National #1

[SLCDad]

I just noticed that SLC has moved into #1 on the MaxPreps national poll (passed Ohio St. Xavier). That means SLC is #1 on 6 out of 7 national high school polls. USA Today is the only hold out.

No doubt SLC will add Katy to the hoards that are singing their praises after Saturday.:D :D

[drgnbkr]

I just noticed that SLC has moved into #1 on the MaxPreps national poll (passed Ohio St. Xavier). That means SLC is #1 on 6 out of 7 national high school polls. USA Today is the only hold out.

No doubt SLC will add Katy to the hoards that are singing their praises after Saturday.:D :D

I know its all meaningless, but I don't see how they could rank anyone else #1 until they lose...The most important thing on Carroll's mind this week is the State Championship of Texas...the other stuff is fun to talk about but not important...

[Redneckn]

I just noticed that SLC has moved into #1 on the MaxPreps national poll (passed Ohio St. Xavier). That means SLC is #1 on 6 out of 7 national high school polls. USA Today is the only hold out.

No doubt SLC will add Katy to the hoards that are singing their praises after Saturday.:D :D


Don't you have to have all 7 major polls to get the mythical national title?

USA Today is the only one that really counts though right?

[SLCDad]

Don't you have to have all 7 major polls to get the mythical national title?

USA Today is the only one that really counts though right?If I recall correctly, last year SLC was #1 in 5 of 7 polls. (Maybe it was 6 of 7).

I think that Student Sports Fab 50 and PreNation are generally quoted as the best polls. USA Today is not really respected.

MaxPreps (or CalPreps) is a computer power rating. SLC has never been #1 in that rating until now. They have had an Ohio team as #1 for two years. The Ohio folks have loved to quote that rating.

We all know that national ratings have little real value and there is no way they can be all that accurate. However, it's an honor to be mentioned.

[Dragonuncle]

Max preps moved them up after the abilene game to #1.

[Redneckn]

If I recall correctly, last year SLC was #1 in 5 of 7 polls. (Maybe it was 6 of 7).

I think that Student Sports Fab 50 and PreNation are generally quoted as the best polls. USA Today is not really respected.

MaxPreps (or CalPreps) is a computer power rating. SLC has never been #1 in that rating until now. They have had an Ohio team as #1 for two years. The Ohio folks have loved to quote that rating.

We all know that national ratings have little real value and there is no way they can be all that accurate. However, it's an honor to be mentioned.


I wasn't real clear on how all that worked. I have only ever read the the USA Today poll. I know in 1999 when my ECA Eagles were National champs, they were #1 in that poll. But that was before I started coming online to read about and talk about football.

[toonman]

I just noticed that SLC has moved into #1 on the MaxPreps national poll (passed Ohio St. Xavier). That means SLC is #1 on 6 out of 7 national high school polls. USA Today is the only hold out.

No doubt SLC will add Katy to the hoards that are singing their praises after Saturday.:D :D

USA Today will not change. #1 is Lakeland Florida, who are unbeaten, winning the FL State Championship and whose season is now over.

[Redneckn]

USA Today will not change. #1 is Lakeland Florida, who are unbeaten, winning the FL State Championship and whose season is now over.


I guess Lakeland is #1 then. Too bad for SLC... Maybe next year... :D

[Crank_It]

No one really cares about football outside of Texas so there is no need for a national poll, TX football is the only state that matters.

[DragonBand06]

Mission Viejo, Ca was also above SLC at #2. They lost last week (SLC vs. Plano) and dropped to #20. We are #2 on there now. However, I just don't see how we can be ranked anything other than #1. All 6 others have us at #1, and we haven't lost yet. How, then, can someone else be in front???

[Redneckn]

No one really cares about football outside of Texas so there is no need for a national poll, TX football is the only state that matters.


Nobody in Texas really cares about football outside of Texas perhaps. But rest assure, the rest of the country is playing ball as usual. And they aren't paying much mind to Texas because SLC won't play anybody outside of Texas. So in the rest of the countries minds, SLC is unproven. I think that could be why USA2day has them less than #1.

[my3sons]

SLC really doesn't care about National Championships. State titles are decided on the field. National titles are mythical. Go Dragons! Get #6!

[Redneckn]

SLC really doesn't care about National Championships. State titles are decided on the field. National titles are mythical. Go Dragons! Get #6!


Too bad for SLC then. Katy is gonna get the title this year. And that will close the door on the National title for SLC. That's a shame.

[my3sons]

Too bad for SLC then. Katy is gonna get the title this year. And that will close the door on the National title for SLC. That's a shame.

You might be right Redneck. Katy might win. However, a Katy win will not even get them the same national consideration that a Carroll win over Katy will bring. Let's see, who has actually won the mythical title??? Let's see, who can win another national title?? You are right on 1 thing, this game will close the door on the season. You must be magna cum lauda???

[Down n' Out]

You might want to play on Saturday, before you start thinking about National Title...I've said this before, where will Katy be ranked if they beat you. Not number one, I'll bet.:mad:

[drgnbkr]

Nobody in Texas really cares about football outside of Texas perhaps. But rest assure, the rest of the country is playing ball as usual. And they aren't paying much mind to Texas because SLC won't play anybody outside of Texas. So in the rest of the countries minds, SLC is unproven. I think that could be why USA2day has them less than #1.

#1 Lakeland does'nt go over 50 miles all year...

[my3sons]

Why go out od Texas when SLC plays the likes of Lufkin, Plano, Abilene, Katy???? Isn't that enough competition???

[Redneckn]

You might be right Redneck. Katy might win. However, a Katy win will not even get them the same national consideration that a Carroll win over Katy will bring. Let's see, who has actually won the mythical title??? Let's see, who can win another national title?? You are right on 1 thing, this game will close the door on the season. You must be magna cum lauda???


I don't think Katy is after the national recognition. I think they'll get their share either way when they win.
I don't think SLC will get mythical title even with a win over Katy. SLC hasn't played anyone until the playoffs. And as much as SLC doesnt care about the mythical title, I'll bet that if they don't get it a lot of people around SLC will be whining about not getting it.

Any team that has had the mythical title before would win another one? I dont understand that part..

And it's: Magna Cum Laude. Let's not disgrace the honor by spelling it incorrectly please.

[Redneckn]

Why go out od Texas when SLC plays the likes of Lufkin, Plano, Abilene, Katy???? Isn't that enough competition???


Because you are only playing them when you HAVE to.

[wide-e-wide]

I am still the Mythical Baddest MoFo Ever.
A title that I will never be stripped of...

[drgnbkr]

You might want to play on Saturday, before you start thinking about National Title...I've said this before, where will Katy be ranked if they beat you. Not number one, I'll bet.:mad:

I guarantee you there is not one player thinking about a national title & there are very few of us on the board who care..it's the state title that matters ...whoever wants it the most will get it..

[da hawaiian]

Too bad for SLC then. Katy is gonna get the title this year. And that will close the door on the National title for SLC. That's a shame.

If I were the underdog, not that anyone here is a dog lol, I'd keep my opinion on the down low. That way if I lose, I didn't put my foot in my mouth. If I win, I can then be gracious in victory...a win win if you ask me. Really I hope Katy makes a good showing, if only for the self-esteem of the kids wearing Red. I admit...I don't know enough about Katy to make an educated guess on the outcome of this game. Maybe you guys have the team to pull it off. but why not let the kids do the talking.

[Redneckn]

If I were the underdog, not that anyone here is a dog lol, I'd keep my opinion on the down low. That way if I lose, I didn't put my foot in my mouth. If I win, I can then be gracious in victory...a win win if you ask me. Really I hope Katy makes a good showing, if only for the self-esteem of the kids wearing Red. I admit...I don't know enough about Katy to make an educated guess on the outcome of this game. Maybe you guys have the team to pull it off. but why not let the kids do the talking.


I don't even know where Katy is...I'm just trying to get the SLC people riled up...hahaha... Speaking of dogs. I have none in the hunt.


I really do think the game will be a hum-dinger. I also think that Wide is the
Mythical Baddest MoFo Ever. And now that I think about that.. Something needs to be done about it.:D

[drgnbkr]

I don't even know where Katy is...I'm just trying to get the SLC people riled up...hahaha... Speaking of dogs. I have none in the hunt.


I really do think the game will be a hum-dinger. I also think that Wide is the
Mythical Baddest MoFo Ever. And now that I think about that.. Something needs to be done about it.:D

I'm riled up red! Keep bringin it..it spices things up...

[ftballin11]

Ranking teams from different states above each other and below each other is just stupid. Most to all of those teams have not played the others, so there is no possible to way to rank teams above each other from different states. The #1 team in the state of Maine or any state can be ranked #1 in their own state, but different states have different levels of competition. 5A Texas football has in my opinion the best competition anywhere. A team that does not play the teams of the same caliber as another team on there can still be ranked higher because they are undefeated or gave up 0 points in 15 games. I just don't think national ranking is correct. Yeah, all the teams on there are amazing, but they don't play each other and they play different levels of competition, so they can't be compared. A team in a different state could go undefeated and be ranked higher than a TX team, but I would love to see them go through the D1 or D2 playoffs this year. A few could, don't get me wrong, but so many TX teams are so good but play teams that are better to where they don't always get the "national" recognition. Look at SLC's road to state, tell me how many of those teams were ranked nationally, and look at the kind of games they gave SLC. They may have been ranked in state, but many and many of those not in the top teams in the nation.

Any corrections that may be wrong in this post are free to be corrected, I am not bashing SLC or anything, so don't read it wrong. More bashing the "national ranking system"

[Redneckn]

I'm riled up red! Keep bringin it..it spices things up...


Being from Louisiana, I know about spices... But I hate spicey food.. Go figure that one???


You are'nt really riled up...People aren't officially riled up until they start calling names and stuff..hahaha

[my3sons]

I would love to see a real game. Any SLC will tell you it is more enjoyable watching a thrilling Plano and Lufkin game, than a blow out against Abilene. Nothing against Abilene. SLC was expecting a nail biter again from Abilene a la 04. SLC got up quick and Abilene was out of sync. Just the opposite against Plano and Lufkin. Great game, great athletes, great competition, great fun. Katy will be a great opponent. It will be fun. No blow out here.

[SLCDad]

You might want to play on Saturday, before you start thinking about National Title...I've said this before, where will Katy be ranked if they beat you. Not number one, I'll bet.:mad:To be the best you have to beat the best. Katy hasn't played the best teams in Texas this year so they are unproven.

[SLCDad]

I would love to see a real game. Any SLC will tell you it is more enjoyable watching a thrilling Plano and Lufkin game, than a blow out against Abilene. Nothing against Abilene. SLC was expecting a nail biter again from Abilene a la 04. SLC got up quick and Abilene was out of sync. Just the opposite against Plano and Lufkin. Great game, great athletes, great competition, great fun. Katy will be a great opponent. It will be fun. No blow out here.Let's think about the Lufkin and Plano games. In both games SLC made some mistakes early. Against Plano 3 INTs and a fumble on the 3 yard line which negated a potential score. Against Lufkin it was a fumble (granted it was forced by Lufkin) and a 10 yard punt (not forced). Both gave Lufkin a very, very short field.

HOWEVER, when the game was on the line SLC scored 3 straight TDs against Plano and 5 straight TDs against Lufkin. When the game was on the line, SLC came up BIG.

Every other playoff game was over my mid second quarter.

Frankly, I don't see the Katy game being any different, but that's just me.

[ftballin11]

SLC hasn't played the best teams in the nation. Likewise to what you just said, how can they be ranked against teams they have never played! Unless they are in Texas, I don't see a point in national ranking with teams completely different in levels of competition. Of course, Ohio made their rise a while back saying they were better than Texas. Florida and Cali. are good as we know by the way they are producting their stars out there. De La Salle proved Cali. can hang, for some reason I want to say it was 151 wins? Correct me if I'm wrong, can't really remember, and don't feel like researching it. I just dont think national ranking has any relevance or meaning to it. Those teams have never played each other before, one can not be ranked higher than the other unless they have played the same opponents and one of them lost to the opponent. A win is a win, by 1 or 100. "A win can not be justified by how much you beat that team across the field by"

[UT66]

This thread is the best example of the difference between SLC and Katy when it comes to the football program fan posters. SLC is concerned about whether or not they get ranked #1 in all seven polls. Katy literally doesnt care about polls and never has. Katy is just that team from R3 that plays a weak schedule so they can get into the playoffs every year and keep playing. Polls are just that, polls. Ask UT whether they care about being ranked #2 or just getting a chance to play #1. Katy got that chance to play #1 and dont give a hoot if they even have a number for them. Katy is a fun team, good fan base, sound development program and some success on the field for the team/Katy/fans/school. Beyond that world, they really dont care what anyone thinks. Its all about the community of Katy. Its all about the development of fine young people to know there are more important things than being "ranked #1". We dont really have a clue, after all, we just play a weak schedule to have more fun games. Katy is #1 with Katy and thats all that really matters. Win, lose or draw we will be back next year for them and thats real. You see, it aint the end of the world for Katy not to be ranked anywhere but it is the focus of a lot of the SLC faithful. Not all, but a lot. Obviously it is most important to SLCDAD! I'm a Katy Dad and I just enjoy the ride and the development of my children. There is enough pressure on the kids today without the added pressure of mythical recognition being important on any scale. I met some really nice SLC fans and parents after the 03 game but I dont think many of them post on here.

[Sakatha]

Because you are only playing them when you HAVE to.


Wow, you are a clown... I can't think of any other thing to describe you that wouldn't get me banned...

~DnM

[insider]

... Ask UT whether they care about being ranked #2 or just getting a chance to play #1. ...

I think UT wants to win and be the undisputed #1. They have that chance and will have to be reconciled with the result - either way.

Not sure how that applies to your point about Katy.

SLC seemed pleased to win district and region. I expect they would be quite pleased to win state - and would expect Katy would as well.

I've seen many posts that put the mythical national #1 as an interesting aspect - but not what I see as the boys really looking to acheive.

[Pack Daddy]

The best Football in the Nation is played in Texas (Region 1 and Region 2 especially). It doesn't matter what the outside polls say ...right here in Texas we know who owns the #1 spot. I just wish we could have given you a better 2nd half SLC. Next year!

Go Pack!
Lufkin Panthers!

[SLCDad]

This thread is the best example of the difference between SLC and Katy when it comes to the football program fan posters. SLC is concerned about whether or not they get ranked #1 in all seven polls. Katy literally doesnt care about polls and never has. Katy is just that team from R3 that plays a weak schedule so they can get into the playoffs every year and keep playing. Polls are just that, polls. Ask UT whether they care about being ranked #2 or just getting a chance to play #1. Katy got that chance to play #1 and dont give a hoot if they even have a number for them. Katy is a fun team, good fan base, sound development program and some success on the field for the team/Katy/fans/school. Beyond that world, they really dont care what anyone thinks. Its all about the community of Katy. Its all about the development of fine young people to know there are more important things than being "ranked #1". We dont really have a clue, after all, we just play a weak schedule to have more fun games. Katy is #1 with Katy and thats all that really matters. Win, lose or draw we will be back next year for them and thats real. You see, it aint the end of the world for Katy not to be ranked anywhere but it is the focus of a lot of the SLC faithful. Not all, but a lot. Obviously it is most important to SLCDAD! I'm a Katy Dad and I just enjoy the ride and the development of my children. There is enough pressure on the kids today without the added pressure of mythical recognition being important on any scale. I met some really nice SLC fans and parents after the 03 game but I dont think many of them post on here.This whole post just makes me laugh.

Yeah we know, Katy is so noble and is better than everyone else.

(Frankly I'm wondering how noble it is for UT66 to post such an insulting post, but that's just me.)

Lighten up my friend. It's a discussion board.

[SLCDad]

OF COURSE national polls are a total guess. Everybody knows that. I really have to laugh at several of the responders in this thread who actually believe that anyone takes them seriously.

Having said that, I think we should all start a letter writing campaign to USA Today to promote SLC as the #1 team in the nation. We're #1, we're #1, we're #1, we're #1!!!!

[Mr_Lucci]

Having said that, I think we should all start a letter writing campaign to USA Today to promote SLC as the #1 team in the nation. We're #1, we're #1, we're #1, we're #1!!!!


This tactic is now named after Mack Brown . Anyone who refers to this will be just as pathetic as Mack Brown. But then again it worked for him last year so I guess it doesn't hurt to try. :) By the way USA Today's poll is the only one that matters.

[insider]

This tactic is now named after Mack Brown . Anyone who refers to this will be just as pathetic as Mack Brown. But then again it worked for him last year so I guess it doesn't hurt to try. :) By the way USA Today's poll is the only one that matters.

Gee - sounds like those wanting to affirm a national champ will need a BCS type scheme that confuses the inputs of several other polls and comes out with something completely unsupported. :D :D

[wide-e-wide]

This tactic is now named after Mack Brown . Anyone who refers to this will be just as pathetic as Mack Brown. But then again it worked for him last year so I guess it doesn't hurt to try. :) By the way USA Today's poll is the only one that matters.

National championship game....scoreboard...shut up.

[Redneckn]

Wow, you are a clown... I can't think of any other thing to describe you that wouldn't get me banned...

~DnM


Well don't get yourself banned because I'm picking on y'all. That would be kinda dumb. I would like to read the many ways you have to describe me sometime though. It might provide some humor or something.

Lighten up a little and don't take things so seriously. We are all just having some harmless fun.:)

[KatyTigerDad0407]

Why go out od Texas when SLC plays the likes of Lufkin, Plano, Abilene, Katy???? Isn't that enough competition???
That is good enough competition. SLC does not need to prove anything. Their record speaks for itself.

[ALLIN]

I agree, what would SLC, or any team for that matter, have to gain from playing out of state. I mean if Dodge wants to do it, I will sure be there, butif I were the HC, no way i would agree to it. I dont think Dodge will either

[implacable44]

The best Football in the Nation is played in Texas (Region 1 and Region 2 especially). It doesn't matter what the outside polls say ...right here in Texas we know who owns the #1 spot. I just wish we could have given you a better 2nd half SLC. Next year!

Go Pack!
Lufkin Panthers!


well i am in texas and i guess you will have to not include me in that comment because I think region IV is better than region I or II. and SLC is not even the undisputed best 5a team in Texas because of the UIL. so Go Home Pack

[SLCDad]

This tactic is now named after Mack Brown . Anyone who refers to this will be just as pathetic as Mack Brown. But then again it worked for him last year so I guess it doesn't hurt to try. :) By the way USA Today's poll is the only one that matters.I guess I was to subtle. My comment was 100% in jest.

Most newspapers that I read quote the PrepNation and the Student Sports Fab 50 polls. In my experience (albeit limited) the USA Today poll isn't respected all that much. However, you may prefer it. Be my guest.

[SLCDad]

well i am in texas and i guess you will have to not include me in that comment because I think region IV is better than region I or II. and SLC is not even the undisputed best 5a team in Texas because of the UIL. so Go Home PackSo far in 2005 Region I has won both the 5A and 4A Division I titles. We'll see what happens on Saturday, but it could very well end up that Region I wins the 5A and 4A Division II titles also.

[Redneckn]

That is good enough competition. SLC does not need to prove anything. Their record speaks for itself.


I disagree for several reason. Mainly because I don't recall seeing those teams on SLC's schedule in predistrict. It is possible that I overlooked it. SLC doesnt play those teams, best I can tell, unless they are forced to in district or playoffs.

And really, I'm not trying to take anything away from SLC because they are good. But I don't think they are head and shoulders above the rest. And I would venture to say that no many people outside of Texas think they are either. Why? Because they wont play any of teams from out of state that are considered to be really really good.

If SLC decided to keep it in Texas, that's fine and I dont have a problem with that. But if they do that, they are going to be disprespected on the national scene. There is a school out in one of the Carolinas that's in the same situation.

[SLCDad]

I disagree for several reason. Mainly because I don't recall seeing those teams on SLC's schedule in predistrict. It is possible that I overlooked it. SLC doesnt play those teams, best I can tell, unless they are forced to in district or playoffs.

And really, I'm not trying to take anything away from SLC because they are good. But I don't think they are head and shoulders above the rest. And I would venture to say that no many people outside of Texas think they are either. Why? Because they wont play any of teams from out of state that are considered to be really really good.

If SLC decided to keep it in Texas, that's fine and I dont have a problem with that. But if they do that, they are going to be disprespected on the national scene. There is a school out in one of the Carolinas that's in the same situation.You think SLC is disrespected on the national scene? Really?

Perhaps you are right. Being #1 in most polls for two years smacks of disrespect.

Seriously though, playing teams from out of state does more harm to a program than good in my opinion. Interstate pre-district games don't prove anything. Pre-district games are a time of development for the team. They should be used for preparation for district play, NOT as chest pounding by attempting to prove you are better than some team in another state. That's foolishness.

Thank goodness Coach Dodge feels that way. The 2005 Dragons of Week 0 were not anywhere close to the Dragons of Week 16. THIS team especially needed time to develop, come together and to improve.

[UT66]

Region one has done well this year. No dispute there at all. SLC is always at the top of any list of football powers. No dispute there at all. Seems no one in Region 1 or 2 can beat them for sure. Dont think anyone from R4 has beat them either. Kudos to R1 and R2 for 2005. SV was a strong rep for R4 and the entire 26-5A district was certainly strong this year. But lets dont get into that "best football is played in R1/2" stuff please. At about the 3 week of playoffs, they are all very good and most of the games could go either way at that point. Our state process is pretty good at sorting out the stronger teams but after all, the Region playoffs are a one and done format and not a true indicator of any regions dominance over the other. Only one game will ever be played between the strongest of the north and the strongest of the south.

[Redneckn]

You think SLC is disrespected on the national scene? Really?

Perhaps you are right. Being #1 in most polls for two years smacks of disrespect.



I'm not talking about polls. I'm talking about what other fans from other places are saying.

And no, I don't think SLC is being disrespected, I know they are. And I participate in these talks pretty often as well. I think SLC is ok with being king of Texas Football. But is scared as hell to go outside of Texas where teams aren't intimidated by them.

But I would like you to understand that I think SLC is a good team. Really good. But I don't think they are better than a lot of other teams out there.
SLC is unproven. And as long as SLC keeps Texas only schedules, they will remain that way.

What you said on your edit... I think it can harm some programs to go outside of state to get some good games.. Teams that are really good do just fine with it. Plus, it lets the team know where they really stand. That is what I have always like about ECA going all over to get games. The situation there is a little different because the teams in Louisiana suck. So for ECA to get some good games, they HAD to get out of state.
I see your point. But I just feel like SLC would be better proven by getting some nationally ranked teams on their predistrict schedule.

[implacable44]

So far in 2005 Region I has won both the 5A and 4A Division I titles. We'll see what happens on Saturday, but it could very well end up that Region I wins the 5A and 4A Division II titles also.


that is one team and this is one year. - are we talking one team and one year ? until another region is home to the one team with more 5a state titles than any other team give me region IV then since we are talking about one team and on a year-by-year basis.

[Redneckn]

SLCDad. I do have to agree that sometimes early on, a team does need some games to come together.
ECA playing Longview early was terrible. By seasons end, I think the game would have been much closer. ECA still would have lost, but it would have been a game. So I do see your point and it is a valid one. But I just cant completely agree with it.

[RidgePride]

Why go out od Texas when SLC plays the likes of Lufkin, Plano, Abilene, Katy???? Isn't that enough competition???
That is true but only us Texans know how good that competition is.

[SLCDad]

I see your point. But I just feel like SLC would be better proven by getting some nationally ranked teams on their predistrict schedule.That would be 100% foolishness in my opinion (for many reasons).

[SLCDad]

that is one team and this is one year. - are we talking one team and one year ? until another region is home to the one team with more 5a state titles than any other team give me region IV then since we are talking about one team and on a year-by-year basis.If I recall correctly somebody on this board put together a history of titles by region. They also looked at North and South. Region 1 and/or the North had the most if memory serves.

[implacable44]

If I recall correctly somebody on this board put together a history of titles by region. They also looked at North and South. Region 1 and/or the North had the most if memory serves.


well since 265a had all 3 teams advance in the 5a playoffs with madison losing to smithson valley and smithson valley losing to katy i think region 4 looks pretty darn good as a whole this year with all 3 teams going that deep.

and until someone else in 5a has six 5a state titles at one school then give me Judson and region IV

[insider]

well since 265a had all 3 teams advance in the 5a playoffs with madison losing to smithson valley and smithson valley losing to katy i think region 4 looks pretty darn good as a whole this year with all 3 teams going that deep.

and until someone else in 5a has six 5a state titles at one school then give me Judson and region IV

Three teams in 26-5 advancing only shows that 26-5 may be a bit stronger in R4 - doesn't prove much else. Especially given the number of R4 teams playing in finals.

Original question was for 2005, if I recall - so all the titles in the closet are not counted - just where are you this year.

[SLCDad]

Speaking of districts, SLC could easily be in the same district as Euless Trinity. They are only a few miles apart. Only an artifical boundary set by the UIL keeps them separate. SLC was also been in the same district as Highland Park a few years back.

If Highland Park were to move up to 5A (which they won't) it's not inconceivable that SLC, Trinity and HP could all be in the same district. Currently SLC drives a lot further to Denton Ryan than it would to either of these schools.

[PurpleNation]

If there is any team in the nation that deserves that national ranking of #1 it is Southlake Carroll. They have played and beaten the best competition in Texas the past 4 years which is amazing. I would rank this Dynasty run up with the Midland Lee Rebels that won 3 straight tittles with Benson. I'm not saying that SLC is un beatable becuase they can be beat but I believe they are #1 nationally until someone dethrones them. BTW great classy fans after the game. I was talking to one guy for about 5 minutes who was real nice. He told me if we wood have had our QB then the game would have been better but he though Lufkin still had a chance to win until the middle of the 4th qarter. Great win SLC.

[Redneckn]

If there is any team in the nation that deserves that national ranking of #1 it is Southlake Carroll. They have played and beaten the best competition in Texas the past 4 years which is amazing. I would rank this Dynasty run up with the Midland Lee Rebels that won 3 straight tittles with Benson. I'm not saying that SLC is un beatable becuase they can be beat but I believe they are #1 nationally until someone dethrones them. BTW great classy fans after the game. I was talking to one guy for about 5 minutes who was real nice. He told me if we wood have had our QB then the game would have been better but he though Lufkin still had a chance to win until the middle of the 4th qarter. Great win SLC.


That's faulty logic. Because you're saying SLC deserves to be national champs because nobody has beat them in years. But the only teams they have played have been Texas teams. So that would make them the #1 in Texas for sure. But nothing more... I think they would beat most of the other top 5 teams. Perhaps not though.
It's really hard to say...Saying that SLC is #1 nationally because nobody has beat them is just wrong though. They still have not played anybody nationally speaking.
SLC will be the National Champions as long as they win this weekend though.

[insider]

That's faulty logic. Because you're saying SLC deserves to be national champs because nobody has beat them in years. But the only teams they have played have been Texas teams. So that would make them the #1 in Texas for sure. But nothing more... I think they would beat most of the other top 5 teams. Perhaps not though.
It's really hard to say...Saying that SLC is #1 nationally because nobody has beat them is just wrong though. They still have not played anybody nationally speaking.
SLC will be the National Champions as long as they win this weekend though.

All it takes is to accept the premise that Texas HS Football is the best in the land - thus it is just being the best of the best...

[Redneckn]

All it takes is to accept the premise that Texas HS Football is the best in the land - thus it is just being the best of the best...


But I refuse to accept fiction as fact, as does the rest of America. If what you say is true, then the top 10 teams (polled) would be majority Texas teams. That is not the case.


On a side note, I hope all of you enjoy these conversations as much as I. I honestly don't care too much. I like Texas football and I do think it is a step or 2 above most states. Other than my ECA Eagles, there are no teams I'd rather watch than some Texas teams...

[wide-e-wide]

But I refuse to accept fiction as fact, as does the rest of America. If what you say is true, then the top 10 teams (polled) would be majority Texas teams. That is not the case.


On a side note, I hope all of you enjoy these conversations as much as I. I honestly don't care too much. I like Texas football and I do think it is a step or 2 above most states. Other than my ECA Eagles, there are no teams I'd rather watch than some Texas teams...

I will go out on a limb and say...

Texas
California
Florida

in that order...

Ohio can kiss my ***.

[Redneckn]

I would list them like this.
California
Ohio
Texas
Florida
Penn
who cares?


I have to put Cali and Oh before Texas because that's gonna make more of you mad. And I only have another hour and 20 mins before I leave for a few days. So I have to get as many of y'all irritated as I can before I go.

[wide-e-wide]

Hey Redneck'n...stop it brother....that stuff is gonna kill you.
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[dragonfootballfan]

Since one loss in High School basically drops you from the National Polls completely, no schools would have anything to gain from venturing out of state to play nationally ranked teams because once they beat them, that team would no longer be in the poll and would be forgotten. It is also fair to compare some by distant common opponents like how Abilene dominated a nationally ranked Missouri team (Rockhurst) and Carroll absolutely dominated Abilene. I think it is pretty fair to say that Carroll would have beaten Rockhurst.

[Redneckn]

That's pretty good Wide...hahaha...