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toonman
12-12-2005, 07:37 AM
The Title should be Top 10 2005 Under Achievers - 10 Teams who promised so much this season – but failed and underachieved. Ranked in order of the greatness of the underachievement.

1). Longview – Ranked #1 pre-season in some polls. Started strongly, but faded in the late district games. Should have gone far in the play-offs with talent on the field.

2). Tyler Lee – defending champions are expected to get to the play-offs at least. 2 district wins only. This season is a huge failure.

3). Spring Westfield – Clear favorites to win state and anything else this season has got to be considered a failure, especially when showing so much championship form in the regular season.

4). Smithson Valley – Talk of winning it all this year. Lost to SA Churchill in their district. Did not have what it takes to get back to state – an under achievement for this program.

5). North Shore – Unfortunate to meet to Spring Westfield early in the play-offs, but losing early in the play-offs means a failed season which promised so much.

6). Abilene – showed that a 10-0 season means nothing when you get slaughtered in the play-offs. Abilene were expecting to beat SLC – not this year.

7). Schertz Clemens another 10-0 in district team; only to be slaughtered by SA Madison 42-19.

8). Denton Ryan – Hammered by 4A Highland Park. Lost 2 district games. Gifted the play-off game to South Grand Prairie. Under achievement by their usual high standards.

9). Midland Lee – Expected to challenge Abilene for District 3 honors behind a strong running game. Made the play-offs with a 4-6 losing record. Slaughtered by a poor Mansfield Summit.

10). Austin Westlake – An experienced offense was expected to return them to play-off glory – won district by a mile, only to be well beaten in the first round by 6-4 Pflugerville.

PackAttack2005
12-12-2005, 08:07 AM
Don't you mean 2005?

toonman
12-12-2005, 09:01 AM
Don't you mean 2005?

You are correct - I will edit my post - Thank you

toonman
12-12-2005, 09:02 AM
Don't you mean 2005?

You are correct - I will edit my post - Thank you

c-lisle
12-12-2005, 09:03 AM
I definately agree with your #1

Mr. Buddy Garrity
12-12-2005, 09:08 AM
Memorial should be in that top 10 also.:mad:

*bleep* Colbert!:mad:

Favpack
12-12-2005, 09:37 AM
Clemens mvp broke his leg - totally unfair analysis when they relied so much on Henry. No way anyone except SLC calls SV's year an under-achievement. Losing in the semi's is not bad, the district loss helped SV it appears as they crushed Madison when it really counted.

gator
12-12-2005, 09:41 AM
The Title should be Top 10 2005 Under Achievers - 10 Teams who promised so much this season – but failed and underachieved. Ranked in order of the greatness of the underachievement.

1). Longview – Ranked #1 pre-season in some polls. Started strongly, but faded in the late district games. Should have gone far in the play-offs with talent on the field.

2). Tyler Lee – defending champions are expected to get to the play-offs at least. 2 district wins only. This season is a huge failure.

3). Spring Westfield – Clear favorites to win state and anything else this season has got to be considered a failure, especially when showing so much championship form in the regular season.

4). Smithson Valley – Talk of winning it all this year. Lost to SA Churchill in their district. Did not have what it takes to get back to state – an under achievement for this program.

5). North Shore – Unfortunate to meet to Spring Westfield early in the play-offs, but losing early in the play-offs means a failed season which promised so much.

6). Abilene – showed that a 10-0 season means nothing when you get slaughtered in the play-offs. Abilene were expecting to beat SLC – not this year.

7). Schertz Clemens another 10-0 in district team; only to be slaughtered by SA Madison 42-19.

8). Denton Ryan – Hammered by 4A Highland Park. Lost 2 district games. Gifted the play-off game to South Grand Prairie. Under achievement by their usual high standards.

9). Midland Lee – Expected to challenge Abilene for District 3 honors behind a strong running game. Made the play-offs with a 4-6 losing record. Slaughtered by a poor Mansfield Summit.

10). Austin Westlake – An experienced offense was expected to return them to play-off glory – won district by a mile, only to be well beaten in the first round by 6-4 Pflugerville.

Most of these teams you mention had great years. Many went very far in the playoffs. For you to cheapen what these kids did is totally classless in my opinion. You probubly never have played football or you were on a team that never played in the playoffs. You are just a classless punk.

Tut
12-12-2005, 09:45 AM
I don't see Smithson Valley being in this group. They lost a close game to a very good Katy team.

clemensbuff
12-12-2005, 09:51 AM
The Title should be Top 10 2005 Under Achievers - 10 Teams who promised so much this season – but failed and underachieved. Ranked in order of the greatness of the underachievement.

1). Longview – Ranked #1 pre-season in some polls. Started strongly, but faded in the late district games. Should have gone far in the play-offs with talent on the field.

2). Tyler Lee – defending champions are expected to get to the play-offs at least. 2 district wins only. This season is a huge failure.

3). Spring Westfield – Clear favorites to win state and anything else this season has got to be considered a failure, especially when showing so much championship form in the regular season.

4). Smithson Valley – Talk of winning it all this year. Lost to SA Churchill in their district. Did not have what it takes to get back to state – an under achievement for this program.

5). North Shore – Unfortunate to meet to Spring Westfield early in the play-offs, but losing early in the play-offs means a failed season which promised so much.

6). Abilene – showed that a 10-0 season means nothing when you get slaughtered in the play-offs. Abilene were expecting to beat SLC – not this year.

7). Schertz Clemens another 10-0 in district team; only to be slaughtered by SA Madison 42-19.
8). Denton Ryan – Hammered by 4A Highland Park. Lost 2 district games. Gifted the play-off game to South Grand Prairie. Under achievement by their usual high standards.

9). Midland Lee – Expected to challenge Abilene for District 3 honors behind a strong running game. Made the play-offs with a 4-6 losing record. Slaughtered by a poor Mansfield Summit.

10). Austin Westlake – An experienced offense was expected to return them to play-off glory – won district by a mile, only to be well beaten in the first round by 6-4 Pflugerville.

Come on now, we should have at least made the top 5! LOL

bleedgreen
12-12-2005, 10:42 AM
at least we finished at #1 in a poll:cool: :cool:

toonman
12-12-2005, 10:57 AM
Most of these teams you mention had great years. Many went very far in the playoffs. For you to cheapen what these kids did is totally classless in my opinion. You probubly never have played football or you were on a team that never played in the playoffs. You are just a classless punk.


So what you are saying is that we should never criticize anyone. Are you suggesting that we should just hide from the facts and making everything seem sweet and rosy all the time? All I did was list teams where the expectations were higher than what was actually achieved. How exactly did I cheapen Tyler Lee and how exactly did cheapen Midland Lee. I made observations to generate discussions with other fans. Not achieving an objective is a learning experience, just as is winning it all. That said, I will not insult you, as I believe you are entitled to a point of view, which I happen to disagree with.

LongviewLobo209
12-12-2005, 01:32 PM
The Title should be Top 10 2005 Under Achievers - 10 Teams who promised so much this season – but failed and underachieved. Ranked in order of the greatness of the underachievement.

1). Longview – Ranked #1 pre-season in some polls. Started strongly, but faded in the late district games. Should have gone far in the play-offs with talent on the field.

2). Tyler Lee – defending champions are expected to get to the play-offs at least. 2 district wins only. This season is a huge failure.

3). Spring Westfield – Clear favorites to win state and anything else this season has got to be considered a failure, especially when showing so much championship form in the regular season.

4). Smithson Valley – Talk of winning it all this year. Lost to SA Churchill in their district. Did not have what it takes to get back to state – an under achievement for this program.

5). North Shore – Unfortunate to meet to Spring Westfield early in the play-offs, but losing early in the play-offs means a failed season which promised so much.

6). Abilene – showed that a 10-0 season means nothing when you get slaughtered in the play-offs. Abilene were expecting to beat SLC – not this year.

7). Schertz Clemens another 10-0 in district team; only to be slaughtered by SA Madison 42-19.

8). Denton Ryan – Hammered by 4A Highland Park. Lost 2 district games. Gifted the play-off game to South Grand Prairie. Under achievement by their usual high standards.

9). Midland Lee – Expected to challenge Abilene for District 3 honors behind a strong running game. Made the play-offs with a 4-6 losing record. Slaughtered by a poor Mansfield Summit.

10). Austin Westlake – An experienced offense was expected to return them to play-off glory – won district by a mile, only to be well beaten in the first round by 6-4 Pflugerville.


Smithson Valley underachieved? They lost one district game, and then lost in the semi's by 3 points? Okay...?!

North Shore underachieved? They were supposed to lose to Westfield.

I disagree with those two very much.

GarlandOwl06
12-12-2005, 01:45 PM
It's hard for me to say that a team that got to round 5 and lost by 3 points (to a very good Katy team) underachieved. Any year you get to round 5 is a huge achievement!

Mad Hatter
12-12-2005, 02:01 PM
Come on now, we should have at least made the top 5! LOL


HAAAAAAAAA....i think i just blew milk out my nose that was hilarious.

GarlandOwl06
12-12-2005, 02:07 PM
HAAAAAAAAA....i think i just blew milk out my nose that was hilarious.
LOL They're in the top 10? Hmm...

Mad Hatter
12-12-2005, 02:36 PM
im still laughing, so was the longview guys post but i just cant get over the other one.

Eagle81
12-12-2005, 03:20 PM
6). Abilene – showed that a 10-0 season means nothing when you get slaughtered in the play-offs. Abilene were expecting to beat SLC – not this year.

All things considered. I hope Abilene continues to underachieve like this. Simply because anything can happen in the playoffs and you have to achieve something to get to the third round. Injuries play a large part of how well you finish (just ask Richardson Berkner or Lufkin). Granted, Abilene got blown out by SLC and you're not going to find any people more dissappointed in that than the players and coaches in Abilene. But the fact of the matter is, SLC was a better team than Abilene. They can lineup 10 time and SLC would more than likely win 9 of them. But for the most part you could say that about any 5A team in the state of Texas. Don't believe me, 61-1 would be a good account of that.

So if my Eagles are going to be considered underachievers for getting blown out by SLC, I guess we'll just have to accept that and just look forward to next year with all but the 3 teams still standing.

chap fan
12-12-2005, 03:36 PM
I wouldn't disagree with you putting us on this list, but I think in fairness to Pflugerville it should be pointed out that three of Pflugerville's losses were to Smithson Valley, Judson, and Leander. The former two of course, went deep into the playoffs, and Leander was pretty highly ranked for most of the season (as was Pflugerville earlier in the season). You might also mention that we beat A & M Consolidated in a non district game this year. I guess there's always next year.

BAMF cowboy
12-12-2005, 04:03 PM
Most of these teams you mention had great years. Many went very far in the playoffs. For you to cheapen what these kids did is totally classless in my opinion. You probubly never have played football or you were on a team that never played in the playoffs. You are just a classless punk.

woah calm down bud. why the hate? although i don't agree with all of his underacheivers, he has the right to his opinion and to who he thinks underacheived. He is not personally attacking any of these programs, I don't see how this brings about a 'class' issue.

Now for my take on it.

I think Tyler Lee has to be number 1, they were predicted by some to go all the way again, they even went up to ohio to represent texas...that didnt go so hot.
Longview has to be in there...this was supposed to be the year they got over the lufkin hump.
Clemens went out early, but to a solid 26 - 5A team.
Westfield you could consider a slight disappointed, losing to an over-acheiving Judson.
I don't think Abilene underachieved. They lost to a fantastic SLC team...even if they did get throttled.
DR was definitely a disappointment.
SV by no means was disappointing, they had a great game and losing only one game in a very tough district.
I don't think NS failed, just got knocked out by a solid Westfield team.
The rest i am indifferent about.

toonman
12-12-2005, 04:44 PM
at least we finished at #1 in a poll:cool: :cool:

Threads like this are intended to create a forum for discussions, if it results in humor - then so much the better - This is a great reply from bleedgreen.

Grapeguy
12-12-2005, 06:36 PM
There's some teams that had pretty good seasons in that list. You know toonman the 2005 season is not over. Since SLC was heavily favored as the preseason #1 team, by your criteria they may earn a spot in the top ten if they lose to Katy.

ktchamp97
12-12-2005, 06:41 PM
I think #3, #4, and #7 are unfair.

Westfield lost the catalyst of their offense in the first quarter of a game that they lost by 3 on a late fumble return for a TD...in the Semifinals, no less! Any time you make the semis, you've had a great year...period.

Smithson Valley made the Semis...hardly underachieving.

As for Clemens, that's tough too because of the loss of Henry before the playoffs even started.

BigWhiteJake
12-12-2005, 07:45 PM
DING DING DING theres NUMBER THREE!!!!

KTCHAMP YOU ARE HOT TONIGHT!!!

Beasley was out, thats what Ive been saying all along...

Hell is frozen over...

toonman
12-13-2005, 11:08 AM
I think #3, #4, and #7 are unfair.

Westfield lost the catalyst of their offense in the first quarter of a game that they lost by 3 on a late fumble return for a TD...in the Semifinals, no less! Any time you make the semis, you've had a great year...period.

Smithson Valley made the Semis...hardly underachieving.

As for Clemens, that's tough too because of the loss of Henry before the playoffs even started.

There are always wise words from an Administrator, so a post from kt97champ on a thread I created; is indeed an honor, so I would never wish to challenge such comments. However may I respectfully explain why #3 #4 and #7 were on the list?

#3 – Spring Westfield – I am sure every poll and every poster had Spring Westfield as D1 State Champions this year following the State Title loss in 2004, with a Junior laden team – the expectation, I am sure we would all agree, was for a repeat State Championship appearance at the very least. Westfield, in my humble opinion, did not achieve the expectations made of them.

In addition, I use the ‘bible’ of all football knowledge –Texas 5A Football, and you wrote in your pre-season poll :–

“This is going to be a hard hitting and physical defense…..the offense is going to be very hard for opponents to stop. Westfield can produce talent on par with any school in the state as shown by their all-round performance in UIL competitions. If the Mustangs can play with the same intensity in '05 that they brought in the playoffs last year, then Westfield could emerge as the next great state championship winning program in the Houston area”.

#4 Smithson Valley – using the same logic as above, again I quote Texas 5A Football :–

“This Smithson Valley team should be as good or better than last year's version for a few reasons. First, they return experienced players across the board…….As far as Division II projecting teams go, there doesn't appear to be much in Smithson Valley's way as long as they take care of business during the regular season……but count on this group of Rangers to be playing December ball again this year.”

– Again I think the expectations were another State Championship game.

#7 – Schertz Clemens –Did really well in district, but fell at the first hurdle in the play-offs and again pre-season texas 5A Football wrote :-

“Beyond a district title, the Buffaloes are capable of greater achievements…………..Clemens has their top offensive player returning…………..Clemens has been very successful on the 5A level so far, and that doesn't look to change any time soon".

Fans – this is not a criticism of any team. It is my analysis of teams who have not met expectations. I am just an interested fan with a view-point. Like all posts, it is my thoughts only.

Eaglewatcher
12-13-2005, 04:52 PM
Actually I don't think Abilene really belongs in this list either. We only returned a couple of starters on offense and a couple on defense from last year. We lost our offensive coordinator and our defensive coordinator to other coaching jobs also. The game against SLC by itself was an under achievement. but I would disagree that the rest of the season was. To reload to that extent and still get 12 wins was not under achieving.

StarmanDX
12-13-2005, 05:54 PM
The Irving Tigers belong here. They returned what may have been the best running back/wide reciever combo in the state, started off 4-0, and then after they lost at home to LD Bell they went in a complete tailspin and finished 4-6, 1-6. I know they lost Evans in some games and district 6 was really tough, but they had no business losing to LD Bell, Coppell, or Nimitz in the least. A lot of wasted talent.

dragonsdaddy
12-13-2005, 06:09 PM
a great injustice is done by putting sv in that group anywhere. abilene was replacing everything except a great receiver and a great qb. i never expected they would be where they were at seasons end. i would put them in my top 10 surprises for over-achieving. i guess if kt takes the prize again, then by your standards, slc will be a bust.

tailgater
12-13-2005, 06:21 PM
Smithson Valley underachieved? They lost one district game, and then lost in the semi's by 3 points? Okay...?!

North Shore underachieved? They were supposed to lose to Westfield.

I disagree with those two very much.

Lobo - you've been in Longview too long. Stick to making comments about teams you know.

North Shore vs. Westfield was a toss up - North Shore was not "suppose" to lose to Westfield. If you know anything about that game - NS was poise to win - but could not get it done. One of them had to lose - too bad for NS fans - it was us. That's just the way it goes.

Is Katy "suppose" to lose to SLC?

ftballin11
12-13-2005, 06:32 PM
How is a team SUPPOSED to lose??!?!??! Contrary to popular belief, the coaches don't have that flip in the beginning of the game to determine who wins the game! No team is "supposed" to win. There is just teams that are favored in a match. Supposed to win would mean that they are scheduled and planned with the other team to win, but something happened and they lost. Which means they were SUPPOSED to win.... It's too hard even explaining this supposed to win stuff. I give up on this one.

tailgater
12-13-2005, 07:17 PM
How is a team SUPPOSED to lose??!?!??! Contrary to popular belief, the coaches don't have that flip in the beginning of the game to determine who wins the game! No team is "supposed" to win. There is just teams that are favored in a match. Supposed to win would mean that they are scheduled and planned with the other team to win, but something happened and they lost. Which means they were SUPPOSED to win.... It's too hard even explaining this supposed to win stuff. I give up on this one.

Ballin - that was good - I suppose.

JC73
12-14-2005, 11:33 AM
Ballin - that was good - I suppose.

This is a useless, stupid thread

clemensbuff
12-14-2005, 03:47 PM
This is a useless, stupid thread

No it's not, I still think we should have made the top 5! :p

t00 playa
12-14-2005, 03:55 PM
DING DING DING theres NUMBER THREE!!!!

KTCHAMP YOU ARE HOT TONIGHT!!!

Beasley was out, thats what Ive been saying all along...
Hell is frozen over...


thats what i have been saying since the game ended...however.. things happen. and yes he got hurt.. which makes it a dissapointment.. because when you get to the state finals and lose... the next season with everyone in tact, theres no where to go but one up .. and sit in the top spot...

oh well.... North Shore is on that list... so.. i cant be too critical....

:eek:

footballchick07
12-14-2005, 04:20 PM
where is abeline cooper on your list? they were rated very well going into the 2005 season, then did nothing all season.

dragonfootballfan
12-14-2005, 04:23 PM
What is dissapointing to me is that Trinity should have an unblemished season. The team that I watched on Saturday should not have lost to SGP. I guess it was true that the Trinity posters said that SGP just surprised them. This is not a shot at Trinity nor SGP. I am just dissapointed that they were not able to run the table even though they probably should have. I guess they are in my top ten one game under acheivers.

Crank_It
12-14-2005, 05:54 PM
There are always wise words from an Administrator, so a post from kt97champ on a thread I created; is indeed an honor, so I would never wish to challenge such comments. However may I respectfully explain why #3 #4 and #7 were on the list?

#3 – Spring Westfield – I am sure every poll and every poster had Spring Westfield as D1 State Champions this year following the State Title loss in 2004, with a Junior laden team – the expectation, I am sure we would all agree, was for a repeat State Championship appearance at the very least. Westfield, in my humble opinion, did not achieve the expectations made of them.

In addition, I use the ‘bible’ of all football knowledge –Texas 5A Football, and you wrote in your pre-season poll :–

“This is going to be a hard hitting and physical defense…..the offense is going to be very hard for opponents to stop. Westfield can produce talent on par with any school in the state as shown by their all-round performance in UIL competitions. If the Mustangs can play with the same intensity in '05 that they brought in the playoffs last year, then Westfield could emerge as the next great state championship winning program in the Houston area”.

#4 Smithson Valley – using the same logic as above, again I quote Texas 5A Football :–

“This Smithson Valley team should be as good or better than last year's version for a few reasons. First, they return experienced players across the board…….As far as Division II projecting teams go, there doesn't appear to be much in Smithson Valley's way as long as they take care of business during the regular season……but count on this group of Rangers to be playing December ball again this year.”
– Again I think the expectations were another State Championship game.

#7 – Schertz Clemens –Did really well in district, but fell at the first hurdle in the play-offs and again pre-season texas 5A Football wrote :-

“Beyond a district title, the Buffaloes are capable of greater achievements…………..Clemens has their top offensive player returning…………..Clemens has been very successful on the 5A level so far, and that doesn't look to change any time soon".

Fans – this is not a criticism of any team. It is my analysis of teams who have not met expectations. I am just an interested fan with a view-point. Like all posts, it is my thoughts only.

They achieved what this site said they would, just couldnt help from making mistakes in the semifinal game. If they had a stellar QB, maybe we'd sing a different song, but thats what SV does, alot with no-namers. IMO Cody Beyer shouldve been taking the bulk snaps but hill wants his kid to be the stud so mini-hill is gonna have to step up and play like a champ.

lufkin_82
12-14-2005, 07:01 PM
how is lee not #1? at least longview got into the playoffs... and a 10-0 regular season aint 2 bad

SLCDRGN
12-14-2005, 10:49 PM
1. Longview......Enough said!!

Them getting knocked out of the playoffs so quick sure shut-up several of their loud mouth fans. They had them as national champions through the regular season!!

bleedgreen
12-14-2005, 11:24 PM
1. Longview......Enough said!!

Them getting knocked out of the playoffs so quick sure shut-up several of their loud mouth fans. They had them as national champions through the regular season!!
watch out slcdrgn---one of those loud-mouthed Longview fans are still here...not all of us proclaimed Longview as national champs........speaking of loud mouthed fans...where do you think you rate on that scale?? you better look in the mirror, brother.....i've read several of your cocky and biased posts, SLCDRGN...don't start throwing stones just yet.............

KLH75287
12-15-2005, 12:07 AM
The Irving Tigers belong here. They returned what may have been the best running back/wide reciever combo in the state, started off 4-0, and then after they lost at home to LD Bell they went in a complete tailspin and finished 4-6, 1-6. I know they lost Evans in some games and district 6 was really tough, but they had no business losing to LD Bell, Coppell, or Nimitz in the least. A lot of wasted talent.

Great post for a scout teamer. The problems at ISD continue throughout the entire program.

GO PACK IN '05

Jtate862003
12-15-2005, 12:23 AM
Longview/tyler lee should be a tossup for #1

Lee was a complete joke this year....... I mean im a lee fan and it was almost embarassing wait....it was embarassing..........i know that jt got a new coach and restored the roar but that doesnt mean they shot the raider off the horse and made lee a washover team like they were in the 90's again.......

As far as longview goes...how can you return that much talent and not expect any loss to be considered underachieving or dissapointing.....but i will pick longview as next yr's d2 darkhorse....

myround0
12-15-2005, 09:02 PM
I will take it, right square on the chin, Longview, underachieved...we did, we just have to figure out how to get a fair shake when fromt he refs...nuff said about that. South Garland loss was so have to take, given we played really well on both sides of the ball, given we are still the best football team in Texas and the ENTIRE NATION, i said it then and i will say it now, the best high school football team in the country, the Longview Lobos...I just hope we can Schedule Lufkin, SLC, St. Xaiver Ohio, and Independence North Carolina next season for our non district games...or add Lufkin for a district game and add Mission Viego for a non district game...

TrojanHorse03
12-15-2005, 09:32 PM
I will take it, right square on the chin, Longview, underachieved...we did, we just have to figure out how to get a fair shake when fromt he refs...nuff said about that. South Garland loss was so have to take, given we played really well on both sides of the ball, given we are still the best football team in Texas and the ENTIRE NATION, i said it then and i will say it now, the best high school football team in the country, the Longview Lobos...I just hope we can Schedule Lufkin, SLC, St. Xaiver Ohio, and Independence North Carolina next season for our non district games...or add Lufkin for a district game and add Mission Viego for a non district game...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.............. ........................................
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

SLC13
12-15-2005, 11:32 PM
I will take it, right square on the chin, Longview, underachieved...we did, we just have to figure out how to get a fair shake when fromt he refs...nuff said about that. South Garland loss was so have to take, given we played really well on both sides of the ball, given we are still the best football team in Texas and the ENTIRE NATION, i said it then and i will say it now, the best high school football team in the country, the Longview Lobos...I just hope we can Schedule Lufkin, SLC, St. Xaiver Ohio, and Independence North Carolina next season for our non district games...or add Lufkin for a district game and add Mission Viego for a non district game...

LOL.....Still drinkin' that LV koolaid I see...... :D

dragonfootballfan
12-16-2005, 08:50 AM
I will take it, right square on the chin, Longview, underachieved...we did, we just have to figure out how to get a fair shake when fromt he refs...nuff said about that. South Garland loss was so have to take, given we played really well on both sides of the ball, given we are still the best football team in Texas and the ENTIRE NATION, i said it then and i will say it now, the best high school football team in the country, the Longview Lobos...I just hope we can Schedule Lufkin, SLC, St. Xaiver Ohio, and Independence North Carolina next season for our non district games...or add Lufkin for a district game and add Mission Viego for a non district game...
I am going to nominate this for the classics thread. This funnier than your prediction of Rockwall beating Carroll in the D1 playoff bracket.

the_great_state_of_TExas
12-16-2005, 09:13 AM
I will take it, right square on the chin, Longview, underachieved...we did, we just have to figure out how to get a fair shake when fromt he refs...nuff said about that. South Garland loss was so have to take, given we played really well on both sides of the ball, given we are still the best football team in Texas and the ENTIRE NATION, i said it then and i will say it now, the best high school football team in the country, the Longview Lobos...I just hope we can Schedule Lufkin, SLC, St. Xaiver Ohio, and Independence North Carolina next season for our non district games...or add Lufkin for a district game and add Mission Viego for a non district game...


Myround0 - I couldn't agree with you more. Maybe Longview can schedule SFA, UT, and the Colts.

Longview is a dynasty. Too much fun...

Dragon20
12-16-2005, 10:13 AM
The Title should be Top 10 2005 Under Achievers - 10 Teams who promised so much this season – but failed and underachieved. Ranked in order of the greatness of the underachievement.

1). Longview – Ranked #1 pre-season in some polls. Started strongly, but faded in the late district games. Should have gone far in the play-offs with talent on the field.

2). Tyler Lee – defending champions are expected to get to the play-offs at least. 2 district wins only. This season is a huge failure.

3). Spring Westfield – Clear favorites to win state and anything else this season has got to be considered a failure, especially when showing so much championship form in the regular season.

4). Smithson Valley – Talk of winning it all this year. Lost to SA Churchill in their district. Did not have what it takes to get back to state – an under achievement for this program.

5). North Shore – Unfortunate to meet to Spring Westfield early in the play-offs, but losing early in the play-offs means a failed season which promised so much.

6). Abilene – showed that a 10-0 season means nothing when you get slaughtered in the play-offs. Abilene were expecting to beat SLC – not this year.

7). Schertz Clemens another 10-0 in district team; only to be slaughtered by SA Madison 42-19.

8). Denton Ryan – Hammered by 4A Highland Park. Lost 2 district games. Gifted the play-off game to South Grand Prairie. Under achievement by their usual high standards.

9). Midland Lee – Expected to challenge Abilene for District 3 honors behind a strong running game. Made the play-offs with a 4-6 losing record. Slaughtered by a poor Mansfield Summit.

10). Austin Westlake – An experienced offense was expected to return them to play-off glory – won district by a mile, only to be well beaten in the first round by 6-4 Pflugerville.

9). Midland Lee – Really Disappointing / a real shocker

SwingingGate
12-16-2005, 10:56 AM
Where is Abilene Cooper on the list?

dragonsdaddy
12-16-2005, 09:48 PM
had gvine made the po's, the #1 team on that list would have been the et/slc loser. shows you what the luck of the draw can and does mean.

bleedgreen
12-16-2005, 10:19 PM
I will take it, right square on the chin, Longview, underachieved...we did, we just have to figure out how to get a fair shake when fromt he refs...nuff said about that. South Garland loss was so have to take, given we played really well on both sides of the ball, given we are still the best football team in Texas and the ENTIRE NATION, i said it then and i will say it now, the best high school football team in the country, the Longview Lobos...I just hope we can Schedule Lufkin, SLC, St. Xaiver Ohio, and Independence North Carolina next season for our non district games...or add Lufkin for a district game and add Mission Viego for a non district game...
most moronic post of the year........congrats to you, myround...........

abilenefan
12-16-2005, 10:53 PM
a great injustice is done by putting sv in that group anywhere. abilene was replacing everything except a great receiver and a great qb. i never expected they would be where they were at seasons end. i would put them in my top 10 surprises for over-achieving. i guess if kt takes the prize again, then by your standards, slc will be a bust.

Great post. The underachievers are those that had 4+ D-1 kids and never saw the 11th game and every year there is a page long list. JMHO.