slc disrespected lufkin band

[taco_bockley]

i know slc handed our a.. on a silver planter but the players from slc warming up on the field with 4 min. left in the half time break that is disrespectful

[taco_bockley]

ps. some one beat this team

[Ladypack34]

yeah it really was...you shouldnt be on the field while the other schools band is performing

[SLCDRGN]

Another senseless thread that truely deserves no response!! I could'nt let it go, however.

[slcsportsfan]

As I posted on another thread. It's the freakin band!! Nobody on either FOOTBALL team could give a rat's $@#$@ about what the band feels like. They have a second half to play and get ready for. If one band is better than another, it doesn't mean squat in determining the outcome of the game. In my opinion during the playoffs, the bands should only be allowed to do their stuff before the game.

[taco_bockley]

slc is amazing there wr can catch the football with one finger. if they touch it they catch it. there fast as hell. lufkin cb's got burnt all night the.

[PACK]

I've listen to SLCDAD and and others talk about our band without really knowing the the heck his was talking about. So I don't expect you to give any value to this either. But that was the most classless thing I've ever seen a coach do in the 30 something years I've been attending games at any level. I don't blame the players for this, this falls directly on the shoulders of the coach whoever it was. Okay so it was the band, well you get 4 quarters but halftime belongs to them. Get your jockstrap off your head and have some respect for others.
For you SLC players, you guys played a great game and you are the top dogs in this race. Our bunch just couldn't climb the hill today. No excuses from our camp. Injuries are part of the game and we had ours and I'm sure you had yours.
Never the less, good luck next week and congratulations on the run. IF the game is in Houston I'll be there.
It is been another great year for the PACK and I look forward to next year. Til we meet again!

[GoDragons]

i know slc handed our a.. on a silver planter but the players from slc warming up on the field with 4 min. left in the half time break that is disrespectful

Geeze....can't you find anything else to comment on after an amazing season for your team? It shows a lack of class on your part to even bring this up....quit whinning and move on. :rolleyes:

[POB]

As I posted on another thread. It's the freakin band!! Nobody on either FOOTBALL team could give a rat's $@#$@ about what the band feels like. They have a second half to play and get ready for. If one band is better than another, it doesn't mean squat in determining the outcome of the game. In my opinion during the playoffs, the bands should only be allowed to do their stuff before the game.

I have a question i would like you to think about

1. What about the band members parents...what about them?...they give a rats @$$ about the band...espcially their kids...think about that rich mother

[POB]

Geeze....can't you find anything else to comment on after an amazing season for your team? It shows a lack of class on your part to even bring this up....quit whinning and move on. :rolleyes:

and the whole team showed a lack of class to their self...the coaches...the fans...and the town!!!

[gldneagles]

this crap just really gets to me. "we won and you were classless" or "yeah you won but you were classless". who really cares. belive it or not, this was a football game!!! not a band competition!!! if you go to a football game, watch the game! the 22 kids on the field competing for something! watch that and you will not see any of the "classless" acts performed by all the other "participants" from BOTH sides involved in the game! oh, wait.........no one but the 22 kids on the field ARE involved in the battle!

these are the most assanine posts!

[POB]

thanks for the post about your opinion

[NTxTiger]

At the SLC-Denton Ryan game, SLC came out during DR's drill team performance and threw warm up passes. One of the guys stood 3 feet from the drill team throwing the ball back and forth about 40 yards.

[FootballJunkie]

What a way to mess up a good football game!!:( Congrats to two good teams.

[gldneagles]

At the SLC-Denton Ryan game, SLC came out during DR's drill team performance and threw warm up passes. One of the guys stood 3 feet from the drill team throwing the ball back and forth about 40 yards.
that is a strong arm to be throwing 40 yards for warm up!

[fropa]

yeah it really was...you shouldnt be on the field while the other schools band is performing


Maybe Lufkin should get a bunch of guys with swords to stand around the perimeter of the field like they do in Aggieland.

[slcsportsfan]

I have a question i would like you to think about

1. What about the band members parents...what about them?...they give a rats @$$ about the band...espcially their kids...think about that rich mother


The band parents could come early and watch the performance. If you read my post, I said neither football team would care, never mentioned a parent once. I guess you are telling me that if that happened to Carroll, our battle cry the following year would be "let's go out there and beat that team because they disrespected our band!"

just don't see it happening.

[TheOnceandFutureKnight]

this crap just really gets to me. "who really cares. belive it or not, this was a football game!!! not a band competition!!! if you go to a football game, watch the game! the 22 kids on the field competing for something! watch that and you will not see any of the "classless" acts performed by all the other "participants" from BOTH sides involved in the game! oh, wait.........no one but the 22 kids on the field ARE involved in the battle!

these are the most assanine posts!

Please send this post to your own drill team, band and cheerleaders so they'll know next season not to come support your team, since they have nothing to do with it.

[PHL4SLC]

I've listen to SLCDAD and and others talk about our band without really knowing the the heck his was talking about. So I don't expect you to give any value to this either. But that was the most classless thing I've ever seen a coach do in the 30 something years I've been attending games at any level. I don't blame the players for this, this falls directly on the shoulders of the coach whoever it was. Okay so it was the band, well you get 4 quarters but halftime belongs to them. Get your jockstrap off your head and have some respect for others.
For you SLC players, you guys played a great game and you are the top dogs in this race. Our bunch just couldn't climb the hill today. No excuses from our camp. Injuries are part of the game and we had ours and I'm sure you had yours.
Never the less, good luck next week and congratulations on the run. IF the game is in Houston I'll be there.
It is been another great year for the PACK and I look forward to next year. Til we meet again!

FYI: Dodge would never do anything to disrespect an opponenets team or fans. I wasn't there to see this first hand, but with a lot of HS football games / and college football games, the bands have up until 5 minutes left to finish their performances.

I truly don't believe this was something that was planned or pre-conceived, I believe it was an issue of timing. If you are going to be upset with anyone, be upset with the Carroll Marching Band for going over their time and making Lufkin cutting it close to 2nd half kick-off.

SLC always comes out around 5 mins prior to kickoff during the half to get prepared to take the field. I'm sure its not like they were in the MIDDLE of the field Taunting your band members.

Sorry, but this one really doesn't deserve this much talk - and that is coming from a "Hard Core" Marching geek during my high school days.

[dragonfootballfan]

I have already discussed this in a thread that was deleted. This was a football game, played on a football field. The band is secondary to a football team on a football field during a football game.

[gldneagles]

Please send this post to your own drill team, band and cheerleaders so they'll know next season not to come support your team, since they have nothing to do with it.
very good comeback! very imaginative and i like that. but my point remains, they in no way disrespected anybody by trying to get ready for what they do which is why everyone is there in the first place.

[dragonsdaddy]

FYI: Dodge would never do anything to disrespect an opponenets team or fans. I wasn't there to see this first hand, but with a lot of HS football games / and college football games, the bands have up until 5 minutes left to finish their performances.

I truly don't believe this was something that was planned or pre-conceived, I believe it was an issue of timing. If you are going to be upset with anyone, be upset with the Carroll Marching Band for going over their time and making Lufkin cutting it close to 2nd half kick-off.

SLC always comes out around 5 mins prior to kickoff during the half to get prepared to take the field. I'm sure its not like they were in the MIDDLE of the field Taunting your band members.

Sorry, but this one really doesn't deserve this much talk - and that is coming from a "Hard Core" Marching geek during my high school days.
don't know about bryce, but fields without any extra room to do warmups make these confrontations inevitable. i hope there was no other place to do the exercises. the players and the staff were most likely focused on one thing and certainly weren't dissing any one purposefully. i apologize for any hurt feelings.

[lufkin_82]

As I posted on another thread. It's the freakin band!! Nobody on either FOOTBALL team could give a rat's $@#$@ about what the band feels like. They have a second half to play and get ready for. If one band is better than another, it doesn't mean squat in determining the outcome of the game. In my opinion during the playoffs, the bands should only be allowed to do their stuff before the game.
u may not care about others from your school, but lufkin is family, disrespect one of us you disrespect all of us

[SLCDad]

I've listen to SLCDAD and and others talk about our band without really knowing the the heck his was talking about. So I don't expect you to give any value to this either. . . .Don't make me laugh. I know exactly what the Lufkin band did. Here is an e-mail that I received from a Lufkin band member:

"i am a member of the lufkin high school band and i am offended that you would go on the internet and talk about how we are loseing class. We might have been playing the nanana song and im not disagreeing that it isnt braging but i dont think that in any way we are "losing class" for it. would you rather us go up to the team and tell them they suck because they lost. Playing the nanana song is a way for us to get the crowd on their feet and give the panthers the proper aproval they should. i hope you are at the slc and lufkin cause we are going to be playing it louder just for you. and we might even make a song for whos your daddy. now i hope the next time you post something offensive it will be aginst your own team."

I also think the SLC players were wrong entering the field when the Lufkin band was playing. At least the SLC band didn't rub Lufkin's noses in the loss like was done to Cove the week before.

[bullrock]

We heard that song loud and clear today with about 2 minutes to go in the game. It didn't bother me in the least. That's just how it is. I have a comment about the SLC poster who says there is no room for warming up except on the field. That holds true for the bands before halftime too bud. I suggest next year the band begin warming up at your 10 yard line late in the second quarter. See how you like it. All I heard this past week from the SLC fans was how terrible it is to teach your kids to sing a song...a song for cryin' out loud. It sounds rather hypocritical to me that you would condone such behavior. I would be pi$$ed if my child were out there performing and you did that to me. By the way, congratulations on another great year.

[BandidoNB]

I too think that the SLC football team was being disrespectful if they ran onto the field while the Lufkin band was playing. The football team already gets its spotlight four four quarters, let the band have its time to shine. As much as the focus IS the football game (after all, it is a playoff game), the halftime is only 30 minutes overall and DOES belong to the bands. Believe it or not, the are numerous people who go to see their band students perform, NOT the football team. So they deserve the right to see a performance not disturbed by someone else.
I dont buy into the 'band going over their time allotment' argument. If it ever becomes that much of a problem, Im sure one of the coaches would alert the band directors of time constraints. Besides, being a former band student myself, I know for a fact that band directors are VERY WELL aware of the time constraints and carefully plan their shows to be less than the required minutes (since UIL performed contest shows are also timed according to rules). There simply is no excuse for it as I see it.

[fang78]

don't know about bryce, but fields without any extra room to do warmups make these confrontations inevitable. i hope there was no other place to do the exercises. the players and the staff were most likely focused on one thing and certainly weren't dissing any one purposefully. i apologize for any hurt feelings.

Bryce had plenty of room for warmups off of the field. SLC continued warming up after they were shoed off the field. For those that remember what Dez Bryant did to the flute player during the Hays game, that was one of the reasons it was NOT right for SLC to warm-up while the band was on the field. Dez was catching a pass in the end zone and folded a flute player up just outside of the endzone. Fortunately both were all right.

[dragonsdaddy]

We heard that song loud and clear today with about 2 minutes to go in the game. It didn't bother me in the least. That's just how it is. I have a comment about the SLC poster who says there is no room for warming up except on the field. That holds true for the bands before halftime too bud. I suggest next year the band begin warming up at your 10 yard line late in the second quarter. See how you like it. All I heard this past week from the SLC fans was how terrible it is to teach your kids to sing a song...a song for cryin' out loud. It sounds rather hypocritical to me that you would condone such behavior. I would be pi$$ed if my child were out there performing and you did that to me. By the way, congratulations on another great year.
well bullbud, as long as you're sensibilities are intact, like i said earlier, warming up before the game and after halftime are usually done on the extra area when available. what the heck are we talking about this anyway, neither of us were there. have another chilled beverage and relax. i'll be doing the same as soon as my shift is over. congrats to the rockets on a very great finish to a surprising year.

[drgnbkr]

I was there & I can't imagine what the heck your talking about...Carroll did nothing except what every team does every game..they came out for the 2nd half stayed off the feild & warmed up..end of story..shut up...

[bullrock]

You're right I wasn't there. Then why all the fuss? But if it did happen I see two sets of standards from the SLC posters who are condonig it.

[BAMF cowboy]

every game this season carroll has come out of the locker room at the end of halftime, gone to the nearest endzone, and has warmed up. It has not been a problem all year. How was Dodge and the coaching staff supposed to know what the LP band was going to do. Do you suggest the band directors show choaches the marching charts or what? It had NO effect on the outcome of the game whatsoever. To quote my all time favorite movie "now that's just nitpicking'

who can name it??

[LP_Drumline]

Honestly it was a big thing to me. Im a senior in the band. I mean yes warm up but can you wait 4 or 5 mins. But whats done is done. Congrats to the SCL. Good game overall.;)

[drgnbkr]

I think its got to be a misunderstanding...Carroll & our opponents have done that every game this year & I've been to them all. I know Coach Dodge would'nt let the guys get on the field..if he thought anyone was going to be offended, he would have had them stretch in the tunnel or something...

[dragons08]

yeah it really was...you shouldnt be on the field while the other schools band is performing
are you kidding me? i can care less if the football team is streching while the band is playing..

its a football game! not a band show, and football as a side..

since when does the band use the endzone? hmmmmmm they dont..

EVERY SINGLE GAME they strech in the endzone, every team we have play has done it so far as well, i dont get what the deal is here? its not like their making faces at your band or anything, just lay it to rest

[NewSherriffInTown]

Halftimes are for players to get a breather, for coaches to make adjustments.

That is why halftime was invented. It was never invented to watch a BAND.

BAND competitions belong to the BAND, not football games, and not playoff games.


The parents of the band members that are there watch them do the same thing all year long for 15 games plus competitions.

20,000 people are going to remember SLC won the game, 312 are going to care how well the band looked at halftime.

Get a life.

[dragons08]

I have a question i would like you to think about

1. What about the band members parents...what about them?...they give a rats @$$ about the band...espcially their kids...think about that rich mother
I have a question for you...

does the football team interfere in ANY way with the band? no they dont..

[dragons08]

FYI: Dodge would never do anything to disrespect an opponenets team or fans. I wasn't there to see this first hand, but with a lot of HS football games / and college football games, the bands have up until 5 minutes left to finish their performances.

I truly don't believe this was something that was planned or pre-conceived, I believe it was an issue of timing. If you are going to be upset with anyone, be upset with the Carroll Marching Band for going over their time and making Lufkin cutting it close to 2nd half kick-off.

SLC always comes out around 5 mins prior to kickoff during the half to get prepared to take the field. I'm sure its not like they were in the MIDDLE of the field Taunting your band members.

Sorry, but this one really doesn't deserve this much talk - and that is coming from a "Hard Core" Marching geek during my high school days.
woah woah blaming us now eh? maybe the clock operator screwed up?;)

next weeks show will be a tad longer.. were doing STATE 2005 and Carroll Dragons, plus the normal colorguard and emerlad belles stuff

[LUFPAN]

I think its got to be a misunderstanding...Carroll & our opponents have done that every game this year & I've been to them all. I know Coach Dodge would'nt let the guys get on the field..if he thought anyone was going to be offended, he would have had them stretch in the tunnel or something...

I with you drgnbkr. Nothing more than a misunderstanding. This subject has already gotten more attention than it deserved.

[dragons08]

I have already discussed this in a thread that was deleted. This was a football game, played on a football field. The band is secondary to a football team on a football field during a football game.
thats exactly true...even the directors go by that "were there to support hte football team" is what they say..

[Packattack94]

I have a question for you...

does the football team interfere in ANY way with the band? no they dont..

I must agree on SLC on this one....
How many times did lufkin Come into the endzone when their OWN band was playing? 3 home games this year.

[dragons08]

I too think that the SLC football team was being disrespectful if they ran onto the field while the Lufkin band was playing. The football team already gets its spotlight four four quarters, let the band have its time to shine. As much as the focus IS the football game (after all, it is a playoff game), the halftime is only 30 minutes overall and DOES belong to the bands. Believe it or not, the are numerous people who go to see their band students perform, NOT the football team. So they deserve the right to see a performance not disturbed by someone else.
I dont buy into the 'band going over their time allotment' argument. If it ever becomes that much of a problem, Im sure one of the coaches would alert the band directors of time constraints. Besides, being a former band student myself, I know for a fact that band directors are VERY WELL aware of the time constraints and carefully plan their shows to be less than the required minutes (since UIL performed contest shows are also timed according to rules). There simply is no excuse for it as I see it.
they walked, into the ENDZONE, the freaking endzone

jeez im in band and this doesnt bother me AT ALL..it happens EVERY SINGLE week, and yet i dont have my undies in a bundle like some of you "non" band people who have no idea..

[dragons08]

Bryce had plenty of room for warmups off of the field. SLC continued warming up after they were shoed off the field. For those that remember what Dez Bryant did to the flute player during the Hays game, that was one of the reasons it was NOT right for SLC to warm-up while the band was on the field. Dez was catching a pass in the end zone and folded a flute player up just outside of the endzone. Fortunately both were all right.
yes we can NAIL a band kid 30 yards away, while running, explain to me hows that possible?

[dragons08]

Honestly it was a big thing to me. Im a senior in the band. I mean yes warm up but can you wait 4 or 5 mins. But whats done is done. Congrats to the SCL. Good game overall.;)
tell me how this affected you?

i bet most of you didnt even know the football team was in the endzone till LP fans started booing them..

next game when the carroll band is perfoming, you can go stand in the endzone if you please to make it even if it really means thatm uch to you

[PACK]

Speculation is one thing, but I was there and this is EXACTLY what happened. Carrol band did not go over on their time but as visiting band they did march first. Lufkin took the field and began their drill. SLC came out of the locker room and started warming up from the endzone to the 5-10 yardline. There is a running clock for haltime. THERE WAS OVER 5 MINUTES still on the clock. The Lufkin director went over and ask the coach to move his team off the field until the band ended their performance. He was ignored. He ask again and the coach turned around and ask "What do you want to me to do about it" The director then ask again for him to move his team off the field untill after the performance. They did. End of story!
IF they had stayed in the endzone nothing would have been said. If they were over their time, nothing would have been said. The case was neither so who is at fault here. The SLC coach. It is just the simple subject of respect. They are kids and are just as much of part of the LP School as the team is.
No one is asking for an apology here. Just don't say there was nothing wrong with this and dismiss it as a losing team complaining. The complaint was already made and resolved. I'm sure this coach is more embarassed because he got backed down by a band director.
It's over folks and water under the bridge. SLC is playing next week and we are not. So drop it!

[dragons08]

I must agree on SLC on this one....
How many times did lufkin Come into the endzone when their OWN band was playing? 3 home games this year.
thank you..

to lufkin fans, can you provide me a VALID point of how it affects the band, if the football team is just doing little running drills, they just use the endzone, how it affects your band?

[dragons08]

Speculation is one thing, but I was there and this is EXACTLY what happened. Carrol band did not go over on their time but as visiting band they did march first. Lufkin took the field and began their drill. SLC came out of the locker room and started warming up from the endzone to the 5-10 yardline. There is a running clock for haltime. THERE WAS OVER 5 MINUTES still on the clock. The Lufkin director went over and ask the coach to move his team off the field until the band ended their performance. He was ignored. He ask again and the coach turned around and ask "What do you want to me to do about it" The director then ask again for him to move his team off the field untill after the performance. They did. End of story!
IF they had stayed in the endzone nothing would have been said. If they were over their time, nothing would have been said. The case was neither so who is at fault here. The SLC coach. It is just the simple subject of respect. They are kids and are just as much of part of the LP School as the team is.
No one is asking for an apology here. Just don't say there was nothing wrong with this and dismiss it as a losing team complaining. The complaint was already made and resolved. I'm sure this coach is more embarassed because he got backed down by a band director.
It's over folks and water under the bridge. SLC is playing next week and we are not. So drop it!
they never leave the endzone during their warmup, maybe they take a step on to the 1-2 yard line, thats it..

[LUFPAN]

Ok this discussion is going nowhere. Its over can everybody just drop it now? This 5A Texas Football not Texas Band. Just a misunderstanding nothing more. Here's a thought, trying talking about the game:rolleyes:

[Packattack94]

they never leave the endzone during their warmup, maybe they take a step on to the 1-2 yard line, thats it..

They were to the 5yl, But they did not affect the Bands performance!!!

[DragonBand06]

Here's the deal guys...

I too am a senior band member, at SLC. The football team ALWAYS, I repeat ALWAYS comes out to warm up with time left in halftime. They come out and warmup even if we're performing. During our competition show halftime (UIL show for you band people) performance one week, I remember seeing them warming up when we're in the middle our the second momvement. I didn't get offended. All I thought was, "Alright here comes the team, let's get back to football!" Now I realize that not everyone feels this way, but our team doesn't disrupt the band. It's not like they're doing the haka dance in the endzone or anything. Great game Lufkin, and if SLC doesn't make it next year I'm pulling for you guys.

D-Band06

[dragons08]

They were to the 5yl, But they did not affect the Bands performance!!!
exactly! i guess people just need things to complain about?

[dragons08]

Here's the deal guys...

I too am a senior band member, at SLC. The football team ALWAYS, I repeat ALWAYS comes out to warm up with time left in halftime. They come out and warmup even if we're performing. During our competition show halftime (UIL show for you band people) performance one week, I remember seeing them warming up when we're in the middle our the second momvement. I didn't get offended. All I thought was, "Alright here comes the team, let's get back to football!" Now I realize that not everyone feels this way, but our team doesn't disrupt the band. It's not like they're doing the haka dance in the endzone or anything. Great game Lufkin, and if SLC doesn't make it next year I'm pulling for you guys.

D-Band06
exactly..whats funny is i bet the people aruging this arent even associated with the band...everyone needs a reason to hate carroll i guess..:rolleyes:

[PACK]

exactly..whats funny is i bet the people aruging this arent even associated with the band.

Wanna bet? ;)

[dragons08]

Wanna bet? ;)
no, but what im saying is, some of people are arguing with us, that arent in band and telling me something hasnt happend, that i see every game

[LUFPAN]

OK, I give. You guys are wearing me out with this band crap. I'm going to bed.;)

[drgnbkr]

OK, I give. You guys are wearing me out with this band crap. I'm going to bed.;)

Me too..I enjoyed the game, the LP fans, the LP band & hope our guys can bring it again next week! Good night....:cool:

[dragons08]

OK, I give. You guys are wearing me out with this band crap. I'm going to bed.;)
who needs sleep? i got 10 hours the last 2 days:D

[HeadMan]

Sorry, but no one's there to see the band. That's just how it is.

[PACK]

Maybe one of these days I'll get to see SLC band do a drill. I think All Region got you last year as well. Some of our kids got to play last night and about 30 got there today in the 2nd quarter. Our All Region was in Tyler.
Even though all your good players were at All Region, you still sounded good. (That's meant to be funny) I sat 1st chair and could have cared less about All Region. Actually went once and made it. I think the only reason I went was because back then we got to miss a day of school.

[dragons08]

Sorry, but no one's there to see the band. That's just how it is.
you may want to rethink that...

how many band parents would go to all the games if their kid wasnt part of it (as in band?) i know MOST go for band AND football, but there are the ones that DO go for band

lets try and use somewhat of common sense in our next post okay?:)

[BigWhiteJake]

www.5atexasbands.com check it out, they got a great forum there too for yall to debate all your trebles....

[dragons08]

Maybe one of these days I'll get to see SLC band do a drill. I think All Region got you last year as well. Some of our kids got to play last night and about 30 got there today in the 2nd quarter. Our All Region was in Tyler.
Even though all your good players were at All Region, you still sounded good. (That's meant to be funny) I sat 1st chair and could have cared less about All Region. Actually went once and made it. I think the only reason I went was because back then we got to miss a day of school.
thanks! we were down 105 people roughly, and yet were still double the size of lufkin's band! imagine if you had the full Dragon Band there? oh man it would of been LOUDER..the SLC/Allen game, thats a clash of two of HUGE bands, and their like double OUR size! thats freaking insane!

[PACK]

thanks! we were down 105 people roughly, and yet were still double the size of lufkin's band! imagine if you had the full Dragon Band there? oh man it would of been LOUDER..the SLC/Allen game, thats a clash of two of HUGE bands, and their like double OUR size! thats freaking insane!

Actually we marched 150 today. Well maybe 148. I saw a couple of holds. Our band looked small in the stands because they were packed in like sardines. We had 370 kids packed into the same area your whole band had. That's why it looked small.

[dragons08]

Actually we marched 150 today. Well maybe 148. I saw a couple of holds. Our band looked small in the stands because they were packed in like sardines. We had 370 kids packed into the same area your whole band had. That's why it looked small.
yea i had PLENTY of room, i mean i could of layed down and still have more room, 3 other saxs and i had our half row, then 4 half rows in front of us were empty, it felt good to have room

[HeadMan]

you may want to rethink that...

how many band parents would go to all the games if their kid wasnt part of it (as in band?) i know MOST go for band AND football, but there are the ones that DO go for band

lets try and use somewhat of common sense in our next post okay?:)

Oh, okay, my bad. I was just under the impression that on a website about 5A Texas Football we wouldn't get a post per game about some band nerds complaining and acting like their ten minute halftime show shouldn't be somehow ruined by the actual football players getting ready after halftime on an area less than a third of the length of the endzone. Next time, I'll show consideration in my posts for the masses of 5aTexasBand fans out there and refrain from stating that they're in the minority and that no one cares about the band anyways.

[DragonBand06]

no one cares about the band anyways.

I care about the band!!! :mad:

Now THAT's taking it out of context! :)

D-Band06

[dragons08]

Oh, okay, my bad. I was just under the impression that on a website about 5A Texas Football we wouldn't get a post per game about some band nerds complaining and acting like their ten minute halftime show shouldn't be somehow ruined by the actual football players getting ready after halftime on an area less than a third of the length of the endzone. Next time, I'll show consideration in my posts for the masses of 5aTexasBand fans out there and refrain from stating that they're in the minority and that no one cares about the band anyways.
i agree with you, im in band, but i can care less if the football team is out there stretching, it doesnt in any way mess us up (maybe the chicks, but thats a diffrent story;) ) i guess people just like to run their mouth ya know?

[dragons08]

I care about the band!!! :mad:

Now THAT's taking it out of context! :)

D-Band06
"I am a loser"

thats REALLY taking it out of context, you said all those letters at some point in time, i just pieced them together

[DragonBand06]

"I am a loser"

thats REALLY taking it out of context, you said all those letters at some point in time, i just pieced them together

I must admit I just got burned.

D-Band06

P.S. When's this week's annual "Pre-State Game Band Football Game"?

[dragons08]

I must admit I just got burned.

D-Band06

P.S. When's this week's annual "Pre-State Game Band Football Game"?
hmm, will have to wait and see untill the "band schedule is released"

[PESHfan]

thank you..

to lufkin fans, can you provide me a VALID point of how it affects the band, if the football team is just doing little running drills, they just use the endzone, how it affects your band?


Just curious here.....did either of the bands enter the football field before the 2nd quarter was over? I wasn't at the game, but my guess is no.

I've never been to a game where the band entered the field before the half-time whistle. During half-time, the field belongs to the two bands and their drill teams. That means the entire field. The band is there to show respect and support their team, so I would recommend that the football players also show respect and support their bands as well as the opponents bands.

Trust me, it's a pretty boring game when you have no band there to get the crowd excited, play the fight song or the school song. Why is this such a tough concept for some people?

[DragonBand06]

Our point is, We're in the band, and we don't care...

Just a difference in tradition.

[dragons08]

Just curious here.....did either of the bands enter the football field before the 2nd quarter was over? I wasn't at the game, but my guess is no.

I've never been to a game where the band entered the field before the half-time whistle. During half-time, the field belongs to the two bands and their drill teams. That means the entire field. The band is there to show respect and support their team, so I would recommend that the football players also show respect and support their bands as well as the opponents bands.

Trust me, it's a pretty boring game when you have no band there to get the crowd excited, play the fight song or the school song. Why is this such a tough concept for some people?
at the plano/slc game the SLC football team was in the endzone when you guys were performing, and im pretty sure your football team was out there to, not a 100 percent though..

lets ask the band kids what we think..i guarentee majority will not give a crap if their there or not

[PESHfan]

Sorry, but no one's there to see the band. That's just how it is.

So.....you sing the school fight song by yourself?

Try telling all those band parents that nobody comes to see the band.

[dragons08]

Our point is, We're in the band, and we don't care...

Just a difference in tradition.
exactly, i want people to give me a reason how it affects the band, and dont do the whole respect thing, give me an answer that requires thought and proof

[PESHfan]

at the plano/slc game the SLC football team was in the endzone when you guys were performing, and im pretty sure your football team was out there to, not a 100 percent though..

lets ask the band kids what we think..i guarentee majority will not give a crap if their there or not

I don't think anyone cares what the football team does as long as they stay in the endzone.

Allen was the only team PESH ever played that caused a problem. They were out past the 30 yard line during the drill team performance. I think most folks would agree, that's a bit too far onto the field. I've never had a kid in the drill team, so it wasn't anything personal to me. I just found it to be disrespectful to the girls.

[dragons08]

I don't think anyone cares what the football team does as long as they stay in the endzone.

Allen was the only team PESH ever played that caused a problem. They were out past the 30 yard line during the drill team performance. I think most folks would agree, that's a bit too far onto the field. I've never had a kid in the drill team, so it wasn't anything personal to me. I just found it to be disrespectful to the girls.

"Just curious here.....did either of the bands enter the football field before the 2nd quarter was over? I wasn't at the game, but my guess is no.

I've never been to a game where the band entered the field before the half-time whistle. During half-time, the field belongs to the two bands and their drill teams. That means the entire field. The band is there to show respect and support their team, so I would recommend that the football players also show respect and support their bands as well as the opponents bands.

Trust me, it's a pretty boring game when you have no band there to get the crowd excited, play the fight song or the school song. Why is this such a tough concept for some people?"


is it me or do those posts complelty contradict themselves?

[Primetime536]

i know slc handed our a.. on a silver planter but the players from slc warming up on the field with 4 min. left in the half time break that is disrespectful
How pathetic. Who cares if this LP band is disrespected. They are a bunch of classless clowns who cant take their own poison. Why should anyone feel for the LP band. The same band who chanted WHOS YOUR DADDY to a 30 point underdawg after winning in OT. THe same band who chanted NA NA NA NA, after beating a very good Cove team......And we are suppose to pitty Lufkins band? HELLLLL NO

I really dont see how any one from Lufkin can say anything about this. It was ONLY the band that was disrespected. You think thats bad? I wish SLC sang "whos your daddy" to the beat of NANANANANANANA

[DragonBand06]

THe same band who chanted NA NA NA NA, after beating a very good Cove team......

Dude, It's called "We Ready", and it's a completely different song!
:)

[dragons08]

How pathetic. Who cares if this LP band is disrespected. They are a bunch of classless clowns who cant take their own poison. Why should anyone feel for the LP band. The same band who chanted WHOS YOUR DADDY to a 30 point underdawg after winning in OT. THe same band who chanted NA NA NA NA, after beating a very good Cove team......And we are suppose to pitty Lufkins band? HELLLLL NO

I really dont see how any one from Lufkin can say anything about this. It was ONLY the band that was disrespected. You think thats bad? I wish SLC sang "whos your daddy" to the beat of NANANANANANANA
in all honesty, i wanted to do something like that, give them a taste of their own medicine, then id get in big'o trouble and why step to that level?

[dragons08]

db06...did mr johnson right the drumline part for "dragons" where we yell out the letters? my mom asked me earlier and i had NO idea

[DragonBand06]

I dunno... It was here before I got here...

[dragons08]

I dunno... It was here before I got here...
look at your music, it should say who wrote it..

[DragonBand06]

There's no music, it's passed down to the fish by the upperclassmen...

[dragons08]

There's no music, it's passed down to the fish by the upperclassmen...
just like the new saxophone tradtion huh? the hooo hoo hoooo ho hoooooo...curious did anybody hear that? besides you band nerds..

another one, we started a monster thing...it was cool were like 1,2,3 open them at once, and like it was pretty loud, everybody like turns and looks at us, yea were pretty cool :cool:

[Primetime536]

Dude, It's called "We Ready", and it's a completely different song!
:)
Your post is pritty irrelevant, really dont see how the name of the song has to do with this. Oh and by the way, they DID chant NA NA NA NA, they didnt chant "WE READY,WE READYWE READYWE READYWE READYWE READYWE READY". If you wernt at the game, why try to correct me? Stick to playing the trumpet.

[dragons08]

Your post is pritty irrelevant, really dont see how the name of the song has to do with this. Oh and by the way, they DID chant NA NA NA NA, they didnt chant "WE READY,WE READYWE READYWE READYWE READYWE READYWE READY". If you wernt at the game, why try to correct me? Stick to playing the trumpet.
diss of all disses!

the lufkin band did play, "na na na na, hey hey hey, good bye"..

what ever their doing, they must be doing something right, to get all this publicity, i wonder if this what they want?

[DragonBand06]

Your post is pritty irrelevant, really dont see how the name of the song has to do with this. Oh and by the way, they DID chant NA NA NA NA, they didnt chant "WE READY,WE READYWE READYWE READYWE READYWE READYWE READY". If you wernt at the game, why try to correct me? Stick to playing the trumpet.

1. Ask any Lufkin fan. It's called "We Ready".
2. I was at the game, I'm in the frickin' BAND!!!
3. NEVER, I REPEAT NEVER ACCUSE ME OF PLAYING TRUMPET. I AM ON THE DRUMLINE!

[Primetime536]

1. Ask any Lufkin fan. It's called "We Ready".
2. I was at the game, I'm in the frickin' BAND!!!
3. NEVER, I REPEAT NEVER ACCUSE ME OF PLAYING TRUMPET. I AM ON THE DRUMLINE!
You were at the game? And you in the SLC band? How were you at the Cove V Lufkin game and the SLC game at the same time last week.

Why would I need to ask a Lufkin fan what the songs called?? Did they write it? Haaaa, im not really sure why you even said that, did i ONCE question you on the tittle of the song. I NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT THE TITTLE OF THE SONG. I simple stated what they chanted? is that to much for you? Hell what do i expect, i am talking to a trumpet player.:cool:

[DragonBand06]

You were at the game? And you in the SLC band? How were you at the Cove V Lufkin game and the SLC game at the same time last week.

Why would I need to ask a Lufkin fan what the songs called?? Did they write it? Haaaa, im not really sure why you even said that, did i ONCE question you on the tittle of the song. I NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT THE TITTLE OF THE SONG. I simple stated what they chanted? This that to much for you? Hell what do i expect, i am talking to a trumpet player.:cool:

Ignoring.

[DragonBand06]

P.S. I never said I was at the Cove vs. Lufkin game - I read a frickin' thread.

Ask Dragons08 - I AM in the Dragon Band and I do play Cymbals.

[Primetime536]

P.S. I never said I was at the Cove vs. Lufkin game - I read a frickin' thread.

Ask Dragons08 - I AM in the Dragon Band and I do play Cymbals.
never did? I was at the game, I'm in the frickin' BAND!!!
oh I was confused by that statement:rolleyes:

If your ignoring me, stop responding......to tell you the truth, i could care less what you play/

[vette25_88]

u may not care about others from your school, but lufkin is family, disrespect one of us you disrespect all of us

AMEN:D

[dragonfootballfan]

There would have been no problem what so ever if it was the Lufkin team coming out to stretch during their band performance.

[Arazorback]

It doesn't matter what the dragon nation thinks about coming out, because it doesn't affect them or their seniors in band. The senior in the LP band said that he felt offended by it and thats really not acceptable, because he probably has been going to every single game the past four years and won't be able to see another LP game for a long time and will NEVER get to march in the band again. That last game is special for everyone, not just the players.

[PACK '97]

How pathetic. Who cares if this LP band is disrespected. They are a bunch of classless clowns who cant take their own poison. Why should anyone feel for the LP band. The same band who chanted WHOS YOUR DADDY to a 30 point underdawg after winning in OT. THe same band who chanted NA NA NA NA, after beating a very good Cove team......And we are suppose to pitty Lufkins band? HELLLLL NO

I really dont see how any one from Lufkin can say anything about this. It was ONLY the band that was disrespected. You think thats bad? I wish SLC sang "whos your daddy" to the beat of NANANANANANANA

for the last time....its called "We Ready"....thats it...read, comprehend, and remember...thats all you have to do buddy!

[PantherRock1988]

Well, it wasn't a bad Panther attitude that caused this. Both teams were tied at the half and it was still anybody's game at that point.
But yes, it was a disrespect to the Lufkin Band no matter how you look at it.
If it wasn't a disrespect, then why did so many have an issue with it and why did the Lufkin Band Director go have words with the SLC coach about it?

But - I think this and I am sure many will agree....I don't think this was an intentional act on the SLC coaches part. He and the players probably didn't give it any thought. They have probably done this many times before and never had a response or issue from any band's director. I am sure it was a simple oversight and no harm was intended. The band has a part and place in high school football. It's probably a little much to keep sending the band to ALL the playoff games but that's not a call for me to make. But when the band (or whoever) has the field at the moment, no one else should be on it for any reason. The band doesn't get on the field when the game is being played so respect should go both ways.

Congrats to the SLC team. I am sure that since you beat Lufkin then Katy will be a cakewalk.

See ya next year!

:)

[Mhs06]

I hope everyone here knows that bands in Texas are the best in the nation? Its kind of dumb to show such disrespect to such high quality programs.

[DragonBand06]

Well, it wasn't a bad Panther attitude that caused this. Both teams were tied at the half and it was still anybody's game at that point.
But yes, it was a disrespect to the Lufkin Band no matter how you look at it.
If it wasn't a disrespect, then why did so many have an issue with it and why did the Lufkin Band Director go have words with the SLC coach about it?

But - I think this and I am sure many will agree....I don't think this was an intentional act on the SLC coaches part. He and the players probably didn't give it any thought. They have probably done this many times before and never had a response or issue from any band's director. I am sure it was a simple oversight and no harm was intended. The band has a part and place in high school football. It's probably a little much to keep sending the band to ALL the playoff games but that's not a call for me to make. But when the band (or whoever) has the field at the moment, no one else should be on it for any reason. The band doesn't get on the field when the game is being played so respect should go both ways.

Congrats to the SLC team. I am sure that since you beat Lufkin then Katy will be a cakewalk.

See ya next year!

:)

I don't think you can call it disrespect if it's unintentional.

If they had been doing it all season and never had anything said, how is it an oversight, and how is that disrespect? If it had been me out there when they were warming up (It has been many times and will be next week) I didn't/won't care! People are probably still gonna watch the band, not the FB players doing warmups! Even if they are, I only care that my parents get to see me play, so as long as they stay in the endzone/5-10 yd line, I dont care!

D-Band06

[DragonBand06]

I hope everyone here knows that bands in Texas are the best in the nation? Its kind of dumb to show such disrespect to such high quality programs.

Both band are very high quality: Ours got straight 1's at UIL and placed 5th at North Texas Band Championships. I'm sure Lufkin's is great too, I just don't follow them.

However, I just don't think it was disrespect since they've always done it and never had bad reactions at all.

[PACK]

How pathetic. Who cares if this LP band is disrespected. They are a bunch of classless clowns who cant take their own poison. Why should anyone feel for the LP band. The same band who chanted WHOS YOUR DADDY to a 30 point underdawg after winning in OT. THe same band who chanted NA NA NA NA, after beating a very good Cove team......And we are suppose to pitty Lufkins band? HELLLLL NO

I really dont see how any one from Lufkin can say anything about this. It was ONLY the band that was disrespected. You think thats bad? I wish SLC sang "whos your daddy" to the beat of NANANANANANANA

Just to set the record straight with your piece of crap attitude, you got beat, get over it and stop acting like some spoiled little baby. Go enjoy basketball season. We will!

[The_BreezeLP]

As I posted on another thread. It's the freakin band!! Nobody on either FOOTBALL team could give a rat's $@#$@ about what the band feels like. They have a second half to play and get ready for. If one band is better than another, it doesn't mean squat in determining the outcome of the game. In my opinion during the playoffs, the bands should only be allowed to do their stuff before the game.

That is because your band is lame and doesnt even march, I used to have some respect for Dodge, but anyone who would disrespect the other school by such a display, It just shows who they are... A Rich Elitist ***** leading a team full of the same. The band in my opinion plays a HUGE part in the atmosphere of the game everyone who is a true High School football fan knows this. Go Katy( even though I am not crazy about Katy, I will root for ANYBODy against SLC)

[my3sons]

There wasn't any disrespect to the band. Anyone who follows football knows that teams come out and warmup in the endzone all the time. That's all that occurred. Quit whining and trying to tarnish a good showing by SLC. I bet Outlaw has nothing but praise for SLC. The LP band was never interfered with. They were still the center of attention. I'm sure just because SLC warmed up during halftime and Lufkin didn't that is why SLC dominated the 3rd qtr aqnd won the game during the 3rd as well. Quit whining.

[PACK '97]

I did see what happened in the endzone during halftime...I honestly think it was a miscommunication between the players/coaches/band...i really dont think the players were intentionally getting in the way of the LP Band, just unfortunate that it happened...Once the band director asked the coaches to move....they did...end of story...It was a misfortune, thats all...no one meant to be disrespectful.

[toonman]

I did see what happened in the endzone during halftime...I honestly think it was a miscommunication between the players/coaches/band...i really dont think the players were intentionally getting in the way of the LP Band, just unfortunate that it happened...Once the band director asked the coaches to move....they did...end of story...It was a misfortune, thats all...no one meant to be disrespectful.

pack'97 - Thank you for a sensible analysis of the situation. I thought the Lufkin band was great. I really enjoyed watching the marching and the players warming up in the end zone did detract from my enjoyment. In fact; I was so engrossed by the Lufkin marching band, I did not notice the Dragons warming up. Please do not let an unfortunate event detract from the enjoyment of the entire proceedings and the contributions of the players and band.

[SLC Dragon Fan]

I did see what happened in the endzone during halftime...I honestly think it was a miscommunication between the players/coaches/band...i really dont think the players were intentionally getting in the way of the LP Band, just unfortunate that it happened...Once the band director asked the coaches to move....they did...end of story...It was a misfortune, thats all...no one meant to be disrespectful.


Thank you for a voice of reason from Lufkin. I was there at the game and saw everything. I was enjoying the Lufkin band performance when I heard some booing from the Lufkin side. I looked around to see why when I noticed the Dragons warming up IN THE ENDZONE. They were not anywhere near where the band was performing and I wouldn't have even noticed thm if the crowd hadn't booed. I was shocked the Lufkin crowd was upset. We do that virtually every game and no other fans have ever reacted like that. I promise you there was no disrespect intended by the team. By the way, we've seen the same thing from the other teams we've played many times and I've never considered it disrespectful. After all, we're there for a football game and halftime is intended to give the players a break. Part of that break is warming back up. When the clock expires, they're expected to be ready for lickoff. That means they have to warm up before the halftime clock expires. I Homer Bryce, the only turf was on the field. Where else were they supposed to warm up and when? When and where did those Lufkin fans who were unhappy about this expect our players to warm up? Oh, but I forgot, we were there all afternoon to watch the halftime show not a football game so the players are just out of luck?

[my3sons]

The Lufkin folks who were in the end zone (I guess they were LP band folks) were screaming at SLC to move while the LP band performed. 1 guy actually put his hands on #44, Justin Padron. The coaches immediately rushed over and took control of the situation. To the player's credit, he ignored the LP "band guy". The LP "band guy" was lucky the middle linebacker didn't take his head off. SLC routinely warms up during halftime, no disrespect. SLC doesn't do things that way.

[drgnbkr]

I'm sorry, but after such a great afternoon, I can't believe we're discussing the players warming up after the half...:confused: ...good job by the bands, great afternoon of football....can we move on?

[ALLSTAR]

did any one see the LP just yelling at all the players?? i saw a lot of SLC players rush over there to get in the guys face, and i know i saw renfro talking back at the guy. there were a few curse words flying back and forth, that LP needs to grow up and just leave the kids alone! haha

[pantherfootballfan]

Hey Dragons08,

I'm in the Lufkin band, and I was actually going to bring a sign to the game saying, "Dragons08 rocks my socks off!" I figured that you wouldn't see it from the other side of the stadium, though, so I decided not to make one. If I had made one, though, I would have brought it down to the field during half-time; then again, I'm sure the band director would not have been too fond of that idea. In fact, I would have marched with it if it was allowed...but I'm pretty sure that the LP fans would have hurt me. Or at least thrown popcorn or something! :p

DragonBand06 and Dragans08, good job from the band yesterday! I enjoyed when you guys danced; haha! That looked like fun! :)

Have a great week, everyone!

[pantherfootballfan]

How pathetic. Who cares if this LP band is disrespected. They are a bunch of classless clowns who cant take their own poison. Why should anyone feel for the LP band. The same band who chanted WHOS YOUR DADDY to a 30 point underdawg after winning in OT. THe same band who chanted NA NA NA NA, after beating a very good Cove team......And we are suppose to pitty Lufkins band? HELLLLL NO

I really dont see how any one from Lufkin can say anything about this. It was ONLY the band that was disrespected. You think thats bad? I wish SLC sang "whos your daddy" to the beat of NANANANANANANA

Primetime, I think that we've had this discussion before, and once again, this comment is not intended to offend you or criticize you. Once again, just setting the record straight.

I think I'll just post the same comment from a different thread.

Primetime, you and I get along pretty well, so please don't think I'm trying to bash you or your statements. The thing is, you're wrong about something in your statement, and I am merely attempting to correct the error in the event that another person has the same view as you do.

The Lufkin band, actually, does have class, and a lot of it. As I have said before, if you deem a whole organization "classless" because of a select group of people, then there is a chance that you could be mistaken. In this case, I believe that you are mistaken; not everyone in the band chose to participate in the controversial chant, and a lot of band members thought it disrespectful as well as you did.

Also, if you're going to chant to people in the LHS Band, please make sure and find the people who started or condone the chant, because the rest of us did not have anything to do with it.

Thank you for your time, and your team was awesome and had a lot of class. Again, my intention is not to offend you; I am just trying to clear some things up. Have a great week, everyone.

Also, to clear up any other confusion, here are other quotes taken from another post.

Like many have said, yes, the band was playing the song, "We Ready". There was a comment made that said "those weren't the words the band was singing", but in my personal experience, those were the words that were coming from the mouths of those around me.

Also, the whole band didn't play the song, "We Ready"; in fact,the whole band doesn't know that song. We have a seperate band named the "Jam Band", and they usually play in the third and fourth quarters - that's who played "We Ready".

It was not a classless song to play, and I'm sure that half of the band members are not aware of the original. I, for one, never even thought of "Nah, nah, nah" when we played the song; I thought of the song, "We Ready". Of course, I can't speak for the whole band, so I apologize on behalf of the band for any rude remarks, songs, or comments regarding the song, if there even were any. And if there were, I did not hear them.


Again, have a a great week!

[HOOKEM]

i know slc handed our a.. on a silver planter but the players from slc warming up on the field with 4 min. left in the half time break that is disrespectful

I thought this was a football forum.
Go to the band site.

[taco_bockley]

I was there & I can't imagine what the heck your talking about...Carroll did nothing except what every team does every game..they came out for the 2nd half stayed off the feild & warmed up..end of story..shut up...
they were on the field doing highsteps. you get know respect from me those white boy's are stuck up and need an a.. whiping

[GoOwls]

Did 20,000 people, or how many ever showed up, go there to see a semi-final playoff game, or a UIL band contest?

20,000 people do not go to a two band contest.

200 band parents got to a two band contest.

20,000 people go to see two great HS football teams play.

In the 60's, halftime was 12 minutes, now it is 24 minutes.

The bandies have twice the exposure you once had.

Shut up and remember the only reason 20,000 people have gathered and are forced to watch you.:D

[DragonBand06]

Did 20,000 people, or how many ever showed up, go there to see a semi-final playoff game, or a UIL band contest?

20,000 people do not go to a two band contest.

200 band parents got to a two band contest.

20,000 people go to see two great HS football teams play.

In the 60's, halftime was 12 minutes, now it is 24 minutes.

The bandies have twice the exposure you once had.

Shut up and remember the only reason 20,000 people have gathered and are forced to watch you.:D

If you're paying attention, you'll notice that most of the band people on this forum aren't arguing...

[Down n' Out]

How did this thread last six pages? We all know the band is important...so is the drill team and the chearleaders. The least important part is the game and the players.

[BAMF cowboy]

they were on the field doing highsteps. you get know respect from me those white boy's are stuck up and need an a.. whiping

what's the point of coming on here and complaining about it? it's not going to change the outcome of the game, nor did it. you're just making a fool of yourself by not showing yourself to be a graceful loser, not being able to find anything to ***** about because you know it was a great game by both teams. so instead you find the band to complain about. if you've read this thread, you would've seen about 20 times now that the Dragons have done that at the end of EVERY halftime this season. They go to the nearest endzone, and do warmup drills. I'm sure the players, and coaching staff had NO idea what the lufkin band was going to do in there halftime show. It had to be an honest misunderstanding, and although they didnt, i dont see how you could see any disrespect intended. I love high school football, and the bands, the drill teams, the cheerleaders and all the groups the support the teams, but at the end of the day it's a football, and that is why we are there. I'm sorry if you feel like your halftime show was ruined, but it was a misunderstanding, and im sorry but the bands performance did not affect the FOOTBALL game.

[dragonfootballfan]

Why would Carroll need to warm up at halftime? I think that Carroll did just to purely show Lufkin a lot of disrespect. It was not going to be done by late hits, personal fouls, dirty play, trash talk, excessive celebration, nor not shaking hands at the end of the game. They were going to do the most disrespectful thing ever done on a football field. It was really going to say, "In your face Lufkin," with this one. It was planned earlier in the week, during the snow day, that Carroll would disrespect Lufkin on purpose by warming up before Lufkin's band was finished. When the Freshman backup runningback coach suggested this a look of awe came over every single coach in the coaches office, and from their reaction you knew that there was only one thing that they were going to do on that day. When the day finally came, the Dragons were winning by only six points at halftime., but the coaches decided to go through with it anyway. After the excuses of that Lufkin used after their last two losses to Carroll this was really going to show them who was the boss, and who their daddy was.

I mean come on. Do you really think that there was some conspiracy to disrespect the band?

[KTBTyler]

Ok this discussion is going nowhere. Its over can everybody just drop it now? This 5A Texas Football not Texas Band. Just a misunderstanding nothing more. Here's a thought, trying talking about the game:rolleyes:

Talking about band on a football forum is like talking about Harry Potter on a star wars forums. Honestly I think these posts should go in the off topic Forum section.

And there's a difference for saying this topic is pointless and then going on a tangent and disrespecting band. Regardless of what your opinions are. Doesn't bother me, but it seems a little.. immature?

Of course we go to the FOOTBALL game to watch FOOTBALL

[dragons08]

It doesn't matter what the dragon nation thinks about coming out, because it doesn't affect them or their seniors in band. The senior in the LP band said that he felt offended by it and thats really not acceptable, because he probably has been going to every single game the past four years and won't be able to see another LP game for a long time and will NEVER get to march in the band again. That last game is special for everyone, not just the players.
he never answered my question of if he knew the football team was out htere before or after they went, and how it affected them..

[dragons08]

I don't think you can call it disrespect if it's unintentional.

If they had been doing it all season and never had anything said, how is it an oversight, and how is that disrespect? If it had been me out there when they were warming up (It has been many times and will be next week) I didn't/won't care! People are probably still gonna watch the band, not the FB players doing warmups! Even if they are, I only care that my parents get to see me play, so as long as they stay in the endzone/5-10 yd line, I dont care!

D-Band06
exactly, it has to be a differnt in styles then (east texas vs north texas) b/c every game the football team is out there streching

[dragons08]

That is because your band is lame and doesnt even march, I used to have some respect for Dodge, but anyone who would disrespect the other school by such a display, It just shows who they are... A Rich Elitist ***** leading a team full of the same. The band in my opinion plays a HUGE part in the atmosphere of the game everyone who is a true High School football fan knows this. Go Katy( even though I am not crazy about Katy, I will root for ANYBODy against SLC)
its called a playoff show..

why do a long show when we dont have to 'practice' for competions and what not, its a PLAYOFF game you want to get people pumped and ready for the 2nd half, not relaxed and what ever by watching a full show..

[PackAttack2005]

I think this whole thing is blown out of proportion, especially on the Lufkin side. I was down there and the Carroll guys came out to warm up and were going out to the 10 yard line and back warming up. They had no idea they were in the way of the band, until the Lufkin band director went over and ask them to move back. I was right there when it happen and contrary to My3Sons comments, no one put their hands on any player because I witness the whole thing. It was a total miscommunnication or misunderstanding all the way around. Nothing was said that was out of line on either side.

The game is over, let it go and talk about something else, good luck to Southlake next week, you guys have a great team.

[dragons08]

Hey Dragons08,

I'm in the Lufkin band, and I was actually going to bring a sign to the game saying, "Dragons08 rocks my socks off!" I figured that you wouldn't see it from the other side of the stadium, though, so I decided not to make one. If I had made one, though, I would have brought it down to the field during half-time; then again, I'm sure the band director would not have been too fond of that idea. In fact, I would have marched with it if it was allowed...but I'm pretty sure that the LP fans would have hurt me. Or at least thrown popcorn or something! :p

DragonBand06 and Dragans08, good job from the band yesterday! I enjoyed when you guys danced; haha! That looked like fun! :)

Have a great week, everyone!
haha thanks, we rarely get to "dance" and stuff on the field, in stands we do it the whole game, but its nice to be able to "be loose" on the field..

i have one question to you..did our football team offened you? and when did you notice they were there..

[dragons08]

If you're paying attention, you'll notice that most of the band people on this forum aren't arguing...
i know, all by people not associated with the band..ANY band..only one band kid complained and he couldnt even answer a simple question

[Favpack]

The Lufkin folks who were in the end zone (I guess they were LP band folks) were screaming at SLC to move while the LP band performed. 1 guy actually put his hands on #44, Justin Padron. The coaches immediately rushed over and took control of the situation. To the player's credit, he ignored the LP "band guy". The LP "band guy" was lucky the middle linebacker didn't take his head off. SLC routinely warms up during halftime, no disrespect. SLC doesn't do things that way.
This will be my only post on this issue just to clear the air. The Lufkin band ROUTINELY marches into and beyond the goal line - in intricate marching style. The band director did his job- which was to ask the coach to give the band another minute or two.

The Lufkin Sideliner went over to help -- I watched the entire scene unfold. I initially thought this person was the Lufkin ISD Superintendant and it very easily could have been, but it wasn't in this case. He went over said a few words and turned around. No. 44 obviously mouthed off to the man, who then wheeled back around, moved to within about 8 feet of 44 and responded back. The SLC coaches sprinted over and pulled 44 back - and the scene was over. Pretty ugly reallyl - but those things happen. This poster is DEAD wrong and is totally misleading. 44 mouthed off and our Sideliner wasn't going to take it - case closed. I'm done.

[vette25_88]

To the peole saying that no one cares about the bands.......If you go to a Lukin home game, you will notice that about 80%, if not more, of the people on the Lufkin side stay and watch just to see the Lufkin band march just because they are that good and they also show appreciation when the other band marches.....why do you think there was just a big reaction from the fans.....the wanted to watch the band march and the stands were still filled completly. They also backed up the band director cause they support him too. :p

[DragonBand06]

Listen, I don't want to start anything else here, but when we were down in the endzone (on the track) with about 2:00 left in 1st half, waiting to go on, there were a bunch of Lufkin fans at the fence yelling at us that we suck, go back where you came from, etc. Now, I'm not saying that any of you guys would do that, but there were people there who weren't exactly welcoming to us either.

D-Band06

[dragons08]

Listen, I don't want to start anything else here, but when we were down in the endzone (on the track) with about 2:00 left in 1st half, waiting to go on, there were a bunch of Lufkin fans at the fence yelling at us that we suck, go back where you came from, etc. Now, I'm not saying that any of you guys would do that, but there were people there who weren't exactly welcoming to us either.

D-Band06
did you hear the lufkin band talking trash? they were on thier buses getting ready to leave, and we were in line waiting to get pizza, and their just yellign crap at us like "you suck" "you cheated" blah blah blah blah

[DragonBand06]

I didn't hear any from their band, just from some fans.

[dragons08]

I didn't hear any from their band, just from some fans.
you must of been in front of the line, b/c i was in the middle-back of the line, and their buses were lined up behind me and yeah, i didnt say anything to them though, i kept my cool!

as we were walking out, i didnt hear one negative thing from a lufkin fan, just a few good lucks here and there

[backthepack]

Listen, I don't want to start anything else here, but when we were down in the endzone (on the track) with about 2:00 left in 1st half, waiting to go on, there were a bunch of Lufkin fans at the fence yelling at us that we suck, go back where you came from, etc. Now, I'm not saying that any of you guys would do that, but there were people there who weren't exactly welcoming to us either.

D-Band06

Hey we have our knucklehead fans just like you have yours so that is something both teams are going to have to deal with if its the first game of the season or the last and that's just fact. Now I wasn't at the game but I mean couldn't the coaches just have the decency just to wait 3 minutes? I mean maybe them or the players don't care about our band but our fans and our football team treat halftime like another quarter...they clap, yell, and show respect for those kid's hard work...They way I see it the band doesn't come onto the playing field at the end of the second quarter so why go on to their field at the end of halftime? Just my two cents.

[PackAttack2005]

The game is over............Good luck to Southlake next week..... we hope to get another shot at you guys real soon. This whole endzone warm up thing was a misunderstanding all the way around, there was no real intent to disrespect anyone....please let this mess go away. Just remember every team has their butt head fans, they will always exist.

[DragonBand06]

Hey we have our knucklehead fans just like you have yours so that is something both teams are going to have to deal with if its the first game of the season or the last and that's just fact. Now I wasn't at the game but I mean couldn't the coaches just have the decency just to wait 3 minutes? I mean maybe them or the players don't care about our band but our fans and our football team treat halftime like another quarter...they clap, yell, and show respect for those kid's hard work...They way I see it the band doesn't come onto the playing field at the end of the second quarter so why go on to their field at the end of halftime? Just my two cents.

That's just how we do it in North Texas. Most FB teams come out and warm up on the field at about 5:00 left in halftime. It wasn't disrespect, just a routine thing. This has already been said many times in this thread. Let's just put it to rest.

[dragons08]

The game is over............Good luck to Southlake next week..... we hope to get another shot at you guys real soon. This whole endzone warm up thing was a misunderstanding all the way around, there was no real intent to disrespect anyone....please let this mess go away. Just remember every team has their butt head fans, they will always exist.
amen to that! this thread has definatly exceeded its life

[backthepack]

Sorry about the above post of mine...it sounded rude. I see the whole mess more of a misunderstanding instead of a disrespect thing. Just two different ways of doing things...no hard feelings in my book

[DragonBand06]

Sorry about the above post of mine...it sounded rude. I see the whole mess more of a misunderstanding instead of a disrespect thing. Just two different ways of doing things...no hard feelings in my book

None here either. Glad we settled that. :)

[BAMF cowboy]

these things happen. they are called misunderstandings. just like when LD Bell took the field when Trinity were playing their school song. One side takes it as disrespect, when none was intended.

[DragonBand06]

these things happen. they are called misunderstandings. just like when LD Bell took the field when Trinity were playing their school song. One side takes it as disrespect, when none was intended.

Yeah, just like when Colleyville booed our Alma Mater and Band/Drill Team, and then we showed 'em how to play football!

No disrespect there...

[dragons08]

Yeah, just like when Colleyville booed our Alma Mater and Band/Drill Team, and then we showed 'em how to play football!

No disrespect there...
if you ask me, that made no sense..

[BAMF cowboy]

Yeah, just like when Colleyville booed our Alma Mater and Band/Drill Team, and then we showed 'em how to play football!

No disrespect there...

no....thats nothing like this

[Primetime536]

Just to set the record straight with your piece of crap attitude, you got beat, get over it and stop acting like some spoiled little baby. Go enjoy basketball season. We will!
What the hell are you talking about? My attitude? What are you trying do? Act like my mom? Ill worry about my attitude i dont need you do give me advise.

Oh and i never once cried about HH losing to Lufkin, i gave lufkin the credit they deserved. I really dont see how im not over it. I havnt talked about HH since the week they lost to lufkin. Get your **** straight dawg, its not my fault yall lost to SLC, dont attack me like i did something..


Good season tho

[DragonBand06]

I wouldn't say Lufkin's "crying" over their loss...
I've heard nothing but class from them.

[Winston]

That is because your band is lame and doesnt even march, I used to have some respect for Dodge, but anyone who would disrespect the other school by such a display, It just shows who they are... A Rich Elitist ***** leading a team full of the same. The band in my opinion plays a HUGE part in the atmosphere of the game everyone who is a true High School football fan knows this. Go Katy( even though I am not crazy about Katy, I will root for ANYBODy against SLC)

Well, I sure hope most folks from SLC have more class than to have to be abusive to others to feel a sense of worth - but hats off to Breeze for voicing his honest opinion instead of trying to win a popularity contest on the board. If the SLC team really did rain on the Lufkin band's parade, I hope it was a minority of their constituency that willingly condoned it - just like I hope the annual posts on this board touting the greatness of that community in terms of per capita income, etc. etc. are only coming from a minority of that population. People (non-dysfunctional ones) shouldn't have to diminish others to feel a sense of worth. That's why I think a lot of posts on this particular issue can't be truly representative of the SLC community, which I'm sure is classier than that.

[BAMF cowboy]

Well, I sure hope most folks from SLC have more class than to have to be abusive to others to feel a sense of worth - but hats off to Breeze for voicing his honest opinion instead of trying to win a popularity contest on the board. If the SLC team really did rain on the Lufkin band's parade, I hope it was a minority of their constituency that willingly condoned it - just like I hope the annual posts on this board touting the greatness of that community in terms of per capita income, etc. etc. are only coming from a minority of that population. People (non-dysfunctional ones) shouldn't have to diminish others to feel a sense of worth. That's why I think a lot of posts on this particular issue can't be truly representative of the SLC community, which I'm sure is classier than that.

how can you give your hats off to that guy? Because of his bitterness? and his ridiculous accusations? I understand that SLC intruded on the Lufkin halftime show, and that is something to be apologetic for. But to accuse Dodge of being a classless coach, is just plain blasphemy to be honest. Get off you soapbox, the band did not win or lose the game for you.

[Winston]

I guess it's not blasphemy if his team disrespects your band. I wasn't there, neither did I have a stake in the outcome of the game. Just have to admire someone who speaks their mind, is all. They just could be speaking for a silent (but not politically correct) majority.

[BAMF cowboy]

I guess it's not blasphemy if his team disrespects your band. I wasn't there, neither did I have a stake in the outcome of the game. Just have to admire someone who speaks their mind, is all. They just could be speaking for a silent (but not politically correct) majority.

that's true, i will give him that. there a lot of people around here who do some serious *** kissing and acting all buddy buddy. i do like he spoke his mind, but i did not like the manner in which he did it.

[Winston]

Understood.

[Primetime536]

Yea, i guese i once again was wrong. My statements speaking against the lufkins bands are to wide and unfair.

Im sure Lufkins band really is very respectful and has alot of people who are curtious and respect the oposing team.

My earlier statements attack the entire lufkin band, and i should of attacked to select few who were disrespectful. My bad, i should of just spoke against the people who sang "whos your daddy" not the ENTIRE band...

[jc84chill]

Hopefully after 8 pages of which band was disrespected the most, you guys got your opinions out there.