Its Official Evil Roy is gone

[chpanther]

Thank God

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3954441

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

Thank God

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3954441

Kick rocks!:notworthy

[TexasRed6x]

He was a hard hitter but he was weak in coverage. Im glad they got rid of him.

[SLC93]

There was a time you could forgive his pass coverage because he knocked people out, sacked qbs, intercepted passes, caused and recovered fumbles. Those days are long gone and seem to coincide with the day Woodson retired. He's been a nonfactor for so many seasons now this cannot be considered a loss. We saved money making this move and took away another draining storyline for the media to report on. Thats a win/win.

[SLC]

Roy had to go, it was long overdue..Hard to beleive the guy made the pro bowl in 5 of his 7 seasons in the league...Thats honestly shocking for one of the most overrated players to ever dawn an NFL uniform. His rise and demise began and ended with Woody roaming the secondary and what even crazier is if Woody had never gotten hurt we all would have went on thinking how great Roy was and never fully giving credit to the person it actually belonged to..Woody. It however, became crystal clear as soon as Woody got hurt, as to who was actually doing the playing back there. True enough he'll wind up somewhere, but thank god it wont be Arlington.

[Dawg Fan]

Why couldn't we at least try to trade TO and Roy? This way we get absolutely nothing:mad:

[GoOwls]

Why couldn't we at least try to trade TO and Roy? This way we get absolutely nothing:mad:

I heard a nice discussion on the radio today about this subject.

To make it brief, T.O would cost a team about 6 -8 million and would have to give Dallas a late round pick.

There aren't many teams that are in a position to do it, plus, you need a team with a strong, veteran QB who would stand up to T.O and a coach witht he power to stomp him down and an ower who will stay out of the way.

There are so few teams that would qualify for the job that the ones who do will simply wait it out and bid for him now that he is released.

Pretty much the same for Roy, and who is going to trade for a DB who can't cover....:eek:

[SLC93]

Roy had to go, it was long overdue..Hard to beleive the guy made the pro bowl in 5 of his 7 seasons in the league...Thats honestly shocking for one of the most overrated players to ever dawn an NFL uniform. His rise and demise began and ended with Woody roaming the secondary and what even crazier is if Woody had never gotten hurt we all would have went on thinking how great Roy was and never fully giving credit to the person it actually belonged to..Woody. It however, became crystal clear as soon as Woody got hurt, as to who was actually doing the playing back there. True enough he'll wind up somewhere, but thank god it wont be Arlington.

Yup.

How good was Woodson? So good that he made Mr. Williams a household name, a pro bowler & the highest paid safety in history(at the time). That's alot of work, especially when you consider he was finishing off a hof deserving career himself. Woodson made Williams, period.

[SLC93]

Why couldn't we at least try to trade TO and Roy? This way we get absolutely nothing:mad:

Because it's the NFL and not the NBA or MLB. Trades are far from the norm in professional football. They are also much more difficult because a real, hard, salary cap. It costs money, for both teams, in the NFL to trade. There is no such thing as a buy out or sending cash to make the numbers work. Also, gm's are just alot smarter, for the most part, in the NFL. They do not trade for age and they do not trade for players in decline. The rosters are large enough that they get their role guys on the cheap, filling out the bottom of the roster with them. No other league is as bottom line, who's producing and what have you done for me lately as the NFL is. The window for success is always the smallest here and the chance of dramatic injury is highest. This is also the sport where trading for any player, no matter how good, has the least impact. You're not going to acquire a player that will win you games, single handedly, like a pitcher in a pennant race or the power forward who solves your lack of rebounding/interior defense/interior scoring and makes your 3 point shooters better. This game is just different.


As for TO and Williams, specifically, take a moment to summarize the situation for each and ask yourself if you'd give up a draft pick for either.

TO - soon to be 36 year old receiver, just had his worst statistical season of his career, his catches for 1st downs fell by over 55%, caught less than half of what was thrown his way, again among the league leaders in drops, is in his third consecutive locker room with his third consecutive franchise that is in shambles, rumors he may be released

Roy - missed most of the season with injury, has been a virtual nonfactor for the better part of four seasons, horrendous liability in pass coverage, no longer puts people on the turf when he goes for the knock which is embarassing and leads to missed tackles, had a penalty named after him and still commits the infraction on a regular basis, is almost certain to be released

Now all of those details are true but there is really only one that absolutely matters. Both players were at least known to be on the chopping block. In Williams case, it was almost a certainty. In Owens case, teams would know that if they were shopping Owens it was in a desperate attempt to salvage something before a release. In the NFL, unless you're Dallas, you do not give up anything for a player that will be on the market and available to anyone soon. Draft picks are too valuable to the health of your team, your cap and any hope of continued, long term success.