here....so, so much. I'll just leave it though...don't want to get banned:)

[CyFallsMom]

Great point Firebird... The Leno show is a comedy show, so I wonder if that led him to believe he had to try and be funny and he steps in it with the ill fated special olympics joke.

Our POTUS needs to be very selective in the media forum he/she decides to use to sell the American public. Because in my opinion he's still so new to the office he's in selling the public mode. The Leno show is not the forum at this early stage of his administration..

They were comparing him to Nixon today. I don't know how many of you ever saw that when he was on Laugh In. But he didn't say anything objectionable while on the show - just "Sock it to me" which was their catch phrase. That show had far more class than Leno though. I just think he should worry about running the country and not about signing autographs and meeting the young exhuberant fans.

[Firebird]

I remember way back in the day, Leno was a fill in for Carson. He made some Hitler joke and the audience groaned. He said(parphrase)"Sorry, didn't mean to offend the Nazis out there". The next night or shortly thereafter he idd the same things w/Communists. Prettty funny, but I don't watch much late night talk shows. I'm all in for Nightline.

Leno was funnier as a Carson fill in than as a host.

I also don't watch the shows, although I will occasionally watch Letterman until the top ten list.

[RedRage00]

I could say so much here....so, so much. I'll just leave it though...don't want to get banned:)

I remember that every time I read one of your post.

You won't get banned. You're in the Katy "in" group. ;)

[CyFallsMom]

I remember that every time I read one of your post.

You won't get banned. You're in the Katy "in" group. ;)

hmmmm. Yep, I would get the boot. I'm just not a politically correct person. I should learn to keep my mouth shut but it's a disease!:D

[RedRage00]

hmmmm. Yep, I would get the boot. I'm just not a politically correct person. I should learn to keep my mouth shut but it's a disease!:D

I'm not either. I've been banned to prove it.

PM me what you gotta say. I'd love to hear it.

[pack75]

But he's the PRESIDENT!! Have a little dignity!! That's the point. I will say that it seemed to be more self-depracting than anything but he really needs to wean himself off the teleprompters so he doesn't say things like this. He really can't speak without it. Not in any official capacity anyway. Right now, there are people all over this country that are pissed off - not only at him but at his government as well as many other things. He's only been in office for about 60 days and what has he done?? Fly around the country making campaign speeches.

Bush couldn't speak either way....with or without the teleprompters! :laugh

I couldn't help it.....You set yourself up for that one. :D

[the_phoenix612]

Bush couldn't speak either way....with or without the teleprompters! :laugh

I couldn't help it.....You set yourself up for that one. :D

hey.

Absolutely no comparison to Bush is allowed.

Obama has been president for barely 3 months. He's on his own. Heck, if he hasn't solved the economy AND global hunger by June, he is a failure and should be impeached.

[RedRage00]

Bush couldn't speak either way....with or without the teleprompters! :laugh

I couldn't help it.....You set yourself up for that one. :D

Don't say anything bad about their hero. :rolleyes:

[pack75]

I stand by my statement. None of this is worth anything. All of it will cause problems in the end. So I will restate - what has he done that is POSITIVE. And yes, I find HIM very obejctionable - I distrust him to my very core so nothing he does will make me happy - ever.

Did you accuse someone of sounding like a teenager earlier in this thread? :confused:

[pack75]

Don't say anything bad about their hero. :rolleyes:

It's okay Rage...I'm just having fun man! :)

I know where I'm at. ;)

[CyFallsMom]

Did you accuse someone of sounding like a teenager earlier in this thread? :confused:

And you think my statement does? Humorous.

[DragonBand06]

hey.

Absolutely no comparison to Bush is allowed.

Obama has been president for barely 3 months. He's on his own. Heck, if he hasn't solved the economy AND global hunger by June, he is a failure and should be impeached.I'll start printing the ballots. :D

[JagFan]

hey.

Absolutely no comparison to Bush is allowed.

Obama has been president for barely 3 months. He's on his own. Heck, if he hasn't solved the economy AND global hunger by June, he is a failure and should be impeached.

No, but I would love to know when he decides to be in charge and it is his administration and not Bushes. This fiasco with the stimulus and omnibus bill as well as his "budget" are all his.

[stevefoxsc]

I like how you zero in on the time off thing but ignore the implication that he may have made fun of special olympics participants.....

I predict an apology for the inadvertent insult, if it is true he did so on Leno. That's the way it's done nowadays.
woooooooooooooooooooooooow remember when bush made jokes about iraq even though many brave men and women died there.

Not that i'm saying its right, but damn you people lately hop on this guy every moment ya'll can.

It's like ya'll have barrack ***** envy obsession and ya'll just love the flavor of it.

[Aggies2009]

woooooooooooooooooooooooow remember when bush made jokes about iraq even though many brave men and women died there.

Not that i'm saying its right, but damn you people lately hop on this guy every moment ya'll can.

It's like ya'll have barrack ***** envy obsession and ya'll just love the flavor of it.

So it's okay for liberal pansies to murder Bush for every little thing, but they get all butt-hurt over their liberal mancrush being blasted for saying something inappropriate?

Because see, when you bring Bush into it (someone who had NOTHING to do with this thread), it's a typical liberal spin/dodge. You're only showing that the ONLY way to defend this joke of a president is to say, "Well, Bush did it first!" You talk about us having ***** envy or whatever because Hussein made fun of handicapped, but first thing you do is bring up Bush. I guess you have ***** envy of Bush?

[CyFallsMom]

So it's okay for liberal pansies to murder Bush for every little thing, but they get all butt-hurt over their liberal mancrush being blasted for saying something inappropriate?

Because see, when you bring Bush into it (someone who had NOTHING to do with this thread), it's a typical liberal spin/dodge. You're only showing that the ONLY way to defend this joke of a president is to say, "Well, Bush did it first!" You talk about us having ***** envy or whatever because Hussein made fun of handicapped, but first thing you do is bring up Bush. I guess you have ***** envy of Bush?


Amen!! We received our share of Bush bashing when he was in office. But, I laid off Obama until he started in on all this mess he's creating. Now, it's open season IMO. Like someone said at lunch - we need to take our country back from the politicians in general. I'm seeing protests on TV - haven't seen things like that since LBJ was in office. It's going to be interesting to see how far people are really willing to take their anger. My anger is released with a keyboard - hopefully everyone else's is too and it doesn't get too serious. Just listening to folks talking around us at lunch - there are some pretty pissed off people around town.

[pack75]

Amen!! We received our share of Bush bashing when he was in office. But, I laid off Obama until he started in on all this mess he's creating. Now, it's open season IMO. Like someone said at lunch - we need to take our country back from the politicians in general. I'm seeing protests on TV - haven't seen things like that since LBJ was in office. It's going to be interesting to see how far people are really willing to take their anger. My anger is released with a keyboard - hopefully everyone else's is too and it doesn't get too serious. Just listening to folks talking around us at lunch - there are some pretty pissed off people around town.

About what?

[Favpack]

I watched it, and the Special Olympics comment was a no big deal. He was poking fun at himself for his bowling score and for Leno's "really good game Mr. President" comment.

Much ado about nothing - and I'm no Obama fan.

[CyFallsMom]

About what?

There was one at AIG of course but they were angry at the government.

Truly it IS the govt we should all be angry at over that debacle. I was on retention and signed a contract to receive a $50,000 retention. Small, I know, but nice for me anyway. So, when that retention period was over, if I hadn't received it I would have gone berserk. They are saying they are going to get it back through taxes - ILLEGAL - EX POST FACTO, etc. If they do this for those taking bail out, eventually, it will trickle down to those who are making their own way. If they didn't want these payments made, they shouldn't have opened the door for it. Now they are posturing and pointing fingers and such and they are all losing every last shred of dignity.

There have been other smaller ones as well and the underlying anger has been against the government - not so much Obama but Congress more than anything.

It's interesting to watch because this is how it all started in the 60's. It will grow. Mark my words. Too much anger out there. And we didn't even HAVE the internet then!!

[CyFallsMom]

I watched it, and the Special Olympics comment was a no big deal. He was poking fun at himself for his bowling score and for Leno's "really good game Mr. President" comment.

Much ado about nothing - and I'm no Obama fan.

I agree that it wasn't a huge deal - but my question is, why is he on a talk show to begin with?? That just begs for anything coming out of his mouth to be taken out of context or blown out of proportion. However, If I were the parent of a Special Olympian, he might seem to be putting it down as if "I'm so bad I look like one of them" and then laughs about it. It's all about how it's presented.

[DragonWatcher]

Amen!! We received our share of Bush bashing when he was in office. But, I laid off Obama until he started in on all this mess he's creating. Now, it's open season IMO. Like someone said at lunch - we need to take our country back from the politicians in general. I'm seeing protests on TV - haven't seen things like that since LBJ was in office. It's going to be interesting to see how far people are really willing to take their anger. My anger is released with a keyboard - hopefully everyone else's is too and it doesn't get too serious. Just listening to folks talking around us at lunch - there are some pretty pissed off people around town.

There's a strong difference between being critical of someone and comparing them to Hitler and the anti christ and saying phoenix is like a kid in the Hitler youth. Hitler killed millions of people, millions. Obama wants to create universal healthcare, tax you more, and let homos make out in front of you with rings on their fingers. Those things, are on irrefutably separate playing fields. Comparing ANY American Politician to Hitler shows an absolute lack of class. Obama is not evil in the sense that Hitler was. I have yet to see his genocide bill pop up in congress. For someone criticizing phoenix for his need to grow up you have a lot of it yourself to do. Don't you think any Jewish member of this board finds it slightly offensive to listen to you making light of Hitler and what he did? Which there's no room for debate there, you are doing that by comparing him to Obama. Being gang r a p e d and thrown into a gas chamber like worthless cattle doesn't belong in any comparison, simile, metaphor, etc of what a president is trying to do.

[DrEdward]

I watched it, and the Special Olympics comment was a no big deal. He was poking fun at himself for his bowling score and for Leno's "really good game Mr. President" comment.

Much ado about nothing - and I'm no Obama fan.


Right.

[CyFallsMom]

There's a strong difference between being critical of someone and comparing them to Hitler and the anti christ and saying phoenix is like a kid in the Hitler youth. Hitler killed millions of people, millions. Obama wants to create universal healthcare, tax you more, and let homos make out in front of you with rings on their fingers. Those things, are on irrefutably separate playing fields. Comparing ANY American Politician to Hitler shows an absolute lack of class. Obama is not evil in the sense that Hitler was. I have yet to see his genocide bill pop up in congress. For someone criticizing phoenix for his need to grow up you have a lot of it yourself to do. Don't you think any Jewish member of this board finds it slightly offensive to listen to you making light of Hitler and what he did? Which there's no room for debate there, you are doing that by comparing him to Obama. Being gang r a p e d and thrown into a gas chamber like worthless cattle doesn't belong in any comparison, simile, metaphor, etc of what a president is trying to do.

Whoa there!! when I mention Hitler - it's about his SOCIALISM. I know what he did - I grew up across the street from a woman with a tattoo on her arm - one that wasn't voluntary!!! Don't EVEN put FREAKING WORDS IN MY MOUTH when you don't know from where I come. As I told RR, I am also NOT anti-gay. I also had, in my second neighborhood, a gay male couple across the street from me who were good friends - in the 70's no less when it was almost a crime to say you were gay. On that same street was a Nazi - he had actually been a part of the SS and he was so pitiful - he hated it and hated Hitler and was pretty crazy from what he had done and been a part of. You don't know my agenda and lord only knows you don't know me from the this post that you wrote. Do NOT think you do and what you said is slanderous to say the least. I have many Jewish friends, black and hispanic friends, asian friends. I love them all very dearly. I would never consider Obama evil like Hitler was. But he does have evil Socialist leanings...which mean those of us who do an honest days work will pay for those who don't. Phoenix has said quite a few things of his own about me on this board....all pretty detrimental. Go back and look. The Hitler youth followed blindly and so do many of the youth following Obama.

[CyFallsMom]

With all that being said, I will apologize to Phoenix since it's possible he might have taken it that way but I don't know where you come off. I have never compared anybody to that part of Hitler - only the Socialistic part and that you cannot deny.

[ChanSHS]

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e300/holyhounds/obamabowlingcopy.jpg

[CyFallsMom]

OMG - :notworthy:notworthy too funny!!

[DragonWatcher]

Secretly, you are a Hitler - I mean Obama - Youth aren't you? I finally figured that out.


I wouldn't be the first and most certainly not the last who has done so. Now I just see him as a latter day Hitler - gee, what's the difference?

You know, that stuff is eerie right there! I can honestly say that I haven't been this worried about America since the days when we were constantly looking to the skies for Russian missiles. I'm dead serious. This man is the enemy to all that we hold near and dear and he is Hitler rising - that much is painfully obvious.

But if you go carrying pictures of Chairman Mao (or Hitler)

Both, in my opinion. He is doing whatever he thinks everyone wants to hear to become king of the world - I mean POTUS (sorry, slipped up a bit). He is Hitler in sheeps clothing - look at the masses who bow to him like he's something otherwordly. He's just a man and an inexperienced man at that. ONE thing he voted on that I know of and I don't profess to know everything on it but it had to do with his beloved Congo. I didn't know the Congo was a part of the U.S?? Why not help those in the U.S.?

As you all know, I find this man to be a most despicable human being. This confirms it even further for me. His arrogance is at levels I have never seen - not even from David Hasselhof or Tom Cruise!! He has become so full of himself and sees himself as leader of the world - not only of the U.S. Someone on the radio was comparing him to Hitler in Hitler's younger days yesterday - it was uncanny and quite scary to say the least. Don't get me wrong - I would be the first one to vote for a black President if I believed in him (or her) but this man is so far left he's falling into the Pacific Ocean! I just don't trust him. But then I still like George W. Bush so I'm an anomaly.

I'm sure you have plenty of jewish, black, gay, gypsy etc friends. The way you make your arguments is the problem with an infatuation for comparing Obama to Hitler. Next time you get on your high horse about I know nothing about you and you never compare him to Hitler you might want to check your own levels of delusion as referenced in the above posts.

[DragonWatcher]

With all that being said, I will apologize to Phoenix since it's possible he might have taken it that way but I don't know where you come off. I have never compared anybody to that part of Hitler - only the Socialistic part and that you cannot deny.

Here's a painfully obvious question for you. When most people think of Hitler do they think about his social programs where people didn't have to work or do they think of the mass genocide he committed?

[15Adragon]

I watched it, and the Special Olympics comment was a no big deal. He was poking fun at himself for his bowling score and for Leno's "really good game Mr. President" comment.

Much ado about nothing - and I'm no Obama fan.

I disagree. He is president of the US and we are in a couple of wars and we are facing all kinds of financial challenges and he is on the tonight show? That was, IMO, a big risk and possibly not a good move. It didn't bother me, but it hardly inspires confidence in his commitment and focus. Can you say celebrity culture.... IMO, this is more style and BS over real substance and grit when we need it most.

By taking this risk and going on the show without his teleprompter there was a good chance something like this would happen. I'm not one of these overly sensitive types, so I can see the mistake and understand that he didn't mean to offend, but he is the president not a celebrity figure. The President is becoming a joke in IMO. Teleprompters, concerts in the white house, spin, more spin, can't find anyone to serve who has paid their taxes like the rest of us and so on.... I'm trying to see the best in this situation but he is not delivering.

1 more thing. In this highly charged PC world we live in .. he couldn't control himself enough to speak without insulting so many. Too me that is just another indication that all of this PC stuff is for us and not those who are pushing it on us.

[CyFallsMom]

I'm sure you have plenty of jewish, black, gay, gypsy etc friends. The way you make your arguments is the problem with an infatuation for comparing Obama to Hitler. Next time you get on your high horse about I know nothing about you and you never compare him to Hitler you might want to check your own levels of delusion as referenced in the above posts.

And show me, old wise one:rolleyes:. Where do I mention that he will be killing anyone - it is ONLY about the socialistic aspect of Hitler and the people who are so obsessed with him and blindly believe him and follow him. Reminds me of a Hitler type crowd or some other commie leader. Hitler was also very charismatic - so is Obama to many people. I, however, have NEVER said that Obama is going to attack Jews or take people hostage and into concetration camps. Hitler is often a metaphor for the type of government Obama wishes for. You have no argument here - I never even implied what you accuse me of. I am not delusional - but you might be.

[CyFallsMom]

Here's a painfully obvious question for you. When most people think of Hitler do they think about his social programs where people didn't have to work or do they think of the mass genocide he committed?

That is an obvious question and people think of both. I think of both but, in the case of my posts, it is all about the government issue. Always has been. Go back to my very earliest posts and you will see that.

[HUM398]

Here's a painfully obvious question for you. When most people think of Hitler do they think about his social programs where people didn't have to work or do they think of the mass genocide he committed?

On the issue of Genocide....

Planned Parent hood = Hitler......

Obama= Progressive Socialist.....

[HUM398]

You have to remember who you're debating with on here lol
I don't waste my time anymore.

By saying that you don't waste your time anymore....do you mean not riding birds Chubby Santa (we all know thats your scene, no need to remind us how much you love it) into arguments only to spout off "PWNED".

Because i can't recall you ever seriously debating anyone....I though it general consensus that you were just a bird and pied groupie...

[CyFallsMom]

On the issue of Genocide....

Planned Parent hood = Hitler......

Obama= Progressive Socialist.....


I truly hate to connect the dots here because I honestly don't think in that direction but Planned parenthood has Obama in their right pocket.

[stevefoxsc]

So it's okay for liberal pansies to murder Bush for every little thing, but they get all butt-hurt over their liberal mancrush being blasted for saying something inappropriate?

Because see, when you bring Bush into it (someone who had NOTHING to do with this thread), it's a typical liberal spin/dodge. You're only showing that the ONLY way to defend this joke of a president is to say, "Well, Bush did it first!" You talk about us having ***** envy or whatever because Hussein made fun of handicapped, but first thing you do is bring up Bush. I guess you have ***** envy of Bush?

ahaha someone drunk a big batch of idkwtfitalkinabout

Yes, bush had nothing to do with this. But my point was simple, compare and contrast. I'm still searching for ,"Well Bush did it first." I used the control+F (ctrl+f) i dont see it in any way shape or form.


But damn if something like that bothers you gtfo the internet turn off your radio and don't even watch tv. Cause in reality its ultra sensitive pansys *** liberals that cry about dumb crap like that. Next thing you're gonna be crying cause Chris Rock said a white joke BAWWWWWWW.

I'm half black you tell a black joke i don't give a damn I'll laugh if its funny.

And why not dedicate a whole anti Carlos Mencia movement lord knows hes told me tard jokes than Obama, or how about you try and spend you're time trying to ban the movie ,"The Ringer." Hell go cry with those other soccer moms about Ben stillers simple jack skit on ,"Tropic Thunder."

[pack75]

OMG - :notworthy:notworthy too funny!!

What's funny about the picture above?

What if there's a parent reading this with a child at home that may need to where a helmet because of mental health issues...so hypocritical...seriously.

[stevefoxsc]

What's funny about this?

What if there's a parent reading this with a child at home that may need to where a helmet because of mental health issues...so hypocritical...seriously.

Yew no how dem thur liberials iz makin fun ugh dem thur special folk dat aint not rite.

[CyFallsMom]

What's funny about this?

What if there's a parent reading this with a child at home that may need to where a helmet because of mental health issues...so hypocritical...seriously.

someone wears a helmet because of mental health issues? Okay, I'll give you ADHD or seizure disorder actually. But A) This picture is funny as heck and B)I'm not the POTUS on national TV and C) Repeat A.

[the_phoenix612]

I truly hate to connect the dots here because I honestly don't think in that direction but Planned parenthood has Obama in their right pocket.

left pocket ;)

[CyFallsMom]

left pocket ;)

That's right - got my pockets mixed up!!

[pack75]

someone wears a helmet because of mental health issues? Okay, I'll give you ADHD or seizure disorder actually. But A) This picture is funny as heck and B)I'm not the POTUS on national TV and C) Repeat A.

Once again...did you accuse someone of acting like a teenager earlier???

[CyFallsMom]

Once again...did you accuse someone of acting like a teenager earlier???


Yes and I recognize that my post was highly juvenile. I've been working on Unemployment Claims all day (not my true job - doing it for someone out of the office) and I am getting slap happy. Not an excuse - the absolute truth. Thank God it's FRIDAY and Mexican Food and Margueritas are on the horizon!

[pied]

I agree that it wasn't a huge deal - but my question is, why is he on a talk show to begin with?? That just begs for anything coming out of his mouth to be taken out of context or blown out of proportion. However, If I were the parent of a Special Olympian, he might seem to be putting it down as if "I'm so bad I look like one of them" and then laughs about it. It's all about how it's presented.

Kind of like if you might be if someone laughed at a picture...


http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e300/holyhounds/obamabowlingcopy.jpg

OMG - :notworthy:notworthy too funny!!

[DragonWatcher]

And show me, old wise one:rolleyes:. Where do I mention that he will be killing anyone - it is ONLY about the socialistic aspect of Hitler and the people who are so obsessed with him and blindly believe him and follow him. Reminds me of a Hitler type crowd or some other commie leader. Hitler was also very charismatic - so is Obama to many people. I, however, have NEVER said that Obama is going to attack Jews or take people hostage and into concetration camps. Hitler is often a metaphor for the type of government Obama wishes for. You have no argument here - I never even implied what you accuse me of. I am not delusional - but you might be.

Please explain this quote of yours having "only" to do with the socialism part. "I wouldn't be the first and most certainly not the last who has done so. Now I just see him as a latter day Hitler - gee, what's the difference?"

there are two possible meanings to that sentence. one, that Obama is indeed a modern day hitler and there is no difference or two, and I think this is more likely its a joke comparing a man who isn't really doing anything that evil in the christian sense compared to any other president, to a man who MURDERED 6,000,000 innocent people and started the most horrendous war in human history and taking those things he did lightly as a joke. Do you again want to explain how that's classy? How I don't know you? There wasn't any mention of socialism in that post of yours. I don't care what you think of when you think of Hitler. Most people do not think socialist, they think Murderer, genocidal, maniac etc.

By your same logic I think your like the Ku Klux Klan, gee what's the difference? I base that statement on the fact you have southern pride, not that you kill innocent black people, are fervently racist and are completely morally repugnant.

[HUM398]

Please explain this quote of yours having "only" to do with the socialism part. "I wouldn't be the first and most certainly not the last who has done so. Now I just see him as a latter day Hitler - gee, what's the difference?"

there are two possible meanings to that sentence. one, that Obama is indeed a modern day hitler and there is no difference or two, and I think this is more likely its a joke comparing a man who isn't really doing anything that evil in the christian sense compared to any other president, to a man who MURDERED 6,000,000 innocent people and started the most horrendous war in human history and taking those things he did lightly as a joke. Do you again want to explain how that's classy? How I don't know you? There wasn't any mention of socialism in that post of yours. I don't care what you think of when you think of Hitler. Most people do not think socialist, they think Murderer, genocidal, maniac etc.

By your same logic I think your like the Ku Klux Klan, gee what's the difference? I base that statement on the fact you have southern pride, not that you kill innocent black people, are fervently racist and are completely morally repugnant.

Well when thinking Hitler leads you to think socialist, it isn't inaccurate....

When thinking Klu Klux Klan i think pissy Democrats turned terrorist....also not not inaccurate.

Now...Obama is no Hitler, although the liberal political agenda can draw many many similarities....and one that Jon Goldberg has called "enlightened Nazism."

take away the murdering of millions during world war II, and obsession with a pure race....and The Nazi party can draw strong comparisons to the current Liberal Ideology....The Comparison to Obama being Hitler is closer then the Bush comparisons....

[CyFallsMom]

Please explain this quote of yours having "only" to do with the socialism part. "I wouldn't be the first and most certainly not the last who has done so. Now I just see him as a latter day Hitler - gee, what's the difference?"

there are two possible meanings to that sentence. one, that Obama is indeed a modern day hitler and there is no difference or two, and I think this is more likely its a joke comparing a man who isn't really doing anything that evil in the christian sense compared to any other president, to a man who MURDERED 6,000,000 innocent people and started the most horrendous war in human history and taking those things he did lightly as a joke. Do you again want to explain how that's classy? How I don't know you? There wasn't any mention of socialism in that post of yours. I don't care what you think of when you think of Hitler. Most people do not think socialist, they think Murderer, genocidal, maniac etc.

By your same logic I think your like the Ku Klux Klan, gee what's the difference? I base that statement on the fact you have southern pride, not that you kill innocent black people, are fervently racist and are completely morally repugnant.

Boy speaking of high horses and taking things too seriously!!:rolleyes:. I never implied what you are saying but go on and spout your vileness. I know that if I had said anything like that, I would be horrified. It may appear to you that this is what I said but to anyone who can truly see what is going on right now, they know I was speaking of his way of running government. By the way, I really am not the first to compare his policies to the policies of Socialism/Facism/Communism, etc. If you find where I said "Obama is going to kill everyone with blonde hair (as an example), please point me the way so I can make amends. I never did. I understand the gravity of that situation probably more than you do because my neighbor went through it and told us of the horrors. She would beat her children senseless but everyone was afraid to say anything because she had been through the same thing. You know, I have seen things in life that you, being in Southlake and all, could only imagine. So why don't your get off you high horse and give it a rest. It's really getting old.

[CyFallsMom]

Well when thinking Hitler leads you to think socialist, it isn't inaccurate....

When thinking Klu Klux Klan i think pissy Democrats turned terrorist....also not not inaccurate.

Now...Obama is no Hitler, although the liberal political agenda can draw many many similarities....and one that Jon Goldberg has called "enlightened Nazism."

take away the murdering of millions during world war II, and obsession with a pure race....and The Nazi party can draw strong comparisons to the current Liberal Ideology....The Comparison to Obama being Hitler is closer then the Bush comparisons....

You word it the way I meant to say it - I sometimes get too wordy and it comes out wrong. And the KKK are pissed off Democrats. I have never been a Dem or a Lib so that, too, is inaccurate.

[Firebird]

Well when thinking Hitler leads you to think socialist, it isn't inaccurate....

When thinking Klu Klux Klan i think pissy Democrats turned terrorist....also not not inaccurate.

Now...Obama is no Hitler, although the liberal political agenda can draw many many similarities....and one that Jon Goldberg has called "enlightened Nazism."

take away the murdering of millions during world war II, and obsession with a pure race....and The Nazi party can draw strong comparisons to the current Liberal Ideology....The Comparison to Obama being Hitler is closer then the Bush comparisons....


Jonah Goldberg is an idiot. And the "liberal" poltical agenda could just as easily be compared to say, FDR or Golda Meir as Hitler. Even more accurate, since Obama's program has not and never has involved militarism, imperialism, or mass genocide. But then again, those people are not as scary.

Argumentum ad hitlerum is the easiest route, though.

[CyFallsMom]

Kind of like if you might be if someone laughed at a picture...


He is not mentally challenged (or not that we know of yet) so he is open to ridicule IMO just as some of you have done to me and others. If we dish it out, we better be able to take it (including Dems who don't understand that notion).

[pied]

He is not mentally challenged (or not that we know of yet) so he is open to ridicule IMO just as some of you have done to me and others. If we dish it out, we better be able to take it (including Dems who don't understand that notion).

OK to ridcule someone by making them look like he is mentally challenged? Is that what you are saying?

[Firebird]

OK to ridcule someone by making them look like he is mentally challenged? Is that what you are saying?

I think she's saying that it's cool to do it as long as they aren't really mentally challenged.

[CyFallsMom]

OK to ridcule someone by making them look like he is mentally challenged? Is that what you are saying?

He made fun of Special Olympians - for that alone, he is fair game. But my problem with him goes far beyond that. He really is a joke. I like that CNN is finally starting to see that. They finally posted one of my anti-Obama diatribes along with all the others. Before, they would moderate it and trash it because they didn't want him touched. The truth hurts in many ways.

[CyFallsMom]

I think she's saying that it's cool to do it as long as they aren't really mentally challenged.

Not cool - what I'm saying is, you put yourself in that position, do the crappy job you are doing of running our country, you will be ridiculed. My Gosh - don't y'all remember what you all said about Bush????? Why is it so different?

[CyFallsMom]

OK to ridcule someone by making them look like he is mentally challenged? Is that what you are saying?

I didn't post the picture - you'll need to take that one up with someone else.

[pied]

I think she's saying that it's cool to do it as long as they aren't really mentally challenged.

So Obama says his bowling game is bad like Special Olympics = bad

Saying Obama is a Special Olympian because you don't like = ok

Is that right?

[HUM398]

Jonah Goldberg is an idiot. And the "liberal" poltical agenda could just as easily be compared to say, FDR or Golda Meir as Hitler. Even more accurate, since Obama's program has not and never has involved militarism, imperialism, or mass genocide. But then again, those people are not as scary.

Argumentum ad hitlerum is the easiest route, though.

Goldberg is not an idiot...far from it. even some as "objective" as yourself should be able to see that....oh but thats right, you only partially take the role of a "scholar"...when ever it suits you best.


Hey just pointing out facts here...Liberal Ideology a hell of a lot closer to Nazism, then the Conservative ideology....


Today's Libreal Ideology is far more Liberal then i was 60 years ago in many aspects....the further it goes left, the closer it gets to you know what......You can only go so far before you start to realize that you are actually retrogressing...

[Firebird]

Not cool - what I'm saying is, you put yourself in that position, do the crappy job you are doing of running our country, you will be ridiculed. My Gosh - don't y'all remember what you all said about Bush????? Why is it so different?

How do you think Special Olympians and their families feel about people using their condition as an insult?

What does Bush have to do with anything?

[pied]

Not cool - what I'm saying is, you put yourself in that position, do the crappy job you are doing of running our country, you will be ridiculed. My Gosh - don't y'all remember what you all said about Bush????? Why is it so different?

I don't think I ever posted anything bad about Bush. I stated I voted for him twice and might have again had he run. I posted some stuff regarding his speech this week.

[Firebird]

Goldberg is not an idiot...far from it. even some as "objective" as yourself should be able to see that....oh but thats right, you only partially take the role of a "scholar"...when ever it suits you best.


Hey just pointing out facts here...Liberal Ideology a hell of a lot closer to Nazism, then the Conservative ideology....


Today's Libreal Ideology is far more Liberal then i was 60 years ago in many aspects....the further it goes left, the closer it gets to you know what......You can only go so far before you start to realize that you are actually retrogressing...

No, Goldberg is an idiot. His whole schtick is taking the argumentum ad hitlerum to a new level.

Liberal ideology is no closer to Nazism than conservative ideology. There are both plenty of similarities. Liberals in the U.S. don't go in for militarism and imperialism like the conservatives do.

[pied]

I didn't post the picture - you'll need to take that one up with someone else.

so did the picture you laughed at, right?

He made fun of Special Olympians - for that alone, he is fair game.



OMG - :notworthy:notworthy too funny!!

[CyFallsMom]

How do you think Special Olympians and their families feel about people using their condition as an insult?

What does Bush have to do with anything?

Oh MY GOD - how do you people turn things around like this? I want to know the trick so I too can use it.:eek:

I think they took it as a huge insult. AS THEY SHOULD HAVE!! Insulting Obama is okay in my book , though, because he's a public figure who is not doing a good job at this point and who is out to hurt many of us in various ways (monetarily). I only brought Bush up to make you understand at a Pre-K level that it has seemed okay for you libs to bash Bush. Why the double standard? I think what he said was bad BUT I also think that whole ploy last night was a diversion to the bigger problems.

[CyFallsMom]

so did the picture you laughed at, right?

Not as I saw it. I thought he looked funny - to tell you the truth, I didn't even think of it as a "special" picture - I just thought he looked funny. Are the Non-Humor Police going to pick me up now??????

[DragonWatcher]

Boy speaking of high horses and taking things too seriously!!:rolleyes:. I never implied what you are saying but go on and spout your vileness. I know that if I had said anything like that, I would be horrified. It may appear to you that this is what I said but to anyone who can truly see what is going on right now, they know I was speaking of his way of running government. By the way, I really am not the first to compare his policies to the policies of Socialism/Facism/Communism, etc. If you find where I said "Obama is going to kill everyone with blonde hair (as an example), please point me the way so I can make amends. I never did. I understand the gravity of that situation probably more than you do because my neighbor went through it and told us of the horrors. She would beat her children senseless but everyone was afraid to say anything because she had been through the same thing. You know, I have seen things in life that you, being in Southlake and all, could only imagine. So why don't your get off you high horse and give it a rest. It's really getting old.

Then please enlighten me and tell me what that post was about. Again I'm not trying to attack you personally as a bad person, I'm just trying to get you to quit using Hitler as comparison. If you compare Obama to Karl Marx I wouldn't have an issue. If you compared him to any other modern socialist leader I wouldn't have a problem. The problem is no one forgets when a person murders 6 million people. Any comparison to that person automatically caries with it the thought of that mass genocide whether you intend it to or not. If you do believe in Christian principles this is wrong, for Obama has done nothing of the sort. I would imagine even being from Southlake I have seen more of the world than you have, and an attack like that is completely below the belt and ad hoc. One's hometown does not limit one's understanding/knowledge of history. If anything the superior education system at southlake compared to the average public school in the state would give me a better grasp of history. I also have spoken to a holocaust survivor and read much on the subject.

I'm not saying you said Obama is going to kill people of a certain race or do anything of the sort. A comparison to Hitler implies evil of that sort though, otherwise why not just compare him to another socialist who didn't commit mass atrocities that Hitler did? Obama hasn't assumed any dictatorial control so he's unlike Hitler in that manner. He hasn't added any executive power since he was elected, nor has he announced any plans to. His book The Audacity of Hope isn't Mien Kampf. It's a poor and classless comparison. I'm not attacking you for disagreeing with him, but for drawing a bad comparison. If you ask a jewish person what they think of Hitler, socialist isn't the first thing to spring to mind. If you compare his policies to socialism/communism that argument has some merit, but he is in no way a fascist, you need to research what fascism truly is.

Fascism is a radical, authoritarian nationalist ideology that aims to create a single-party state with a government led by a dictator who seeks national unity and development by requiring individuals to subordinate self-interest to the collective interest of the nation or race. Fascist movements promote violence between nations, political factions, and races as part of a social Darwinist and militarist stance that views violence between these groups as a natural and positive part of evolution. In the view of these groups being in perpetual conflict, fascists believe only the strong can survive by being healthy, vital, and have an aggressive warrior mentality by conquering, dominating, and eventually eliminating people deemed weak and degenerate.

[Firebird]

Oh MY GOD - how do you people turn things around like this? I want to know the trick so I too can use it.:eek:

I think they took it as a huge insult. AS THEY SHOULD HAVE!! Insulting Obama is okay in my book , though, because he's a public figure who is not doing a good job at this point and who is out to hurt many of us in various ways (monetarily). I only brought Bush up to make you understand at a Pre-K level that it has seemed okay for you libs to bash Bush. Why the double standard? I think what he said was bad BUT I also think that whole ploy last night was a diversion to the bigger problems.

So basically, if you don't like the person it's ok to portary him as someone with mental challenges. And OK to laugh at it. Correct?

Like I said, do you think Special Olympians and their families like that sort of "humor."

[Firebird]

Not as I saw it. I thought he looked funny - to tell you the truth, I didn't even think of it as a "special" picture - I just thought he looked funny. Are the Non-Humor Police going to pick me up now??????

Didn't "get it" but still thought it was worth defending once it was pointed out to you. OK.

[Firebird]

Then please enlighten me and tell me what that post was about. Again I'm not trying to attack you personally as a bad person, I'm just trying to get you to quit using Hitler as comparison. If you compare Obama to Karl Marx I wouldn't have an issue. If you compared him to any other modern socialist leader I wouldn't have a problem. The problem is no one forgets when a person murders 6 million people. Any comparison to that person automatically caries with it the thought of that mass genocide whether you intend it to or not. If you do believe in Christian principles this is wrong, for Obama has done nothing of the sort. I would imagine even being from Southlake I have seen more of the world than you have, and an attack like that is completely below the belt and ad hoc. One's hometown does not limit one's understanding/knowledge of history. If anything the superior education system at southlake compared to the average public school in the state would give me a better grasp of history. I also have spoken to a holocaust survivor and read much on the subject.

I'm not saying you said Obama is going to kill people of a certain race or do anything of the sort. A comparison to Hitler implies evil of that sort though, otherwise why not just compare him to another socialist who didn't commit mass atrocities that Hitler did? Obama hasn't assumed any dictatorial control so he's unlike Hitler in that manner. He hasn't added any executive power since he was elected, nor has he announced any plans to. His book The Audacity of Hope isn't Mien Kampf. It's a poor and classless comparison. I'm not attacking you for disagreeing with him, but for drawing a bad comparison. If you ask a jewish person what they think of Hitler, socialist isn't the first thing to spring to mind. If you compare his policies to socialism/communism that argument has some merit, but he is in no way a fascist, you need to research what fascism truly is.

Fascism is a radical, authoritarian nationalist ideology that aims to create a single-party state with a government led by a dictator who seeks national unity and development by requiring individuals to subordinate self-interest to the collective interest of the nation or race. Fascist movements promote violence between nations, political factions, and races as part of a social Darwinist and militarist stance that views violence between these groups as a natural and positive part of evolution. In the view of these groups being in perpetual conflict, fascists believe only the strong can survive by being healthy, vital, and have an aggressive warrior mentality by conquering, dominating, and eventually eliminating people deemed weak and degenerate.

Dude, they also use teleprompters and people cheer for them.

[JagFan]

Oh MY GOD - how do you people turn things around like this? I want to know the trick so I too can use it.:eek:

I think they took it as a huge insult. AS THEY SHOULD HAVE!! Insulting Obama is okay in my book , though, because he's a public figure who is not doing a good job at this point and who is out to hurt many of us in various ways (monetarily). I only brought Bush up to make you understand at a Pre-K level that it has seemed okay for you libs to bash Bush. Why the double standard? I think what he said was bad BUT I also think that whole ploy last night was a diversion to the bigger problems.

You are right it was an insult. The thing that really gets me is that a Repub. can say something that everyone knows they really didn't mean as an insult. (I do feel Obama did not mean it as an insult) and be crucified and forced to resign because this just proves they are a closet racist, sexist or whatever else you want to feel they are, but then a Dem. can do it and since he apologized then it is all OK. If the PC police are going to be out there then they need police everyone equally. Isn't that the Libs line we should all be treated fairly?

[HUM398]

No, Goldberg is an idiot. His whole schtick is taking the argumentum ad hitlerum to a new level.

Liberal ideology is no closer to Nazism than conservative ideology. There are both plenty of similarities. Liberals in the U.S. don't go in for militarism and imperialism like the conservatives do.

Thats really funny....a Conservative being accused of playing the Nazi Card...BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Have you not been around the last 8 years?

How to shut up a Conservative:

1. Call him a Nazi and a Fascist.
2. Repeat until he quits.

[CyFallsMom]

Then please enlighten me and tell me what that post was about. Again I'm not trying to attack you personally as a bad person, I'm just trying to get you to quit using Hitler as comparison. If you compare Obama to Karl Marx I wouldn't have an issue. If you compared him to any other modern socialist leader I wouldn't have a problem. The problem is no one forgets when a person murders 6 million people. Any comparison to that person automatically caries with it the thought of that mass genocide whether you intend it to or not. If you do believe in Christian principles this is wrong, for Obama has done nothing of the sort. I would imagine even being from Southlake I have seen more of the world than you have, and an attack like that is completely below the belt and ad hoc. One's hometown does not limit one's understanding/knowledge of history. If anything the superior education system at southlake compared to the average public school in the state would give me a better grasp of history. I also have spoken to a holocaust survivor and read much on the subject.

I'm not saying you said Obama is going to kill people of a certain race or do anything of the sort. A comparison to Hitler implies evil of that sort though, otherwise why not just compare him to another socialist who didn't commit mass atrocities that Hitler did? Obama hasn't assumed any dictatorial control so he's unlike Hitler in that manner. He hasn't added any executive power since he was elected, nor has he announced any plans to. His book The Audacity of Hope isn't Mien Kampf. It's a poor and classless comparison. I'm not attacking you for disagreeing with him, but for drawing a bad comparison. If you ask a jewish person what they think of Hitler, socialist isn't the first thing to spring to mind. If you compare his policies to socialism/communism that argument has some merit, but he is in no way a fascist, you need to research what fascism truly is.

Fascism is a radical, authoritarian nationalist ideology that aims to create a single-party state with a government led by a dictator who seeks national unity and development by requiring individuals to subordinate self-interest to the collective interest of the nation or race. Fascist movements promote violence between nations, political factions, and races as part of a social Darwinist and militarist stance that views violence between these groups as a natural and positive part of evolution. In the view of these groups being in perpetual conflict, fascists believe only the strong can survive by being healthy, vital, and have an aggressive warrior mentality by conquering, dominating, and eventually eliminating people deemed weak and degenerate.


Okay, fair enough - I'll compare him to Stalin then. I guess that probably is a bit harsh for many people to even bring his name up. I was just trying to point out to you that it wasn't meant to be an insult to anyone but him and in that respect, I failed I'm thinking.

I've seen enough bad in this world to write a book by the way. At the same time, I've seen quite a bit of good.

[DragonWatcher]

Well when thinking Hitler leads you to think socialist, it isn't inaccurate....

When thinking Klu Klux Klan i think pissy Democrats turned terrorist....also not not inaccurate.

Now...Obama is no Hitler, although the liberal political agenda can draw many many similarities....and one that Jon Goldberg has called "enlightened Nazism."

take away the murdering of millions during world war II, and obsession with a pure race....and The Nazi party can draw strong comparisons to the current Liberal Ideology....The Comparison to Obama being Hitler is closer then the Bush comparisons....

Again read my posts, I have a problem with anyone that compared Bush and Cheyney to Hitler as well.

The modern liberal movement is nothing like Nazism was in 1930's Germany. Jon Goldberg is an idiot and I've read his book. Nazism was based more on Fascism than Socialism. The democrats in the Ku klux klan also are nothing similar to modern democrats. The party shifted with LBJ's adoption of the civil rights agenda and all the klan members never voted dem again, which is why dem's lost the south for 30 years.

My point was you can't compare someone to Hitler without the audience thinking of Mass Genocide, just as you can't compare someone to the Klan without the racist implications.

[pied]

Not as I saw it. I thought he looked funny - to tell you the truth, I didn't even think of it as a "special" picture - I just thought he looked funny. Are the Non-Humor Police going to pick me up now??????


Yes you will be sitting right next to Obama. Love to be a fly on the wall in that cell.

[Firebird]

Thats really funny....a Conservative being accused of playing the Nazi Card...BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Have you not been around the last 8 years?

How to shut up a Conservative:

1. Call him a Nazi and a Fascist.
2. Repeat until he quits.

Goldberg learned the tactic well. Doesn't mean it is now any more valid.

When your entire blog is called "Liberal Fascism", I think it's safe to say what card is being played.

[CyFallsMom]

You are right it was an insult. The thing that really gets me is that a Repub. can say something that everyone knows they really didn't mean as an insult. (I do feel Obama did not mean it as an insult) and be crucified and forced to resign because this just proves they are a closet racist, sexist or whatever else you want to feel they are, but then a Dem. can do it and since he apologized then it is all OK. If the PC police are going to be out there then they need police everyone equally. Isn't that the Libs line we should all be treated fairly?

Only the LIBS should be treated equally. The rest of us just need to make sure they have money to live on.

You sure are a breath of fresh air in this stale thread;):). I'm not sure why we are always the bad guys.

[DragonWatcher]

Okay, fair enough - I'll compare him to Stalin then. I guess that probably is a bit harsh for many people to even bring his name up. I was just trying to point out to you that it wasn't meant to be an insult to anyone but him and in that respect, I failed I'm thinking.

I've seen enough bad in this world to write a book by the way. At the same time, I've seen quite a bit of good.

Chose someone other Stalin. Stalin murdered more than Hitler did. 40 Million to be a little more specific and he is known for killing his enemies, establishing totalitarian rule etc.

[CyFallsMom]

Yes you will be sitting right next to Obama. Love to be a fly on the wall in that cell.

Actually, I would LOVE to sit with Obama for 30 minutes and pick his brain. Maybe we would both come out enlightened. I'm open to a face to face convo with anyone - beats this stupid keyboard.

[CyFallsMom]

Chose someone other Stalin. Stalin murdered more than Hitler did. 40 Million to be a little more specific and he is known for killing his enemies, establishing totalitarian rule etc.


Okay, Okay - you win - Marx it is.

[DragonWatcher]

Okay, Okay - you win - Marx it is.

Marx away ;) No issue there there.

[JagFan]

Only the LIBS should be treated equally. The rest of us just need to make sure they have money to live on.

You sure are a breath of fresh air in this stale thread;):). I'm not sure why we are always the bad guys.

Thanks. I am not sure either. But I will not bow down at this presidents feet. He and really Pelosi/Reid have made a jole of this mess and I am tired of it.

[HUM398]

No, Goldberg is an idiot. His whole schtick is taking the argumentum ad hitlerum to a new level.

Liberal ideology is no closer to Nazism than conservative ideology. There are both plenty of similarities. Liberals in the U.S. don't go in for militarism and imperialism like the conservatives do.

Liberal ideology:
Abortion
Euthanasia
Social Welfare
National banks
National Health Care
Censorship
Heavy Taxation
Unionization
etc.
Etc...

All are platforms Nazi Germany took.

Conservative Ideology (as painted):
Imperialistic (allegedly)
Racist (allegedly)
Patriots
Greedy (True Conservatism calls for private giving, not mandated)

yup......i see it.

[pied]

Thanks. I am not sure either. But I will not bow down at this presidents feet. He and really Pelosi/Reid have made a jole of this mess and I am tired of it.

Always the bad guys because you paint yourself that way.

Who are the libs around here? Firebird? Me?

Who supports Reid/Pelosi?

[DragonWatcher]

Always the bad guys because you paint yourself that way.

Who are the libs around here? Firebird? Me?

Who supports Reid/Pelosi?

Firebird's a communist (and now suspected terrorist) so you can't include him.

[CyFallsMom]

Marx away ;) No issue there there.


Okay, but mark it down that I hate losing!!:rolleyes:

[CyFallsMom]

Thanks. I am not sure either. But I will not bow down at this presidents feet. He and really Pelosi/Reid have made a jole of this mess and I am tired of it.

A lot of it is those around him - many are far worse than he is. Pelosi is just a botox experiment gone terribly wrong but her attitude and personality just scare me. She uses fear tactics with the House and if she doesn't get her way - talk about being immature! Now you have the Dodd/Geitner controversy going on - they both just need to go.

I actually settled in to give Obama a chance and that lasted until the Spending bill was signed. That was it for me.

[CyFallsMom]

Firebird's a communist (and now suspected terrorist) so you can't include him.

Well, there was that "bank" thing ;)

[HUM398]

Goldberg learned the tactic well. Doesn't mean it is now any more valid.

When your entire blog is called "Liberal Fascism", I think it's safe to say what card is being played.

In search of more attention wouldn't you use the title of your Best Seller book to draw in more attention.

Outside of us, their are probably a ton of people reading our posts asking "who the F*** is Goldberg...Is that jew from Independence Day and Jurassic Park?"

[DragonWatcher]

Okay, but mark it down that I hate losing!!:rolleyes:

It takes a grace I often lack to change a position, I'll give you nothing but good credit there.

[Firebird]

Liberal ideology:
Abortion
Euthanasia
Social Welfare
National banks
National Health Care
Censorship
Heavy Taxation
Unionization
etc.
Etc...

All are platforms Nazi Germany took.

Conservative Ideology (as painted):
Imperialistic (allegedly)
Racist (allegedly)
Patriots
Greedy (True Conservatism calls for private giving, not mandated)

yup......i see it.

Yes, conservatives have not at all called for censorship before. They have never at all become overly militaristic and nationalistic. They have never engaged in propaganda campaigns.

By the way, genius, one of Hitler's actions in consolidating power was to attack the Free Trade Unions and eliminate their leadership and confiscate their property. He abolished collective bargaining and the right to strike. Hmmm.....I don't see to many American libs doing that. I can think of a few conservatives that would like to change things in that direction...

[DragonWatcher]

In search of more attention wouldn't you use the title of your Best Seller book to draw in more attention.

Outside of us, their are probably a ton of people reading our posts asking "who the F*** is Goldberg...Is that jew from Independence Day and Jurassic Park?"

It would have to be a terrible acting discussion for that to be true.

[JagFan]

A lot of it is those around him - many are far worse than he is. Pelosi is just a botox experiment gone terribly wrong but her attitude and personality just scare me. She uses fear tactics with the House and if she doesn't get her way - talk about being immature! Now you have the Dodd/Geitner controversy going on - they both just need to go.

I actually settled in to give Obama a chance and that lasted until the Spending bill was signed. That was it for me.

I listened to him when he first started campaigning and did really try to keep an open mind. Anyone that could give a knockout punch to Hillary I felt I should listen to.

I did hope maybe he would move towards the center to get us out of this mess but no. I feel that he thinks this was not his mess and he inherited it so he can shrug it off and focus on his health care and energy plans. He might have some very good ideas in those areas but we as a nation need to focus on the economy right now. He needs to stand up to the circus of congress and tell them to Shut up and figure it out. He needs to be a leader.

[HUM398]

Again read my posts, I have a problem with anyone that compared Bush and Cheyney to Hitler as well.

The modern liberal movement is nothing like Nazism was in 1930's Germany. Jon Goldberg is an idiot and I've read his book. Nazism was based more on Fascism than Socialism. The democrats in the Ku klux klan also are nothing similar to modern democrats. The party shifted with LBJ's adoption of the civil rights agenda and all the klan members never voted dem again, which is why dem's lost the south for 30 years.

My point was you can't compare someone to Hitler without the audience thinking of Mass Genocide, just as you can't compare someone to the Klan without the racist implications.



The Modern Liberal movement is not like the Nazism of the 30's...i never said it was... I said that it was closer to Liberalism then it was Conservatism...by a long shot.

on LBJ...it is an entirely different issue....Voting for the Republicans instead was highly hypocritical for the Klan to do...Since the very bill the opposed was voted yes on by 80% of the Republicans in both the house and Senate....i believe the issue was deeper then that, it wasn't just the Civil rights bill that switched the south for the Republicans...

[CyFallsMom]

It takes a grace I often lack to change a position, I'll give you nothing but good credit there.

I'm always open to dialogue - you hit me over the head with one the size of a large cast iron frying pan so I had to listen. I don't change my mind because I'm flip floppidy. I saw what you were getting at. I'm not an idiot and I figured it might upset people but I was hoping for Lenin since it sounds like Lennon!!:eek:

[HUM398]

Yes, conservatives have not at all called for censorship before. They have never at all become overly militaristic and nationalistic. They have never engaged in propaganda campaigns.

By the way, genius, one of Hitler's actions in consolidating power was to attack the Free Trade Unions and eliminate their leadership and confiscate their property. He abolished collective bargaining and the right to strike. Hmmm.....I don't see to many American libs doing that. I can think of a few conservatives that would like to change things in that direction...

I will ask you once.....

Who platform is more Socialist and or Nazi? The Liberal or the Conservative?

I rest my case.....


Those are positions the Liberals embrace, while the ones you listed in our column are not....Those are non-perpetual flaws that have occurred, not Conservative Doctrine.

[CyFallsMom]

I listened to him when he first started campaigning and did really try to keep an open mind. Anyone that could give a knockout punch to Hillary I felt I should listen to.

I did hope maybe he would move towards the center to get us out of this mess but no. I feel that he thinks this was not his mess and he inherited it so he can shrug it off and focus on his health care and energy plans. He might have some very good ideas in those areas but we as a nation need to focus on the economy right now. He needs to stand up to the circus of congress and tell them to Shut up and figure it out. He needs to be a leader.

When he can finally stop the inheritance diatribe, he will be better off for it. It's on his clock now and if he keeps looking backwards, that's the only direction he will go.

[Firebird]

I will ask you once.....

Who platform is more Socialist and or Nazi? The Liberal or the Conservative?

I rest my case.....


Those are positions the Liberals embrace, while the ones you listed in our column are not....Those are non-perpetual flaws that have occurred, not Conservative Doctrine.

Neither is closer to Nazism. That's the whole damn point. At this point in time, comparisons to Nazism are virtually meaningless. It's simply rhetorical posturing.

[HUM398]

Neither is closer to Nazism. That's the whole damn point. At this point in time, comparisons to Nazism are virtually meaningless. It's simply rhetorical posturing.

:rolleyes:


That is stupid.

One is closer...and i don't know how you argue that it isn't.

[Aggies2009]

ahaha someone drunk a big batch of idkwtfitalkinabout

Yes, bush had nothing to do with this. But my point was simple, compare and contrast. I'm still searching for ,"Well Bush did it first." I used the control+F (ctrl+f) i dont see it in any way shape or form.

So tell me. What did Bush have to do with anything? Nothing. The only thing you can even TRY to defend Obama with is that Bush did it as well which is a pathetic defense. How about a real one that is about Obama and nothing but Obama? Not about Bush, Clinton, or anyone else.


But damn if something like that bothers you gtfo the internet turn off your radio and don't even watch tv. Cause in reality its ultra sensitive pansys *** liberals that cry about dumb crap like that. Next thing you're gonna be crying cause Chris Rock said a white joke BAWWWWWWW.

Apples and oranges. Chris Rock is a comedian. Hussein is the president of the United States. Their images are different and they have different responsibilities. Kids supposedly look up to Obama, see him as a role model, or whatever else you liberal pansies say to put him up on a pedastal.

I'm half black you tell a black joke i don't give a damn I'll laugh if its funny.

Well, Chris Rock is my favorite comedian because he talks about BOTH sides, and even when he's making fun of people/things, he's telling the truth and makes really good points.

And why not dedicate a whole anti Carlos Mencia movement lord knows hes told me tard jokes than Obama, or how about you try and spend you're time trying to ban the movie ,"The Ringer." Hell go cry with those other soccer moms about Ben stillers simple jack skit on ,"Tropic Thunder."

Here again, your only defense is to say, "Well, comedians and movies do it, so it's okay for Obama to do it!" And again, it's a pathetic defense, having to say someone else does it as well, and they are comedians, not the president. It's good to see people are all for the declining of the presidency to being on the same level as a comedian or actor...

And I'm still laughing about how people talk about Obama doing it, and they have ***** envy, but you turned around and did it with Bush...

[HUM398]

Neither is closer to Nazism. That's the whole damn point. At this point in time, comparisons to Nazism are virtually meaningless. It's simply rhetorical posturing.

It isn't Rhetorical Posturing....

Does the Socialist Nazi Party of WWII not hold many fundamental liberal positions?

It would be Rhetoric if i was attempting to paint Liberals as Nazi's....but i am not. I am drawing Comparisons with the end Conclusion being that Liberals are Closer to Nazism then Conservative....never accusing either side of being Fascist.

[DragonWatcher]

I'm always open to dialogue - you hit me over the head with one the size of a large cast iron frying pan so I had to listen. I don't change my mind because I'm flip floppidy. I saw what you were getting at. I'm not an idiot and I figured it might upset people but I was hoping for Lenin since it sounds like Lennon!!:eek:

Our discussion in this thread is the rare diamond in a pile of horse crap compared to most political threads on here. I love dialogue myself for I can safely say of all the ideas I have come to learn as brilliant, lucid and illuminating not one in my life has come from myself. True dialogue improves civics and the country as whole and there are many on here from both sides of the aisle that would benefit from discussing things the way they were discussed here rather than cutting and pasting talking points.

[CyFallsMom]

Our discussion in this thread is the rare diamond in a pile of horse crap compared to most political threads on here. I love dialogue myself for I can safely say of all the ideas I have come to learn as brilliant, lucid and illuminating not one in my life has come from myself. True dialogue improves civics and the country as whole and there are many on here from both sides of the aisle that would benefit from discussing things the way they were discussed here rather than cutting and pasting talking points.

So true. And I don't take things said here too seriously for long. I get pissed and then throw out my barbs from time to time and then 30 minutes later, I'm watching a movie with my cat:D.

But, if someone does point something out to me, no matter how angry I might get, give me time to think on it and I will usually take the right route, unless I am so attached to my convictions that I won't give them up.

[pied]

I don't have that problem. I am right all the time(almost).

[HUM398]

Firebird's a communist (and now suspected terrorist) so you can't include him.

We all know he is Communist, not a terrorist.

[pied]

We all know he is Communist, not a terrorist.

Ask his bank. They know what's up.

[slorch]

Anyone that cares about people should be very offended. .


FIFY.

( not that anything you said in the initial post was wrong...)

[slorch]

You sound a bit like the guy I was listening to on the radio on the way in this AM(fill in show for 570 in Dallas). HE was GOING off on BO. He stated it was terrible to belittle "********" people like that. He was aghast that he would compare himself to the "retards running around a track".

would you say I am wrong to be disappointed in what the President said?

[slorch]

Pretty poor taste on behalf of Obama. No excuses from this end. I also have to say that I don't think the Leno show is exactly the sort of forum I want my POTUS to be using.

On the other hand, I can't imagine Hitler on the Leno show. Thought come to think of it, that could be kinda funny.

he's one of us, don'tcha know? he picks brackets. He goes on Leno. you can trust him with your sister( think R. Lee Ermey in FMJ):D

[pied]

would you say I am wrong to be disappointed in what the President said?

No

[slorch]

hey.

Absolutely no comparison to Bush is allowed.

Obama has been president for barely 3 months. He's on his own. Heck, if he hasn't made a substantiated first step towards solving the economy AND congressional hunger by June, he is a failure and should be impeached.

spot on!

[slorch]

I watched it, and the Special Olympics comment was a no big deal. He was poking fun at himself for his bowling score and for Leno's "really good game Mr. President" comment.

Much ado about nothing - and I'm no Obama fan.

It is something.. That's the issue for me.

What he said is flat out unnacceptable.

How people cannot/ will not identify that is beyond me...

I guess there's not enough political influence for those with disabilities to be protected...:rolleyes::mad::Censor::mad:

[slorch]

ahaha someone drunk a big batch of idkwtfitalkinabout

Yes, bush had nothing to do with this. But my point was simple, compare and contrast. I'm still searching for ,"Well Bush did it first." I used the control+F (ctrl+f) i dont see it in any way shape or form.


But damn if something like that bothers you gtfo the internet turn off your radio and don't even watch tv. Cause in reality its ultra sensitive pansys *** liberals that cry about dumb crap like that. Next thing you're gonna be crying cause Chris Rock said a white joke BAWWWWWWW.

I'm half black you tell a black joke i don't give a damn I'll laugh if its funny.

And why not dedicate a whole anti Carlos Mencia movement lord knows hes told me tard jokes than Obama, or how about you try and spend you're time trying to ban the movie ,"The Ringer." Hell go cry with those other soccer moms about Ben stillers simple jack skit on ,"Tropic Thunder."

The President fills a more representative billet than Mencia and Stiller, don't you think?

Obama showed a piece of himself( which is indeed a rarity) that I truly do not like. That's all I'm saying.

[JagFan]

FIFY.

( not that anything you said in the initial post was wrong...)

Thank you and you are correct.

[Maroondog]

Secretly, you are a Hitler - I mean Obama - Youth aren't you? I finally figured that out. I'll bet you have a big old poster of Obama on your wall too so he is near at all times. At any rate, this is a typical, 17 year old response. NOWHERE was Bush mentioned. It's called reading comprehension. The more you people go on about Bush this and Bush that, the better he is looking. I hear these ignorant Obamanuts on the radio and they just call and scream and then start bashing Bush. I have news for you all - Bush is out and these current money issues are being festered by Obama and his gang.

Obama was without teleprompters on Leno and stuck his big ugly foot in his mouth again!! He is a moron who can't function without his toys. He is trying to take any dignity that might be left out of the most powerful office in the world. It's a shame. He's worse than Michelle the other day talking about the great Chicken and grits they make in the White House kitchen. I keep picturing Weezy Jefferson or Bubba Gump's mom. Although, I do love both Chicken AND grits;)

He is a buffoon plain and simple. Our nations highest office is occupied by a complete idiot. By the way, I call him the occupant, he is not a president, he just happens to occupy the office.

Obama, office, occupant. The triple zero.

[HUM398]

He is a buffoon plain and simple. Our nations highest office is occupied by a complete idiot. By the way, I call him the occupant, he is not a president, he just happens to occupy the office.

Obama, office, occupant. The triple zero.

Well,

He is most Definitely a President....Maybe not what we would want, but he is one.

He deserves the respect the office carries as well....

I would argue that he is not much without his Teleprompter, but he isn't a idiot....far from it. He knows that his popularity is as high as it is ever going to be, and it is now that he needs to push through all his agenda....or as much as possible.

[EagleDude73]

Well,

He is most Definitely a President....Maybe not what we would want, but he is one.

He deserves the respect the office carries as well....

I would argue that he is not much without his Teleprompter, but he isn't a idiot....far from it. He knows that his popularity is as high as it is ever going to be, and it is now that he needs to push through all his agenda....or as much as possible.

He will have a new Congress in 1 year 9 months.

[Maroondog]

Well,

He is most Definitely a President....Maybe not what we would want, but he is one.

He deserves the respect the office carries as well....

I would argue that he is not much without his Teleprompter, but he isn't a idiot....far from it. He knows that his popularity is as high as it is ever going to be, and it is now that he needs to push through all his agenda....or as much as possible.

I beg to disagree. Respect is earned, not a given right to a particular job title. When and if he begins to act presidential, he might then begin to garner a little of it. Show some real leadership and not just use the opportunity to push through an agenda.

[HUM398]

I beg to disagree. Respect is earned, not a given right to a particular job title. When and if he begins to act presidential, he might then begin to garner a little of it. Show some real leadership and not just use the opportunity to push through an agenda.

The Office is what you are respecting not the man.

He is YOUR President...as mine.

[Maroondog]

The Office is what you are respecting not the man.

He is YOUR President...as mine.

He is not my president, he only occupies the office. Its been discussed before over and over but I do not even believe he is legally eligble to hold the office according to the Constitution.

And among other things, regarding the title of this thread, his comments about Special Olympians on Leno just prove once again what a total idiot he actually is, because only and idiot, especially one who holds the office would be stupid enough to make the crass, uncalled for comments that he did.

If he is your guy, then enjoy.

[HUM398]

He is not my president, he only occupies the office. Its been discussed before over and over but I do not even believe he is legally eligble to hold the office according to the Constitution.

And among other things, regarding the title of this thread, his comments about Special Olympians on Leno just prove once again what a total idiot he actually is, because only and idiot, especially one who holds the office would be stupid enough to make the crass, uncalled for comments that he did.

If he is your guy, then enjoy.

And what exactly makes him ineligible?

And if this is your Country, He is your President.....

[Maroondog]

And what exactly makes him ineligible?

And if this is your Country, He is your President.....

I've never been convinced he was born in this country. Even his family claims he was born in Kenya.

As I admitted he is the occupant of the office. I do not consider him to be my president.

[HUM398]

I've never been convinced he was born in this country. Even his family claims he was born in Kenya.

As I admitted he is the occupant of the office. I do not consider him to be my president.

You've never been convinced? Well where is the proof?

To my knowledge that is a conspiracy theory....

You can not consider him all you want....If this is your Country, he is your POTUS

[the_phoenix612]

I've never been convinced he was born in this country. Even his family claims he was born in Kenya.

As I admitted he is the occupant of the office. I do not consider him to be my president.

oy.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

all done. GET OVER IT.

[EagleDude73]

George W. wants to know why they are organizing a special session of the Olympics.

[stevefoxsc]

So tell me. What did Bush have to do with anything? Nothing. The only thing you can even TRY to defend Obama with is that Bush did it as well which is a pathetic defense. How about a real one that is about Obama and nothing but Obama? Not about Bush, Clinton, or anyone else.

lets see now i did mention he had nothing to do with this, but damn everyone points the finger at big bad bama like he was the first president to do it. Even though many others before him have so comparison is very if your aiming to make a point.



Apples and oranges. Chris Rock is a comedian. Hussein is the president of the United States. Their images are different and they have different responsibilities. Kids supposedly look up to Obama, see him as a role model, or whatever else you liberal pansies say to put him up on a pedastal.
Darn i guess only comedians should tell jokes, **** what will half of us do when we can't make a little jokes with others. But damn I'm sensing massive contradictions, Chris rock isn't a role model to other kids? Wow even though celebrities reach more people world wide than our own president, what he does will more affect what goes on here. Like European children give 2 ***** about who our president is... They care more about whose gonna win an Oscar than whose our president.


Well, Chris Rock is my favorite comedian because he talks about BOTH sides, and even when he's making fun of people/things, he's telling the truth and makes really good points.

ok

Here again, your only defense is to say, "Well, comedians and movies do it, so it's okay for Obama to do it!" And again, it's a pathetic defense, having to say someone else does it as well, and they are comedians, not the president. It's good to see people are all for the declining of the presidency to being on the same level as a comedian or actor...

if you're point is ,"hes the president he should be perfect." news flash you wont be happy with any president tard, the fact alone is no president period in history was perfect. He told a tard joke bawwwwwwwwwwwwww... Quit crying and go preach about it at your next sensitivity class

And I'm still laughing about how people talk about Obama doing it, and they have ***** envy, but you turned around and did it with Bush...

obsession noted.

[DragonWatcher]

I've never been convinced he was born in this country. Even his family claims he was born in Kenya.

As I admitted he is the occupant of the office. I do not consider him to be my president.

duh nuh nuh I'm goin off the rails on crazy train

[Aggies2009]

lets see now i did mention he had nothing to do with this, but damn everyone points the finger at big bad bama like he was the first president to do it. Even though many others before him have so comparison is very if your aiming to make a point.And if you haven't read it the first few times, that is the most pathetic defense, to compare him to someone else. He did it, he made a mistake. He's not the perfect president who will give you all the money you want without having to go to college or work, and his disapproval rate is skyrocketing. Deal with it.


Darn i guess only comedians should tell jokes, **** what will half of us do when we can't make a little jokes with others.
Here again, apples and oranges. Making a joke is fine. Making a joke that makes fun of people because of a condition they can't control is a out of line. Maybe people overlook it for comedians, but they can't for the president.

But damn I'm sensing massive contradictions, Chris rock isn't a role model to other kids? Wow even though celebrities reach more people world wide than our own president, what he does will more affect what goes on here. Uh, if you want a person like Chris Rock to be a role model for your kids, you're a joke, and I PRAY that you don't procreate for fear of ruining our gene pool even more.

Like European children give 2 ***** about who our president is... They care more about whose gonna win an Oscar than whose our president.PLEASE tell me you're joking.... And a movie star =\= a comedian.

if you're point is ,"hes the president he should be perfect." news flash you wont be happy with any president tard, the fact alone is no president period in history was perfect. He told a tard joke bawwwwwwwwwwwwww... Quit crying and go preach about it at your next sensitivity class Nobody said he should be perfect. But he SHOULD have enough sense not to make fun of handicapped. Maybe when you have a kid (let's PRAY not, what with wanting Chris Rock as a role model for them) and they're ********, you won't think it's so funny.

And lord knows you'd be the first one raising a storm and *****ing if I made a joke about those of mixed ethnicity.

And the obsession noted thing is another pathetic copout. Is that all you've got? Because we're in a debate and you're sticking your foot in your mouth time and time again, I'm somehow "obsessed" with you? LOL Well, if you say so.

[stevefoxsc]

blah blah blah jibbity jab jibbity jab


And if you haven't read it the first few times, that is the most pathetic defense, to compare him to someone else. He did it, he made a mistake. He's not the perfect president who will give you all the money you want without having to go to college or work, and his disapproval rate is skyrocketing. Deal with it.


Here whats funny, 2 presidents compared isn't fair especially since one has nothing to do with the convo, ok cool. So we bring in a bunch of other people, and its perfectly fine... Rules apply for some, but not others...

Here again, apples and oranges. Making a joke is fine. Making a joke that makes fun of people because of a condition they can't control is a out of line. Maybe people overlook it for comedians, but they can't for the president.

So why do you like chris rock? Basically its ok to make fun of some people but not ok for others to do it? Hypocrisy...

Uh, if you want a person like Chris Rock to be a role model for your kids, you're a joke, and I PRAY that you don't procreate for fear of ruining our gene pool even more.

Read carefully, and please point out were i said i wanted him to be my role model or my kids.

PLEASE tell me you're joking.... And a movie star =\= a comedian.

hmmm he does stand up, television, and film... So is he A) Commedian. B) Film star. C) Movie star. D) all over the above...

Nobody said he should be perfect. But he SHOULD have enough sense not to make fun of handicapped. Maybe when you have a kid (let's PRAY not, what with wanting Chris Rock as a role model for them) and they're ********, you won't think it's so funny.

So still you seem to be a comedian fan so are you offended by all the "white" jokes chris tells? Should you and your Caucasian friends dislike chris rock for that? You remind me of the one guy whose happy to be in one of those sensitivity diversity training seminars jobs have.

And lord knows you'd be the first one raising a storm and *****ing if I made a joke about those of mixed ethnicity.

Wait you mean Me? Who just said ," I'm black and would laugh at a black joke it was funny?"
hahaha

And the obsession noted thing is another pathetic copout. Is that all you've got? Because we're in a debate and you're sticking your foot in your mouth time and time again, I'm somehow "obsessed" with you? LOL Well, if you say so.
If we were in a debate all you did was contradict your self countless times and given away any credibility you had.

[Aggies2009]

Here whats funny, 2 presidents compared isn't fair especially since one has nothing to do with the convo, ok cool. So we bring in a bunch of other people, and its perfectly fine... Rules apply for some, but not others...


I didn't bring anyone else in, moron. You started trying to compare him to Bush. When that failed, you brought in Chris Rock and others. Maybe Obama was talking about you when he made fun of handicapped, and you're all over his nuts and were just so happy he mentioned you.


So why do you like chris rock? Basically its ok to make fun of some people but not ok for others to do it? Hypocrisy...

So apparently you don't get it (and probably never will which is why you never got into tu, etc.)... Chris Rock is a comedian. He is paid to tell jokes. If people get offended, they don't have to go see him, watch his shows, etc. Obama did this on national TV. If a comedian did that on national TV out of the blue, they'd be murdered for it too.



Read carefully, and please point out were i said i wanted him to be my role model or my kids.

Well, you acted like I was crazy for NOT wanting him to be a role model. One can deduce (if they have simple brain power, that is) that you meant you WOULD want him to be a role model.



hmmm he does stand up, television, and film... So is he A) Commedian. B) Film star. C) Movie star. D) all over the above...

But not E) The President of the United States of America



So still you seem to be a comedian fan so are you offended by all the "white" jokes chris tells? Should you and your Caucasian friends dislike chris rock for that? You remind me of the one guy whose happy to be in one of those sensitivity diversity training seminars jobs have.

Show me where I said I don't like his jokes, got offended by any, etc. I said already that he's my favorite comedian because if he DOES make a white joke, it's probably about something that is true, but he makes it funny.



Wait you mean Me? Who just said ," I'm black and would laugh at a black joke it was funny?"
hahaha

I bet if I made one right now, you'd go crying to the KTs. And I bet whenever Bush did anything of the sort, you were the first criticizing him simply because he wouldn't help you and your people when they sit on their ***** and do nothing.

So a black family, a mexican family, and a white family live in a 3 story house. The white family lives on the 3rd floor, the blacks on the bottom, and the mexicans in the middle. One day at about 10:00 AM, the building collapses. Who survives?

The white people do because the kids are at school and the parents are at work.


If we were in a debate all you did was contradict your self countless times and given away any credibility you had.

Funny, I haven't seen anyone other than you say such. Maybe prez will because he's the same as you are (and I won't say how). But people have agreed iwht what I've said before...

[the_phoenix612]

I didn't bring anyone else in, moron. You started trying to compare him to Bush. When that failed, you brought in Chris Rock and others. Maybe Obama was talking about you when he made fun of handicapped, and you're all over his nuts and were just so happy he mentioned you.




So apparently you don't get it (and probably never will which is why you never got into tu, etc.)... Chris Rock is a comedian. He is paid to tell jokes. If people get offended, they don't have to go see him, watch his shows, etc. Obama did this on national TV. If a comedian did that on national TV out of the blue, they'd be murdered for it too.





Well, you acted like I was crazy for NOT wanting him to be a role model. One can deduce (if they have simple brain power, that is) that you meant you WOULD want him to be a role model.





But not E) The President of the United States of America





Show me where I said I don't like his jokes, got offended by any, etc. I said already that he's my favorite comedian because if he DOES make a white joke, it's probably about something that is true, but he makes it funny.





I bet if I made one right now, you'd go crying to the KTs. And I bet whenever Bush did anything of the sort, you were the first criticizing him simply because he wouldn't help you and your people when they sit on their ***** and do nothing.

So a black family, a mexican family, and a white family live in a 3 story house. The white family lives on the 3rd floor, the blacks on the bottom, and the mexicans in the middle. One day at about 10:00 AM, the building collapses. Who survives?

The white people do because the kids are at school and the parents are at work.




Funny, I haven't seen anyone other than you say such. Maybe prez will because he's the same as you are (and I won't say how). But people have agreed iwht what I've said before...

At first I was like...
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m261/killerrabbit612/atfirst.jpg

But then I read your post
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m261/killerrabbit612/butthen.jpg


hey guys, I think dtrain has a new handle :rolleyes:

[pack75]

Thanks. I am not sure either. But I will not bow down at this presidents feet. He and really Pelosi/Reid have made a jole of this mess and I am tired of it.

Weird...I hope you haven't did that to any U.S. president! :eek:

[KT2000]

This one has run its course, and we certainly don't need a full blown racial argument on the board.