15 yr old girl beaten by cops

[rocketgrl94]

http://abcnews.go.com/US/WireStory?id=6979459&page=1

[yankee]

cops are the worst people alive. every one of them is corrupt. we get it. go away. :rolleyes:

[F18mustang]

Owned.

[rocketgrl94]

cops are the worst people alive. every one of them is corrupt. we get it. go away. :rolleyes:

nope didnt say that move on!

[ktCarl]

nope didnt say that move on!

That wasn't you getting roughed up in the video was it? If it was then HANG the copper!!!

[BDB]

http://abcnews.go.com/US/WireStory?id=6979459&page=1

shhhhhh the world is perfect. don't mess with these people's minds like this.

first matt2k had to confuze them with his story, now this?

yall are bad people.

[rocketgrl94]

That wasn't you getting roughed up in the video was it? If it was then HANG the copper!!!

no, im not 15 but thank you Carl!:D

[yankee]

honestly it didn't look that rough...she probably enjoyed it. just a man asserting himself over the *****.

[rocketgrl94]

shhhhhh the world is perfect. Don't mess with these people's minds like this.

First matt2k had to confuze them with his story, now this?

Yall are bad people.

:d:d

[F18mustang]

honestly it didn't look that rough...she probably enjoyed it. just a man asserting himself over the *****.

:laugh

[F18mustang]

:d:d

Stop trying to pick your nose with your tongue. Not Attractive.

[rocketgrl94]

Stop trying to pick your nose with your tongue. Not Attractive.

ok let me stop!:rolleyes:

[RocklandDragon]

http://abcnews.go.com/US/WireStory?id=6979459&page=1

It was um....just a little excessive force...

just a little...

Her imposing bodyfame easily dwarfed over the officer and all he could do was throw her down by her hair and lay in a couple of good ones.

Not really? :confused:

[slorch]

4th degree assault?

the cop should be punished for using nonexcessive force;)

[F18mustang]

Moral of the story: Don't kick your shoe at a police officer.

[RocklandDragon]

The main problem is see is that if she was really guilty of committing a crime of car theft is now going to be overlooked or dismissed because of the officer not acting professional.

I ain't gonna lie...the girl was probably mouthing off and yes she did kick her shoe towards the officer. Still no excuse for him being that aggressive on a teenage girl.

[BDB]

The main problem is see is that if she was really guilty of committing a crime of car theft is now going to be overlooked or dismissed because of the officer not acting professional. they'll prolly drop her charges to get the officer off, which is stupid. she needs to get hers

I ain't gonna lie...the girl was probably mouthing off and yes she did kick her shoe towards the officer. Still no excuse for him being that aggressive on a teenage girl.it was excessive for a woman. if it was a man, i wouldn't be complaing....well if it was a 15 year old i might still be.


"can't we all just get along?"

[slorch]

The main problem is see is that if she was really guilty of committing a crime of car theft is now going to be overlooked or dismissed because of the officer not acting professional.

I ain't gonna lie...the girl was probably mouthing off and yes she did kick her shoe towards the officer. Still no excuse for him being that aggressive on a teenage girl.

and we all have perfect days at our jobs...

put yourself in his SHOES...;)

[RocklandDragon]

and we all have perfect days at our jobs...

put yourself in his SHOES...;)

No need to put myself in his shoes for we most likely have all had bad days at work or stressed out. His job is of a higher-profile and put it this way...if me and another individual get in a fight, I'm likely fired, right? Customer cusses me out because of their bad day. (Yes...that has happened before.) I can just go across the counter and knock them the fu** out. My a** is in jail...

Sorry...you have to restrain yourself. Bad day or not, you just have to do it otherwise if you let your emotions get the best of you, bad consequences will follow.

[rocketgrl94]

No need to put myself in his shoes for we most likely have all had bad days at work or stressed out. His job is of a higher-profile and put it this way...if me and another individual get in a fight, I'm likely fired, right? Customer cusses me out because of their bad day. (Yes...that has happened before.) I can just go across the counter and knock them the fu** out. My a** is in jail...

Sorry...you have to restrain yourself. Bad day or not, you just have to do it otherwise if you let your emotions get the best of you, bad consequences will follow.

i agree

[yankee]

Moral of the story: Don't kick your shoe at a police officer.

hahahaha. this.

[slorch]

No need to put myself in his shoes for we most likely have all had bad days at work or stressed out. His job is of a higher-profile and put it this way...if me and another individual get in a fight, I'm likely fired, right? Customer cusses me out because of their bad day. (Yes...that has happened before.) I can just go across the counter and knock them the fu** out. My a** is in jail...

Sorry...you have to restrain yourself. Bad day or not, you just have to do it otherwise if you let your emotions get the best of you, bad consequences will follow.

you saw the little winky emoticon, right?

[RocklandDragon]

you saw the little winky emoticon, right?

Oops! My fault. :D :D

Been on this board for years and sometimes even sarcasm gets past me...damn.

:p

[stevefoxsc]

let me quote gOoWls before he gets in here

shes black she deserved it cops are always right obamas the great satan you're all liberals

[slorch]

nm

[ktCarl]

let me quote gOoWls before he gets in here

It looks like she is white. :confused:

I think the cop went way overboard in the treatment he made to that girl. I also think people tend to forget that those guys/gals behind the uniform are humans that are prone to human error. No telling what crap he had to deal with all day or what he had to deal with from that girl that wasn't captured on film. Have someone poke you in the eye, slap your face, shoot at you and at the end of the day you too might snap. Just hope it doesn't get caught on film.

[slorch]

It looks like she is white. :confused:

I think the cop went way overboard in the treatment he made to that girl. I also think people tend to forget that those guys/gals behind the uniform are humans that are prone to human error. No telling what crap he had to deal with all day or what he had to deal with from that girl that wasn't captured on film. Have someone poke you in the eye, slap your face, shoot at you and at the end of the day you too might snap. Just hope it doesn't get caught on film.

IF she's white, there goes any ACLU backing she may have had...;):rolleyes:

[ktCarl]

IF she's white, there goes any ACLU backing she may have had...;):rolleyes:

But she was a 15 yr old girl. I think he's in big trouble.

[slorch]

But she was a 15 yr old girl. I think he's in big trouble.

because if you're 15, you should be able to throw your shoes at just about anyone.

signed,
Iraqi journalists

[Slim-Rob]

She deserved it. Sorry but she's being investigated for auto theft? And is talking back, not cooperating, and throwing her shoes at officers? Then, when she was pinned she would not put her hand behind her back. Maybe a little excessive, but thats too bad for her.

Obey the law and cooperate with police and you will be good

[slorch]

She deserved it. Sorry but she's being investigated for auto theft? And is talking back, not cooperating, and throwing her shoes at officers? Then, when she was pinned she would not put her hand behind her back. Maybe a little excessive, but thats too bad for her.

Obey the law and cooperate with police and you will be good

no. What &^%$#%^ planet are you from?

the police should politely inquire for her to comply at her convenience.

signed,
people that blame cops for everything

[Slim-Rob]

no. What &^%$#%^ planet are you from?

the police should politely inquire for her to comply at her convenience.

signed,
people that blame cops for everything

lol


well seeing how we only know a short video of what really happened, we don't know how much of a problem she was before that happened.

[nikkit12]

Actually we do know what happened, she kicked a shoe at him. He is an officer who is much bigger and stronger than the girl. There is no way in hell that he sould have treated her like that. It was excessive and we all know that, he should go to jail just like she should.

[slorch]

Actually we do know what happened, she kicked a shoe at him.

stop there, and you're good.

[JMSFan]

because if you're 15, you should be able to throw your shoes at just about anyone.

signed,
Iraqi journalists

If the cop had quick reflexes like George Bush did, then maybe he doesnt get so mad.

[BDB]

Actually we do know what happened, she kicked a shoe at him. He is an officer who is much bigger and stronger than the girl. There is no way in hell that he sould have treated her like that. It was excessive and we all know that, he should go to jail just like she should.

agreed. kicking her shoe at him was dumb, but there's no reason for the amount of force he used.

[svhorns]

Personally if a girl kicked a shoe at me... I'd make her eat it and wash it down with a nice glass of raccoon diarrhea.

[Slim-Rob]

No you know what happened in the video. You don't know what kind of troubles she gave police when she was arrested. You don't know what was said while she was standing in the doorway, nor what was said to the officer by her before she go to that cell. She wasn't hit in the face, nor did she have any broken bones. It was hard for her to breath after. She probably go the wind knocked out of her. Sorry but you don't :Censor: with the police.

[stevefoxsc]

lol some of you are the same people that sat there and said it was wrong for Chris brown to hit Rhianna.


Now in some essence the same thing happens and its alright? Pot meet kettle

[svhorns]

lol some of you are the same people that sat there and said it was wrong for Chris brown to hit Rhianna.


Now in some essence the same thing happens and its alright? Pot meet kettle

I was kidding about making her eat the shoe and washing it down with a glass of raccoon diarrhea. If you're a grown man and have to use that much force to take down a 15 year old girl than you got a vajayjay between your legs.

[Slim-Rob]

lol some of you are the same people that sat there and said it was wrong for Chris brown to hit Rhianna.


Now in some essence the same thing happens and its alright? Pot meet kettle

lol, Rhianna deserved it too. Na jk.

In both cases it shouldn't have happened. But which is worse? The police officer or Chris Brown? I'd say Chris Brown. The cop went too far in subduing her, but Chris Brown shouldn't have touched her.

[slorch]

lol some of you are the same people that sat there and said it was wrong for Chris brown to hit Rhianna.


Now in some essence the same thing happens and its alright? Pot meet kettle

Domestic dispute is completely different from someone acting afool towards the cops.

I love the line in "Liar, Liar!" when Jim Carrey's client claims he doesn't want to go back to jail, and the truth-stricken attorney exclaims, "Quit breaking the law!"

No way the kid has any issues if she's "yes, sir,"; "No, sir," all the way through the process, and the cop has every right to expect a basic level of respect.

[rwilleby]

Excessive force... That's not right...

[rocketgrl94]

uhh yeah that was a little bit excessive to me too...looks like she threw off her shoe on the floor not in his face or anything...and for bad mouthing a cop... she still doesnt deserve that kind of treatment or anybody else for that matter...thats just words words will never hurt u....PHYSICALLY

[okt0ber]

The main problem is see is that if she was really guilty of committing a crime of car theft is now going to be overlooked or dismissed because of the officer not acting professional.

I ain't gonna lie...the girl was probably mouthing off and yes she did kick her shoe towards the officer. Still no excuse for him being that aggressive on a teenage girl.


Uh, yeah it was. If the little :Censor: was going to throw shoes and run her mouth then she deserves what she should have been getting from her parents years prior to this little incident.

What you don't see is the events that took place prior to the short video. I bet she was biting, kicking, and being very violent.

I don't feel bad for her. We have become soft on crime.

[okt0ber]

Domestic dispute is completely different from someone acting afool towards the cops.

I love the line in "Liar, Liar!" when Jim Carrey's client claims he doesn't want to go back to jail, and the truth-stricken attorney exclaims, "Quit breaking the law!"

No way the kid has any issues if she's "yes, sir,"; "No, sir," all the way through the process, and the cop has every right to expect a basic level of respect.


We've agreed on two subjects the past two weeks. Something is wrong with my head. :D

[rocketgrl94]

Uh, yeah it was. If the little :Censor: was going to throw shoes and run her mouth then she deserves what she should have been getting from her parents years prior to this little incident.

What you don't see is the events that took place prior to the short video. I bet she was biting, kicking, and being very violent.

I don't feel bad for her. We have become soft on crime.

im pretty sure he's stronger then her:rolleyes:...sooo he could of used handcuffs, (shackles) to subdue her or use a taser....hitting her on the ground and pushing her against the wall like that is really not that necessary

[Firebird]

Domestic dispute is completely different from someone acting afool towards the cops.

I love the line in "Liar, Liar!" when Jim Carrey's client claims he doesn't want to go back to jail, and the truth-stricken attorney exclaims, "Quit breaking the law!"

No way the kid has any issues if she's "yes, sir,"; "No, sir," all the way through the process, and the cop has every right to expect a basic level of respect.

If remember one time my younger sister got furious with my father her freshman year of high school when he refused to let her go on a date with a young man who had serious trust issues. She screamed at him, cursed, and was completely disrespectful. Had he responded in any way like the officer on that video, I would have called the police to have him arrested.

Before I went back to school I substitute taught. I had 15 year old smart :Censor: talk back to me all the time, curse me, whatever. I felt the urge to react that way, but never did. I knew that as the person with authority I had to control myself, even when provoked by punks.

Everyone has the "right" to expect a basic level of respect. We don't always get it, but an action that would land me in the clink is just as wrong for a police officer. He has a right to use force to restrain her, to arrest her, to prevent her from being a threat to others. He has no right to use extreme force to shut her mouth.

There is simply no justification for what happened on the video. She posed no threat to the officers safety. She did not make a move to leave her cell. Police officers are given great authority and responsibility and this one failed to use it judiciously.

[rocketgrl94]

If remember one time my younger sister got furious with my father her freshman year of high school when he refused to let her go on a date with a young man who had serious trust issues. She screamed at him, cursed, and was completely disrespectful. Had he responded in any way like the officer on that video, I would have called the police to have him arrested.

Before I went back to school I substitute taught. I had 15 year old smart :Censor: talk back to me all the time, curse me, whatever. I felt the urge to react that way, but never did. I knew that as the person with authority I had to control myself, even when provoked by punks.

Everyone has the "right" to expect a basic level of respect. We don't always get it, but an action that would land me in the clink is just as wrong for a police officer. He has a right to use force to restrain her, to arrest her, to prevent her from being a threat to others. He has no right to use extreme force to shut her mouth.

There is simply no justification for what happened on the video. She posed no threat to the officers safety. She did not make a move to leave her cell. Police officers are given great authority and responsibility and this one failed to use it judiciously.

:notworthy thank u and good post!

[ktCarl]

If remember one time my younger sister got furious with my father her freshman year of high school when he refused to let her go on a date with a young man who had serious trust issues. She screamed at him, cursed, and was completely disrespectful. Had he responded in any way like the officer on that video, I would have called the police to have him arrested.

Before I went back to school I substitute taught. I had 15 year old smart :Censor: talk back to me all the time, curse me, whatever. I felt the urge to react that way, but never did. I knew that as the person with authority I had to control myself, even when provoked by punks. You forgot to mention the 15 yr old was bigger than you. :D

Everyone has the "right" to expect a basic level of respect. We don't always get it, but an action that would land me in the clink is just as wrong for a police officer. He has a right to use force to restrain her, to arrest her, to prevent her from being a threat to others. He has no right to use extreme force to shut her mouth. Agree.

There is simply no justification for what happened on the video. She posed no threat to the officers safety. She did not make a move to leave her cell. Police officers are given great authority and responsibility and this one failed to use it judiciously.

It would sure help matters if people that break the law would show more respect for those paid to enforce the law. I think I just said a funny. How would a person that comitted a crime react to a police officer..respectfully?

[slorch]

If remember one time my younger sister got furious with my father her freshman year of high school when he refused to let her go on a date with a young man who had serious trust issues. She screamed at him, cursed, and was completely disrespectful. Had he responded in any way like the officer on that video, I would have called the police to have him arrested.

Before I went back to school I substitute taught. I had 15 year old smart :Censor: talk back to me all the time, curse me, whatever. I felt the urge to react that way, but never did. I knew that as the person with authority I had to control myself, even when provoked by punks.

Everyone has the "right" to expect a basic level of respect. We don't always get it, but an action that would land me in the clink is just as wrong for a police officer. He has a right to use force to restrain her, to arrest her, to prevent her from being a threat to others. He has no right to use extreme force to shut her mouth.

There is simply no justification for what happened on the video. She posed no threat to the officers safety. She did not make a move to leave her cell. Police officers are given great authority and responsibility and this one failed to use it judiciously.

assault on a police officer is a crime right? she was doing more than running her mouth...

I'll put up my methods of discipline and corrective techniques with anybody. our kids see what some other kids do to their parents and just roll their eyes and laugh about the hell they would catch at our house. We are constantly inundated with compliments about our kids' behavior, and it will stay that way because it is the expectation.

I understand this is a jail and not my house, but I am simply addressing your own anecdotal account in that tough love can be, and in fact is, a very effective teaching tool. my kids would never throw a shoe at a cop, not because of fear of anything that would happen at jail, but out of respect for me and their mother. That's the biggest travesty in today's society- too many folkks think showing respect is a sign of weakness, when in reality, it is a demonstration of strength.

[Firebird]

assault on a police officer is a crime right? she was doing more than running her mouth...

I'll put up my methods of discipline and corrective techniques with anybody. our kids see what some other kids do to their parents and just roll their eyes and laugh about the hell they would catch at our house. We are constantly inundated with compliments about our kids' behavior, and it will stay that way because it is the expectation.

I understand this is a jail and not my house, but I am simply addressing your own anecdotal account in that tough love can be, and in fact is, a very effective teaching tool. my kids would never throw a shoe at a cop, not because of fear of anything that would happen at jail, but out of respect for me and their mother. That's the biggest travesty in today's society- too many folkks think showing respect is a sign of weakness, when in reality, it is a demonstration of strength.


Tough love= smacking a teenager's head against the wall/floor?

Question-- would you ever do what that officer did to your child, even if s/he kicked a shoe at you? Would you do it in public?

[JMSFan]

assault on a police officer is a crime right? she was doing more than running her mouth...

I'll put up my methods of discipline and corrective techniques with anybody. our kids see what some other kids do to their parents and just roll their eyes and laugh about the hell they would catch at our house. We are constantly inundated with compliments about our kids' behavior, and it will stay that way because it is the expectation.

I understand this is a jail and not my house, but I am simply addressing your own anecdotal account in that tough love can be, and in fact is, a very effective teaching tool. my kids would never throw a shoe at a cop, not because of fear of anything that would happen at jail, but out of respect for me and their mother. That's the biggest travesty in today's society- too many folkks think showing respect is a sign of weakness, when in reality, it is a demonstration of strength.

Would you stand there and say the same things if an officer ever done this to your child?
There is NO excuse for what he did to her. None whatsoever.

[rocketgrl94]

Would you stand there and say the same things if an officer ever done this to your child?
There is NO excuse for what he did to her. None whatsoever.

THEY are the police they can do whatever the hell they wanna do!:rolleyes:(sarcasam);)

[JMSFan]

THEY are the police they can do whatever the hell they wanna do!:rolleyes:(sarcasam);)

And we should just stand there and say "yes sir" and "no sir" to them. :rolleyes:

[RedRage00]

This married cop won't leave me alone.

Does that count as abuse? Harrassment? :confused:

I know I look good, but damn lol

[rocketgrl94]

And we should just stand there and say "yes sir" and "no sir" to them. :rolleyes:

nope, i sure the hell dont...especially when i worked at a restaurant im suppose to give them 50% when i work for the damn place, i only get 30%?! i didnt give them s:Censor:t...i had somebody else ring it up cuz i didnt believe in that at all...damn im going all off track:D

[rocketgrl94]

This married cop won't leave me alone.

Does that count as abuse? Harrassment? :confused:

I know I look good, but damn lol

u got a STALKER huh?:D

[JMSFan]

nope, i sure the hell dont...especially when i worked at a restaurant im suppose to give them 50% when i work for the damn place, i only get 30%?! i didnt give them s:Censor:t...i had somebody else ring it up cuz i didnt believe in that at all...damn im going all off track:D

Yea, you went on a rant there. :D

[rocketgrl94]

Yea, you went on a rant there. :D

i know sorry it just pisses me off!:D

[stevefoxsc]

i agree with my counter part rw force was excessive.

Its no difference than self defense there are limits, all he had to really was walk in and cuff her honestly she couldn't out match him in power.


Other then that i think the guy has anger management problems does say he was investigated.

[RedRage00]

I just watched the video and wow is all I can say to that.

[rocketgrl94]

I just watched the video and wow is all I can say to that.

so u agree pretty excessive... right?

[RedRage00]

so u agree pretty excessive... right?

Yeah, she casually like flipped her shoe at him. The guy who threw the shoes at Bush threw the shoes a lot harder.

But yeah, cops can't do no wrong. Remember?

[rocketgrl94]

Yeah, she casually like flipped her shoe at him. The guy who threw the shoes at Bush threw the shoes a lot harder.

But yeah, cops can't do no wrong. Remember?

yeah i said that earlier..not like she picked up the shoe and threw it in his face
and yes i remember cops cannot do know wrong... i believe that:rolleyes:

[yankee]

yeah i said that earlier..not like she picked up the shoe and threw it in his face
and yes i remember cops cannot do know wrong... i believe that:rolleyes:

there are bad cops out there, no doubt. to say there are no corrupt or bad cops is naive.

but i hate it that cops are always the bad guys. the **** they put up with is rediculous and often goes ignored by people. they serve and protect. what this guy did was obviously excessive and is wrong and it's a shame that everything he's done up till now will be forgotten because of one security camera and the internet.

[Firebird]

there are bad cops out there, no doubt. to say there are no corrupt or bad cops is naive.

but i hate it that cops are always the bad guys. the **** they put up with is rediculous and often goes ignored by people. they serve and protect. what this guy did was obviously excessive and is wrong and it's a shame that everything he's done up till now will be forgotten because he couldn't control his anger and he chose to beat down a 15 year old girl.

FIFY.

Whatever happened to the personal responsibilty meme?

[yankee]

FIFY.

Whatever happened to the personal responsibilty meme?

where did i say this guy shouldn't be held accountable? what he did was wrong.

[Firebird]

Would you stand there and say the same things if an officer ever done this to your child?
There is NO excuse for what he did to her. None whatsoever.

Any man--- dad, uncle, grandpa, cop---who could do that to a 15 year old girl is not a man. Period. No matter what she says, no matter what she's doing. The only excuse to do something even similar than that to a 15 year old girl would be to prevent the immediate threat of harming herself or others. No, kicking a tennis shoe and standing there afterwards is not an immediate threat of harm.

Simply no excuse at all. I am having a hard time understanding what sort of "tough love" slorch is advocating towards teenaged girls if this is the sort of thing he's justifying.

[Firebird]

where did i say this guy shouldn't be held accountable? what he did was wrong.

Your post gave the impression that if not for the intertubes and the video, this could all be brushed under the rug. My response is that there would be nothing to brush under the rug if the officer in question had the capability to maintain a modicum of self control.

[rocketgrl94]

there are bad cops out there, no doubt. to say there are no corrupt or bad cops is naive.

but i hate it that cops are always the bad guys. the **** they put up with is rediculous and often goes ignored by people. they serve and protect. what this guy did was obviously excessive and is wrong and it's a shame that everything he's done up till now will be forgotten because of one security camera and the internet.

of course he might have done some good things no doubt, but u know the "eye" in the sky is watching soo if you're caught doin' bad especially cops its just damn stupid on his part and he deserved to be exposed maybe he'll do it again, maybe not .....and yes police are here to Protect and Serve but not to Protect and Serve u a can of Whoop @ss like that....especially a girl

[rwilleby]

I don't see how anyone could say it was anything but the wrong way to handle the situation... If it had been in public and she was some type of threat, maybe some of it... Maybe... Punching her while she was down and picking her up by her hair was just flat wrong... Hell, she was already in custody, just shut the door... Not a manly way to act at all... With power comes responsibility...

[JMSFan]

Any man--- dad, uncle, grandpa, cop---who could do that to a 15 year old girl is not a man. Period. No matter what she says, no matter what she's doing. The only excuse to do something even similar than that to a 15 year old girl would be to prevent the immediate threat of harming herself or others. No, kicking a tennis shoe and standing there afterwards is not an immediate threat of harm.

Simply no excuse at all. I am having a hard time understanding what sort of "tough love" slorch is advocating towards teenaged girls if this is the sort of thing he's justifying.

I agree completely. He is not a man at all.

[yankee]

Your post gave the impression that if not for the intertubes and the video, this could all be brushed under the rug. My response is that there would be nothing to brush under the rug if the officer in question had the capability to maintain a modicum of self control.

no, i've gotten the impression from some of the posts in this thread that this isn't a surprise that a cop did this...what they do shouldn't be forgotten and they get a bad rap from isolated events like this. what he did was wrong, that's not in question. calm down, commie.

[slorch]

Any man--- dad, uncle, grandpa, cop---who could do that to a 15 year old girl is not a man. Period. No matter what she says, no matter what she's doing. The only excuse to do something even similar than that to a 15 year old girl would be to prevent the immediate threat of harming herself or others. No, kicking a tennis shoe and standing there afterwards is not an immediate threat of harm.

Simply no excuse at all. I am having a hard time understanding what sort of "tough love" slorch is advocating towards teenaged girls if this is the sort of thing he's justifying.

I know. So do a lot of folks. that's why we have a bunch of wimps and punks in our country...

in all honesty it isn't the cop's job to teach her. it's the responsibility of her parents, who obviously missed that boat already judging by her actions.

was the cop out of line? yeah.

Do i feel sorry for her? More for what she's missing at home than for anything in that video.

[ktCarl]

there are bad cops out there, no doubt. to say there are no corrupt or bad cops is naive.



Or to say they are ALL corrupt.

[Slim-Rob]

It was excessive, but stop saying she was beaten. Can you see where he was hitting her? Looked like he was trying to get her arms behind her back. He shouldn't have been hitting her, but then again she shouldn't have been there to begin with.

Honestly. Criminals get what they deserve. Yes she's just a 15 year old girl (who only stole a car). Big whoop right?

[JMSFan]

It was excessive, but stop saying she was beaten. Can you see where he was hitting her? Looked like he was trying to get her arms behind her back. He shouldn't have been hitting her, but then again she shouldn't have been there to begin with.

Honestly. Criminals get what they deserve. Yes she's just a 15 year old girl (who only stole a car). Big whoop right?

Rocket, all the cop had to do was shut the door to that room, walk away, and cool down before he tried to deal with her again.
You seen the video, he throws at least 4 punches and slams her hard against the wall and the floor. 2 of those 4 punches came after he had her pinned down.

[BDB]

I know. So do a lot of folks. that's why we have a bunch of wimps and punks in our country...
.

yup. a bunch of wimps who punchout a 15 year old girl for tossing a shoe at someone. talk about being a wimp, he can't even try to get the coughs on when she's standing with one shoe on.

honestly, sclorch, this one is tough to swallow. there's no way you can stick up for this guy.

[yankee]

this guy clearly did nothing wrong. what's the big deal?

[BDB]

this guy clearly did nothing wrong. what's the big deal?

http://www.failfunnies.com/22/images/fishing-for-fail.jpg

[yankee]

http://www.failfunnies.com/22/images/fishing-for-fail.jpg

i'd catch a fish.

[BDB]

i'd catch a fish.

in this situation? you prolly will....people are dumb.

[slorch]

yup. a bunch of wimps who punchout a 15 year old girl for tossing a shoe at someone. talk about being a wimp, he can't even try to get the coughs on when she's standing with one shoe on.

honestly, sclorch, this one is tough to swallow. there's no way you can stick up for this guy.

and there's no way to stick up for the way some people act towards the police, either.

[BDB]

and there's no way to stick up for the way some people act towards the police, either.

good thing this thread is only about this one officer....who is a *****.

[RedRage00]

good thing this thread is only about this one officer....who is a *****.

The girl just casually like flipped her shoe off, yet you still have some people defending him. I'm not surprised by the ones that are. :rolleyes:

[ktCarl]

The girl just casually like flipped her shoe off, yet you still have some people defending him. I'm not surprised by the ones that are. :rolleyes:

Who is defending the officer that 'attacked' the 15 yr old girl?

[rocketgrl94]

assault on a police officer is a crime right? she was doing more than running her mouth...

I'll put up my methods of discipline and corrective techniques with anybody. our kids see what some other kids do to their parents and just roll their eyes and laugh about the hell they would catch at our house. We are constantly inundated with compliments about our kids' behavior, and it will stay that way because it is the expectation.

I understand this is a jail and not my house, but I am simply addressing your own anecdotal account in that tough love can be, and in fact is, a very effective teaching tool. my kids would never throw a shoe at a cop, not because of fear of anything that would happen at jail, but out of respect for me and their mother. That's the biggest travesty in today's society- too many folkks think showing respect is a sign of weakness, when in reality, it is a demonstration of strength.

she DID NOT THROW the shoe at the cop may have flipped it off her foot...didnt even look like it reached him

[F18mustang]

Tim Tebow would catch a fish.

fify

[Slim-Rob]

she DID NOT THROW the shoe at the cop may have flipped it off her foot...didnt even look like it reached him

Thats not the point. She did not follow directions, disobeyed orders from law enforcement, and disrespected a police officer to his face. Yes he took it over the line, but she deserved it.

[rocketgrl94]

Thats not the point. She did not follow directions, disobeyed orders from law enforcement, and disrespected a police officer to his face. Yes he took it over the line, but she deserved it.

i know that's not the point...i said what i thought on the issue...and no she didnt deserve THAT kind of treatment...again she was down on the floor all he had to do was handcuff her not punch her in the damn head and slam her face in the wall

[Slim-Rob]

i know that's not the point...i said what i thought on the issue...and no she didnt deserve THAT kind of treatment...again she was down on the floor all he had to do was handcuff her not punch her in the damn head and slam her face in the wall

He didn't punch her in the head rocketgrl. Look at the video. He is trying to get her hand behind her back, she was resisting. If he had been hitting her in the back of the head she would have injured her nose as it was pointed into the ground. Her only injury was that she was hard of breathing afterwards?

Everyone is saying how much bigger he is than her, and how much force he used. Wouldn't she have some injuries if he was really hitting her in the head?


The part of the video that I thought was excessive was picking her up by the hair. When he rushed her, she struck out with her hands. Big no no.

[rocketgrl94]

He didn't punch her in the head rocketgrl. Look at the video. He is trying to get her hand behind her back, she was resisting. If he had been hitting her in the back of the head she would have injured her nose as it was pointed into the ground. Her only injury was that she was hard of breathing afterwards?

Everyone is saying how much bigger he is than her, and how much force he used. Wouldn't she have some injuries if he was really hitting her in the head?


The part of the video that I thought was excessive was picking her up by the hair. When he rushed her, she struck out with her hands. Big no no.

that looks like 2 blows to me @ about 10-11 seconds left of the video

[Slim-Rob]

that looks like 2 blows to me @ about 10-11 seconds left of the video

into the arm to bend it. Wheres the bruises or bloody nose or black eye on her face? some part of her face would have been hitting the concrete when he was punching her in the back of the head.

[rocketgrl94]

into the arm to bend it. Wheres the bruises or bloody nose or black eye on her face? some part of her face would have been hitting the concrete when he was punching her in the back of the head.

i dont think they ever showed photos of her sooo we dont know

[slorch]

The girl just casually like flipped her shoe off, yet you still have some people defending him. I'm not surprised by the ones that are. :rolleyes:

because the video captured EVERYTHING that was going on...:rolleyes:

[slorch]

she DID NOT THROW the shoe at the cop may have flipped it off her foot...didnt even look like it reached him

semantics.

Do you seriously believe that's all she did?

get real.

[Slim-Rob]

i dont think they ever showed photos of her sooo we dont know


If the news report was so keen on making the cop look bad for beating her they would have said she had a black eye or bruises, instead of saying she had trouble breathing.

Read the article.

[rocketgrl94]

semantics.

Do you seriously believe that's all she did?

get real.

no but seriously she did not deserve ALL that

[Slim-Rob]

semantics.

Do you seriously believe that's all she did?

get real.

She looked like she was running her mouth too. Standing there all cocky looking with her arms crossed.

[RedRage00]

because the video captured EVERYTHING that was going on...:rolleyes:

Well, it didn't look like she did anything but flip her shoe off to me. Maybe you saw a different video. And its not like they were in public arresting her and not knowing if she had a weapon or anything. She was already detained and I assumed was already searched. Like everyone else has said....all they had to do was close the door.

[Slim-Rob]

Well, it didn't look like she did anything but flip her shoe off to me. Maybe you saw a different video. And its not like they were in public arresting her and not knowing if she had a weapon or anything. She was already detained and I assumed was already searched. Like everyone else has said....all they had to do was close the door.

And like it has been repeated in this thread multiple times already, the video only shows once she is in the cell. What happened when she was detained. Did she run from the cops then? There is no audio, you don't know what she was saying to the officers while kicking off her shoe.

[rocketgrl94]

And like it has been repeated in this thread multiple times already, the video only shows once she is in the cell. What happened when she was detained. Did she run from the cops then? There is no audio, you don't know what she was saying to the officers while kicking off her shoe.

who cares what she said?...he still didnt have to do her like that

[rwilleby]

In custody... In the room... Close the door... Problem solved...

That would have been the manly thing to do... also the right thing to do for an officer of the law... I would be extremely disappointed if my son were to act in that manner... Where force is required, force should be applied without question...

So, here's a question for you... They were taking her to the holding room but then took her out after her assault... Why...

[RedRage00]

And like it has been repeated in this thread multiple times already, the video only shows once she is in the cell. What happened when she was detained. Did she run from the cops then? There is no audio, you don't know what she was saying to the officers while kicking off her shoe.

So if she ran from the cops earlier that is an excuse to beat her down LATER? If she ran from the cops EARLIER then they have the authority to take her down while that was happening. Not later in the cell.

Why does it matter what she was saying to the cop? Because words hurt LOL

Them's fightin' words lol

[rocketgrl94]

So if she ran from the cops earlier that is an excuse to beat her down LATER? If she ran from the cops EARLIER then they have the authority to take her down while that was happening. Not later in the cell.

Why does it matter what she was saying to the cop? Because words hurt LOL

Them's fightin' words lol

:laugh

[RedRage00]

In custody... In the room... Close the door... Problem solved...

That would have been the manly thing to do... also the right thing to do for an officer of the law... I would be extremely disappointed if my son were to act in that manner... Where force is required, force should be applied without question...

So, here's a question for you... They were taking her to the holding room but then took her out after her assault... Why...

I have to agree with my Mac buddy here. :D

[RedRage00]

:laugh

That is exactly what I would have done. I would have laughed at the girl and closed the door. That would have pissed her off more.

[rocketgrl94]

That is exactly what I would have done. I would have laughed at the girl and closed the door. That would have pissed her off more.

yep laugh it off and move on

[Slim-Rob]

I'm not saying they cop should have beat her, but i did not witness a beating. The title said he kicked her? where? Why are there no bruises on this girl? No broken ribs, no broken bones, no broken nose, nothing.

This was not a beating. It was excessive force by the officer, yes, but NOT a beating.

And BTW it does matter if she was resisting earlier or running.

[JMSFan]

I'm not saying they cop should have beat her, but i did not witness a beating. The title said he kicked her? where? Why are there no bruises on this girl? No broken ribs, no broken bones, no broken nose, nothing.

This was not a beating. It was excessive force by the officer, yes, but NOT a beating.

And BTW it does matter if she was resisting earlier or running.

So Im a grown man, and then I guess from here on out if some 15 year old kid talks back to me,or is disrespectful, then I can slam them against a wall, drag them by the hair, just as long as I dont break their bones or nose.
(sarcasm)

[slorch]

Well, it didn't look like she did anything but flip her shoe off to me. Maybe you saw a different video. And its not like they were in public arresting her and not knowing if she had a weapon or anything. She was already detained and I assumed was already searched. Like everyone else has said....all she had to do was STFU.

better.

[slorch]

That is exactly what I would have done. I would have laughed at the girl and closed the door. That would have pissed her off more.

you insensitive bastardito...:eek:

[Firebird]

Sometimes, you just gotta slap a :Censor: around to teach her a little respect and get her to shut her damn mouth

FIFY to say what you really mean.

[slorch]

FIFY to say what you really mean.

we all have different ideas on corrective action for assault.

i already said the guy went over the line.

Both parties' lack of control got them into situations they couldn't handle. only difference is that the offender already had nothing to lose. Both acts are dispicable and unacceptable in my book.

[okt0ber]

im pretty sure he's stronger then her:rolleyes:...sooo he could of used handcuffs, (shackles) to subdue her or use a taser....hitting her on the ground and pushing her against the wall like that is really not that necessary

What lesson does that teach? She needs to be scared to death of being arrested so she doesn't break anymore laws. That's why is called the Dept of CORRECTIONS.

[mad_fan]

I've met plenty of 15 year olds that needed a beating...

[slorch]

What lesson does that teach? She needs to be scared to death of being arrested so she doesn't break anymore laws. That's why is called the Dept of CORRECTIONS.

I think you meant to say Law Enforcement...

Dept of Corrections is for offenders that have been convicted of a crime...

[mad_fan]

I think you meant to say Law Enforcement...

Dept of Corrections is for offenders that have been convicted of a crime...

...and the innocent...convicted of a crime...

[slorch]

...and the innocent...convicted of a crime...

I heard yesterday on a local Houston talk show that the state of Texas has had something like 41 exonerations. When you look at the number of folks we have in our own Dept of Corrections, that's astounding.

Granted, one is too many, I will not dispute that. Then there's a crowd( mostly younger and inexperienced in life) on here that would have you to believe a lot more folks have been treated bad and wrongly convicted, when in fact the perp did commit the crime.

[okt0ber]

I think you meant to say Law Enforcement...

Dept of Corrections is for offenders that have been convicted of a crime...

"Tomato, Tomawto". She was still in the jail... I stand by my answer none the less.

[slorch]

"Tomato, Tomawto". She was still in the jail... I stand by my answer none the less.

Police officer=/= corrections officer

[okt0ber]

I heard yesterday on a local Houston talk show that the state of Texas has had something like 41 exonerations. When you look at the number of folks we have in our own Dept of Corrections, that's astounding.

Granted, one is too many, I will not dispute that. Then there's a crowd( mostly younger and inexperienced in life) on here that would have you to believe a lot more folks have been treated bad and wrongly convicted, when in fact the perp did commit the crime.

I'm in the group supporting shorter but "harder" time.

Put them to work and lets get something for that tax money we're spending on them.

[okt0ber]

Police officer=/= corrections officer

I'm well aware of the differences. I have a big family of both. They both babysit the public in some form or another. The goal is still the same, to prevent crime.

[Slim-Rob]

I've met plenty of 15 year olds that needed a beating...

madunderscorefan is pedobear? What kinda beating is he talking about???

http://sidewayspony.com/images/trough/production/2007/sep/29/46414_formatted_1191091046211.jpg

[rocketgrl94]

:laugh:laugh nuuh uhhh TRN!!!

[F18mustang]

madunderscorefan is pedobear? What kinda beating is he talking about???

http://sidewayspony.com/images/trough/production/2007/sep/29/46414_formatted_1191091046211.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/images/smilies/rollin.gif

[mad_fan]

madunderscorefan is pedobear? What kinda beating is he talking about???

http://sidewayspony.com/images/trough/production/2007/sep/29/46414_formatted_1191091046211.jpg

Yeah...that's what I said...:rolleyes:
Your mind works...in interesting ways...

[mad_fan]

"Tomato, Tomawto". She was still in the jail... I stand by my answer none the less.

Tomatoe...

Singed,
Dan Quayle

[rocketgrl94]

Yeah...that's what I said...:rolleyes:
Your mind works...in interesting ways...

give him a break we Judson folks have interesting dirty minds:D:p

[svhorns]

give him a break we judson folks have interesting dirty minds:d:p

fbi

[mad_fan]

give him a break we Judson folks have interesting dirty minds:D:p

Are you all pre-occupied with minors???:rolleyes:

[rocketgrl94]

Are you all pre-occupied with minors???:rolleyes:

pssssh... not me idk about TRN?:rolleyes:

[Hoodleboy80]

So Im a grown man, and then I guess from here on out if some 15 year old kid talks back to me,or is disrespectful, then I can slam them against a wall, drag them by the hair, just as long as I dont break their bones or nose.
(sarcasm)

Are you hinting at some members of the board...? ;)

[F18mustang]

Are you hinting at rocketgrl...? ;)

fixeditforyou.

[mad_fan]

fixeditforyou.

She's too old for us...:rolleyes:

[Slim-Rob]

sorry mad, i had to. and yes, that was the first thing that came to mind when you said you know some 15 yr olds that needed a beating...lol

[slorch]

I'm well aware of the differences. I have a big family of both. They both babysit the public in some form or another. The goal is still the same, to prevent crime.

then why do you confuse the two so badly?

they have very different purposes in their jobs.

[rocketgrl94]

fixeditforyou.

be nice stang!:D