Ex Junior RB from Florida to Prosper

[BigFanSLC]

Noel Devine will be moving to 2A Prosper, north of Frisco, and be adopted by Deion Sanders.... this guy is amazing and hes only going to be a junior

heres another look at him

http://www.putfile.com/media.php?n=Noel%20Devine%20Hurricane%20Remix%20Lo wRes

[PackAttack2005]

Was this not discussed on an earlier thread?

[KT2000]

http://www.5atexasfootball.com/forum/vB/showthread.php?t=469

[hardknox]

I understand the kid looks good but our people are good too...right? If so whats the big deal, adding one more good back to a state full of good backs.

[Texasfrog]

I understand the kid looks good but our people are good too...right? If so whats the big deal, adding one more good back to a state full of good backs.

I agree 100%. I think Devine will be a superstar if he plays at a 2A school. but, if you throw him in some of the powerhouse 5A districts. He'll be another really good D-1A caliber RB loaded in Districts packed with college level talent and college level RB's.

His going to be good. Just, everyone needs to put things into perspective and lets see how the kid pans out if he ends up in a Texas 5A district.

I find it hard to believe that his any better than about 10 other strong legit D-1A level backs in the Northern part of Texas.

[odessapermian.com]

In other breaking news, American astronaut Neil Armstrong has landed on the Moon. We'll post a link ASAP. :rolleyes:

[KT2000]

2A has seen a player with a similar skill set to Devine before.

Does the name Quan Cosby (Mart) ring a bell? Cosby clocked sub 4.3 forties on campus and at camps going into his senior year. He also benched well over 300 pounds. Not bad for a guy that weighed 185-190. He was rated just behind two fellas named Cedric Benson and Derrick Johnson.

Cosby signed a pro baseball contract out of high school, but has enrolled at the school he originally committed to for football after HS...the University of Texas. Cosby looks to have an impact on Texas' special teams and receiving corps right away this fall. He's 5'11 200 now, and hasn't lost any speed evidently...then again, he's only 21-22 years old.

[NewSherriffInTown]

This is wayyyyyyyyyyy old first of all...


and here is Texasfrog once again being ridiculous with his Texas is sooo great thing.

The best team from another state is probably 15th in Texas..

Best soph in the country will be top 10 in texas...


get outta here with that stuff.


He is the most impressive back I've seen on video especially at that age.


You need to get off this high horse with Texas stuff...


If Texas produced such great talent that is FARRRR superior to the rest of the country...

tell me why can't Texas, A&M, or anyone win any national titles??

Why do the Florida schools win national titles all the time??

I'll take this kid over anyone in Texas.

Just admit it when someone is great.

[raidercheerdad]

In other breaking news, American astronaut Neil Armstrong has landed on the Moon. We'll post a link ASAP. :rolleyes: that goes right along w/ the link of MOJO records -- living in the past! lol

[TheDuke]

I can't believe he went to a 2A school? What a waste of talent! He needs to be at a 5A school! What are you thinking Deon? :rolleyes:

[KT2000]

Being at a smaller school will help keep Devine away from the off the field problems he'd be exposed to in a city like Fort Myers. That's probably why Prime Time would prefer Devine be at a smaller school like Prosper, and away from the big city lights.

[Texasfrog]

This is wayyyyyyyyyyy old first of all...


and here is Texasfrog once again being ridiculous with his Texas is sooo great thing.

The best team from another state is probably 15th in Texas..

Best soph in the country will be top 10 in texas...


get outta here with that stuff.


He is the most impressive back I've seen on video especially at that age.


You need to get off this high horse with Texas stuff...


If Texas produced such great talent that is FARRRR superior to the rest of the country...

tell me why can't Texas, A&M, or anyone win any national titles??

Why do the Florida schools win national titles all the time??

I'll take this kid over anyone in Texas.

Just admit it when someone is great.


I guess I need to teach you a few things about College football. I know running around New York you dont really keep up with alot of college football.

1st and formost there "second team" or Newsheriff or whatever clown name you given yourself. You need to take a look at the Florida Big-3 schools and their "ROSTERS" over the past 20 years and you will see that probably in the neighborhood of 65% to 70% of their 2-Deep rosters were NON-Florida kids.

That means in English that most of the rosters werent Florida kids on the Florida Big-3.

Where as Texas (UT, Tx A&M, Tx Tech) have done it with 95% Texas kids. Major difference. Texas gets raided every year and almost Half (thats 50% for you) of the Texas top blue-chips leave Texas for places like ...
Florida St, Miami, LSU, Oklahoma, Nebraska and ect.

If you go back and look at schools like (Miami) over the last 20 years. I bet they've had about 100 Texas kids on the team over that span their killer. Starting with Jessie Armstead (Dallas Carter) up to the Ot-Reggie Youngblood and Te-Dajleon Farr from last year. Both Prep All-American HS players from Texas that are going to Miami.

Also, I guess if there was so many overwelming hot shot High school RB's in Florida. Why did Univ-Fla sign a Texas "RB" last year ? Kestahn Moore from Mansfield Summit, Tx.

Lets see... Last year for the Florida Big-3..

UF:
RB- Kestahn Moore - Manfield Summit.
WR-David Nelson - Wichita Falls Rider.

Miami:
Te- Dajleon Farr - Houston North Shore.
OT- Reggie Youngblood - Houston Washington

Fla St:

Rb- Russle Ball - Lamarque (Wow, another Tx Rb !!!)
db- Korey Mangum - Lamarque
Db- Clarence Ward - Lamarque.. true Texas kid.

Wow, that 7 Texas kids "THIS SEASON" that signed with the Florida Big-3.


So, I know that little froggie is stuck in your throat with this lesson but anyone that tries to make comicle claims like "look at their college teams" and doesnt even look at the rosters and where the players are from needs a lesson.

Heck, the Florida Big-3 last year didnt even have a Florida kid starting at QB for them. Brock Berlin (Louisiana), Chirs Rix (California) and Chris Leak (NC).

Florida just got a verbal from one of Texas best QB's- Jevon Snead (Stephenville,Tx) and Miami's starter in the near future is going to be Kirby Freeman (Brownwood,Tx).

Last..... What did I say about the Devine kid also "Clown ?" I'm sure his going to be a great back and have great seasons. I dont make opinions on "STREAMLINE VIDEOS" like YOU...

I'm sure his going to be a Texas top 10 RB. I dont get all hyped up over kids pictures and streamline videos and press clipping like you. Unlike you.. I've been around football for along time and have seen tons of Texas RB's that have gone on to the NFL.

Lets see how the kid pans out. If he plays Texas 2A football he'll be a Superstar I have no doubt about it and he'll put up incrediable stats. If he plays in Texas 5A football .. I think he'll find the going alot tougher and the eye popping numbers might not be there like many THINK... Time will tell !!!

Now go put your New Cowboy hat , Cowboy boots and Tin badge on and tell everyone in town that your Wyatt Earp or something and leave High school football discussions to people that know what they are talking about.

[SWTAlumni]

Probably because TEXAS keeps losing running backs like A. Peterson to out of state schools. Most kids like the idea of leaving their home state because its something new. Look at Florida and Florida State's rosters, how many are from Texas?

Who would you rather play for, MAC BROWN or BOB STOOPS? I don't think it's a question about being loyal to your own state because if so then, you may never when a National Championship here.

[Texasfrog]

Also Newsherriff or Wyatt Earp or whatever. I cant stand fools like you that try to put words ino my mouth because you cant read.

I never said that another States best team would be #15 in Texas.

I said I would put the Texas top #15 teams up against any States Champ and feel really good that those Texas #15 teams would play "down for down" with them and it would be a tough game.

Big Difference clown..

PS.. How big is that Tin Badge you bought at Wal-Mart -- NEWSHERRIFF?

[DW@SunshinePreps]

I am sure we all have our biases but Florida football is second to none in terms of talent. Texas and Florida and California are all on equal par. Arguing which state is better is a pointless argument.

The fan support in Texas however is without any doubt on a different level.

Basically what I am getting at is this. If a kid can get the job done in Florida he can absolutely get it done anywhere else. Same holds true for Texas.

[Texasfrog]

I am sure we all have our biases but Florida football is second to none in terms of talent. Texas and Florida and California are all on equal par. Arguing which state is better is a pointless argument.

The fan support in Texas however is without any doubt on a different level.

Basically what I am getting at is this. If a kid can get the job done in Florida he can absolutely get it done anywhere else. Same holds true for Texas.


There is no doubt very solid talent in Florida. I live here now (Miami). I've been to several games of the top teams.

The only argument or debate is #'s. I do think Texas puts out more numbers of D-1A talent and even D-1AA talent over Florida. But, there is no doubt that the Top 100 in Florida dont take a backseat to the Texas top 100.

Probably the biggest difference is the so called "AVERAGE HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL PLAYER." There is 100% no doubt that Texas probably has a 3/1 edge over Florida in those players.

But, if you take a blue-chip out of Florida and put him in Texas or vice-versa. The kid is still going to be a blue-chip no doubt.

But with player Depth. Texas is a clear #1 over Florida.

[DW@SunshinePreps]

Both states and CA as well lose a ton of talent to other schools. Over the past decade or so I have had to sit back and watch all 3 Florida teams not only win championships, but lose championships. For example, I watched Ohio State beat Miami with he likes of Jenkins, Gamble, Bullard, Bishop, Vance, Ross, Salley, etc.... I watched Oklahoma beat Florida State with a few of their best players from Florida including the MVP of the game. I also watched Tommy Frazier lead Nebraska to their win over Florida. So you guys are not the only ones frustrated by having your kids taken from other states. Without the Florida talent on the teams mentioned above, all the Florida schools would have one another championship in my honest opinion.



There is great football played everywhere.

[DW@SunshinePreps]

Keep in mind though, Texas has twice as many D1A programs as Florida. As a result their numbers will ALWAYS be higher. If Florida had 10 D1A programs, it would inflate their numbers to right at the same #.

[Texasfrog]

Both states and CA as well lose a ton of talent to other schools. Over the past decade or so I have had to sit back and watch all 3 Florida teams not only win championships, but lose championships. For example, I watched Ohio State beat Miami with he likes of Jenkins, Gamble, Bullard, Bishop, Vance, Ross, Salley, etc.... I watched Oklahoma beat Florida State with a few of their best players from Florida including the MVP of the game. I also watched Tommy Frazier lead Nebraska to their win over Florida. So you guys are not the only ones frustrated by having your kids taken from other states. Without the Florida talent on the teams mentioned above, all the Florida schools would have one another championship in my honest opinion.



There is great football played everywhere.

There is no doubt.. Texas has lost tons of great talent over the years to National Title and National Title contender teams.

Oklahoma has won several Nat'l Title over the years with a roster of almost half Texas kids. Miami has won a few titles over the years with several Texas kids playing prominate rolls on those teams.
LSU won the title two years ago with several Texas kids starting for them against an Oklahoma team that was 55% Texas kids.

When I hear a clown make comments like. "if Texas was so good then why dont they (Tx, Tx A&M) have a recent National Title ?

If you take the Final #25 college teams rosters every year. Three States always have more kids than other States (Tx, California & Florida). Its not even close with anyone else. Every now and then Georgia puts up good numbers.

My point isnt the Top 100 blue-chips from Tx, Florida or California. Those kids will match up every year. But, if you go look at player #300 and #500 and #600. Texas will have deeper quality talent in that depth.

[Texasfrog]

Keep in mind though, Texas has twice as many D1A programs as Florida. As a result their numbers will ALWAYS be higher. If Florida had 10 D1A programs, it would inflate their numbers to right at the same #.


Florida has:

Miami, UF, Fla St, Central Fla, South Fla and now Fla International and Fla Atlantic. So, that's 7 D-1A schools now in Florida.

[brad@sunshinepreps]

Devine should be rated either 1st or 2nd back in Texas next year. Devine and Bradley Stephens of McAllen Memorial should be 1 and 2, Also Devine will be top 10 RB in the Nation ,not in the State. And you cant fault a kid for going to a small school. And I am not putting Devin in these RB's class but, Remember E. Dickerson went to a 1A school, Bo Jackson went to a 1A school. TA Mclendon 1A school. Bam Morris 2A school, and those are just a few off the top of my head. I have seen Devine and not just a highlgiht tape and trust me the kid can play.

www.sunshinepreps.net
brad@sunshinepreps.net

[DW@SunshinePreps]

I would argue that the depth is equal as well, unfortunately though our kids in Florida have all the chips stacked against them. Let me explain.

Florida schools have NO junior colleges. As a result, only the top prospects who do not qualify get placed while many of the other kids get overlooked. For example here is a kid at Piper HS named Harris Grant. This is a kid who is a year or two away from being a kid who could play at a solid D1 program.
http://sunshinepreps.net/clips/HGrant1.wmv

He is not qualified. If he were in Texas, he would find placement at the JUCO level close to home. 2 years down the road, he could find himself playing at SMU, UTEP, North Texas, etc... Being that he is from Florida, the JUCO system is a tough option for him because he will have to look far away from home. The JUCOs will also have to locate this kid.

This right here is a perfect example of a kid who because he is in Florida, has a tough road ahead while the exact same prospect in Texas would be playing JUCO ball for two years and having a shot to go D1 down the road.

[DW@SunshinePreps]

Florida has:

Miami, UF, Fla St, Central Fla, South Fla and now Fla International and Fla Atlantic. So, that's 7 D-1A schools now in Florida.

And as a result, their D1 #s will increase from where they were a few years ago. If more D1s were added, there numbers would go up even more.

[NewSherriffInTown]

You always exaggerate everything...


First thing's first...I don't want an English lesson from someone that doesn't know "there, their, and they're." Especially when I didn't write anything improper. I also don't need to be called "clown" by someone who was ejected off another forum, and is childish enough to continue THEIR crap by making up new names (including this forum which you have TWO).


Back to football and exaggerating...


65-70% of non Florida kids??? I think at the very LEAST It's the other way around with 65-70% of Florida kids. LEAST.


I just checked FSU's roster out. They have Florida starters at every position except for 2. One of their DEs, and one LB. All 3 of their QBs are Florida grown. It's a stupid argument to get into with someone like you, we've seen this before.


The Texas schools do have close to 100% Texas kids, of course.

Although one of A&M's starting corners is from this horrible football state called...what is it?? oh NEW YORK. Speaking of NY, A&M also has a NY recruit this year as well.

People who lose arguments resort to ridiculous name calling...I'm done with you. I'll always make a post or two in response to your idiotic posts, just so the others on this forum don't buy into your BS. Luckily, I don't think anyone has.

As for the video thing...

There are 1000s of guys around the country that make a living and lose jobs over watching film...So you sound like a complete jerk on that one.

The only name I'm calling you is "Spinmeister"

[Texasfrog]

Keep in mind though, Texas has twice as many D1A programs as Florida. As a result their numbers will ALWAYS be higher. If Florida had 10 D1A programs, it would inflate their numbers to right at the same #.

Hey Sunshine. Just looked at the BCS Conference 2005 Signees:


Texas - Fla.
Pac-10= 19 - 0
Big-12 = 114 - 9
SEC = 16 - 50
ACC = 8 - 54
Big-10 = 7 - 16
Big-East= 9 - 49

172 Tx & 178 Fla.

[Texasfrog]

I would argue that the depth is equal as well, unfortunately though our kids in Florida have all the chips stacked against them. Let me explain.

Florida schools have NO junior colleges. As a result, only the top prospects who do not qualify get placed while many of the other kids get overlooked. For example here is a kid at Piper HS named Harris Grant. This is a kid who is a year or two away from being a kid who could play at a solid D1 program.
http://sunshinepreps.net/clips/HGrant1.wmv

He is not qualified. If he were in Texas, he would find placement at the JUCO level close to home. 2 years down the road, he could find himself playing at SMU, UTEP, North Texas, etc... Being that he is from Florida, the JUCO system is a tough option for him because he will have to look far away from home. The JUCOs will also have to locate this kid.

This right here is a perfect example of a kid who because he is in Florida, has a tough road ahead while the exact same prospect in Texas would be playing JUCO ball for two years and having a shot to go D1 down the road.


Alot of Texas kids have left Texas to go play JUCO football in California and Kansas. Plus, Mississippi.

But, JUCO football is a great tool for kids to keep their playing days alive and hopefully move up to the next level of D-1A or D-1AA.

SMU doesnt sign alot of JUCO's. North Tx signs a few each year. They've done a great job and have won the Sun Belt 3 years in a row and have a good chance to make it 4.

UTEP signs a few also. They are a program on the rise and look for Coach Price to keep them going strong.

[PackAttack2005]

Can not wait until August when everyone hits the practice field and we can talk about something substaintial. Frog I hope you put this much effort into researching for your job and family, I don't see how you have had the time for this Ohio and Florida fillabuster about who's the best state for high school football. The past month you have proven nothing.

Frankly, I don't care about the other states because I don't live there and based on the number of Texas high schools in the state very few ever play out of state teams. The crowning glory comes from what the teams from Texas do against fellow Texans, not Ohio or Florida.

The stats your using are not apples to apples comparisions. You will only get that in head to head competition and we don't have enough of that to make a judgement. The numbers won't prove anything about a states superiority over another, except that TEXAS is bigger and has more high school football teams than the next two largest states combined.

You see, in TEXAS HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL all that really matters is who has the gold ring at the end of the season and making sure we graduate our kids.

Frog, how about whipping up the Texas football student athlete statistics and see what percentage graduate and go to college, because that is the most important statistic of all here.

[Texasfrog]

Lets see Wyatt Earp. That's your new name Newsherriff. First.. New York has like freakin 20 million people so I hope they can produce the legit 20 or so D-1A players they have each year. A big whoppin 20.. You figure with 20 million people there will at least be a "legit 20 kids."

Second.. I guess you couldnt figure it out. The 2004 Florida Big-3 QB's.

Miami's QB- Brock Berlin - Louisiana kid
FSU QB - Chris Rix - California kid
UF QB - Chris Leak - North Carolina kid.

Third.. Tx A&M starting DB is from NY ???? Wow. guess you know something nobody else does.

I'm probably going to have to correct you "ONCE AGAIN". Tx A&M has a WR-Dequan Mobley who is from NY. Maybe you got DB & WR confused..I could see where someone like you could easily do that.

Fourth: Did you look at Miami and UF rosters ? I noticed you left those off. Wonder why ??

You probably didnt like the part where Miami has 3 Texas kids starting on the O-line. Ot-Eric Winston (All-American), Og-Tony Tella, C-Tryone Byrd...

fifth.. what did I say about the Devine kid that got your panties all in a bundle ? I said his going to be a very good back. He'll be right there with about 10 other superstud backs in North Tx alone this year. Next year when his a senior he'll probably be one of the top 3 or 4 in Texas. Which would make him one of the top RB's in the nation.

I do however say give the kid a break !!! Let him come and play. If he plays in Texas 2A football his going to be a superstud and everyone in Texas agrees with that. If he plays in Texas 5A football ,, he might not put up the superhuman numbers that you think. That doesnt mean his not good.

Last.. No, I dont get all giddy over "STREAMLINE VIDEO." I could put a highlite tape together (5 or 6 plays) of kids that are barely making their 5A Varsity team that would make them look like All-Americans.

Now saying that, I'm sure the Devine kid is very legit. Just give the kid a break and lets see how he does.

And Yes.. I would put about 10 other RB's in Texas this year right with him in overall skill and talent ability.

Got it Wyatt Earp !!

[Texasfrog]

Can not wait until August when everyone hits the practice field and we can talk about something substaintial. Frog I hope you put this much effort into researching for your job and family, I don't see how you have had the time for this Ohio and Florida fillabuster about who's the best state for high school football. The past month you have proven nothing.

Frankly, I don't care about the other states because I don't live there and based on the number of Texas high schools in the state very few ever play out of state teams. The crowning glory comes from what the teams from Texas do against fellow Texans, not Ohio or Florida.

The stats your using are not apples to apples comparisions. You will only get that in head to head competition and we don't have enough of that to make a judgement. The numbers won't prove anything about a states superiority over another, except that TEXAS is bigger and has more high school football teams than the next two largest states combined.

You see, in TEXAS HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL all that really matters is who has the gold ring at the end of the season and making sure we graduate our kids.

Frog, how about whipping up the Texas football student athlete statistics and see what percentage graduate and go to college, because that is the most important statistic of all here.


Packattack. I agree with 100% of what you've said. First, I do pretty good with the job and family so thanks.

Second,, I'm not trying to prove anything about what State is better than another. In fact I've said it about 100 times that there are many teams from other States that could come into Texas and do very well and compete. I do however think that Texas is alot deeper with quality teams and I do think that almost every year the Top #15 teams in Texas wouldnt take a backseat to anyone in the nation.

Third,, this whole exchange started when (Wyatt Earp) started to attack me and putting words into my mouth about the Devine kid. I dont get all excited about "STREAMLINE VIDEO" like some people.

I say let the kid play and everyone get off the kids back. Lets let him play. If he plays in Texas 2A football he'll be a football GOD. IF he plays in Texas 5A.. I think he'll find the treading alot tougher. His still going to be good. I just think some of the numbers might not be as Goddy as alot of people think.

But, you're right. Its all about the Texas ring.

[Texasfrog]

Devine should be rated either 1st or 2nd back in Texas next year. Devine and Bradley Stephens of McAllen Memorial should be 1 and 2, Also Devine will be top 10 RB in the Nation ,not in the State. And you cant fault a kid for going to a small school. And I am not putting Devin in these RB's class but, Remember E. Dickerson went to a 1A school, Bo Jackson went to a 1A school. TA Mclendon 1A school. Bam Morris 2A school, and those are just a few off the top of my head. I have seen Devine and not just a highlgiht tape and trust me the kid can play.

www.sunshinepreps.net
brad@sunshinepreps.net

Eric Dickerson went to a 2A (SEALY). But, there was only 4 classes in Texas in the late 70's. So, it was very small. I think Sealy had about 500 kids back in the late 70's when Dickerson was there.

I would say in more recent times in Texas. Rodney Thomas (Groveton,Tx) was a 2A superstar that went on to have a very successful college (Tx A&M) and NFL career ( Oilers & titans).

Rodney Thomas was also unstoppable in High School and I think he led his team to like 3 State Titles in 2A football.

[IAmTigerWoods]

But why prosper, see how good he is at the 5A level. He looks good enough! Not to mention, his dad is Deion Sanders, its not like he isnt gonna go to college!

[Texasfrog]

Oh Ya, I almost forgot. Wyatt Earp (aka. Newsherriff). Now I have two names on this board ???](including this forum which you have TWO).[/B]

So, what is my other name ? This I've got to hear..

Again, another outlandish claim.. so, what is the second name there Wyatt Earp ?

[PackAttack2005]

Frog, how long in Miami? What year did you graduate from LHS?

[odessapermian.com]

that goes right along w/ the link of MOJO records -- living in the past! lol


I take it the whole thing went right over your head?

[Purple Haze]

I take it the whole thing went right over your head?

LOL...pay him no mind op.com... East Texas has their share of rubes just like we do. Your cheerleaders are better looking than their cheerleaders I am sure. :D :D

[NewSherriffInTown]

Great State of Texas is you...just like it's you on texashsfootball.com


I left the other two rosters out because I don't feel it's worthy of my time to debate with someone who isn't intelligent enough to realize how ridiculous they sound to this many people.

I guess I'll have to do that when I have some time to prove you wrong once again.

The reason its not worth my time is proving you wrong about things is what everyone that has stepped up to the plate has done, therefore it's nothing special.

I sorta wish you never got kicked off that forum so all of your stupidity wasn't concentrated onto this one.


Nobody ever said anything about #'s...He didn't put up crazy numbers last year did he?? It's too late for me to go checking...It was either 23 or 33 TDs...If it's 33 TDs, then I withdraw the statement, if he had 23 TDs and 1500 yards, then whats the big deal about the #'s??

Those are great #'s, but they aren't "godly" or anything, so I don't wanna hear, "he'll have normal numbers like any other top back"

His #'s don't make people excited, his talent does. No matter what type of #'s he has, he'll be the best back in the state in his class.

Seriously...I'm done with you on this thread...It's just circles with you...A fellow Texan once again has told you that you spew useless information.

[Texasfrog]

Great State of Texas is you...just like it's you on texashsfootball.com


I left the other two rosters out because I don't feel it's worthy of my time to debate with someone who isn't intelligent enough to realize how ridiculous they sound to this many people.

I guess I'll have to do that when I have some time to prove you wrong once again.

The reason its not worth my time is proving you wrong about things is what everyone that has stepped up to the plate has done, therefore it's nothing special.

I sorta wish you never got kicked off that forum so all of your stupidity wasn't concentrated onto this one.


Nobody ever said anything about #'s...He didn't put up crazy numbers last year did he?? It's too late for me to go checking...It was either 23 or 33 TDs...If it's 33 TDs, then I withdraw the statement, if he had 23 TDs and 1500 yards, then whats the big deal about the #'s??

Those are great #'s, but they aren't "godly" or anything, so I don't wanna hear, "he'll have normal numbers like any other top back"

His #'s don't make people excited, his talent does. No matter what type of #'s he has, he'll be the best back in the state in his class.

Seriously...I'm done with you on this thread...It's just circles with you...A fellow Texan once again has told you that you spew useless information.

Well, again you are 100% wrong as usual. The Great State of Texas or whatever he goes by is not ]Texasfrog. I think that's funny.

Next... you're 100% positive that the Devine kid is going to be the #1 RB bluechip prospect in the Nation much less Texas in 2006 ? You're 100% positive of that !!!!

Listen.. I'm not so sure that either the Devine kid or the Bradley kid will be the top RB's in Texas much less the nation next year.. Their will be other Junior RB's in Texas and the nation that come on the scene this season like Barnstormers and become legit Texas and National bluechip caliber prospects.

I personally know a kid from a Texas 3A school that is going to be a Junior this season. Last year as a 10th grader he rushed for 1,347 yds -- 11 tds and averaged (7.2) per carry while splitting time with a Senior RB. This kids initials or "J.F"... His approx. (6-2/195/4.5) kid that will probably rush for over 2,000 plus yards this season and become a Texas top #10 player going into his Senior year and make many so called National list.

This kid "J.F" was dunking the basketball in the 7th Grade doing 360's while doing it. His probably one of the top 11th Grade athletes in the Nation. His a great kid that also comes from a Great family. His a top character kid. He reminds me of Eric Dickerson in his smooth but powerful running style. Just remember the initials "J.F." and after this season I'll remind you "JF" when his on all the National Blue-chip list.

I can also tell you that Coach Mack Brown knows of "J.F." because his been at every UT Camp since his freshman year of High School.

There will be other's that really step up during their "junior" years and make strong impressions-- Nationally.

You show me more and more that you're just a guy that buys into Press clippings and Steamline videos. I mean all of this from a guy that openly admits that he hasnt even seen a Texas HS game in person !!! Much less one from Florida or California probably.. Go figure !!!

[Texasfrog]

Frog, how long in Miami? What year did you graduate from LHS?

Packattack2005.. I've been in Miami for a little over 2 years. Before that I lived in Virginia (4 years) and California (4 years).

I didnt graduate from LHS although I did go there. I graduated from a Texas 4A school near Houston.

I have several family members in the Texas coaching profession and have coached at almost all levels.. but mostly Texas 3A and 5A football. One of my relatives is a prominate (OC) at a Texas 5A school and has done pretty good over the years.


But, I've spent a few years in the Lufkin and East Tx area's and Lufkin has always had close spot to me. I always loved the passion at Abe Martin Stadium on Friday nights. Without a doubt its one of the top venue's in America on Friday nights for HS football.

I did some football work with Lufkins old (OC), Coach O'Quinn. His a great guy and followed his work when he left to go to San Jose St football program.

PS. Hope to be back in Texas in one year !!!!

[Xfballphenome05]

story about him an nfl.com

http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/8572733

[RidgePride]

I am sure we all have our biases but Florida football is second to none in terms of talent. Texas and Florida and California are all on equal par. Arguing which state is better is a pointless argument.

The fan support in Texas however is without any doubt on a different level.

Basically what I am getting at is this. If a kid can get the job done in Florida he can absolutely get it done anywhere else. Same holds true for Texas.

Florida has just as much talent as Texas period.
Texas High school football teams are better than Florida's period.

Reasons:

Florida does not have middle school athletics.
Texas has better athletic facilities.
Texas high school football has much more pressure to win.
Head coaches do not teach -paid well.

[ktCarl]

Thanks, Texasfrog. That needed to be said about Texas's talent versus other State's. We have a numbers advantage due to population in Texas. If Florida or Ohio has 100 17 yr olds in any given year that can play football, Texas will have 500 to match up. This would mean Texas would have more talent or depth after you get passed the blue-chippers. It also doesn't mean our blue-chippers are better than anyone else's either. Florida, Ohio, Texas, etc. whatever State's blue chip prospects would probably all be interchangeable.

About the kid Deon is a guardian to and him playing at a 3A school. Remember Eric Dickerson played for Sealy when it was a 2A school.
(Maybe Sealy was 3A back then but I think it was 2A)
It sure didn't hurt Dickerson to play at a smaller school. Didn't he win two NFL rushing titles plus play in a Superbowl?

[dragonsdaddy]

sealy was the equivalent of 3a back in the day when we would be writing on 4atexasfootball.com.

[Looking South]

has the UIL passes him to play yet

[dentonRYAN]

Prosper is 2 minutes from the Denton Ryan distric line.... now that would be cool if he played here.