Katy QB Discussion

[baldtiger15]

Katy has not been a team known for producing phenom quarterbacks. Looking in the past however, there have been a few. Anyone care to say who has been the best? Andy Dalton, Ben Johnson, Jared Kaspar, Matt Gore, Rob Peters are probably the best notables in the past 15 years.

[Down n' Out]

Jared Kaspar...He had great vision, great arm and was very smart. If I remember correctly I think he beat Vince Young in at least one game.

[KT2000]

Kaspar and Katy beat VY twice (99 and 00). VY got revenge in 2001.

The only thing Dalton doesn't have (as of now, anyway) that Kaspar does is a state championship appearance (and ring). Dalton has set just about every major program passing record (individual and season) this year.

[baldtiger15]

The only thing Dalton doesn't have (as of now, anyway) that Kaspar does is a state championship appearance (and ring). Dalton has set just about every major program passing record (individual and season) this year.[/QUOTE]
I agree, however, look at the offensive play calling. I dare say the Marshall Shroeder/Rob Peters combo of '94 is as lethal as any the state has ever seen. But unfortunately, that's when bread and butter Katy football was the ground attack, not 50/50 pass to run

[Down n' Out]

I really like our new offense, wide open. I think Kaspar may have had Dalton's numbers if we would have had it then. Don't get me wrong...I loved the way Dalton came back last week. You culd see the confidence returning as the game went on. That says alot.

[baldtiger15]

I really like our new offense, wide open. I think Kaspar may have had Dalton's numbers if we would have had it then. Don't get me wrong...I loved the way Dalton came back last week. You culd see the confidence returning as the game went on. That says alot.
i agree, but would Rob Peters, or Matt Gore put up the same numbers if the Katy offense was different during their day?

[gburgtiger]

The thing I haven't seen from dalton this year is the lead blocking ability. Kaspar use to pitch to a back and hit the corner and level a line backer clearing the way. He was an extrodinary blocker on run plays. It seems that dalton does more of the hand off and pretend you still have the ball thing.

[baldtiger15]

The thing I haven't seen from dalton this year is the lead blocking ability. Kaspar use to pitch to a back and hit the corner and level a line backer clearing the way. He was an extrodinary blocker on run plays. It seems that dalton does more of the hand off and pretend you still have the ball thing.
This is the kind of thing I'm talking about. Passing stats aren't the only thing in determining the best. I recall Gore getting his share of stingers as well. I venture to say that Ben Johnson may be the one with the best leadership. What else?

[Down n' Out]

Sounds like...Kaspar is in the lead...
This is a good thread.

[BigWhiteJake]

hands down Jared Kaspar was the best

Gore and Peters were certainly the best athletes, Peters even went on to play at Tech...

Andy is good, but i still say I want a QB who can throw on the run when I play a good team, hes probably just the beneficiary of a morbidly weak schedule

[KTFURB]

Jared gets my vote. Accurate passer, strong running threat and very few mental mistakes. In the state game against JT he was 10 of 15 w/ 2 throw downs to stop the clock a one drop. He ran the offense to perfection. Gore ran the offense well but had a hitch in his throwing motion. Ben lacked the physical skills of Jared and Rob but made up for it in leadership ability. During his senior year during mid season a lot of Katy fans, including myself, thought the back up should have been given more playing time, but Ben proved the coaches right in the playoffs. Rob was so long ago its hard to remember, but Coach J. was quoted as saying he was the best QB he'd ever coached. And that statement was made afer Gore and Kaspar. Rob is the only one to play at the next level!?

[Oldman123]

Matt Gore is the best, multiple coaches told us that and they are the ones i trust. Great arm and the best scrambler.

[katybacker]

I think each QB had their strengths. But I am going to take a page from Coach Johnston, when asked which was his best team, "the record speaks for itself " meaning the 2000 team was his best team. I have to go with the stats, Andy is by far the best passer in Katy football history. No other QB had the accuracy and arm strength to go along with it. Remember, Andy is doing this in his first real year to start full time. Given the opportunity to have been a full time starter last year, one-we would have beaten Clear Lake, SV, and SLC, two-no telling how much better he would have been this year. Kaspar, Peters, and Gore were all 2 year starters, that makes a huge difference for a QB. Like Peters, I think you will see Dalton in Division I. Might even see him on Sundays, who knows.

[baldtiger15]

Gore did go on to the next level but not as QB and not Div I. Kaspar did play for a year in college as well. Peters only one to go DI, and play thus far. Andy has committed to TCU. Not so sure about playing on Sundays though. Only 2 Tigers(rumored a third) have made it to the NFL.

[Down n' Out]

I thought Kaspar got a baseball scholarship to Southwest Texas, not football. I don't understand how he didn't get a football scholarship.

[nate]

Peters beat the Longhorns when they were loaded at WR and RB. He was the best player on the field that night with the biggest heart of them all. For that, he gets my vote.

[KT2000]

Peters may be the best athlete period to step on campus in my opinion.

BWJ, we've had our debate on this but I think you are seriously shortchanging Dalton's ability if you think it's only due to a weak schedule. He can make passes no Katy QB I've seen has made (or could make) consistently.

Probably the biggest play he made in last week's game was on the move when he launched a pass to Bobby Harris, who then ran it down to the five for a 60+ yard play. Also, the winning TD came on a rollout pass. I can respect an opinion, but nothing you say about Dalton matches what's actually happening on the field.

[baldtiger15]

I don't know about the best athlete to step on campus, I could contend some other names to that list. Peters was QB during the beginning of the Hawg era, and when we ran the ball all but 3rd and long. When you pass only 8 or 9 times a game you can't throw up the numbers like Dalton has this year. Same is true with Gore. What categories can we decide upon to attempt to rank these men with a 1-4?
Accuracy
Arm Strength
Leadership
Poise
Blocking
Running/Scrambling
??

[rellufnalla]

Peters may be the best athlete period to step on campus in my opinion.

BWJ, we've had our debate on this but I think you are seriously shortchanging Dalton's ability if you think it's only due to a weak schedule. He can make passes no Katy QB I've seen has made (or could make) consistently.

Probably the biggest play he made in last week's game was on the move when he launched a pass to Bobby Harris, who then ran it down to the five for a 60+ yard play. Also, the winning TD came on a rollout pass. I can respect an opinion, but nothing you say about Dalton matches what's actually happening on the field.

And some have stated that Andy was unable to pass on the move. They might reconsider that position.

[AZTiger]

I don't know about the best athlete to step on campus, I could contend some other names to that list. Peters was QB during the beginning of the Hawg era, and when we ran the ball all but 3rd and long. When you pass only 8 or 9 times a game you can't throw up the numbers like Dalton has this year. Same is true with Gore. What categories can we decide upon to attempt to rank these men with a 1-4?
Accuracy
Arm Strength
Leadership
Poise
Blocking
Running/Scrambling
??

Accuracy - Dalton
Arm Strength - toss up, with Kaspar maybe slightly behind because of that slingin' side arm motion
Leadership - All of them
Poise - Andy or Matt
Blocking - Matt Gore...by FAR
Running - Jared or Matt

And I agree with KT2000, Rob was the best athlete ever at Katy. Ran the point to perfection in basketball, and didn't even play his best sport (baseball) his senior year. He was able to hit a ton in baseball and he didn't even hold the bat right (so I've been told, I heard he lined up his big knuckles while holding a bat)

[KT2000]

Aston obviously has a spot in the "best athlete" debate as well.

I remember watching Gore blow people up on pitch. That 97 team is definitely the most physical Katy team I've ever seen, and I don't think it's close. 98 was extremely physical as well with some key returning players from 97.

[MB1243]

I was little so I dont remember much about rob playing, but my mom is best friends with Mrs. Peters and both of the peters kids (son and daughter) were ****** athletes. As for rob being the best athlete ever on campus i'd disagree. The best qb in my opinion we've had was definitely jared kaspar everyone at katy knows that, only way dalton can steal that title is with a championship this year.

[AZTiger]

when i say "best athlete" i dont mean most raw athletic talent. Rob was a starter in varisty football, basketball and baseball as a SOPHOMORE, something I doubt many in the history of Katy in the 5A era can claim.

[bowski99]

All these QB's were/are damn good. There's no question about that. Some have mentioned that Peters/Schroeder(94), Gore/Branch(98), and Dalton/Fuda(05) are among the best QB/WR combos that Katy has had. One that has been left of the list that I think is worthy in this discussion was Robey Williams/Christian Reyes(92). Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't these two hook up for the game winning TD against Clements in the nail bitter at the Dome? Didn't Williams go play at a college in Tennessee?

[AZTiger]

All these QB's were/are damn good. There's no question about that. Some have mentioned that Peters/Schroeder(94), Gore/Branch(98), and Dalton/Fuda(05) are among the best QB/WR combos that Katy has had. One that has been left of the list that I think is worthy in this discussion was Robey Williams/Christian Reyes(92). Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't these two hook up for the game winning TD against Clements in the nail bitter at the Dome? Didn't Williams go play at a college in Tennessee?

Robie played at Tennessee State, and then later at WMJH on some winter Saturday afternoons with a certain group of ex-Katy guys :)

They also hooked up for the game winner vs. Jersey Village that same year, when Christian Reyes unveiled the Dirty Bird. No Jamal Anderson, you didn't start it!

[BigWhiteJake]

Yeah Katy we've been down this road. But, Andy cracked last game under an average at best defense. Kaspar had John Tyler twice, Elsik twice, Hastings, and that Aldine team that was suppose to cream us, Dobie was suppose to whip us too I remember. Certainly competition and lack of pocket pressure has contributed to Andy's stats, am I wrong? I am willing to go...

Kaspar
Peters
Gore
Andy

[Tut]

Yeah Katy we've been down this road. But, Andy cracked last game under an average at best defense. Kaspar had John Tyler twice, Elsik twice, Hastings, and that Aldine team that was suppose to cream us, Dobie was suppose to whip us too I remember. Certainly competition and lack of pocket pressure has contributed to Andy's stats, am I wrong? I am willing to go...

Kaspar
Peters
Gore
Andy
Neither Aldine or Dobie were suppsed to whip us, but the season long competition was much stronger. Andy finished strong even though he cracked (a finger) early.
All of them have been leaders of outstanding teams. Let's see how Dalton finishes up.

[baldtiger15]

I had forgotten to respect ole Robey- apologies.
Why doesn't Johnson get any lip service in this argument? Connected with Mouton a number of times... even to beat SLC. My argument, not the best athlete in the bunch, but definitely the most mentally tough.

[BigWhiteJake]

why doesnt ben johnson get props over kaspar, gore, andy, and peters....

maybe cuz he had to have gayhart bail him out of the cinco game...

or just really wasnt as good as any of them? or even close??

[KT2000]

Johnson helped lead the team to a 15-1 season, and played the game of his life against Southlake Carroll. He didn't have the physical talent of a Peters, Gore or Kaspar but he was a great leader. He struggled in the early-mid regular season, but played nearly flawless football from the Taylor game on. He managed the games as well as any Katy QB I've seen in the playoffs during the '03 run.

For a supposed Katy supporter BWJ, you sure don't have a lot of positive things to say about the program on many topics (not including Kaspar or the old coaching staff anyway).

[BigWhiteJake]

after seeing the worst game they played all year i am picking them to beat the best team they played all year... because im not blind, deaf, and dumb to all things with a tiger head doesnt mean i dont support them... or moreoever because i actually know a thing or two...

[KT2000]

I've run this website (5A Texas Football.com, not Katy Football.com) for five years now, and have personally seen high school football played in six different states (8 if you count film). I played the game. I study the game. I'd say I can put things in perspective.

I was at Katy from 1996 to 2000, so if anything I'd be more critical of guys coming through today because "they don't stand up to my generation." I'm not that ignorant.

I can understand "keeping it real", but you seem to find ways to backhand aspects of the program in just about every thread you post in.

[Down n' Out]

You say it's the worst game they played all year...I think there could be a point made, that it was the best game they played all year.

[ktfan2005]

well lets jsut say yeah andy has had a weak schedule but well he put those numbers up only playing half or maybe not even 2 full quarters now do u tikn ne of them coulda done those numbers in just half the game

[BigWhiteJake]

Ok..I picked them to beat SV, the first decent team they have played all year. I am sitting in Katy High School right now as a matter of fact. The way y'all talk, its like I'm rooting for another team just because I don't think...

1)Katy will win state
2)Andy is the best QB in our history
3)The coaching staff is better than it used to be

I mean the fact is we arent likely to beat Southlake...Andy only started for one year so I don't see how the two compare, hes also playing behind a SPECTACULAR offensive line and throwing to fantastic receivers. Also, I don't see how you can lose Johnston and Massey and improve on the whole. Joseph is the best coach in Region III, no doubt, but explain to me how the staff is better as whole. Just because I have an unbias view because I am forced to by lets say job restraints...so KT2000, when y'all pick Southlake to beat Katy, I guess you will be backhanding the program...next week, we'll see

[KT2000]

What do you know about the current assistant coaches aside from the fact they aren't named Chris Massey or Mike Johnston?

[MWKT]

I've run this website (5A Texas Football.com, not Katy Football.com) for five years now, and have personally seen high school football played in six different states (8 if you count film). I played the game. I study the game. I'd say I can put things in perspective.

I was at Katy from 1996 to 2000, so if anything I'd be more critical of guys coming through today because "they don't stand up to my generation." I'm not that ignorant.

I can understand "keeping it real", but you seem to find ways to backhand aspects of the program in just about every thread you post in.

I'm glad I'm not the only one getting negative vibes re: BWJ's posts.

[BigWhiteJake]

Ive known Todd Moebes since I was born. He and BJ Gotte went to school with my brother all the way through Kindergarten. He goes to my church. I know all the offensive lineman hate Brixey to death because I hear it everyday, I know every day I hear "I wish Massey was back"...I know theres no way anyone can replace the 20 years of experience Bruno had with linebackers, or the personal relationships just because hes an all around great guy. I know they are all regarded in their profession as good, and their results lead me to believe they are very adept at their profession. However it is stupid to say they supercede their predecessors. KT2000- is it your opinion that coaching right now is better than in 2003, if so just say it out loud, dont beat around the bush. I know however that cannot be your opinion because you played for those guys and know how much they did with how little.

[nate]

I think its pretty obvious to most real football followers on this board that BigWhiteJake isn't the sharpest football mind in the room. I appreciate your comments, Jake, and sometimes you are spot on. However, recently, your bias against the current Katy team is showing itself. You say that you are "objective" and "realistic," but the truth is even your posts about other teams aren't accurate.

If it were just Katy that your comments were about, I could write that off as simple bias (which I still believe plays some part in all this). But you've made several comments about other teams either inflating their status (i.e. SLC '05 is the best team ever) or selling them short.

Keep the comments coming by all means. But please don't try and pass yourself off as a football guru or even someone that knows a lot about the Katy program. Keep it real, Jake.

[nate]

I know all the offensive lineman hate Brixey to death because I hear it everyday, I know every day I hear "I wish Massey was back".

For what its worth, most of Bobby Knight's players don't like him much while they are playing for him either. But he's one of the best of all time and almost all of them have great things to say when they are through and finally gain some perspective.

I'd much rather have a real good coach that doesn't care about hurting his players' feelings than a less-qualified coach that coddles the boys through their teenage years.

[KT2000]

I think it's stupid to have a strong opinion either way right now because the current staff is only in their second season together. It's an unfair comparison and one you can't make at this point in my opinion. The previous regime was together for the better part of 20 years.

I can't tell you one way or the other about Brixey's popularity (don't speak to any current OL regularly), but I can tell you I knew quite a few players that couldn't stand certain coaches in the previous group either. Most people don't like those who critique everything they do, but they respect what they are being taught or later realize just how valuable it was.

You confirmed my suspicions with the response though. I don't get the impression you can tell me much about the current staff as far as their football credentials are concerned outside of Moebes and maybe Landers.

[BigWhiteJake]

outside of moebes, landers, gotte, joseph, miller, and brixey, and little joseph...and peace...is that not most? is that not enough to make a generic statement? during district yall were comparing andy to kaspar...talk about jumping the gun on comparisons...dont you think its fair to say coaches get better the more they coach, would it not be difficult for them to be at that level right now? im not going to argue because its pointless and leads down a trail of opinions...i would appreciate if you would respect what i said though instead of staying vague and playing genius

[baldtiger15]

No one is going to say anything negative about the "in house" coaches quality or integrity (Moebes, Landers, lil Joseph) As for the others, There are 4 coaches new to the staff this year alone. Hard to tell what the future years will hold with this group. The average turnover in the coaching world is very high, not much more than a few years. The 18 yr. core of coaches that built Katy is definitely an exception to the rule. As far as popularity of Brixey, he is a good coach, and has taken the offense to a balanced look. I don't care if people don't like him. For every person that has something good to say about Mike Johnston, I can find 2 that can't stand the man. Personally, my position coach at Katy was a cool, nice guy. But I felt his knowledge of the sport was below caliber for Katy standards. He didnt' stick around very long.

[AZTiger]

Personally, my position coach at Katy was a cool, nice guy. But I felt his knowledge of the sport was below caliber for Katy standards. He didnt' stick around very long.

You might be right, but he's having some success where he is now.

Turnover at Katy can be quite high sometimes because when you are a coach at a top program, other schools come after you for OC/DC or HC positions. That's what's happened to a lot of our staff.

[BigWhiteJake]

they could well be the best coaching staff in texas right now, but man the coaches they used to have, man o man, we will see over the next few years, if they can keep the program at a great level with only a few returning starters

[KT2000]

There's nothing vague about my posts BWJ, but it is amusing watching you scramble around the questions I'm asking you. You made no mention of the other coaches in your previous post as it pertains to their football credentials.

No need to play genius when I'm dealing with someone who obviously doesn't bother to read my posts.

You might want to think about practicing what you preach as far as blind loyalties go.

[baldtiger15]

[QUOTE=AZTiger]You might be right, but he's having some success where he is now.
QUOTE]
I've heard that, and I'm very proud of him. Great guy, good family, but he wanted an OC position. I have fond memories of "panama Jack". But I also know Katy was just a stepping stone for him, and I feel that it delayed getting Katy's passing game to the level it is now.

[baldtiger15]

Have we ventured far enough off topic to close this thread now?

[AZTiger]

[QUOTE=AZTiger]You might be right, but he's having some success where he is now.
QUOTE]
I've heard that, and I'm very proud of him. Great guy, good family, but he wanted an OC position. I have fond memories of "panama Jack". But I also know Katy was just a stepping stone for him, and I feel that it delayed getting Katy's passing game to the level it is now.

I've got to respectfully disagree. We could have had Jerry freakin' Rice coaching our wideouts and we'd still would have been running the ball two or three times as much as we passed.

[BigWhiteJake]

What am I blindly loyal to? Not being blindly loyal? You're tricky old grasshopper...

[KT2000]

You just seem to have a real bias to the old coaching staff and have seen you take shots at the current numerous times.

Not going to bore you with any more facts on this subject.

On topic...Katy's had some good QBs and each a unique style and attitude about them. Not one standard model.

[jrd0202]

Back on the best athlete discussion... There was a guy in the secondary during the 1995 season... Flashy guy, played safety I think. He'd rank up there.

But as far as No. 1 goes I'd put Schroeder up against any, maybe with the exception of Mouton.

[AZTiger]

Back on the best athlete discussion... There was a guy in the secondary during the 1995 season... Flashy guy, played safety I think. He'd rank up there.

But as far as No. 1 goes I'd put Schroeder up against any, maybe with the exception of Mouton.

Kobina Bryant, that's gotta be who you're thinkin of, he was a CB

[jrd0202]

Thats it... For some reason I couldn't get Cutino out of my head. :)

[ktCarl]

hes probably just the beneficiary of a morbidly weak schedule

I highly disagree. Katy has been putting up big passing numbers because they finally have BOTH the talent level at QB and WR. On the first big pass to Harris, Andy has got one defender on him and releases the pass as he's getting hit by another. He still threw the ball 25-30yds downfield over the defenders head. Even though I currently like Kaspar the best (stronger runner) I think the jury is out until this season finishes.

[BigWhiteJake]

ktcarl, are you talking about the play on 3rd and 10 that was a lame duck that bobby turned to run under that could well have been interception #3?

if not, my bad, i didnt see what your referring to

[rellufnalla]

I highly disagree. Katy has been putting up big passing numbers because they finally have BOTH the talent level at QB and WR. On the first big pass to Harris, Andy has got one defender on him and releases the pass as he's getting hit by another. He still threw the ball 25-30yds downfield over the defenders head. Even though I currently like Kaspar the best (stronger runner) I think the jury is out until this season finishes.

Quiet, cool, doesn't call attention to himself, not a braggart, listens and executes. Outstanding disipline and teamwork.

[BigWhiteJake]

sounds like you would rather have the artful dodger playing qb than roger the dodger...

(thats a reference to roger staubach who played a little qb back in the day)

(the artful dodger is a character in dickens' oliver twist)

eh nvm, those who get it will laugh and those who dont wont

[Oldman123]

The only reason Dalton has better passing numbers is because of the change of OC. Massey loved to run the ball and used it to set up the pass. This team dosent run the ball as well see last game, and it almost cost them. The new OC Brixey? loves to throw thats why Dalton looks so good not because they are the most talented QB WR combo. Massey was a cool coach ive talked to current olineman and they dont like the new guy because they have to do a bunch of extra crap Massey did not make them do. Ask any fromer player, hawgs had a pretty light load during the season. I dont know how things are run now.

[BigWhiteJake]

my god i could kiss old man...its like someone finally understands that statistics arent the cornerstone of talent...im just kidding, i love all of you...especially my fellow katyites who are calling me in record numbers, just FYI... im being burnt at the stake tomorrow for not thinking andy is better than mcelroy...

[oldtiger]

I don't think that you can compare the quarterbacks based on stats alone. The offensive gameplan has changed so much in the last 10 years. Rob didn't but up the numbers because he had the luxury to hand the ball of to the best running back in the state in 1994 with a darn good oline. Gore was the quarterback with the best offensive line in the state in 1997 and with a dominate running game in 1998. Kaspar had weapons all around him and was in an offense that was build from clock management in mind similar to the previous 2.

This season the ball has been thrown more than in the past, especially in the red zone. In part do to the combo of the receivers and the quarterback, partly due to Brixey's idea, and you can claim all you want that this isn't one of the factors but the teams that they have played haven't been on par with the teams in the past. I know it is not the teams fault that the teams that were on their schedule were in down cycles in their programs.

My point on the weaker teams meaning that they could risk throwing the ball and slowing the game down or turning it over because most of the teams they played didn't have offenses that scared anyone or defenses that were capable of stopping them if they chose to run.

Andy is a great QB and I have nothing but the highest respect for him, and I feel that he will be successful in college so please don;t think I am dogging him.

[KTHoC]

I remember the 2003 season and all (most) of the fans were wanting Johnston to put Ben in as back up and start Gayhart. We were wrong on that one. Maybe the pressure from the fans got his attention and he picked his game up a notch. I don't know, just a thought.
Kaspar was a great HS QB. He had good leadership, athleticism and ability. Gore, Peters and Dalton again are/were fine QB's. They all came into play at the right time with the right team. What I mean is that each team had its own personality and it is difficult to compare each of them due to the different types of teams that were fielded each of those seasons. The coaching staff has had to make the best decisions of how to utilize the group of kids they had. Each of those QB's had different styles and different nucleuses to operate with. The Katy style was run it down their throat and then pass when they are unable to swallow any more. 2000 and 2005 are the only recent years that pass has dominated the games. '05 more so than '00. I feel the QB's accomplishments are just the product of their ability sided with the team make-up and chemistry.
I think that Andy is about the most poised QB I remember at Katy. That along with his field vision and quick thinking is going to serve him well at the next level. To play at that level as a QB, you better be able to pass and connect with your receivers. He is very capable. I agree that he just didn't get enough time at the helm last season to propel him as high as he is capable of going. We will have to wait until the season ends to see what his legacy will be. :cool:

[baldtiger15]

[QUOTE=baldtiger15]

I've got to respectfully disagree. We could have had Jerry freakin' Rice coaching our wideouts and we'd still would have been running the ball two or three times as much as we passed.
AZ you crack me up. I agree one hundred percent! Very Nice

[BayouBoy34]

J

For a supposed Katy supporter BWJ, you sure don't have a lot of positive things to say about the program on many topics (not including Kaspar or the old coaching staff anyway).

Agree with you KT2000 - is BWJ a Katy hater in disguise? I see more postive comments from the San Antonio area:confused: :confused:

[rellufnalla]

The only reason Dalton has better passing numbers is because of the change of OC. Massey loved to run the ball and used it to set up the pass. This team dosent run the ball as well see last game, and it almost cost them. The new OC Brixey? loves to throw thats why Dalton looks so good not because they are the most talented QB WR combo. Massey was a cool coach ive talked to current olineman and they dont like the new guy because they have to do a bunch of extra crap Massey did not make them do. Ask any fromer player, hawgs had a pretty light load during the season. I dont know how things are run now.


We (the crowd) often referred to Massey's gameplan as - " Worley, Worley, pass, punt".

Sometimes you might have heard us yelling - "Turn the page!"

[baldtiger15]

We (the crowd) often referred to Massey's gameplan as - " Worley, Worley, pass, punt".

Sometimes you might have heard us yelling - "Turn the page!"
Unfortunately they couldn't turn the page. It was carved in stone when Mike Jonston came off the mountain to Katy in 82. It read like this.
1. Thou shalt not pass on 1st down.
2. Thou shalt not pass on 2nd down.
3. Thou shalt pass on third down, and have no other passes before me.
3. Thou shalt punt on fourth.
Amen- and it was so.

(I'm gonna get so much crap for that one!)

[rellufnalla]

Gentlemen, we have a literary genius of biblical proportions among us.

Best passage I've read yet!

[BigWhiteJake]

dont even dog big mike. mike johnston is the best football coach in the history of katy high school, bar none, your talking about a guy that could see the texas sports hall of fame...obviously for efforts as a player and coach, nevertheless... in 2000 they had such a dynamic offense, and played such a monster schedule...in '02 beating Humble twice was just poetic...in '03 the last win over Southlake was a great feat of coaching...I know your just making a crack but Mike Johnston is the reason we are still winning today...