TOP 10 from Austin Area 5A for 2009

[knowitall mom]

I'll start

1: Stony Point - momemtum & too many horses:notworthy
2: Copperas Cove - same as above
3: Cedar Park - very physical, QB will decide how good wolves will be
4: Westlake - Allmans opener vs. CP will let us know whats in store;)
5: Pflugerville (Dillon) - too much speed for 25-5A & region 4:D
6: Round Rock - dragons always find a way to get it done
7: Austin High - big time QB, new coach, lots of talent...could surprise
8: Georgetown - starting to play with the big boys, WRs back
9: Leander - new LISD schools taking a toll on Lions, talent remains:o
10. Temple - If Seastrunk stays bridled...watchout!:Censor:

[twcpfan1]

Isn't Copperas Cove in Waco. Nowhere near Austin, right?

Cedar Park D needs to recruit from the Girls Basketball Team. They know how to hit.

[mad_fan]

isn't copperas cove in waco. Nowhere near austin, right?

cedar park d needs to recruit from the girls basketball team. They know how to hit.

:)...

[Bass]

Isn't Copperas Cove in Waco. Nowhere near Austin, right?
They're 40 miles west of Temple and around 70 miles north of Austin. Close enough, I'd say.

Cedar Park D needs to recruit from the Girls Basketball Team. They know how to hit.
lol

See red.

[austin pride]

I'll start

1: Stony Point - momemtum & too many horses:notworthy
2: Copperas Cove - same as above
3: Cedar Park - very physical, QB will decide how good wolves will be
4: Westlake - Allmans opener vs. CP will let us know whats in store;)
5: Pflugerville (Dillon) - too much speed for 25-5A & region 4:D
6: Round Rock - dragons always find a way to get it done
7: Austin High - big time QB, new coach, lots of talent...could surprise
8: Georgetown - starting to play with the big boys, WRs back
9: Leander - new LISD schools taking a toll on Lions, talent remains:o
10. Temple - If Seastrunk stays bridled...watchout!:Censor:
switch Cedar Park and Westlake and you got it right.

[twolf5]

switch Cedar Park and Westlake and you got it right.

Ha, based on what? I'd love to hear your thoughts. After smoking Westlake last year in a totally non competitive game until we emptied the bench in the 4th, we return 15 starters. Yall?

[twcpfan1]

See red.

Austin's not that big. I'd say 70 miles from it is relatively a long way. Even 70 miles from Houston in any direction would not be considered a Houston area team. Think 40 miles west of Katy.

All kidding aside though and all the foolishness set aside, the Cedar Park Lady Wolves will be very very good next year based on what I've seen. They're very smart. They could meet College Park again sometime in the playoffs. (Hopefully we get that far)

[jgmike101]

switch Cedar Park and Westlake and you got it right.

You kidding right

[covedawgfan]

The top 10 in Austin area looks about right. Just a quick post regarding Copperas Cove being in the Austin area. I wish the UIL would have put Copperas Cove in a district that included Geogetown and Leander as well a the current teams in Killeen, Temple and Belton. And placed AMC and Bryan in another district. Although AMC and Cove always have good games the schools just should not in the same district.

[bowiedawgs01]

Don't be surprised if Bowie beats Austin High again and gives the other 2 a run for their money in district.

[knowitall mom]

Don't be surprised if Bowie beats Austin High again and gives the other 2 a run for their money in district.


I thought long & hard about Bowie being in my top 10. Unfortunately, I was not able to see the Bulldogs in 08.
The loss to a bad Vista Ridge team was my decider. I also realize 25-5A is not a strong district, another reason to leave the dogs out.

[chapfan2008]

Westlake and Cedar Park both return alot of guys. However I think CP's front 7 and offensive line will be the difference in the game.

[aftermath]

Unfortunately for Cedar Park fans,pre-season games don't count. Wolves limped into playoffs(if that), and didn't last. Westlake lost early but turned it around , went to playoffs(as they have for 22 years in a row), and lost in state quarter finals. Westlake is just so consistant,and has a bunch of talent back. if new coach is all that is cracked up to be ,they will be tough. Cedar Park will struggle to make the playoffs,and peter out late. Westlake will finish the season higher than CP.

[picperp]

Bowie's better than Austin High. Wait till you see their RB. As far as they're loss to Vista Ridge in 08!? I think everyone in South Austin is scratching their heads.
I think Austin High is gonna tumble. They've had such a good run of talent in recent years (Blake, Decambre, Bowers, Buchanan, Collins, etc. all) and couldn't do that much. I love the old-school Maroon faithful, but they'll miss the playoffs this year.

[twolf5]

Unfortunately for Cedar Park fans,pre-season games don't count. Wolves limped into playoffs(if that), and didn't last. Westlake lost early but turned it around , went to playoffs(as they have for 22 years in a row), and lost in state quarter finals. Westlake is just so consistant,and has a bunch of talent back. if new coach is all that is cracked up to be ,they will be tough. Cedar Park will struggle to make the playoffs,and peter out late. Westlake will finish the season higher than CP.

Whatever dude. We rolled you, we are in a much tougher district, and our playoffs are against real teams not the HS for the Sisters Of The Blind in south texas.

Yes, you will roll on into the playoffs in that sub par district, and you'll do great in the playoffs as usual. That's the luck of the "regional draw". You just happen to have the winning numbers.

How did Westlake do for the two years they were in our Region? I think they lost in round one to Pflugerville both years didn't they?

[aftermath]

Just show us some numbers, playoffs? Championships? State Finals? Semis?Quarters? It must flatter westlake that you think so highly of them, that 1 pre-season victory made your season,or is your legacy,but if you want to be a big-time program(and you are not).you have to roll-up some history. Pre-season is for development,you guys need to learn to win when it counts.

[twolf5]

Just show us some numbers, playoffs? Championships? State Finals? Semis?Quarters? It must flatter westlake that you think so highly of them, that 1 pre-season victory made your season,or is your legacy,but if you want to be a big-time program(and you are not).you have to roll-up some history. Pre-season is for development,you guys need to learn to win when it counts.


Ha! Love it. Like I said, good program who wins the lotter every year with your district and region that UIL blesses you with. I guess the only stat that matters between us is 1-0. :notworthy

We'll see you in, oh I haven't checked the countdown clock lately but you can at www.cedarparkfootball.org (http://www.cedarparkfootball.org) On top......

[aftermath]

"Every Year" is the key phrase in your last comment. "Never" would be the replacement phrase if we were discussing the wolves. You guys have a good team ,but it will be hard to replace Russo, and it looks like Thornhill is a baseball guy. You guys do have 3-4 tough teams in your district,but with the addition of Pflugerville to ours,it helps you guys and makes ours a bit tougher.I think CP is ripe for success ,it would help if you guys would be allowed to build a stadium where your practice field is to create some home field advantage.See you guys in late August,we may have a new look with the new guy.

[CCParent]

I'll start

1: Stony Point - momemtum & too many horses:notworthy
2: Copperas Cove - same as above
3: Cedar Park - very physical, QB will decide how good wolves will be
4: Westlake - Allmans opener vs. CP will let us know whats in store;)
5: Pflugerville (Dillon) - too much speed for 25-5A & region 4:D
6: Round Rock - dragons always find a way to get it done
7: Austin High - big time QB, new coach, lots of talent...could surprise
8: Georgetown - starting to play with the big boys, WRs back
9: Leander - new LISD schools taking a toll on Lions, talent remains:o
10. Temple - If Seastrunk stays bridled...watchout
You don't do baseball picks for the AA-S do you? The same lack of knowledge of facts.:confused:

[svhorns]

Whatever dude. We rolled you, we are in a much tougher district, and our playoffs are against real teams not the HS for the Sisters Of The Blind in south texas.

Yes, you will roll on into the playoffs in that sub par district, and you'll do great in the playoffs as usual. That's the luck of the "regional draw". You just happen to have the winning numbers.

How did Westlake do for the two years they were in our Region? I think they lost in round one to Pflugerville both years didn't they?

I understand you're trying to argue with a Westlake fan but San Antonio football is light years in front of Austin football. Westlake is the only school with any type of history in the city of Austin.

[jgmike101]

You don't do baseball picks for the AA-S do you? The same lack of knowledge of facts.:confused:
Go ahead and give us your top ten
everyone should list them down
Mine is coming soon

[STPFootball2011]

Ha, based on what? I'd love to hear your thoughts. After smoking Westlake last year in a totally non competitive game until we emptied the bench in the 4th, we return 15 starters. Yall?
agree that CP is a big player in 16-5a this year. with there mammoth o-line and a lot of there d-line/lb's back they'll give us a run for there money. the question is though is who's gonna fill the skill positions?

[twolf5]

I understand you're trying to argue with a Westlake fan but San Antonio football is light years in front of Austin football. Westlake is the only school with any type of history in the city of Austin.


Light years? Well maybe against "Austin" schools which includes Westlakes district. We aren't Austin.

What's your record against top north Austin teams in the past 5 years? Leander, Pflugerville, Georgetown (beat the snot out of South San this year) Lake Travis, I doubt it's over 500. We'll take Leander vs. Judson to start off with and go from there.

[twolf5]

agree that CP is a big player in 16-5a this year. with there mammoth o-line and a lot of there d-line/lb's back they'll give us a run for there money. the question is though is who's gonna fill the skill positions?


Nothin but love for SP my man. That's turning into a really nice rivalry for us, well heck for everyone I guess since y'all are going to be solid every year.

We return every receiver, our next 1500 yard back is Darren Thornhill. Others solid players to fill in the backs. If Darren's brother Nathan plays football and doens't concentrate on baseball (where's he's already committed to Texas) our QB will be awesome as well.

[bowiedawgs01]

I thought long & hard about Bowie being in my top 10. Unfortunately, I was not able to see the Bulldogs in 08.
The loss to a bad Vista Ridge team was my decider. I also realize 25-5A is not a strong district, another reason to leave the dogs out.


I can't exactly tell you what happened that night. I do know we failed on 4th down in VR territory twice in the first half. Missed a FG. Gave up a KR for TD, had a punt snap go over our guy's head to set up a TD and gave up an onside kick that was a pooch that bounced back inbounds instead of going out (setting up another TD).

It was one of those "when it rains, it pours" games. We then went to Round Rock and slapped them around.

If I'm picking playoff teams from 25-5A, I'm going with Bowie, Westlake, Pville and Connally. Austin and Bastrop will be stout teams, but I think will just miss.

Top 10 of CenTex?

No particular order as of right now. Just getting 10 teams off the top of my head...

Stony Point
Copperas Cove
Westlake
Cedar Park
Leander
Pflugerville
Bowie
Round Rock
Temple
Pflugerville Connally

Connally has a lot returning. I think they're a sleeper team.

[svhorns]

Light years? Well maybe against "Austin" schools which includes Westlakes district. We aren't Austin.

What's your record against top north Austin teams in the past 5 years? Leander, Pflugerville, Georgetown (beat the snot out of South San this year) Lake Travis, I doubt it's over 500. We'll take Leander vs. Judson to start off with and go from there.

Against RR, RR Westwood, Leander, and Pflugerville Judson and SV combined are 19-9 against those schools... those are the only North Austin schools those schools have played...

Smithson Valley is 4-1 against North Austin since 1994 when SV brought in Coach Hill... Converse Judson is 11-2 against North Austin schools... District 26-5a had 2 state champions in one year... SA Roosevelt and Converse Judson in 1995... North Austin is on the rise there's no doubting that but Westlake has numerous amounts of State Championship appearances which means they had to play out of their region in the playoffs... something Cedar Park has yet to do.



SV History
http://texashsfootball.com/board/index.php?showtopic=12787

Judson History
http://texashsfootball.com/board/index.php?showtopic=12787

[twolf5]

Against RR, RR Westwood, Leander, and Pflugerville Judson and SV combined are 19-9 against those schools... those are the only North Austin schools those schools have played...

Smithson Valley is 4-1 against North Austin since 1994 when SV brought in Coach Hill... Converse Judson is 11-2 against North Austin schools... District 26-5a had 2 state champions in one year... SA Roosevelt and Converse Judson in 1995... North Austin is on the rise there's no doubting that but Westlake has numerous amounts of State Championship appearances which means they had to play out of their region in the playoffs... something Cedar Park has yet to do.



SV History
http://texashsfootball.com/board/index.php?showtopic=12787

Judson History
http://texashsfootball.com/board/index.php?showtopic=12787

OK, going back to when I was in college then of course you are right. I remember Cody Carlson at Churchhill. SA was great then. That would have been when they played the vast majority of those games.

Take the last 5 years and the story is very very different. We would LOVE to play San Antonio teams right now vs. going to Houston or North.

[svhorns]

OK, going back to when I was in college then of course you are right. I remember Cody Carlson at Churchhill. SA was great then. That would have been when they played the vast majority of those games.

Take the last 5 years and the story is very very different. We would LOVE to play San Antonio teams right now vs. going to Houston or North.

I went to McNeil my frosh. and Soph. years... I know about 16-5a...I live in Cedar Park right now well technically it's Austin but Cedar Park is a 2 minute walk away... My favorite district to watch other than 26-5a is 16-5a because top to bottom those two districts are consistently competitive... there is never a clear cut favorite in the district.

[MHSfootball]

1.STP
2.Round Rock
3.P-ville
4.Westlake
5.Cedar park
6.Cove
7.leander
8. Austin high
9.G-Town
10.Mcneil

[chapfootball123]

Wow, the chaps are getting a lot of love in all of these polls, which is somewhat surprising to me considering the new shake up with the entire coaching staff. Now I wouldn't be surprised if they started slow out of the gate again, it takes a little while to learn a new offense and defensive system. They will get it, "it's like nova cain, give it time and it works". Oh and as for the CP trash talk, when ya'll win or even appear in the state championship, then you can come talk to me, but until then stop whinning about your district and play football. It's nice to beat westlake in your first game, but it's not about how you start, it's about how you finish and thus far the wolves haven't been able to prove a whole lot in the finishing department.

[chapfootball123]

Oh and stony point is a freak, watch for a deep run again...

[pvillepanthers61]

watch out for pflugerville's defense alot of no names that will be starting next year but nonetheless this d may one of if not the best in the the area and region and also be on the lookout for their qb alex dean #10 has some really strong potential to be a great leader and qb

[twolf5]

Wow, the chaps are getting a lot of love in all of these polls, which is somewhat surprising to me considering the new shake up with the entire coaching staff. Now I wouldn't be surprised if they started slow out of the gate again, it takes a little while to learn a new offense and defensive system. They will get it, "it's like nova cain, give it time and it works". Oh and as for the CP trash talk, when ya'll win or even appear in the state championship, then you can come talk to me, but until then stop whinning about your district and play football. It's nice to beat westlake in your first game, but it's not about how you start, it's about how you finish and thus far the wolves haven't been able to prove a whole lot in the finishing department.

Bla bla bla....all this started with a question that I'm guessing Westlake cannot answer so they changed the subject to "history". Someone from westlake believes they will be better than Cedar Park this year. I simply asked "why"? Don't give me your great history lesson, hell Cedar Park is only 10 years old in a multi school district who won't even be 5A next year. Y'all should beat our pants off!

So, quit all the history lessons and answer the simple question. Why do you think Westlake is better than Cedar Park this year? For what it's worth, here's my top 10 and I think I've explained why.....

1: Stony Point - 3200 kids, great athletes and coaching, and now they believe
2: Copperas Cove - great athletes every year, great coaching every year, great tradition of success.
3: Cedar Park - big, deep, experienced, very physical, and yes the QB situation will decide how good wolves will be
4: Pflugerville (Dillon) - too much speed for 25-5A & region 4
5: Leander - they will fight back this year, they don't quit
6: Round Rock - great skill players and very good coaching
7: Westlake - Will always be good, new coach will bring new energy and focus
8: Bowie - I'll go with this one vs. Austin High because they do have great skill players.
9: Georgetown - again, big school, one horse town
10. Temple - How can you not be in the top 10 with a top 5 back in the nation?

[aftermath]

Cedar Park is a nobody in your own district.You use Leanders stadium ,and you can't do better than one or two big wins a year. Inconsistent ,describes your program. You beat somebody good one week and lose to a 3-10 team the next. Its a laugh to mention your name in the same breath as Smithson, Judson, Permian, Westlake,Katy, SLC,etc. You have a decent team but a long way to go.Parents,Coaches,Student Athletes,it takes all to make it work.One college prospect O-lineman won't do it,everybody has one.Think "Big-Picture". Concentrate on StonyPoint,RoundRock,Georgetown and Leander to start. Get out of your district,go a few rounds deep for a few years,then come back and see us.Big talk off the field gets you nowhere.One good hole is not enough,you have to play all 18.

[SV61]

Cedar Park is a nobody in your own district.You use Leanders stadium ,and you can't do better than one or two big wins a year. Inconsistent ,describes your program. You beat somebody good one week and lose to a 3-10 team the next. Its a laugh to mention your name in the same breath as Smithson, Judson, Permian, Westlake,Katy, SLC,etc. You have a decent team but a long way to go.Parents,Coaches,Student Athletes,it takes all to make it work.One college prospect O-lineman won't do it,everybody has one.Think "Big-Picture". Concentrate on StonyPoint,RoundRock,Georgetown and Leander to start. Get out of your district,go a few rounds deep for a few years,then come back and see us.Big talk off the field gets you nowhere.One good hole is not enough,you have to play all 18.

While we're at it,

Since we are including teams like Copperas Cove (which was very good last year, btw) in the mix (70 miles away, is it?) shouldn't we include teams from the New Braufels and Smithson Valley area?

That MIGHT change the landscape of the top 10 of the "Austin area".

[twolf5]

Cedar Park is a nobody in your own district.You use Leanders stadium ,and you can't do better than one or two big wins a year. Inconsistent ,describes your program. You beat somebody good one week and lose to a 3-10 team the next. Its a laugh to mention your name in the same breath as Smithson, Judson, Permian, Westlake,Katy, SLC,etc. You have a decent team but a long way to go.Parents,Coaches,Student Athletes,it takes all to make it work.One college prospect O-lineman won't do it,everybody has one.Think "Big-Picture". Concentrate on StonyPoint,RoundRock,Georgetown and Leander to start. Get out of your district,go a few rounds deep for a few years,then come back and see us.Big talk off the field gets you nowhere.One good hole is not enough,you have to play all 18.


Man, you Chappies are a sensitive bunch. I've never compared Cedar Park to Judson, Smithson Valley or Katy, we've never even played them though we'd love to. Our only "hole" that counts as it relates to Westlake is week one, and the only "history" that matters is ahead of us not musing about your high school girl friend when your 35. You STILL can't or won't answer the simple question I've been asking. Y'all Chaps are really good and ducking direct questions.

[twolf5]

While we're at it,

Since we are including teams like Copperas Cove (which was very good last year, btw) in the mix (70 miles away, is it?) shouldn't we include teams from the New Braufels and Smithson Valley area?

That MIGHT change the landscape of the top 10 of the "Austin area".


It's a good point.....

[bowiedawgs01]

SV is closer to San Antonio, so they get lumped into that area. Temple/Cove are sort of in no-mans land. They're somewhat close to Austin, so they get lumped with us. I don't see it working the other way.

[STPFootball2011]

Nothin but love for SP my man. That's turning into a really nice rivalry for us, well heck for everyone I guess since y'all are going to be solid every year.

We return every receiver, our next 1500 yard back is Darren Thornhill. Others solid players to fill in the backs. If Darren's brother Nathan plays football and doens't concentrate on baseball (where's he's already committed to Texas) our QB will be awesome as well.
thanks man appreciate it. might not last long if you move down to 4a. i hope we're around awhile will just have to see what cedar ridge does to our population and talet. was thornhill the guy who came in for mcknight or mcloud? wasnt really impressed with him, he get anhy better?

[STPFootball2011]

OK, going back to when I was in college then of course you are right. I remember Cody Carlson at Churchhill. SA was great then. That would have been when they played the vast majority of those games.

Take the last 5 years and the story is very very different. We would LOVE to play San Antonio teams right now vs. going to Houston or North.
agree dallas and houstin produce better teams year in and year out. probably due to the huge schools and huge cities but still...
I went to McNeil my frosh. and Soph. years... I know about 16-5a...I live in Cedar Park right now well technically it's Austin but Cedar Park is a 2 minute walk away... My favorite district to watch other than 26-5a is 16-5a because top to bottom those two districts are consistently competitive... there is never a clear cut favorite in the district.
consider 16-5a better then 16-5a. you can pretty much count out akins, bastrop, and maybe anderson every year while in 16-5a its been crazy with upsets and goode teams the past couple years

[MHSfootball]

agree dallas and houstin produce better teams year in and year out. probably due to the huge schools and huge cities but still...

consider 16-5a better then 16-5a. you can pretty much count out akins, bastrop, and maybe anderson every year while in 16-5a its been crazy with upsets and goode teams the past couple years
I agree to this post. 16-5a is one of if not the toughest district in the state. There has only been one season from what I know that there has been a clear cut 0 loss team (district)was last years STP team. And even they were 7-0 they still didn't run the district. Every team brings it every time in this district.

[STPFootball2011]

I agree to this post. 16-5a is one of if not the toughest district in the state. There has only been one season from what I know that there has been a clear cut 0 loss team (district)was last years STP team. And even they were 7-0 they still didn't run the district. Every team brings it every time in this district.
might not say that if we beat you by more then 10;)

[chop44]

16-5A is much better top to bottom as compared to 25-5A. As a Pville phan I would prefer to be back in 16-5A. Still Pville couldn't win the 25-5A district out right last year. Like said earlier, in 16-5A any team can upset someone every week and the same can't be said in 25-5A.

[STPFootball2011]

16-5A is much better top to bottom as compared to 25-5A. As a Pville phan I would prefer to be back in 16-5A. Still Pville couldn't win the 25-5A district out right last year. Like said earlier, in 16-5A any team can upset someone every week and the same can't be said in 25-5A.
was surprised P-ville couldnt get it done in 26-5a, thought they'd romp. hope you guys were back with us in 16, vista ridge hasnt learned how to play football yet:D

[jgmike101]

I agree to this post. 16-5a is one of if not the toughest district in the state. There has only been one season from what I know that there has been a clear cut 0 loss team (district)was last years STP team. And even they were 7-0 they still didn't run the district. Every team brings it every time in this district.

Leander went 7-0 in district in 2006

[MHSfootball]

Leander went 7-0 in district in 2006
That I was not aware of. Note taken. And STP, What was yalls closet game?

[D-5]

Probably should switch Georgetown and Cedar park. The Eagles stayed in house with Head coach, so the bus will keep rolling. Plus Georgetown put the beat down on Cedar Park in there own back yard last year. I think Cedar Park like Leander is starting to fill the affects of the mass opening of schools around and the talent is getting spread thin.

[twolf5]

Probably should switch Georgetown and Cedar park. The Eagles stayed in house with Head coach, so the bus will keep rolling. Plus Georgetown put the beat down on Cedar Park in there own back yard last year. I think Cedar Park like Leander is starting to fill the affects of the mass opening of schools around and the talent is getting spread thin.


D-5 I'll ask you the same question. Based on what should Gtown be above CP? Certainly last year is irrelevant. The fact that we return 15 starters however is very relevant. We return 100% of our front 7 on defense, and will have a sick offensive line.

So, what's Gtwon have coming back?

[twolf5]

Man, you Chappies are a sensitive bunch. I've never compared Cedar Park to Judson, Smithson Valley or Katy, we've never even played them though we'd love to. Our only "hole" that counts as it relates to Westlake is week one, and the only "history" that matters is ahead of us not musing about your high school girl friend when your 35. You STILL can't or won't answer the simple question I've been asking. Y'all Chaps are really good and ducking direct questions.


Come on all you historically minded Chaparoooski's....where'd ya go? Let's move past the grand history lesson and hear why you think you'll whip up on old Cedar Park in game one, which is....let me check.....172 days 2 hours and 57 minutes away from kickoff.....according to the old countdown clock on the web site.

[STPFootball2011]

Probably should switch Georgetown and Cedar park. The Eagles stayed in house with Head coach, so the bus will keep rolling. Plus Georgetown put the beat down on Cedar Park in there own back yard last year. I think Cedar Park like Leander is starting to fill the affects of the mass opening of schools around and the talent is getting spread thin.
i dont know about that. g-towns losing a lot of guys from last year and i dont knowhow much talent is comig up. cedar park has a lot of talent coming back but i do have concerns about there inconsistensy in games last year

[MHSfootball]

Who besides P-ville, Westlake, Cove or STP, Could make the longest run in the playoffs?

[gunnyman]

I'll start

1: Stony Point - momemtum & too many horses:notworthy
2: Copperas Cove - same as above
3: Cedar Park - very physical, QB will decide how good wolves will be
4: Westlake - Allmans opener vs. CP will let us know whats in store;)
5: Pflugerville (Dillon) - too much speed for 25-5A & region 4:D
6: Round Rock - dragons always find a way to get it done
7: Austin High - big time QB, new coach, lots of talent...could surprise
8: Georgetown - starting to play with the big boys, WRs back
9: Leander - new LISD schools taking a toll on Lions, talent remains:o
10. Temple - If Seastrunk stays bridled...watchout!:Censor:

Funny thing here is whoever wins will go north to the DFW and get sent packing south as the loser. SP did a tremendous job last season, but still fell short. I say 5 more years before this region can really start to hang with the elite programs in DFW or Houston.

[chapfootball123]

Come on all you historically minded Chaparoooski's....where'd ya go? Let's move past the grand history lesson and hear why you think you'll whip up on old Cedar Park in game one, which is....let me check.....172 days 2 hours and 57 minutes away from kickoff.....according to the old countdown clock on the web site.

See and this is the thing you aren't understanding, we don't really care how we do pre-district. I mean it's nice to win and all, but it's really just about getting prepared for district and that run from district into playoffs. Cedar Park is an athletic team and I think with our coaching change and all other things considered it will be a close game. I can't really give you a score prediction, considering we are 172 days away like you said, but i will guess that it will be a close ball game.... sufficient answer twolf????

[chapfan2008]

Twolf in the 1st page I agreed that CP would beat us this year, but give it a rest. CP is not God's team, they will not win state or come close. You're in a tough district, bfd. You also claim that when we're in region II we never go past the first round but we still made it to the playoffs every year, where are ya'll on thanksgiving day. Sitting at home watching the cowboys? Don't say I'm giving you a history lesson either because when you said that we only have made the playoffs 22 straight because of district you open the door. We still made it when we were in your district, more than y'all can say.

But to answer the question, we will probably not beat CP.

[twolf5]

Twolf in the 1st page I agreed that CP would beat us this year, but give it a rest. CP is not God's team, they will not win state or come close. You're in a tough district, bfd. You also claim that when we're in region II we never go past the first round but we still made it to the playoffs every year, where are ya'll on thanksgiving day. Sitting at home watching the cowboys? Don't say I'm giving you a history lesson either because when you said that we only have made the playoffs 22 straight because of district you open the door. We still made it when we were in your district, more than y'all can say.

But to answer the question, we will probably not beat CP.

OK so I'm inviting another history lesson, yuk, but when were you in "our district"? That's a new one to me.

[twolf5]

See and this is the thing you aren't understanding, we don't really care how we do pre-district. I mean it's nice to win and all, but it's really just about getting prepared for district and that run from district into playoffs. Cedar Park is an athletic team and I think with our coaching change and all other things considered it will be a close game. I can't really give you a score prediction, considering we are 172 days away like you said, but i will guess that it will be a close ball game.... sufficient answer twolf????

That's crap. I promise you your coaches and kids will care on that Friday night. And they won't give 85% effort to win the game, they'll give 110% effort to win the game on the first friday night game in the history of our new stadium against a team that had their way with you last year.

You may not care, but your team certainly will and so will ours.

[MHSfootball]

Twolf5 and Chapfan...s. What are ya'll argueing about again? Because it seems to be the same repeptitive rambling about LAST years score.

[aftermath]

OK twolf you want to hear the truth.Westlake should be rated higher than CP because CP can't look ahead, they (including you) think that if you catch a break and win a pre-season game against a big name football power(that would be Westlake), that it makes you whole season. You guys can't see the forest for the trees. People in that sprawling suburb that you call a town will be "cruising the local Sonic Burger" for the next 20 years taking about how you beat Westlake in 2008.Nobody else cares,you finished mid-pack in your own district(a good district,but not that good).Win or lose against CP,Westlake will always finish the season better than CP because they get it done when it counts.We won't show up with cowbells and noisemakers,big hair ,spandex pants, fake gucci bags,too much makeup, spinners on the car etc. . We will show up with a game plan, and season expectations,and unlike at CP, it usually works out for us.

[twolf5]

OK twolf you want to hear the truth.Westlake should be rated higher than CP because CP can't look ahead, they (including you) think that if you catch a break and win a pre-season game against a big name football power(that would be Westlake), that it makes you whole season. You guys can't see the forest for the trees. People in that sprawling suburb that you call a town will be "cruising the local Sonic Burger" for the next 20 years taking about how you beat Westlake in 2008.Nobody else cares,you finished mid-pack in your own district(a good district,but not that good).Win or lose against CP,Westlake will always finish the season better than CP because they get it done when it counts.We won't show up with cowbells and noisemakers,big hair ,spandex pants, fake gucci bags,too much makeup, spinners on the car etc. . We will show up with a game plan, and season expectations,and unlike at CP, it usually works out for us.


Once again, no answer. I thought you westlake guys were smarter than this. So your better becuase......your better.....and.....your district is easier.....and.......you have history.......and.......your westlake by God!

I heard your coach last year talk about one of your playoff games saying "Harlingen was one of the best teams to ever come out of the valley". That sums it up right there.

All of us sonic shake lovers here in hicksville wish we played Akins, Anderson, Bastrop, Austin High, Bowie instead of Leander, Round Rock, Stony Point, Georgetown, McNeil, Westwood etc. But, it's the luck of the draw now isn't it.

Everyone in Texas know's how fortunate Westlake is to be playing SA Roosevelt and SA Stevens and Harlingen vs. having to play Klein Oak, Cy Creek, Lufkin etc. But naaaaaa......that doesn't really matter. :notworthy

We'll be your warm up game for your next state championship run. Someone has to be the sacrifice. Mmmmm....time to get my sonic card charged up!!!!

[Central Texas Fan]

TWolf5 -

You want to know the funniest thing about this entire conversation? Cedar Park has a countdown clock on their website to the Westlake game. I bet there aren't ten people in Westlake that even know that Cedar Park is the first game of the season. And that pretty much sums up the status of the two programs...::)

[twolf5]

TWolf5 -

You want to know the funniest thing about this entire conversation? Cedar Park has a countdown clock on their website to the Westlake game. I bet there aren't ten people in Westlake that even know that Cedar Park is the first game of the season. And that pretty much sums up the status of the two programs...::)

Na. That looks like a countdown for the "first game" of a season the folks in CP expect to be a great one......that game just happens to be vs. the Chaps. If Temple was our first game it would be a countdown clock to Temple, or Lake Travis etc.

Hey come to the game, it should be a great one and I'd guess it will be packed!

[bowiedawgs01]

How did this devolve from a CenTex Top 10 discussion into a CP/WL slap fight?

[aftermath]

Part of it is a "Diss" on the Bowie Bulldogs, T-wolf seems to think that district is sooo much tougher than ours, i'll put Westlake ,Bowie, Pflugerville and Austin High.against their top anytime,especially Cedar Park.

[Loyal Forever]

1. Stony Point
2. Copperas Cove (if you want to consider them 'Austin Area'
3. Westlake
4. Pflugerville
5. Cedar Park
6. Georgetown
7. Bowie
8. Austin High
9. Round Rock
10. Connally

Sleeper teams for next year: Connally, Bastrop, Leander (if they can be considered a sleeper----only because they didn't make the playoffs last year).

[twolf5]

Part of it is a "Diss" on the Bowie Bulldogs, T-wolf seems to think that district is sooo much tougher than ours, i'll put Westlake ,Bowie, Pflugerville and Austin High.against their top anytime,especially Cedar Park.


And you'll get your chance to do it under the Friday Night Lights, not just on the internet. ;)

Just a fact check for you. Bowie lost to Vista Ridge who didn't win a single district game in our "same as yours" district last year. They were smoked by all 7 teams they played in our district after beating Bowie.

[STPFootball2011]

How did this devolve from a CenTex Top 10 discussion into a CP/WL slap fight?
since when do any of these threads stay on topic? just be glad it not another katy vs anyone fight

[STPFootball2011]

Part of it is a "Diss" on the Bowie Bulldogs, T-wolf seems to think that district is sooo much tougher than ours, i'll put Westlake ,Bowie, Pflugerville and Austin High.against their top anytime,especially Cedar Park.
but would you put Akins, Bastrop, and Anderson againist Vista Ridge, Westwood, and Mcneil?

[STPFootball2011]

Twolf in the 1st page I agreed that CP would beat us this year, but give it a rest. CP is not God's team, they will not win state or come close. You're in a tough district, bfd. You also claim that when we're in region II we never go past the first round but we still made it to the playoffs every year, where are ya'll on thanksgiving day. Sitting at home watching the cowboys? Don't say I'm giving you a history lesson either because when you said that we only have made the playoffs 22 straight because of district you open the door. We still made it when we were in your district, more than y'all can say.

But to answer the question, we will probably not beat CP.
Chap fans you gotta admit you are a little lucky in terms of district and region. 16-5a teams have traditionally done very well aganist 26-5a teams and is almost always the stronger district. 16-5a teams have to travel through region 2 which has very good teams along the way including The Woodlands, Lufkin, Garland, Skyline, and whatever good team that comes out of Cy Fair. Westlake has to go through Region 4 where if you get a good matchup when playing 25-5a which is where many of the good SA teams are then you aren't playing very good teams until you get to the regional finals or even the semi-finals. you cant really compare where you got in the playoffs, its what teams you played and how they got there

[MHSfootball]

but would you put Akins, Bastrop, and Anderson againist Vista Ridge, Westwood, and Mcneil?
This thread is staying on topic. Just lose the Chatter between CP and Westlake. (Which I'm thinking has to do with the fact that CP beat them and now state it. And Westlake being who they are defended themselves. No problem just not here. And then CP boys started stating how they IDK aren't getting enough credit for their win.)

And honetly until you play in another teams district you will consider your district the toughest.

[LeanderLions3033]

This thread is staying on topic. Just lose the Chatter between CP and Westlake. (Which I'm thinking has to do with the fact that CP beat them and now state it. And Westlake being who they are defended themselves. No problem just not here. And then CP boys started stating how they IDK aren't getting enough credit for their win.)

And honetly until you play in another teams district you will consider your district the toughest.

No way bro, in this case i dont think their is any argument. 16-5a is the tougher district. Its too bad we can't just be 25 & 26 5a so we could just figure it out ever year (oh wait we did do that when it was 15 and 16 5a). Id much rather do it in region 4 though, instead of in region 2. 25-5a needs to have a few more teams get out of the 1st round before they can talk smack to 16 5a.

[chapfan2008]

Your district is sooooooooooooo tough waah waah waah cry cry cry. Fact is whenever we're in that district we STILL make the playoffs. More than you can say.

[chapfootball123]

Not trying to talk trash: just interested, how did Leander do last year? I didn't really get to pay that much attention to them. They are usually a pretty athletic team.

[D-5]

Well with all the returners that CP has, it should make it even sweeter and even harder for you to swallow when G-town puts the beat down on you guys. Face it CP is just not that good year in and year out not at that point.

[twolf5]

Well with all the returners that CP has, it should make it even sweeter and even harder for you to swallow when G-town puts the beat down on you guys. Face it CP is just not that good year in and year out not at that point.

Oh come on man. You know if this jab was coming from Leander I could totally respect it. But from Georgetown? Wasn't last year the first time you've EVER made the playoffs in our district? Just wondering.

[twolf5]

Your district is sooooooooooooo tough waah waah waah cry cry cry. Fact is whenever we're in that district we STILL make the playoffs. More than you can say.

Second time you've said this. When in the world has Westlake ever been in our district? You smokin some Wlake loco weed? :outlaw

[bowiedawgs01]

Just a fact check for you. Bowie lost to Vista Ridge who didn't win a single district game in our "same as yours" district last year. They were smoked by all 7 teams they played in our district after beating Bowie.

So many people comment on that game, yet nobody but myself actually saw it. I'm not going to go over what happened again. Bowie lost that game. They were not beaten. The very next week they fixed the mistakes and dominated Round Rock on the road.

[twolf5]

So many people comment on that game, yet nobody but myself actually saw it. I'm not going to go over what happened again. Bowie lost that game. They were not beaten. The very next week they fixed the mistakes and dominated Round Rock on the road.

Actually we did see the game. You had one great runningback/skill guy and he's special, but generally you did not have the stuff to compete in 16-5A. That's just my opinion. We also pummeled Round Rock 28-7 holding them to under 100 yards offense.

[MHSfootball]

16-5a>25-5a


nuff' said.

[knowitall mom]

Part of it is a "Diss" on the Bowie Bulldogs, T-wolf seems to think that district is sooo much tougher than ours, i'll put Westlake ,Bowie, Pflugerville and Austin High.against their top anytime,especially Cedar Park.

Just the Facts:D

25-5A bragging rights

1st place BOWIE 38 - 2nd place ROUND ROCK 21
1st place PFLUGERVILLE 33 - 2nd place ROUND ROCK 20

16-5A bragging rights

7th place WESTWOOD 34 - 4th place AUSTIN HIGH 31
1st place STONY POINT 33 - 5th place CONNALLY 17
3rd place GEORGETOWN 26 - 6th place ANDERSON 7
6th place LEANDER 24 - 1st place PFLUGERVILLE 17
8th place VISTA RIDGE 30 - 1st place BOWIE 28
8th place VISTA RIDGE 47 - 5th place CONNALLY 22
4th place CEDAR PARK 31 - 1st place WESTLAKE 21

[twolf5]

Just the Facts:D

25-5A bragging rights

1st place BOWIE 38 - 2nd place ROUND ROCK 21
1st place PFLUGERVILLE 33 - 2nd place ROUND ROCK 20

16-5A bragging rights

7th place WESTWOOD 34 - 4th place AUSTIN HIGH 31
1st place STONY POINT 33 - 5th place CONNALLY 17
3rd place GEORGETOWN 26 - 6th place ANDERSON 7
6th place LEANDER 24 - 1st place PFLUGERVILLE 17
8th place VISTA RIDGE 30 - 1st place BOWIE 28
8th place VISTA RIDGE 47 - 5th place CONNALLY 22
4th place CEDAR PARK 31 - 1st place WESTLAKE 21


Nice job! Facts are a wonderful antidote for fiction.

[aftermath]

Funny how Twolf says that our teams couldn't compete in their district when the cold reality is that Cedar Park can't compete in their district.You guys squeeked into playoffs last year, you are a mid-pack program at best, always disappointing your fans. But you are destined to remain that way,no continuity in the program,due to the transient nature of the neighborhood. Nobody stays there forever,so nobody demands excellence,people become successful and move away.You will have an occasional good game or good year,but the only folks who care about the program are the current active parents.Accept your progams fate,you are a starter neighborhood,never have had history,never will.

[twolf5]

Funny how Twolf says that our teams couldn't compete in their district when the cold reality is that Cedar Park can't compete in their district.You guys squeeked into playoffs last year, you are a mid-pack program at best, always disappointing your fans. But you are destined to remain that way,no continuity in the program,due to the transient nature of the neighborhood. Nobody stays there forever,so nobody demands excellence,people become successful and move away.You will have an occasional good game or good year,but the only folks who care about the program are the current active parents.Accept your progams fate,you are a starter neighborhood,never have had history,never will.


Generally I don't dissagree with you believe it or not. Being in a district that has opened two more schools in the past year, one of which is taking at least 1/3 of our school population and support base causeing us to be 4A next year as it looks today.

On the other hand, we have a great team coming up. We will probably beat Westlake again, and frankly, with all you said above, I just have to believe that's not gonna feel good on Saturday morning after the game. ;)

[aftermath]

If you beat Westlake, I'm happy that we can make your season.I stiil feel that you guys will never get better unless you concentrate on the big picture,your district and beyond.Westlake lost all of their pre-season games last year,but they learned from the losses and put together a pretty good district and playoff run. With a new staff they may drop a couple early, they may not,but this I will promise you,when the dust clears they will make a better run at the state title than CP. Thats what they do,everyone in the state knows Westlake, most people outside of austin don't even know where cedar park is.

[twolf5]

If you beat Westlake, I'm happy that we can make your season.I stiil feel that you guys will never get better unless you concentrate on the big picture,your district and beyond.Westlake lost all of their pre-season games last year,but they learned from the losses and put together a pretty good district and playoff run. With a new staff they may drop a couple early, they may not,but this I will promise you,when the dust clears they will make a better run at the state title than CP. Thats what they do,everyone in the state knows Westlake, most people outside of austin don't even know where cedar park is.


We love playing Westlake. You are one of the greatest programs in Texas high school football history. It will be a great game between two good teams. Then we'll both move on.

Feel better? :notworthy

[corycone33]

Twolf is right. Westlake does have an easier road. You have to take that into consideration.Hell temple was 5-6 last yr. They could make a run deep into region 4. It will be interesting to see how our front does against cedar parks o-line. It might be ugly. How can you compare a CP program to a westlake program that has been around so much longer. I see Cedar park as an up an coming program. They will be alright. Like anything good it takes time.

[D-5]

Oh come on man. You know if this jab was coming from Leander I could totally respect it. But from Georgetown? Wasn't last year the first time you've EVER made the playoffs in our district? Just wondering.

Yes in this district.

[bowiedawgs01]

Actually we did see the game. You had one great runningback/skill guy and he's special, but generally you did not have the stuff to compete in 16-5A. That's just my opinion. We also pummeled Round Rock 28-7 holding them to under 100 yards offense.

:rolleyes:

[Hammeroftruth]

Bla bla bla....all this started with a question that I'm guessing Westlake cannot answer so they changed the subject to "history". Someone from westlake believes they will be better than Cedar Park this year. I simply asked "why"? Don't give me your great history lesson, hell Cedar Park is only 10 years old in a multi school district who won't even be 5A next year. Y'all should beat our pants off!

So, quit all the history lessons and answer the simple question. Why do you think Westlake is better than Cedar Park this year? For what it's worth, here's my top 10 and I think I've explained why.....

1: Stony Point - 3200 kids, great athletes and coaching, and now they believe
2: Copperas Cove - great athletes every year, great coaching every year, great tradition of success.
3: Cedar Park - big, deep, experienced, very physical, and yes the QB situation will decide how good wolves will be
4: Pflugerville (Dillon) - too much speed for 25-5A & region 4
5: Leander - they will fight back this year, they don't quit
6: Round Rock - great skill players and very good coaching
7: Westlake - Will always be good, new coach will bring new energy and focus
8: Bowie - I'll go with this one vs. Austin High because they do have great skill players.
9: Georgetown - again, big school, one horse town
10. Temple - How can you not be in the top 10 with a top 5 back in the nation?
I pretty much agree with this, except for Temple. Seastrunk is a great runningback, but Temple just doesn't have the coaching or desire to win. You can't win with a one-man show.

[corycone33]

I pretty much agree with this, except for Temple. Seastrunk is a great runningback, but Temple just doesn't have the coaching or desire to win. You can't win with a one-man show.

wouldn't expect anything less from a cove supporter. Temple will be just fine.They have more than Seastrunk

[jgmike101]

I'm excited to see bowie next year who do they have returning

Also who does Leander have coming back next year

[bowiedawgs01]

Bowie returns a couple playmakers from last year. WR DeAndre Perry and RB Brelyn Sorrells. RB/LB/S Sheldon Catley is also a good player.

[SPTiger09]

Funny thing here is whoever wins will go north to the DFW and get sent packing south as the loser. SP did a tremendous job last season, but still fell short. I say 5 more years before this region can really start to hang with the elite programs in DFW or Houston.

Now, I can't believe we let a comment like this go unmentioned cen-tex people! Shame on all of you! I think that DFW teams do produce, but are overhyped as far as level of competition. You consistently see the same teams dominating the districts every year. And when we played Allen, I'd like to think we took them to the wire. Considering that every one of our district games was a fight to the finish and we fought with Allen to the bitter end, then doesn't it kinda make sense that any team in our district (withholding Vista and Westwood) could hang with if not beat any team Dallas could throw at us? Methinks the "Any Given Sunday" rule applies here.

[Mr. Rod]

Now, I can't believe we let a comment like this go unmentioned cen-tex people! Shame on all of you! I think that DFW teams do produce, but are overhyped as far as level of competition. You consistently see the same teams dominating the districts every year. And when we played Allen, I'd like to think we took them to the wire. Considering that every one of our district games was a fight to the finish and we fought with Allen to the bitter end, then doesn't it kinda make sense that any team in our district (withholding Vista and Westwood) could hang with if not beat any team Dallas could throw at us? Methinks the "Any Given Sunday" rule applies here.

I agree with you there. I saw allen in the state finals in person. I was not impressed. I expected so much more out of them, the run game sucked, they were just a real let down for me. Eventhough they won, i was expecting a bigger win than the one they got.

[STPFootball2011]

Now, I can't believe we let a comment like this go unmentioned cen-tex people! Shame on all of you! I think that DFW teams do produce, but are overhyped as far as level of competition. You consistently see the same teams dominating the districts every year. And when we played Allen, I'd like to think we took them to the wire. Considering that every one of our district games was a fight to the finish and we fought with Allen to the bitter end, then doesn't it kinda make sense that any team in our district (withholding Vista and Westwood) could hang with if not beat any team Dallas could throw at us? Methinks the "Any Given Sunday" rule applies here.
i agree that centex teams have no problem hanging with Dallas teams. anybody who went to that SP -Allen game knows that SP was the better team it just didnt show up on the scoreboard. I do think though that Dallas will produce more good teams every year because of the larger areas and larger schools. they may be able to produce 5-6 really good teams a year while Cen-Tex may only be able to get 1-3 teams deep into the playoffs each year

[chapfootball123]

i agree that centex teams have no problem hanging with Dallas teams. anybody who went to that SP -Allen game knows that SP was the better team it just didnt show up on the scoreboard. I do think though that Dallas will produce more good teams every year because of the larger areas and larger schools. they may be able to produce 5-6 really good teams a year while Cen-Tex may only be able to get 1-3 teams deep into the playoffs each year

I agree, if you have a 5,000 student talent pool to choose from then you should be able to have have more competitive teams, as opposed to the 2,500 students that you see out of most austin and san antonio area high school teams.

[jgmike101]

I agree, if you have a 5,000 student talent pool to choose from then you should be able to have have more competitive teams, as opposed to the 2,500 students that you see out of most austin and san antonio area high school teams.

That's why you bring in a great coaching staff like the ones at Leander, Westlake, SP, and LT

[jgmike101]

I guess no one else wants to add to the thread then it's time to let it die but before I do here's my top ten


1. Stony Point (This team is starting to become elite but two seasons isn't enough, whoever the QB is is going to have some great targets)

2. Cedar Park (This team will challenge Stony Point for the District title next year so mark you calendars)

3. Copperas Cove ( 1 2 and 3 are interchangable cove seems to rebuild every year escpecially on the Offensive line one of the more talented units in the state year in and year out)

4. Pflugerville (Speed, Talent, Size this school just sucks that city dry of all of it, don't be suprised if they make a run next year)

5. Westlake (Any time you bring back a starting QB and a stout D your primed for success just ask SP)

6. Leander ( This team was VERY young last year, they bring back an entire backfield and i think some O-Line)

7. Georgetown (Three great WR's this team will score points)

8. Bowie ( One great WR and two great RB;s this team will also score points)

9. Round Rock ( Return two powerful backs and an athletic QB this team can make some noise)

10. Temple ( They have the best RB in the state but they will prove that they are more than just him )

[STPFootball2011]

I guess no one else wants to add to the thread then it's time to let it die but before I do here's my top ten


1. Stony Point (This team is starting to become elite but two seasons isn't enough, whoever the QB is is going to have some great targets)

2. Cedar Park (This team will challenge Stony Point for the District title next year so mark you calendars)

3. Copperas Cove ( 1 2 and 3 are interchangable cove seems to rebuild every year escpecially on the Offensive line one of the more talented units in the state year in and year out)

4. Pflugerville (Speed, Talent, Size this school just sucks that city dry of all of it, don't be suprised if they make a run next year)

5. Westlake (Any time you bring back a starting QB and a stout D your primed for success just ask SP)

6. Leander ( This team was VERY young last year, they bring back an entire backfield and i think some O-Line)

7. Georgetown (Three great WR's this team will score points)

8. Bowie ( One great WR and two great RB;s this team will also score points)

9. Round Rock ( Return two powerful backs and an athletic QB this team can make some noise)

10. Temple ( They have the best RB in the state but they will prove that they are more than just him )
QB at SP gonna probably be the backup from the varsity last year Aaryn Sharp. dude is legit in terms of running and the arm just need to make sure he knows the offense and can be accurate. if not watch out for JR Gus Barrera who led the undefeated JV A last year. really accurate and makes good desicions and can run a little himself.

no doubt pflugerville has a bunch of talent right now but might not be the case for much longer. Hendrickson has made big strides in all there sports the past year or so and those athletes had to come from somewhere. im not saying wont be good like they are now in the future but look for the talent pool to be a bit more balanced down in Pville

also to any of the G-town guys out there, what the QB situation look like up there? i know you have a crapload of good recievers but whose gonna get them the ball?

[SP Tiger Backer]

QB at SP gonna probably be the backup from the varsity last year Aaryn Sharp. dude is legit in terms of running and the arm just need to make sure he knows the offense and can be accurate. if not watch out for JR Gus Barrera who led the undefeated JV A last year. really accurate and makes good desicions and can run a little himself.

no doubt pflugerville has a bunch of talent right now but might not be the case for much longer. Hendrickson has made big strides in all there sports the past year or so and those athletes had to come from somewhere. im not saying wont be good like they are now in the future but look for the talent pool to be a bit more balanced down in Pville

also to any of the G-town guys out there, what the QB situation look like up there? i know you have a crapload of good recievers but whose gonna get them the ball?

Watching Sharp last year I agree that he can run. It also appeared that he had a cannon for an arm. With more play time and SP coaching I think he will fine tune the accuracy and be able to stay cool and make good decisions.

Don't know anything about Gus B. But from what you said he sounds like another Nyk McKissic. That would be a great blessing.

[bowiedawgs01]

I've heard good things about Bowie's QB next year. His name is Kameron Keel. Supposed to be about 6'1-6'2 and have a strong arm. He'll be a Junior next year. I hope he's accurate. I'd love to see Perry catching the deep ball from someone with an accurate cannon for an arm.

[chapfan2008]

I've heard good things about Bowie's QB next year. His name is Kameron Keel. Supposed to be about 6'1-6'2 and have a strong arm. He'll be a Junior next year. I hope he's accurate. I'd love to see Perry catching the deep ball from someone with an accurate cannon for an arm.

Talk about another team.

[bowiedawgs01]

What?

[chap fan]

Now, I can't believe we let a comment like this go unmentioned cen-tex people! Shame on all of you! I think that DFW teams do produce, but are overhyped as far as level of competition. You consistently see the same teams dominating the districts every year. And when we played Allen, I'd like to think we took them to the wire. Considering that every one of our district games was a fight to the finish and we fought with Allen to the bitter end, then doesn't it kinda make sense that any team in our district (withholding Vista and Westwood) could hang with if not beat any team Dallas could throw at us? Methinks the "Any Given Sunday" rule applies here.

I think our 2006 state title game with the undefeatable (at the time) SLC was a lot the same. I don't think that their fans would argue that we weren't up to that level of competition. We certainly hung with them.

[STPFootball2011]

Watching Sharp last year I agree that he can run. It also appeared that he had a cannon for an arm. With more play time and SP coaching I think he will fine tune the accuracy and be able to stay cool and make good decisions.

Don't know anything about Gus B. But from what you said he sounds like another Nyk McKissic. That would be a great blessing.
thats actually a pretty good comparison. the only thing holding him back is that he's only like 5 9 or 5 10 and not very big. guess its a good thing when you have two really good QBs for the next two years

[txhsfootball]

Most schools would take either one of them(Barrera or Sharp) as their Q. They both have great potential. IMHO, I'm betting the Q position will come down between Barrera and the freshman Beasley. I am betting Sharp will move to another position and still be a huge part of their offense. They have so many weapons, it is a good problem to have.

thats actually a pretty good comparison. the only thing holding him back is that he's only like 5 9 or 5 10 and not very big. guess its a good thing when you have two really good QBs for the next two years

[STPFootball2011]

Most schools would take either one of them(Barrera or Sharp) as their Q. They both have great potential. IMHO, I'm betting the Q position will come down between Barrera and the freshman Beasley. I am betting Sharp will move to another position and still be a huge part of their offense. They have so many weapons, it is a good problem to have.
beasley doesnt play Q anymore they moved him. he'll probably be on varsity next year but i dont know what position

[txhsfootball]

beasley doesnt play Q anymore they moved him. he'll probably be on varsity next year but i dont know what position


From what I have heard he only moved positions for the playoffs last year and will be moved right back to compete for the Q position when baseball is over. There is no doubt he will be on varsity next year and start. Might not end up being the Q(but he will be given a shot at it) but he will start somewhere. But like I said they have a problem that most schools would love to have. 3 guys at the Q position that could start at most schools. And if I am wrong and Sharp wins the Q spot Stony Point is still in great hands, the kid is big and strong. Those 3 young men are all great athletes with very high potential.

Barrera- Very smart, doesn't make mistakes. Throws a great ball and faster than most people think. Lacks size. Kid is a winner, led an undefeated JV team. I was very impressed watching him last year.

Beasley- The fastest and most athletic of the 3 (legit 4.5 40 as a freshman). He hit holes and just left people(it was freshman but wow)The kids upside is through the roof. Has really good size for his age as well. Very smart kid with a great arm. Needs to work on throwing mechanics. The kid just looked tough as nails on the field.

Sharp- Big, strong and can run through people, very athletic as well. From what I saw he has a great arm but needs to work on mechanics as well. Has experience on the varsity level already.

Take your pick..... They all would be great picks.....

All of Tiger nation must be really excited about the future.

[SP Tiger Backer]

From what I have heard he only moved positions for the playoffs last year and will be moved right back to compete for the Q position when baseball is over. There is no doubt he will be on varsity next year and start. Might not end up being the Q(but he will be given a shot at it) but he will start somewhere. But like I said they have a problem that most schools would love to have. 3 guys at the Q position that could start at most schools. And if I am wrong and Sharp wins the Q spot Stony Point is still in great hands, the kid is big and strong. Those 3 young men are all great athletes with very high potential.

Barrera- Very smart, doesn't make mistakes. Throws a great ball and faster than most people think. Lacks size. Kid is a winner, led an undefeated JV team. I was very impressed watching him last year.

Beasley- The fastest and most athletic of the 3 (legit 4.5 40 as a freshman). He hit holes and just left people(it was freshman but wow)The kids upside is through the roof. Has really good size for his age as well. Very smart kid with a great arm. Needs to work on throwing mechanics. The kid just looked tough as nails on the field.

Sharp- Big, strong and can run through people, very athletic as well. From what I saw he has a great arm but needs to work on mechanics as well. Has experience on the varsity level already.

Take your pick..... They all would be great picks.....

All of Tiger nation must be really excited about the future.

Thanks for your analysis. I have only seen Sharp play as a backup last year when the games were already in the bag. You are right, he does run through people.

[sdscove]

I've seen some people commenting that Cove is not in the Austin area. Maybe that's true to a point, but then where should Cove be placed? It's not in the Waco area (where there are no AAAAA schools). Honestly, I think Austin people have sour grapes toward Cove football. Cove goes further and deeper in the playoffs than any Austin area AAAAA program and does it consistently (Yes, Cedar Park won like 35 - 7 several years ago). But if it makes some people happy, say that Cove is not a part of the Austin area. It doesn't change that on any given Friday night, if Cove and an Austin area school were to play, Cove would probably win.

I would love to see Cove go south into Austin/RR/Georgetown/Leander. If they had stayed AAAA, and they were close to doing so, it probably would have happened. Cove and Lake Travis would get some attention.

I can say this. Cove was not expected to make it to the state semi-finals in 2008. It was supposed to be a rebuilding year. So much for that. 2009 should be promising. A few key guys are graduating, but Cove has lots of weapons.

[twolf5]

I've seen some people commenting that Cove is not in the Austin area. Maybe that's true to a point, but then where should Cove be placed? It's not in the Waco area (where there are no AAAAA schools). Honestly, I think Austin people have sour grapes toward Cove football. Cove goes further and deeper in the playoffs than any Austin area AAAAA program and does it consistently (Yes, Cedar Park won like 35 - 7 several years ago). But if it makes some people happy, say that Cove is not a part of the Austin area. It doesn't change that on any given Friday night, if Cove and an Austin area school were to play, Cove would probably win.

I would love to see Cove go south into Austin/RR/Georgetown/Leander. If they had stayed AAAA, and they were close to doing so, it probably would have happened. Cove and Lake Travis would get some attention.

I can say this. Cove was not expected to make it to the state semi-finals in 2008. It was supposed to be a rebuilding year. So much for that. 2009 should be promising. A few key guys are graduating, but Cove has lots of weapons.

Cove is a grrrrrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaatttt ttt program. They'd kick the dog out of most teams in Centex year in and yeaer out. You'll get no arguement from most people about that!

[bowiedawgs01]

He set up a straw man so he could knock it down. Don't lump all "Austin area" folks into the camp that doesn't think Cove should be grouped with us.

I like Cove. Like I said, my sister coached bball there for 2 years. I met a lot of great girls and their parents during those 2 years. I'll always follow Cove because of that.

[chapfootball123]

Bowie returns a couple playmakers from last year. WR DeAndre Perry and RB Brelyn Sorrells. RB/LB/S Sheldon Catley is also a good player.

Do ya'll like DeAndre Perry over there at Bowie? When we played against ya'll and when i watched ya'll play, he looked athletic in warm-ups (although incredibly disproportionate. Short little legs on that incredibly long torso.) but when it came to game time all he did was whine and complain to the referees. There were at least three times where he was appealing to the official while the ball was still in the air. Seems like a whiny punk to me... not very impressive as a competitor.

[chapfan2008]

Good lord are you joking?

DeAndre Perry is a STUD. Very underrated, don't really know why people call him slow either.

[Rangerus]

TWolf5 -

You want to know the funniest thing about this entire conversation? Cedar Park has a countdown clock on their website to the Westlake game. I bet there aren't ten people in Westlake that even know that Cedar Park is the first game of the season. And that pretty much sums up the status of the two programs...::)

Na. That looks like a countdown for the "first game" of a season the folks in CP expect to be a great one......that game just happens to be vs. the Chaps. If Temple was our first game it would be a countdown clock to Temple, or Lake Travis etc.

Hey come to the game, it should be a great one and I'd guess it will be packed!


157 days, 15 hours, 16 minutes, 52 seconds till opening kickoff vs westlake :laugh:laugh

[corycone33]

Do ya'll like DeAndre Perry over there at Bowie? When we played against ya'll and when i watched ya'll play, he looked athletic in warm-ups (although incredibly disproportionate. Short little legs on that incredibly long torso.) but when it came to game time all he did was whine and complain to the referees. There were at least three times where he was appealing to the official while the ball was still in the air. Seems like a whiny punk to me... not very impressive as a competitor.
That is funny that you mention that. Bowie was playing in the 7on7 tournament over the summer in temple. All he did was whine the whole time. He actually got thrown out of the game for cussing at the refs and trying to fight the opponent

[chapfootball123]

Good lord are you joking?

DeAndre Perry is a STUD. Very underrated, don't really know why people call him slow either.

They call him slow because he is....

[chapfootball123]

That is funny that you mention that. Bowie was playing in the 7on7 tournament over the summer in temple. All he did was whine the whole time. He actually got thrown out of the game for cussing at the refs and trying to fight the opponent

I'm telling you!!! I don't make this stuff up.... just wanted a bowie fans perspective on how they feel about deandre.

[bowiedawgs01]

He's not slow. He's not blazing fast either. He's a possession receiver that relies on his size and hands. His sophomore year he would run slants and hitches, shrug the defender off and run upfield for awhile.

Last year he showed a bit more speed, burning a few teams deep for TDs on Go routes.

I have no idea about his attitude. I've never seen him complain or whine, personally, but it's possible. I chatted with him through PM a few times a couple months ago on another site and he seemed pretty cool.

[chapfootball123]

He's not slow. He's not blazing fast either. He's a possession receiver that relies on his size and hands. His sophomore year he would run slants and hitches, shrug the defender off and run upfield for awhile.

Last year he showed a bit more speed, burning a few teams deep for TDs on Go routes.

I have no idea about his attitude. I've never seen him complain or whine, personally, but it's possible. I chatted with him through PM a few times a couple months ago on another site and he seemed pretty cool.

Agreed.

[bowiedawgs01]

But please...PLEASE...come up and play bump-n-run on him. Please do it. He's not fast, right? Nothing to worry about...



:D

[MHSfootball]

Im lookin' forward to the 2009 season all teams should be ready (16-5) for a good competitive season. Hell I bet Vista will even win a game.

[knowitall mom]

Im lookin' forward to the 2009 season all teams should be ready (16-5) for a good competitive season. Hell I bet Vista will even win a game.


:confused: Who can vista beat next year? after looking at their schedule, I think their best chance will be...........McNeil?

[MHSfootball]

:confused: Who can vista beat next year? after looking at their schedule, I think their best chance will be...........McNeil?

It could be anyone it's just how this district is.

[knowitall mom]

It could be anyone it's just how this district is.


I agree....except for Stony, VR cannot beat Stony no matter what.

[MHSfootball]

I agree....except for Stony, VR cannot beat Stony no matter what.
This is true. AS long as the Tigers do what they need to do to win.

[SP Tiger Backer]

This is true. AS long as the Tigers do what they need to do to win.

Last year VR had a lot of injuries. All teams, including SP, would have been challenged with that many starters out.

[platnmram]

Last year VR had a lot of injuries. All teams, including SP, would have been challenged with that many starters out.


Which starters were hurt? Would it have made that much difference? The 2nd team for SP played the 2nd half of that game.

[SP Tiger Backer]

Which starters were hurt? Would it have made that much difference? The 2nd team for SP played the 2nd half of that game.

I am depending on second hand information from last season and that was months ago. Hopefully someone can support me or prove me wrong. Yes SP did play a lot of 2nd team after the game was out of reach.

[CCParent]

QB and RB were hurt. We played VR in the Hurricane week and they were tough then, the week after we played SP, and I thought they played alot better on offense than SP did.

[RRSP1]

Which starters were hurt? Would it have made that much difference? The 2nd team for SP played the 2nd half of that game.

Excerpt from the SP coach's report after the VR game: "Our Varsity dominated an undermanned Vista Ridge group 56-17. They were without their QB, LB, RB, and DB -- all very good players...."

[platnmram]

Excerpt from the SP coach's report after the VR game: "Our Varsity dominated an undermanned Vista Ridge group 56-17. They were without their QB, LB, RB, and DB -- all very good players...."

So no good backups? How did the JV and Fresh teams do? How many games did Varsity win?

[ETXLion]

Isn't Copperas Cove in Waco. Nowhere near Austin, right?

Cedar Park D needs to recruit from the Girls Basketball Team. They know how to hit.

That's the truth. Those young ladies know their way around the free weights

[RRSP1]

So no good backups? How did the JV and Fresh teams do? How many games did Varsity win?

Well, the lack of depth at VR was a discussion since the realignment came out over a year ago, so no surprise there.

For the varsity records, our very own 5atexasfootball.com has all the details.

I don't know the VR subvarsity records, but the Stony Point JV-A, JV-B, and Fr-A teams all won by a combined score of 130-6. The Vista Ridge Fr-B team had to forfeit due to a lack of players.

[STPFootball2011]

when we played VR there starting QB,RB,and D1 CB all didnt play. our jvs won 48-0 and 30-6. so they have no talent comig up whatever talent they had last year is gone. its gonna be a long year for vista next year

[MHSfootball]

Vista's Freshman A team didn't win a district game. But they were hurt last year by injury. I mean they beat a god bowie team. Which was before they were injured so...:confused:

[platnmram]

when we played VR there starting QB,RB,and D1 CB all didnt play. our jvs won 48-0 and 30-6. so they have no talent comig up whatever talent they had last year is gone. its gonna be a long year for vista next year

That's the point I was trying to make.

[country club]

You guy's need to buy a clue. VR is in it's 2nd year as a 5A HS. There growth curve is straight up. Are they the weak sister? Yes, but not for long. New Coach, new blood and lot's of BLUE SKY. Go ahead and talk trash and kick em while they're down. They will be a force to deal with in the future.

[platnmram]

You guy's need to buy a clue. VR is in it's 2nd year as a 5A HS. There growth curve is straight up. Are they the weak sister? Yes, but not for long. New Coach, new blood and lot's of BLUE SKY. Go ahead and talk trash and kick em while they're down. They will be a force to deal with in the future.

No, you need to call a life line. No Jv, no fresh, where is the talent going to come from.

[STPFootball2011]

You guy's need to buy a clue. VR is in it's 2nd year as a 5A HS. There growth curve is straight up. Are they the weak sister? Yes, but not for long. New Coach, new blood and lot's of BLUE SKY. Go ahead and talk trash and kick em while they're down. They will be a force to deal with in the future.
blue skies wont happen if there isnt any talent. besides theyll probably go back to 4a after next year because of the new leander schools

[country club]

blue skies wont happen if there isnt any talent. besides theyll probably go back to 4a after next year because of the new leander schools


I don't beleive VR will go 4A, but there is a good chance Leander HS will. Rodney didn't leave AHS to coach a sub par program. They will certainly be competitive. As I stated in my earlier post, not this year and maybe not next year, but they will be a force to deal with. That is a young, growing community. Seems like yesterday SP HS were the whippin boys.

[STPFootball2011]

I don't beleive VR will go 4A, but there is a good chance Leander HS will. Rodney didn't leave AHS to coach a sub par program. They will certainly be competitive. As I stated in my earlier post, not this year and maybe not next year, but they will be a force to deal with. That is a young, growing community. Seems like yesterday SP HS were the whippin boys.
true but SP has always had some sort of talent, just the coaches had no idea wha they were doing. VR on the other hand has nothing in the system at least right now and judging as they bairly made it to 5a this year and theres two high schools opening in 10' they'll probably go down to 4a where they can compete

[MHSfootball]

Give it time by the 2011 season they might be competitive. Considering they stay 5a. But by the 2011 season mark my word they will be good.

[Rangerus]

The Rangers open with Bowie, Midway, Connally. I think they will be 3-0 going into district play. (sorry Bowiedawgs01, they beat y'all last year and Vincent has seen the 'Dogs before.)

[chapfootball123]

Bowie won't lose to VR again. Last year was a fluke. As much as it pains me to say....

[bowiedawgs01]

Sure Vincent has seen the dawgs before...and lost 2 straight years with better talent than he'll have at VR.

I won't make any guarantees yet, but you can bet Bowie won't come in overconfident like last year. And we get VR at home this year.

[bowiedawgs01]

I don't think VR will beat Connally either, by the way.

[twolf5]

I don't think VR will beat Connally either, by the way.

I don't think VR will beat Bowie this year, or connally either for that matter. Their talent level coming back on varsity, and their sub varsity from last year feeding 09 varsity, is pretty weak. They are in much better hands for the long term however with the new coaching staff and the talent will return.

[jgmike101]

They won't beat Midway either they're a great 4A team

[STPFootball2011]

if vista wins a game this year i will be pretty surprised

[Rangerus]

did I say VR would be 3-0 entering district, I'm sorry that must have been a typo. I meant 0-3. :laugh:laugh

I agree with you Bowiedawgs01, there won't be the "surprise" factor this year and it's a home game for the Dogs. Midway dominated them last year, but I don't know what they have coming back. I also don't know much about what Connally will have next either. But I bet Vincent has the Rangers coached up before long.

[bowiedawgs01]

I couldn't tell you off the top of my head, but I remember looking at the Connally roster when Bowie was playing them and thinking, "Dang...they're going to return a lot of talent and be pretty good next year!"

[STPFootball2011]

I couldn't tell you off the top of my head, but I remember looking at the Connally roster when Bowie was playing them and thinking, "Dang...they're going to return a lot of talent and be pretty good next year!"
well if you find out please let me know`since we play them week 1:p

[Wrecking Crew 12]

My rundown on Pville:

Offense - Should be very good, everyone returning except 2 Olineman I think it is. We return all 3 of are solid soph. RB's, Storm Woods could win the district title for rushing yards. Julian Ward, consistent runner we can count on, avg about 4-6 yds a carry would be my guess. Sammy flowers, hes probably the least used but a good changeup, needs to work on holding on to the ball better.
WR's... Well at Pville they mine as well be non-existant.

Defense - this is where were all scared, kinda like our offense last year, we lost most of the starters including one of the best DL in the country Alex Okafor. Dline will probably be our best group on defense. Undersized but very strong and fast(4.6) DE SaVon Thomas will lead that group. Linebackers will be solid, patrick maxwell will lead that group with 2 other juniors, maxwell is a senior. And DB's, like always, are are weakest link, probably led by senior justin sandoval, do have a good junior safety, who could be really good if he works on his feet movement. But man can he hit some kids, can't place his first name right now for some reason but his last name is Matlock.

My prediction:
We share district title with Westlake.
We lose to Westlake but they lose to Bowie.

[bowiedawgs01]

My prediction:
We share district title with Westlake.
We lose to Westlake but they lose to Bowie.

So you're saying you lose to WL, but beat Bowie. And Bowie beats WL. You expect Bowie to lose some other game along the way in order for it not to be another 3-way tie?

[CCParent]

well if you find out please let me know`since we play them week 1:p
We're flying under the radar this year. We're returning 9 starters on defense and 5 on offense including QB and RB and the 2nd fastest 100m sprinter in centex at receiver. Our track team is doing well right now(who says we're slow compared to P-Ville).:cool:

[bowiedawgs01]

Yeah, that QB...he's alright I guess.


:D

[CCParent]

Hey Dawg, game has been re-scheduled to 3:30 tomorrow@ Burger.

[RRSP1]

We're flying under the radar this year. We're returning 9 starters on defense and 5 on offense including QB and RB and the 2nd fastest 100m sprinter in centex at receiver. Our track team is doing well right now(who says we're slow compared to P-Ville).:cool:

No kidding about your track team. I was just reading the Statesman (print edition, not online), and they printed a table with all of the centex top track times/distances - Connally is way up there.

[CCParent]

Texas Relays were announced just minutes ago. Connally had several invitees boys and girls. All three P-Ville schools were represented in the relays 4x100, 4x200, and 4x400.:eek:

[MHSfootball]

Texas Relays were announced just minutes ago. Connally had several invitees boys and girls. All three P-Ville schools were represented in the relays 4x100, 4x200, and 4x400.:eek:
Link?

[Wrecking Crew 12]

So you're saying you lose to WL, but beat Bowie. And Bowie beats WL. You expect Bowie to lose some other game along the way in order for it not to be another 3-way tie?

Yes sir

[BleedBurntOrange]

The Rangers open with Bowie, Midway, Connally. I think they will be 3-0 going into district play. (sorry Bowiedawgs01, they beat y'all last year and Vincent has seen the 'Dogs before.)


I don't know how many games the Rangers will win this next year, but I will tell you that they will beat someone they were not supposed to beat. You can count on it.

It will not be long, and Vista Ridge will be in the mix every year. You can say all you want about their JV and 9th teams being bad, but Coach Vincent will build them up, get the numbers up, and they will win there. It probably won't be next year, or maybe even the one after that, but they will win.

I think the Stony Point analogy is a good one. It was not that long ago, they were clocking in at 1-9 and 0-10 seasons and were 0-7 in district. Now they are a power.

Vista Ridge will be in the playoffs within 3 years.

[bowiedawgs01]

I do think VR can be built up. Playoffs? Not sure yet. SP, Leander, RR, CP and GT are a tough Top 5 to crack, and VR will have to beat 2 of those teams out to make the Playoffs. WW and McNeil can have good years too. Not to mention Cedar Park building a new HS to siphon talent away.

It'll be interesting to see what Vincent can do there.

[MHSfootball]

I do think VR can be built up. Playoffs? Not sure yet. SP, Leander, RR, CP and GT are a tough Top 5 to crack, and VR will have to beat 2 of those teams out to make the Playoffs. WW and McNeil can have good years too. Not to mention Cedar Park building a new HS to siphon talent away.

It'll be interesting to see what Vincent can do there.


In 16-5a, you dont bring it you dont win. Anyone can beat anyone.