Dave Campbell Rankings

[supercentex]

DCTF 5A Top 25
1 Southlake Carroll
2 Spring Westfield
3 Tyler Lee
4 Smithson Valley
5 Lufkin
6 Longview
7 Katy
8 Austin Westlake
9 Euless Trinity
10 SA Churchill
11 Copperas Cove
12 Converse Judson
13 The Woodlands
14 North Shore
15 Midland Lee
16 Duncanville
17 Abilene
18 Denton Ryan
19 Schertz Clemens
20 Dallas Carter
21 SA Marshall
22 South Garland
23 Cypress Falls
24 Fort Bend Hightower
25 SA O'Connor

DCTF 4A Top 25
1 La Marque
2 Texas High
3 Boerne
4 Highland Park
5 Marshall
6 Stephenville
7 Lake Travis
8 Kilgore
9 Ennis
10 Brenham
11 Rosenberg Terry
12 Pflugerville Connally
13 Bay City
14 Wylie
15 Calallen
16 Brownwood
17 Texas City
18 Arlington Seguin
19 Plainview
20 New Braunfels Canyon
21 Wichita Falls
22 Houston Kashmere
23 Alamo Heights
24 Sout Oak Cliff
25 EP Riverside

DCTF 3A Top 25
1.....Cuero
2.....Marlin
3.....Synder
4.....Wilmer Hutchins
5.....Atlanta
6.....WO-S
7.....Cameron Yoe
8.....Bridgeport
9.....Wimberley
10...Tatum
11...West Columbia
12...Gainsville
13...Devine
14...Sweetwater
15...Caldwell
16...Jasper
17...Sinton
18...Iowa Park
19...Barbers Hill
20...Waco Connally
21 Canyon
22 Kaufman
23 La Feria
24 Bellville
25 Rusk

DCTF 2A Top 25
1 Newton
2 Celina
3 Brookshire Royal
4 Omaha Pewitt
5 Troup
6 Hamilton
7 Salado
8 Colorado City
9 Wall
10 Post
11 Hughes Springs
12 Troy
13 Lexington
14 Crane
15 Canadian
16 Van Vleck
17 San Augustine
18 East Bernard
19 Bangs
20 Crawford
21 Scurry-Rosser
22 Argyle
23 Tulia
24 Mart
25 Sanford Fritch

DCTF 1A Top 25
1 Chilton
2 Big Sandy
3 Windthorst
4 Normangee
5 Goldwaithe
6 New Deal
7 Groveton
8 Sunray
9 Harleton
10 Hale Center
11 Quanah
12 Stratford
13 Haskell
14 Seagraves
15 Muenster
16 Wolfe City
17 Flatonia
18 Bremond
19 Valley View
20 Joaquin
21 Clarendon
22 Roscoe
23 Irion County
24 Hareper
25 McCamey

[RGVBadBoy]

#21 SA Marshall weren't they like 3-7 last season, on top of that dont they lose their 2,000yrd rusher Victor Harrel?????

[KT2000]

A surprising amount of love for Westlake, Churchill, Marshall and Hightower.

[supercentex]

Waco High has
#19 Schertz-Clemens Week 0 @ Schertz
#3 Tyler Lee in Waco
#15 Calallen in Corpus Christi

and #11 Copperas Cove district in Waco

No rankings for A&M Consolidated

[Texas Hammer]

Ol' Dave had Churchill in the Top 25 last year, too. He always goes crazy over teams that have top prospects at QB. He also picks some team from the Football Classic to be in the Top 25 every year.

Judson might play 7 top 25 teams if they get to the title game:

Copperas Cove (Non-District)
Smithson Valley (District)
SA Churchill (District)
Schertz Clemens (probable playoff game)
SA O'Connor (Probably playoff game)
Spring Westfield/North Shore
T Lee/E Trinity/The Woodlands

I'd like to know how a #4-#10 matchup is the 5th best in the state, but 4-12 is only the 15th best game.

[Red Raiders]

Ol' Dave had Churchill in the Top 25 last year, too. He always goes crazy over teams that have top prospects at QB. He also picks some team from the Football Classic to be in the Top 25 every year.

Judson might play 7 top 25 teams if they get to the title game:

Copperas Cove (Non-District)
Smithson Valley (District)
SA Churchill (District)
Schertz Clemens (probable playoff game)
SA O'Connor (Probably playoff game)
Spring Westfield/North Shore
T Lee/E Trinity/The Woodlands

I'd like to know how a #4-#10 matchup is the 5th best in the state, but 4-12 is only the 15th best game.

Yes thats true, look at Tyler Lee at #3 because of our awesome new comer QB who is a D-1.

[LeanderLions3033]

I'll hate on Austin Westlake every now and then, and ill show them love every now and then, but come on #8? Lets be real. This team is not #8 worthy without Ron Schroeder IMO.

[Red Raiders]

I'll hate on Austin Westlake every now and then, and ill show them love every now and then, but come on #8? Lets be real. This team is not #8 worthy without Ron Schroeder IMO.

I really agree with you, Austin Westlake not good this year. I mean who is Dave Campbell? is he a real guy?

[KT2000]

Dave is definitely a real guy who provides a great service for Texas HS Football with his magazine in my opinion. I don't think he's actually done the HS rankings for a while now. I think those are put together by his chief editors who come from all over the state. The rankings, 5A anyway, are more geared to sell to all of the big markets in Texas rather than be a reflection of the best 25 going into the season. I think that's been pretty evident for the last 3-5 years.

If Austin Westlake played South Garland or Garland in zero week, I think I know who 95% of the people in our pick em contest would go with. Not trying to hate on Westlake. Just stating what I believe would happen.

[Texasfrog]

Yes thats true, look at Tyler Lee at #3 because of our awesome new comer QB who is a D-1.

It would be hard for me to knock on Dave Campbell. His had a huge part over the last 40 years in making Texas High school football what it is today.

Preseason Polls work.. they get everyone debating. I think that's what they are really for. The kids will settle it on the field.

I do agree with you. Tyler Lee is getting some respect for the new QB who is a D-1A caliber player. But, I think they have probably 3 other Seniors that will be D-1A along with about 3 or so Juniors. Tyler Lee is going to field another team "Like always" that will be stout and probably make a deep run into the Texas playoffs.

[RGVBadBoy]

Waco High has
#19 Schertz-Clemens Week 0 @ Schertz
#3 Tyler Lee in Waco
#15 Calallen in Corpus Christi

and #11 Copperas Cove district in Waco

No rankings for A&M Consolidated
Calallen should NOT be ranked #15 in 4A by any means, they only have 1 starter comming back on Offense, their QB.....they lost 6 Div 1 athletes to graduation and only return 4 starters on Defense.....i dont think they'll be a poor team at all, but they will not be as good as they were this past season....and thats because they had an off year last season....this season will be worse....

[wide-e-wide]

Hey supercentex...Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?
I thought Monday was the earliest you could get the
magazine?
Did I miss something?
I'm breakin' my balls tryin' to have the inside scoop and
you steal my thunder...
Are you Dave's long lost love-child or what?
How did you beat me to the punch dog?

[supercentex]

Hey supercentex...Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?
I thought Monday was the earliest you could get the
magazine?
Did I miss something?
I'm breakin' my balls tryin' to have the inside scoop and
you steal my thunder...
Are you Dave's long lost love-child or what?
How did you beat me to the punch dog?


Even though i'm not in Waco now.....I still got connections. :D

Dave Campbell is from Waco (if you didn't know that)

They started selling the magazine on Thursday in Waco......(you're late)

[wide-e-wide]

I've been in Lufkin all weekend...
where at?
I'm in Woodway...so can I get it at the Wally World in Hewitt?

[supercentex]

I've been in Lufkin all weekend...
where at?
I'm in Woodway...so can I get it at the Wally World in Hewitt?


If there are any left you can get them at the Texas Sports Hall of Fame which is pretty much on the Baylor Campus right before you get to the Ferrell Center.

Take the Univ Parks Drive Exit...and it's right on the left as you turn right on Univ Parks.

[RedRage00]

No Waco in the Top 25???? The world is gonna end!!! :p

[supercentex]

No Waco in the Top 25???? The world is gonna end!!! :p


That is the way we like it. Under the radar.

[wide-e-wide]

I know man...
My wife called there for me last week and talked to
Steve Fallon from ESPN sports personally...
he said Monday was the day to pick them up...
I live right off of 84...about 1 mile from Valley Mills ...
I know where to go...
but they said Monday...WTF?

[RedRage00]

SA Marshall should not be in there.

Victoria will probably beat them this year.

RR

[supercentex]

I know man...
My wife called there for me last week and talked to
Steve Fallon from ESPN sports personally...
he said Monday was the day to pick them up...
I live right off of 84...about 1 mile from Valley Mills ...
I know where to go...
but they said Monday...WTF?

Yeah, I have friends that live in your area on Fairway..........

Usually they sell them a little early compared to the day that they tell everyone.

You just have to go up there and check a couple of days before.

[farmerfan]

Have to question the 3A rankings, Gainesville is going to be a top 5 team this year, and no Abilene Wylie is flat out crazy, any Hugh Sandifer coach team is going to be a top 15 team, I dont care what they lost, that program is to solid from top to bottom not to be in the top 15. When I went to HPU during the fall of 2000, I made a few treks out to watch Wylie and fell in love with them. From that point on, I have made it a point to catch at least one game each year and everytime I walk away saying that he is one of the best coaches in the state. The fact that they are not a top 25 team is flat out ludicrious.

[wide-e-wide]

Dude I am on Stony Point...
My wife's Mom and Dad live 50 yards from us
on Fairway...That is crazy...you probably know
right where I am at right now...hahahha.

[Shoot2thrill]

I think those are put together by his chief editors who come from all over the state. The rankings, 5A anyway, are more geared to sell to all of the big markets in Texas rather than be a reflection of the best 25 going into the season. I think that's been pretty evident for the last 3-5 years.

That is the reason that I think that magazine is beginning to lose a lot of credibility. When you sell out like that to the numbers game, you lose a lot of respect IMHO. This is not sour grapes either as they have my team right about where you have them. That is the worst 5A early season poll I have ever seen. But hey, I get to waste my $10 on something else this year. :cool:

[Red Raiders]

No Waco in the Top 25???? The world is gonna end!!! :p

I am sure Waco wants to be in Invisible team.

[supercentex]

I am sure Waco wants to be in Invisible team.

Don't get me wrong.......Waco isn't suppose to be that good this year. But, if you go by the past...that is when we do our best and sneak up on people.

But, we'll see........

[SmilinTiger]

Dave is definitely a real guy who provides a great service for Texas HS Football with his magazine in my opinion. I don't think he's actually done the HS rankings for a while now. I think those are put together by his chief editors who come from all over the state. The rankings, 5A anyway, are more geared to sell to all of the big markets in Texas rather than be a reflection of the best 25 going into the season. I think that's been pretty evident for the last 3-5 years.

If Austin Westlake played South Garland or Garland in zero week, I think I know who 95% of the people in our pick em contest would go with. Not trying to hate on Westlake. Just stating what I believe would happen.

Dave's rankings is done by a guy named Carl Padilla. He publishes the Padilla Poll which is a subscription only website. I believe he is originally from the RGV, so that's why you see some occassional outrageous picks from there.
He and Dave's mag has always swooned over Westlake.

[Go Chaps]

A surprising amount of love for Westlake, Churchill, Marshall and Hightower.

Last year's disappointing first round loss coupled with the fact that Westlake does not have Spring Football has kept us "below the radar". Dave Campbell's ranking just ended that. It will be August before we really know what we look like but I know we will surprise a few folks. Westlake has more talent than we have had in several years. If the players come together this team can go far, very far.

[Texasfrog]

Last year's disappointing first round loss coupled with the fact that Westlake does not have Spring Football has kept us "below the radar". Dave Campbell's ranking just ended that. It will be August before we really know what we look like but I know we will surprise a few folks. Westlake has more talent than we have had in several years. If the players come together this team can go far, very far.

Believing is half the battle...

[LeanderLions3033]

Just wondering, how come it seems like Westlake ALWAYS starts out weak but ends some what strong?

[jrdaniel]

It probably is two-fold. Most great teams do this, start slow and finish strong. Katy and Judson off the top of my head. They are certainly no pushovers in the first couple of games, but if you want to take them down, that is the time to do it. Great teams continue to get better and gel at the end of the season and into playoff time. The other reason for the slow start is the lack of spring football. In my opinion this hurts a team because there is much more learning than practicing in the days before school starts. Teams with a spring have a brief refresher beginning two-a-days and mainly practice to get back into the groove with teammates.

[CCDawgs05]

Don't get me wrong.......Waco isn't suppose to be that good this year. But, if you go by the past...that is when we do our best and sneak up on people.

But, we'll see........


Hey, CC was supposed to finish 6th in the district last year and looked what happened....we won it, so its gonna be a dogfight just like every year...

[KT2000]

If Padilla does the rankings that explains quite a bit. I believe he uses a power ranking formula to get his rankings, so his polls are the result of number crunching.

I'm not sure if he uses a power ranking system for the pre-season. I'm not sure how that would work since no games have been played (I.E. little to no data to feed into the equation). I'd have a hard time believing that teams like Churchill and Westlake would be ranked that highly in a power ranking system. However, the top seven reflects what I'd expect to see from power rankings. All teams that did well last year who have a lot of starters back.

[badger95]

Just wondering, how come it seems like Westlake ALWAYS starts out weak but ends some what strong?

A weak district is a big part of that. Winning builds confidence, no matter who the foe is. Also, their pre-district schedule is always very tough, because they can't get easier opponents to agree to games, which is how it should be anyway.

[chap fan]

Well KT 2000, maybe Dave Campbell overrated us, but by picking no fewer than three teams from the suburban North Austin district in your top twenty-five, you cast aspersions on your own prognostication skills. And since most of these sites have many more participants from the Houston area, East Texas and DFW than central Texas, I would agree your pickers would weight towards the Garland schools even without having ever seen the Chaps play (as many have not). Central Texas and Region 4 are stepchildren on these sites.

We went to state semifinals in Schroeder's first year gone, despite his 11th hour indelicate departure. We did lose in bidistrict last year to a very good (and highly rated) Pflugerville team. Yes, we schedule the toughest teams we can in non district and we welcome a more competitive district. It's worked for us for many years. The odds are we will not go through the regular season undefeated, but better prepared for the playoffs.

I'm not sure how Red Raiders from Tyler thinks he knows what kind of a team we're going to have. On paper, we've never been that good. You have to factor in coaching, discipline, hard work, and desire. We defeat many teams who are more talented than we are athletically every year. How we'll fare this year I don't know, but we'll all know in a few months.

[GoOwls]

I would like to personally thank Dave Campbell for giving my Owls a little bulletin board propaganda. I hope they read before each game how they get no respect. Thanks again Dave.

[TexasRed6x]

Dave, Dave, Dave put down that crack pipe you have S.A. Churchill and S.A. Marshall, along with Austin Westlake in the top 20, please. I wan to get this right you have SV, then Churchill, then Judson coming in 3rd in the district, what about Madison, and Roosevelt. Then you have Marshall who finished with that stellar record of 3-7 winning district over a very good O'Conner squad and what about S.A. Taft. I think that you have a relative working in the S.A. area because you have that city all wrong. Then you move to the Centex area, and Westlake over PV, Ceder Park give me a break. After this you should change the name of the book to Dave Campbell's best guess book, or I wish I knew football book.



The FACTS are the FACTS and that is a FACT.

[PackAttack2005]

Wide, I got my DCTF in the mail on Thursday of last week, the Lufkin Panther Sports site had a link to order online and have mailed directly to you early. DCTF gave the booster organization a special code for their fans to order online. The information was on the site for a month. I guess you missed it.

[pack4life]

I pre ordered mine and still did not get it......

[TheYoungCoach]

Dave is definitely a real guy who provides a great service for Texas HS Football with his magazine in my opinion. I don't think he's actually done the HS rankings for a while now. I think those are put together by his chief editors who come from all over the state. The rankings, 5A anyway, are more geared to sell to all of the big markets in Texas rather than be a reflection of the best 25 going into the season. I think that's been pretty evident for the last 3-5 years.

If Austin Westlake played South Garland or Garland in zero week, I think I know who 95% of the people in our pick em contest would go with. Not trying to hate on Westlake. Just stating what I believe would happen.


On that note, why isn't Dave showing any love to the Owls?? They were top 10 in this website's rankings. I smell a conspiracy. :D

[GTown02]

I'd rather be off of someones top list, then being ranked; playing the part of the "underdog" has always suited the Owls better then the favorites.

[garlandredraider]

Garland is never rated by Mr. Dave. The only time Garland was rated was after we won State in 1999. And for the 2000 season, you know who they had picked to finish #1? You guessed it.. WESTLAKE. The same team Garland dimolished in the playoffs in 1999. (58-14 i think). They then picked Garland to come in 2nd, and we lost first round to Allen, so thats fine with me. We dont need ya Davy!

But seriously... 3 loses last year.. one to South Garland, DeSoto, and the other to Tyler Lee in the first round. Give me a break. You try playing Longview/Lufkin/Lee first round every year.... gets tiring. We got rid of Lufkin... but shoot that the only one we could beat. It is not like we did not a hard enough schedule... beating Ennis (4a champ), Carter, and PESH. So psh.

[RedRage00]

I found Dave Campbells mag in a walmart in SA last week...is it early?

[Papa LoneStar]

I found Dave Campbells mag in a walmart in SA last week...is it early?

i found mine friday nite-saturday morning at bout 2am in walmart...................dallas (wheatland/I20)

[c-lisle]

It would be hard for me to knock on Dave Campbell. His had a huge part over the last 40 years in making Texas High school football what it is today.

Preseason Polls work.. they get everyone debating. I think that's what they are really for. The kids will settle it on the field.

I do agree with you. Tyler Lee is getting some respect for the new QB who is a D-1A caliber player. But, I think they have probably 3 other Seniors that will be D-1A along with about 3 or so Juniors. Tyler Lee is going to field another team "Like always" that will be stout and probably make a deep run into the Texas playoffs.

While Preston is a good HS football QB, I'm not sure he is a D1A QB. Can anyone post a roster, or at least a list of returning starters for Lee. I'm curious as to who they have coming back. I know they are losing a lot of talent from last years team. Ciron Black, Hill, and Ross, are all gone. What players are going to fill their shoes.

[RidgePride]

DCTF 5A Top 25
1 Southlake Carroll
2 Spring Westfield
3 Tyler Lee
4 Smithson Valley
5 Lufkin
6 Longview
7 Katy
8 Austin Westlake
9 Euless Trinity
10 SA Churchill
11 Copperas Cove
12 Converse Judson
13 The Woodlands
14 North Shore
15 Midland Lee
16 Duncanville
17 Abilene
18 Denton Ryan
19 Schertz Clemens
20 Dallas Carter
21 SA Marshall
22 South Garland
23 Cypress Falls
24 Fort Bend Hightower
25 SA O'Connor



Since when has Tyler Lee ever been better than Longview, Lufkin, Smithson Valley, Katy. Bogus list.

[LeanderLions3033]

Maybe its aleady been said, but has anybody spotted any in Austin, because im willing to drive any length if its in the Leander/Cedar Park/Round Rock/Pflugerville/Georgetown/Austin area lol. Its a system that i have ever summer, its Dave Campbells, NCAA football for playstation, and Madden. My summer is not complete without these three things.

[GarlandOwl06]

Since when has Tyler Lee ever been better than Longview, Lufkin, Smithson Valley, Katy. Bogus list.

Since Tyler Lee won the state championship...I think they deserve their ranking.

[badger95]

Garland is never rated by Mr. Dave. The only time Garland was rated was after we won State in 1999. And for the 2000 season, you know who they had picked to finish #1? You guessed it.. WESTLAKE. The same team Garland dimolished in the playoffs in 1999. (58-14 i think). They then picked Garland to come in 2nd, and we lost first round to Allen, so thats fine with me. We dont need ya Davy!

But seriously... 3 loses last year.. one to South Garland, DeSoto, and the other to Tyler Lee in the first round. Give me a break. You try playing Longview/Lufkin/Lee first round every year.... gets tiring. We got rid of Lufkin... but shoot that the only one we could beat. It is not like we did not a hard enough schedule... beating Ennis (4a champ), Carter, and PESH. So psh.

So you're saying that Garland was ranked preseason in 2000 and then proceeded to lose in the first round of the playoffs? And that Westlake was ranked number one that same year, and they played Midland Lee for the state championship at DKR Memorial Stadium? Yeah, Dave must be a terrible prognosticator.

BRILLIANT!

[badger95]

Maybe its aleady been said, but has anybody spotted any in Austin, because im willing to drive any length if its in the Leander/Cedar Park/Round Rock/Pflugerville/Georgetown/Austin area lol. Its a system that i have ever summer, its Dave Campbells, NCAA football for playstation, and Madden. My summer is not complete without these three things.

Found 'em at new Super Wal-Mart in South Austin.

[dragonsdaddy]

badger, have you ever heard the old saying that even blind hogs find an acorn every now and then?

[relraiderfan]

Since Tyler Lee won the state championship...I think they deserve their ranking.

lol, thanks Garlandowl, i was going to post that but you beat me to it. Those are all great teams, but for right now Tyler Lee and Southlake Carroll are the defending state champs.

[c-lisle]

Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't the rankings supposed to reflect how good a team will be in the upcoming season. The isn't considered I think SLC will be dominant again and are deserving of a #1 ranking, but I'm not sure about Lee. I think they should definately be ranked, but they lost a lot of firepower from last season. Who do they have coming back besides their QB and a couple of defensive players?

[badger95]

badger, have you ever heard the old saying that even blind hogs find an acorn every now and then?

If I'm not mistaken, Dave Campbell's Magazine had correctly picked at least one state champion correctly every year, up until two years ago. That's a pretty good indicator or reliability if you ask me.

You guys forget that he is trying to give equal coverage to all classifications and every school in the state. That is a pretty daunting task. This website only concentrates on 5A football.

[dragonsdaddy]

ok, let me go at it with 6 classifications and 10-11 champions and i'm thinking i might luck into 1-2 annually too. the guys here have been able to pick a champion with only 2 spots for 2 years anyway. let's see, if i got to pick celina back in the day, i had a pretty decent shot at getting 1 anyway. overall, it is so obvious that he is less concerned about actually getting the top 25 teams in the state and more about attracting mag buyers and ticket buyers to the classic.

[relraiderfan]

Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't the rankings supposed to reflect how good a team will be in the upcoming season. The isn't considered I think SLC will be dominant again and are deserving of a #1 ranking, but I'm not sure about Lee. I think they should definately be ranked, but they lost a lot of firepower from last season. Who do they have coming back besides their QB and a couple of defensive players?

Rclisle41, I agree and disagree with you and will attempt to answer your question concerning what we have returning. A preseason ranking should indicate what you have coming back, but I believe it should also reflect how teams respond year to year. There have been years where Lee has lost a lot more talent, but still rebounded for very successful years. Last year they finally broke through, with less talent, which indicates that maybe next year they will be able to respond with the same kind of year. No one really knows.

As for the players, on offense in addition to Preston, Lee's returning RB is Jason Williams who has been on varsity since his sophomore year. They have several receivers returning with experience. The biggest holes to fill I believe will be the O-line and our FB Peyton Price. Price was a gamebreaker and an unquestionable leader on the field last year. Our line has to replace quite a bit, but let me remind you that Lee always seems to field a dominant O-line year in and year out.

As for defense, our secondary returns practically intact lead by 2007 D1 recruit Tekerrian Cuba. We also have a dominating force on DL in Jacoby MacKensie coming back. The biggest holes on defense will be LB. However, once again, like O-line, that is a position that always seems to work itself out. I know we have some kids coming up by the names of Uzzell and Faber. We will just have to see how this TEAM gels. They could equal last years team or come up short, but honestly no one really knows.

[R E Lee]

Since when has Tyler Lee ever been better than Longview, Lufkin, Smithson Valley, Katy. Bogus list.

In the last 5 meetings, Lee is 3-2 against Lufkin and 2-3 against Longview (the last two losses coming when Lee went for 2pt conversion on the last play of the game and an overtime loss last year.) so, to answer your question, they have been better about half the time.

Check out the historical stats on Smoaky.com for all East Texas Records

[c-lisle]

Thanks Relraiderfan. This years game b/t Lview and Lee should be another great one. The last two have been very entertaining.

[RidgePride]

In the last 5 meetings, Lee is 3-2 against Lufkin and 2-3


They lost to both last year. Longviews RB Tandem still intact.

I don't think Spring Westfield should be ranked as high either

[LeanderLions3033]

Really random, but on page 188 and 189 i think its cool how they have us and Westlake in color, right after they have SLC praying. I've never seen this picture in anything else, and it shows Adrian Weaver (number 96) Brett Schroeder (number 46) and Drew Dunn (number 7) very well. Even though they messed up our stats very bad. Billy Allen 6'1" 1981 lbs, and Travis Njuko is not a linebacker and is not 5'101 inches lol. Oh well at least he picked us to finish 1st, thats a first. But every other team has their players to watch, then the other prospects, and we dont have the "other prospects".

[badger95]

That means that Coach Gideon did not submit any "other prospects" as they get all the info for that portion of the piece from a questionairre from the coach.

I still think that either P'ville or McNiel will win that district, though. I do believe Leander will be a playoff team again, however.

In 16-5A, I bet that Bastrop will be a playoff team over Bowie and maybe even Hays. Hays is a year away from being really good.

That would mean Weslake will go D-1, if Bowie is out.

[raidercheerdad]

Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't the rankings supposed to reflect how good a team will be in the upcoming season. The isn't considered I think SLC will be dominant again and are deserving of a #1 ranking, but I'm not sure about Lee. I think they should definately be ranked, but they lost a lot of firepower from last season. Who do they have coming back besides their QB and a couple of defensive players?I think Jason Williams will be as good or better than T. Ross at running back and defensively, Matt Uzzell at LB finished the year STRONG! They lost a lot but the only weakness I see in what is replacing them is possibly the O-line. The key to Coach Owen's teams in the past is the word TEAM. He manages to get the best out of everybody and pulls them together. Everybody keeps bringing up last years losses, but forgets the nature of those losses! Injuries and the desire to not have anymore accounted for 2 of those and the other one was to Lufkin at their house. If you remember correctly, we split w/Lufkin the year before and beat Longview both times we had to play them.
:mad:

[dragonsdaddy]

you aren't asking much for him to be better than tyrone, now are you?

[raidercheerdad]

you aren't asking much for him to be better than tyrone, now are you?I guess that's like comparing someone to Chase, huh?

[SWTAlumni]

Take it from a former Tyler Lee quarterback, Jason Williams has a lot of ground to make up before he can reach Tyrone's status. I'd say,,,,,,,,atleast 2,500 yards this season with atleast 25 touchdowns, then I'd recognize him in the same class.

[Texasfrog]

Take it from a former Tyler Lee quarterback, Jason Williams has a lot of ground to make up before he can reach Tyrone's status. I'd say,,,,,,,,atleast 2,500 yards this season with atleast 25 touchdowns, then I'd recognize him in the same class.


Dang SWT... dont set that bar to high for the kid... I'm looking forward to seeing more from Jason Williams. The little I've seen of him he has looked pretty good with some nice power. I could see him hit the 2,000 mark if they play at least 15 games.

PS. Do you like the "Texas State" name ?? Just wondering.

[LeanderLions3033]

Its been ages since Pflugerville has one district "outright". They've had alot of three way ties, but not outright. McNeil on the other hand could suprise alot of people if Cameron Rogers is as good as advertised (because he wasnt against us last year), because their defense is fairly stacked with Matt Sivels and their all district linebacker. But maybe its just me being a homer, because i didnt see CP doing it last year, but i dont see any team winning district besides Leander or Pflugerville, i think who ever wins that game is your district champ, if their is no three way tie. And just out of curiosity badger95, what makes you think Leander wont come out on top. Our team was carried by our juniors the entire year last year, encluding against you guys. Mcneil was also carried by juniors but our junior anchored team beat their junior anchored team 49-21 last year (i know that isnt the best logic, but your getting the picture). And Pflugerville's success was heavily based on how their seniors played, like Todd Walker, and Evan Roberson, Nathan Bradshaw, their senior filled Oline. So without using the logic, of we had to play this team last year, and although we lost, they didnt look that impressive, in exact order, who do you think will be our one two and three. For me, i dont even have to consider any other teams to know the 1 2 and 3 for 16-5a, its easily,
1. Westlake
2. Hays
3. Bowie
and thats without knowing who hays or bowie has returning, because it doesnt matter almost, its the same teams every year. My predictions for our district are exactly like this sites and Dave's,
1.Leander
2. Pflugerville
3. RR Mcneil

Just because Todd Walker and Evan roberson ran circles around yall on your home field, doesnt mean they will win district :D . And another question, how many times have yall lost on your home field over the past 10 years for pflugerville to just do that to you, just out of curiosity? I was thinking no more than 3 times.

[Roughrider]

Just remember, "IT'S NOT WHERE YOU ARE RANKED (OR NOT) AT THE BEGINNING OF THE SEASON THAT MATTERS!"

[c-lisle]

I think Jason Williams will be as good or better than T. Ross at running back and defensively, Matt Uzzell at LB finished the year STRONG! They lost a lot but the only weakness I see in what is replacing them is possibly the O-line. The key to Coach Owen's teams in the past is the word TEAM. He manages to get the best out of everybody and pulls them together. Everybody keeps bringing up last years losses, but forgets the nature of those losses! Injuries and the desire to not have anymore accounted for 2 of those and the other one was to Lufkin at their house. If you remember correctly, we split w/Lufkin the year before and beat Longview both times we had to play them.
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J Williams has a whole to prove and little time to do it in. We've talked about Lee's losses and injuries enough. They were healthy against Longview and were beat. Longview is 2-1 vs. Lee the last two years. We split in 03. If you consider what Lview has returning and our recent record vs. Lee I think Longveiw should be ranked higher. Just my opinion though.

[badger95]

We'll see you at Bible on August 26, Mr. Lion.

[LeanderLions3033]

^^yes we will, and ill expect a good team across from us, i just dont see the logic of us not finishing one or two. It's find that we're not getting the respect from the Westlake fans, even though we beat you last year, and the same exact team is coming back basically. But i just don't see the logic.

[badger95]

Leander will have very little depth and that will hurt their chances at a district title. They have a solid core of very athletic Srs. but they won't be able to do it all. The Lion JV was not very good last year, so there's no help there, either. Plus, the three QB rotation I've heard about coming out of there is just asking for trouble. and the center you had last year was by far your best lineman, and he's gone too.