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Favpack
12-29-2008, 11:12 AM
The Cowboys have been miserable crunch time failures forever. With the exception of the Tuna period, the team has been beyond abysmal. Why?

One name - Jerry Jones.

To say Jerrah is a meddling owner is to call the Pilsbury dough boy slightly pudgy. He's beyond meddling.

Not a big deal through about Nov. 1 - but come crunch time in the NFL, JJ gets more meddling and there is more of a sense of urgency to succeed, to get it done, to win another ring - and NFL players don't respond well to that type of environment. This year he throws Barber under the bus, last year it was Romo going to Mexico.

Throw in the fact he's had yes men as coaches except Tuna - and you have a recipe for failure in the clutch. Jerry meddles, head coach turns wimp, players get pi**ed, team implodes.

Before you dismiss this idea - come up with your own - bad luck? Gailey, Campo, Phillips, TO, Romo, Hoggeboom, give me something. I say it's JJ - he's not a football mind, yet he gets in the way and it becomes too much come crunch time. He simply refuses to get out of the picture.

It surfaced this year about December 1, last year it was Christmas, the year before it was mid-December.

The only exception to any degree has been the Parcells era. Save a Romo botched snap, at least that team played a good PO game and made some plays in winter.

There is no other constant bottom line - Jerry Jones.

wesaxman34
12-29-2008, 11:26 AM
Can somebody predict the number of posts on here before chunky79 comes and says that the Cowboys suck?

toonman
12-29-2008, 11:45 AM
The Cowboys have been miserable crunch time failures forever. With the exception of the Tuna period, the team has been beyond abysmal. Why?

One name - Jerry Jones.

To say Jerrah is a meddling owner is to call the Pilsbury dough boy slightly pudgy. He's beyond meddling.

Not a big deal through about Nov. 1 - but come crunch time in the NFL, JJ gets more meddling and there is more of a sense of urgency to succeed, to get it done, to win another ring - and NFL players don't respond well to that type of environment. This year he throws Barber under the bus, last year it was Romo going to Mexico.

Throw in the fact he's had yes men as coaches except Tuna - and you have a recipe for failure in the clutch. Jerry meddles, head coach turns wimp, players get pi**ed, team implodes.

Before you dismiss this idea - come up with your own - bad luck? Gailey, Campo, Phillips, TO, Romo, Hoggeboom, give me something. I say it's JJ - he's not a football mind, yet he gets in the way and it becomes too much come crunch time. He simply refuses to get out of the picture.

It surfaced this year about December 1, last year it was Christmas, the year before it was mid-December.

The only exception to any degree has been the Parcells era. Save a Romo botched snap, at least that team played a good PO game and made some plays in winter.

There is no other constant bottom line - Jerry Jones.

You have hit the nail on the head. Jerry needs to be the owner and bring in a Football General Manager and leave the managing of the team to the experts. Jerry is playing real life Fantasy Football and doing badly at it.

Favpack
12-29-2008, 11:50 AM
You have hit the nail on the head. Jerry needs to be the owner and bring in a Football General Manager and leave the managing of the team to the experts. Jerry is playing real life Fantasy Football and doing badly at it.

Cowherd stated this much cleaer than I this morning. The meddling aspect of it is the problem for sure - it's like a pimple that hits full-sized problem every December. He needs a stern GM and a sterner HC - will it happen?

SLC
12-29-2008, 12:03 PM
Cowherd stated this much cleaer than I this morning. The meddling aspect of it is the problem for sure - it's like a pimple that hits full-sized problem every December. He needs a stern GM and a sterner HC - will it happen?

No.

Dawg Fan
12-29-2008, 12:20 PM
the cowboys have been miserable crunch time failures forever. With the exception of the tuna period, the team has been beyond abysmal. Why?

One name - jerry jones.

To say jerrah is a meddling owner is to call the pilsbury dough boy slightly pudgy. He's beyond meddling.

Not a big deal through about nov. 1 - but come crunch time in the nfl, jj gets more meddling and there is more of a sense of urgency to succeed, to get it done, to win another ring - and nfl players don't respond well to that type of environment. This year he throws barber under the bus, last year it was romo going to mexico.

Throw in the fact he's had yes men as coaches except tuna - and you have a recipe for failure in the clutch. Jerry meddles, head coach turns wimp, players get pi**ed, team implodes.

Before you dismiss this idea - come up with your own - bad luck? Gailey, campo, phillips, to, romo, hoggeboom, give me something. I say it's jj - he's not a football mind, yet he gets in the way and it becomes too much come crunch time. He simply refuses to get out of the picture.

It surfaced this year about december 1, last year it was christmas, the year before it was mid-december.

The only exception to any degree has been the parcells era. Save a romo botched snap, at least that team played a good po game and made some plays in winter.

There is no other constant bottom line - jerry jones.


this

jtk1519
12-29-2008, 12:24 PM
Jerry really does suck. Maybe if he had taken over one of the worst teams in the NFL and won 3 Superbowls, then maybe, but... oh, wait...

SLC
12-29-2008, 12:30 PM
Jerry really does suck. Maybe if he had taken over one of the worst teams in the NFL and won 3 Superbowls, then maybe, but... oh, wait...


He had Jimmy Genius then, since Jimmy G., nothing.

rancher52
12-29-2008, 12:33 PM
The Cowboys have been miserable crunch time failures forever. With the exception of the Tuna period, the team has been beyond abysmal. Why?

One name - Jerry Jones.

To say Jerrah is a meddling owner is to call the Pilsbury dough boy slightly pudgy. He's beyond meddling.

Not a big deal through about Nov. 1 - but come crunch time in the NFL, JJ gets more meddling and there is more of a sense of urgency to succeed, to get it done, to win another ring - and NFL players don't respond well to that type of environment. This year he throws Barber under the bus, last year it was Romo going to Mexico.

Throw in the fact he's had yes men as coaches except Tuna - and you have a recipe for failure in the clutch. Jerry meddles, head coach turns wimp, players get pi**ed, team implodes.

Before you dismiss this idea - come up with your own - bad luck? Gailey, Campo, Phillips, TO, Romo, Hoggeboom, give me something. I say it's JJ - he's not a football mind, yet he gets in the way and it becomes too much come crunch time. He simply refuses to get out of the picture.

It surfaced this year about December 1, last year it was Christmas, the year before it was mid-December.

The only exception to any degree has been the Parcells era. Save a Romo botched snap, at least that team played a good PO game and made some plays in winter.

There is no other constant bottom line - Jerry Jones.

I am not so sure the Tuna gets a pass either. Two playoff appearances and two losses. Dallas is only better than Detroit in terms of NFC teams with the longest drought in playoffs wins.

CCCSportsFan
12-29-2008, 12:41 PM
Cowherd stated this much cleaer than I this morning. The meddling aspect of it is the problem for sure - it's like a pimple that hits full-sized problem every December. He needs a stern GM and a sterner HC - will it happen?

I don't like hearing this... I was holding out hope that Jerry could convince Cowher to coach the team. Sounds like Bill is sending a clear signal that he wants no part of the Cowboys.. Crap!!

jtk1519
12-29-2008, 12:47 PM
He had Jimmy Genius then, since Jimmy G., nothing.

Good point. And since Jerry had nothing to do with Jimmy being in Dallas, Jerry gets none of the credit... oh, wait...

jtk1519
12-29-2008, 12:48 PM
I don't like hearing this... I was holding out hope that Jerry could convince Cowher to coach the team. Sounds like Bill is sending a clear signal that he wants no part of the Cowboys.. Crap!!

Learn to read. He said "Cowherd" not "Cowher". That's "Cowherd" as in Collin Cowherd, the radio host on ESPiN radio.

tayb
12-29-2008, 12:53 PM
Embarrassing. Worst loss in 19 years or something ridiculous. I don't even think the Lions had a worse loss this year. Pathetic by all members. I can't even believe that Jones wouldn't even entertain the thought of getting rid of Santa Claus after this disastrous season. Stay stubborn Jones.

SLC
12-29-2008, 12:58 PM
Good point. And since Jerry had nothing to do with Jimmy being in Dallas, Jerry gets none of the credit... oh, wait...

No, at that time Jerry wasnt full of himself.. He gets full credit for bringing Jimmy G. in... And also gets the blame for becoming the anti-Jimmy G. Jerry.

If the old Jerry still existed, the Cowboys wouldn't be in the predictament they are in.

CCCSportsFan
12-29-2008, 12:58 PM
Learn to read. He said "Cowherd" not "Cowher". That's "Cowherd" as in Collin Cowherd, the radio host on ESPiN radio.



Excuse me Mr. Genius...

jtk1519
12-29-2008, 01:08 PM
Excuse me Mr. Genius...

Just don't let it happen again.

Maroondog
12-29-2008, 01:28 PM
The Cowboys have been miserable crunch time failures forever. With the exception of the Tuna period, the team has been beyond abysmal. Why?

One name - Jerry Jones.

To say Jerrah is a meddling owner is to call the Pilsbury dough boy slightly pudgy. He's beyond meddling.

Not a big deal through about Nov. 1 - but come crunch time in the NFL, JJ gets more meddling and there is more of a sense of urgency to succeed, to get it done, to win another ring - and NFL players don't respond well to that type of environment. This year he throws Barber under the bus, last year it was Romo going to Mexico.

Throw in the fact he's had yes men as coaches except Tuna - and you have a recipe for failure in the clutch. Jerry meddles, head coach turns wimp, players get pi**ed, team implodes.

Before you dismiss this idea - come up with your own - bad luck? Gailey, Campo, Phillips, TO, Romo, Hoggeboom, give me something. I say it's JJ - he's not a football mind, yet he gets in the way and it becomes too much come crunch time. He simply refuses to get out of the picture.

It surfaced this year about December 1, last year it was Christmas, the year before it was mid-December.

The only exception to any degree has been the Parcells era. Save a Romo botched snap, at least that team played a good PO game and made some plays in winter.

There is no other constant bottom line - Jerry Jones.

The worst thing that ever happened to Jerry was his hiring Jimmy Johnson. Jimmy came in as a REAL coach with authority who could evaluate talent and get more out of players than they thought they had. Jimmy put together 3 Superbowl Champions even though the last one had an idiot on the sidelines masquerading as a coach. As a result, Jerry gets a bigger head and feels he is an actual football person.

Since Jimmy's departure and Jerry subsequently running the whole show, the Cowboys have fallen deeper into the s:Censor:hole.

Jerry's rise as a part of the football operation instead of being a team owner has signaled a steady decline of the franchise. Sure, they have talent to win some games, but at crunch time they are nowhere to be seen. "For every action there is an equal an opposite reaction." (For you physics majors)

Jerry got lucky with Jimmy, but his luck has run out.

TEXREB
12-29-2008, 01:36 PM
No, at that time Jerry wasnt full of himself.. He gets full credit for bringing Jimmy G. in... And also gets the blame for becoming the anti-Jimmy G. Jerry.

If the old Jerry still existed, the Cowboys wouldn't be in the predictament they are in.

Jerry couldn't stand that Jimmy was getting the credit for turning around the Cowboys and basically ran him off. His ego wouldn't allow someone else to get the glory. They won one with Switzer, but that was with Jimmy's team. Once Jerry started making personnel decisions, the boys have been going downhill. He's willing to spend the money, but bringing in high priced free agents isn't always the answer. Drafting under Jerry has not been all that great either. Until he realizes that he needs a football GM, Dallas will not return to the Super Bowl. They might do well and make the playoffs, but I don't see them winning it all, IMHO.

TEXREB
12-29-2008, 01:37 PM
the worst thing that ever happened to jerry was his hiring jimmy johnson. Jimmy came in as a real coach with authority who could evaluate talent and get more out of players than they thought they had. Jimmy put together 3 superbowl champions even though the last one had an idiot on the sidelines masquerading as a coach. As a result, jerry gets a bigger head and feels he is an actual football person.

Since jimmy's departure and jerry subsequently running the whole show, the cowboys have fallen deeper into the s:censor:hole.

Jerry's rise as a part of the football operation instead of being a team owner has signaled a steady decline of the franchise. Sure, they have talent to win some games, but at crunch time they are nowhere to be seen. "for every action there is an equal an opposite reaction." (for you physics majors)

jerry got lucky with jimmy, but his luck has run out.

+1

Leander 6136
12-29-2008, 01:43 PM
The Cowboys have been miserable crunch time failures forever. With the exception of the Tuna period, the team has been beyond abysmal. Why?

One name - Jerry Jones.

To say Jerrah is a meddling owner is to call the Pilsbury dough boy slightly pudgy. He's beyond meddling.

Not a big deal through about Nov. 1 - but come crunch time in the NFL, JJ gets more meddling and there is more of a sense of urgency to succeed, to get it done, to win another ring - and NFL players don't respond well to that type of environment. This year he throws Barber under the bus, last year it was Romo going to Mexico.

Throw in the fact he's had yes men as coaches except Tuna - and you have a recipe for failure in the clutch. Jerry meddles, head coach turns wimp, players get pi**ed, team implodes.

Before you dismiss this idea - come up with your own - bad luck? Gailey, Campo, Phillips, TO, Romo, Hoggeboom, give me something. I say it's JJ - he's not a football mind, yet he gets in the way and it becomes too much come crunch time. He simply refuses to get out of the picture.

It surfaced this year about December 1, last year it was Christmas, the year before it was mid-December.

The only exception to any degree has been the Parcells era. Save a Romo botched snap, at least that team played a good PO game and made some plays in winter.

There is no other constant bottom line - Jerry Jones.

I agree Parcells was awesome, remind me again was he ever better than 9-7 and did he win any playoff games?

Favpack
12-29-2008, 01:59 PM
Jerry really does suck. Maybe if he had taken over one of the worst teams in the NFL and won 3 Superbowls, then maybe, but... oh, wait...

1994 called - they want their mullet back.

svhorns
12-29-2008, 02:38 PM
because its cold outside.

twcpfan1
12-29-2008, 03:02 PM
Jerry has won 3 superbowls in the relatively short time he's been the Cowboys owner.

In that time, only the Patriots have as many, I believe. Most other teams have none.

Favpack
12-29-2008, 03:13 PM
Jerry has won 3 superbowls in the relatively short time he's been the Cowboys owner.

In that time, only the Patriots have as many, I believe. Most other teams have none.

I've got no problem acknowledging this, but let's get a PO win this decade. Dallas is on the cusp of nothing right now other than what they are - inconsistent.

IMO - there is no comparison whatsoever between Dallas and the Giants or Pats and Colts - the three premiere franchises right now. Let's face it - JJ does a heck of a lot less with more.

SLC
12-29-2008, 03:21 PM
Jerry has won 3 superbowls in the relatively short time he's been the Cowboys owner.

In that time, only the Patriots have as many, I believe. Most other teams have none.

And what does that mean?... They won 3 super bowls in his first 7 years and no playoff wins in the last 12.

hshs
12-29-2008, 03:36 PM
Cowherd stated this much cleaer than I this morning. The meddling aspect of it is the problem for sure - it's like a pimple that hits full-sized problem every December. He needs a stern GM and a sterner HC - will it happen?

If it does than he will fire them once things start to go well and he thinks he can do it on his own again.

I wonder how many titles in a row they could have won if not for his running off Jimmy Johnson with his meddling. Easily 4. Maybe 5 or 6. That would have made that team the unquestioned all-time NFL dynasty and instead he ruined it because he wanted a coach he could control.

twcpfan1
12-29-2008, 04:10 PM
And what does that mean?... They won 3 super bowls in his first 7 years and no playoff wins in the last 12.

Just a hunch, but most NFL franchises would take Jerry's 19 year run over the ones they're currently on.

I don't like the Cowboys but it is what it is. They just need to dump Romo and Philips and get some real leadership in there again.

Panther #73
12-29-2008, 04:39 PM
here is why, and i was talking about this to my friends last night

1. Jerry Jones keeps letting these stupid players back on the roster. Pacman is a big example. They dont care about the game, thats why they did what they did. Screw up once, your done...Think about that jerry

2. Tony Romo needs to go. He SUCKS under pressure and can not do well in certain win or go home games! Id hate to see him down in the 4th quarter of a superbowl! like that will ever happen though

3. Get rid of T.O., Pacman, Romo and Barber. Big time players but their hurting us! Id rather have johnson get better and be our QB full time! Romo is overrated! Get rid of T.O.! ill say it again...get rid of T.O....this is why the eagles got rid of him! He sucks and he's like a little teenager outside the feild and loves drama! *******!!

Play tough love jerry jones! It takes time to build a superbowl team. You cant just hire every felon out of prison or jail and expect to win! Thats why you have the problems you do now! Get some talented players who dont wanna screw up and get in trouble! have some players will to play with all their heart and they dont wanna sit out cuz of a broken pinkie or a broken little toe!!! SUCK IT UP!! WITTEN PLAYED WITH A BROKEN RIB!!!

RP-3
12-29-2008, 05:01 PM
here is why, and i was talking about this to my friends last night

1. Jerry Jones keeps letting these stupid players back on the roster. Pacman is a big example. They dont care about the game, thats why they did what they did. Screw up once, your done...Think about that jerry

2. Tony Romo needs to go. He SUCKS under pressure and can not do well in certain win or go home games! Id hate to see him down in the 4th quarter of a superbowl! like that will ever happen though

3. Get rid of T.O., Pacman, Romo and Barber. Big time players but their hurting us! Id rather have johnson get better and be our QB full time! Romo is overrated! Get rid of T.O.! ill say it again...get rid of T.O....this is why the eagles got rid of him! He sucks and he's like a little teenager outside the feild and loves drama! *******!!

Play tough love jerry jones! It takes time to build a superbowl team. You cant just hire every felon out of prison or jail and expect to win! Thats why you have the problems you do now! Get some talented players who dont wanna screw up and get in trouble! have some players will to play with all their heart and they dont wanna sit out cuz of a broken pinkie or a broken little toe!!! SUCK IT UP!! WITTEN PLAYED WITH A BROKEN RIB!!!

Now that was funny. Please tell me you are kidding? Did you not see Johnson play when Romo was hurt?:confused:

Redhoss
12-29-2008, 05:17 PM
The Cowboys have more holes in the organization than swiss cheese.

It starts with JJ I agree with others who are spot on about not having the right coaching and players.

Jimmy inherited a very young team with a great QB. They were hungry to win. I'd start over by trading away the majority of my stars and go draft a bunch of rookies and hire a coach like Jimmy, right after hiring the best GM I could.

Sadly, this isn't going to happen and JJ will continue to mess things up. No rings as long as JJ is the owner. :mad:

Dawg Fan
12-29-2008, 06:13 PM
here is why, and i was talking about this to my friends last night

1. Jerry Jones keeps letting these stupid players back on the roster. Pacman is a big example. They dont care about the game, thats why they did what they did. Screw up once, your done...Think about that jerry

2. Tony Romo needs to go. He SUCKS under pressure and can not do well in certain win or go home games! Id hate to see him down in the 4th quarter of a superbowl! like that will ever happen though

3. Get rid of T.O., Pacman, Romo and Barber. Big time players but their hurting us! Id rather have johnson get better and be our QB full time! Romo is overrated! Get rid of T.O.! ill say it again...get rid of T.O....this is why the eagles got rid of him! He sucks and he's like a little teenager outside the feild and loves drama! *******!!

Play tough love jerry jones! It takes time to build a superbowl team. You cant just hire every felon out of prison or jail and expect to win! Thats why you have the problems you do now! Get some talented players who dont wanna screw up and get in trouble! have some players will to play with all their heart and they dont wanna sit out cuz of a broken pinkie or a broken little toe!!! SUCK IT UP!! WITTEN PLAYED WITH A BROKEN RIB!!!

Id rather have johnson get better and be our QB full time!

That sentence alone makes your whole post null and void

put down the fatty......why do you think they call it dope?;)

4th and 1
12-29-2008, 06:17 PM
Sorry Cowboy fans - nothing's going to change...Here's wade's answer to the problem (lol):

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-cowboys-wrapup&prov=ap&type=lgns

chunky79
12-29-2008, 06:23 PM
Can somebody predict the number of posts on here before chunky79 comes and says that the Cowboys suck?

:D

1996 and counting

Favpack
12-29-2008, 07:15 PM
Wade Phillips says major things will change prior to next year.

LOL - okie dokie then.

SLC
12-29-2008, 07:38 PM
Wade Phillips says major things will change prior to next year.

LOL - okie dokie then.

Really?.. Is he going to join weight watchers...

Favpack
12-29-2008, 07:42 PM
Anybody ever noticed how sucky special teams were this year?

Converting fake fg's
Giving up major return yardage
Pacman fumbling a KO.

SLC
12-29-2008, 07:54 PM
Anybody ever noticed how sucky special teams were this year?

Converting fake fg's
Giving up major return yardage
Pacman fumbling a KO.

Yes. Can we bring back Coach Joe?

SGP 06 Alumni
12-29-2008, 09:29 PM
Wade Phillips says major things will change prior to next year.

LOL - okie dokie then.

hahaha.. That is a funny one by Wade. No really, he should be a comedian, because you can't just all of a sudden change your approach to the players. Once you have made an identity of yourself to the players, they will always see you as that person. They will never see him as an authoritative coach, and the moment he tries to become that type of coach they will look at him like he's crazy. They know Wade for what he is, and it is too late to try and just "change" your approach. They don't play as a team or for Wade, they play for themselves (individually). They have no identity as a "team". And until they get one, they will never be a "team" capable of winning a championship, or a even a single playoff game for that matter.

I'm as big of a Cowboys fan as anyone out there, and lose, win, or tie I ride with them till the day I die. However, I know a "team" when I see one, and that is exactly what the Cowboys are not.

MrMakeitHappen
12-29-2008, 11:27 PM
This topic is full of sorry excuses

K-Rock
12-30-2008, 01:52 AM
This will continue to happen until they find real leadership at QB.

Romo is not the right guy. Reminds me of Jake Plumber. Has some really great games, but disappears when he is needed most.

SGP 06 Alumni
12-30-2008, 02:05 AM
This topic is full of sorry excuses

Where is the excuses you talk about in my post? I said they don't play as a team, that is not an excuse. They get no sympathy from me, they deserve to be watching the playoffs from their big fancy homes.

Panther #73
12-30-2008, 09:36 AM
Now that was funny. Please tell me you are kidding? Did you not see Johnson play when Romo was hurt?:confused:

Have you seen Romo play in PLAYOFF SITUATIONS!!! obviously he cant get the job done :eek:


So yes! Id rather have Johnson or another QB come in, work on their stuff and get better and be a leader. Romo isnt that guy!


Come on now! Think smart!

Panther #73
12-30-2008, 09:39 AM
Id rather have johnson get better and be our QB full time!

That sentence alone makes your whole post null and void

put down the fatty......why do you think they call it dope?;)

And romo is doing a better job?!?!?!?!? I think you sir, need to put down the fatty. If you would please re-read my sentence...i would rather have Johnson get better and have him full time. If johnson gets better, he could handle pressure situations. Romo is just an over paid drama queen. Get a better QB, some WR who dont complain about not getting a pass(and when he gets a pass, drops it) and RB's who dont sit out cuz of a pinkie toe injury!! come on!!

Panther #73
12-30-2008, 09:40 AM
This topic is full of sorry excuses

Fail..



Please leave

Dawg Fan
12-30-2008, 11:37 AM
And romo is doing a better job?!?!?!?!? I think you sir, need to put down the fatty. If you would please re-read my sentence...i would rather have Johnson get better and have him full time. If johnson gets better, he could handle pressure situations. Romo is just an over paid drama queen. Get a better QB, some WR who dont complain about not getting a pass(and when he gets a pass, drops it) and RB's who dont sit out cuz of a pinkie toe injury!! come on!!

dude, Johnson in perfect health is beyond bad. Johnson can't move or throw, other than that I guess he is ok:rolleyes:

break a toe and get back to me, I have done it and it takes a long time to heal and being a running back who runs for a living, it is that much worse. I can't believe you have the gall to call Barbers toughness into question. Have you not watched him run the last two years?

You really need to get a clue

Panther #73
12-30-2008, 12:40 PM
dude, Johnson in perfect health is beyond bad. Johnson can't move or throw, other than that I guess he is ok:rolleyes:

break a toe and get back to me, I have done it and it takes a long time to heal and being a running back who runs for a living, it is that much worse. I can't believe you have the gall to call Barbers toughness into question. Have you not watched him run the last two years?

You really need to get a clue

I broke my big toe and disloacted my shoulder and tore the ligaments around my rotator cuff, and when you moved it forward it came outta socket (thats pain), during the playoffs and i had to have surgery after playoffs in 07. i played through out the whole damn playoffs and didnt complain once. Wrapped my toe and shoulder and played....i think i have more of a clue than you do! And that was in high school! You think being in the NFL they would toughen up! a broken toe hurts but at that level...come on! Like i said, witten played with broken ribs. playing a position where you take shots in the ribs grabbing for the ball!

Ive watched him run! I could see not playing because of a big toe injury or something since alot of the pressure goes on your toes when trying to cut and do the moves he does, but idk. to me it seems like they could of wrapped it up good. thats what the trainers are paid for

hell our left tackle broke his thumb during the temple game. Played every game after that...our center had a shoulder injury requiring surgery!

Its a game of toughness. everybody gets hurt! when your teams needs you the most, thats when you find the hero's

RP-3
12-30-2008, 03:16 PM
Have you seen Romo play in PLAYOFF SITUATIONS!!! obviously he cant get the job done :eek:


So yes! Id rather have Johnson or another QB come in, work on their stuff and get better and be a leader. Romo isnt that guy!


Come on now! Think smart!

Romo might not be the guy but Brad Johnson definitely isn't the guy. The guy has been in the league 17 years. He had a chance when Romo was hurt and he went 1 - 3. Basically he was TERRIBLE.

Panther #73
12-30-2008, 03:23 PM
Romo might not be the guy but Brad Johnson definitely isn't the guy. The guy has been in the league 17 years. He had a chance when Romo was hurt and he went 1 - 3. Basically he was TERRIBLE.

ok well he may not be the guy. i never said he was the the perfect fit for the cowboys. im saying, i would rather have johnson get better at the QB position and get rid of romo. OR fire both johnson and romo and get 2 or 3 better Qb's

DragonFan0316
12-30-2008, 03:27 PM
Last I checked, Romo wasn't playing defense when Baltimore gashed the line 2 consecutive times. Wade is bad but he has only been here 2 years. there is only one common thread. After he rode Jimmy Johnson's wave, Jerry Jones has failed. He is the sole reason the Cowboys don't win in December or during the playoffs. Can't oust the owner though so we better get used to this.

JMSFan
12-30-2008, 04:21 PM
Last I checked, Romo wasn't playing defense when Baltimore gashed the line 2 consecutive times. Wade is bad but he has only been here 2 years. there is only one common thread. After he rode Jimmy Johnson's wave, Jerry Jones has failed. He is the sole reason the Cowboys don't win in December or during the playoffs. Can't oust the owner though so we better get used to this.

Wade is bad. He was winless in playoff games as an HC before he came to Dallas. So now that makes him 0 -4 career in the postseason. He aint getting any better. But then again, the Cowgirls have alot more problems than just Wade.

JMSFan
12-30-2008, 04:53 PM
:notworthy HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

A bigger flop than the Lions this season.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=dw-cowboys122808&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Dawg Fan
12-30-2008, 06:08 PM
I broke my big toe and disloacted my shoulder and tore the ligaments around my rotator cuff, and when you moved it forward it came outta socket (thats pain), during the playoffs and i had to have surgery after playoffs in 07. i played through out the whole damn playoffs and didnt complain once. Wrapped my toe and shoulder and played....i think i have more of a clue than you do! And that was in high school! You think being in the NFL they would toughen up! a broken toe hurts but at that level...come on! Like i said, witten played with broken ribs. playing a position where you take shots in the ribs grabbing for the ball!

Ive watched him run! I could see not playing because of a big toe injury or something since alot of the pressure goes on your toes when trying to cut and do the moves he does, but idk. to me it seems like they could of wrapped it up good. thats what the trainers are paid for

hell our left tackle broke his thumb during the temple game. Played every game after that...our center had a shoulder injury requiring surgery!

Its a game of toughness. everybody gets hurt! when your teams needs you the most, thats when you find the hero's

you are missing the point, you weren't a running back were you? My guess is you were a lineman. Foot injuries are much more magnified when you are a running back because of the stresses you put on the feet when you run, especially when you have to cut. Questioning Barbers toughness is a big mistake IMO. If you have watched him play he deals out the pain. I give him the benefit of the doubt and I challenge you to find any other Cowboy fan on here that would rather have a healthy Johnson over Romo.

Dawg Fan
12-30-2008, 06:11 PM
:notworthy HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

A bigger flop than the Lions this season.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=dw-cowboys122808&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

an article from a nobody at yahoo sports.....:rolleyes:

JMSFan
12-30-2008, 08:27 PM
an article from a nobody at yahoo sports.....:rolleyes:


More credible than a blind sheep. :eek:

Dawg Fan
12-30-2008, 08:33 PM
More credible than a blind sheep. :eek:

show me the article from the blind sheep and we will see:eek:

Rockets8805
12-30-2008, 08:38 PM
I broke my big toe and disloacted my shoulder and tore the ligaments around my rotator cuff, and when you moved it forward it came outta socket (thats pain), during the playoffs and i had to have surgery after playoffs in 07. i played through out the whole damn playoffs and didnt complain once. Wrapped my toe and shoulder and played....i think i have more of a clue than you do! And that was in high school! You think being in the NFL they would toughen up! a broken toe hurts but at that level...come on! Like i said, witten played with broken ribs. playing a position where you take shots in the ribs grabbing for the ball!

Ive watched him run! I could see not playing because of a big toe injury or something since alot of the pressure goes on your toes when trying to cut and do the moves he does, but idk. to me it seems like they could of wrapped it up good. thats what the trainers are paid for

hell our left tackle broke his thumb during the temple game. Played every game after that...our center had a shoulder injury requiring surgery!

Its a game of toughness. everybody gets hurt! when your teams needs you the most, thats when you find the hero's


wow...and for all your supposed toughness, are you playing at the next level??? NO...we can debate our injuries and show our scars all you want, but the fact remains, comparing your so-called playing career with an NFL player's is ********...

SLC
12-30-2008, 09:23 PM
:notworthy HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

A bigger flop than the Lions this season.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=dw-cowboys122808&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Get rid of your avatar.. You are shaming it with every word from your lips.. If you praise him so much, then follow his lead.. He doesnt turn on the Cowboys when they don't succeed.

Panther #73
12-31-2008, 09:13 AM
wow...and for all your supposed toughness, are you playing at the next level??? NO...we can debate our injuries and show our scars all you want, but the fact remains, comparing your so-called playing career with an NFL player's is ********...


Your exactly right! I cant compare myself to a NFL player..he should be alot tougher than me..but obviously not


What i say is my opinion people...get over it

Rockets8805
12-31-2008, 06:23 PM
geez, and u go to Texas State??? Good thing I left...It's getting too much like community college....they let everybody in!

Bottomline
01-13-2009, 04:30 PM
Why do the Cowboys fail every December ? ... One word ... ROMO !:laugh

Dawg Fan
01-13-2009, 05:06 PM
Why do the Cowboys fail every December ? ... One word ... ROMO !:laugh

wrong

Red Storm
01-14-2009, 10:47 AM
George Dunham said it best on Sports Radio 1310 The Ticket this morning...to paraphrase...the problem with the Cowboys is the "structure" of the team. Until that changes, the same old stuff will continue to happen regardless of who the coach is and who the players are.

Then Junior Miller had this stat...the only other teams to have not won a playoff game the last 12 years (since the Cowboys won their last playoff game) are...

Cowboys
Lions
Texans (they have not been around the last 12 years)
Bengals
Chiefs
Bills
Browns

The Dallas Cowboys, arguably the most storied franchise in the history of the NFL is now residing in this neighborhood!

Everyone else in the NFC East has won a playoff game in the last 4 years!

If those last two stats don't make Cowboys fans sick, I don't know what will! It is further proof (not that it is needed) that Jimmy Johnson was the architect behind the Cowboys run in the early 90's. Jerry is nothing, and will continue to be nothing until he steps aside and changes the structure of the team. He is a good owner no doubt, but he could be GREAT again if he'd fire himself as GM.

Maroondog
01-14-2009, 10:58 AM
George Dunham said it best on Sports Radio 1310 The Ticket this morning...to paraphrase...the problem with the Cowboys is the "structure" of the team. Until that changes, the same old stuff will continue to happen regardless of who the coach is and who the players are.

Then Junior Miller had this stat...the only other teams to have not won a playoff game the last 12 years (since the Cowboys won their last playoff game) are...

Cowboys
Lions
Texans (they have not been around the last 12 years)
Bengals
Chiefs
Bills
Browns

The Dallas Cowboys, arguably the most storied franchise in the history of the NFL is now residing in this neighborhood!

Everyone else in the NFC East has won a playoff game in the last 4 years!

If those last two stats don't make Cowboys fans sick, I don't know what will! It is further proof (not that it is needed) that Jimmy Johnson was the architect behind the Cowboys run in the early 90's. Jerry is nothing, and will continue to be nothing until he steps aside and changes the structure of the team. He is a good owner no doubt, but he could be GREAT again if he'd fire himself as GM.

This is spot on. I'm convinced however that Jerry's ego is far too large for any logical assessment of the issue on his part to take place. Therefore, while he is still around, no changes can ever be expected.
Its almost identical to the Raiders dilemma with Al Davis thinking he is still capable of running that franchise.
I said in an earlier post that the worst thing that ever happened to Jerry was lucking out and getting Jimmy, who could coach and evaluate talent, not to mention get the absolute maximum out of players. It somehow made Jerry think he was some sort of great football mind. He continues to live in that fantasy world today.

Bottomline
01-14-2009, 11:07 AM
Yep ... Jerry Jones is the future Al Davis ...

SLC
01-14-2009, 11:10 AM
This is spot on. I'm convinced however that Jerry's ego is far too large for any logical assessment of the issue on his part to take place. Therefore, while he is still around, no changes can ever be expected.
Its almost identical to the Raiders dilemma with Al Davis thinking he is still capable of running that franchise.
I said in an earlier post that the worst thing that ever happened to Jerry was lucking out and getting Jimmy, who could coach and evaluate talent, not to mention get the absolute maximum out of players. It somehow made Jerry think he was some sort of great football mind. He continues to live in that fantasy world today.

Yep.. Jerry fell in love with himself after the Cowboys won the back to back titles, he got jealous of Jimmy getting all the credit and was so in love with himself that he thought he could do it all by his lonesome.. Since Jimmy's team dwindled away, it should be further proof to Jerry that he cant win doing things his way.. He has always been a great business man, but there is a reason he brought in a "football" guy in the beginning.. and the team has suffered after Johnson's departure with their being no "football" guy around. How long will it take Jerry to realize that he must give way to hiring a real "football" GM and go back to being a great owner and business man?.. I dont know, but for the sake of this team and this franchises legacy I hope it is soon.