What offense would you install and why?

[tiger94]

Coworker and I were debating what offense would we install if we were offense coordinators. I would install the wishbone mixed in with pass plays, utilizing my tight end on pass plays so the linebackers have to be honest and paying attention. Coworker said the option and put more focus on the defensive side of the ball because defenses win championships. I am wanting to know what offense would you install and why?

[33Blood]

Slot-T

I want to control the ball and play defense.

[agmc27]

Power I formation with the TE lined up in the slot. It's a killer formation when you have the TE cracking back and knocking the daylights out of an unsuspecting defender on a sweep.

[F18mustang]

Triple Option FTW.

So hard to defend.

[ALLENFANDINGO5]

Although I have seen a lot of success with the spread(Allen Eagles) I would at least have a package with the QB under center with a tight end. Pro set with 2 wideouts and 2 backs like Katy and Trinity run is very versatile. But the idea of the spread is a good concept for getting favorable matchups and quick efficient pass plays that can act as a ball control offense.

[SLC]

Pro Set with a mix of shotgun. Commonly refered to as the "west coast offense".. The tight ends and fullbacks can be deadly in this set and with a crafty play caller it causes so very many mismatches for the defense.

[Mr. Rod]

Coworker and I were debating what offense would we install if we were offense coordinators. I would install the wishbone mixed in with pass plays, utilizing my tight end on pass plays so the linebackers have to be honest and paying attention. Coworker said the option and put more focus on the defensive side of the ball because defenses win championships. I am wanting to know what offense would you install and why?

I'd run the I-Formation and utilize my TE. The TE is my favorite position and I felt dissapointed that North Shore who had one of the Tight Ends in the country didn't pass him the ball more than they should have. But I would have my tight end get involved and like you said keep the LBs on their toes. And also be able to establish the run game with my RB while my FB led the way down the middle. But it would all have to do with the talent that I would have on the field. After all Football is a team sport.

[Big Daddy Cool]

I'd run the I-Formation and utilize my TE. The TE is my favorite position and I felt dissapointed that North Shore who had one of the Tight Ends in the country didn't pass him the ball more than they should have. But I would have my tight end get involved and like you said keep the LBs on their toes. And also be able to establish the run game with my RB while my FB led the way down the middle. But it would all have to do with the talent that I would have on the field. After all Football is a team sport.

North Shore has had several good tight ends over the years that have never been utilized to their full potential. I think it is a big reason they ahven't done more than they have. As far as what system I would run it would all come down to the talent level I had. I mean when you try and run a system that you don't have the right players for your just asking for a headache. I think the ideal system would be a system that is full of balance with some flares here and there. I wouldn't stick to a certain formation or system. i would do a little bit of everything that way the opposing defense can never game plan for just one formation or series of plays.

[Mr. Rod]

North Shore has had several good tight ends over the years that have never been utilized to their full potential. I think it is a big reason they ahven't done more than they have. As far as what system I would run it would all come down to the talent level I had. I mean when you try and run a system that you don't have the right players for your just asking for a headache. I think the ideal system would be a system that is full of balance with some flares here and there. I wouldn't stick to a certain formation or system. i would do a little bit of everything that way the opposing defense can never game plan for just one formation or series of plays.

The only TE on NS that I knew of that didn't have any hands was Deleon Farr (2003 State Champ Team). Dude was huge, a great blocker, and had big presence but lacked in catching skills and that's probably why Bobby Reid didn't throw to him.

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

I'd go with a little bit of spread option, just like Mansfield Summit ran with John Childs. Except, my QB would be alot more accurate. LOL! The spread option with the 2 wingbacks and a tailback, and with a QB like, Casey Pachall or Riley Dodge, would be deadly. Lufkin was dangerous anyway with "The Real Deal", and would've been equally deadly in the spread option, IMO.

[dada]

Power I formation with the TE lined up in the slot. It's a killer formation when you have the TE cracking back and knocking the daylights out of an unsuspecting defender on a sweep.

IHOP.....the name we have given Zach Swanson......you'll see why this season:D

[Bill4par]

If I was a OC, I would run the spread. Score lotta points quickly. The success of the spread is defined by the QB. If the kid can run and is very fluid, turn him loose. :)

[rodjohns]

Wing T baby...Wing T....:notworthy

[crunked9]

If I was an OC.....

I would install an offense that best suites the players I had.

If I had a QB with a rocket arm but had slow receivers. I would probably run the pro set and work off play action.

If I had big linemen and an above average RB, I would probably install a power I formation.

But if I had a choice I would go with the Single Wing. It gets every player involved. It is good for a team that has average to undersized lineman. And it is exciting to watch when run correctly.
I would not run a power style single wing. It would be the quick/deceptive Single Wing. (If you can find the ball, you can try and make the tackle, but look out for the lineman about to put you on you butt).

And the Single Wing I am talking about is not the "Wildcat" formation. It is the Knunte Rockney Single Wing.

[slcdragonfan]

If I was an OC.....

I would install an offense that best suites the players I had.

If I had a QB with a rocket arm but had slow receivers. I would probably run the pro set and work off play action.

If I had big linemen and an above average RB, I would probably install a power I formation.

But if I had a choice I would go with the Single Wing. It gets every player involved. It is good for a team that has average to undersized lineman. And it is exciting to watch when run correctly.
I would not run a power style single wing. It would be the quick/deceptive Single Wing. (If you can find the ball, you can try and make the tackle, but look out for the lineman about to put you on you butt).

And the Single Wing I am talking about is not the "Wildcat" formation. It is the Knunte Rockney Single Wing.

Just what I was going to say. I'd take a look at the players I had, who was coming up, what the players had experience in, and make the most of that combination.

[shelby]

Spread but we would use a TE some as well as some under center.

We would use it as a ball control offense with screens, short/intemediate passes, and sprint out to shorten throws and/or give the Qb the option to tuck it and run.

We would have lots of motion to help create mismatches and misdirection.

Zone read, counter, and fly sweep would be the base runs.

This will be beneficial even if we have inferior or slower athletes as long as they are disciplined. It would help us dictate matchups and get the defense to play in space rather than crowd the box and out athlete us or string us out to the sideline if they are faster.

[dragonpants]

Yes you have to look at your players but you have to install a system for the long haul so the first couple of years could be a little of this or that until you have had time to get kids in positions that are needed.
I like the college version of the spread, utilizing a tight end, occasionally 2 RB's but I would have my QB under center is short yardage situations that will eventually open up some more plays from under center. I never liked short yardage running plays from 7 yards deep.
I still think the strict version of the spread that TD used,(I am still trying to figure out what our offense was last year but that is in the past) is impossible to defend as long as you have obviously a good passer and a minimum of 3 good wide outs in addition to an above average RB. That is where most of the high school teams fail when running the spread. QB is not good enough or only one or two receivers that are good, they can be doubled and thus the spread is shut down.

[Wypirates03]

The one thing I WOULDN'T do is... Change the offense every year.

I might change it up a tad, or work with 2 different schemers.

Like...

Pro Set mixed in with some Spread

Spread mixed in with some I-Formation

Wing-T mixed in with some Spread

None-the-less... I would ALWAYS run the spread.

[SLC93]

With the advent of the spread and the better use of space I'd like to develop a hybrid. I've thought that someone like Lineweaver could take the multibone option we ran at Carroll and breed it with some spread concepts, using space, receiver placement and motion from the backfield to have a set that could adjust to whatever the defense showed it, in real time.

[crunked9]

With the advent of the spread and the better use of space I'd like to develop a hybrid. I've thought that someone like Lineweaver could take the multibone option we ran at Carroll and breed it with some spread concepts, using space, receiver placement and motion from the backfield to have a set that could adjust to whatever the defense showed it, in real time.

So you would run what Florida runs

[slcdragonfan]

The one thing I WOULDN'T do is... Change the offense every year.

I might change it up a tad, or work with 2 different schemers.

Like...

Pro Set mixed in with some Spread

Spread mixed in with some I-Formation

Wing-T mixed in with some Spread

None-the-less... I would ALWAYS run the spread.

I agree with the bolded, you end up needing to choose something and have your kids know it, be it, own it. same for 'pants post...

[SLC93]

So you would run what Florida runs

Yeah but I think I might explore some more radical formations with the backfield, setting up early with the threat of true wishbone and going from there.

[crunked9]

Yeah but I think I might explore some more radical formations with the backfield, setting up early with the threat of true wishbone and going from there.

Gotcha!

[SLC]

Just what I was going to say. I'd take a look at the players I had, who was coming up, what the players had experience in, and make the most of that combination.


So in essence you would change the offense every few years depending on who was coming up and what they were best suited for?

[slcdragonfan]

So in essence you would change the offense every few years depending on who was coming up and what they were best suited for?

Nooooooo. I knew after the other two responses I was gonna have to make a long-winded explanation and was trying to avoid it. Should have known Mr. SLC was gonna force my hand....:D

Here is the deal, I would want to see what the kids were capable of, both playing now and in the wings. I would also want to see what they had experience with. Depending upon the situation (were they 1-9 last year or 7-3?) I would choose an offense that played to their strengths. If they were 1-9, I can probably implement any offense. In that case, I like what Wypirates03 said. The spread as we all know is about creating opportunity in space. If I have QB's and WR, then we go more air, else we go more air. If the team was winning and on the verge with the Offense they had been playing, I probably wouldn't change much, just introduce some new elements. A lot like Wasson did with the 2-back set.

Make more sense? No, you can't change the offense every year and expect to win. but you can change the mix that you use within the offensive scheme.

[33Blood]

So in essence you would change the offense every few years depending on who was coming up and what they were best suited for?

I would install the system and stick with it forever but call plays based on the personnel. I would also make sure that all feeder schools and pee wee programs were running the same scheme.

[The King]

I would install a flexible system, that could be adapted to each years talents, but still be fundamentally the same year in and year out.

[ktCarl]

Although I have seen a lot of success with the spread(Allen Eagles) I would at least have a package with the QB under center with a tight end. Pro set with 2 wideouts and 2 backs like Katy and Trinity run is very versatile. But the idea of the spread is a good concept for getting favorable matchups and quick efficient pass plays that can act as a ball control offense.

I like this idea. The Spread works so well at the high school level since you don't run into a lot of defensive speed on a week to week basis. Occasionally use the Spread in 2 min situations and also run it to tire out a defense. Once you get a good lead go to the I predominately and pound the opponent with an occasional play action to move the chains. Of course it would take a while to get an offense in high school to be efficient at both but this is just my little dream world.

[Big Daddy Cool]

The only TE on NS that I knew of that didn't have any hands was Deleon Farr (2003 State Champ Team). Dude was huge, a great blocker, and had big presence but lacked in catching skills and that's probably why Bobby Reid didn't throw to him.

Deleon had hands just as good as Barrett's. Its just that like Barrett they kind of forgot about him come his senior year which seems to be a trend over the past couple of years with us. It seems like we always have a tight end who has a stellar sophomore or junior year as Barrett did and then they get forgotten about their senior year. I could understand us not using them if say they had hands like Jeremy Guthrie who had hands of stone. But both Barrett and Deloen had hands that were as good and any of the receivers we've had recently. Both were almost impossible to bring down when they got into the secondary. I guess though it comes down to our tendency of getting too conservative at times when we should be going for the jugular. Hopefully though with someone new calling the offensive plays we see less of that.

[HUM398]

IHOP.....the name we have given Zach Swanson......you'll see why this season:D

That kid is a freak of nature dude.

The kid doesn't look like he would be fast....But i watched him outrun Humble's Alphonzo Harleston...If you can get away from what i consider to be one of our fastest players, that is saying something....Harleston ran a 4.49, and ran his 4X1 split in 10.1 as a Freshman...i know the kid can fly...

[Raiders09]

If I was OC I'd run the Spread. It'll give my QB more time to see the field and able to move around more in and outside the pocket. I'll add a little option to the spread possibly the triple option off the gun if my QB is mobile. And I'd really like to run that option play Florida and Tebow ran that included that shuttle pass to the TE. But overall I'll run the spread because you can pass and if you focus on the pass then you leave the run to go all the way.