Race for the Playoffs

[dragons08]

whats everyones break down of the playoff teams, as in who makes it and what not

im really interested to see how the NFC shakes out..

i'll be posting mine later, once the board slows down a little so i have time to fully "disect" the standings and schedules

[Primetime536]

whats everyones break down of the playoff teams, as in who makes it and what not

im really interested to see how the NFC shakes out..

i'll be posting mine later, once the board slows down a little so i have time to fully "disect" the standings and schedules
wild-card

afc-PIT
JAC
NFC-MIN
SKINS(dark horse)

[dragons08]

wild-card

afc-PIT
JAC
NFC-MIN
SKINS(dark horse)
skins? hmm thats interesting, who takes NFC east then?

[Primetime536]

skins? hmm thats interesting, who takes NFC east then?
giants

The skins have be rolling, I think they will carry this momentum and win out......Dallas has some momentum to tho, this is a great race.


I think the NFC will be won by the Seahawks, Shaun alexander is so dominate.


I think if the Colts go to the superbowl, which im praying they dont, the Seahawks may take them. I quetion the Colts front 7 a little. Alexander can explode outside the tackles where the Colts ends are a bit undersized and VERY agressive.

[Diablos]

giants

The skins have be rolling, I think they will carry this momentum and win out......Dallas has some momentum to tho, this is a great race.


I think the NFC will be won by the Seahawks, Shaun alexander is so dominate.


I think if the Colts go to the superbowl, which im praying they dont, the Seahawks may take them. I quetion the Colts front 7 a little. Alexander can explode outside the tackles where the Colts ends are a bit undersized and VERY agressive.



Skins and Dallas Sunday will decide that argument. I look for the Colts to win out, including the superbowl.

[dragons08]

heres my breakdown..

NFC

nfc east - giants, barely pull it off, they finsih off season 1-2, as do the cowboys..redskins go 2-1

nfc north - bears, i think the bears have enough to make it happen, if vick is hurt, they will beat the falcons on sunday, almost guarenteeing them a spot..they can lose the next 2 games, and beat vikings in the finale, giveing them the divison due to tie breaker rules

nfc south- tampa bay pulls off this one in the last week

nfc wildcard- redskins and panthers

[Diablos]

heres my breakdown..

NFC

nfc east - giants, barely pull it off, they finsih off season 1-2, as do the cowboys..redskins go 2-1

nfc north - bears, i think the bears have enough to make it happen, if vick is hurt, they will beat the falcons on sunday, almost guarenteeing them a spot..they can lose the next 2 games, and beat vikings in the finale, giveing them the divison due to tie breaker rules

nfc south- tampa bay pulls off this one in the last week

nfc wildcard- redskins and panthers



Look for the Vikings in the mix. Adversity has been good for them.

[dragons08]

Look for the Vikings in the mix. Adversity has been good for them.
i can see a choke coming up..

[GTown02]

NFC Playoff teams = Seahawks, Giants, Bears, and Carolina. Wild Card = Vikings and Cowboys.

[lonny23]

NFC Playoff teams = Seahawks, Giants, Bears, and Carolina. Wild Card = Vikings and Cowboys.
I think you got it right. Good job!

[Diablos]

NFC Playoff teams = Seahawks, Giants, Bears, and Carolina. Wild Card = Vikings and Cowboys.


All looks good.

[yankee]

heres my breakdown..

NFC

nfc east - giants, barely pull it off, they finsih off season 1-2, as do the cowboys..redskins go 2-1

nfc north - bears, i think the bears have enough to make it happen, if vick is hurt, they will beat the falcons on sunday, almost guarenteeing them a spot..they can lose the next 2 games, and beat vikings in the finale, giveing them the divison due to tie breaker rules

nfc south- tampa bay pulls off this one in the last week

nfc wildcard- redskins and panthers
the bears have no offense. kyle orton is terrible and their offensive woes caught up to them vs. pittsburgh. and vick is supposed to play, even if he doesnt practice this week. the falcons have an OK defense that should be able to hold chicago to one td and the usual 2-3 fg's. i look for a low scoring falcons win.

[TexasRed6x]

The Bears lack offense that most teams have. I don't even think that they actually know how to use their offense efficiently on big game situations. I see their defense as one of the best in the league besides the Colts who have slowed down a bit. I do think that they might be able to keep that spot if their offense doesn't screw it up. I think that the Seahawks will stay where they're at and clinch the division. Same with the Panthers, they will stay at the top unless their offense slows down and Atlanta pulls an Indy. The AFC will basically stay the same as it has been. The Colts will lock up their division that's a given, I do see the Patriots as a division leader and the Steelers to at least make the wild card with the combination of Roethlisberger to Ward heating up along with the Chargers with that dangerous offense with L.T., Brees and Gates.

[southlake thug]

By no means would a call kyle orton "terrible". He is just not a big play QB. He is conservative and he generally doesn't get his team into trouble (exception is of course cinncy game). The Bears are reminiscent of the 2001 Ravens with that stingy D and weak O. It is going to come down to the last week agianst Minn.

Either way, Lovie Smith has turned this team around and they will deff. contend for a couple more years. This is alot better team then the 2001 playoff bears.

[dragons08]

By no means would a call kyle orton "terrible". He is just not a big play QB. He is conservative and he generally doesn't get his team into trouble (exception is of course cinncy game). The Bears are reminiscent of the 2001 Ravens with that stingy D and weak O. It is going to come down to the last week agianst Minn.

Either way, Lovie Smith has turned this team around and they will deff. contend for a couple more years. This is alot better team then the 2001 playoff bears.
i dont know, the 01 bears acuttaly had some what of an offense..

kyle orton, doesnt make plays, when needed, the bears need a big play qb..we have a GREAT rb in jones and a GREAT wr in muhmaed, all we need is a qb to fill in the missing link, and we can be talking deep playoff run..orton's problem is he overthrows EVERYBALL, its getting ridiculus every play the ball is up high, he will get somebody hurt if he keeps throwing it like that over the middle

[Primetime536]

By no means would a call kyle orton "terrible". He is just not a big play QB. He is conservative and he generally doesn't get his team into trouble (exception is of course cinncy game). The Bears are reminiscent of the 2001 Ravens with that stingy D and weak O. It is going to come down to the last week agianst Minn.

Either way, Lovie Smith has turned this team around and they will deff. contend for a couple more years. This is alot better team then the 2001 playoff bears.
well, orton, is, decent. He puts up TERIBLE numbers but the man wins.

[TexasRed6x]

As long as he can stay decent, the offense will be a little bit better.

[Primetime536]

As long as he can stay decent, the offense will be a little bit better.
man, i wonder thow, he averages like 130 yards ppg, thats just pittitful....If you luvie what do you do?

[TexasRed6x]

I don't know. Maybe try to bring back Grossman to see what he can do or start Craig Krenzel.

[Primetime536]

I don't know. Maybe try to bring back Grossman to see what he can do or start Craig Krenzel.
naw you cant do that....What if you start him and hes pitifull? What if they cant win with him? When Orton has proven he can win?

You change your starting QB this late when your winning and tring to win a division.

[southlake thug]

true, if you pull Orton you will loose the confidence of the entire offense. And that O can't loose anything right now.

There Defense is good enough to maybe get them a 1st rd win, but I don't know about anything else.

Hey d08- you remember who beat your bears in '01? Da eagles

[TexasRed6x]

I guess I was wrong on that decision. Honestly, I think that Orton has proved himself enough to keep the starting job for the rest of the season an possibly the future. He's only a rookie and is going through some tough pains right now and that's really what rookies generally go through.

[Primetime536]

true, if you pull Orton you will loose the confidence of the entire offense. And that O can't loose anything right now.

There Defense is good enough to maybe get them a 1st rd win, but I don't know about anything else.

Hey d08- you remember who beat your bears in '01? Da eagles
True eh?? I thought i knew nothing about sports?

[dragons08]

well, orton, is, decent. He puts up TERIBLE numbers but the man wins.
no, defense wins, what does orton do? ahh lets see nothing!

the bears longest touchdown drive in the last like 3 games is 10 yards..he does a lot there..

[southlake thug]

True eh?? I thought i knew nothing about sports?

Well for once you used your head and actually said something intelligent. If you just don't talk about the Pats it seems like you know what you are talking about.

[Primetime536]

no, defense wins, what does orton do? ahh lets see nothing!

the bears longest touchdown drive in the last like 3 games is 10 yards..he does a lot there..
yes defense wins. But so does offense. Defense wins if you have a DECENT offense.

[dragons08]

yes defense wins. But so does offense. Defense wins if you have a DECENT offense.
no..

the defense probally has more yards on INT's and i'll include special teams, than the offense does..

[Primetime536]

Well for once you used your head and actually said something intelligent. If you just don't talk about the Pats it seems like you know what you are talking about.
I still stand by my comments and say the Pats are the 2nd best team in the league.

[dragons08]

I still stand by my comments and say the Pats are the 2nd best team in the league.
no way

what is your reasnoing?

[southlake thug]

no way

what is your reasnoing?

Dont even try to argue or reason with him.


They have Bellicheck and Brady - that is his reasoning

[BAMF cowboy]

here is my random and shocking prediction:

The Falcons will NOT make the playoffs.

[Primetime536]

Dont even try to argue or reason with him.


They have Bellicheck and Brady - that is his reasoning
Your really dont understand what bellicheck does. HES AN AMAZING COACH.

Look at the patriots DBs. Can you name one of them? I doubt it......BB has slowly molded these New Dbs into good players. The Pats are getting stronger and stronger....

The amazing thing is, the pats are even above .500 with all these injuries....You should really appritiate BB, he is turns undrafted free angents like Gay, into a starter on a World champion team.

So yes, my reasoning, the Pats have the best coaching, and the best QB.

[dragons08]

Dont even try to argue or reason with him.


They have Bellicheck and Brady - that is his reasoning
acuttaly we discussed this on aim and came to the conclusion that if the pats get their secondary in sync and get them better, they can be a legit top 5

[BAMF cowboy]

several injured players for the Patriots are getting healthy. Dillon returned last sunday, and it showed. they've been somewhat quiet all season, but they'll make a bang in the playoffs.

[dragons08]

here is my random and shocking prediction:

The Falcons will NOT make the playoffs.
you sem to fit in the norm in here, nobody is picking hte falcons to make it

[Primetime536]

One of the Patriots key returning players is Faulk. People dont understand how big he is to this offense. Hes a forsure 50 yards recieving and a good 20 rushing.

[southlake thug]

Your really dont understand what bellicheck does. HES AN AMAZING COACH.

Look at the patriots DBs. Can you name one of them? I doubt it......BB has slowly molded these New Dbs into good players. The Pats are getting stronger and stronger....

The amazing thing is, the pats are even above .500 with all these injuries....You should really appritiate BB, he is turns undrafted free angents like Gay, into a starter on a World champion team.

So yes, my reasoning, the Pats have the best coaching, and the best QB.


Of course BB is the best coach right now, and has been for the several years. He is an absoulute genious. But they still have way to many injuries. That has been my reasoning for their poor performance all year. If they had Rodney Harrison in particular they would probably have about 10 or 11 wins right now.

[Primetime536]

Of course BB is the best coach right now, and has been for the several years. He is an absoulute genious. But they still have way to many injuries. That has been my reasoning for their poor performance all year. If they had Rodney Harrison in particular they would probably have about 10 or 11 wins right now.
The pats defense is almost there, they have the best run stopping D, but damn they sure do give up alot of big plays.

[dragons08]

The pats defense is almost there, they have the best run stopping D, but damn they sure do give up alot of big plays.
which is what you and i were saying earlier, they get that secondray groomed well, and then theyd be top 5

[southlake thug]

The pats defense is almost there, they have the best run stopping D, but damn they sure do give up alot of big plays.


According to who?

They are actually ranked 11th in rushing defense. But nice try

[southlake thug]

And they are 2nd to last in passing defense.

I doubt there has ever been a team to win the super bowl with those whopping stats.

[Primetime536]

According to who?

They are actually ranked 11th in rushing defense. But nice try
Like i said, they are just getting healthy, look at the last 5 games, since seymore and bruski returned/

[southlake thug]

so did you just make up that stat?

That is just another example of why none of your comments can be taken seriously.

[Primetime536]

so did you just make up that stat?

That is just another example of why none of your comments can be taken seriously.
Ok, *****. Again you have made turned a good disscusion into something..bad.........IN the last 5 weeks the Pats average 53 rushing yards against. It may be the last 4, but before doubting me, know you ****, i know mine.

[southlake thug]

Did you say anything about the last 4 or 5 games? No.

This has to be a joke, how can you possbily be serious right now. You just completly make up stuff and then attempt to change your words.

Wow, and in those 5 games that have played some explosive offenses, such as:
Miami
NYJ
Buffalo
New Orleans


And they are up 26 points to the Cheifs and lost that game. Funny how the only good team that they play, they loose and show no defense.

[Primetime536]

Did you say anything about the last 4 or 5 games? No.

This has to be a joke, how can you possbily be serious right now. You just completly make up stuff and then attempt to change your words.

Wow, and in those 5 games that have played some explosive offenses, such as:
Miami
NYJ
Buffalo
New Orleans


And they are up 26 points to the Cheifs and lost that game. Funny how the only good team that they play, they loose and show no defense.
Yes, i say they are the best defense against the rush. Earlier in the season they didnt have their best 3 run stoppers, not they have 2 of them and are the best......Dawg whats your deal with the Patriots? I know they win alot, but fareal, talk **** about another team, havnt they proven themselves? Dumbasses like you will never learn.

[southlake thug]

Prime - you are ridiculous. I don't have a problem with the pats, but i do have a problem with you.

I just don't think it is cool to say that they have the best run stopping D, when statiscally they are slightly above average. But I guess the stats are wrong agian and you are right.

I challenge you to find one person who actually agrees with you on this subject.

[southlake thug]

The only good RB the Pats have played in the past 5 weeks is Larry Johnson who rushed for 119 yds on 31 carries.


Yeah the Pats have shut down a couple medicore backs lalty, but is that any reason to say that they are the best run stopping defense in the league?

Untill they actually stop a good running team, they are just an average rushing defense.

And you can argue that all you want- but numbers don't lie.

[Primetime536]

The only good RB the Pats have played in the past 5 weeks is Larry Johnson who rushed for 119 yds on 31 carries.


Yeah the Pats have shut down a couple medicore backs lalty, but is that any reason to say that they are the best run stopping defense in the league?

Untill they actually stop a good running team, they are just an average rushing defense.

And you can argue that all you want- but numbers don't lie.
Wassup "thug", i dont see you trashing the patriots anymore, what happned? The Pats have outscored opponets, 79-10 in the last 3 weeks, and they have absolutly dominated everyrunning back they have faced in the last 5 weeks.

Ill say it again, Dont sleep on the CHAMPS.

[dragons08]

bears clinch first round bye and 2nd seed