Aggie Recruiting

[austin pride]

What is with the lack of commits so far and also what type of star prospects are the targeting?

[F18mustang]

What is with the lack of commits so far and also type star prospects are the targeting?

Texas is just 'punching them in the nuts' with every commit.

[chapfan2008]

Mustang has it about right. Our current commits, Shep Klinke, Jameill Showers, and Clay Honeycutt are 3,3, and 2/3 stars respectively. Jameill will start out at 4 but I just don't believe he'll stay there.

Our recruiting will take off more in the summer once tu is completely done with their haul.

[austin pride]

Well does Sherman have a good relationships with the high school coaches here if not that may be a factor

[AHSeagles]

For my fellow Aggie fans, who are the top 5 recruits that A&M is after that you hope they land?

For me it would be in this order:
Jackson Jeffcoat
Reggie Wilson
Jake Matthews
Darius White
Lache Seastrunk

I listed these guys in the order of importance IMO (Matthews could possibly be #1 on list of importance). I'm not a Rivals member or have any inside info except that we've offered these guys and they have some what interest in A&M. I understand that Matthews has a pretty solid shot of ending up in College Station, but I'm not sure about the rest.

[HUM398]

Well does Sherman have a good relationships with the high school coaches here if not that may be a factor

Why would that be a factor?

He is the Head Coach of Texas A&M....Yeah, while the name doesn't carry the name it used to it still out weighs Tech, Cougar high, and TCU for the most part....

I think it could be an advantage, but not a negative factor.

It is more important for someone like Briles then it is for Sherman....

[chapfan2008]

Why would that be a factor?

He is the Head Coach of Texas A&M....Yeah, while the name doesn't carry the name it used to it still out weighs Tech, Cougar high, and TCU for the most part....

I think it could be an advantage, but not a negative factor.

It is more important for someone like Briles then it is for Sherman....

It makes a huge difference, you have to have the respect of the hs coaches or else you can't infiltrate their high school.

[chapfan2008]

For my fellow Aggie fans, who are the top 5 recruits that A&M is after that you hope they land?

For me it would be in this order:
Jackson Jeffcoat
Reggie Wilson
Jake Matthews
Darius White
Lache Seastrunk

I listed these guys in the order of importance IMO (Matthews could possibly be #1 on list of importance). I'm not a Rivals member or have any inside info except that we've offered these guys and they have some what interest in A&M. I understand that Matthews has a pretty solid shot of ending up in College Station, but I'm not sure about the rest.

It's really pointless to debate stuff like that as Matthews is the ONLY guy on that list that we have even a minute chance with.

[Dawg Fan]

It makes a huge difference, you have to have the respect of the hs coaches or else you can't infiltrate their high school.

you think he doesn't have high school coaches respect? Please show some proof of that besides your opinion. He has been in the program for ONE year. You think he should have had contact with the high school coaches while in the NFL just on the odd chance he would be coming back to coach a Texas college team? Give the guy a chance to build relationships with these guys. Try to be a little more positive. If he doesn't improve the overall program in three years, then give him the boot but lets not be so impatient.;)

[pied]

you think he doesn't have high school coaches respect? Please show some proof of that besides your opinion. He has been in the program for ONE year. You think he should have had contact with the high school coaches while in the NFL just on the odd chance he would be coming back to coach a Texas college team? Give the guy a chance to build relationships with these guys. Try to be a little more positive. If he doesn't improve the overall program in three years, then give him the boot but lets not be so impatient.;)

When Mack came in he hired Bruce Chambers from Dallas Carter immediately. One of his first orders of business was winning the coaches in Texas. He has gone WAY out of his way to build those inroads, including mentioning them on the podium at the National Championship.

I suspect some of the horns have seen this post from AgTimes:

gLaw06


Joined: 12 Nov 2008
Posts: 88
Location: Frisco, Texas

PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 9:32 pm


Post subject: Sherman and Recruiting


I am not at all a Mike Sherman basher....or supporter at this point. My opinion is that a coach needs time to recruit, time to develop those recruits...and time to translate that recruiting and developing into wins on the field.

That said, I found it quite disconcerting that the head football coach (he was a D-coordinator at the time) Coach Howard of Wylie had this to say about Coach Sherman. I should preface this statement with the fact that it is second hand info....but it came from an EXTREMELY reliable source, one that I would trust above all others.

My friend told me that Coach Howard told him that he would never EVER send a player to A&M or recommend a visit. Coach Howard stated that he waited on Coach Sherman for a meeting, about a player on the Wylie squad, during the 5A championship weekend that Coach Sherman requested...that Coach Sherman never showed up for, and he would never send a kid to A&M because of it.

Regardless of if this seems petty, or whether there was a better player out there that Coach Sherman was trying to recruit (Katy does have MANY great athletes)...it doesn't help that he stood up a coach. High school coaches talk all the time, and it doesn't help to have even one that's been stood up. Wylie doesn't produce D-1 caliber players with regularity so maybe this isn't such a big deal, but it was definitely something I wasn't expecting or prepared to hear.

That said, I sure hope he doesn't do that to the top athletes...or their coaches because we might be in the doghouse for years to come. I still believe that Sherman should be judged on results on the field and those things take time....but I sure hope this doesn't become a habit.

[HUM398]

It makes a huge difference, you have to have the respect of the hs coaches or else you can't infiltrate their high school.

He immediately gets in the door with a big name. Its having a good relationship that gives you a advantage like Brown has.... But by no means is he being ignored....This is the Former NFL coach we are talking about....

But in his second year, it doesn't really play a major role..... 5 years down the road, it does....it will either help him or Hurt him...

[Firebird]

When Mack came in he hired Bruce Chambers from Dallas Carter immediately. One of his first orders of business was winning the coaches in Texas. He has gone WAY out of his way to build those inroads, including mentioning them on the podium at the National Championship.

I suspect some of the horns have seen this post from AgTimes:

Second hand message board inside information.....awesome.

[pied]

Second hand message board inside information.....awesome.

Are you questioning gLaw06?

[Firebird]

What is with the lack of commits so far and also what type of star prospects are the targeting?

None of the class of 2010 has their stars yet. If you are asking what positions we want this year, the answer is:

1. DE
2. OL
3. QB

Jameil Showers has signed his LOI and the staff has had their eye on him for a while. Offered a long way back. After Connor Wood, I don't think there is another QB prospect they would have preferred.

[Firebird]

Are you questioning gLaw06?

I'm telling you on the internets what my friend told me what a coach told him that Sherman did.

[pied]

None of the class of 2010 has their stars yet. If you are asking what positions we want this year, the answer is:

1. DE
2. OL
3. QB

Jameil Showers has signed his LOI and the staff has had their eye on him for a while. Offered a long way back. After Connor Wood, I don't think there is another QB prospect they would have preferred.

I believe they targeted McCoy well before offering Wood. Also, Showers cannot sign his LOI until February. No early signing in football, but he was the #1 prospect for them at QB regardless.

[KT2000]

I don't have Interwebs resources, but I actually quite like Sherman based on what I've heard from the parents of the players he's recruited. He sounds like someone that any parent would be comfortable trusting their kid with for four years. Very genuine, no BS.

If he can surround himself with some young and energetic recruiters to help hit the pavement and regain a little ground, I think he could build something good.

[pied]

I don't have Interwebs resources, but I actually quite like Sherman based on what I've heard from the parents of the players he's recruited. He sounds like someone that any parent would be comfortable trusting their kid with for four years. Very genuine, no BS.

If he can surround himself with some young and energetic recruiters to help hit the pavement and regain a little ground, I think he could build something good.

Remember he took less money to pay more to bring in a good staff.

[Firebird]

I believe they targeted McCoy well before offering Wood. Also, Showers cannot sign his LOI until February. No early signing in football, but he was the #1 prospect for them at QB regardless.

True, total brain fart from my end. Wanted to say gave his commitment.

[cajun]

What is with the lack of commits so far and also what type of star prospects are the targeting?

The entire nation has a lack of commits so far except Texas at this point....Texas A&M has 3 commits...USC only has two so far, Oklahoma had 3 until last night and we (LSU) only have 5 so far...

The State of Texas put out 407 D1 kids last year, I'm pretty sure they will equal that this year...Texas grabs their 25 in a couple of weeks and that leaves alot of quality kids for alot of school (A&M included)....A&M has quite a few offers floating in Louisiana also....Pretty sure they get 2-4 La Kids...

Point?...It's not how you start, but how you finish...That's the way I see it..

[Dawg Fan]

The entire nation has a lack of commits so far except Texas at this point....Texas A&M has 3 commits...USC only has two so far, Oklahoma had 3 until last night and we (LSU) only have 5 so far...

The State of Texas put out 407 D1 kids last year, I'm pretty sure they will equal that this year...Texas grabs their 25 in a couple of weeks and that leaves alot of quality kids for alot of school (A&M included)....A&M has quite a few offers floating in Louisiana also....Pretty sure they get 2-4 La Kids...

Point?...It's not how you start, but how you finish...That's the way I see it..

very well said

[chapfan2008]

If he can surround himself with some young and energetic recruiters to help hit the pavement and regain a little ground, I think he could build something good.

Which he has not done whatsoever.

[cajun]

very well said

Texas may have more commits than the entire SEC so far...:eek:

[pied]

a$m is in a similar situation as the FL schools. They must be able to recruit primarily in state to compete in the Big XII south. They have been getting their recruiting a$$ handed to them basically since Mack arrived w/his first full class in '99.

a$m has not been ranked in the top 25 since that time. Not since '99.

[Dawg Fan]

Which he has not done whatsoever.

so you know all the recruiters? Who are they? You seem to have the inside scoop so please share with us less informed.

[pied]

so you know all the recruiters? Who are they? You seem to have the inside scoop so please share with us less informed.


Well it's certainly not the head guy, or the OC who had never coached college ball, or Kines who was unemployed and second choice at best for the gig.

[Firebird]

Well it's certainly not the head guy, or the OC who had never coached college ball, or Kines who was unemployed and second choice at best for the gig.

Don't badmouth Cromwell or you will get the axe....
http://www.stives-town.info/citizens/cromwell/images/oliver_cromwell_closeup.jpg

[chapfan2008]

so you know all the recruiters? Who are they? You seem to have the inside scoop so please share with us less informed.

Don't be that guy. I'm VERY well connected. You think I'm going to just throw my sources around on the site? You have to have leverage with them.

[Dawg Fan]

Don't be that guy. I'm VERY well connected. You think I'm going to just throw my sources around on the site? You have to have leverage with them.

All I am saying is that you are very negative. You need to just give it a little time. I am sorry if I come down kinda hard on you. I don't really need your sources. It is not like we don't get enough grief from the sips about everything A & M. I just think we should give the guy some rope. Lets see if we improve this year. If things don't get any better or get worse I will jump on your bandwagon. Lets be good fans with a positive attitude. We may get pleasantly surprised. The Maroon and white game will be coming up in April (I believe). Do me a favor and go watch that game and see if we look any better.

[pied]

All I am saying is that you are very negative. You need to just give it a little time. I am sorry if I come down kinda hard on you. I don't really need your sources. It is not like we don't get enough grief from the sips about everything A & M. I just think we should give the guy some rope. Lets see if we improve this year. If things don't get any better or get worse I will jump on your bandwagon. Lets be good fans with a positive attitude. We may get pleasantly surprised. The Maroon and white game will be coming up in April (I believe). Do me a favor and go watch that game and see if we look any better.

Which team the maroon or the white?

[Firebird]

Don't be that guy. I'm VERY well connected. You think I'm going to just throw my sources around on the site? You have to have leverage with them.

Then don't be that guy. You know, the anonymous guy with all sorts of inside information and big connections that can be found on every internet football board.....:rolleyes:

[pied]

Which team the maroon or the white?

Here you go:

Sat, Sep 02 The Citadel College Station, Texas W 35-3
Sat, Sep 09 Louisiana-Lafayette College Station, Texas W 51-7
Sat, Sep 16 vs. Army San Antonio, Texas W 28-24
Sat, Sep 23 Louisiana Tech College Station, Texas W 45-14
Sat, Sep 30 Texas Tech (24) * College Station, Texas L 27-31
Sat, Oct 07 @ Kansas * Lawrence, Kan. W 21-18
Sat, Oct 14 Missouri (19) * College Station, Texas W 25-19
Sat, Oct 21 @ Oklahoma State (OT) * Stillwater, Okla. W 34-33
Sat, Oct 28 @ Baylor * Waco, Texas W 31-21
Sat, Nov 04 Oklahoma (18) * College Station, Texas L 16-17
Sat, Nov 11 Nebraska (25) * College Station, Texas L 27-28
Fri, Nov 24 @ Texas (10) * Austin, Texas W 12-7
Thu, Dec 28 vs. California (19) San Diego, Calif. L 10-45
Sat, Apr 14 Maroon & White Game X College Station, Texas W 27-13

http://www.aggieathletics.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/tam-m-footbl-2006-stats.html

[agmc27]

the spring game is stupid.

[chapfan2008]

Of course I'll be at the Spring Game. As of about 3 weeks ago I had full positivity and confidence that Sherman would get a good class in 2010 and would reload here in College Station, then I saw lots of guys commit elsewhere, new articles come out saying the recruit "hasn't been hearing from a&m", Mack talked to them more at jr day than Sherman did, etc....

It's just depressing and our staff has really screwed up recruiting this class.