SLC run game

[wampuscat]

Could be a factor in the game. Newton is a nice back, but he has not filled the shoes of Luna (yet). This is not to say he won't be a great runner over the course of his HS career. I believe Lufkin will also miss big #7 as well, but I believe they will have the more productive runners. I know SLC has great team speed, but if Turner can hit the corner he has a greater than zero chance of taking it to the house. Lufkin will definately have to worry about stopping the run to win the game, but I don't think they have to devote as much concern to it as they have in the two previous meetings. Any thoughts on this?

[BAMF cowboy]

anytime you commit too many in the secondary, with speed like tre's he'll make you pay

[dragons08]

anytime you commit too many in the secondary, with speed like tre's he'll make you pay
yes, he was a beast last game! they were trying to stop the pass, and tre would just have a HUGE run

[BAMF cowboy]

yes, he was a beast last game! they were trying to stop the pass, and tre would just have a HUGE run

he's also surprising powerful for a little guy, constantly he would be picking up tough yards, plowing through defenders

[Plano East Player]

yea he is a tough runner. slc will need a big game from him again becasue of the speed of lufkin's db's

[dragonsdaddy]

Could be a factor in the game. Newton is a nice back, but he has not filled the shoes of Luna (yet). This is not to say he won't be a great runner over the course of his HS career. I believe Lufkin will also miss big #7 as well, but I believe they will have the more productive runners. I know SLC has great team speed, but if Turner can hit the corner he has a greater than zero chance of taking it to the house. Lufkin will definately have to worry about stopping the run to win the game, but I don't think they have to devote as much concern to it as they have in the two previous meetings. Any thoughts on this?
speed is always an issue, but i wouldn't be surprised if plano's rb is faster than any we will have faced or will in the future as he was a 100 meter finalist last year at the state meet. he was unable to turn the corner all game. unless there is something to keep the olbs at home, i doubt they can be freq outrun to the corners. slc had to work hard at it but 220 yds rushing isn't shabby for a team with 350 yds passing, esp against a team with as strong a defense as plano.

[Plano East Player]

plano's running back is fast true but he is also scared of contact and would run out of bounds without even trying to break it, not many running backs like him are left in the playoffs. expect lufkins rb to be at least a little bit more physical.

[SLCDad]

Could be a factor in the game. Newton is a nice back, but he has not filled the shoes of Luna (yet). This is not to say he won't be a great runner over the course of his HS career. I believe Lufkin will also miss big #7 as well, but I believe they will have the more productive runners. I know SLC has great team speed, but if Turner can hit the corner he has a greater than zero chance of taking it to the house. Lufkin will definately have to worry about stopping the run to win the game, but I don't think they have to devote as much concern to it as they have in the two previous meetings. Any thoughts on this?You may be right. Newton will be great but he is just a Soph. He is more explosive than Luna however even now. More fun to watch. Better acceleration. More speed.

On the other hand, SLC's passing game is better than last year. They are a better total team this year. The weaknesses we saw in 2004 are gone this year.

[SLCDad]

he's also surprising powerful for a little guy, constantly he would be picking up tough yards, plowing through defendersHe is 6'1". Not exactly little.

[dragonfootballfan]

Could be a factor in the game. Newton is a nice back, but he has not filled the shoes of Luna (yet). This is not to say he won't be a great runner over the course of his HS career. I believe Lufkin will also miss big #7 as well, but I believe they will have the more productive runners. I know SLC has great team speed, but if Turner can hit the corner he has a greater than zero chance of taking it to the house. Lufkin will definately have to worry about stopping the run to win the game, but I don't think they have to devote as much concern to it as they have in the two previous meetings. Any thoughts on this?
That is funny because I remember a few years ago Carroll beating Lufkin with a sophomore runningback and then two years later that same runningback helped Carroll beat Lufkin a second time.

[Plano East Player]

yea they are a better team except for the offensive line, i think last years line was better

[BAMF cowboy]

That is funny because I remember a few years ago Carroll beating Lufkin with a sophomore runningback and then two years later that same runningback helped Carroll beat Lufkin a second time.

oooooooooooooh SNAP

[slcsportsfan]

You may be right. Newton will be great but he is just a Soph. He is more explosive than Luna however even now. More fun to watch. Better acceleration. More speed.

On the other hand, SLC's passing game is better than last year. They are a better total team this year. The weaknesses we saw in 2004 are gone this year.


Might want to tap the brakes there dad. I'll give you the better acceleration part. As I've posted in the past, Newton will be pretty good when it's all said and done. Remember that Luna ran a 4.38 at the NIKE combine at A&M. They are two different kinds of runners. Luna would forsake a couple of yards to try and run someone over, Tre will go ahead and make a move to get those two yards. Luna had much better hands and let's not forget he was a 1000 yard rusher all three years while leading the team in yards from scrimmage. As for Tre being more explosive, IMO I think you might want to wait a while on that as well. Lufkin, Ryan, Macarthur, Allen, Coppell, Grapevine, Ridge, SV, Monterrey, Irving, and Arlington might disagree with you on that point as well.

[LUFPAN]

Luna was the difference in last year's game. It wasn't just his running but his pass catching out of the backfield that really gave us fits. On top of that, he was an excellent blocker.

Tre will probally be the better of the two backs by the time he reaches his senior year. He's got good size and speed and will continue to get stronger. I suspect he will be at the top of a lot of recruiting boards in 2007. However, he's not yet as good as Luna was last year. But his future is brite :cool:

[nate]

I've now seen SLC play three times this season, and this past Saturday was Newton's best game of the 3. After the 1st two games I saw (one in district play, the other v. Allen) I really thought Tre' would not be able to do what SLC needs him to do to win against the best teams in the state. I said it here before - in those first games, he ran with very little power and/or vision and went down any time someone got even a hand on him.

Against Plano, I saw a different player (one that all the SLC fans told me was there all season). He ran very tough, used his blocks well and finished off runs. He is still not the receiver Luna was, but who cares when McElroy has 4 other guys every play to throw the ball to?

I am now a Newton believer. He's no Dmitri Nance or James Aston, but he's pretty darn good and crazy fast!

[SLCDad]

I am now a Newton believer. He's no Dmitri Nance or James Aston, but he's pretty darn good and crazy fast!Give him a couple of years to develop.

Having a running back with Newton's potential SLC may just switch from the Spread to the Power I. :D :D

[dragonsdaddy]

I've now seen SLC play three times this season, and this past Saturday was Newton's best game of the 3. After the 1st two games I saw (one in district play, the other v. Allen) I really thought Tre' would not be able to do what SLC needs him to do to win against the best teams in the state. I said it here before - in those first games, he ran with very little power and/or vision and went down any time someone got even a hand on him.

Against Plano, I saw a different player (one that all the SLC fans told me was there all season). He ran very tough, used his blocks well and finished off runs. He is still not the receiver Luna was, but who cares when McElroy has 4 other guys every play to throw the ball to?

I am now a Newton believer. He's no Dmitri Nance or James Aston, but he's pretty darn good and crazy fast!
as far as tre's hands go, he haSN'T DROPPED A BALL yet and the ball he caught sat was almost a miracle not to have it go airborne and end up another interception.

[nate]

Having a running back with Newton's potential SLC may just switch from the Spread to the Power I. :D :D

It would certainly make him more attractive to college coaches. He's going to face alot of questions about his running abilities/style from college coaches that don't run the same offense as SLC.

But that's alright. If he ends up at Tech with McElroy, I'll be very happy!

[SLCDad]

Might want to tap the brakes there dad. I'll give you the better acceleration part. As I've posted in the past, Newton will be pretty good when it's all said and done. Remember that Luna ran a 4.38 at the NIKE combine at A&M. They are two different kinds of runners. Luna would forsake a couple of yards to try and run someone over, Tre will go ahead and make a move to get those two yards. Luna had much better hands and let's not forget he was a 1000 yard rusher all three years while leading the team in yards from scrimmage. As for Tre being more explosive, IMO I think you might want to wait a while on that as well. Lufkin, Ryan, Macarthur, Allen, Coppell, Grapevine, Ridge, SV, Monterrey, Irving, and Arlington might disagree with you on that point as well.I'm a huge Newton fan. My jaw has dropped a couple of times watching him.

Newton has over 1100 yards so far. Considering he platooned the first couple of games, was injured for 2-3 games, and still has two games to play that yardage total is on par with Luna's best seasons.

[LUFPAN]

I'm a huge Newton fan. My jaw has dropped a couple of times watching him.

Newton has over 1100 yards so far. Considering he platooned the first couple of games, was injured for 2-3 games, and still has two games to play that yardage total is on par with Luna's best seasons.

At this point in time he only has 1 game left to play. Its still a little pre-mature to be figuring the yards he might get at the state finals.:cool:

[SLCDad]

At this point in time he only has 1 game left to play. Its still a little pre-mature to be figuring the yards he might get at the state finals.:cool:Since Luna played 16 games for 3 years just trying to normalize Newton's yards to get an apples to apples comparison.

[toonman]

You may be right. Newton will be great but he is just a Soph. He is more explosive than Luna however even now. More fun to watch. Better acceleration. More speed.

On the other hand, SLC's passing game is better than last year. They are a better total team this year. The weaknesses we saw in 2004 are gone this year.


Kicking?