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Favpack
01-18-2009, 09:49 PM
Happy MLK Day to you and your's. May all your dreams come true!

svhorns
01-18-2009, 09:50 PM
Happy MLK Day to you and your's. May all your dreams come true!

Happy MLK Day!

LP-79
01-18-2009, 10:56 PM
Happy MLK day to everybody! Now I am waiting on some redneck to get on here and say something about Nathan Bedford Forrest. Oh well ignorance never has an offseason:)

lonny23
01-18-2009, 11:33 PM
I also hope everybody enjoys the day. MLK was a great man and an example that should be followed more.

EagleDude73
01-18-2009, 11:44 PM
For this year, Happy Double Cho*ola*e M*lk Day. We get Monday & Tuesday. I am from the Lyons Ave. area of houston and am very proud of this week. I sincerely hope that Barack & Michelle will help turn us around.

LP-79
01-19-2009, 01:22 AM
For this year, Happy Double Cho*ola*e M*lk Day. We get Monday & Tuesday. I am from the Lyons Ave. area of houston and am very proud of this week. I sincerely hope that Barack & Michelle will help turn us around.

One thing about Barrack. He has 8 years to look at the wrong way to be president. I never got involved in the politacal threads but it will always be my opinion that if the fruit does not fall far from the tree, the Elder President Bush needs to go beat the crap out of milkman.

mad_fan
01-19-2009, 05:41 AM
Happy MLK Day to you and your's. May all your dreams come true!

Just another work day...
My dreams are suppose to start coming true tomorrow...;)

dragons08
01-19-2009, 05:47 AM
Just another work day...
My dreams are suppose to start coming true tomorrow...;)

I believe in change.....

...Instead of having a white man lead us to the gutter, a black man will.

KT2000
01-19-2009, 08:51 AM
I believe in change.....

...Instead of having a white man lead us to the gutter, a black man will.

I didn't vote for him, but for the sake of the country I hope he is successful. I put the country above any political disagreement.

I saw an interesting poll today that showed an overwhelming majority believe MLK's vision is "fulfilled" because Barack Obama will take the Oath of Office tomorrow.

I disagree. I believe Obama's election is a big step, but ultimately there are still many barriers to break down in the areas of race relations and equality.

Favpack
01-19-2009, 09:25 AM
I believe in change.....

...Instead of having a white man lead us to the gutter, a black man will.

You're 19 - you need to be more liberal dude. You only get a few years to be liberal - then you join the conservatives like the rest of us.

rocketgrl94
01-19-2009, 11:58 AM
Just another work day...
My dreams are suppose to start coming true tomorrow...;)

yep, it really sucks that we had to work today:mad:

Pinion
01-19-2009, 12:40 PM
Just another day for Pinion. I've never understood what all the fuss was about and still dont.
And I dont want to sound like I'm hating on MLK, because I'm not. I just dont see why we should have a lot of hoopla over one person. The U.S. has had many great men/women do a lot of great things and we dont make a big stink over them.

But to those of you that are into the whole MLK day thing, happy MLK day.

BDB
01-19-2009, 12:44 PM
Just another day for Pinion. I've never understood what all the fuss was about and still dont.
And I dont want to sound like I'm hating on MLK, because I'm not. I just dont see why we should have a lot of hoopla over one person. The U.S. has had many great men/women do a lot of great things and we dont make a big stink over them.

But to those of you that are into the whole MLK day thing, happy MLK day.


an ordinary man (holy man, at that) giving up his life for cival rights in a segregated south sticks to alot of minorities.


happy mlk day, yall.

SLC
01-19-2009, 01:01 PM
Happy MLK day everyone..

A few quotes by Martin Luther King...

"History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people."


"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."


"Man must evolve for all human conflict a method which rejects revenge, aggression and retaliation. The foundation of such a method is love."


Have a great day everyone.:)

Pinion
01-19-2009, 01:09 PM
an ordinary man (holy man, at that) giving up his life for cival rights in a segregated south sticks to alot of minorities.


happy mlk day, yall.

We're all ordinary men/women. It's our actions that make us extraordinary.

I guess maybe I could understand the fuss a little better if those that "celebrate" MLK so much were actually trying to continue his message. But most arent. If people were actually trying to continue his message and realize the "dream", we wouldn't have a lot of the racial issues that we have today. Just my opinion though.
I think most people like to cling to MLK things because it sounds good, but the practice of it something that they'd rather not do.

JMSFan
01-19-2009, 01:12 PM
We're all ordinary men/women. It's our actions that make us extraordinary.

I guess maybe I could understand the fuss a little better if those that "celebrate" MLK so much were actually trying to continue his message. But most arent. If people were actually trying to continue his message and realize the "dream", we wouldn't have a lot of the racial issues that we have today. Just my opinion though.
I think most people like to cling to MLK things because it sounds good, but the practice of it something that they'd rather not do.

Good post. :)

BDB
01-19-2009, 01:37 PM
We're all ordinary men/women. It's our actions that make us extraordinary.

I guess maybe I could understand the fuss a little better if those that "celebrate" MLK so much were actually trying to continue his message. But most arent. If people were actually trying to continue his message and realize the "dream", we wouldn't have a lot of the racial issues that we have today. Just my opinion though.
I think most people like to cling to MLK things because it sounds good, but the practice of it something that they'd rather not do.

idk about the rest of the state, i saying what i see in the valley (like most topics). and here, MLK day is celebrated by people who do practice racial mending and strive for higher standards of living for minorities (in the valley's case, hispanichs). most people who get the day off and don't fully appreciate or understand what the day is for usually don't even make reference as to why they have the day off.

personally, i know that, like the rest of history, there probably were racial activists that led a stronger fight then MLK (in a peaceful way) but like the rest of social history, we find a leader who is a strong figure and run with it. not to take away from MLK, he fought the fight and in the end won.

Pinion
01-19-2009, 01:48 PM
idk about the rest of the state, i saying what i see in the valley (like most topics). and here, MLK day is celebrated by people who do practice racial mending and strive for higher standards of living for minorities (in the valley's case, hispanichs). most people who get the day off and don't fully appreciate or understand what the day is for usually don't even make reference as to why they have the day off.

personally, i know that, like the rest of history, there probably were racial activists that led a stronger fight then MLK (in a peaceful way) but like the rest of social history, we find a leader who is a strong figure and run with it. not to take away from MLK, he fought the fight and in the end won.

I just see things a little differently I guess. I generally dont consider those with different skin than myself to be a minority.

Ima just leave it at that because from here, it becomes a very sensative issue and most people cant handle the truth of racial problems. Also, it would (IMO) be hijacking the thread. It would cause and arguement. and blah blah blah. lol.
Maybe another time.

rocketgrl94
01-19-2009, 01:51 PM
I just see things a little differently I guess. I generally dont consider those with different skin than myself to be a minority.

Ima just leave it at that because from here, it becomes a very sensative issue and most people cant handle the truth of racial problems. Also, it would (IMO) be hijacking the thread. It would cause and arguement. and blah blah blah. lol.
Maybe another time.

not really...this is about racial problems...lets hear it!:D

BDB
01-19-2009, 01:59 PM
not really...this is about racial problems...lets hear it!:D

stfu, noob.

all that's gonna happen is someone else get butt-hurt, bring up rednekin (sp?) and then the thread falls apart. listen to pinion on this one.

rocketgrl94
01-19-2009, 02:00 PM
stfu, noob.

all that's gonna happen is someone else get butt-hurt, bring up rednekin (sp?) and then the thread falls apart. listen to pinion on this one.

watch your damn mouth you are speaking to a woman... bish!!!!

SLC
01-19-2009, 02:03 PM
not really...this is about racial problems...lets hear it!:D


This is you...

http://www.hikingideas.com/getimage.aspx?ID=36948


Dont be that person.

rocketgrl94
01-19-2009, 02:06 PM
This is you...

http://www.hikingideas.com/getimage.aspx?ID=36948


Dont be that person.

im not i didnt start sh*t!
damn ya'll cant u see the smilie at the end!!!!!

Pinion
01-19-2009, 02:13 PM
not really...this is about racial problems...lets hear it!:D

I'll keep it simple. Because I really dont want to get a bunch of hoopla started on this.

But I think most people that are "minorities" do more to keep themselves down than anyone else. And all the while will blame it on White folks. It's easy to blame.

If someone is poor and uneducated. That's not my fault. That's their own damn fault. If someone doesnt have a "voice" it's because their mouth is closed.
This mess about blaming white folks is crap. It's a cop out and I dont buy it. Not for one second.
The reason I dont buy it is because we have rich and powerful people in this country of every color and nationality.

When people decided they are going to be more, they will be more. That's just fact.
Minorities are given (above and beyond) every possible chance to be "somebody". Special funds. tax breaks. hiring quotas. etc... If all thats laid out there and you still cant do it, it's because you dont want to do it.

When you look at the 9th ward in NewOrleans. Most of those people are/were 3rd and 4th generation welfare cases. That's all know. They're taught to be "nothing" and expect handouts. And sadly enough, it's the very politicians they'll swear by that's held them there for so long.

Minorities have accepted the label "minority". Why accept that? Free your mind and move on.

Again, I see myself as a minority. Not based on my skin color, but because I really want things to change for the better. Not just change. But change for the better.


ok. I'm starting to make incomplete thoughts here. I'm trying to work and do this. And this is going to turn into a book, and it doesnt need to. maybe later. maybe.

rocketgrl94
01-19-2009, 02:23 PM
I'll keep it simple. Because I really dont want to get a bunch of hoopla started on this.

But I think most people that are "minorities" do more to keep themselves down than anyone else. And all the while will blame it on White folks. It's easy to blame.

If someone is poor and uneducated. That's not my fault. That's their own damn fault. If someone doesnt have a "voice" it's because their mouth is closed.
This mess about blaming white folks is crap. It's a cop out and I dont buy it. Not for one second.
The reason I dont buy it is because we have rich and powerful people in this country of every color and nationality.

When people decided they are going to be more, they will be more. That's just fact.
Minorities are given (above and beyond) every possible chance to be "somebody". Special funds. tax breaks. hiring quotas. etc... If all thats laid out there and you still cant do it, it's because you dont want to do it.

When you look at the 9th ward in NewOrleans. Most of those people are/were 3rd and 4th generation welfare cases. That's all know. They're taught to be "nothing" and expect handouts. And sadly enough, it's the very politicians they'll swear by that's held them there for so long.

Minorities have accepted the label "minority". Why accept that? Free your mind and move on.

Again, I see myself as a minority. Not based on my skin color, but because I really want things to change for the better. Not just change. But change for the better.


ok. I'm starting to make incomplete thoughts here. I'm trying to work and do this. And this is going to turn into a book, and it doesnt need to. maybe later. maybe.

well i think it depends on where you live here in San Antonio its hard for a black man or maybe even a white person to move up because this city is mostly hispanic ridden, its like you have to know somebody to move up friends bringin' friends, bringin' sisters, aunts and uncles i have seen alot of stuff thats really not fair first hand mostly it goes by who you know not by what u know, i know thats everywhere but im just sayin'

Favpack
01-19-2009, 02:26 PM
Pinion's new job:

chief speech writer for Pres. Obama. :D

Two points:

1) I think this country needs a little more compassion.

2) President Obama will not change the country. He will not make lazy people hard workers, he will not make stupid people smart, he will not make greedy people compassionate.

But, maybe he can move a few things forward - and let's hope all the supreme court folks stay alive 4 more years.

Pinion
01-19-2009, 02:44 PM
Pinion's new job:

chief speech writer for Pres. Obama. :D

Two points:

1) I think this country needs a little more compassion.

2) President Obama will not change the country. He will not make lazy people hard workers, he will not make stupid people smart, he will not make greedy people compassionate.

But, maybe he can move a few things forward - and let's hope all the supreme court folks stay alive 4 more years.


I signed up for some stuff with the Obama transition team. They send me some emails every few days. They asked for my input on certain topics, I email them Pinions view of whatever the topic happens to be. Oddly enough, I get reply emails from staff members sometimes. They'll ask for more info on stuff or for further explainations. It's kinda funny. I told the guy right up front that I didnt vote for B_O and dont agree with with most of his policies. His response to that was "you're exactly whom we want to hear from". They also asked me to submit my resume' for consideration to presidential appointed postions. I havent heard anything back on that yet. lol. I'm pretty sure the White House has a lawn mower mechanic already.

SLC
01-19-2009, 02:48 PM
I signed up for some stuff with the Obama transition team. They send me some emails every few days. They asked for my input on certain topics, I email them Pinions view of whatever the topic happens to be. Oddly enough, I get reply emails from staff members sometimes. They'll ask for more info on stuff or for further explainations. It's kinda funny. I told the guy right up front that I didnt vote for B_O and dont agree with with most of his policies. His response to that was "you're exactly whom we want to hear from". They also asked me to submit my resume' for consideration to presidential appointed postions. I havent heard anything back on that yet. lol. I'm pretty sure the White House has a lawn mower mechanic already.


You could be his "Joe the plumber".

Only its "Pinion the technician".

:cool:

Pinion
01-19-2009, 03:06 PM
You could be his "Joe the plumber".

Only its "Pinion the technician".

:cool:

:notworthy
I'll take it. lol.

ATownTexan
01-19-2009, 03:34 PM
I'll keep it simple. Because I really dont want to get a bunch of hoopla started on this.

But I think most people that are "minorities" do more to keep themselves down than anyone else. And all the while will blame it on White folks. It's easy to blame.

If someone is poor and uneducated. That's not my fault. That's their own damn fault. If someone doesnt have a "voice" it's because their mouth is closed.
This mess about blaming white folks is crap. It's a cop out and I dont buy it. Not for one second.
The reason I dont buy it is because we have rich and powerful people in this country of every color and nationality.

When people decided they are going to be more, they will be more. That's just fact.
Minorities are given (above and beyond) every possible chance to be "somebody". Special funds. tax breaks. hiring quotas. etc... If all thats laid out there and you still cant do it, it's because you dont want to do it.

When you look at the 9th ward in NewOrleans. Most of those people are/were 3rd and 4th generation welfare cases. That's all know. They're taught to be "nothing" and expect handouts. And sadly enough, it's the very politicians they'll swear by that's held them there for so long.

Minorities have accepted the label "minority". Why accept that? Free your mind and move on.

Again, I see myself as a minority. Not based on my skin color, but because I really want things to change for the better. Not just change. But change for the better.


ok. I'm starting to make incomplete thoughts here. I'm trying to work and do this. And this is going to turn into a book, and it doesnt need to. maybe later. maybe.

Well this is your opinion which you are certainly entitle to. I will agree that there are some that play the 'race card' so to speak way too often. However please don't think that all 'minorities' who may be struggling personally or professionally do so out of 'choice'. I think it's more of a result of a class/economic thing and unfortunately a lot of minorities tend to be on the lower end of the scale. I agree that there are some very successful people of all nationalities in this country. However I think 'some' are provided more opportunities than other due to the environment they were brought up and the relationships that they have had the opportunity to form.

If you were raised in the 9th ward you probably don't have many personal relationships with Fortune 500 Presidents, CEO's etc. However if you were raised in a more 'affluent' part of New Orleans and your Father or neighbor's Father sits on the LSU Board of Regents it's not that difficult to all of a sudden be presented an 'opportunity' to become the Director of Sales of Dad's Golf Buddy's company. So the young man in the 9th Ward may want to be just as successful and may eventually become just as successful but he will have a more difficult path to take and it may take longer for him to achieve that status.

rocketgrl94
01-19-2009, 03:36 PM
Well this is your opinion which you are certainly entitle to. I will agree that there are some that play the 'race card' so to speak way too often. However please don't think that all 'minorities' who may be struggling personally or professionally do so out of 'choice'. I think it's more of a result of a class/economic thing and unfortunately a lot of minorities tend to be on the lower end of the scale. I agree that there are some very successful people of all nationalities in this country. However I think 'some' are provided more opportunities than other due to the environment they were brought up and the relationships that they have had the opportunity to form.

If you were raised in the 9th ward you probably don't have many personal relationships with Fortune 500 Presidents, CEO's etc. However if you were raised in a more 'affluent' part of New Orleans and your Father or neighbor's Father sits on the LSU Board of Regents it's not that difficult to all of a sudden be presented an 'opportunity' to become the Director of Sales of Dad's Golf Buddy's company. So the young man in the 9th Ward may want to be just as successful and may eventually become just as successful but he will have a more difficult path to take and it may take longer for him to achieve that status.

i agree

dragonpants
01-19-2009, 03:54 PM
Happy MLK Day to you and your's. May all your dreams come true!

Ok I am going to ask the question.
I think MLK was a great man but does he deserve a holiday?

What did he actually accomplish. He gave great speeches but is that justification for a holiday?

dada
01-19-2009, 04:09 PM
Ok I am going to ask the question.
I think MLK was a great man but does he deserve a holiday?

What did he actually accomplish. He gave great speeches but is that justification for a holiday?

time to get some popcorn

svhorns
01-19-2009, 04:12 PM
Ok I am going to ask the question.
I think MLK was a great man but does he deserve a holiday?

What did he actually accomplish. He gave great speeches but is that justification for a holiday?

Christopher Columbus has his own day... for what... colonizing land that people had already colonized... he was also a child molester... but back in the time of Columbus that wasn't as big of a deal as it is today...

SLC
01-19-2009, 04:12 PM
Ok I am going to ask the question.
I think MLK was a great man but does he deserve a holiday?

What did he actually accomplish. He gave great speeches but is that justification for a holiday?


I think its less about "him" having the holiday..rather giving all those who believe in the fight he fought and the message he gave, a chance to honor him...Its less about his birth and death and more about the message of hope he gave in between those dates.. He spoke of not only cival rights and the unquestioned rights of minorities, but his message was also about doing for others and strengthening communities...getting out and helping those less forunate... Having this day as a national holiday allows for people to get out and help others and speak the message of hope...not just to folks with different skin colors..But to folks with all different issues.. maybe just to help them with their laundry...or to take them to grocery stores.. or to read the bible to those who cant see as well, or to a blind person.. Its far more than just saying thanks for an important icon in American history..its about doing for those others.. just as he did.

dada
01-19-2009, 04:14 PM
I think its less about "him" having the holiday..rather giving all those who believe in the fight he fought and the message he gave, a chance to honor him...Its less about his birth and death and more about the message of hope he gave in between those dates.. He spoke of not only cival rights and the unquestioned rights of minorities, but his message was also about doing for others and strengthening communities...getting out and helping those less forunate... Having this day as a national holiday allows for people to get out and help others and speak the message of hope...not just to folks with different skin colors..But to folks with all different issues.. maybe just to help them with their laundry...or to take them to grocery stores.. or to read the bible to those who cant se as well, or to a blind person.. Its far more than just saying thanks for an important icon in American history..its about doing for those others.. just as he did.

Bingo. Well said.

dragonpants
01-19-2009, 04:24 PM
well i think it depends on where you live here in San Antonio its hard for a black man or maybe even a white person to move up because this city is mostly hispanic ridden, its like you have to know somebody to move up friends bringin' friends, bringin' sisters, aunts and uncles i have seen alot of stuff thats really not fair first hand mostly it goes by who you know not by what u know, i know thats everywhere but im just sayin'

Move :D

dragonpants
01-19-2009, 04:28 PM
Christopher Columbus has his own day... for what... colonizing land that people had already colonized... he was also a child molester... but back in the time of Columbus that wasn't as big of a deal as it is today...

OK, Columbus was a child molester and MLK cheated on wife with white women and that is documented by those that were close to him and had ties to the communist party. No one is squeaky clean.

SLC
01-19-2009, 04:33 PM
OK, Columbus was a child molester and MLK cheated on wife with white women and that is documented by those that were close to him and had ties to the communist party. No one is squeaky clean.



I've always wanted to cheat with a white woman.. But my Mexican girl is just to good...:)






And mean..:D

ATownTexan
01-19-2009, 05:10 PM
Well ... obviously it's a pretty big deal here in Atlanta and I usually take the day off of work to go and volunteer at one or two of the many different projects going on. I personally think he was an incredible man looking back at some of the things he said and did at such a young age. He put his life on the line every day to try to make the World a better place when a lot of people resisted such thinking. He had to courage to fight for those who were scared to and 'chose' to be the voice for people who were not treated as equal citizens of this country. He did this in a non-violent manner during VERY VIOLENT times. I'm a bit bias as I've had the pleasure to speak to a few individuals that worked directly with the man (one was staying in the room next to him when he was killed in Memphis). The man knew he was going to die yet selflessly continued to fight for justice and equality everyday. If you haven't had the chance to visit his memorial in Memphis I strongly suggest it. It is a very moving and emotional experience.

JMSFan
01-20-2009, 02:00 AM
Move :D

this.

Miss Kitty
01-20-2009, 07:45 AM
I think its less about "him" having the holiday..rather giving all those who believe in the fight he fought and the message he gave, a chance to honor him...Its less about his birth and death and more about the message of hope he gave in between those dates.. He spoke of not only cival rights and the unquestioned rights of minorities, but his message was also about doing for others and strengthening communities...getting out and helping those less forunate... Having this day as a national holiday allows for people to get out and help others and speak the message of hope...not just to folks with different skin colors..But to folks with all different issues.. maybe just to help them with their laundry...or to take them to grocery stores.. or to read the bible to those who cant see as well, or to a blind person.. Its far more than just saying thanks for an important icon in American history..its about doing for those others.. just as he did.

And what a shame that we had to put aside a day to do something that should be done everyday anyway.

SLC
01-20-2009, 08:41 AM
And what a shame that we had to put aside a day to do something that should be done everyday anyway.


Agreed.. And the thing is, we could say that about many of our "holidays"... But such is the way of our society..We honor by setting aside days for a select few that have touched us in many different ways, truth be told there are many who have greatly effected who we are and how we live..and we dont celebrate them in the same way, at least not with a national holiday.. Though I'm not sure we dont also see their accomplishments in the same light that we see some of the others..I do..it doesnt take a holiday for me to see what Dr. King accomplished...just as it doesn't take a holiday to celebrate the life and accomplishments of William Penn...or Harriet Tubman...or Rosa Parks..or Susan B. Anthony...or Douglas MacArthur..or Elizabeth Cady Stanton and all those greatly effected our history and the inherent path our country would take..But for sure it doesnt bother me that we do have a select few that are honored with such a day..I will celebrate the lives and teachings of all the great people who have effected my life..including the unfamous..such as my beautiful grandmother..who without her I wouldnt be who I am and where I am today..She didnt effect more than about 20 peoples life in the 74 years she was alive, but I promise you that she is the most important person that ever effected my life.

All we can do is try and continue the teachings of those before us..celebrated or not..in whatever manner we choose.. The Martin Luther King holiday will for me be a day that I choose to remember to be thankful for what he has done for my children and my wife and my nephew..because they are all minorities..but you know what..I will also be thankful for him because he also made things better for me as well..that was the beauty of such a wonderful man..he helped make things better for ALL people...and I will respect that beauty everyday of my life, not just on that day.

dragonpants
01-20-2009, 11:48 AM
Well ... obviously it's a pretty big deal here in Atlanta and I usually take the day off of work to go and volunteer at one or two of the many different projects going on. I personally think he was an incredible man looking back at some of the things he said and did at such a young age. He put his life on the line every day to try to make the World a better place when a lot of people resisted such thinking. He had to courage to fight for those who were scared to and 'chose' to be the voice for people who were not treated as equal citizens of this country. He did this in a non-violent manner during VERY VIOLENT times. I'm a bit bias as I've had the pleasure to speak to a few individuals that worked directly with the man (one was staying in the room next to him when he was killed in Memphis). The man knew he was going to die yet selflessly continued to fight for justice and equality everyday. If you haven't had the chance to visit his memorial in Memphis I strongly suggest it. It is a very moving and emotional experience.

I ask again, what did he do?????????????????????????????????

BDB
01-20-2009, 12:44 PM
I ask again, what did he do?????????????????????????????????

spoke dynamically at the million man march and won the respect of officials in washington?

SLC
01-20-2009, 01:01 PM
I ask again, what did he do?????????????????????????????????


Pants...I'm really stunned at this point...I honestly dont know whether to laugh or cry at the question..

Quite simply I will just say the one word that comes to mind when I think of what Dr. King did..

Hope.

He brought hope to not only the black communities, but hope to an entire nation.


There is much more that he did...but that word..that one word, fully describes what he was about and moreover what he did.

pack75
01-20-2009, 01:04 PM
Just another day for Pinion. I've never understood what all the fuss was about and still dont.
And I dont want to sound like I'm hating on MLK, because I'm not. I just dont see why we should have a lot of hoopla over one person. The U.S. has had many great men/women do a lot of great things and we dont make a big stink over them.

But to those of you that are into the whole MLK day thing, happy MLK day.

Pretty disappointing statement here. ^

I tried to give you the benefit of a doubt Pinion.

pack75
01-20-2009, 01:06 PM
I didn't vote for him, but for the sake of the country I hope he is successful. I put the country above any political disagreement.

I saw an interesting poll today that showed an overwhelming majority believe MLK's vision is "fulfilled" because Barack Obama will take the Oath of Office tomorrow.

I disagree. I believe Obama's election is a big step, but ultimately there are still many barriers to break down in the areas of race relations and equality.

This ^

dragonpants
01-20-2009, 01:19 PM
Pants...I'm really stunned at this point...I honestly dont know whether to laugh or cry at the question..

Quite simply I will just say the one word that comes to mind when I think of what Dr. King did..

Hope.

He brought hope to not only the black communities, but hope to an entire nation.


There is much more that he did...but that word..that one word, fully describes what he was about and moreover what he did.

I agree but does that mean he gets a holiday. Lou Holtz is a pretty motivational guy but I do not see the second Monday in June being national Lou Holtz day.
Isn't Rosa Parks more deserving?

BDB
01-20-2009, 01:21 PM
I agree but does that mean he gets a holiday. Lou Holtz is a pretty motivational guy but I do not see the second Monday in June being national Lou Holtz day.
Isn't Rosa Parks more deserving?

you need to stfu. incase you can't, you can always gtfo.

Pinion
01-20-2009, 01:25 PM
Pretty disappointing statement here. ^

I tried to give you the benefit of a doubt Pinion.

The benefit of the doubt about what?

Because I dont get why we make a big stink over one guy and not another?

I agree that he did a lot of great things. I think much of what his dream for this nation has been lost over the years though. That's unfortunate. I just dont see what makes him any more deserving than, say.. uh. How about Lincoln. Do we get a national holiday for Lincoln? Washington? FRD? These guys were presidents. Men that did great things for this country. MLK was a man that did great things for this country.
I just dont understand all the praise for one and not for another. Also, when most of what MLK said and taught has been pushed to the wayside, he must not have been that important to the very people he was leading.

dragonpants
01-20-2009, 01:27 PM
you need to stfu. incase you can't, you can always gtfo.

I do not know what that crap means.

BDB
01-20-2009, 01:28 PM
I do not know what that crap means.

diaf,
lonny

Pinion
01-20-2009, 01:28 PM
I do not know what that crap means.

it means shut the f:Censor: up and get the f:Censor: out. lol.

rocketgrl94
01-20-2009, 01:29 PM
I do not know what that crap means.

here's a nice way to say it shut the :Censor: up and Get the :Censor:out

BDB
01-20-2009, 01:29 PM
it means shut the f:Censor: up and get the f:Censor: out. lol.

LAWLZ!

kthnxbai

rocketgrl94
01-20-2009, 01:29 PM
it means shut the f:Censor: up and get the f:Censor: out. lol.

damn beat me to it:mad:

BDB
01-20-2009, 01:30 PM
damn beat me to it:mad:

stfu noob

rocketgrl94
01-20-2009, 01:32 PM
stfu noob

ustfu bish!

dragonpants
01-20-2009, 01:34 PM
stfu noob

I am not leaving with all the warmth and love I am feeling.

I guess you guys have given up on hope already!

No surprise, it did not take long.

The dream is dead, can we cancel the stupidest holiday ever now?????

It did not work.

BDB
01-20-2009, 01:36 PM
I am not leaving with all the warmth and love I am feeling.

I guess you guys have given up on hope already!

No surprise, it did not take long.

The dream is dead, can we cancel the stupidest holiday ever now?????

It did not work.

it's cuz you're from southlake...

BDB
01-20-2009, 01:37 PM
ustfu bish!

go EABOD! NAOOO!:mad::Censor:

dragonpants
01-20-2009, 01:37 PM
it's cuz you're from southlake...

Proudly sir.

dada
01-20-2009, 01:38 PM
I am not leaving with all the warmth and love I am feeling.

I guess you guys have given up on hope already!

No surprise, it did not take long.

The dream is dead, can we cancel the stupidest holiday ever now?????

It did not work.

Speechless....wow.

BDB
01-20-2009, 01:38 PM
Proudly sir.

gimme money...NOW!

JMSFan
01-20-2009, 01:38 PM
I am not leaving with all the warmth and love I am feeling.

I guess you guys have given up on hope already!

No surprise, it did not take long.

The dream is dead, can we cancel the stupidest holiday ever now?????

It did not work.

It never does last long. Change and Hope are just fads.

ATownTexan
01-20-2009, 01:38 PM
I ask again, what did he do?????????????????????????????????

Well .... u seem pretty internet savy so a quick search should provide you many examples of how his workings made this world a better place. Just a few examples:

- went to college at age 15 (Morehouse)
- founded the SCLC
- Organized the Montgomery Bus Boycott which basically ended segregation on Montgomery Public Transportation (Browder v Gayle).
- his working resulted in the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965
- helped desegregate downtown Birmingham, AL
- Received the Nobel Peace Prize in 1964
- wrote numerous books/speeches that inspired people of all races, colors, creeds.


He did all of this and a lot more while his house got bombed, received numerous death threats against him and his family, was jailed numerous times (unjustly), stabbed, tracked by the FBI, had bricks thrown at him while trying to lead a NON-VIOLENT protest, etc. Other than that ... nothing special. :rolleyes:

BDB
01-20-2009, 01:40 PM
Well .... u seem pretty internet savy so a quick search should provide you many examples of how his workings made this world a better place. Just a few examples:

- went to college at age 15 (Morehouse)
- founded the SCLC
- Organized the Montgomery Bus Boycott which basically ended segregation on Montgomery Public Transportation (Browder v Gayle).
- his working resulted in the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965
- helped desegregate downtown Birmingham, AL
- Received the Nobel Peace Prize in 1964
- wrote numerous books/speeches that inspired people of all races, colors, creeds.


He did all of this and a lot more while his house got bombed, received numerous death threats against him and his family, was jailed numerous times (unjustly), stabbed, tracked by the FBI, had bricks thrown at him while trying to lead a NON-VIOLENT protest, etc. Other than that ... nothing special. :rolleyes:

are we taking him serious?

SLC
01-20-2009, 01:41 PM
I agree but does that mean he gets a holiday. Lou Holtz is a pretty motivational guy but I do not see the second Monday in June being national Lou Holtz day.
Isn't Rosa Parks more deserving?


I guess if Lou Holtz would have gotten all these, beyond his tireless work for cival rights and giving the usual motivational speeches then maybe..



From 1957 to 1968, Dr. King received several hundred awards for his leadership in the Civil Rights Movement. Among them were:

* Selected one of the most outstanding personalities of the year by Time, 1957


* Listed in Who's Who in America, 1957


* The Spingarn Medal from NAACP, 1957


* The Russwurm Award from the National Newspaper Publishers, 1957


* The Second Annual Achievement -- The Guardian Association of the Police Department of New York, 1958


* Link Magazine of New Dehli, India, listed Dr. King as one of the sixteen world leaders who had contributed most to the advancement of freedom during 1959


* Named Man of the Year by Time, 1963


* Named American of the Decade by Laundry, Dry Cleaning, and Die Workers International Union, 1963


* The John Dewey Award, from the United Federation of Teachers, 1964


* The John F. Kennedy Award, from the Catholic Interracial Council of Chicago, 1964


* The Nobel Peace Prize in 1964. At age 35, Dr. King was the youngest man, the second American, and the third black man awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.


* The Marcus Garvey Prize for Human Rights, presented by the Jamaican Government. (Posthumously) 1968


* The Rosa L. Parks Award, presented by the Southern Christian Leadership Conference. (Posthumously) 1968



Posthumously, Dr. King was awarded the Grammy Award for Best Spoken Recording for his speech, "Why I oppose the war in Vietnam" in 1970 and the Presidential Medal of Freedom by Jimmy Carter on July 11, 1977. These awards and citations among numerous others, are in the Archives of the Martin Luther King, Center for Nonviolent Social Change, Inc. in Atlanta, Georgia.

JMSFan
01-20-2009, 01:42 PM
Well .... u seem pretty internet savy so a quick search should provide you many examples of how his workings made this world a better place. Just a few examples:

- went to college at age 15 (Morehouse)
- founded the SCLC
- Organized the Montgomery Bus Boycott which basically ended segregation on Montgomery Public Transportation (Browder v Gayle).
- his working resulted in the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965
- helped desegregate downtown Birmingham, AL
- Received the Nobel Peace Prize in 1964
- wrote numerous books/speeches that inspired people of all races, colors, creeds.


He did all of this and a lot more while his house got bombed, received numerous death threats against him and his family, was jailed numerous times (unjustly), stabbed, tracked by the FBI, had bricks thrown at him while trying to lead a NON-VIOLENT protest, etc. Other than that ... nothing special. :rolleyes:

Anyone can go to jail a bunch of times, or have a brick thrown at them. ;)

dragonpants
01-20-2009, 01:42 PM
gimme money...NOW!

I do not have any, the government has it.

I am one of those people works hard and sacrifices other things in my life to live in a safe community where my children can get an excellent education. Most of the folks in Southlake are the same way. They are also some of the nicest people you would ever want to meet, hell we even took in Pinion. :D

Firebird
01-20-2009, 01:42 PM
The benefit of the doubt about what?

Because I dont get why we make a big stink over one guy and not another?

I agree that he did a lot of great things. I think much of what his dream for this nation has been lost over the years though. That's unfortunate. I just dont see what makes him any more deserving than, say.. uh. How about Lincoln. Do we get a national holiday for Lincoln? Washington? FRD? These guys were presidents. Men that did great things for this country. MLK was a man that did great things for this country.
I just dont understand all the praise for one and not for another. Also, when most of what MLK said and taught has been pushed to the wayside, he must not have been that important to the very people he was leading.

Yes. I know not this FRD of which you speak. :)http://score.rims.k12.ca.us/activity/presidentsday/

JMSFan
01-20-2009, 01:42 PM
are we taking him serious?

I never take anything serious .

ATownTexan
01-20-2009, 01:43 PM
are we taking him serious?

Not after this:

I am not leaving with all the warmth and love I am feeling.

I guess you guys have given up on hope already!

No surprise, it did not take long.

The dream is dead, can we cancel the stupidest holiday ever now?????

It did not work.

BDB
01-20-2009, 01:44 PM
I never take anything serious .

lies. ann coutler.

BDB
01-20-2009, 01:44 PM
Not after this:

i think it went even before that.

dragonpants
01-20-2009, 01:45 PM
lies. ann coutler.

Ann Coulter is an idiot.

BDB
01-20-2009, 01:49 PM
Ann Coulter is an idiot.

stfu noob. you lost credit after MLK bashing.

JMSFan
01-20-2009, 01:51 PM
lies. ann coutler.

But thats because shes perfect. :rolleyes:

" If I were a Jew,we could be best friends forever"

Perfected: The Ann Coulter Song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ye_2a7Lrl80

dragonpants
01-20-2009, 01:53 PM
stfu noob. you lost credit after MLK bashing.

I did not bash him. I said he was a great person, so if that is bashing then I guess my education was really screwed up. I just do not think he is deserving of a national holiday.
I really like myself also and I am not worthy of a holiday either and I give a mean speech and never cheated on either of my wives.

SLC
01-20-2009, 01:54 PM
But thats because shes really a man.



This.

JMSFan
01-20-2009, 01:55 PM
This.


LOL :notworthy

rocketgrl94
01-20-2009, 01:55 PM
stfu noob. you lost credit after MLK bashing.

WTF are U talkin' about....MLK bashing? i didnt bash MLK!!!
we were talkin racial issues that had nothing to do with MLK and it didnt turn into anything:rolleyes:

SLC
01-20-2009, 01:56 PM
I did not bash him. I said he was a great person, so if that is bashing then I guess my education was really screwed up. I just do not think he is deserving of a national holiday.
I really like myself also and I am not worthy of a holiday either and I give a mean speech and never cheated on either of my wives.


I think its safe to say that there are skeletons in the closet of all that are honored with a holiday.


And that includes santa.

dada
01-20-2009, 01:57 PM
WTF are U talkin' about....MLK bashing? i didnt bash MLK!!!
we were talkin racial issues that had nothing to do with MLK and it didnt turn into anything:rolleyes:

huh?

JMSFan
01-20-2009, 01:57 PM
I think its safe to say that there are skeletons in the closet of all that are honored with a holiday.


And that includes santa.

this.
(but not Santa)

SLC
01-20-2009, 01:57 PM
WTF are U talkin' about....MLK bashing? i didnt bash MLK!!!
we were talkin racial issues that had nothing to do with MLK and it didnt turn into anything:rolleyes:


Are you stupid or something?

Prez wasn't talking to you...

rocketgrl94
01-20-2009, 01:58 PM
huh?

HUH? i dont know WTH prez is talkin' about?

JMSFan
01-20-2009, 01:58 PM
huh?

:confused:

SLC
01-20-2009, 01:59 PM
this.
(but not Santa)



Oh no...santa is a dirty ole man.

SLC
01-20-2009, 01:59 PM
HUH? i dont know WTH prez is talkin' about?



Re-read and re-visit.

rocketgrl94
01-20-2009, 02:02 PM
Are you stupid or something?

Prez wasn't talking to you...

OHHHHH damn!!!!!:o he said stfu noob earlier and the 2nd time i didnt see who he responded to i thought it was me!
Watch the STUPID dude it was a mistake :mad:

dragonpants
01-20-2009, 02:03 PM
Oh no...santa is a dirty ole man.

Santa has little people fetish. :D

JMSFan
01-20-2009, 02:03 PM
Oh no...santa is a dirty ole man.

So, thats what the whole "Sit in my lap, and tell me what you want for Christmas" is all about? I just always thought he had a Subway sandwich in his pants pocket.

dragonpants
01-20-2009, 02:04 PM
So, thats what the whole "Sit in my lap, and tell me what you want for Christmas" is all about? I just always thought he had a Subway sandwich in his pants pocket.

He likes to wear the elves as c..k puppets.

SLC
01-20-2009, 02:05 PM
Santa has little people fetish. :D

Yes...and...

So, thats what the whole "Sit in my lap, and tell me what you want for Christmas" is all about? I just always thought he had a Subway sandwich in his pants pocket.


And there you have it.. St. Nick is pedo.

SLC
01-20-2009, 02:09 PM
OHHHHH damn!!!!!:o he said stfu noob earlier and the 2nd time i didnt see who he responded to i thought it was me!
Watch the STUPID dude it was a mistake :mad:



Sorry sweetie..

But just for the record..I didnt say you were stupid..I asked if you were stupid.;)

:D

ATownTexan
01-20-2009, 02:11 PM
I did not bash him. I said he was a great person, so if that is bashing then I guess my education was really screwed up. I just do not think he is deserving of a national holiday.
I really like myself also and I am not worthy of a holiday either and I give a mean speech and never cheated on either of my wives.

You may not have 'bashed' him but your whole method of stating your opinion, which you are entitled to, was a little out of line in MY opinion. You may not think he is deserving of a National Holiday but to ask what has he done is a little ridiculous. Then to compare him to Lou Holtz ... which I HOPE was a bad attempt at humor and furthermore to insinuate that perhaps he was awarded a National Holiday because he's 'well-liked' is why it's even harder to take your comments seriously.

rocketgrl94
01-20-2009, 02:14 PM
Sorry sweetie..

But just for the record..I didnt say you were stupid..I asked if you were stupid.;)

:D

i said watch the "stupid"......stupid is as stupid does..sweetie;):D

BDB
01-20-2009, 02:15 PM
OHHHHH damn!!!!!:o he said stfu noob earlier and the 2nd time i didnt see who he responded to i thought it was me!
Watch the STUPID dude it was a mistake :mad:

what a noob....

svhorns
01-20-2009, 02:15 PM
wow rocketgrl... you're on fire today...

svhorns
01-20-2009, 02:16 PM
The benefit of the doubt about what?

Because I dont get why we make a big stink over one guy and not another?

I agree that he did a lot of great things. I think much of what his dream for this nation has been lost over the years though. That's unfortunate. I just dont see what makes him any more deserving than, say.. uh. How about Lincoln. Do we get a national holiday for Lincoln? Washington? FRD? These guys were presidents. Men that did great things for this country. MLK was a man that did great things for this country.
I just dont understand all the praise for one and not for another. Also, when most of what MLK said and taught has been pushed to the wayside, he must not have been that important to the very people he was leading.

Presidents day?

dada
01-20-2009, 02:17 PM
Presidents day?

winner winner chicken dinner.

rocketgrl94
01-20-2009, 02:19 PM
winner winner chicken dinner.

Love, Peace, and Chicken Grease!:D:p

Pinion
01-20-2009, 02:19 PM
Presidents day?

not the same thing. they each need their own day. not a day where they're all thrown in together. and we are blasted on every tv station with what they did and blah blah blah.

Miss Kitty
01-20-2009, 02:20 PM
I think its safe to say that there are skeletons in the closet of all that are honored with a holiday.


And that includes santa.

Santa does not have a holiday.

rocketgrl94
01-20-2009, 02:20 PM
not the same thing. they each need their own day. not a day where they're all thrown in together. and we are blasted on every tv station with what they did and blah blah blah.

they do! they really dont deserve it but i would like more days off..thats cool:D

svhorns
01-20-2009, 02:22 PM
not the same thing. they each need their own day. not a day where they're all thrown in together. and we are blasted on every tv station with what they did and blah blah blah.

MLK didn't need presidency... he was more powerful than all 44 presidents combined... that's why they had to shoot him down... MLK knew he was going to die... he became a martyr... no president has ever become a martyr... they kill martyrs...

dada
01-20-2009, 02:22 PM
not the same thing. they each need their own day. not a day where they're all thrown in together. and we are blasted on every tv station with what they did and blah blah blah.

Lincolns birthday is Feb 12th...Washington's Feb 22....so instead of two holidays in the shortest month of the year.....they were thrown together.

I for one love BOXING day in Canada.

svhorns
01-20-2009, 02:24 PM
Lincolns birthday is Feb 12th...Washington's Feb 22....so instead of two holidays in the shortest month of the year.....they were thrown together.

I for one love BOXING day in Canada.

Boxing day in Canada is my birthday!

Miss Kitty
01-20-2009, 02:26 PM
Lincolns birthday is Feb 12th...Washington's Feb 22....so instead of two holidays in the shortest month of the year.....they were thrown together.

I for one love BOXING day in Canada.

They were put together and MLK was added.

Pinion
01-20-2009, 02:27 PM
MLK didn't need presidency... he was more powerful than all 44 presidents combined... that's why they had to shoot him down... MLK knew he was going to die... he became a martyr... no president has ever become a martyr... they kill martyrs...

uh. you cant be a martyr without being dead...hahaha...

And no. he was not more powerful than any president. ok, maybe Carter.

He was never president because he wouldnt have won. He never would have won. Him being dead was what made him who he "was". Had he never died, he would have faded into the same uselessness that JesseJackson and AlSharpton have faded into. Jackson had him killed because he knew it would help the "cause".

Firebird
01-20-2009, 02:28 PM
They were put together and MLK was added.

No they weren't. Lincoln's birthday was never a holiday. The federal holiday is still Washington's Birthday.

ATownTexan
01-20-2009, 02:31 PM
uh. you cant be a martyr without being dead...hahaha...

And no. he was not more powerful than any president. ok, maybe Carter.

He was never president because he wouldnt have won. He never would have won. Him being dead was what made him who he "was". Had he never died, he would have faded into the same uselessness that JesseJackson and AlSharpton have faded into. Jackson had him killed because he knew it would help the "cause".

Him dying does not make any of his accomplishments less significant. And he's dead because of WHO he was.

SLC
01-20-2009, 02:31 PM
i said watch the "stupid"......stupid is as stupid does..sweetie;):D


Couldn't have said it better..."stupid is as stupid does"...

Any thoughts as to why we wondered what you were talking about?...:p


:D

Miss Kitty
01-20-2009, 02:32 PM
No they weren't. Lincoln's birthday was never a holiday. The federal holiday is still Washington's Birthday.

Okay well, when I was in school, we treated Lincoln's birthday the same way we did Washington's and we were off. So I thought it was a National Holiday as well.

SLC
01-20-2009, 02:33 PM
Santa does not have a holiday.


I understand the day itself has a far different meaning... But santa gets all the credit.;)

Miss Kitty
01-20-2009, 02:34 PM
I understand the day itself has a far different meaning... But santa gets all the credit.;)

LOL...not in my house he doesn't. Hmmmm let's see.....Santamas...naaaa, Merry Santamas.....just doesn't have that ring.....Christmas.....Now that's better.

Yep, that holiday is spoken for by it's namesake. :)

SLC
01-20-2009, 02:35 PM
not the same thing. they each need their own day. not a day where they're all thrown in together. and we are blasted on every tv station with what they did and blah blah blah.


George Washington says hello.:)

Miss Kitty
01-20-2009, 02:35 PM
LOL...not in my house he doesn't. Hmmmm let's see.....Santamas...naaaa, Merry Santamas.....just doesn't have that ring.....Christmas.....Now that's better.

Yep, that holiday is spoken for by it's namesake. :)

Oh and please don't tell me that Easter belongs to a bunny either. ;):D

dada
01-20-2009, 02:36 PM
Oh and please don't tell me that Easter belongs to a bunny either. ;):D

Halloween.....what the hell did pumpkins do?

rocketgrl94
01-20-2009, 02:37 PM
Couldn't have said it better..."stupid is as stupid does"...

Any thoughts as to why we wondered what you were talking about?...:p


:D

Leave Me Alone!....im thru with that!:D:p

SLC
01-20-2009, 02:38 PM
LOL...not in my house he doesn't. Hmmmm let's see.....Santamas...naaaa, Merry Santamas.....just doesn't have that ring.....Christmas.....Now that's better.

Yep, that holiday is spoken for by it's namesake. :)


Again.. You and I agree.. To an extent anyway..I dont believe Christ was born on that day, but thats another topic for another day.. But accross this nation..santa is celebrated more on that day than is christ..Its unfortunate, but true.

SLC
01-20-2009, 02:39 PM
Oh and please don't tell me that Easter belongs to a bunny either. ;):D


No, but you touch on a very good point.. The bunny and the eggs are celebrated more than christ on that day.

SLC
01-20-2009, 02:40 PM
Halloween.....what the hell did pumpkins do?

Devils day..:D

RedRage00
01-20-2009, 02:41 PM
No, but you touch on a very good point.. The bunny and the eggs are celebrated more than christ on that day.

I just want some pretty colored boiled eggs on that day. :D

SLC
01-20-2009, 02:42 PM
I just want some pretty colored boiled eggs on that day. :D


I rest my case.

rocketgrl94
01-20-2009, 02:43 PM
I rest in my nutcase.

fify

RedRage00
01-20-2009, 02:44 PM
fify

Be careful. You don't want to offend dawgfan. He doesn't want it thrown in his face. ;)

SLC
01-20-2009, 02:44 PM
fify


Noob.

RedRage00
01-20-2009, 02:45 PM
Noob.

Yeah, it was pretty lame.

I blame it on her Judson education.

SLC
01-20-2009, 02:45 PM
Be careful. You don't want to offend dawgfan. He doesn't want it thrown in his face. ;)


He doesn't want what thrown in his face?...nuts?..LMAO.:D

Pinion
01-20-2009, 02:46 PM
Him dying does not make any of his accomplishments less significant. And he's dead because of WHO he was.

I dont think he really accomplished all that much. The people accomplished a lot back then. Then they just kind of stopped.

the truth of the matter is that I dont really care. Either way I dont care. we could have MLK day once a month for all I care.

MLK's name has been tossed into all kinds of stuff to fit an agenda that wasnt so much his. And people have lost sight of what he was really trying to do and the means to get it done. That happens often with a lot of things.

Mainly I'm just stirring the pot here. People have lost sight of MLK and his dream. Nothing is going to bring that dream back until people learn to take personal responsibility for themselves and their own actions.

RedRage00
01-20-2009, 02:47 PM
He doesn't want what thrown in his face?...nuts?..LMAO.:D

LMAO! :notworthy

dada
01-20-2009, 02:48 PM
I dont think he really accomplished all that much. The people accomplished a lot back then. Then they just kind of stopped.

the truth of the matter is that I dont really care. Either way I dont care. we could have MLK day once a month for all I care.

MLK's name has been tossed into all kinds of stuff to fit an agenda that wasnt so much his. And people have lost sight of what he was really trying to do and the means to get it done. That happens often with a lot of things.

Mainly I'm just stirring the pot here. People have lost sight of MLK and his dream. Nothing is going to bring that dream back until people learn to take personal responsibility for themselves and their own actions.

people are losing track of the dream because the dream is being erased in History classes and books...

Miss Kitty
01-20-2009, 02:49 PM
No, but you touch on a very good point.. The bunny and the eggs are celebrated more than christ on that day.

Again, that depends on who it is.

svhorns
01-20-2009, 02:50 PM
Again.. You and I agree.. To an extent anyway..I dont believe Christ was born on that day, but thats another topic for another day.. But accross this nation..santa is celebrated more on that day than is christ..Its unfortunate, but true.

I'm all ears for that one... I've never heard anyone say that... I'm chrisjewmuscathbudd... I believe in all religions..

Pinion
01-20-2009, 02:52 PM
people are losing track of the dream because the dream is being erased in History classes and books...

I havent been to school in a lot of years, so I dont know. But I know when I was in school we had "black history month" shoved down our throats every year.
Instead of just teaching history as it actually happened. We had to try and make people "feel" better about stuff. I guess that was the point. I dont know what the point actually was.

Slorch said in another thread something along the lines of as long as there are those keeping score we'll never be equals. And I agree with that.

slorch
01-20-2009, 02:52 PM
Halloween.....what the hell did pumpkins do?

make pies.

damned good ones.

although pies from bunnies ain't so bad either...;):D

rocketgrl94
01-20-2009, 02:55 PM
Yeah, it was pretty lame.

I blame it on her Judson education.

leave my Judson edumacation out of this!
ya'll are all a bunch of nuts, nuts, nuts, nuts, nuts, nuts, nuts
is that enough nuts for u?:D

SLC
01-20-2009, 02:58 PM
Again, that depends on who it is.


I agree.. I think you and I are on the same page.. and the santa reference earlier was just a small joke..again to an extent..

Our culture is and has hit the mainstream..We (as a culture and society) adore the material things and worldly possesions more than anything..When that happens all the true meaning of certain day and certain things and certain beliefs get thrown by the wayside..perception then becomes reality for all the youth growing up around drive through fast food places..and presents and toys...eggs and candy... and so on and so on.. Before long it ends up like it is today..just one big commercialized extravaganza... those days dont hold the meaning they once did...Its unfortunate, but true.

svhorns
01-20-2009, 03:01 PM
leave my Judson edumacation out of this!
ya'll are all a bunch of nuts, nuts, nuts, nuts, nuts, nuts, nuts
is that enough nuts for u?:D

I have nuts and ice cream. and 2pac cd's.

dada
01-20-2009, 03:01 PM
I have nuts and ice cream. and 2pac cd's.

Get a McRib and you're GOOD.

ATownTexan
01-20-2009, 03:04 PM
I dont think he really accomplished all that much. The people accomplished a lot back then. Then they just kind of stopped.

the truth of the matter is that I dont really care. Either way I dont care. we could have MLK day once a month for all I care.

MLK's name has been tossed into all kinds of stuff to fit an agenda that wasnt so much his. And people have lost sight of what he was really trying to do and the means to get it done. That happens often with a lot of things.

Mainly I'm just stirring the pot here. People have lost sight of MLK and his dream. Nothing is going to bring that dream back until people learn to take personal responsibility for themselves and their own actions.

For some reason this doesn't surprise me. My family members (and maybe even myself) were able to attend the Univ. of Alabama due to some of the things that he accomplished in that state. Some people may have lost sight of his dream but there are still some that are working to make the world a better place. Maybe in today's 'me first' society we don't have anyone that is as self-less as Dr. King and is willing to put themselves out there and attempt to start a movement that they will probably not live long enough to see come to fruition. Maybe by having these types of discussions we are continuing the dream?

rocketgrl94
01-20-2009, 03:04 PM
Get a McRib and you're GOOD.

noooo i dont think so!!!make that two!:D:p

SLC
01-20-2009, 03:04 PM
I'm all ears for that one... I've never heard anyone say that... I'm chrisjewmuscathbudd... I believe in all religions..



I wont go into a full discussion about it..not because I dont want to, but because everyone takes a different view on it and thinks they are right.. Thats why I said "I" dont believe it..others can if they choose to..

You can always research it for yourself though..heres a start...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas

svhorns
01-20-2009, 03:04 PM
Get a McRib and you're GOOD.

I have a McRib... but I guarantee you it tastes much better than the ones they serve at mcdonalds...

slorch
01-20-2009, 03:05 PM
dr. Martin luther king, jr., gave people hope and faith in that dreams can and do come true. Believe it or not, our country has come a long way since his speech. While there are still a lot of racial issues (whether it's against blacks, whites, hispanics, etc) among other things still around today, i truly believe he would be proud of the progress our country has made.

i think we do need mlk day to help remind us that we need to continue on progressing and although i do not think there will ever be a day where racial issues aren't prevalent, as people and as a country, we are certainly getting better at it.

+1

rocketgrl94
01-20-2009, 03:12 PM
I have a McRib... but I guarantee you it tastes much better than the ones they serve at mcdonalds...

U need to quit!:p

RP-3
01-20-2009, 03:15 PM
Well ... obviously it's a pretty big deal here in Atlanta and I usually take the day off of work to go and volunteer at one or two of the many different projects going on. I personally think he was an incredible man looking back at some of the things he said and did at such a young age. He put his life on the line every day to try to make the World a better place when a lot of people resisted such thinking. He had to courage to fight for those who were scared to and 'chose' to be the voice for people who were not treated as equal citizens of this country. He did this in a non-violent manner during VERY VIOLENT times. I'm a bit bias as I've had the pleasure to speak to a few individuals that worked directly with the man (one was staying in the room next to him when he was killed in Memphis). The man knew he was going to die yet selflessly continued to fight for justice and equality everyday. If you haven't had the chance to visit his memorial in Memphis I strongly suggest it. It is a very moving and emotional experience.





This

svhorns
01-20-2009, 03:18 PM
U need to quit!:p

It's the S the L the I the M
Let me tell you what I wanna do,
Let me show you that I'm feelin' you

rocketgrl94
01-20-2009, 03:20 PM
It's the S the L the I the M
Let me tell you what I wanna do,
Let me show you that I'm feelin' you

:eek::eek::rolleyes:

svhorns
01-20-2009, 03:26 PM
:eek::eek::rolleyes:

whats up... you don't like peaches and cream.

rocketgrl94
01-20-2009, 03:26 PM
whats up... you don't like peaches and cream.

i like chocolate twinkies:D

SLC
01-20-2009, 03:28 PM
i like chocolate twinkies:D


I think they call those zingers.

rocketgrl94
01-20-2009, 03:32 PM
I think they call those zingers.
im talkin about chocolate twinkies
http://static.flickr.com/41/77900919_b7c7f210d1_m.jpg
Yes i eat zingers too:rolleyes::D

svhorns
01-20-2009, 03:36 PM
im talkin about chocolate twinkies
http://static.flickr.com/41/77900919_b7c7f210d1_m.jpg
Yes i eat zingers too:rolleyes::D

I have a twinkie the size of a zinger.

SLC
01-20-2009, 03:40 PM
im talkin about chocolate twinkies
http://static.flickr.com/41/77900919_b7c7f210d1_m.jpg
Yes i eat zingers too:rolleyes::D


I'm talking bout Zingers...rich chocolate on the outside...creamy white stuf on the inside...

http://www.freshchocodiles.com/images/zingers.jpg

rocketgrl94
01-20-2009, 03:42 PM
I'm talking bout Zingers...rich chocolate on the outside...creamy white stuf on the inside...

http://www.freshchocodiles.com/images/zingers.jpg

daaang u didnt half to pull out a picture of it!:p

JMSFan
01-21-2009, 12:32 AM
I dont think he really accomplished all that much. The people accomplished a lot back then. Then they just kind of stopped.

the truth of the matter is that I dont really care. Either way I dont care. we could have MLK day once a month for all I care.

MLK's name has been tossed into all kinds of stuff to fit an agenda that wasnt so much his. And people have lost sight of what he was really trying to do and the means to get it done. That happens often with a lot of things.

Mainly I'm just stirring the pot here. People have lost sight of MLK and his dream. Nothing is going to bring that dream back until people learn to take personal responsibility for themselves and their own actions.

Yes they have lost sight, you are so correct.

JMSFan
01-21-2009, 12:35 AM
people are losing track of the dream because the dream is being erased in History classes and books...

How is it being erased?:confused: I call B.S.

BDB
01-21-2009, 12:54 AM
How is it being erased?:confused: I call B.S.

dragonpants asking what Dr. MLK did that made him worthy of a holiday is proof enough.

i guess coming from a district where the minority was the majority we studied cival rights a bit deeper then other districts in the state.

GoOwls
01-21-2009, 03:50 AM
people are losing track of the dream because the dream is being erased in History classes and books...

Possibly......or is it being erased by ignorance, entitlements, paranoia, tunnelvision, and the Gangsta/Rap/gang mentality?

Just asking.....;)

ktCarl
01-21-2009, 06:15 AM
Well all I know is the last place I worked gave us the day of and where I now work we didn't have the day off so I agree with Dada. :mad:

I'll take a paid day off from work on MLK Day. In fact, I want to lobby for a Ronald Reagan Day so I can have another day off. We need to catch up to bankers and all their Holidays.

dragonpants
01-21-2009, 08:38 AM
dragonpants asking what Dr. MLK did that made him worthy of a holiday is proof enough.

i guess coming from a district where the minority was the majority we studied cival rights a bit deeper then other districts in the state.

Carroll studies civil rights and history as much as any other district. Remember it is state curriculum.

Funny that because I have a differing opinion then the whole district has a different course of study than the other districts in the state. Come on man.

As I said he was a great man but IMO Rosa Parks did more for civil rights than did MLK.

Also remember the republican party has done exponentially more for civil rights than the democrats and that is a historical fact.

DragonWatcher
01-21-2009, 09:38 AM
Carroll studies civil rights and history as much as any other district. Remember it is state curriculum.

Funny that because I have a differing opinion then the whole district has a different course of study than the other districts in the state. Come on man.

As I said he was a great man but IMO Rosa Parks did more for civil rights than did MLK.

Also remember the republican party has done exponentially more for civil rights than the democrats and that is a historical fact.

Umm no. 1964 Civil rights acts passed by Johnson and dems, lost the south for the next 40 years because of it. It was the more liberal justices on the court that pushed civil rights legislation through. What you just said is not remotely historical fact. Lincoln emancipated the slaves, that's pretty much all you got.

dragonpants
01-21-2009, 09:50 AM
Umm no. 1964 Civil rights acts passed by Johnson and dems, lost the south for the next 40 years because of it. It was the more liberal justices on the court that pushed civil rights legislation through. What you just said is not remotely historical fact. Lincoln emancipated the slaves, that's pretty much all you got.

really who pushed for desegregation?

dragonpants
01-21-2009, 09:51 AM
Umm no. 1964 Civil rights acts passed by Johnson and dems, lost the south for the next 40 years because of it. It was the more liberal justices on the court that pushed civil rights legislation through. What you just said is not remotely historical fact. Lincoln emancipated the slaves, that's pretty much all you got.

really what Supreme Court Justices championed new laws, I am not saying you are incorrect, I would like to know.

JMSFan
01-21-2009, 11:16 AM
dragonpants asking what Dr. MLK did that made him worthy of a holiday is proof enough.

i guess coming from a district where the minority was the majority we studied cival rights a bit deeper then other districts in the state.

He was just yanking your chain.

BDB
01-21-2009, 11:57 AM
really who pushed for desegregation?

really what Supreme Court Justices championed new laws, I am not saying you are incorrect, I would like to know.

He was just yanking your chain.

of course he is....

DragonWatcher
01-21-2009, 02:36 PM
really what Supreme Court Justices championed new laws, I am not saying you are incorrect, I would like to know.

That would be the Warren court. Just a few of the major cases they covered

* Brown v. Board of Education 347 U.S. 483 (1954), which banned the segregation of public schools;
* the "one man, one vote" cases of 1962–1964, which dramatically altered the relative power of rural regions in many states;
* Gideon v. Wainwright, 372 U.S. 335 (1963), which held that the Sixth Amendment required that indigent non-capital criminal defendants receive publicly-funded counsel (the law to that point requiring the assignment of free counsel only to indigent capital defendants);
* Miranda v. Arizona, 384 U.S. 436 (1966), which required that certain rights of a person being interrogated while in police custody be clearly explained, including the right to an attorney (often called the "Miranda warning").
* Loving v. Virginia, {388 U.S. 1} (1967), which allowed inter-racial marriage, over turning the Racial Integrity Act of 1924.