Breaking: Continental Airliner crashes into home in Buffalo

[F18mustang]

http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/02/13/plane.crash.new.york/index.html

No survivors reported...

[F18mustang]

Continental Airlines op. by Colgan Air
Colgan Flt 3407
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/CJC3407
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3482/3248910554_ffb2e8ebc9_m.jpg

[yankee]

thoughts and prayers out oth the fajmilies.

[svhorns]

Whats going on with the airline industry? Can we have these many problems and consider flying safe? I mean you'd think these big airplanes could sustain a bird through the turbine. I think we might need to spend a little bit of money to make sure these people who choose to fly are safe.

[JagFan]

They were saying on the news this morning that one of the victims is the widow of a 9/11 victim. Death toll at 50. 49 on board and 1 on the ground

Prayers go out to all families.

[slorch]

Whats going on with the airline industry? Can we have these many problems and consider flying safe? I mean you'd think these big airplanes could sustain a bird through the turbine. I think we might need to spend a little bit of money to make sure these people who choose to fly are safe.

do you realize how big a goose is?

Looks like this one was weather related, not mechanical failure.
Everyone hates cancelled flights. This is why they happen...

[drgnbkr]

Whats going on with the airline industry? Can we have these many problems and consider flying safe? I mean you'd think these big airplanes could sustain a bird through the turbine. I think we might need to spend a little bit of money to make sure these people who choose to fly are safe.

They reported yesterday that the bird strikes were Canada Geese...have you seen those things? They are like flying dogs!

[ktCarl]

They reported yesterday that the bird strikes were Canada Geese...have you seen those things? They are like flying dogs!

Forget about polar bears and buffalo...let's wipe out Canadian geese!

[drgnbkr]

Forget about polar bears and buffalo...let's wipe out Canadian geese!

Damn Canucks! I think it's a takeover plot...

[Firebird]

Whats going on with the airline industry? Can we have these many problems and consider flying safe? I mean you'd think these big airplanes could sustain a bird through the turbine. I think we might need to spend a little bit of money to make sure these people who choose to fly are safe.

There's no way to completely eliminate the risk inherent in using modern transportation to get around. The safest way to travel will always be to take the patamobile, but flying is still statistically a close second despite the two recent incidents. When they "cluster" like this it makes it seem like things are getting more dangerous when in fact they aren't.

[RedRage00]

There's no way to completely eliminate the risk inherent in using modern transportation to get around. The safest way to travel will always be to take the patamobile, but flying is still statistically a close second despite the two recent incidents. When they "cluster" like this it makes it seem like things are getting more dangerous when in fact they aren't.

patamobile. lol

I haven't heard that since I was a kid. :laugh

[Firebird]

patamobile. lol

I haven't heard that since I was a kid. :laugh

One of the ways you know you're from South Texas....;)

[F18mustang]

ATC Transcript:

17:20
Tower: Colgan 3407, Buffalo?

17:30
Tower: Colgan 3407, Approach?

17:35
Tower: Delta 1998, look off your right side about 5 miles, for a Dash-8, you see anything there?

17:40
Delta 1998: Negative, Delta 1998, we’re just off the bottoms, nothing on TCAS

17:50
Tower: Colgan 3407, Buffalo?


(A few calls from Tower (?) asking Colgan 3407 if he’s on the frequency. )

19:35
Tower: Delta 1998, you have VFR conditions there?

19:40
Delta 1998: negative.

20:10
Tower: Colgan 3407, Buffalo Tower, how do you hear?

20:27
Tower: (talking to someone else)?: Need some ground communication, need to talk to someone at least 5 miles NNE, ok, possibly clearance. That area right in there, Akron area, either State police or sheriff’s dept, we need to find out if anything’s on the ground. This aircraft was 5 miles out, all of a sudden we have no response from that aircraft.

20:40
(continued):All I can tell you is that we had an aircraft over the marker, and we’re not talking to him now

21:03
Tower?: Delta 1998, you had any icing where you’re at?

21:05
Delta 1998: We picked up some on the way down, not building up any more now. It was 6500 down to 3500 maybe?

21:10
Tower: ok, thank you sir. Delta 1998, it’s gonna be a delay, ah, gonna bring you back around, expect a hold over Klump.

21:45
Tower: Jetblue 5, I’ll have to get back to you, apparently we have an emergency, I’ll have to get back to you.

22:48
Tower: Cactus 1452, we’ll be bringing you back around here shortly to the airport here

23:00
Cactus 1452: Ok, we’re picking up rime ice here, for a while.

23:59
tower: for all aircraft this frequency, we did have a Dash-8 over the marker that didn’t make the airport, he appears to be about 5 miles away from the airport. For Delta 1998, I’m gonna bring you in on the approach, if you could give me a pirep when you get to 2300, and ah, if you have any problem with the localizer, let me know, however we’re showing all in the green here.

24:55
Delta 1998: ILS 23, and we’re still in IMC here at 2300

24:59
Tower: you getting any icing there?

25:04
Delta 1998: it doesn’t appear to be building, we’ve got ah, ½, ¼ inch that’s was with us from the descent, remained with us the whole time.

25:12
tower: ok.

25:20
(Cactus 1452 also reports rime ice for 20 miles south of airport)

(other normal communications)

29:10
Cactus 1452: uh tower, Cactus 1452, is coming up on Klump, and uh, we just, we saw it down, you know what’s going on?

29:20
Tower: Cactus 1452, Buffalo tower, winds 260 at 14, you’re cleared to land, yes sir, we are aware