Question for those that listend to the SLC broadcast

[Phoenixrising05]

I may have heard this wrong: but did anyone else catch Scott Peach (Arlington's head coach - i think) say that it is sound strategy to try and injure your opponent's players out of bounds/after the whistle is blown? He then followed the statement by making it into a mathmetical equation: how many yards lossed by penalty vs knocking said player around enough to get him out of the game. The specific play (I THINK) was a QB keep (McElroy) who got bolted down out of bounds around the Plano 10. Plano was flagged for the late hit. Coach Peach applauded the late hit saying that it was a "smart strategy" since it only cost Plano half the distance to the goal yet could have knocked a key player out of the game. If this is true and he condones this behavior IMHO he should never be allowed to coach another football game in his life. Did I hear any of that wrong I find it hard to believe a HC would be so stupid publicly but I could swear that's what he said.

[dragonfootballfan]

I may have heard this wrong: but did anyone else catch Scott Peach (Arlington's head coach - i think) say that it is sound strategy to try and injure your opponent's players out of bounds/after the whistle is blown? He then followed the statement by making it into a mathmetical equation: how many yards lossed by penalty vs knocking said player around enough to get him out of the game. The specific play (I THINK) was a QB keep (McElroy) who got bolted down out of bounds around the Plano 10. Plano was flagged for the late hit. Coach Peach applauded the late hit saying that it was a "smart strategy" since it only cost Plano half the distance to the goal yet could have knocked a key player out of the game. If this is true and he condones this behavior IMHO he should never be allowed to coach another football game in his life. Did I hear any of that wrong I find it hard to believe a HC would be so stupid publicly but I could swear that's what he said.
I heard something close to that and I never listen that closely and was watching Texas kill Colorado at the same time. I picked up on this and passed it off as a, "What did he just say," comment. I thought other than that one part though that he did a very good job in the booth and if he really thinks that way, he should make the jump to broadcast both now

[Phoenixrising05]

I heard something close to that and I never listen that closely and was watching Texas kill Colorado at the same time. I picked up on this and passed it off as a, "What did he just say," comment. I thought other than that one part though that he did a very good job in the booth and if he really thinks that way, he should make the jump to broadcast both now

Yea he did do a good job the rest of the time..he had some good analysis on Mendoza's halftime adjustments..and he cracked me up regarding the failed 2 pt conversion

[my3sons]

I heard Peach explain the play. I do not believe he said it was"good" strategy, rather it was "a" strategy. Penalties inside the 20 are half the distance to the goal penalties, so yardage lost is not as painful.
On 2 successive late hits by Plano on McElroy they were within the 20. HMMM. Makes you wonder, however, I don't believe the
Plano coaches told their kids to hit late. They are classier than that.:)

[dragonfootballfan]

Yea he did do a good job the rest of the time..he had some good analysis on Mendoza's halftime adjustments..and he cracked me up regarding the failed 2 pt conversion
I thought that he was fantastic. He was much better than Dan Fouts. I do have to say that he may have made that last comment as a joke like, well if you are going to do it now is the time because it is only a half the distance penalty. I do remember though in 2003 in Peach's first year at Arlington High some people saying that Arlington played very dirty and I think Coach Dodge ran the score up a little. My memory is fuzzy from that game, but these too things could be related

[Phoenixrising05]

Well the odd thing was that Coach Peach made the comment about it being a good strategy a 2nd time after the other late hit. And yes it was Arlington that got very very dirty in the 2nd half of a blowout in Arlington that "some" claim Dodge may have run up the score for. I couldn't remember if Peach was their HC or Lamars. I know that he's the son of another Peach who is a HC in the Arlington district.

[dragonfootballfan]

Well the odd thing was that Coach Peach made the comment about it being a good strategy a 2nd time after the other late hit. And yes it was Arlington that got very very dirty in the 2nd half of a blowout in Arlington that "some" claim Dodge may have run up the score for. I couldn't remember if Peach was their HC or Lamars. I know that he's the son of another Peach who is a HC in the Arlington district.
The father is the Coach at Lamar and the son is the coach at Arlington

[dragonsdaddy]

peach is a jack a$$ and definitely needs to be off the air for his comments regarding the soundness of the strategy to take the short penalty while increasing the probability that an opponents qb might be injured. i will see to it that one of the biggest advertisers also lets it be known that sorry aholes like scott peach at least aren't spewing their dirty coaching strategies over the airways. i'm sorry he is actually affecting the lives of teenagers with his moronic ideas.

[Phoenixrising05]

so I guess I heard right? haha

[gwdaddy]

Well stated, DD. Was S. Peach the DC for Arlington Sam in the '02 playoff game? Seems my fuzzy memory recalls some questionable hits from some game he was involved with in addition to that loss of control game against A High in '03.

[PESHfan]

I may have heard this wrong: but did anyone else catch Scott Peach (Arlington's head coach - i think) say that it is sound strategy to try and injure your opponent's players out of bounds/after the whistle is blown? He then followed the statement by making it into a mathmetical equation: how many yards lossed by penalty vs knocking said player around enough to get him out of the game. The specific play (I THINK) was a QB keep (McElroy) who got bolted down out of bounds around the Plano 10. Plano was flagged for the late hit. Coach Peach applauded the late hit saying that it was a "smart strategy" since it only cost Plano half the distance to the goal yet could have knocked a key player out of the game. If this is true and he condones this behavior IMHO he should never be allowed to coach another football game in his life. Did I hear any of that wrong I find it hard to believe a HC would be so stupid publicly but I could swear that's what he said.


I was at the game and didn't hear the broadcast, but I did hear several others talking about the same thing. They were kind of surprised about what he was saying. Was it the OLD or YOUNG Peach that was saying it? I don't remember which Arlington school which one is at?

That is pretty sad for a coach to openly say that deliberate injuries are an ok strategy if the loss of yardage possibly is rewarded for knocking an opponent out of the game. The AD in Arlington needs to have a serious discussion with this guy!

[PawPower]

I may have heard this wrong: but did anyone else catch Scott Peach (Arlington's head coach - i think) say that it is sound strategy to try and injure your opponent's players out of bounds/after the whistle is blown? He then followed the statement by making it into a mathmetical equation: how many yards lossed by penalty vs knocking said player around enough to get him out of the game. The specific play (I THINK) was a QB keep (McElroy) who got bolted down out of bounds around the Plano 10. Plano was flagged for the late hit. Coach Peach applauded the late hit saying that it was a "smart strategy" since it only cost Plano half the distance to the goal yet could have knocked a key player out of the game. If this is true and he condones this behavior IMHO he should never be allowed to coach another football game in his life. Did I hear any of that wrong I find it hard to believe a HC would be so stupid publicly but I could swear that's what he said.

I hope that is not what Coach Peach was saying, but I assure you that Coach Brence of Plano would never instruct a player to do that. A friend's son that played for Brence a few years back was a starter on defense. The father told me that the coach kept his son out of one game as punishment for trash talking an opposing team's player the previous week. Coach Brence has a lot of class and tries to teach the right values. The Plano fans were upset about the late hit and were in agreement with the penalty.

[dragonsdaddy]

I hope that is not what Coach Peach was saying, but I assure you that Coach Brence of Plano would never instruct a player to do that. A friend's son that played for Brence a few years back was a starter on defense. The father told me that the coach kept his son out of one game as punishment for trash talking an opposing team's player the previous week. Coach Brence has a lot of class and tries to teach the right values. The Plano fans were upset about the late hit and were in agreement with the penalty.
no one is blaming plano for anything except exuberence. they play the game the way it is supposed to be played.

[my3sons]

Plano played a great game. I spoke with the SLC linebackers after the game and they all said the game was the most physical of the year. Plano played and hit hard. They are the best opponent of the year. The game could have gone either way. SLC stopping Plano on their 4th down conversion attempt was huge. SLC linebacker Padron drilled the Plano QB for a loss.

[toonman]

Any coach of any sport suggesting that a player goes out to intentionally injure another player, should not be coaching and if proven, that coach should, at the very least, be suspended.

[JagDad07]

Let's not get all high and mighty here. The intentional personal foul is something most every coach thinks about and, on occasion, does on purpose. It's sort of like throwing at guys in baseball - you would never admit to doing it, but it happens.

So Coach Peach saying it on the radio is pretty dumb.

I can't believe a coach would ever want to intentionally hurt someone, but take an intentional personal foul - oh yeah, that happens.

[my3sons]

Yesterday's game against Plano WAS physical. There were a few scuffles and a bit of taunting on both sides. However, I'm still not convinced that Peach advocated late hitting just to knock out the opposition's QB. There are late hits every game and most aren't intentional.

[TigerHat]

Let's not get all high and mighty here. The intentional personal foul is something most every coach thinks about and, on occasion, does on purpose. It's sort of like throwing at guys in baseball - you would never admit to doing it, but it happens.

So Coach Peach saying it on the radio is pretty dumb.

I can't believe a coach would ever want to intentionally hurt someone, but take an intentional personal foul - oh yeah, that happens.

That is exactly the sort of thinking that makes "most every coach" a loser. The coaches of great teams and the fans of those teams don't condone that sort of behavior. Injuries are part of sports, deliberately injuring an opposing team's player is not part of sports, any more than any other form of cheating is part of sports. Cheating is not a part of sports for the same reason that a bird dropping on the hood of your car is not part of the car.

Sadly, there are coaches who will set out to deliberately injure another team's player. Deliberately injuring another team's player is not just against the spirit of the game, it is a felony. Contributing to the delinquency of a minor is a felony. A coach conspiring with his players to deliberately injure another team's player is committing a felony.. The organized criminal activity that results from such a conspiracy is a Federal felony under the RICO act. This is very serious business, not something to be tolerated with a wink and a nod.

I will venture the guess that you personally have never won a state or national championship in any sport, at any level, and have no clue what it takes to do so. I have done both. Neither I nor the previous poster are "getting all high and mighty" , we are expressing the common views that winners everywhere hold. You on the other hand have unintentionally expressed quite well the attitudes that make a loser what he is.

[Phoenixrising05]

At no point was I implying that the Plano HC advocated the late hits. I think through the course of the game if that was his intention there would have been many more personal fouls. At least on the radio it sounded like a very cleanly (albeit physically!) played game. Does anyone know if the KKGM broadcast was recorded? I'd be interested in reviewing excatly what Scott Peach said.

[lufkin_82]

I may have heard this wrong: but did anyone else catch Scott Peach (Arlington's head coach - i think) say that it is sound strategy to try and injure your opponent's players out of bounds/after the whistle is blown? He then followed the statement by making it into a mathmetical equation: how many yards lossed by penalty vs knocking said player around enough to get him out of the game. The specific play (I THINK) was a QB keep (McElroy) who got bolted down out of bounds around the Plano 10. Plano was flagged for the late hit. Coach Peach applauded the late hit saying that it was a "smart strategy" since it only cost Plano half the distance to the goal yet could have knocked a key player out of the game. If this is true and he condones this behavior IMHO he should never be allowed to coach another football game in his life. Did I hear any of that wrong I find it hard to believe a HC would be so stupid publicly but I could swear that's what he said.
thats just sad. coaches are supposed to look after the well-being of players. you never want a player to get hurt intentionally... he'll eventually have to face the man in the mirror if he keeps thinkin like that

[PACK]

I listened to the broadcast over the net and I was confused when that statement was made. I thought I had missed something setting up the conversation or explanation. Guess not and I heard it right. What a bum!
As well, he had plenty to say about Coach Outlaw from Lufkin being selfish about the home home flip. He really spewed on that one to a point where it was just down right sorry.
Texas HS football has a lot of great coaches teaching kids not only a sport but many life lessons to carry with them after HS. Probably one of the most influenteul people these kids will ever have. I can't think of two better than Outlaw and Dodge. Their programs speak that clearly. I understand that radio stations are totally separate from the schools, but that guy does not need to be representing SLC which clearly is head and shoulders above this guy.
Oh well! 7 days left. Whose ready?
We Ready!

[SLC Dragon Fan]

I listened to the broadcast over the net and I was confused when that statement was made. I thought I had missed something setting up the conversation or explanation. Guess not and I heard it right. What a bum!
As well, he had plenty to say about Coach Outlaw from Lufkin being selfish about the home home flip. He really spewed on that one to a point where it was just down right sorry.
Texas HS football has a lot of great coaches teaching kids not only a sport but many life lessons to carry with them after HS. Probably one of the most influenteul people these kids will ever have. I can't think of two better than Outlaw and Dodge. Their programs speak that clearly. I understand that radio stations are totally separate from the schools, but that guy does not need to be representing SLC which clearly is head and shoulders above this guy.
Oh well! 7 days left. Whose ready?
We Ready!

Trust me. Scott Peach doesn't represent SLC. He's the coach at Arlington so doesn't normally do radio on SLC games. His Arlington team played about the dirtiest game I've seen against SLC in the last 4 years. We were blowing them out in a playoff game in 2003 and there were late hits and cheap shots happening almost every play once the game got out of hand. Dodge ran the score up a little in that one to get back at him. It's hard to believe he's the son of Eddy Peach, one of the classiest coaches in the state.

[GoOwls]

I listened to the whole broadcast at work. He even said that even if the team scored because of the late hit, that it was worth the chance to take the QB out for the rest of the game. I was shocked.

[JagDad07]

The coaches of great teams and the fans of those teams don't condone that sort of behavior. You're being naive.

Deliberately injuring an opposing team's player is not part of sports, any more than any other form of cheating is part of sports. I agree.

[dragonfootballfan]

I found it humerous that several posters on this thread who speak against this evil are supporters of teams that are coached by guys who regularly push the envelope on what is unsportsmanlike conduct. That is the only reason I chimed in in the first place. I'm not, nor did I ever, condone anything. I merely pointed out fact - a fact that is true for most, if not all of you.
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[JagDad07]

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I edited my response. I'd rather not get into it. I was mistaken about who had posted earlier - I have never been on the sideline for a SLC or Plano game.

[dragonsdaddy]

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