To Trinity fans

[farmerfan]

To all the Trojan supporters on here. Very nice win today. It was a great game and Judson proved to be a very worthy opponent. Beating Judson in a state title game is a big deal. They are the program in this state who you want to become. I have enjoyed watching yall the past few years. You were close in 01 and 04 and finally got it done. Coach Lineweaver is as good a coach as you will find in this state and he has proven that by being a state champ at every stop he has made. To Baylordad and his sidekick as well as Big Foot it was great to meet yall this year, you guys made me feel welcome at the games I attended and I enjoyed our converstations. You guys proved to be a elite team this year and one that will be talked about for a while. Way to represent the metroplex and bring home a state championship, the metroplex has a great shot at sweeping the D1 and D2 titles in 5A and 4A. Once again congrats on a great season and that 1st state championship.

[The Great Evaluator]

Farmerfan, as an honorary Trojan thank you for your support. You are one of the best posters on the board. You do a good job of giving a fair and honest assesment of things and i can appreciate that. Thank you for your recognition and support, this class of kids was a special group and we are proud of them.

[da wiz]

[QUOTE=The Great Evaluator]Farmerfan, as an honorary Trojan thank you for your support. You are one of the best posters on the board. You do a good job of giving a fair and honest assesment of things and i can appreciate that. Thank you for your recognition and support, this class of kids was a special group and we are proud of them.[/QUOTE

i second that... thanks for the support

[TrojanHorse03]

Thanks for your unwavering support Farmerfan and we hoped you enjoyed today as much as we did.

[toonman]

Great job - Trinty Players, Trinty Coaching Staff and Trinity Fans. I am so pleased Trinty won State.

[baylordad]

Thanks farmerfan, see ya next season.

[dragonfootballfan]

I would also like to remind Trinity fans that their football team's season may have ended last week, but there is still more metroplex football to be played. Any of you that want to come out and support the Dragons would be more than welcome to come to Texas Stadium Saturday to root for another metroplex state championship

[GTown02]

I would also like to remind Trinity fans that their football team's season may have ended last week, but there is still more metroplex football to be played. Any of you that want to come out and support the Dragons would be more than welcome to come to Texas Stadium Saturday to root for another metroplex state championship
Hopefully I can get off work next saturday... I would love to spend the day at TS watching some good ol' highschool football. Should be a good game.

[da hawaiian]

I think If I get down to this game, any Trojans gonna watch this at TS? I feel bad not getting down to one of ours but with Finals and work, it wasn't gonna happen. I'll pobably go down with the in-laws but if there's going to be a Trinity section, i'd like to know before hand

[jrp83]

I know it's a day late, but this is the first chance I've had to get online. Congratulations to Trinity. You guys have a tremendous team. All the talk about wearing oppenents down with that big O line was absolutely correct. I thought my Rockets had a chance when they went up by 14, but you guys were just warming up. Good luck next year. Go Rockets!!

[Judson_Dad]

It was a great game, but ET has NO CLASS:( . With under one minute to go in the game, the coaching staff could have showed some Class and took a knee, but no you had to keep trying to put the ball in again. Well, I am glad to see that you didn't make it in the final time. IF your team ever makes it to this level again, you should really consider winning with class. Also, your fans need help also...one fan came over to the Judson side wearing a fat pig outfit supporting a flag when the game had 2 minutes to go. I was glad to see him get tackled by a Judson fan and then kicked around a bit by other fans for such a stunt.


ET has NO CLASS.:mad:

[stangsfan]

It was a great game, but ET has NO CLASS:( . With under one minute to go in the game, the coaching staff could have showed some Class and took a knee, but no you had to keep trying to put the ball in again. Well, I am glad to see that you didn't make it in the final time. IF your team ever makes it to this level again, you should really consider winning with class. Also, your fans need help also...one fan came over to the Judson side wearing a fat pig outfit supporting a flag when the game had 2 minutes to go. I was glad to see him get tackled by a Judson fan and then kicked around a bit by other fans for such a stunt.


ET has NO CLASS.:mad:

How can you make that claim when in '92 your team ran up the score 52 - 0?

[Judson_Dad]

Did you watch the game in 1992? Did Judson continue to try to put the ball in the endzone with under 1 minute left in the game? NO! Just because ET got creamed in 1992 doesn't mean that they should play in 2005 without class. But I guess if the coach and players has no class then I understand why they did what they did.

[Judson_Dad]

As for running up the the score 52-0, what would you want a team to do. Just stop trying to score after half time when you are beating a team? I didn't thik so. Use a little common sense.

[farmerfan]

Did you watch the game in 1992? Did Judson continue to try to put the ball in the endzone with under 1 minute left in the game? NO! Just because ET got creamed in 1992 doesn't mean that they should play in 2005 without class. But I guess if the coach and players has no class then I understand why they did what they did.


You know nothing about Coach Lineweaver. To make such a statement shows your ignorance. If he truly wanted to score again he would have called another play. After the Vittatoe sneak failed, they let time run out when they clearly had enough of it to run another play. This thread was started to congratulate a team on a state title. If you have issues with Trinty and the way they won, start your own thread.

[farmerfan]

As for running up the the score 52-0, what would you want a team to do. Just stop trying to score after half time when you are beating a team? I didn't thik so. Use a little common sense.

By your standards that is what Trinity was doing :rolleyes:

[bullrock]

I wasn't going to mention this but after the game, in the parking lot, there was what appeared to be a 25 year old Tongan or Samoan or whatever they are, going at it with about a 16 year old Judson kid. The only punches thrown were by the Trinity fan. I was surprised a grown man could allow a kid to get the best of him (mentally). I believe it had something to do with the pig that stunk up our stands towards the end of the game.

[gritty52]

Judson dad you are a piece of work!!!! If we wanted to score we would have. You sound like that cocky middle guard #58 yaw have acted! Jumping all over the place crossing our line of scrimmage while our kids were in the huddle. #77,#76,and the rest of our offensive line put the stop on him though. Do you know the meaning of class?? Why were your fans leaving with 6 mins. to go. That's class! your players must have thought yaw gave up on them too! Geez!! This is the big dance stay and supprt the kids!!!!!!!!! HAKAAAAAA!!

[CNV J-Roc]

You can't blame the kids for not having class. Those kids whipped our but up and down the field and deserved to win.

But at the same time with the game in hand, you don't run a QB sneak with 10 sec in the game left. I thought that was pretty weak on the COACHES part.

The kids deserve respect for playing a great game. As for the fans, enter the Judson side bumping your gums at your own risk.

[bullrock]

I watched the game yesterday and I thought the QB actually scored on that sneak. I'm at a loss as to why the officials didn't allow it to count.
J-Roc, are you referrin' to the pig incident? I thought that was pretty weak. I couldn't imagine allowing him to escape without some sort of retribution.

[CNV J-Roc]

What did the pig do?


And the QB did score, why don't you think they allowed it? Cause the coach pulled a weak move, the kids played great though. And that shouldn't take away from their play.

[bubbacoach]

I thought the game was played with alot of integrity and sportsmanship. The better team won Saturday. I saw kids playing hard and then helping up their opponent after bringing them down. I saw two good, well coached teams play with their hearts and leave it on their field. The way these kids played is a reflection of their coaching. True Class. As far as a fight in the parking lot. Big Deal 90% of all fans are idiots. As far as Trinity going for it in the last minute. What do you tell your kids, stop trying. Congradulations Trinity, you seem to have a class program, with class kids. (This coming from a Judson supporter)

[bubbacoach]

You can't blame the kids for not having class. Those kids whipped our but up and down the field and deserved to win.

But at the same time with the game in hand, you don't run a QB sneak with 10 sec in the game left. I thought that was pretty weak on the COACHES part.

The kids deserve respect for playing a great game. As for the fans, enter the Judson side bumping your gums at your own risk.
Would you rather them line up in the power I and run Double Iso.

[clemensbuff]

I watched the game yesterday and I thought the QB actually scored on that sneak. I'm at a loss as to why the officials didn't allow it to count.
J-Roc, are you referrin' to the pig incident? I thought that was pretty weak. I couldn't imagine allowing him to escape without some sort of retribution.

Was this a real pig? Hell, if it was I would have been eating pork chops that night and bacon the next day! Congratulations to CJ on another outstanding season and Congratulations to the Trinity Trojans on their State Title. Let's hope they are the only Trojans that win a championship this year. GO HORNS!

[CNV J-Roc]

Would you rather them line up in the power I and run Double Iso.


No, they had already won, take a knee. But the last few seconds are insignificant to the whole game which was a good one.

[bcheat128]

I thought the game was played with alot of integrity and sportsmanship. The better team won Saturday. I saw kids playing hard and then helping up their opponent after bringing them down. I saw two good, well coached teams play with their hearts and leave it on their field. The way these kids played is a reflection of their coaching. True Class. As far as a fight in the parking lot. Big Deal 90% of all fans are idiots. As far as Trinity going for it in the last minute. What do you tell your kids, stop trying. Congradulations Trinity, you seem to have a class program, with class kids. (This coming from a Judson supporter)


I SECOND it

[LoneRocket]

I thought the game was played with alot of integrity and sportsmanship. The better team won Saturday. I saw kids playing hard and then helping up their opponent after bringing them down. I saw two good, well coached teams play with their hearts and leave it on their field. The way these kids played is a reflection of their coaching. True Class. As far as a fight in the parking lot. Big Deal 90% of all fans are idiots. As far as Trinity going for it in the last minute. What do you tell your kids, stop trying. Congradulations Trinity, you seem to have a class program, with class kids. (This coming from a Judson supporter)
Not that it made a difference, do you know why the Refs did not enforce the 11 man breaking the huddle rule, the refs during the Reagan game killed us on it.

[bullrock]

Bubba, the same holds true for coaches execpt I think the per centage may increase. If not for the fans, there would be no reason to play the game.

[bullrock]

J-Roc the pig came running to our side with a flag with about 3 minutes left to go in the game. He came alone too. Needless to say, he didn't get away unscathed and I believe he even lost his flag.

[nathan00427]

It was a great game, but ET has NO CLASS . With under one minute to go in the game, the coaching staff could have showed some Class and took a knee, but no you had to keep trying to put the ball in again. Well, I am glad to see that you didn't make it in the final time. IF your team ever makes it to this level again, you should really consider winning with class. Also, your fans need help also...one fan came over to the Judson side wearing a fat pig outfit supporting a flag when the game had 2 minutes to go. I was glad to see him get tackled by a Judson fan and then kicked around a bit by other fans for such a stunt.


ET has NO CLASS.


judson dad -- im sorry that you're so bitter about the loss.
you had two timeouts left and it was a 14 point game. weirder things have happened in this world than a team scoring a few touchdowns in under a minute or two...(hrmm see the first quarter?!). did you not notice we DIDNT PUNCH IT IN FROM THE 1?! you're just disappointed your team lost, and justifiably so, but don't say that its a lack of class by trinity.

[stinger]

What do you expect Judson Dad to say on his fourth post? He has no experience with this site and is a little upset that his team was dominated. After the two quick freak scores, his team was pretty well dominated and getting worn down. Trinity has NEVER run up the score on anybody, and NEVER will. The point was to keep possession of the ball until the clock was down to less that 25 seconds. Isn't possession the name of the game,and the style of Trinity? Just get over it and begin anticipating next year. It will be another great season. Oh yeah, spoke with some parents of the players and they said next year's line will be even BIGGER at Trinity. There are some players waiting in the wings from second team, etc. This is the way Trinity uses it's development program. No need to wear them out early, give them playing time on JV or second string. Don't know the returning numbers for next year.

[bullrock]

It's a good thing I'm not the coach. I know what I would have done.;) If the defense doesn't want to be scored on, there is only one option. I say play till the whistle blows. Nobody likes to lose but I'm not upset that we lost because I think we did all we could do to win the game and it didn't happen. That's all you can ask for. I think the coaches had a good game plan and stuck to it. ET had a better one and stopped it. Simple.

[bullrock]

Stinger, it's hard to wear them big old boys out if they never move more than 3 yards form the line of scrimmage. Apparently they didn't have to.

[CNV J-Roc]

J-Roc the pig came running to our side with a flag with about 3 minutes left to go in the game. He came alone too. Needless to say, he didn't get away unscathed and I believe he even lost his flag.


Did somebody jaw that kid...?

[Mad Hatter]

i would of beat him all the back to his car for that.

[afumbler]

Personally I think Trinity was not kind to Judson by taking a knee in the last minute. They should have taken a time out and made sure they tried to get that last touchdown.

The game is called football, and Judson showed what they were made of by making that last minute goal-line stand. They wouldn't have had the chance if Trinity humiliated them by running out the clock without doing anything that last minute. They could have given them another opportunity if they wouldn't have taken the last knee. Judson was clearly beaten, and the only thing they had left was their pride. I think they upheld that in the last minute of the game.

[bugw09]

I wasn't going to mention this but after the game, in the parking lot, there was what appeared to be a 25 year old Tongan or Samoan or whatever they are, going at it with about a 16 year old Judson kid. The only punches thrown were by the Trinity fan. I was surprised a grown man could allow a kid to get the best of him (mentally). I believe it had something to do with the pig that stunk up our stands towards the end of the game.

For the most part, Tongans don't usually "start" fights. But if they get any sort of disrespect they will beat the living crap out of you. As for that pig, he is at every game dressed like that. I don't really know who he is, but if he ran over there, he doesn't represent us as a whole. Just like the 16 year who obviously mouthed off after the game doesn't represent yall.

[implacable44]

For the most part, Tongans don't usually "start" fights. But if they get any sort of disrespect they will beat the living crap out of you. As for that pig, he is at every game dressed like that. I don't really know who he is, but if he ran over there, he doesn't represent us as a whole. Just like the 16 year who obviously mouthed off after the game doesn't represent yall.

um -- I don't know that to be entirely true. In my experience with Tongans they like to fight more than they don't - and they go looking for fights more than they try to avoid them. There is a reason about 80% of the Tongans in Utah and here for all I know have to go to anger management.
I also don't know that they will beat the living crap out of you - that would be on an individual basis and if they know how to fight and their opponents ability.

[bcheat128]

i don't post on here as much as some folks but my 1st post wasn't very nice
but as you go along and read other's post there some reall neat folks on here
and as red forman says there are some really dumb A$$es on here too but they just can help it

[bullrock]

Well, I'm not sure he got "jawed" as you called it, but he did hit the ground. I think it was more of the case of running over somebody to avoid getting "jawed" or maybe somebody tackled him?;)

[CNV J-Roc]

Well, I'm not sure he got "jawed" as you called it, but he did hit the ground. I think it was more of the case of running over somebody to avoid getting "jawed" or maybe somebody tackled him?;)


People must have been on their best behavior cuz if that game's at the Launch Pad(Rocket Stadium) and he pulled some stunt like that, the kid would've got stomped out.

[stinger]

BULLROCK...watch the game a little closer...you will see them big boys downfield doin pancake blocks. Sometimes they are running alongside the back. I have watched it happen for several years. They do not tire easily. Heard that next year's line is supposed to be even bigger...if that is possible.

[CNV J-Roc]

BULLROCK...watch the game a little closer...you will see them big boys downfield doin pancake blocks. Sometimes they are running alongside the back. I have watched it happen for several years. They do not tire easily. Heard that next year's line is supposed to be even bigger...if that is possible.


I don't know if "pancake" does those blocks justice.

Considering their size and ability, the Judson D-Line did well, I thought the LB's were neutralized because it was either a DE making a tackle or DB from what i recall.

[THSRamos48]

[QUOTE=Judson_Dad]It was a great game, but ET has NO CLASS:( . With under one minute to go in the game, the coaching staff could have showed some Class and took a knee, but no you had to keep trying to put the ball in again. Well, I am glad to see that you didn't make it in the final time. IF your team ever makes it to this level again, you should really consider winning with class. Also, your fans need help also...one fan came over to the Judson side wearing a fat pig outfit supporting a flag when the game had 2 minutes to go. I was glad to see him get tackled by a Judson fan and then kicked around a bit by other fans for such a stunt.





Sorry bud. You're WRONG! What happened in 92' when Judson ran the score up 52 points? You can't tell me that was second string or third string scoring after a healthy lead. Trinity all season has put their second and third string in and still has run the score up on opponents. Just be glad our first string was tired from the trip................Our ride was 4 Hours long. So Judsondad was right after ya'll scored the 14 points we had just gotten warmed up. You are right about the Pig man, we deeply apologize for that act.

[Crank_It]

Congrats to Trinity on a well played game, I thought we'd have a shootout from what I was listening to in the beginning of the game, but ya'll made the adjustments and proved you were the better team.

Judson - don't hang your heads, it was an achievement to even get to the title game and I'm sure we'll be hearing more from ya'll next year.

Kudos Trinity!

Great Effort Rockets!

[bullrock]

No need to apologize ramos. You can't control all the fans. And FYI, those were second and third stringers in the game one series after halftime in the '92 game. I'm not sure we scored too many points after half.

[da hawaiian]

um -- I don't know that to be entirely true. In my experience with Tongans they like to fight more than they don't - and they go looking for fights more than they try to avoid them. There is a reason about 80% of the Tongans in Utah and here for all I know have to go to anger management.
I also don't know that they will beat the living crap out of you - that would be on an individual basis and if they know how to fight and their opponents ability.

I'm glad you're such an expert on the subject

[GTown02]

I'm glad you're such an expert on the subject
My cousin plays for Trinity, and all he ever says about the Tongans on the team is that they are very mellow and always calm.

[TexasRed6x]

IN 1992 the half time score ws 24-0, so Judson did score 4 more TD's but only one in the 3rd withthe 1st string. Judson used everyone on that day and even tried to suit up some of the cheerleaders. I remember at half going and yelling at the Trininty players to keep playing hard, that they could get back into it. It was the one state championship game that we played in that you could sit back and enjoy, it was over very quickly, oh how the times have changed.

[Trinity Trojan Fan For Li]

Just to clarify Trinity having no class trying to score a touchdown at the end of the game a bunch of malarky, Trevor Vittatoe took the snap on the 1 yard line with 31 seconds on the time clock. Trinity had to run that play or else take a delay of game penalty. At that point, they still would have had to run one more play to start the clock. Instead Vittatoe took the snap with 31 seconds left but didn't make it in. Trinity still had 2 time outs left so if they wanted to score, they could have called a time out. But Coach Lineweaver isn't that kind of a coach. I just played the tape of the game to get these stats in case anyone wonders where this info came from.

The Trinity fan dressed as a pig that went on the Judson side is not the typical Trinity fan. He was an embarassment to me and other Trinity fans around me for doing that stupid act.

Congratulations to Judson for a good season. I'm sure we'll meet again!

[Judson_Dad]

You are missing the point...In 1992, Judson continued to score during the entire game and not in the last minute. When at the end of the 4th quarter in 1992, Judson took a knee. I am not implying that ET should have stopped trying to win during the middle of the game. If you would care to READ, they could have taken a knee within the last minute but the coach has NO class and no concern for the health of his players and decided to continue to try and get into the end zone. He took a VERY big risk of injuring one or several of his players that could be college bound. Tear a knee or break a neck and then where would that player have been just to try and get revenge? Explain that to the parents and the injured player.

[TrojanWebman]

I don't know if "pancake" does those blocks justice.

Considering their size and ability, the Judson D-Line did well, I thought the LB's were neutralized because it was either a DE making a tackle or DB from what i recall.
If you have the game taped, check out the next to the last play of the 3rd quarter. Falahola (#77) took care of #7 and then managed to slow down #20 as well. It wasn't a pancake block, more like a bull flipping the matador.

CJ did the best job of slowing down our run of any of the teams we played this year. SGP, IMAC and one half for ACM played us fiercely but I have to give the prize to CJ and their speed. It just got too physical later in the game.

Size DOES matter. Check out the photo:
http://events.freddickinson.com/gallery/1031277/23/48011827

I apologize for the guy who ran over into your stands and taunted you. I believe that was very wrong and unnecessary.

Not sure why coach did not take a knee one play earlier. We have seen Coach Lineweaver for years now and this was not what most of us would expect. Not sure what happened there.

CJ gave us a test and we played the better game that day. Great game! Next year........

[TrojanWebman]

You are missing the point...In 1992, Judson continued to score during the entire game and not in the last minute. When at the end of the 4th quarter in 1992, Judson took a knee. I am not implying that ET should have stopped trying to win during the middle of the game. If you would care to READ, they could have taken a knee within the last minute but the coach has NO class and no concern for the health of his players and decided to continue to try and get into the end zone. He took a VERY big risk of injuring one or several of his players that could be college bound. Tear a knee or break a neck and then where would that player have been just to try and get revenge? Explain that to the parents and the injured player.
You are right. You are also blowing this WAY out of proportion.

We played how many plays in that game? And adding one more play constitutes a VERY BIG RISK?? He owes an apology to the parents of the (non)injured player?? Let's keep this reasonable.

I agree with your point. I would be happier if coach had taken a knee one play earlier. Coach really is a VERY classy guy and you are judging him on just one game and one play. That's how life is. You can get it right 99% of time and there is always one guy ready to condemn you if you aren't perfect. We have seen our coach for many years and our stats and scores could EASILY have been a lot better this year. We were leading IMac by only 7 when we took a knee on them and that game was much closer. We did exactly what you asked at the earlier games this year.

I'm not sure I should be apologizing for our coach since I have no idea why he ran that play. We didn't score. Your argument is 'Should a team stop playing now or ONE PLAY later?'. I think you should be much more upset about our streaker than that one play.

[bullrock]

Actually, your streaker added a little drama to an otherwise bad day for the fans in Red. He was a big dude. Is he at all of your games? Is he just a fan or part of the presentation? I find it hard to believe the fans were allowed to wander back and forth during this game. In our district this is taboo. I never gave it much thought but there is a reason they control the crowds. Anyway, I for one, really enjoyed the game, I enjoyed getting to witness the Haka, I enjoyed the Trinity fans and spirit and I enjoyed the pig. Ya'll have a lot to be thankful for. See ya next year.

[TrojanWebman]

Actually, your streaker added a little drama to an otherwise bad day for the fans in Red. He was a big dude. Is he at all of your games? Is he just a fan or part of the presentation? I find it hard to believe the fans were allowed to wander back and forth during this game. In our district this is taboo. I never gave it much thought but there is a reason they control the crowds. Anyway, I for one, really enjoyed the game, I enjoyed getting to witness the Haka, I enjoyed the Trinity fans and spirit and I enjoyed the pig. Ya'll have a lot to be thankful for. See ya next year.
He is just a fan. It has been a 'special' year so we have had a number of fans come out of the closet this year. :eek:

Yea, they usually worry about the kids getting in fights and stuff. You never know.....Sorry.

[bubbacoach]

Bubba, the same holds true for coaches execpt I think the per centage may increase. If not for the fans, there would be no reason to play the game.
Percentage is one word. I will totally disagree with that. Just because you do not agree with a coaches decision or philosophies does not make him an idiot. He makes his decisions on far greater knowledge of the game than the ordinary football fan has knowledge of. It is easy to sit in the stands and second guess. Especially when your second guesssing is only based on the outcome of a play, game or season.

[implacable44]

I'm glad you're such an expert on the subject


thanks for recognizing.

[bullrock]

Bubba,
True, there are about a dozen coaches in the state of Texas that are smarter than the fans. Well, maybe a few more. I say 15. The rest are Landry and Papa Joe wanna-bes. Sometimes the kids surprise even the boss and do good in spite of him. Do you also teach spelling? You're pretty good at it. Maybe you missed your true calling.

[lonny23]

To all the Trojan supporters on here. Very nice win today. It was a great game and Judson proved to be a very worthy opponent. Beating Judson in a state title game is a big deal. They are the program in this state who you want to become. I have enjoyed watching yall the past few years. You were close in 01 and 04 and finally got it done. Coach Lineweaver is as good a coach as you will find in this state and he has proven that by being a state champ at every stop he has made. To Baylordad and his sidekick as well as Big Foot it was great to meet yall this year, you guys made me feel welcome at the games I attended and I enjoyed our converstations. You guys proved to be a elite team this year and one that will be talked about for a while. Way to represent the metroplex and bring home a state championship, the metroplex has a great shot at sweeping the D1 and D2 titles in 5A and 4A. Once again congrats on a great season and that 1st state championship.
I would like to say congrats to the Trinity fans, too. Enjoy your title for the next year. It's very hard to win them and you should cherish it for the rest of your life. Besides, we plan on taking it back next year!:p

[BigFoot]

You are missing the point...In 1992, Judson continued to score during the entire game and not in the last minute. When at the end of the 4th quarter in 1992, Judson took a knee. I am not implying that ET should have stopped trying to win during the middle of the game. If you would care to READ, they could have taken a knee within the last minute but the coach has NO class and no concern for the health of his players and decided to continue to try and get into the end zone. He took a VERY big risk of injuring one or several of his players that could be college bound. Tear a knee or break a neck and then where would that player have been just to try and get revenge? Explain that to the parents and the injured player.

To be fair to the Trojans and the coach...can you remember how long it took you guys to score two touchdowns in the first quarter? Sure we could have put in second team but simply to make sure the best ball handlers were in the game is good sense. Our best fumbled in the first quarter and you capitalized. I think they did the right thing and they could have scored. Lineweaver is not at all a pad the score coach. He pulled our team in every game after half time or at most after the first team ran a series. Taking care of the ball was smart. If we had scored it would not have been revenge. The pig situation is not to be blamed on the masses, it was one person. Trinity fans do have class. If the refs had given us Trevor's first touchdown (before the fumble) and you didnt return the ball for a TD perhaps the end would have been different. Why would anyone take a chance with only a minute or so to go with something going very wrong. The Rockets were a good team and their fans were great. Why find fault all the time with someone when clearly the boys played a great game ..both teams.

[chhspantherfan]

Farmerfan, as an honorary Trojan thank you for your support. You are one of the best posters on the board. You do a good job of giving a fair and honest assesment of things and i can appreciate that. Thank you for your recognition and support, this class of kids was a special group and we are proud of them.

:cool:

[Austin109]

:cool:

I agree. Farmer is knowledgeable enough that even fan bases who hate him can love him.

[chhspantherfan]

I agree. Farmer is knowledgeable enough that even fan bases who hate him can love him.

too bad that fair and honest changed meanings....

[- sTp -]

for a second there I thought he was back..

[da hawaiian]

Pantherfan archive diving again?

[chhspantherfan]

for a second there I thought he was back..


http://www.minnkotamotors.com/_ui/sramk08/img/noflash/trolling_motors.jpg

[Austin109]

too bad that fair and honest changed meanings....

fair and honest are great except when its negative to you

[chhspantherfan]

fair and honest are great except when its negative to you

the irony is the meaning never changes, people do. The level of namby pamby everyone gets a ribbon thinking makes me laugh.

[DPaul]

Alot of whining on page 1 huh?

[DPaul]

Just to clarify Trinity having no class trying to score a touchdown at the end of the game a bunch of malarky, Trevor Vittatoe took the snap on the 1 yard line with 31 seconds on the time clock. Trinity had to run that play or else take a delay of game penalty. At that point, they still would have had to run one more play to start the clock. Instead Vittatoe took the snap with 31 seconds left but didn't make it in. Trinity still had 2 time outs left so if they wanted to score, they could have called a time out. But Coach Lineweaver isn't that kind of a coach. I just played the tape of the game to get these stats in case anyone wonders where this info came from.

The Trinity fan dressed as a pig that went on the Judson side is not the typical Trinity fan. He was an embarassment to me and other Trinity fans around me for doing that stupid act.

Congratulations to Judson for a good season. I'm sure we'll meet again!

That last sentence. You were right on. :notworthy

[Super B]

I've read this thread before.

[trojanbacker]

Panther is dumpster diving this week.......


http://wtfman.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/dumpster-dive-flickr-diegofuego.jpg

[twcpfan1]

Farmer did the 180 on Trinity during the Westlake postgame chatter. Boss Hawg stopped posting too. (under that handle anyway)

[Trojanalum693]

Whatever happened to Farmer?

[stinger]

Farmer did the 180 on Trinity during the Westlake postgame chatter. Boss Hawg stopped posting too. (under that handle anyway)



OHHH the memories.

[chhspantherfan]

OHHH the memories.

;)

[twcpfan1]

Whatever happened to Farmer?

could not coexist with the trinity and southlake fans.

called southlake people a bunch of poofs for moving their graduation ceremony indoors.

[baylordad]

could not coexist with the trinity and southlake fans.

called southlake people a bunch of poofs for moving their graduation ceremony indoors.

This Trinity Fan had no problem with farmerfan.

[chhspantherfan]

This Trinity Fan had no problem with farmerfan.

unfortunately, not all are as rational as you are. ;)

[JagFan]

This Trinity Fan had no problem with farmerfan.

He told me I could tell you he never had any problems with you either. Lot's of respect. ;)

[trojanbacker]

unfortunately, not all are as rational as you are. ;)

I don't think it was strictly a Trinity or Southlake problem. He was recently banned over at Rivals, too.

[thestud]

I don't think it was strictly a Trinity or Southlake problem. He was recently banned over at Rivals, too.

Haha yeah for calling your guys over there everything that they are, that was hilarious.

[chhspantherfan]

I don't think it was strictly a Trinity or Southlake problem. He was recently banned over at Rivals, too.

how many boards do you monitor?:p

[trojanbacker]

Haha yeah for calling your guys over there everything that they are, that was hilarious.

Actually, he was banned for using some words I can't post here in regards to the guys who run this site.

[trojanbacker]

how many boards do you monitor?:p

Two football, one tetherball, one baseball and one Dancing With the Stars.

[drgnbkr]

How about we do a board re-set. Everyone comes back and has a new name and a clean slate to start over.

[trojanbacker]

How about we do a board re-set. Everyone comes back and has a new name and a clean slate to start over.

Everyone deserves a fresh start or two.

[drgnbkr]

Everyone deserves a fresh start or two.

I mean all of us..Everyone gets a new name - avatar if they want - and post count set back to zero. New board.?

[twcpfan1]

I mean all of us..Everyone gets a new name - avatar if they want - and post count set back to zero. New board.?

I think Cindy Stein (commentator for the Big 12 tournament) just said the F word on Fox Sports.

[thestud]

Actually, he was banned for using some words I can't post here in regards to the guys who run this site.

No, the guys at rivals couldn't care less what he says about this site, it was his lambasting of a couple of folks who also happen to post here as well.

[trojanbacker]

No, the guys at rivals couldn't care less what he says about this site, it was his lambasting of a couple of folks who also happen to post here as well.

Nope. He referred to the guys who run this board as something I won't repeat here and Dallas Jackson shut him down. Go ask him. I did.

[trojanbacker]

I think Cindy Stein (commentator for the Big 12 tournament) just said the F word on Fox Sports.

Whoah. Did she get beeped?

[twcpfan1]

Whoah. Did she get beeped?

Nope. no 7 second delay I guess.

[DPaul]

Two football, one tetherball, one baseball and one Dancing With the Stars.

:rofl:

[stinger]

No, the guys at rivals couldn't care less what he says about this site, it was his lambasting of a couple of folks who also happen to post here as well.

So...you personally know the guys at the Rivals board and they told you he was banned because he.............interesting

[BlakeJ]

farmer should be allowed to post. He was banned for being a nuisance to the community, yet the majority of the community want him back. Farmer is a BIG reason this board was as interesting as it "was". His posts alone drew people to come in and post and continue to post.

It wasn't just the SLC and Trojan folks. Those particular fan bases have always been soft as charmin tissue on this board, but most of us remain on the board despite their reporting and crying.

I think a big part of it was farmer and the admins inability to coexist as well. I think it was easier for them to ban him forever then deal with the numerous reported posts or go behind him and clean up some of the language and animosity.

Whether they want to admit it or not. Those 2 fan bases who participated are just as guilty as farmer. Just my 2 cents.

[chhspantherfan]

So...you personally know the guys at the Rivals board and they told you he was banned because he.............interesting

there is a thread on rivals about his 14 day banning. ;)

[trojanbacker]

farmer should be allowed to post. He was banned for being a nuisance to the community, yet the majority of the community want him back. Farmer is a BIG reason this board was as interesting as it "was". His posts alone drew people to come in and post and continue to post.

It wasn't just the SLC and Trojan folks. Those particular fan bases have always been soft as charmin tissue on this board, but most of us remain on the board despite their reporting and crying.

I think a big part of it was farmer and the admins inability to coexist as well. I think it was easier for them to ban him forever then deal with the numerous reported posts or go behind him and clean up some of the language and animosity.

Whether they want to admit it or not. Those 2 fan bases who participated are just as guilty as farmer. Just my 2 cents.

I'm confused. Those on the board who didn't care for the name-calling and junior high chest thumping are the reasons he was banned?

I enjoyed reading his stuff but never really understood his need to lob grenades just to get a reaction out of people. Unfortunately for him, his points were often lost in the fallout because of the way the message was delivered.

[thestud]

Nope. He referred to the guys who run this board as something I won't repeat here and Dallas Jackson shut him down. Go ask him. I did.

You're either lying or misinformed, farmer wasn't banned from rivals for anything 5a related. He was banned for calling tt80 and stuperB a bunch of names, all of which were accurate and well deserved.

[stinger]

farmer should be allowed to post. He was banned for being a nuisance to the community, yet the majority of the community want him back. Farmer is a BIG reason this board was as interesting as it "was". His posts alone drew people to come in and post and continue to post.

It wasn't just the SLC and Trojan folks. Those particular fan bases have always been soft as charmin tissue on this board, but most of us remain on the board despite their reporting and crying.

I think a big part of it was farmer and the admins inability to coexist as well. I think it was easier for them to ban him forever then deal with the numerous reported posts or go behind him and clean up some of the language and animosity.

Whether they want to admit it or not. Those 2 fan bases who participated are just as guilty as farmer. Just my 2 cents.


Here's your change sir...2cents. I won't go into a pi##ing contest, but there was a LOT more than what you say. There was also some very hostile relationships between him and others that needed to be removed from the board. I am not here to judge who was right or wrong, but this forum was not the place to expose those issues. Threats were made one way or the other, again, not my time to accuse or judge, but they needed to be handled away from here. I too miss FF at times. Mostly due to his expertise and viewpoints on the topic of football, not personal bashing and in forum outside forum relationships. He and I had some good times going back and forth on football. Are you sure that the ONLY two teams' fans that he got in to it with was Trinity and SLC? Expand more on the "reporting"...to whom and what was said.

[TrinityTrojan299]

I'm confused. Those on the board who didn't care for the name-calling and junior high chest thumping are the reasons he was banned?

I enjoyed reading his stuff but never really understood his need to lob grenades just to get a reaction out of people. Unfortunately for him, his points were often lost in the fallout because of the way the message was delivered.



This...

[JagFan]

I'm confused. Those on the board who didn't care for the name-calling and junior high chest thumping are the reasons he was banned?

I enjoyed reading his stuff but never really understood his need to lob grenades just to get a reaction out of people. Unfortunately for him, his points were often lost in the fallout because of the way the message was delivered.

Or received.

[trojanbacker]

Or received.

Or perceived.

[trojanbacker]

You're either lying or misinformed, farmer wasn't banned from rivals for anything 5a related. He was banned for calling tt80 and stuperB a bunch of names, all of which were accurate and well deserved.

So, you support the use of hate speech like that used by Farmer such as "fa**ot" in describing people on the board who are talking about high school football? Interesting.

[JagFan]

Or perceived.

that too.

[BlakeJ]

Or perceived.

I guess my point is that if you ever feel the need to report a post another grown up has made on an internet message board....you yourself shouldn't be here. You should be in front of the mirror working on your people skills.

I just can't ever imagine myself getting soooooo mad at something someone posted on the internet that I would feel the need to go "tell" on them. Just seems kind of girly to me.

[drgnbkr]

I say let him back on here so we can argue with him, not about him.

[JagFan]

I say let him back on here so we can argue with him, not about him.

This!

[trojanbacker]

I guess my point is that if you ever feel the need to report a post another grown up has made on an internet message board....you yourself shouldn't be here. You should be in front of the mirror working on your people skills.

I just can't ever imagine myself getting soooooo mad at something someone posted on the internet that I would feel the need to go "tell" on them. Just seems kind of girly to me.

I understand that. Or, you could expect adults to act like adults and be able to have a simple conversation about a game without blowing up, while at the same time violating the rules under which they are posting.

[trojanbacker]

I say let him back on here so we can argue with him, not about him.

That's a genius idea right there.

[JagFan]

I understand that. Or, you could expect adults to act like adults and be able to have a simple conversation about a game without blowing up, while at the same time violating the rules under which they are posting.

That was a two way street. And the ones that could dish it out but not take it need to be perma banned as well then.

[BlakeJ]

I understand that. Or, you could expect adults to act like adults and be able to have a simple conversation about a game without blowing up, while at the same time violating the rules under which they are posting.

I understand both sides of the argument. However...I've witnessed alot of the epic and storied confrontations and the outcome was almost always to blame on both sides. This site has a bunch of posters I like to call "lures". They are smart posters. Most of them older. They know they can cowardly control an argument or situation they are involved in by luring certain posters into crossing boundaries.

The SLC folks MASTERED that art with farmer. They knew exactly how to get him to his boiling point in a nonchalant manner. Is it farmer's fault for blowing up? Yes, but at the same time...if the lures weren't out luring...it likely wouldn't have happened.

This place has become a haven for those posters and IMO..this place will continue to be "uninteresting" most of the time the more the farmer type characters are pushed away and the cowardly conservative type posters settle their nests.

Again...just my opinion.

[BlakeJ]

That was a two way street sir and the names and whining that went on by some against him were just awful. Please do not act like he was the bad one and nobody did anything to him. I saw the threatening texts and saw when his family names were posted. I saw where he would make a comment and of course the ego of some fans assumed it was all about them. I remember very well being stalked at my own stadium and called out on this board because gasp he sat with me and my family. So I must be bad as well. He was called names and people acted very small against him.

So no do not sit here like anyone is any better than Farmer. No sir you or any poster on here is not.

Again some can dish it out but cannot take it. He took it they couldn't and IMO they are the ones who should leave.

:notworthy

Stealing a Carl Dukes saying...........

"Love it when genius comes to the board."

[thestud]

So, you support the use of hate speech like that used by Farmer such as "fa**ot" in describing people on the board who are talking about high school football? Interesting.

Wait what? I thought you said farmer was bad mouthing the admins of this site? Hmmm, your nose is growing Pinocchio

[JagFan]

:notworthy

Stealing a Carl Dukes saying...........

"Love it when genius comes to the board."

I edited it, I don't like getting ugly but dang I can't stand it when people cannot look in the mirror.

[trojanbacker]

That was a two way street sir and the names and whining that went on by some against him were just awful. Please do not act like he was the bad one and nobody did anything to him. I saw the threatening texts and saw when his family names were posted. I saw where he would make a comment and of course the ego of some fans assumed it was all about them. I remember very well being stalked at my own stadium and called out on this board because gasp he sat with me and my family. So I must be bad as well.

So no do not sit here like anyone is any better than Farmer. No sir you or any poster on here is not.

Again some can dish it out but cannot take it. He took it they couldn't and IMO they are the ones who should leave.

I appreciate your use of "sir". That is more respect than I probably deserve.

However, I have no clue about texts, threats, who-sits-with-whom, etc. If that happened, then I hope appropriate action was taken. They would deserve it.

Never said a word about being better than anyone, espcially someone I know only by a nickname on a message board. In fact, I probably know less about the game than 99% of those posting here. My points were about the need to use the language he (and others) did. I think most of us in here love the game, and love discussing it. There is never a reason to flame someone just because they happen to hold a view different from yours.

In my opinion, he did it because he loved to get a reaction out of people, and that's entertaining, to a point, I guess. He was like the guy at a campout who tosses the rubber snake into the tent and then stands back to watch people scramble.

I'm really confused by your last point. I guess you're saying that those of us who just want to talk about football without going ballistic or being subjected to a bunch of sophomoric name calling should not be here. I will respectfully disagree.

[slcdragonfan]

I understand both sides of the argument. However...I've witnessed alot of the epic and storied confrontations and the outcome was almost always to blame on both sides. This site has a bunch of posters I like to call "lures". They are smart posters. Most of them older. They know they can cowardly control an argument or situation they are involved in by luring certain posters into crossing boundaries.

The SLC folks MASTERED that art with farmer. They knew exactly how to get him to his boiling point in a nonchalant manner. Is it farmer's fault for blowing up? Yes, but at the same time...if the lures weren't out luring...it likely wouldn't have happened.

This place has become a haven for those posters and IMO..this place will continue to be "uninteresting" most of the time the more the farmer type characters are pushed away and the cowardly conservative type posters settle their nests.

Again...just my opinion.

WTF are you talking about?

Let me say this, I like FF and enjoy his postings. Did I have run-ins? yes, many did. Did I ever report FF? No. Do I consider him a personal friend? Yes. Do I think he goes WAY over the top sometimes? YES.

Here's the deal though. What about personal responsibility? Here you are saying it is someone else's fault that FF acted poorly. WHAT? It is his responsibility to act appropriately. You are big with the blame game, but not so much with the personal responsibility part.

You in fact are one of the worst at doing what you accuse the SLC fanbase of doing. Pot, meet kettle.:rolleyes:

Now, why don't you quit whining about it and accept life as it is? FF can come back ANY TIME by simply creating a new alias and controlling his responses. Simple. He CHOOSES not to come back.

All this hand-wringing about "the good old days" makes you guys sound like you are the ones that should be in manpers, not us ODB's. Get over it.

[BlakeJ]

I appreciate your use of "sir". That is more respect than I probably deserve.

However, I have no clue about texts, threats, who-sits-with-whom, etc. If that happened, then I hope appropriate action was taken. They would deserve it.

Never said a word about being better than anyone, espcially someone I know only by a nickname on a message board. In fact, I probably know less about the game than 99% of those posting here. My points were about the need to use the language he (and others) did. I think most of us in here love the game, and love discussing it. There is never a reason to flame someone just because they happen to hold a view different from yours.

He did it because he loved to get a reaction out of people, and that's entertaining, to a point, I guess. He was like the guy at a campout who tosses the rubber snake into the tent and then stands back to watch people scramble.

I'm really confused by your last point. I guess you're saying that those of us who just want to talk about football without going ballistic or being subjected to a bunch of sophomoric name calling should not be here. I will respectfully disagree.

Is that why he did it or said the things he said? Did he tell you that or are you assuming that?

[trojanbacker]

Is that why he did it or said the things he said? Did he tell you that or are you assuming that?

My opinion only. Should I go back and edit my response?

[slcdragonfan]

My opinion only. Should I go back and edit my response?

Yes, because anyone who disagrees is wrong.

[trojanbacker]

Yes, because anyone who disagrees is wrong.

Man, I love a day off from work, some caffeine and nothing better to do than engage in a circular discussion on a message board!

[JagFan]

I appreciate your use of "sir". That is more respect than I probably deserve.

However, I have no clue about texts, threats, who-sits-with-whom, etc. If that happened, then I hope appropriate action was taken. They would deserve it.

Never said a word about being better than anyone, espcially someone I know only by a nickname on a message board. In fact, I probably know less about the game than 99% of those posting here. My points were about the need to use the language he (and others) did. I think most of us in here love the game, and love discussing it. There is never a reason to flame someone just because they happen to hold a view different from yours.

He did it because he loved to get a reaction out of people, and that's entertaining, to a point, I guess. He was like the guy at a campout who tosses the rubber snake into the tent and then stands back to watch people scramble.

I'm really confused by your last point. I guess you're saying that those of us who just want to talk about football without going ballistic or being subjected to a bunch of sophomoric name calling should not be here. I will respectfully disagree.

See that is what gets me. Everybody supposedly knows just how awful Farmer is but then don't bother to think or look and see what was done and said to him. Yes, he was called just as bad or worse than he called them and no they were not in trouble, they went whining saying oh look what Farmer did to me, he is so bad. Can he be over the top? Yes, so were they and you know what at least he is man enough to admit it. And no only one was banned for naming his family names and that was only for two weeks. To me that is a perma ban offense.

He was accused of saying awful things about a Trinity family and when that family came on here and posted and said Farmer did no such thing not one had the balls to say sorry or we were wrong.

The person that called me out about my stadium nothing was done to them. Of course not because we all know just how awful Farmer is and anybody that is friends with him is bad and we can do whatever we want to her.

So looking back over all of this. He is the better one. He can admit fault and look in the mirror. Nobody ever did with him.

[BlakeJ]

My opinion only. Should I go back and edit my response?

Absolutely not. Yes...just your opinion, but I am willing to bet that you are wrong.

[trojanbacker]

See that is what gets me. Everybody supposedly knows just how awful Farmer is but then don't bother to think or look and see what was done and said to him. Yes, he was called just as bad or worse than he called them and no they were not in trouble, they went whining saying oh look what Farmer did to me, he is so bad. Can he be over the top? Yes, so were they and you know what at least he is man enough to admit it. And no only one was banned for naming his family names and that was only for two weeks. To me that is a perma ban offense.

He was accused of saying awful things about a Trinity family and when that family came on here and posted and said Farmer did no such thing not one had the balls to say sorry or we were wrong.

The person that called me out about my stadium nothing was done to them. Of course not because we all know just how awful Farmer is and anybody that is friends with him is bad and we can do whatever we want to her.

So looking back over all of this. He is the better one. He can admit fault and look in the mirror. Nobody ever did with him.

I'm obviously in over my head here. I have no clue what you're talking about in the first three paragraphs. Clearly a lot going on that I didn't know about. My only point remains that there is a way that adults can talk about high school football on a message board, and there are rules that govern these things. Most of us abide by the rules; some don't. They're the ones who get banned.

[JagFan]

I'm obviously in over my head here. I have no clue what you're talking about in the first three paragraphs. Clearly a lot going on that I didn't know about. My only point remains that there is a way that adults can talk about high school football on a message board, and there are rules that govern these things. Most of us abide by the rules; some don't. They're the ones who get banned.

If you don't know then no you can't have an opinion on what Farmer did or didn't do. Because you don't know everything. I agree if rules aren't followed they should be banned. ALL OF THEM!

[drgnbkr]

This thread has it all...Who needs the old days when you have this?:yes:

[trojanbacker]

Absolutely not. Yes...just your opinion, but I am willing to bet that you are wrong.

And, if I'm wrong -- and believe me it wouldn't be the first time, just ask my wife -- I'll say "wow, I was wrong."

[slcdragonfan]

This thread has it all...Who needs the old days when you have this?:yes:

MOAR cussing....

[pied]

I say let him back on here so we can argue with him, not about him.

agree 100%

[trojanbacker]

If you don't know then no you can't have an opinion on what Farmer did or didn't do. Because you don't know everything. I agree if rules aren't followed they should be banned. ALL OF THEM!

1. Never said anything about what he did or didn't do in those things you were talking about. I wouldn't know what any of that was about.

2. I readily admit to not knowing everything. Heck, I thought Trinity was going to roll Pearland.

[trojanbacker]

This thread has it all...Who needs the old days when you have this?:yes:

Can we please bring back the "Texas teams is skeered to play out of state" discussion? It had more drama.

[slcdragonfan]

Can we please bring back the "Texas teams is skeered to play out of state" discussion? It had more drama.

It is not all texas teams, only Trinity. Oh, wait.....

I guess just SLC now....

[Super B]

farmer should be allowed to post. He was banned for being a nuisance to the community, yet the majority of the community want him back. Farmer is a BIG reason this board was as interesting as it "was". His posts alone drew people to come in and post and continue to post.

It wasn't just the SLC and Trojan folks. Those particular fan bases have always been soft as charmin tissue on this board, but most of us remain on the board despite their reporting and crying.

I think a big part of it was farmer and the admins inability to coexist as well. I think it was easier for them to ban him forever then deal with the numerous reported posts or go behind him and clean up some of the language and animosity.

Whether they want to admit it or not. Those 2 fan bases who participated are just as guilty as farmer. Just my 2 cents.
I shouldn't respond, but...

27 people who vote on a poll do not represent the majority of a community of over 16,000 members.
27 people who vote on a poll do not represent the majority of members who have at least 1,000 post. About 300.
27 people who voted on a poll do not represent the majority of members who have been active in the last year. Over 2,400.
27 people who voted on a poll do not represent the majority of members who joined 5ATXFB in the first year. Over 1,600.
27 people who voted on a poll do not represent the majority of members who joined 5ATXFB within the last year. Over 900.

[trojanbacker]

It is not all texas teams, only Trinity. Oh, wait.....

I guess just SLC now....

Yeah, get with the program. There's a team in New Jersey you should go play. Actually, I'd love to see ya'll go to Kentucky and play the other Trinity.

[JagFan]

Can we please bring back the "Texas teams is skeered to play out of state" discussion? It had more drama.

You know what Farmer would be the first to say kudos to Trinity for going out of state.

I am sorry I really did not mean to rant but there is so much more to the story and I cannot stand it when people say he was wrong and not say others were too. He was in some cases and so were others.

[slcdragonfan]

Yeah, get with the program. There's a team in New Jersey you should go play. Actually, I'd love to see ya'll go to Kentucky and play the other Trinity.

I think we should play home and home with an Oklahoma team. Close enough so we could road trip, but out of state so we could party-on.

But we are getting too far off-topic. We should be whining about something.

[pied]

Yeah, get with the program. There's a team in New Jersey you should go play. Actually, I'd love to see ya'll go to Kentucky and play the other Trinity.

I'd prefer to talk about how sainted coaches would never take their teams out of state because it doesn't mean anything and doesn't help you win the only goal a team from Texas ever has and that is winning the state title.

[BlakeJ]

I shouldn't respond, but...

27 people who vote on a poll do not represent the majority of a community of over 16,000 members.
27 people who vote on a poll do not represent the majority of members who have at least 1,000 post. About 300.
27 people who voted on a poll do not represent the majority of members who have been active in the last year.
27 people who voted on a poll do not represent the majority of members who joined 5ATXFB in the first year. Over 1,600
27 people who voted on a poll do not represent the majority of members who joined 5ATXFB within the last year.

But its a good representation and a trend. Let me guess....all the people who don't want farmer back didn't see the poll? Alot of the people here who are saying...bring farmer back...didn't even vote...that number now goes up and probably would be about the same if the vote is spread across the entire community. You really think 16,000 people participate here day to day...maybe only a couple hundred at MOST are active on this board enough to even vote...out of those votes...only 80 or so know what the heck we are talking about.

[BlakeJ]

It is not all texas teams, only Trinity. Oh, wait.....

I guess just SLC now....

This guy here is a very good example of a lure. Alot of these guys still bait farmer even though he hasn't been here for months. Just as guilty.

[slcdragonfan]

This guy here is a very good example of a lure. Alot of these guys still bait farmer even though he hasn't been here for months. Just as guilty.

Ask Farmer if I bait him. Just ask. I'll await your response, but not with bated breath.

[twcpfan1]

Man, I love a day off from work, some caffeine and nothing better to do than engage in a circular discussion on a message board!

you have to admit, it's cheaper than dropping a heap of 20's on a stripper for table dances.

[trojanbacker]

You know what Farmer would be the first to say kudos to Trinity for going out of state.

I am sorry I really did not mean to rant but there is so much more to the story and I cannot stand it when people say he was wrong and not say others were too. He was in some cases and so were others.

No problem here. I clearly don't know all the behind the scenes stuff and it's probably best that I just mind my own business about these things.

This is what happens when I have too much time on my hands and too much caffeine.

[trojanbacker]

you have to admit, it's cheaper than dropping a heap of 20's on a stripper for table dances.

$20's? Things sure have changed since my last trip to one of those joints back in the old days.

[JagFan]

No problem here. I clearly don't know all the behind the scenes stuff and it's probably best that I just mind my own business about these things.

This is what happens when I have too much time on my hands and too much caffeine.

LOL I am in the same boat. slow day at work and I will admit I am very defensive about my friends and family. ;)

[trojanbacker]

I'd prefer to talk about how sainted coaches would never take their teams out of state because it doesn't mean anything and doesn't help you win the only goal a team from Texas ever has and that is winning the state title.

I love this discussion! It's the ultimate unwinnable argument. And, the sainthood is a nice touch. Good post.

[drgnbkr]

Ask Farmer if I bait him. Just ask. I'll await your response, but not with bated breath.

Baited

[slcdragonfan]

Baited

Perch, bass, or catfish?

Or, SHARK?

[pied]

I love this discussion! It's the ultimate unwinnable argument. And, the sainthood is a nice touch. Good post.

Several Texas HS coaches have, including one of the all time winningest.

[drgnbkr]

Perch, bass, or catfish?

Or, SHARK?

Worm

[slcdragonfan]

Worm

Ima not going there, somebody might report me. :)

Probably some Longview person, you know how they are.....;)

NOTE: just kidding Longview people.

[twcpfan1]

just saw on twitter that jim irsay just signed trevor vittatoe

[BlakeJ]

See luring above. Same ole suspects. Over 50. Wealthy. Think they are better than people. Puffers not players.

[trojanbacker]

Perch, bass, or catfish?

Or, SHARK?

Bait or reprobate.

[Trojanalum693]

could not coexist with the trinity and southlake fans.

called southlake people a bunch of poofs for moving their graduation ceremony indoors.


I may have had my disagreements with Farmer but I never hated him. Too bad i had some great discussions with him on this board about so many different things.

[trojanbacker]

See luring above. Same ole suspects. Over 50. Wealthy. Think they are better than people. Puffers not players.

Ageism AND class warfare! I tell ya, this thread has it all today. Very entertaining.

[yankee]

See luring above. Same ole suspects. Over 50. Wealthy. Think they are better than people. Puffers not players.

Don't know why you're getting so fussy over baited comments. Most "veterans" on this site do it at some point. I've lured you. You've lured me. Everyone does it. It then turns into a matter of who responds and how they respond.

[BlakeJ]

Don't know why you're getting so fussy over baited comments. Most "veterans" on this site do it at some point. I've lured you. You've lured me. Everyone does it. It then turns into a matter of who responds and how they respond.

I 100% agree.

Thus making my point. The admins and everyone else want to blame the response, and just give a pass to the reason behind the response. Both parties are guilty and both parties should be held responsible if you are going to start banning people. They are part of the problem as well.

[drgnbkr]

See luring above. Same ole suspects. Over 50. Wealthy. Think they are better than people. Puffers not players.

You're a player?

[twcpfan1]

Ageism AND class warfare! I tell ya, this thread has it all today. Very entertaining.

you don't know the half of it. just found out recently that somebody went brett favre on a female poster. (unless of course they were pulling my leg) :rofl:

yep this board's had it all :D

[yankee]

I 100% agree.

Thus making my point. The admins and everyone else want to blame the response, and just give a pass to the reason behind the response. Both parties are guilty and both parties should be held responsible if you are going to start banning people. They are part of the problem as well.

Don't know how you can justify someone blowing up because they don't have the maturity to let a baited comment go. Or the maturity to not let it turn into a grudge. We all have moments of weakness and give in and take the bait or continue to set the bait. The last time I was banned was a couple months ago or whenever that was, and I'm sure it was because I both got lured and set the lures. Thing is, most of us don't do it over and over and over again...unlike some people who are no longer here.

[BlakeJ]

Don't know how you can justify someone blowing up because they don't have the maturity to let a baited comment go. Or the maturity to not let it turn into a grudge. We all have moments of weakness and give in and take the bait or continue to set the bait. The last time I was banned was a couple months ago or whenever that was, and I'm sure it was because I both got lured and set the lures. Thing is, most of us don't do it over and over and over again...unlike some people who are no longer here.

There are some of your fellow elder green guys who bait over and over and over again. They still bait farmer and he isnt even here.

[thestud]

Actually, he was banned for using some words I can't post here in regards to the guys who run this site.

Nope. He referred to the guys who run this board as something I won't repeat here and Dallas Jackson shut him down. Go ask him. I did.

You're either lying or misinformed, farmer wasn't banned from rivals for anything 5a related. He was banned for calling tt80 and stuperB a bunch of names, all of which were accurate and well deserved.

So, you support the use of hate speech like that used by Farmer such as "fa**ot" in describing people on the board who are talking about high school football? Interesting.

Wait what? I thought you said farmer was bad mouthing the admins of this site? Hmmm, your nose is growing Pinocchio

Hmm, interesting. I'm still waiting for your response

[twcpfan1]

heck, you might as well bring him back. the arguments have not subsided with his departure. of course, if panther keeps resurrecting 7 y/o threads...

[stinger]

you have to admit, it's cheaper than dropping a heap of 20's on a stripper for table dances.

Yep...they both get a rise out of you...lol:yes:;)

[slcdragonfan]

There are some of your fellow elder green guys who bait over and over and over again. They still bait farmer and he isnt even here.

BlakeJ is the Master Baiter, so he knows what he is talking about. Don't argue with him because if he gets banned it will be your fault for what he does. Personal responsibility.

[drgnbkr]

Yep...they both get a rise out of you...lol:yes:;)

:D:notworthy

[BlakeJ]

BlakeJ is the Master Baiter, so he knows what he is talking about. Don't argue with him because if he gets banned it will be your fault for what he does. Personal responsibility.

Nice try...but you lose. That's why you are offended....the truth hurts.

[slcdragonfan]

Nice try...but you lose. That's why you are offended....the truth hurts.

yo no offended. And I have no pain, at least in regards to this issue. I am just tired of the whining and moaning and groaning and blaming fanbases and other people. I am responsible for my actions and take full credit or blame for them. Some on here take that approach when it comes to others, but not when it applies to them or their friends. You for example.

I am a FoF, even though I think he gets way out of hand at times. He has done some things that I think were atrociously out of line, but not to me and I haven't done it to him. when I thought I had, I apologized.

But this isn't really about him, it is just another way for you to take your not-so-subtle digs at a fanbase and be clever with your bullying ways. I have you completely figured out. HUGE ego, you fill in the rest.

[stinger]

BlakeJ is the Master Baiter, so he knows what he is talking about. Don't argue with him because if he gets banned it will be your fault for what he does. Personal responsibility.


Oh no you didn't!!! Here we go..POW ...right to the moon!

[slcdragonfan]

Oh no you didn't!!! Here we go..POW ...right to the moon!

yeah, he's been talking about us for months.
Little pieces here and there, dropping them in, the way bullies do to kids in school. Nothing overt, just little cuts here and there. You tolerate it for a while, then get fed up and face 'em down.

[JagFan]

yo no offended. And I have no pain, at least in regards to this issue. I am just tired of the whining and moaning and groaning and blaming fanbases and other people. I am responsible for my actions and take full credit or blame for them. Some on here take that approach when it comes to others, but not when it applies to them or their friends. You for example.

I am a FoF, even though I think he gets way out of hand at times. He has done some things that I think were atrociously out of line, but not to me and I haven't done it to him. when I thought I had, I apologized.

But this isn't really about him, it is just another way for you to take your not-so-subtle digs at a fanbase and be clever with your bullying ways. I have you completely figured out. HUGE ego, you fill in the rest.

Nobody has said Farmer is innocent we just blame the other people that did just as bad as him as well. Tired of the oh Farmer is so mean and bad people on here when they are just as bad. They even do things like try and find out who you are by thinking they can follow you on twitter. :)

[chhspantherfan]

heck, you might as well bring him back. the arguments have not subsided with his departure. of course, if panther keeps resurrecting 7 y/o threads...

I have my orders:cool:

[da hawaiian]

I have my agenda:cool:

fify :heli:

[chhspantherfan]

fify :heli:

:p the facts are irrelevant, perception is the gravity of the matter.

[da hawaiian]

:p the facts are irrelevant, perception is the gravity of the matter.

Too deep for me :)

[chhspantherfan]

Too deep for me :)

you going to Seattle?

[da hawaiian]

you going to Seattle?

Probably, waiting for spring ball first ;)

[yankee]

I am responsible for my actions and take full credit or blame for them. Some on here take that approach when it comes to others, but not when it applies to them or their friends.

So true.

[thestud]

Squeak, squeak squeak squeak...

[BlakeJ]

Here's a fact. If farmerfan was "dragon fan", you guys wouldn't give 2 craps what he said. You'd even support his actions.

[chhspantherfan]

Here's a fact. If farmerfan was "dragon fan", you guys wouldn't give 2 craps what he said. You'd even support his actions.

get off the boone's farm there dakota, this is the trinity thread.

[BlakeJ]

You still don't look smart. You look dumber than I think you sound via keyboard. Comprende?

[dragonpants]

Here's a fact. If farmerfan was "dragon fan", you guys wouldn't give 2 craps what he said. You'd even support his actions.

That is where you are wrong and I am jumping in. We are critical of each other and I get grief from Dragon fans all the time. Lot's of it in PM so it is not public but I have criticized other dragon fans as well as posters from other teams.
I think you make huge mistakes when you categorize and entire fan base. Each team has good posters and bad ones. I do not base my thoughts of Marcus on Hero or Katy on your or any specific member of the fan base. I think there are idiot Trinity posters but by and large they are great and they could all suck but DaHawaiian,299 and Baylor Dad would make up for all of them and they are 3 of many. There are Dragon posters that get on peoples nerves, sometimes it is me but that is true of all fan bases. I think that there are so many of us that it may appear to worse than it is.

[chhspantherfan]

You still don't look smart. You look dumber than I think you sound via keyboard. Comprende?

sure, I understand. What's with the spanish, you stop a border short?

[E-Vol-ution]

Here's a fact. If farmerfan was "dragon fan", you guys wouldn't give 2 craps what he said. You'd even support his actions.

http://ts3.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=4695782718636062&id=d63b7c2ee4c74ffc6430cbe4ddaf546b&index=newexp

[drgnbkr]

http://ts3.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=4695782718636062&id=d63b7c2ee4c74ffc6430cbe4ddaf546b&index=newexp

I hate it when facts come into play!

[slcdragonfan]

Here's a fact. If farmerfan was "dragon fan", you guys wouldn't give 2 craps what he said. You'd even support his actions.

prove that's a fact. Waiting......

[Super B]

Here's a fact. If farmerfan was "dragon fan", you guys wouldn't give 2 craps what he said. You'd even support his actions.
Nah. There's a few Trinity fans on this board I am not a big fan of. The biggest difference is, ff NEVER stops. He's relentless. :)

[Tom]

Nah. There's a few Trinity fans on this board I am not a big fan of. The biggest difference is, ff NEVER stops. He's relentless. :)

He stops when he gets banned.

[thestud]

Actually, he was banned for using some words I can't post here in regards to the guys who run this site.


No, the guys at rivals couldn't care less what he says about this site, it was his lambasting of a couple of folks who also happen to post here as well.

Nope. He referred to the guys who run this board as something I won't repeat here and Dallas Jackson shut him down. Go ask him. I did.

You're either lying or misinformed, farmer wasn't banned from rivals for anything 5a related. He was banned for calling tt80 and stuperB a bunch of names, all of which were accurate and well deserved.

So, you support the use of hate speech like that used by Farmer such as "fa**ot" in describing people on the board who are talking about high school football? Interesting.

Wait what? I thought you said farmer was bad mouthing the admins of this site? Hmmm, your nose is growing Pinocchio

Hmm, interesting. I'm still waiting for your response

And I'm still waiting for your response. I find it interesting how you tried to backtrack and change the subject. I'll just go ahead and put the truth out there since you seem to be intent on spreading lies. Farmer was banned for going off on stuperb and tinytim80, he called them a bunch of names, all of which aptly fit the little twits. Never once did he badmouth the fellers that run this site, he has no reason to, they know exactly how he feels about them. have a great, toll filled day :D

[Tom]

And I'm still waiting for your response. I find it interesting how you tried to backtrack and change the subject. I'll just go ahead and put the truth out there since you seem to be intent on spreading lies. Farmer was banned for going off on stuperb and tinytim80, he called them a bunch of names, all of which aptly fit the little twits. Never once did he badmouth the fellers that run this site, he has no reason to, they know exactly how he feels about them. have a great, toll filled day :D

:mad:

[drgnbkr]

:mad:

"toll filled day" Is that like driving around the Bush all day?

[baylordad]

I will pop a shot here and leave this thread alone. I consider FF a friend and enjoyed every game (Trinity and Playoffs) I attended with him. I have met a whole lot of posters from this site at games. Everywhere from Harlingen to Lubbock, Odessa to Lufkin and all stops in between. It is always cool to meet members of this site no matter where they are from. Everyone I have met were football fans and were great guys and gals. There were more than a few personalities that certainly did not fit what I had imagined by post on the boards. We may jaw bone each other a lot but when you get down to it The Fans and Admins on this site are a pretty cool bunch of folks. :yes:

[BlakeJ]

yo no offended. And I have no pain, at least in regards to this issue. I am just tired of the whining and moaning and groaning and blaming fanbases and other people. I am responsible for my actions and take full credit or blame for them. Some on here take that approach when it comes to others, but not when it applies to them or their friends. You for example.

I am a FoF, even though I think he gets way out of hand at times. He has done some things that I think were atrociously out of line, but not to me and I haven't done it to him. when I thought I had, I apologized.

But this isn't really about him, it is just another way for you to take your not-so-subtle digs at a fanbase and be clever with your bullying ways. I have you completely figured out. HUGE ego, you fill in the rest.

You don't have anything figured out outside of acting like your 20 years younger and stronger than you really are on an internet message board. This place is a perfect place for you.

If you remember...I didn't ressurect this thread. I just posted accordingly. There was a topic at hand and I posted my 2 cents...so no...this wasn't all about bashing certain fanbases. It was talking about how and why this message board has lost certain people that MADE IT what it is today. There just happens to be a couple of folks including yourself from Southlake that are part of the problem with this board of late. Not everyone from Southlake. Matter of fact there are numerous people from perfectville that I respect and enjoy. Even though the Mavs suck...I think SLC93 is a very cool dude. I love that most all the time dragonpants is a straight shooter. You and bkr however...no mi gusta. Just personal preference I guess.

As far as Trinity goes....I don't think I have much of a beef with any of those folks. I think overall they are a sensitive fanbase...some alot more than others, but some of the sites best posters come from that side. Strike out there.

You and I will never see eye to eye...and Im ok with that. IYO I will always be an internet bully with a big ego. IMO you will always be a band geek who is trying to make up for what he wasn't physically able to be in his High School years on a football message board. Band geeks and athletes usually don't make good company. The food chain I guess you could say.

I know some really cool band geeks with that being said. :cool:

Someday this will all come to an end I'm sure. You and your cool friends will eventually run me off the board like you did farmer. Again....all of this is just my opinion. Have a nice day.

[slcdragonfan]

You don't have anything figured out outside of acting like your 20 years younger and stronger than you really are on an internet message board. This place is a perfect place for you.

No, I have you figured out BlakeJ. I have known people like you all my life. Always cocky, arrogant, and full of themselves. That's ok, but not so much when they lift themselves up by pushing other people down. That is what you do.

If you remember...I didn't ressurect this thread. I just posted accordingly. There was a topic at hand and I posted my 2 cents...so no...this wasn't all about bashing certain fanbases. It was talking about how and why this message board has lost certain people that MADE IT what it is today. There just happens to be a couple of folks including yourself from Southlake that are part of the problem with this board of late. Not everyone from Southlake. Matter of fact there are numerous people from perfectville that I respect and enjoy. Even though the Mavs suck...I think SLC93 is a very cool dude. I love that most all the time dragonpants is a straight shooter. You and bkr however...no mi gusta. Just personal preference I guess.

As far as Trinity goes....I don't think I have much of a beef with any of those folks. I think overall they are a sensitive fanbase...some alot more than others, but some of the sites best posters come from that side. Strike out there.

You and I will never see eye to eye...and Im ok with that. IYO I will always be an internet bully with a big ego. IMO you will always be a band geek who is trying to make up for what he wasn't physically able to be in his High School years on a football message board. Band geeks and athletes usually don't make good company. The food chain I guess you could say.

There's your arrogance. Food chain? I guess it depends upon how you measure it.

I know some really cool band geeks with that being said. :cool:

Someday this will all come to an end I'm sure. You and your cool friends will eventually run me off the board like you did farmer. Again....all of this is just my opinion. Have a nice day.
I didn't run Farmer off the board. Did you ever ask him? I am still waiting for your response on my earlier post regarding that. As far as getting run off the board, I am just doing what you say you do, telling the truth as I see it. And if you get perma-banned, take some personal responsibility and blame yourself. If you would just post without the personal attacks, all would be well


This thread is not the first one where you have mentioned Southlake, you have created at least two other threads in recent weeks where you subtly or not so subtly dissed, so don't go all innocent with your "I didn't resurrect this thread" crap.

FF was not run off by the Southlake fanbase. FF was perma-banned by the KT's, but not on Southlake's behalf to the best of my knowledge. They are your BFF, so ask them about it, you claimed to have inside info before, ask Dada even.

[thestud]

O where o where has Trojanbacker gone? You were so intent on spreading lies, don't go run away now. Come back with it or apologize for lying, don't just run away like a little stuperb.

[BlakeJ]

This thread is not the first one where you have mentioned Southlake, you have created at least two other threads in recent weeks where you subtly or not so subtly dissed, so don't go all innocent with your "I didn't resurrect this thread" crap.

FF was not run off by the Southlake fanbase. FF was perma-banned by the KT's, but not on Southlake's behalf to the best of my knowledge. They are your BFF, so ask them about it, you claimed to have inside info before, ask Dada even.

farmerfan asked me to point this out for you. Your belief in taking personal responsibility. Being given a week ban...then asking for it to be shortened. Certainly you would have a problem with this guys inability to take personable responsibility correct? Or even his friends inability to recognize personal responsibility at this point and time.

I am responsible for my actions and take full credit or blame for them. Some on here take that approach when it comes to others, but not when it applies to them or their friends.

Due to the unusual circumstances the KT's have graciously shortened 'pants ban. Perhaps he will share his thoughts regarding a fox tat.

dragonpants gets banned for a week. slcdf steps to the plate for his buddy and promotes a shortening of sentence for his dear friend despite him creating a thread that is against the board rules. A couple weeks later he's banned again for some mix up with hero that I heard was ugly.

farmerfan and swm are permabanned and their friends step up to plate for them and ask for a shortening of sentence. We are a bunch of whiners who don't understand the concept of personal responsibility not only for ourselves, but for our friends as well.

farmer may not respect you as much as you think he does. He hasn't told me that, I'm just basing my judgement off of the words he speaks of you and your friends.

This example also in no way shape or form has anything to do with my opinion of 'pants or his circumstances a couple months ago. I like pants and was praying for him when I heard the news. Just as I would anyone or anybody else on this board whether I agree or disagree with them.

[Longhorns12]

That is where you are wrong and I am jumping in. We are critical of each other and I get grief from Dragon fans all the time. Lot's of it in PM so it is not public but I have criticized other dragon fans as well as posters from other teams.
I think you make huge mistakes when you categorize and entire fan base. Each team has good posters and bad ones. I do not base my thoughts of Marcus on Hero or Katy on your or any specific member of the fan base. I think there are idiot Trinity posters but by and large they are great and they could all suck but DaHawaiian,299 and Baylor Dad would make up for all of them and they are 3 of many. There are Dragon posters that get on peoples nerves, sometimes it is me but that is true of all fan bases. I think that there are so many of us that it may appear to worse than it is.


:)

[cougmantx]

I think the perma-ban needs to be banned.

[slcdragonfan]

farmerfan asked me to point this out for you. Your belief in taking personal responsibility. Being given a week ban...then asking for it to be shortened. Certainly you would have a problem with this guys inability to take personable responsibility correct? Or even his friends inability to recognize personal responsibility at this point and time.





dragonpants gets banned for a week. slcdf steps to the plate for his buddy and promotes a shortening of sentence for his dear friend despite him creating a thread that is against the board rules. A couple weeks later he's banned again for some mix up with hero that I heard was ugly.

farmerfan and swm are permabanned and their friends step up to plate for them and ask for a shortening of sentence. We are a bunch of whiners who don't understand the concept of personal responsibility not only for ourselves, but for our friends as well.

farmer may not respect you as much as you think he does. He hasn't told me that, I'm just basing my judgement off of the words he speaks of you and your friends.

This example also in no way shape or form has anything to do with my opinion of 'pants or his circumstances a couple months ago. I like pants and was praying for him when I heard the news. Just as I would anyone or anybody else on this board whether I agree or disagree with them.

There are always extenuating circumstances that can or should modify rules. FF knows I would do the same for him, and for anyone else on this board (including you) in similar circumstances.

I have no idea if FF 'respects' me or not, that is not what I said. He DOES know that I consider him a friend, and harbor no ill-will or animosity towards him.

I'm all for FF and SWM coming back. Your "whining" is about blaming other people. No problem with stepping up, asking to allow them back. The problem is where/how you place the blame for what happened. If you notice in that post, I never blamed any other fanbase, person, or group. I just said under the circumstances, would it be possible for him to have his ban shortened. Big difference.

If I am ever banned, I am only going to blame myself. :)

people with different opinions add value to this board. They don't have to agree. There should be some level of decorum to keep things from disintegrating into a facebook-like war, but nothing wrong with disagreement, or even some poking. Beyond that though, we all know the rules....

[dragonpants]

farmerfan asked me to point this out for you. Your belief in taking personal responsibility. Being given a week ban...then asking for it to be shortened. Certainly you would have a problem with this guys inability to take personable responsibility correct? Or even his friends inability to recognize personal responsibility at this point and time.





dragonpants gets banned for a week. slcdf steps to the plate for his buddy and promotes a shortening of sentence for his dear friend despite him creating a thread that is against the board rules. A couple weeks later he's banned again for some mix up with hero that I heard was ugly.

farmerfan and swm are permabanned and their friends step up to plate for them and ask for a shortening of sentence. We are a bunch of whiners who don't understand the concept of personal responsibility not only for ourselves, but for our friends as well.

farmer may not respect you as much as you think he does. He hasn't told me that, I'm just basing my judgement off of the words he speaks of you and your friends.

This example also in no way shape or form has anything to do with my opinion of 'pants or his circumstances a couple months ago. I like pants and was praying for him when I heard the news. Just as I would anyone or anybody else on this board whether I agree or disagree with them.

:ninja:

[drgnbkr]

I think the perma-ban needs to be banned.

Feels like perma-frost up here today! I thought it was Spring break. Down with perma-ban and perma-frost!

[Longhorns12]

Feels like perma-frost up here today! I thought it was Spring break. Down with perma-ban and perma-frost!


You forgot Perma-bond. Unless you want to perma-bond with somebody on here. :-)

[BlakeJ]

There are always extenuating circumstances that can or should modify rules. FF knows I would do the same for him, and for anyone else on this board (including you) in similar circumstances.

I have no idea if FF 'respects' me or not, that is not what I said. He DOES know that I consider him a friend, and harbor no ill-will or animosity towards him.

I'm all for FF and SWM coming back. Your "whining" is about blaming other people. No problem with stepping up, asking to allow them back. The problem is where/how you place the blame for what happened. If you notice in that post, I never blamed any other fanbase, person, or group. I just said under the circumstances, would it be possible for him to have his ban shortened. Big difference.

If I am ever banned, I am only going to blame myself. :)

people with different opinions add value to this board. They don't have to agree. There should be some level of decorum to keep things from disintegrating into a facebook-like war, but nothing wrong with disagreement, or even some poking. Beyond that though, we all know the rules....

It was forecasted that you would have an excuse or loophole to you and your friends circumstances.

[BlakeJ]

:ninja:

I see you. You can run...but you can't hide! :cool:

[slcdragonfan]

It was forecasted that you would have an excuse or loophole to you and your friends circumstances.

you call it an excuse or loophole, I call it an explanation. And as I said, I would have made the request even for you, so it wasn't about cronyism. And beyond that, I didn't blame anybody for the situation.

[BlakeJ]

you call it an excuse or loophole, I call it an explanation. And as I said, I would have made the request even for you, so it wasn't about cronyism. And beyond that, I didn't blame anybody for the situation.

Of course...of course. :rolleyes:

[mamaCat]

If anyone is sitting around in the hospital for a week waiting to have their chest opened and things bypassed ( or any situation )I would hope that it would take a simple heads up to the admins to have ANY banning shortened. Shouldn't have to "lobby" for it. It just so happens that " cronies" are the ones in the know when things go down so of course they would be the ones telling admins...duh!i
Imagine if poor Pants didn't have the board to keep him from tormenting EVERY nurse....people might have quit their jobs.:)

[cougmantx]

Feels like perma-frost up here today! I thought it was Spring break. Down with perma-ban and perma-frost!

Not as bad here as it is there. Uncle in Big Spring called yesterday evening and said it was 33 degrees in B.S. with about a 40 mph wind...that will chill you to the bone.

[Longhorns12]

if anyone is sitting around in the hospital for a week waiting to have their chest opened and things bypassed ( or any situation )i would hope that it would take a simple heads up to the admins to have any banning shortened. Shouldn't have to "lobby" for it. It just so happens that " cronies" are the ones in the know when things go down so of course they would be the ones telling admins...duh!i
imagine if poor pants didn't have the board to keep him from tormenting every nurse....people might have quit their jobs.:)

:d

[chhspantherfan]

If anyone is sitting around in the hospital for a week waiting to have their chest opened and things bypassed ( or any situation )I would hope that it would take a simple heads up to the admins to have ANY banning shortened. Shouldn't have to "lobby" for it. It just so happens that " cronies" are the ones in the know when things go down so of course they would be the ones telling admins...duh!i
Imagine if poor Pants didn't have the board to keep him from tormenting EVERY nurse....people might have quit their jobs.:)

you sound like stooperb

[TrinityTrojan80]

You're either lying or misinformed, farmer wasn't banned from rivals for anything 5a related. He was banned for calling tt80 and stuperB a bunch of names, all of which were accurate and well deserved.

Please support your statement about me.

[mamaCat]

you sound like stooperb

Bite your :Censor::Censor: ing tongue. :p

[JagFan]

I am confused... (I know a pretty common sate of mind for me) but when has Farmer not taken responsibility for his actions? When has one of his BFF said he was innocent? He has and we all have made the statements that it takes two to tango and he gave as good as he got. He has said many times on this board he deserved a banning. Can others say the same??? NO

We will also in way of explanation :) say that certain people felt the need to whine and cry to the admins. And because of their noise the admin felt they had to act. He took the shots at him and didn't do that. He took responsibility for his actions. I would love for one of the posters that did wrong to him own it. Yet it is always big mean Farmer we did nothing to him. That is were I get upset. I saw a lot of two wrongs and it is those people not taking responsibility not Farmer. JMO

[Longhorns12]

Bite your :Censor::Censor: ing tongue. :p


:eek:

[JagFan]

I would also like to add that I noticed two posters that he had some pretty legendary battles with are two that have said they want him back. Dawg Fan and Drgnbkr. To me that speaks volumes.

[stinger]

Feels like perma-frost up here today! I thought it was Spring break. Down with perma-ban and perma-frost!


Let's start a thread and use "perma-bond...this one is frightening!!!

[chhspantherfan]

i would also like to add that i noticed two posters that he had some pretty legendary battles with are two that have said they want him back. Dawg fan and drgnbkr. To me that speaks volumes.

+1

[dragonpants]

I see you. You can run...but you can't hide! :cool:

If we really want to get technical I asked slc to make the request to the KT's because I had to be in the hospital for a week before the surgery over the holidays and wanted something to do. Farmer was one of many that came to visit. It was great to see him again. Last time was during the playoffs
Personally I would like to see him and SWM back but it is not my decision.
I do not know why this is such a heated debate and everyone takes personal attacks at each other. I do not know who the people are that report other posters but no one I know unless they do not tell me about it. What I do not like is characterizing and entire fan base because of the actions of one or two posters. I think that is where the heated debates come in and more people get involved.
I have been publicly critical of our new district and caught a lot of grief from some Carroll folks because they think it is disrespectful. I can see their point but the fact remains that our new district blows but that does not mean every Carroll fan or poster thinks the same thing or that they would say it on here.
I am not the voice of Carroll nor is slc or bkr or any one of us unless the AD or Hal comes on here and even then it would be their opinion but would certainly be viewed as the ISD's opinion.
If someone is going to post an opinion and then respond with something negative about an entire fan base is going to cause some ripples.
That is it I am done for now anyway.

[BlakeJ]

I would also like to add that I noticed two posters that he had some pretty legendary battles with are two that have said they want him back. Dawg Fan and Drgnbkr. To me that speaks volumes.

SuperB says that is not a good representation...thats only 2 posters out of................

:rolleyes:

[JagFan]

SuperB says that is not a good representation...thats only 2 posters out of................

:rolleyes:

SuperB joined Oct. 2008 and has 3,111 posts

Drgnbkr joined April 2005 and has 19,659 posts

Dawg Fan joined April 2005 and has 12,782 posts

FarmerFan joined this board April 2005 and was an original member of this site and has 30,327 posts.


Does loyalty and longevity mean anything? Plus more have said yes than no.

[twcpfan1]

SuperB joined Oct. 2008 and has 3,111 posts

Drgnbkr joined April 2005 and has 19,659 posts

Dawg Fan joined April 2005 and has 12,782 posts

FarmerFan joined this board April 2005 and was an original member of this site and has 30,327 posts.


Does loyalty and longevity mean anything? Plus more have said yes than no.

Well for what it's worth, I 'hate' Katy, Trinity, slc and UT. I also start 2 racist threads a week. :D. I also went to the Katy tailgate and ate all their food just before I cheered for who they were playing. And I'm still Ban free.

That pretty much kills any claim that favoritism exists here. :)

[pied]

SuperB joined Oct. 2008 and has 3,111 posts

Drgnbkr joined April 2005 and has 19,659 posts

Dawg Fan joined April 2005 and has 12,782 posts

FarmerFan joined this board April 2005 and was an original member of this site and has 30,327 posts.


Does loyalty and longevity mean anything? Plus more have said yes than no.

SuperB does have 12,000+ posts on the competing Texas HS football board that he is a moderator of.

[chhspantherfan]

SuperB does have 12,000+ posts on the competing Texas HS football board that he is a moderator of.

if it were a competing board then he wouldn't be here;)

[chhspantherfan]

Well for what it's worth, I 'hate' Katy, Trinity, slc and UT. I also start 2 racist threads a week. :D. I also went to the Katy tailgate and ate all their food just before I cheered for who they were playing. And I'm still Ban free.

That pretty much kills any claim that favoritism exists here. :)

and the reason for that? I think you have pics of the KTs and a kangaroo...:eek:

[BlakeJ]

SuperB joined Oct. 2008 and has 3,111 posts

Drgnbkr joined April 2005 and has 19,659 posts

Dawg Fan joined April 2005 and has 12,782 posts

FarmerFan joined this board April 2005 and was an original member of this site and has 30,327 posts.


Does loyalty and longevity mean anything? Plus more have said yes than no.

I agree with you. The problem is that the admins are convinced that he is bad for the community and their message board. Their board their rules.

[da hawaiian]

and the reason for that? I think you have pics of the KTs and a kangaroo...:eek:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-vlyKHdBIr8I/TgfiN0AxknI/AAAAAAAAAMA/RDbOZnxbI1E/s1600/Kanagroo%255B1%255D.jpg

[pied]

if it were a competing board then he wouldn't be here;)

Using the term loosely. I posted over ther for some time, but technical issues drove me away, plus I didn't know about this place.

It's pretty much a ghost town over there now.

[ray1301]

Well for what it's worth, I 'hate' Katy, Trinity, slc and UT. I also start 2 racist threads a week. :D. I also went to the Katy tailgate and ate all their food just before I cheered for who they were playing. And I'm still Ban free.

That pretty much kills any claim that favoritism exists here. :)

And North Shore and Steele or any HS that has been successful and won a State Championship.

[twcpfan1]

And North Shore and Steele or any HS that has been successful and won a State Championship.

why u gotta start :Censor: all the time? :D

North Shore is about as successful as Lewisville given your criteria :)

WTF is Steele? The only thing I know about them is that fat tailback who now plays for tu

[da hawaiian]

Using the term loosely. I posted over ther for some time, but technical issues drove me away, plus I didn't know about this place.

It's pretty much a ghost town over there now.

From 2002 to 2003, that place saw some incredible traffic. I wonder what lead to its slow demise?

[drgnbkr]

SuperB does have 12,000+ posts on the competing Texas HS football board that he is a moderator of.

Those join dates are all April 2005 because the board re-set then. I've been here since 2002 and Farmer was an original member I believe.

[ray1301]

why u gotta start :Censor: all the time? :D

North Shore is about as successful as Lewisville given your criteria :)

WTF is Steele? The only thing I know about them is that fat tailback who now plays for tu


Pot calling the kettle black or is that racist

LMFAO! Now that there is funny... I'm not a big fan of tu myself

[twcpfan1]

Pot calling the kettle black or is that racist

LMFAO! Now that there is funny... I'm not a big fan of tu myself

I've often wondered whether 'Washington Redskins' or 'Cleveland Indians' is racist. What about Notre Dame 'Fighting Irish'. Is that referring to thuggery and terrorism in Belfast?

[ray1301]

I never had issue with FF. We got along fine and PM'd each other occassionally concerning Georgia Football.

[pied]

From 2002 to 2003, that place saw some incredible traffic. I wonder what lead to its slow demise?

I blame the technology to some degree and then this place. I didn't know about this place at all for some time. Then, trying to post there was too hard. I'd make some long post and then be logged out. Very frustrating.

That was about the time of the MNW-SLC game. Started coming over here and talking to frog and farmer and go back over there a couple times a year.

[JagFan]

I agree with you. The problem is that the admins are convinced that he is bad for the community and their message board. Their board their rules.

I agree with it is their board (the best one out there)and if I had people whining and crying all the time about big old mean Farmer I might have given him a break too.

I thought we were asking for him to come back? We cannot make them and all we can do is ask. Nicely. :)

I would like to know exactly what Farmer and then Rad did to be perma banned? Honest question because I don't know.

[JagFan]

Those join dates are all April 2005 because the board re-set then. I've been here since 2002 and Farmer was an original member I believe.

Yes he was an original member and I was not sure if you and Dawg came from the other site when it was reset.

[twcpfan1]

and the reason for that? I think you have pics of the KTs and a kangaroo...:eek:

In all seriousness the admins tolerate and even encourage outlandish behavior on their message board, but there is a line one shouldn't cross. I guess I always travel millimeters inside that line and always know where that line is.

I really don't talk to them about how they moderate their board but I'm guessing publicly questioning how they do it is probably not a good idea, particularly on their free of charge site. That would be like showing up for a free dinner and pissing on the lamb roast in the middle of the table.

But that's just me.

[BlakeJ]

I agree with it is their board (the best one out there)and if I had people whining and crying all the time about big old mean Farmer I might have given him a break too.

I thought we were asking for him to come back? We cannot make them and all we can do is ask. Nicely. :)

I would like to know exactly what Farmer and then Rad did to be perma banned? Honest question because I don't know.

Good luck. :)

[da hawaiian]

I for one would love to have Big D back on the board, and under his original handle. Especially once august rolls around.

The thing with Big D, if he's on his soapbox, let him have his say.

To me he's like a crazy little brother, behind all that bark, he's got a huge heart, and most importantly, he knows football.

[twcpfan1]

I for one would love to have Big D back on the board, and under his original handle. Especially once august rolls around.

The thing with Big D, if he's on his soapbox, let him have his say.

To me he's like a crazy little brother, behind all that bark, he's got a huge heart, and most importantly, he knows football.

yep. if the admins are listening, i second your thoughts.

[JagFan]

Good luck. :)

They know how I feel and I respect that it is their board. I did not start this thread or discussion nor any of the others. I only replied. :)

[chhspantherfan]

I for one would love to have Big D back on the board, and under his original handle. Especially once august rolls around.

The thing with Big D, if he's on his soapbox, let him have his say.

To me he's like a crazy little brother, behind all that bark, he's got a huge heart, and most importantly, he knows football.

uh, don't we want him around for spring ball?

[da hawaiian]

uh, don't we want him around for spring ball?

yeah, that came out wrong didn't it. I meant, especially for august, but sooner the better