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katybacker
12-11-2005, 09:08 AM
SLC you know the old saying, "be careful what you wish for".

toonman
12-11-2005, 09:13 AM
If you referring to playing Katy again in the State Championship - I think Christams came early for Dragon fans – as this was the match up on all Dragon fans wish list. All SLC wanted; is to play Katy again. May the best team win.

ALLIN
12-11-2005, 09:25 AM
Thats right, all SLC wanted was to play Katy again. I mean IF they beat us again, more power to them, but IF we beat them, we avenge so much from 2 years ago. I actually think SLC may have the motivational edge going into this one, even with no trash talk. All the teams that play SLC are soooo hyped, they want to be the ones. In this one, Katy was/is the one that beat us and now, we want them.....and it is our back yard! Travel safe and get ready for a game.

da hawaiian
12-11-2005, 09:34 AM
SLC has been on a roll through the playoffs. After a lukewarm but undefeated run through district play (5-5A) wasn't a slouch either, They have really hit another gear through the playoffs. They are really playing outstading football. A credit to the players that they have so much poise and are able to excecute under pressure. The name of the game is excecution and Southlake is number one in my book in that department. With a plethora of options on offense and an underated defense, this one's going to be a monster compared to the last team Katy faced. Katy can win, they'll need to play a flawless game on offense and make stops on defense. So far the team that best exemplifies this is Southlake Carroll. I'm a big BYU fan ofcourse, and I think Jacobsen has a big day for Carroll (I know he's not SLC's best reciever btw, but I don't care). I'd like to give props to Plano on a fabulous effort last week, I think they showed everyone that they are one of the Elite teams in the Lonestar state.

Win SLC

ALLIN
12-11-2005, 11:02 AM
MJ is SLC best receiver. Renfro had a big year last year due to MJ injury. This year, Mac is back on top and is the best rec we have.

dragonsdaddy
12-11-2005, 11:06 AM
SLC has been on a roll through the playoffs. After a lukewarm but undefeated run through district play (5-5A) wasn't a slouch either, They have really hit another gear through the playoffs. They are really playing outstading football. A credit to the players that they have so much poise and are able to excecute under pressure. The name of the game is excecution and Southlake is number one in my book in that department. With a plethora of options on offense and an underated defense, this one's going to be a monster compared to the last team Katy faced. Katy can win, they'll need to play a flawless game on offense and make stops on defense. So far the team that best exemplifies this is Southlake Carroll. I'm a big BYU fan ofcourse, and I think Jacobsen has a big day for Carroll (I know he's not SLC's best reciever btw, but I don't care). I'd like to give props to Plano on a fabulous effort last week, I think they showed everyone that they are one of the Elite teams in the Lonestar state.

Win SLC
mj is undoubtedly the best receiver on a team filled with wr talent. he is playing like a madman this year. he's making everyone pay for the unfortunate injury last year. i am putting in my vote for him as the poy on offense. he's ridiculous.

Drag Goon
12-11-2005, 11:41 AM
SLC you know the old saying, "be careful what you wish for".

Early in the playoffs I had hoped for the Dragons to face Abilene, Lufkin, and Katy. As we got closer to the matchup with Katy, I began to look at their games a little more closely. They have had a monster year with win margins that match up with SLC if not better. I don't know much about their level of competion other than SV but they appear to have dominated everyone they played.

This game should be great! SLC always has a target on them as they are every team's championship game. Against Katy they get a chance to avenge their one loss. The players and coach Dodge have said revenge is not a factor but I don't know how it couldn't be. They should be sky high (hope this won't negatively affect them) and Katy will be wanting to show that their previous win against SLC was no fluke.

Good luck to both teams. Drive safe Katy fans, and lets get a huge crowd for these very deserving teams!:)

DipnSpit
12-11-2005, 12:12 PM
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DipnSpit
12-11-2005, 12:14 PM
All the teams that play SLC are soooo hyped, they want to be the ones.

I wasn't motivated to beat y'all when we played in 03 because you guys were 31-0.. That wasn't my goal and i know for sure it wasn't the rest of my teamates' goal... no one cares about your stupid record when it comes to a state championship game.. hell, no one cares in a playoff game... they play to win.. and to play another week... not to be the team to "knock off SLC"

dragonfootballfan
12-11-2005, 01:29 PM
SLC you know the old saying, "be careful what you wish for".
wasn't Katy wishing to be in the championship game?

uscdragon
12-11-2005, 01:37 PM
I wasn't motivated to beat y'all when we played in 03 because you guys were 31-0.. That wasn't my goal and i know for sure it wasn't the rest of my teamates' goal... no one cares about your stupid record when it comes to a state championship game.. hell, no one cares in a playoff game... they play to win.. and to play another week... not to be the team to "knock off SLC"


BS...not true, every team wants to be the one that beat Southlake!

dragonfootballfan
12-11-2005, 01:40 PM
BS...not true, every team wants to be the one that beat Southlake!
I dissagree. A lot of teams during the regular season care about that, but in the playoffs and championship they just want to win so they can keep playing regardless of who they are playing. A team like Katy does not need to prove itself.

DragonNation
12-11-2005, 01:59 PM
I dissagree. A lot of teams during the regular season care about that, but in the playoffs and championship they just want to win so they can keep playing regardless of who they are playing. A team like Katy does not need to prove itself.

Katy is a quality, class program, but I disagree. Katy knows 2003 was a fluke and they will be out to prove otherwise.

dragonsdaddy
12-11-2005, 02:02 PM
Katy is a quality, class program, but I disagree. Katy knows 2003 was a fluke and they will be out to prove otherwise.
that's bs and you know it. we might lean towards the flukiness, but they have every right to believe we were lucky to have kept it close.

exbearkat
12-11-2005, 02:16 PM
that's bs and you know it. we might lean towards the flukiness, but they have every right to believe we were lucky to have kept it close.
Question: if Katy ends up winning this time around in much the same manner will you guys consider both losses flukes?

Oldman123
12-11-2005, 02:22 PM
Fluke my ***, we shoved it down your throat and made you like it! All your slim shadies on your f'n team knew they got dominated physically. This katy team may not be quite as physical but they will show up and play hard. I love how everyone from slc loves to say how bad the 03 dragons were but back then they were talkin like this team could walk on water.

SLC Dragon Fan
12-11-2005, 02:42 PM
Fluke my ***, we shoved it down your throat and made you like it! All your slim shadies on your f'n team knew they got dominated physically. This katy team may not be quite as physical but they will show up and play hard. I love how everyone from slc loves to say how bad the 03 dragons were but back then they were talkin like this team could walk on water.


You're going a little overboard with your comments Oldman. I would not say that a 1 point win was" shoving it down out throats" or that we were "dominated physically". Yes, the better team on that day one and Katy deserved it. Itwas not a fluke. Show me one SLC fan on this baord who stated that the 03 team was "bad". That hasn't happened. What has been said is that the 05 team is better han the 03 team. As someone who has seen every Dragon game in the past 4 years I happen to agree with that. The defense is clearly better this year than in 03 and the offense is at least as good. The only part of the game that I belive is not as good in 05 is the kicking game. None of this means that SLC will win this game on Sat. I believe the Dragons win by 10-14 points but that's just my humble opinion.

dragonsdaddy
12-11-2005, 02:45 PM
i guess you only watched the first half, as slc did a little force feeding themselves in the second half, too. was a battle all the way, and gave the rest of the state the blueprint. seems to be the language of the blue print was undecipherable to anyone else.

Oldman123
12-11-2005, 02:46 PM
Im just defending my team, everyone always wants to trash on us. We did dominate the line of scrimage rewatch the game.

dogsntigers
12-11-2005, 02:58 PM
I am just trying to figure out how making plays when you need em...playing ball control...getting turnovers in your favor and stepping up to take advantage of an offensive mistake late in the game is a fluke?

DragonBand06
12-11-2005, 03:00 PM
I am just trying to figure out how making plays when you need em...playing ball control...getting turnovers in your favor and stepping up to take advantage of an offensive mistake late in the game is a fluke?

Dude, don't pay attention to the Noobs. They tend to get a little rowdy :)
We at SLC all (minus the Noobs) know that the better team won that day.

D-Band06

MWKT
12-11-2005, 03:10 PM
Katy is a quality, class program, but I disagree. Katy knows 2003 was a fluke and they will be out to prove otherwise.

I'll wait till after the game to respond to such an moronic statement.

It doesn't deserve any bulletin board material for SLC, but I'll be looking for you next week, win or lose.

GoDragons
12-11-2005, 03:11 PM
I wasn't motivated to beat y'all when we played in 03 because you guys were 31-0.. That wasn't my goal and i know for sure it wasn't the rest of my teamates' goal... no one cares about your stupid record when it comes to a state championship game.. hell, no one cares in a playoff game... they play to win.. and to play another week... not to be the team to "knock off SLC"

Oh yea...we've been waiting for this one. Get ready Katy! We missed you last year...where were you guys? Oh I forgot you didn't make it to the finals....guess you were out Christmas shopping. :cool:

TXfbfan
12-11-2005, 03:12 PM
BS...not true, every team wants to be the one that beat Southlake!

Katys been dominating 5a for the past 10 years. We had a run similar but not quite as good from 97-00. 97 won state, 98 undefeated state ranked 1 disqualified right before state game, 99 upset by garland in state or as SLC would put it a fluke, 00 16-0 no one came close to beating us. So dont talk to me about every one wants to beat us, weve had the bullseye longer.

MWKT
12-11-2005, 03:31 PM
Oh yea...we've been waiting for this one. Get ready Katy! We missed you last year...where were you guys? Oh I forgot you didn't make it to the finals....guess you were out Christmas shopping. :cool:

We were coasting thru the playoffs with a rookie head coach and overlooked a team we should have beat.

Where were you? Biting your nails in three of the last four playoff games...ANY of which could have resulted in a loss.

Too bad we didn't take care of business against Clear Lake. The matchups were far more in our favor against you last year than in 2003 OR this year.

dragons08
12-11-2005, 03:32 PM
Dude, don't pay attention to the Noobs. They tend to get a little rowdy :)
We at SLC all (minus the Noobs) know that the better team won that day.

D-Band06
your a noob, havent even been on here for a week!

DragonBand06
12-11-2005, 03:43 PM
your a noob, havent even been on here for a week!

Well at least I don't post like one!

P.S. I think I'm older than you. Respect your elders. :p

dragons08
12-11-2005, 03:46 PM
Well at least I don't post like one!

P.S. I think I'm older than you. Respect your elders. :p
im taller than you, respect your taller people

DragonBand06
12-11-2005, 03:55 PM
im taller than you, respect your taller people

Hate to turn this into a hijacked band thread, but Saxophone comes in a close third to Texas HS football and Drumline.

dragons08
12-11-2005, 03:57 PM
Hate to turn this into a hijacked band thread, but Saxophone comes in a close third to Texas HS football and Drumline.
close? who are you kidding its..

Texas HS football then










































saxophones










rest of band

DragonBand06
12-11-2005, 04:07 PM
I think you may want to retake Basic Numbers; Third place comes AFTER Second...

However, Judson/SV/Lufkin may like it better your way...

BAMF cowboy
12-11-2005, 04:27 PM
db06, since you've arrived there has been an exponential increase of threads that have either related to band, or have been turned into band related. don't accuse d08 of being newb, although he's not a community vet, im pretty sure everyone around here knows him. turning every thread into band related is an ultimate newb move. don't mess with my boy d08

P.S. you don't have to end every post with 'D-Band06'...we know who posts what

DragonBand06
12-11-2005, 04:30 PM
db06, since you've arrived there has been an exponential increase of threads that have either related to band, or have been turned into band related. don't accuse d08 of being newb, although he's not a community vet, im pretty sure everyone around here knows him. turning every thread into band related is an ultimate newb move. don't mess with my boy d08

P.S. you don't have to end every post with 'D-Band06'...we know who posts what

I didn't call him a noob, just told him he might want to reconsider his HS curriculum...

DragonBand06
12-11-2005, 04:34 PM
And you can't really blame me for that "SLC dissed Lufkin Band" thread either...

P.S. Finally 100 posts!

oldrangerfan
12-11-2005, 04:42 PM
After watching SV play one of their worst(offensive speaking) games of this season and still almost pull it off aginst Katy, I think SLC will get their revenge this time around.

da hawaiian
12-11-2005, 04:44 PM
That's interesting you all say Jacobsen is your best reciever, and as a BYU fan that's great to hear. But from all the other Texashsfootball forums I currently post on, I've been told he's #3 at best. Can anyone expound here on what make's him so good. I have an idea allready but we're really excited to be getting him. Couple of us are planning to fly down this weekend to see him live

dragons08
12-11-2005, 05:02 PM
That's interesting you all say Jacobsen is your best reciever, and as a BYU fan that's great to hear. But from all the other Texashsfootball forums I currently post on, I've been told he's #3 at best. Can anyone expound here on what make's him so good. I have an idea allready but we're really excited to be getting him. Couple of us are planning to fly down this weekend to see him live
well, look at his stats, just amazing!
his ablitiy to gain yards after the catch is insane!
also his ablitiy to make the big plays is awesome!
hes also a fast guy and seems to get even better every week, people think renfo is the best b/c of his speed, and that he has those long diving catches..but mckay does all the little stuff, the screen passes turned into long runs, stuff liek that

ALLIN
12-11-2005, 05:04 PM
Whoever said he is #3 is wrong. I might see an arguement for #2, but even that is pushing it. He IS the best rec for the dragins and has been since his soph year (without the injury last year).

dragonsdaddy
12-11-2005, 05:07 PM
That's interesting you all say Jacobsen is your best reciever, and as a BYU fan that's great to hear. But from all the other Texashsfootball forums I currently post on, I've been told he's #3 at best. Can anyone expound here on what make's him so good. I have an idea allready but we're really excited to be getting him. Couple of us are planning to fly down this weekend to see him live
look at his stats for one. he is the only full time receiver on the dragons for a reason. ask any lp fan about the espnness of some of his catches yesterday. he is tough, runs great routes, and can and will catch anything he can get to, which with his speed and determination, is almost everything. he is undoubtedly our best receiver.

DirtyHarry01
12-11-2005, 05:22 PM
I disagree, I don't think SLC can beat USC.

dragons08
12-11-2005, 05:27 PM
I disagree, I don't think SLC can beat USC.
who said anything about htat?

exbearkat
12-11-2005, 06:49 PM
After watching SV play one of their worst(offensive speaking) games of this season and still almost pull it off aginst Katy, I think SLC will get their revenge this time around.
Ya think their poor offensive performance might have had something to do with the Katy D? Could it be humanly possible that the best defensive mind in the State actually came up with a game-plan that slowed down the mighty Dragons? :rolleyes:

dragonsdaddy
12-11-2005, 06:52 PM
he certainly did 2 years ago. we'll get another shot to see it sat.

BigWhiteJake
12-11-2005, 10:12 PM
oldman does not represent any of us in katy...
it was a close game that each team could have easily won...we caught some breaks, but with so much talent on one field, the winning team must catch breaks to win, we capitalized and its over... but that game has no bearing or parallel with this game...in 2003 the katy D was much tougher and we had a great ball control running back, this year, we have a much more dynamic offense, so we will be attempting to play stride for stride with SLC. likewise, SLC at the time was an offensive juggernaut, now they are as balanced a team as any in the state, agnew is just as good as thompson, boydston is outstanding too. the SLC dline vs the katy oline is going to be a marvelous match up...

BigWhiteJake
12-11-2005, 10:17 PM
exbearkat...mikey j and jazzy joe shut down dodge with less talent, no doubt, and master massey kept that ball control offense from a single 3 and out which was absolutely vital...

2/3 of that is gone now, dont be fooled into thinking dodge will make the same mistake again, coaching in this game is even, period.

P.S. I am just curious for the opinions of baldtiger, KT2000, KtChamp97, and the guys whos opinions I respect, so if you arent one them dont reply. AZtiger i think youre swell too. But was anyone else going 'what the hell' when we went for it on 4th and 1, the last play before we knelt the clock out? See, stopping our run was their strength, that sorry QB was the weakness, I thought all the way, pooch and make them drive the field, you gotta think, one mistake or even bad spot, and they have a 55 yd field with 50 seconds left, and only need 3, could get 7. Once again though, cudos to the katy oline, and to vickers, cause the refs could have spotted that wherever they wanted to.

Tut
12-11-2005, 11:13 PM
I thought that going for it on fourth down was the best play. Worse things can certainly happen on a punt than not making the first down.

Oldman123
12-11-2005, 11:17 PM
BWJ who the hell do you represent? I played on that team and i know what Katy is, Ive lived their all my life and im tired of people callin our win a damn FLUKE! So F U!

my3sons
12-11-2005, 11:26 PM
your a noob, havent even been on here for a week!

Just because you have 7000 + posts doesn't mean anything except you spend more time on here than anyone else. I bet your DAD would much rather you get a job than to spend all your time on this site.

BigWhiteJake
12-11-2005, 11:30 PM
Anyone who lives outside of Katy I'll translate that for you...

BigWhiteJake (thats me), I'm pissed because you put the game in a logical perspective giving credit to both teams. I am angry because I was on that team, and I have a ring with my name on it, that should probably say Mouton, Longacre, Parker, Lewis, Stewart, Hasoon, Thornton, Aston, or one of the other starters instead, but it doesn't it says DERR HERR in big gold letters. People like you who use unbias logic piss me off because I cannot wrap my fragile little mind around it. I will live in Katy the rest of my life, and the next great thing I can hope for is that my boy (DERR HERR Jr) is a superstar ball player for KHS.

I apologize to all you intelligent Katy football players for having to read this. Cody Lopasky, Joey Welch, Andy Dalton, Jake Straka, Ethan Steadman, Will Anderson, Darren Konesheck, David Sadowski, Don Bishop, Dre, Alex Barton, Sam Justus, any of these guys and numerous others have bright futures with or without football.

Basically, the guy that just threw me the special ed F bomb was probably a scrub on the team, and now just nags anyone who says anything sensable.

Oldman123
12-11-2005, 11:41 PM
HA HA HA HA HA, boy you love to throw out names dont you. Hasoon wasnt on that team, you probably one of those guys kids who couldnt take it, you will where red when everyone else does but at the first sign of trouble turn and run like a little Biotch. Man i could throw around all those names too but I dont need to i actually know them and they are my friends. You probably just sit around jacking off wishing you were them but you cant be.

BigWhiteJake
12-11-2005, 11:44 PM
nevertheless, no ones throwing your name around are they?

BigWhiteJake
12-11-2005, 11:48 PM
i just want to highlight the fact that im two years younger than you, and two times smarter than you. you had to ask what SA Madison was??? what the hell did you think it was? how can you never have heard of the team katy beat at kyle field to go to the 2000 state game, if you've lived in katy all your life...werent you a freshman that year? in the football program no doubt? just a moron... what can i say

Oldman123
12-12-2005, 12:00 AM
#1 I know who SA Madison was it was a joke smart one, They havent accomplished anything Katy has and they were talking trash.
#2 I dressed out for the state game as a freshman
#3 I like to keep my identity a secret personal prefernce by the way who are you?

Oldman123
12-12-2005, 12:06 AM
I guess you got pretty mad with those personal attacks, eventhough you dont know me. Calm down just because im right dosent mean you have to get so angry.

DragonBand06
12-12-2005, 12:13 AM
I think that all of the Carroll/Lufkin fans should start our own website called CarrollLufkinFootball.com (or LufkinCarrollFootball.com) and have our discussions for the intelligent over there. That would be good times...

Who's with me???;)

Owned05
12-12-2005, 01:07 AM
Anyone who lives outside of Katy I'll translate that for you...

BigWhiteJake (thats me), I'm pissed because you put the game in a logical perspective giving credit to both teams. I am angry because I was on that team, and I have a ring with my name on it, that should probably say Mouton, Longacre, Parker, Lewis, Stewart, Hasoon, Thornton, Aston, or one of the other starters instead, but it doesn't it says DERR HERR in big gold letters. People like you who use unbias logic piss me off because I cannot wrap my fragile little mind around it. I will live in Katy the rest of my life, and the next great thing I can hope for is that my boy (DERR HERR Jr) is a superstar ball player for KHS.

I apologize to all you intelligent Katy football players for having to read this. Cody Lopasky, Joey Welch, Andy Dalton, Jake Straka, Ethan Steadman, Will Anderson, Darren Konesheck, David Sadowski, Don Bishop, Dre, Alex Barton, Sam Justus, any of these guys and numerous others have bright futures with or without football.

Basically, the guy that just threw me the special ed F bomb was probably a scrub on the team, and now just nags anyone who says anything sensable.

Who's Mouton?

Better yet, who is Longacre???

Owned05
12-12-2005, 12:07 PM
Anyone who lives outside of Katy I'll translate that for you...

BigWhiteJake (thats me), I'm pissed because you put the game in a logical perspective giving credit to both teams. I am angry because I was on that team, and I have a ring with my name on it, that should probably say Mouton, Longacre, Parker, Lewis, Stewart, Hasoon, Thornton, Aston, or one of the other starters instead, but it doesn't it says DERR HERR in big gold letters. People like you who use unbias logic piss me off because I cannot wrap my fragile little mind around it. I will live in Katy the rest of my life, and the next great thing I can hope for is that my boy (DERR HERR Jr) is a superstar ball player for KHS.

I apologize to all you intelligent Katy football players for having to read this. Cody Lopasky, Joey Welch, Andy Dalton, Jake Straka, Ethan Steadman, Will Anderson, Darren Konesheck, David Sadowski, Don Bishop, Dre, Alex Barton, Sam Justus, any of these guys and numerous others have bright futures with or without football.

Basically, the guy that just threw me the special ed F bomb was probably a scrub on the team, and now just nags anyone who says anything sensable.

Youuuuu are a naaaaame dropper.

BigWhiteJake
12-12-2005, 01:27 PM
your calling me a name? and you dont know who mouton and longacre are? those are two of the best players katy ever had, they were both stars in the 03 state game...come on, im sorry i know peoples names

Tut
12-12-2005, 01:38 PM
your calling me a name? and you dont know who mouton and longacre are? those are two of the best players katy ever had, they were both stars in the 03 state game...come on, im sorry i know peoples names
I think (and hope) he was kidding.:confused:

Owned05
12-12-2005, 02:00 PM
I think (and hope) he was kidding.:confused:

Do you think I was kidding?

AZTiger
12-12-2005, 02:09 PM
damn yall embarass the hell outta me

BigWhiteJake
12-12-2005, 04:45 PM
well, theres only one way to settle this...

DragonBand06
12-12-2005, 04:49 PM
well, theres only one way to settle this...

...yes?

TXhsfbfan
12-12-2005, 05:17 PM
[QUOTE=BigWhiteJake]

...dont be fooled into thinking dodge will make the same mistake again, coaching in this game is even, period.

BJW-
What mistake won't Dodge make again?

BigWhiteJake
12-12-2005, 05:20 PM
several, namely underestimating katy...

also, he wont let us play ball control again...the faster the game, the better chance katy has of winning...

dodge made so many errors that game, he had his punter taking 3 steps kicking out of the endzone on the play we blocked, he didnt even quick step...umm the whole field goal fiasco...

Dodge is a great coach, its just going head on with the 4 headed monster Katy had at that time was too much. You can bet he will have his guys up for this one.

exbearkat
12-12-2005, 05:39 PM
also, he wont let us play ball control again...the faster the game, the better chance katy has of winning...
Um, don't you mean SLC? ;)

BigWhiteJake
12-12-2005, 05:45 PM
my bad, i cant appreciate you bearkat, you have been my critic for ages, its the other morons i hate

DragonBand06
12-12-2005, 05:48 PM
[QUOTE=BigWhiteJake]...umm the whole field goal fiasco...QUOTE]

That wasn't Dodge's fault. Hartley hadn't missed all season except maybe 1 or 2...

dragons08
12-12-2005, 05:50 PM
Just because you have 7000 + posts doesn't mean anything except you spend more time on here than anyone else. I bet your DAD would much rather you get a job than to spend all your time on this site.
notice majority of my posts are at night, isnt there something against working at night?

and im not using my 7k posts as leverage in this, im just saying, ive been on here for 6months and hes on for a week, calling me a noob, nothing more nothing less, anyways this is just a joke

DragonBand06
12-12-2005, 05:51 PM
notice majority of my posts are at night, isnt there something against working at night?

and im not using my 7k posts as leverage in this, im just saying, ive been on here for 6months and hes on for a week, calling me a noob, nothing more nothing less, anyways this is just a joke

I didn't call you a noob! Check it out again.

BigWhiteJake
12-12-2005, 06:58 PM
yeah on second thought the field goals were probably what got him his scholarship to OU, i mean he waits til state to miss his first FG, where better to go than chokalahoma?

JP Heartley is/was great.

ktchamp97
12-12-2005, 07:06 PM
yeah on second thought the field goals were probably what got him his scholarship to OU, i mean he waits til state to miss his first FG, where better to go than chokalahoma?

JP Heartley is/was great.
It's Garret Hartley, homeboy, and he is/was awesome...we agree on that :eek::D.

Also, in the future, please take your little skirmishes with other posters to PM's...that goes for everybody, of course. The name-calling crap has to stop all-around. Although we often disagree, you're alright with me BWJ, just tone it down a bit from time to time.

A couple 'er three facts:
1. The win in '03 was NOT a fluke.
2. Both teams are better this time around.

3. Going for it on 4th and 1 to run out the clock was the right thing to do. If you can't gain 1 yard to end the game in that situation, you probably deserve whatever happens afterwards.

BigWhiteJake
12-12-2005, 07:12 PM
ktchamp, im glad your posting again, i love our dalton/kaspar banter... i will of course take my skirmishes to other places, i just cant believe the ugly he said to me, can you? i, for one, did not call the win a fluke, but if your interested in reading what oldman called it, i have it on another thread, why not offer us your wisdom there?

ktchamp97
12-12-2005, 07:25 PM
ktchamp, im glad your posting again, i love our dalton/kaspar banter... i will of course take my skirmishes to other places, i just cant believe the ugly he said to me, can you? i, for one, did not call the win a fluke, but if your interested in reading what oldman called it, i have it on another thread, why not offer us your wisdom there?
I'm not sure that you and I have had Kaspar/Dalton debates...I stayed out of that one. I think Jared could have been just as effective and would have put up similar numbers in a similar offense. My boy Matt Gore could have done quite well in this offense too! However, it would be hard for ANY QB to duplicate Andy's ridiculous 1 TD for every 5 attempts.

I saw oldman's post and I saw your response. As usual, I fall somewhere in the middle. Katy did run it down Carroll's throats in some respects...how else to you produce 17 play drives? But...Katy did not dominate the game...how could that be true if the margin was just 1? As I recall, SLC ran it down Katy's throats in the second half of the game and with Chase Daniel's running, they nearly salted the game away. One interesting note about that game is that Carroll only threw for 2 more yards than Katy and threw 1 INT vs. Katy's 0. In the end, Katy completely neutralized Carroll's passing offense and still barely escaped with the win. To me, that shows how closely the teams were matched and that the best team won.

BigWhiteJake
12-12-2005, 07:27 PM
that is an interesting look at it... i think the 03 team was very talented...

TXfbfan
12-12-2005, 09:28 PM
Anyone who lives outside of Katy I'll translate that for you...

BigWhiteJake (thats me), I'm pissed because you put the game in a logical perspective giving credit to both teams. I am angry because I was on that team, and I have a ring with my name on it, that should probably say Mouton, Longacre, Parker, Lewis, Stewart, Hasoon, Thornton, Aston, or one of the other starters instead, but it doesn't it says DERR HERR in big gold letters. People like you who use unbias logic piss me off because I cannot wrap my fragile little mind around it. I will live in Katy the rest of my life, and the next great thing I can hope for is that my boy (DERR HERR Jr) is a superstar ball player for KHS.

I apologize to all you intelligent Katy football players for having to read this. Cody Lopasky, Joey Welch, Andy Dalton, Jake Straka, Ethan Steadman, Will Anderson, Darren Konesheck, David Sadowski, Don Bishop, Dre, Alex Barton, Sam Justus, any of these guys and numerous others have bright futures with or without football.

Basically, the guy that just threw me the special ed F bomb was probably a scrub on the team, and now just nags anyone who says anything sensable.

God you think you know everything, You talk like you were there and didnt even know Hasoon wasnt on the team.You could be the worst katy fan ive ever seen post and i think most katy fans will agree

BigWhiteJake
12-12-2005, 09:29 PM
i corrected myself a 1000 times, i got hasoon and comito mixed up...

cody himself said i can see how you can do that