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jrock210
01-21-2009, 11:07 PM
...is not black.

...is not white.

....is not Muslim.

...is not Somalian.

...is not Hawaiian.

My President is a president.

Nothing more nothing less.

Race doesn't (and shouldn't) matter.
All that should matter is the politics.

Obama is black....not 100% true.
Obama is the new American president....100% true.

People need to grow up and stop looking at the presidency as a popularity contest based on race.
Tuesday, I went and picked someone up from the airport and while I was there I saw a black guy shouting things and waving an Obama flag around saying stuff that pretty much compared Obama to a God. He shouted numerous times Black people are going to rise up and now take over the world and Obama has all the black culture on his back.

When will people grow up and not see just black and white but see red, white. and blue.

It's sad when a high school kid is getting fed up with society nowadays. When will people learn that whether they are black, white, brown, yellow, or any other color they are all equals.

American my message to you is to grow up and see the next set of Presidential Candidates as not white or black (or Brown or Yellow if need be) but as an American who will need support to run this country.

And if yall did not know I do not support Obama. My personal reasons for why I believe McCain would be better for the job are easy to understand.
I believe a President should have been in the military for any amount of time before they are elected to even run for President.
Just my opinion.
Thanks for listening..

BDB
01-21-2009, 11:48 PM
wait till he's mexican. we're gonna start fencin yall off..... watch out canada.

yankee
01-21-2009, 11:49 PM
oh yeah? well my vice president is white!

dragons08
01-21-2009, 11:54 PM
Well, my Secretary of State is a woman.

BDB
01-21-2009, 11:59 PM
MY vp is catholic.

stevefoxsc
01-22-2009, 12:23 AM
my elpresidente is german

svhorns
01-22-2009, 12:25 AM
el prezidente is asian

BDB
01-22-2009, 12:58 AM
you're both wrong

http://www.shelleytherepublican.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/mexican-joe-front.jpg

BDB
01-22-2009, 01:07 AM
here to ruffle more feathers. that drunk mexican picture above, i got it off this disgusting facist righty, who i only learned about because of this picture.

this woman is a tool, i would punch this woman in the mouth if i ever saw her, and my take is to NEVER hit a woman. in this case, i could make the exception.

worst joke ever.....off her crap website.
A Mexican, an Arab, and a redneck girl are in the same bar.

When the Mexican finishes his beer, he throws his glass in the air, pulls out his pistol, and shoots the glass to pieces. He says, ‘In Mexico , our glasses are so cheap we don’t need to drink with the same one twice.’


Mexican illegal immigrants: Stealing your jobs, raping your children.

The Arab, obviously impressed by this, drinks his beer, throws it into the air, pulls out his AK-47, and shoots the glass to pieces. He says, ‘In the Arab World, we have so much sand to make glasses that we don’t need to drink with the same one twice either.’


Arab illegal immigrants: Stealing your jobs, raping your children.

The redneck girl, cool as a cucumber, picks up her beer, downs it in one gulp, throws th e glass into the air, whips out her 45, and shoots the Mexican and the Arab. Catching her glass, setting it on the bar, and calling for a refill, she says,

‘In America we have so many illegal aliens that we don’t have to drink with the same ones twice.’


ever wonder why the world is starting to (or in some countries has) hates(d) america? :rolleyes: it's okay though, we're america...... we don't need nobody else.

slorch
01-22-2009, 05:40 AM
Well, my Secretary of State is a woman.

I don't think that's been proven beyond a reasonable doubt...:D

mad_fan
01-22-2009, 06:43 AM
wait till he's mexican. we're gonna start fencin yall off..... watch out canada.

Look around...Canadians have no reason to come here...no fence required...

jrock210
01-22-2009, 07:44 AM
/facepalm

country club
01-22-2009, 07:54 AM
My country is in trouble

svhorns
01-22-2009, 08:02 AM
My country is in trouble

move to the United States... we just hired a new president...

TexasRed6x
01-22-2009, 08:50 AM
oh yeah? well my vice president is white!

and bush is an idiot! :D

pack75
01-22-2009, 01:46 PM
here to ruffle more feathers. that drunk mexican picture above, i got it off this disgusting facist righty, who i only learned about because of this picture.

this woman is a tool, i would punch this woman in the mouth if i ever saw her, and my take is to NEVER hit a woman. in this case, i could make the exception.

worst joke ever.....off her crap website.
A Mexican, an Arab, and a redneck girl are in the same bar.

When the Mexican finishes his beer, he throws his glass in the air, pulls out his pistol, and shoots the glass to pieces. He says, ‘In Mexico , our glasses are so cheap we don’t need to drink with the same one twice.’


Mexican illegal immigrants: Stealing your jobs, raping your children.

The Arab, obviously impressed by this, drinks his beer, throws it into the air, pulls out his AK-47, and shoots the glass to pieces. He says, ‘In the Arab World, we have so much sand to make glasses that we don’t need to drink with the same one twice either.’


Arab illegal immigrants: Stealing your jobs, raping your children.

The redneck girl, cool as a cucumber, picks up her beer, downs it in one gulp, throws th e glass into the air, whips out her 45, and shoots the Mexican and the Arab. Catching her glass, setting it on the bar, and calling for a refill, she says,

‘In America we have so many illegal aliens that we don’t have to drink with the same ones twice.’


ever wonder why the world is starting to (or in some countries has) hates(d) america? :rolleyes: it's okay though, we're america...... we don't need nobody else.

Unfortunately the majority on this message board is not gonna get your message....America is just soooo perfect and doesn't act in any ill manner towards anyone.
It's never America's fault. :rolleyes:

JMSFan
01-22-2009, 01:50 PM
Unfortunately the majority on this message board is not gonna get your message....America is just soooo perfect and doesn't act in any ill manner towards anyone.
It's never America's fault. :rolleyes:

What exactly is America's fault?

pack75
01-22-2009, 01:53 PM
What exactly is America's fault?

You're always right there waiting to respond to my posts...I feel so privileged. :D :rolleyes:

drgnbkr
01-22-2009, 01:53 PM
What exactly is America's fault?

Cheez Whiz?

JMSFan
01-22-2009, 01:53 PM
You're always right there waiting to respond to my posts...I feel so privileged. :D :rolleyes:

I just asked for an explanation, thats all. Lets hear it.

pack75
01-22-2009, 01:54 PM
What exactly is America's fault?

See elprezidente...JMSFan proves my point. ;)

JMSFan
01-22-2009, 01:56 PM
Cheez Whiz?

Cheez Whiz,the pocket fisherman, and a bunch others.

JMSFan
01-22-2009, 01:58 PM
See elprezidente...JMSFan proves my point. ;)

All I asked was a question. The fact that you wont offer an explanation must mean you really cant explain. it. Its just some more crap and accusations that are spewed from people like yourself.

drgnbkr
01-22-2009, 02:09 PM
All I asked was a question. The fact that you wont offer an explanation must mean you really cant explain. it. Its just some more crap and accusations that are spewed from people like yourself.

One of the requirements for liberalism is to blame America first. It seems downright unamerican, but they have made it fashionable.

DragonWatcher
01-22-2009, 02:12 PM
What exactly is America's fault?

It's easy to argue the current regime in Iran is our fault, the destabilization of Afghanistan after their war with the soviets is our fault, etc. Doesn't mean we aren't doing the right thing now but when your the world power broker your bound to make some mistakes that will bight you in the @$$ 30-40 years down the road.

DragonWatcher
01-22-2009, 02:13 PM
One of the requirements for liberalism is to blame America first. It seems downright unamerican, but they have made it fashionable.

And one of the requirements of conservatism is intellectual stupidity. It's quite easy to stereotype than to have actual dialogue.

pack75
01-22-2009, 02:24 PM
All I asked was a question. The fact that you wont offer an explanation must mean you really cant explain. it. Its just some more crap and accusations that are spewed from people like yourself.

You are soooo right. :rolleyes:

You people crack me up! :laugh

BDB
01-22-2009, 02:24 PM
All I asked was a question. The fact that you wont offer an explanation must mean you really cant explain. it. Its just some more crap and accusations that are spewed from people like yourself.

the pompous arrogance that screeeeeams eitist, that some of ya'll hate the euro's for so much.

"why should i have to learn their stupid languages, i'm american" is what they hate us for, "your views on the world is wrong, listen to america" is what's wrong with us. we're, as a majority, so selfish that we can't even fathom the thought of sharing what we have with people from smaller countries.

"we earned it".... yea okay, stupid me hoping to find some compassion for people who need it.

don't worry yall, we'll NEVER have to rely on anyone else for anything......anyone talk to the chinese and all of a sudden why we're kissin *** they way they've always done to us?

:rolleyes:

BDB
01-22-2009, 02:25 PM
One of the requirements for liberalism is to blame America first. It seems downright unamerican, but they have made it fashionable.

it's as american to think that the nation of immigrants should put up fences with the neighbor to the south who's in need of help ;)

JMSFan
01-22-2009, 02:51 PM
the pompous arrogance that screeeeeams eitist, that some of ya'll hate the euro's for so much.

"why should i have to learn their stupid languages, i'm american" is what they hate us for, "your views on the world is wrong, listen to america" is what's wrong with us. we're, as a majority, so selfish that we can't even fathom the thought of sharing what we have with people from smaller countries.

"we earned it".... yea okay, stupid me hoping to find some compassion for people who need it.

don't worry yall, we'll NEVER have to rely on anyone else for anything......anyone talk to the chinese and all of a sudden why we're kissin *** they way they've always done to us?

:rolleyes:

So....thats your explanation? Another question.... have you ever served in the armed forces overseas? Germany, Japan, maybe Korea?

JMSFan
01-22-2009, 02:52 PM
You are soooo right. :rolleyes:

You people crack me up! :laugh

Not an explanation? Still waiting to hear from you, dont let someone else speak for you.

JMSFan
01-22-2009, 02:55 PM
One of the requirements for liberalism is to blame America first. It seems downright unamerican, but they have made it fashionable.

Exactly. Even to the point that they will spout off these things, but yet cant think far enough ahead to have a bonafide explanation.

pack75
01-22-2009, 03:13 PM
Not an explanation? Still waiting to hear from you, dont let someone else speak for you.

Geeesh...well shutup then. ;)

Let someone else prove my point.....you're being a ball-hog. :D

BDB
01-22-2009, 03:14 PM
Not an explanation? Still waiting to hear from you, dont let someone else speak for you.

i think i said it was the elitism, selfishness, colse-mindedness, and hypocrisy that did it....

JMSFan
01-22-2009, 03:19 PM
i think i said it was the elitism, selfishness, colse-mindedness, and hypocrisy that did it....

And so conservative Americans are the only ones that have these traits? Go ahead, sound really stupid and answer yes.

Must be a real tough life living in the valley where its 81% hispanic, and you still consider yourselves a minority. Lets talk hypocrisy.

HUM398
01-22-2009, 03:25 PM
the pompous arrogance that screeeeeams eitist, that some of ya'll hate the euro's for so much.

"why should i have to learn their stupid languages, i'm american" is what they hate us for, "your views on the world is wrong, listen to america" is what's wrong with us. we're, as a majority, so selfish that we can't even fathom the thought of sharing what we have with people from smaller countries.

"we earned it".... yea okay, stupid me hoping to find some compassion for people who need it.

don't worry yall, we'll NEVER have to rely on anyone else for anything......anyone talk to the chinese and all of a sudden why we're kissin *** they way they've always done to us?

:rolleyes:

Who gives a :Censor:.

I just cling to my guns and religion anyway.



We don't kiss Chinese ***.....only in your wet dreams.

BDB
01-22-2009, 03:26 PM
And so conservative Americans are the only ones that have these traits? Go ahead, sound really stupid and answer yes.

Must be a real tough life living in the valley where its 81% hispanic, and you still consider yourselves a minority. Lets talk hypocrisy.

conservative or democrat has nothing to do with it. once again, you've assumed something i never said. i said the problem WITH THIS COUNTRY is **insert last post here**. i could careless if they were white, black, yellow, purple, pink, or polka-dotted. it's a problem that every generation, sect, culture, ect. has.

you really need to stop over-analyzing what i say.

BDB
01-22-2009, 03:26 PM
Who gives a :Censor:.

I just cling to my guns and religion anyway.



We don't kiss Chinese ***.....only in your wet dreams.

.....if china falls, we fall. and if we fall, china falls.

it's a love/hate relationship between the two of us, and we both know it.

pack75
01-22-2009, 03:31 PM
And so conservative Americans are the only ones that have these traits? Go ahead, sound really stupid and answer yes.

Must be a real tough life living in the valley where its 81% hispanic, and you still consider yourselves a minority. Lets talk hypocrisy.

elprez, you see why I didn't waste my time answering his ignorant question.

***Side Note: For some reason some people think you have to be either consverv. or lib. in America. You can't just be YOU. :rolleyes:

HUM398
01-22-2009, 03:31 PM
.....if china falls, we fall. and if we fall, china falls.

it's a love/hate relationship between the two of us, and we both know it.

Nay.

Where exactly would China fall too? We built their freaking economy....and could easily cause its collapse with shifting our demand elsewhere. Not all things are as they seem. If one falls, their is always another to take its place. It would be a pain in the *** if their economy collapses but far from our collapse.

and I couldn't imagine a situation where they would stop feeding us lead filled children toys and your multi colored Er' force ones.

15Adragon
01-22-2009, 03:32 PM
I'm wishing him the best but not expecting much other than a lot of hot air.

HUM398
01-22-2009, 03:34 PM
elprez, you see why I didn't waste my time answering his ignorant question.

***Side Note: For some reason people think you have to be either consverv. or lib. in America. You can't just be YOU. :rolleyes:

Well you certainly fall into one of those categories......

You are either Liberal Minded or Conservative.....I suppose you could be an anarchist....

JMSFan
01-22-2009, 03:51 PM
Well you certainly fall into one of those categories......

You are either Liberal Minded or Conservative.....I suppose you could be an anarchist....

The original question I asked Pack75 had nothing to do with either political party, or any thing else other than why was it America's fault.

pack75
01-22-2009, 03:59 PM
The original question I asked Pack75 had nothing to do with either political party, or any thing else other than why was it America's fault.

this is what elprez was trying to tell you! What he said had nothing to do with that either! You're the one who brought it up.

Wow! You're not doing yourself any justice....just let it go for your own good.

RedRage00
01-22-2009, 04:01 PM
Well you certainly fall into one of those categories......

You are either Liberal Minded or Conservative.....I suppose you could be an anarchist....

You don't believe people can be in the middle?

rocketgrl94
01-22-2009, 04:04 PM
You don't believe people can be in the middle?

SAMMICH?:p

pack75
01-22-2009, 04:07 PM
You don't believe people can be in the middle?

Nope...one or the other....and btw, America is perfect and can never be the blame for anything bad! :D :rolleyes:

HUM398
01-22-2009, 04:07 PM
You don't believe people can be in the middle?

Not really.

I have yet to meet someone that was smack in the middle... You either lean left or you lean right.

Now you could be Fiscally Conservative and Socially liberal...but that's not middle, that just a break in ideals directly affected by what suits you best.

JMSFan
01-22-2009, 04:07 PM
this is what elprez was trying to tell you! What he said had nothing to do with that either! You're the one who brought it up.

Wow! You're not doing yourself any justice....just let it go for your own good.


I never asked him what exactly was America's fault. I asked you.

JMSFan
01-22-2009, 04:08 PM
Nope...one or the other....and btw, America is perfect and can never be the blame for anything bad! :D :rolleyes:

In your own words (not el prez) what is America to blame for that has affected you personally?

HUM398
01-22-2009, 04:15 PM
Nope...one or the other....and btw, America is perfect and can never be the blame for anything bad! :D :rolleyes:

You are either liberal minded or Conservative minded.

Think of it as a spectrum.

On one end you have an absolute left winged nutt job....on the other a Radical Right winged crazy.... You fall somewhere in the spectrum leaning closer to one of those....

Now, theoretically its possible to be in the middle...but i would find that person incredibly dull.

pack75
01-22-2009, 04:20 PM
I never asked him what exactly was America's fault. I asked you.

Me and elprez are on the same page so who you asked really doesn't matter.

Just keep going though JMSFan....you're making my day with all the laughs I'm getting from ya! :D

Firebird
01-22-2009, 04:22 PM
Well you certainly fall into one of those categories......

You are either Liberal Minded or Conservative.....I suppose you could be an anarchist....

http://www.upf.edu/materials/fhuma/hm/8/images/bakunin.jpg

:)

JMSFan
01-22-2009, 04:36 PM
Me and elprez are on the same page so who you asked really doesn't matter.

Just keep going though JMSFan....you're making my day with all the laughs I'm getting from ya! :D


Ive been laughing at you from the very start. I knew you would never tell me the answer to anything I asked.

pack75
01-22-2009, 04:51 PM
Ive been laughing at you from the very start. I knew you would never tell me the answer to anything I asked.

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m93/bassgirl1970/Emoticons/digginghole.gif < JMSFan

RedRage00
01-22-2009, 04:53 PM
Not really.

I have yet to meet someone that was smack in the middle... You either lean left or you lean right.

Now you could be Fiscally Conservative and Socially liberal...but that's not middle, that just a break in ideals directly affected by what suits you best.

Please explain.

jrock210
01-22-2009, 05:02 PM
Wow.....there is always an excuse to argue with you guys.

RedRage00
01-22-2009, 05:03 PM
Wow.....there is always an excuse to argue with you guys.

And you barely realized this?

JMSFan
01-22-2009, 05:16 PM
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m93/bassgirl1970/Emoticons/digginghole.gif < JMSFan

Pack75

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s134/p-nut_015/realitycheck.gif

jrock210
01-22-2009, 05:37 PM
And you barely realized this?

Well pretty much I'm usually saying something completely stupid and something that nobody pays attention to and when I finally get serious another argument comes out of nowhere.

patient1019
01-22-2009, 06:02 PM
Not really.

I have yet to meet someone that was smack in the middle... You either lean left or you lean right.

Now you could be Fiscally Conservative and Socially liberal...but that's not middle, that just a break in ideals directly affected by what suits you best.

Libertarian!

BDB
01-22-2009, 06:20 PM
this is the worst arguement ever.

"something"

"no"

"something"

"i want his answer"

"agree with something"

"you lose"

"china needs us"

"uummmm, noooooo."

DragonWatcher
01-22-2009, 06:31 PM
Not really.

I have yet to meet someone that was smack in the middle... You either lean left or you lean right.

Now you could be Fiscally Conservative and Socially liberal...but that's not middle, that just a break in ideals directly affected by what suits you best.

Or in actuality a continuum between believing the government should stay out of legislating the market and your personal life. It's not about what suits you best but is a true philosophy towards government.

jrock210
01-22-2009, 06:37 PM
this is the worst arguement ever.

"something"

"no"

"something"

"i want his answer"

"agree with something"

"you lose"

"china needs us"

"uummmm, noooooo."

this.

HUM398
01-23-2009, 10:12 AM
Or in actuality a continuum between believing the government should stay out of legislating the market and your personal life. It's not about what suits you best but is a true philosophy towards government.


The average American picks what suits and benefits them.

DragonWatcher
01-23-2009, 11:04 AM
The average American picks what suits and benefits them.

I agree with you there on that one, I thought you were saying libertarians were somehow more greedy in nature than conservatives/liberals because they vote self interests and you can't have a philosophy of true libertarianism as some due, even when its not to their benefit.

ktCarl
01-23-2009, 12:40 PM
I haven't been able to catch a lot of news lately but did Obama say what or where he's going to send those 'prisoners' when gitmo closes?

15Adragon
01-23-2009, 12:58 PM
I haven't been able to catch a lot of news lately but did Obama say what or where he's going to send those 'prisoners' when gitmo closes?

Katy, Texas or some other highly republican area. :ninja: :eek:

smw358
01-24-2009, 03:35 AM
I haven't been able to catch a lot of news lately but did Obama say what or where he's going to send those 'prisoners' when gitmo closes?


No he didn't ......but I have an idea....send them to.......Israel! :D

DrEdward
01-24-2009, 07:00 AM
I haven't been able to catch a lot of news lately but did Obama say what or where he's going to send those 'prisoners' when gitmo closes?

Didn't Murtha say he would take them in his district? We could send them there? Or reactivate Alcatraz as a federal prison. That way, our beloved speaker of the house could watch over their well-being personally.

CCHS77
01-24-2009, 09:31 AM
Didn't Murtha say he would take them in his district? We could send them there? Or reactivate Alcatraz as a federal prison. That way, our beloved speaker of the house could watch over their well-being personally.

Dr. E

I love your location suggestion. But rather than spend addition funds on resurrecting the island prison, establish a half-way house within view of her house.

ktCarl
01-24-2009, 10:15 AM
here to ruffle more feathers. that drunk mexican picture above, i got it off this disgusting facist righty, who i only learned about because of this picture.

Hey! I like that picture!

BDB
01-24-2009, 12:02 PM
Hey! I like that picture!

as do i, i just didnt enjoy reading all the hate that filled the page around it.