SLC and Katy Rushing Stats

[SLCDad]

We've already talked about receiving statistics.

Here are the rushing stats for Katy and SLC. (The Katy stats came from the Houston Chronicle and the SLC stats came from the Dallas Morning News.)

SLC......................ATT......YARDS...AVG..... .TDs
Tre' Newton...........152.......1,174.....7.7.........1 3
Greg McElroy..........143.........691.....4.8.........1 2
Riley Dodge.............80..........665.....8.3......... .6
Matt Moorefield.......75..........289......3.9......... .4
Derek Tomlin............6...........33......5.5......... ..0
McKay Jacobson.......1...........31.....31.0..........0
Matt Hampton..........5...........13......2.6.......... .0
Matt Harrison...........4...........12......3.0........ ...0
Jared Junker............1............4.......4.0........ ...0
Total SLC...........467.......2,912......6.2.........35

Katy....................ATT......YARDS...AVG...... TDS
Brandon King.........191........1,314.....6.9.........16
Aundre Dean.........129..........782.....6.1..........5
Trent Hunter..........17...........90......5.3.......... 0
Taylor Stuckey........6............23......3.8..........0
Andy Dalton............4............11......2.8........ ..1
Total Katy...........347......2,220......6.4.........22

[insider]

so, one conclusion to draw from these numbers - SLC has to contain two players and Katy will probably be out of their comfort zone running while SLC has four players that may come in, in different roles, to keep Katy guessing.

Or did I misunderstand?

[ALLIN]

Man, it is surprising to me how close this stat is. If you average out Katy's rushing to 467 attempts at 6.4 per carry they would be at 2988, and SLC is at 2912. These are really close. Both teams are really balanced. I really think the balance (for Katy) benefits SLC. I think it will slow down the game a little, compared to 03 and all the rushing (except for the one really great pass to Mouton; on the money by the way). Anyway, I will take SLC in this one:
SLC 31
katy 17

[dragonsdaddy]

so, one conclusion to draw from these numbers - SLC has to contain two players and Katy will probably be out of their comfort zone running while SLC has four players that may come in, in different roles, to keep Katy guessing.

Or did I misunderstand?
of late, the slc running attack has been a 2 headed dragon-mc and newton. rdodge has been pretty much playing only wr, and morefield very little at all. there will never be more than 2 potential rushers on the field at a time.

[SLCDad]

SLC's games are effectively longer than Katy's. More passes stop the clock. Quicker/No Huddle offense results in more plays. That may be why SLC's rushing and passing stats are higher. More plays are run per game.

SLC really only has two rushing threats, Newton and McElroy. Yes, Dodge comes in on occasion at QB or RB but it's been much less during the playoffs. On any given play, two guys are a threat to run.

It is interesting to note, however, that the Katy QB (Andy Dalton) doesn't run all that much. That surprises me. Perhaps a Katy fan can shed some light on how the Katy rushing offense works and specifically why Dalton doesn't have more carries.

[SLCDad]

It is fun for the SLC fans to ponder on the fact that the #1 and #3 rushers are both Sophs.

[KT2000]

Surely, you remember the pro style attacks of yesteryear when fullbacks and tight ends had a place on the field? ;)

In Katy's multiple I scheme, the QB isn't required to do any running to make the offense go. I can only remember two Tiger QBs that had designed runs called consistently (as in a few times per game at least).

This is the most balanced pass-run offense that Katy's ever had because of Dalton's ability as a QB, the two tailbacks (one is always fresh), solid OL and the depth at receiver. Versatile team overall.

[exbearkat]

Dalton isn't as effective a runner as some that we've had in the past. However, he is probably the most accurate pure passer in Katy history. Some will argue that Jared Kaspar was just as deadly, but opening it up just wasn't the Katy offensive style during his time. He was a more talented runner than that of Dalton, but I have continued to be more and more impressed with the yardage AD has been able to gain over the last several weeks when he does decide to tuck it and run.

King and Dean are a nice one-two punch for the Tigers. Neither is on the same level as "big boy" Aston, but are versatile and keep defenses guessing with their different styles. Some, however, believe that before it's all said and done, that Dean will be the best RB to have ever played at Katy. To me, that remains to be seen (he's only a Sophomore).

[SeeingRed]

Factor in one less game due to Rita...

[Favpack]

I hope this doesn't come across negatively - SLC must face some really exotic defenses for Greg to have racked up the yards he did. The one positive I'll say about his running style is he stays low and moves forward - the big kid will fall for a couple of yards, and he does do a good job of bouncing off would-be sack attempts. He was just way too slow to be effective against Lufkin. Tre will be special the next couple of years - but I think Katy will have some effectiveness at slowing him down. Look for more deep balls Saturday against the Tigers.

[pack0808]

I hope this doesn't come across negatively - SLC must face some really exotic defenses for Greg to have racked up the yards he did. The one positive I'll say about his running style is he stays low and moves forward - the big kid will fall for a couple of yards, and he does do a good job of bouncing off would-be sack attempts. He was just way too slow to be effective against Lufkin. Tre will be special the next couple of years - but I think Katy will have some effectiveness at slowing him down. Look for more deep balls Saturday against the Tigers.


I agree Greg is a pocket passer not a real dual threat like the last 2 SLC qb's. in Chase Daniel and Chase Wasson. Nothing wrong with that. Pocket passer's have won 98 percent of the Super Bowl's. He is not Vinny Testaverde when he run's but he is definitely not a Steve Young or Mike Vick either. He is much more dangerous in the pocket and is not a real threat on draws. Well that is in my opinion from what i saw Saturday. He is a big guy that you better wrap up. Lufkin had several more sack opportunities but tried to knock him out instead of wrapping up. DE Penson had a clear shot at him in the 1st half and hit him very hard and knocked him back a few yards and Greg still stayed on his feet and threw the ball away. He saved his team a 15 yard loss on that play. Do not get me wrong he has some scrambling skills but he is not a big time threat to run. He is kind of like a Rothlesberger when he runs. He can get the job done rushing but it is not that pretty and he is not a game breaker while running the ball. But he sure is a gamebreaker in the pocket throwing the ball. Very accurate and a strong strong arm

[SLCDad]

Surely, you remember the pro style attacks of yesteryear when fullbacks and tight ends had a place on the field? ;)

Fullback? Tight End? Never heard of those positions.

It that a description of a player when observing from behind? Just wondering.

[SLCDad]

I agree Greg is a pocket passer not a real dual threat like the last 2 SLC qb's. in Chase Daniel and Chase Wasson. Nothing wrong with that. Pocket passer's have won 98 percent of the Super Bowl's. He is not Vinny Testaverde when he run's but he is definitely not a Steve Young or Mike Vick either. He is much more dangerous in the pocket and is not a real threat on draws. Well that is in my opinion from what i saw Saturday. He is a big guy that you better wrap up. Lufkin had several more sack opportunities but tried to knock him out instead of wrapping up. DE Penson had a clear shot at him in the 1st half and hit him very hard and knocked him back a few yards and Greg still stayed on his feet and threw the ball away. He saved his team a 15 yard loss on that play. Do not get me wrong he has some scrambling skills but he is not a big time threat to run. He is kind of like a Rothlesberger when he runs. He can get the job done rushing but it is not that pretty and he is not a game breaker while running the ball. But he sure is a gamebreaker in the pocket throwing the ball. Very accurate and a strong strong armYou are right. I agree. In High School a drop back passer with slow feet can get away with running now and then. Not so at the next level or two.

[Texas-Raised]

is riley dodge going to be able to fill in the big shoes of the last legacies of SLC QB'S???

[pack0808]

is riley dodge going to be able to fill in the big shoes of the last legacies of SLC QB'S???


He sure looked good in warm-ups and when he made a pass on a trick play. My guess is yes.

[insider]

is riley dodge going to be able to fill in the big shoes of the last legacies of SLC QB'S???

His daddy will probably make sure of it.

[Texas-Raised]

yeah i figured since his dads a genius he would be at least half way descent but u never know...

[Texas-Raised]

next year is a rebuilding year for ya'll correct?

[insider]

next year is a rebuilding year for ya'll correct?

The other teams in their district (assuming it stays somewhat similar to current) are sure hoping for them to be needing a bit of rebuilding - has been a poor two years for us...

[KT2000]

Based on what I've seen of Riley Dodge, he's tailor-made for Dad's system and will put up stupidly ridiculous numbers when he becomes the main man next year and year after if he's got good skill guys rising through the ranks with him.

[dragonfly]

is riley dodge going to be able to fill in the big shoes of the last legacies of SLC QB'S???

I think he is capable but I'm worried that he will not have near the weapons at receiver as the previous QBs. They will also have to find an entire offensive line after this year.

[Texas-Raised]

True but a good program should be able to still have a great seaon during a rebuliding season!

[Texas-Raised]

Based on what I've seen of Riley Dodge, he's tailor-made for Dad's system and will put up stupidly ridiculous numbers when he becomes the main man next year and year after if he's got good skill guys rising through the ranks with him.


Good point i agree. hopefully katy will get to play them next year with two junior quarterbacks going at it

[SLCDad]

True but a good program should be able to still have a great seaon during a rebuliding season!You are right so we'll see what happens to SLC next year. On the other hand, I don't recall EVER seeing a team with more seniors graduating than SLC has this year.

[WestlandTiger'95]

Look for more deep balls Saturday against the Tigers.
I really hope so!!! it will be an early christmas gift!!

[Texas-Raised]

You are right so we'll see what happens to SLC next year. On the other hand, I don't recall EVER seeing a team with more seniors graduating than SLC has this year.


well great what a challenge for you guys then lol;) ;) yall are expected to be good though coming off ranked in the nation #1...

[WestlandTiger'95]

You are right so we'll see what happens to SLC next year. On the other hand, I don't recall EVER seeing a team with more seniors graduating than SLC has this year.


i think we're able to compete in that stat too...lol
man we are probably the heaviest senior laden team katy has had in a long time. i sure will miss these guys....i hope its a long...long ...long game so i can enjoy watching them play one last time!!!!

thanks for a great four years of football seniors...love you guys!!!!

[dragonfootballfan]

Based on what I've seen of Riley Dodge, he's tailor-made for Dad's system and will put up stupidly ridiculous numbers when he becomes the main man next year and year after if he's got good skill guys rising through the ranks with him.
I agree that he will be good, but it is not the skill players that he is going to be dependent upon. It is going to be the offensive line. Right now they are going to replace all of their lineman next year with a group of almost all juniors to be.

[baldtiger15]

It is interesting to note, however, that the Katy QB (Andy Dalton) doesn't run all that much. That surprises me. Perhaps a Katy fan can shed some light on how the Katy rushing offense works and specifically why Dalton doesn't have more carries.
Dalton trusts his line, as a result they block hard for him and have gone 8 games this season without a sack. Forgive me I don't know the exact number in the 6 games where he was pulled down, pretty sure less than 10 on the season. He will sit, and sit, and sit in the pocket, then he can throw on the run or chunk it away. He just doesn't tuck the ball the way others do.

[drgnbkr]

next year is a rebuilding year for ya'll correct?

Like Katy..we call it reloading....:cool:

[FreshmanTiger]

I look forward to the two best teams in Texas playing.

As someone stated earlier I hope it is a long game so we can enjoy the game and watching the kids play. I also hope for a close game so everyone enjoys the game.:)

[Phoenixrising05]

Katy's ability to pass the ball is what scares me the most. I think some SLC fans are happy when they look at the stats and see that Katy is not the same smasth-mouth run-oriented team that beat the Dragons in 03. I for one would prefer that since it stacks well against the Dragon D this year. I think only Plano in the 1st half has been succesful in that department. I'm very confident that half-time adjustments would limit any single-dimension offense and contain Katys 03 run. What scares me is knowing that the team THIS year is able to pass the ball and scorch the Dragons secondary like Lufkin's backup QB. (Also no one mentions it, but Abilene's QB got several great ones off as well and moved the ball with ease mid-field).

[Favpack]

He sure looked good in warm-ups and when he made a pass on a trick play. My guess is yes.

Amen - speed kills and Riley will have a plenty strong arm. He and Tre could make everyone forget about those other players. A real shame he may be playing for Katy next year:p :eek:

[dragonsdaddy]

last year's abilene graduated 18 starters i believe, so they were at least as sr laden as either kt or slc.