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seansvranger
12-03-2005, 07:07 PM
sv VS katy round 2 so i would hope sv will take this game and now that katy has been tested i know its gonna be a good game.
svrangers42
12-03-2005, 07:30 PM
SV's playing on a high right now, thier offense is rolling and our defense has been superb in the second half in the playoffs.
SV 35 Katy 21
XSVRanger
12-03-2005, 07:33 PM
SV has been rolling. Katy didn't play well today but the way they came back late in the fourth should tell you something about their character. It's gonna be a great game.
theloneranger
12-03-2005, 07:35 PM
sv VS katy round 2 so i would hope sv will take this game and now that katy has been tested i know its gonna be a good game.
I would'nt be so sure of that sean. The so called "Best KATY team EVER" really got rocked by a not so good team. Werent they favored by 20 something points?? They really didnt play like it. SV wasnt supposed to win district let alone win the region. Yall guys get ready the RANGER TRAIN rollin to H-town......................and after the game, when everything is said and DONE KATY"S gonna think that they were in HOLLYWOOD because there going to be seeing nothin but STARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BOOYA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
XSVRanger
12-03-2005, 07:38 PM
I would'nt be so sure of that sean. The so called "Best KATY team EVER" really got rocked by a not so good team. Werent they favored by 20 something points?? They really didnt play like it. SV wasnt supposed to win district let alone win the region. Yall guys get ready the RANGER TRAIN rollin to H-town......................and after the game, when everything is said and DONE there's gonna think that they were in HOLLYWOOD because there going to be seeing nothin but STARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BOOYA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Niiiiiiice
KTBkid09
12-03-2005, 07:48 PM
yes katy might not of played so well but cy falls played an outstanding game.
Gridiron Gopher
12-03-2005, 07:48 PM
SV wasnt supposed to win district let alone win the region.
While I'm a big 265a fan, your statement "SV wasn't supposed to win district let alone win the region" is wrong. Most site's if not all had SV winning the district. Judson fans were all saying you had to beat the district Champ before you could go around saying you were the champ.
Again, being a 265a fan (my son goes to MacArthur) it's been a lot of fun watching the teams from 265a show how GREAT this district is. SV is the class of 265a this year and they deserve it.
salsashark
12-03-2005, 07:54 PM
I would'nt be so sure of that sean. The so called "Best KATY team EVER" really got rocked by a not so good team. Werent they favored by 20 something points?? They really didnt play like it. SV wasnt supposed to win district let alone win the region. Yall guys get ready the RANGER TRAIN rollin to H-town......................and after the game, when everything is said and DONE KATY"S gonna think that they were in HOLLYWOOD because there going to be seeing nothin but STARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BOOYA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And so it begins. Let us take last weeks trash out before we start piling up this weeks on top of it.
theloneranger
12-03-2005, 07:56 PM
And so it begins. Let us take last weeks trash out before we start piling up this weeks on top of it.
Its football, what can I say:p
rellufnalla
12-03-2005, 08:06 PM
tigers at tully at two
be there
svranger6104
12-03-2005, 08:46 PM
the SV vs KATY game will be another slugfest between two teams that always put out great teams every year. last time we played katy we won i think we will again but it will be a very close game each team will bring their A- game. i played on the sv team that beat them in '02 they are well coached just like sv. two teams that have a tradition of winning.
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THE PRIDE AND WINNING TRADITION OF RANGER FOOTBALL WILL NOT BE ENTRUSTED TO THE WEAK AND TIMID!
TigerHat
12-03-2005, 08:53 PM
Here is my questions for all the Smithson Valley fans and players. Since your team has drawn the automatic bye game in the semis, which team do you think you will be playing in the finals, SLC or Lufkin?
Here is my questions for all the Smithson Valley fans and players. Since your team has drawn the automatic bye game in the semis, which team do you think you will be playing in the finals, SLC or Lufkin?
Just fans excited about playing in the semis. Nobody said it was going to be a bye. Lighten up.
TigerHat
12-03-2005, 08:58 PM
No seriously, SLC or Lufkin?
Rerun
12-03-2005, 09:01 PM
lets Go Rangers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Good Ole Boys Will Win Again Next Weekend!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TigerV1
12-03-2005, 09:04 PM
Well, crap, since SV already has Katy figured out and well since Katy had one bad game (didn't SV have one?) we might as well go ahead and plan on a big fat L for Katy. One thing I learned from this weekend is that the team that wants it the most will take it. It doesn't matter if this is the so called "Greatest Katy team ever" or if "SV is playing their best game right now," the team that wants it the most will take it.
But hey, since you say Katy basically was tested and they showed they can barely beat a 3rd ranked team (3rd in their district) then maybe we should just give up. :rolleyes:
No seriously, SLC or Lufkin?
Ok, SLC then.
exbearkat
12-03-2005, 09:20 PM
Katy will come to play, trust me. Unlike the '02 game, KT won't be looking past the Rangers this time. You'll see. ;)
TigerHat
12-03-2005, 09:23 PM
Take a look at the Max Preps rankings; they tell the whole story. Not only is Smithson Valley ranked way above Katy, but Katy is barely ahead of a 2A team. Next week's game will be a cake walk for Smithson Valley after playing 26-5A teams. So, once again, who do you expect to play in the finals, SLC or Lufkin?
TigerHat
12-03-2005, 09:46 PM
Ok, SLC then.
Sorry, I didn't see your post. I have to agree, especialy since the Lufkin quarterback broke his arm in last night's game. However, the Lufkin backup is a great athlete and he played really well when the starter went down, so I don't think that Lufkin is a lost cause. I would guess the probability is 55% SLC - 45% Lufkin. What do you think?
[QUOTE=svranger6104]the SV vs KATY game will be another slugfest between two teams that always put out great teams every year. last time we played katy we won i think we will again but it will be a very close game each team will bring their A- game. i played on the sv team that beat them in '02 they are well coached just like sv. two teams that have a tradition of winning.QUOTE]
Whoever brings their A+ game will win.:D
Two consistently excellent programs.
AZTiger
12-03-2005, 10:42 PM
the SV vs KATY game will be another slugfest between two teams that always put out great teams every year. last time we played katy we won i think we will again but it will be a very close game each team will bring their A- game. i played on the sv team that beat them in '02 they are well coached just like sv. two teams that have a tradition of winning.
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THE PRIDE AND WINNING TRADITION OF RANGER FOOTBALL WILL NOT BE ENTRUSTED TO THE WEAK AND TIMID!
great post, except for the bolded part ;)
Smithson Valley fans can start praying that Lufkin finds a way to beat SLC next week if they expect to beat Katy. The last thing they want to see is SLC again.
The posters on this board have already weighed in with their opinions - a SLC v. SV rematch is the least wanted matchup of all the possibilities.
MRmaverick
12-03-2005, 11:08 PM
I would'nt be so sure of that sean. The so called "Best KATY team EVER" really got rocked by a not so good team. Werent they favored by 20 something points?? They really didnt play like it. SV wasnt supposed to win district let alone win the region. Yall guys get ready the RANGER TRAIN rollin to H-town......................and after the game, when everything is said and DONE KATY"S gonna think that they were in HOLLYWOOD because there going to be seeing nothin but STARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BOOYA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by a not so good cy falls team
o ok
you are talking about a game you werent at and a team youve never seen play so how do you know cy falls wasnt good.
MRmaverick
12-03-2005, 11:10 PM
lets Go Rangers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Good Ole Boys Will Win Again Next Weekend!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cocky arent we cant wait to see u lose
MRmaverick
12-03-2005, 11:12 PM
lol tigerhat your hilarious
XSVRanger
12-03-2005, 11:21 PM
Yall guys get ready the RANGER TRAIN rollin to H-town
Chugga Chugga CHOO CHOO!!!!!
I made this point last week and I am going to make it again. By the time Region 3 teams make it to the Semi-Finals, they are drained. The region 3 teams aren't able to play the teams from Harlingen, Laredo, and El Paso. The region 4 teams are not as banged up and are fresher. Now you still have to give them credit because they are winning the games they are suppose to. If Judson would of had the same road as Westfield they probably wouldn't be in the title game. Smithson Valley is the same way. It's the 5th round before they are tested. Look at Austin Westlake, they haven't made their runs since they left Region 4. Looks like Region 2 is a little tougher for them. Regions 1 & 4 have good teams, but as a whole regions 2 & 3 are have more quality programs. Now with all this said, no team has control over what regions they play in. So, you have to give these Programs credit for their successes. Congrats and good luck to all teams still playing!
seansvranger
12-04-2005, 12:25 AM
I made this point last week and I am going to make it again. By the time Region 3 teams make it to the Semi-Finals, they are drained. The region 3 teams aren't able to play the teams from Harlingen, Laredo, and El Paso. The region 4 teams are not as banged up and are fresher. Now you still have to give them credit because they are winning the games they are suppose to. If Judson would of had the same road as Westfield they probably wouldn't be in the title game. Smithson Valley is the same way. It's the 5th round before they are tested. Look at Austin Westlake, they haven't made their runs since they left Region 4. Looks like Region 2 is a little tougher for them. Regions 1 & 4 have good teams, but as a whole regions 2 & 3 are have more quality programs. Now with all this said, no team has control over what regions they play in. So, you have to give these Programs credit for their successes. Congrats and good luck to all teams still playing!
they are tested they come from 26-5a the hardest district in texas but i do completly agree with the last 5 or 6 sentances
ftballin11
12-04-2005, 12:40 AM
Please tell me that SV has a train at their games too... Saying Cy Falls is a "not so good team" makes you sound dumber than you truly are. Cy Falls may have barely pulled the games out leading up to this one against teams that should have been stomped, but I can guarantee you were not at the game to see Cy Falls play. Very fast team that put constant pressure on Dalton. The passing game almost killed Katy because CF was dominating on run defense. SV did not look fast enough. They were constantly burned by Madison recievers, but due to a few "under par" passes, Madison couldn't take full advantage of those oppertunities. Madison was down by 14 in the 3rd quarter and had a chance to come within 7 on a wide open reciever downfield. Due to a severe underthrow by the Madison QB SV intercepted it and that is what put the game away and killed Madison. Madison WR were open MANY times downfield but took advantage of it less than half the time. SV D-line did not look too big and secondary did not look fast enough to keep up with a speed gifted reciever.(or they just simply didn't see the reciever run right by them) SV seemed to love throwing it to their TE's backs, and WR's all on short routes. Didn't see them go over the top too often. SV looks like a Katy, but surprisingly, I'd say Katy has more talent in this matchup.
Attempt # IV
12-04-2005, 12:56 AM
I made this point last week and I am going to make it again. By the time Region 3 teams make it to the Semi-Finals, they are drained. The region 3 teams aren't able to play the teams from Harlingen, Laredo, and El Paso. The region 4 teams are not as banged up and are fresher. Now you still have to give them credit because they are winning the games they are suppose to. If Judson would of had the same road as Westfield they probably wouldn't be in the title game. Smithson Valley is the same way. It's the 5th round before they are tested. Look at Austin Westlake, they haven't made their runs since they left Region 4. Looks like Region 2 is a little tougher for them. Regions 1 & 4 have good teams, but as a whole regions 2 & 3 are have more quality programs. Now with all this said, no team has control over what regions they play in. So, you have to give these Programs credit for their successes. Congrats and good luck to all teams still playing!
what an excuse... haha not this year especially. ummm, again, WHO has katy played? who has SV played? madison was ranked like 67th in the nation or somthing like that and sv manhandled them, and cy falls, altho i know nothing about them, were probebly 67th in the state and almost pulled an upset! Especially after a 6-4 playoff start. SV played in 265a... katy was with teams like alief teams and taylor maid creek and cinco. but no, to say sv was more worn would be a crime. Sv is more battle tested playing MUCH better tems, and not to mention playing MORE games (sv 13-1...katy 13-0)
Attempt # IV
12-04-2005, 12:59 AM
Please tell me that SV has a train at their games too... Saying Cy Falls is a "not so good team" makes you sound dumber than you truly are. Cy Falls may have barely pulled the games out leading up to this one against teams that should have been stomped, but I can guarantee you were not at the game to see Cy Falls play. Very fast team that put constant pressure on Dalton. The passing game almost killed Katy because CF was dominating on run defense. SV did not look fast enough. They were constantly burned by Madison recievers, but due to a few "under par" passes, Madison couldn't take full advantage of those oppertunities. Madison was down by 14 in the 3rd quarter and had a chance to come within 7 on a wide open reciever downfield. Due to a severe underthrow by the Madison QB SV intercepted it and that is what put the game away and killed Madison. Madison WR were open MANY times downfield but took advantage of it less than half the time. SV D-line did not look too big and secondary did not look fast enough to keep up with a speed gifted reciever.(or they just simply didn't see the reciever run right by them) SV seemed to love throwing it to their TE's backs, and WR's all on short routes. Didn't see them go over the top too often. SV looks like a Katy, but surprisingly, I'd say Katy has more talent in this matchup.
ad as for you, sv may not be "fast enough" for your liking, but whos still playing come the 10th? *cough* cy falls equiptment turn in *cough*
KT2000
12-04-2005, 01:00 AM
Anyone that doesn't think this (Katy-SV) will be a heavyweight fight is seriously misinformed. Tully should be rocking on Saturday.
ftballin11
12-04-2005, 01:01 AM
I am definately not from Cy Falls... so I personally agree with the liking of the equipment turn in ;)
ftballin11
12-04-2005, 01:02 AM
Anyone that doesn't think this (Katy-SV) will be a heavyweight fight is seriously misinformed. Tully should be rocking on Saturday.
No doubt about it ;) You attending?
KT2000
12-04-2005, 01:04 AM
Heck yes.
MRmaverick
12-04-2005, 01:05 AM
what an excuse... haha not this year especially. ummm, again, WHO has katy played? who has SV played? madison was ranked like 67th in the nation or somthing like that and sv manhandled them, and cy falls, altho i know nothing about them, were probebly 67th in the state and almost pulled an upset! Especially after a 6-4 playoff start. SV played in 265a... katy was with teams like alief teams and taylor maid creek and cinco. but no, to say sv was more worn would be a crime. Sv is more battle tested playing MUCH better tems, and not to mention playing MORE games (sv 13-1...katy 13-0)
whats your point 19-5a was down this year and one game isnt going to make a difference. if cy falls was 67th in the state then they wouldnt of still been playing. 3 years ago 19-5a was the power district with elsik, hastings and katy so dont bash the teams in the district. its one down year it doesnt make katy any worse. And yes b/c sv has played tougher teams they are worn down
ftballin11
12-04-2005, 01:08 AM
That's what I like to hear. Anyone give me a good reason as in why SV didn't completely PACK that stadium? The max attendance on that stadium is 11,000 and SV still didn't fill their side, which is rare on that size of a stadium for SV. I saw a total of one full section nearly empty(with the exception of maybe 20 fans scattered throughout there)
Attempt # IV
12-04-2005, 01:17 AM
whats your point 19-5a was down this year and one game isnt going to make a difference. if cy falls was 67th in the state then they wouldnt of still been playing. 3 years ago 19-5a was the power district with elsik, hastings and katy so dont bash the teams in the district. its one down year it doesnt make katy any worse. And yes b/c sv has played tougher teams they are worn down
haha im not bashing the 2002 195a teams, just the 2005 195a teams besides katy! and those last 2 sentences totally contradict what u said in your last post. you said that reg. 3 teams are more worn because they play harder teams, then you say sv is more worn because it played harder teams? where the other region 3 hard teams at, i would like to know?! and if u think just because cy made it to the 4th round means they cant be 67th.... i guess that means all the valley teams in the playoffs are automatically ranked above the #4 teams in other strong districts. and according to how you rank, that would make last years clear lake team that beat katy and go into the final 4 automatically top 4 teams in the state right?
Pancake
12-04-2005, 01:23 AM
KATY you are not worthy - after all THEY are 26-5a... Katy you have no chance, don't you read the posts.... 26-5a rules. This will be a blow out - already looking forward to SV vs. SLC:D
Attempt # IV
12-04-2005, 01:25 AM
you too? glad someone else feels the way i do!:p
ftballin11
12-04-2005, 01:30 AM
Nice basis of reasoning. I don't see one reason or claim. Have you watched a Katy game this year? These 2 teams are the exact same, and I'm sorry but the district you're in does not give you the upperhand 4 rounds into the playoffs.
Pancake
12-04-2005, 02:00 AM
Nice basis of reasoning. I don't see one reason or claim. Have you watched a Katy game this year? These 2 teams are the exact same, and I'm sorry but the district you're in does not give you the upperhand 4 rounds into the playoffs.
YES IT DOES. Don't u read the message boards? and - Nope - I haven't watched a single Katy game or SV game for that matter. I do however read the 5a texas football.com message boards and listen to a game or two on TSRN. After carefull consideration of reviewing the posts and radio banter, I conclude that KATY has no chance. 26 - 5a is da bomb! Looking forward to an all SA championship - Judson and SV!!!!
SVLOI83
12-04-2005, 03:16 AM
SV did not look fast enough. They were constantly burned by Madison recievers, but due to a few "under par" passes, Madison couldn't take full advantage of those oppertunities. Madison was down by 14 in the 3rd quarter and had a chance to come within 7 on a wide open reciever downfield. Due to a severe underthrow by the Madison QB SV intercepted it and that is what put the game away and killed Madison. Madison WR were open MANY times downfield but took advantage of it less than half the time. SV D-line did not look too big and secondary did not look fast enough to keep up with a speed gifted reciever.(or they just simply didn't see the reciever run right by them) SV seemed to love throwing it to their TE's backs, and WR's all on short routes. Didn't see them go over the top too often. SV looks like a Katy, but surprisingly, I'd say Katy has more talent in this matchup.
you crack me up man. the reason caflisch couldnt get the ball down the field is because its hard to throw the ball when you are lying on the back of your head looking up at 5 or 6 defenders jumping up and down after you just got dropped for a 8yd loss. And you mentioned SV's d-line didnt look that big?? what about madison's d-line? not a single one of madison's defensive linemen was bigger than SV's. last thing..."Sv didnt seem to go over the top too often". every pass to a TE was over the top, clay fuller had 2 td's over the top, Stephen Hall had a reception over the top....point is, SV has a very balanced offense, if they need to air the ball out, they will, if they want to grind the ball down the field, they will, if they want to drop short passes into pockets in the coverage, they will, the best thing SV can accomplish is putting a running and passing game together (afterall its easy to play the run or pass, but very hard to do both). fundamentally sound, error free football, and capitalizing on the other team's mistakes is how SV gets it done
'nough said.
aritcle from the SA express news (says it all)
http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/hssports/football/stories/MYSA120405.7C.COL.FBHflores.smithson.2a382f0.html
sendero
12-04-2005, 06:58 AM
Smithson Valley fans can start praying that Lufkin finds a way to beat SLC next week if they expect to beat Katy. The last thing they want to see is SLC again.
The posters on this board have already weighed in with their opinions - a SLC v. SV rematch is the least wanted matchup of all the possibilities.
WOW. Maybe they should forfeit. The posters usually determine who plays next:)
ranger
12-04-2005, 08:29 AM
Every team seems to have one flat game during the season. Katy showed it's heart and came back to win. Didn't SV have a bad game this year or are they actually 13-0? I thought they lost a game this season. Maybe I am wrong.
rangerpride
12-04-2005, 08:55 AM
SV did not look fast enough. They were constantly burned by Madison recievers, but due to a few "under par" passes, Madison couldn't take full advantage of those oppertunities. Madison was down by 14 in the 3rd quarter and had a chance to come within 7 on a wide open reciever downfield. Due to a severe underthrow by the Madison QB SV intercepted it and that is what put the game away and killed Madison. Madison WR were open MANY times downfield but took advantage of it less than half the time. SV D-line did not look too big and secondary did not look fast enough to keep up with a speed gifted reciever.(or they just simply didn't see the reciever run right by them) SV seemed to love throwing it to their TE's backs, and WR's all on short routes. Didn't see them go over the top too often. SV looks like a Katy, but surprisingly, I'd say Katy has more talent in this matchup.
First of all, SV has one of the best "shut-down corners" in 5A in Andrew Sendejo. Turst me he is FAST ENOUGH! Their defense is predicated on SPEED not "being big." So if you're saying SV's D-Line didn't look very big, you're right. They NEVER look big! SV doesn't want some lard*ss who has no mobility playing nose tackle. The few lard*sses we have, are playing on the O-line or cheering from the sideline. SV always put small, fast, and QUICK guys on the D-line that can squeeze through gaps or get around the other teams slow lard*sses on the O-line before they can get ahold of our jerseys and stand us up. Just ask SLC if our D-line was big last year and if it made a difference that they were "small." Chase Daniels was hit and/or flushed out more in that game than any other playoff game, and it was a bunch of small D-line guys and linebackers that did it.
I really hope (for Katy's sake) that those big O-linemen of yours that supposed average about 270 have some quickness too, or Katy's running game will suffer as they wonder why thier "big boys" can't block our "little midgets" on the D-line. You thought Cy Falls did a good job of shutting downt he run, you ain't seen nothing yet!
As saying SV doesn't throw the ball down the field is ludicrous. The first time SV played Madison, their first touchdown was a deep route down the sideline to Clay Fuller for a 38 yard touchdown. They throw a lot of over the middle and sideline routes. If you're thinking they run a West Coast offense (short passes) your are WRONG! We DO utilize all eligible receivers, not just 1 or 2 stud WR's like Katy does. We throw to TE's on playaction passes, we throw to back out of the backfield, to the Tailback and WR on screen plays, and to WR's on comeback routes as well as deep and crossing routes. Our offense keeps you guessing and by scouting his own team statistically, Coach Hill makes sure he never becomes too predictable in his play calling.
As for Madison undethrowing the ball to "wide open receivers," like anothe poster siad, it might have something to do with the fact that our entire D-line was breathing down Caflisch's neck all day long, but they're just a bunch of small guys, so he should be able to throw over them right?:rolleyes:
What KILLED Madison was halftime adjustments, just like the last time we played them. Coach Hill and Coach Mocygemba are the kings of halftime adjustments. Yesterday, they came out and scored 24 unanswered points. When we played them in district, it was the same story, 3 straight touchdowns after halftime, none allowed. Same vs. Churchill. Down 14-0, Churchill doesn't score in the 2nd half, we lose 14-7 (our only loss, to a great Churchill Defense) Go back and look at all our 3rd quarters in the box scores throughout the playoffs and you'll see that is when SV starts to DOMINATE football games.
I have alot of respect for Katy's program, but I think even though we beat them in 2002, they still do not respect us because they think we are smaller and slower and a bunch of country boys could never beat the almighty Katy Tigers. I hope next weekend changes the opinions of alot of people win or lose, the Rangers will bring their "A+ Game."
I get good laughs when I see people talking about Katy's (or anyone else's) teams strenghts and weaknesses when they have seen them play once or not at all. Usually pretty inaccurate.
Both of these teams are well coached and will be prepared.
My only prediction - close, with the team that makes the fewest mistakes advancing.
Okay, I was talking about the Playoffs, when I said that Region 4 teams were fresher and not as banged up come Semi-Final time. I don't think anyone would argue that 26-5A is a tough district. After district is where they have it easier the 1st 3 to 4 weeks.(Depending on DIV 1 or 2) The Region 3 teams are mentally and physically drained by the time the make it out of Region 3. There is no doubt that these teams have a tougher road. Again when it's all said and done, you can't take anything away from the teams from any Region. If they win the games their suppose to then they deserve any Championship they attain.
JackHandey_98
12-04-2005, 10:39 AM
Okay, I was talking about the Playoffs, when I said that Region 4 teams were fresher and not as banged up come Semi-Final time. I don't think anyone would argue that 26-5A is a tough district. After district is where they have it easier the 1st 3 to 4 weeks.(Depending on DIV 1 or 2) The Region 3 teams are mentally and physically drained by the time the make it out of Region 3. There is no doubt that these teams have a tougher road. Again when it's all said and done, you can't take anything away from the teams from any Region. If they win the games their suppose to then they deserve any Championship they attain.
I still dont understand the excuses coming out this early. Ill put any of SVs playoff opponents up against any of Katys playoff opponents any day. San Marcos, Jay, Madison and even Laredo United are all quality opponents and would of been playing Katy this week in the region champ game. Katy is an awesome team.....They had a bad game and overcame it....This game was the best thing to happen for Katy they needed to have their cages ratteled, so theyll be ready. SV has just shut down quality opponents and really dominated field position and thats what I see happening again Sat.
SVite
12-04-2005, 10:54 AM
Smithson Valley fans can start praying that Lufkin finds a way to beat SLC next week if they expect to beat Katy. The last thing they want to see is SLC again.
The posters on this board have already weighed in with their opinions - a SLC v. SV rematch is the least wanted matchup of all the possibilities.
Well comming from you that means nothing!
SVite
12-04-2005, 11:04 AM
I made this point last week and I am going to make it again. By the time Region 3 teams make it to the Semi-Finals, they are drained. The region 3 teams aren't able to play the teams from Harlingen, Laredo, and El Paso. The region 4 teams are not as banged up and are fresher. Now you still have to give them credit because they are winning the games they are suppose to. If Judson would of had the same road as Westfield they probably wouldn't be in the title game. Smithson Valley is the same way. It's the 5th round before they are tested. Look at Austin Westlake, they haven't made their runs since they left Region 4. Looks like Region 2 is a little tougher for them. Regions 1 & 4 have good teams, but as a whole regions 2 & 3 are have more quality programs. Now with all this said, no team has control over what regions they play in. So, you have to give these Programs credit for their successes. Congrats and good luck to all teams still playing!
so katys state championships were ALL flukes!!!And Also,who has gotten katy tired at all this year?The Katy posters have said it plenty,that their second ,and third stringers have played a bunch this play off season.Is katy wore out,was westfield wore out?let the excuses start from poor little region 3 that has all the talent,the best programs.........NOT!
SVite
12-04-2005, 11:22 AM
Please tell me that SV has a train at their games too... Saying Cy Falls is a "not so good team" makes you sound dumber than you truly are. Cy Falls may have barely pulled the games out leading up to this one against teams that should have been stomped, but I can guarantee you were not at the game to see Cy Falls play. Very fast team that put constant pressure on Dalton. The passing game almost killed Katy because CF was dominating on run defense. SV did not look fast enough. They were constantly burned by Madison recievers, but due to a few "under par" passes, Madison couldn't take full advantage of those oppertunities. Madison was down by 14 in the 3rd quarter and had a chance to come within 7 on a wide open reciever downfield. Due to a severe underthrow by the Madison QB SV intercepted it and that is what put the game away and killed Madison. Madison WR were open MANY times downfield but took advantage of it less than half the time. SV D-line did not look too big and secondary did not look fast enough to keep up with a speed gifted reciever.(or they just simply didn't see the reciever run right by them) SV seemed to love throwing it to their TE's backs, and WR's all on short routes. Didn't see them go over the top too often. SV looks like a Katy, but surprisingly, I'd say Katy has more talent in this matchup.
where have you been?Every one has more talent than SV every year!madison at last count is now 0-4 against those no talent SVers.Katy faces the best team of 26 5A next week.The 3rd place team took out the mighty Westfielders.SV blows out the 2nd place team in 26 5.Get ready Katy for a well balanced no talent team!
poppy
12-04-2005, 11:22 AM
sv 40 kaTY 14
HOW'S THAT SV FANS...
KATY CAN'T TIE SV'S SHOES...
KATY HAS A WEAK DEFENSE....
THE QB HAS ONLY THROWN 40 TD PASSES..
HE HAD HIS WORST GAME OF THE YEAR VS CY FALLS
AND STILL THREW OVER 50% COMPLETE AND
OVER 300 YRDS AND 4 TD PASSES...
:p
JackHandey_98
12-04-2005, 11:34 AM
SV fans are saying theyre not talented?
Katy fans say theyll get blown out?
Why dont yall start trashing each other instead of whining about who gets no respect. This coming from two of the most respected programs in the state.
So, why hasn't Austin Westlake been doing as well since they left Region 4?
KTFURB
12-04-2005, 12:34 PM
Rangerpride...if you think Katy's passing game is limited to the deep threat receivers you've lost crediblity in persuading people you know something about the Katy offensive scheme. Katy is the original spread it out to all receivers offense. Only this year have we truly had the exceptional deep route receivers. Look for the tightends and fullbacks to show up in the stat sheet as they always have in the past.
KT2000
12-04-2005, 12:34 PM
Region 2 is a tougher bracket, but I believe the best teams in Region 4 can compete with anyone. I think it's safe to say they've proven that.
Neither Katy or SV should scramble to claim the underdog role in this one. At this point, anyone left has the capability to take it all. It'll be about who can make the fewest mistakes and best execute their game plan as always.
KTFURB
12-04-2005, 12:50 PM
I still dont understand the excuses coming out this early. Ill put any of SVs playoff opponents up against any of Katys playoff opponents any day. San Marcos, Jay, Madison and even Laredo United are all quality opponents and would of been playing Katy this week in the region champ game. Katy is an awesome team.....They had a bad game and overcame it....This game was the best thing to happen for Katy they needed to have their cages ratteled, so theyll be ready. SV has just shut down quality opponents and really dominated field position and thats what I see happening again Sat.
If you truly believe that Laredo United or Jay could have made it to the reg. 3 finals you have been watching inferior football,because your frame of reference is skewed. The valley teams almost never make it to the semis...and for good reason. The play an inferior level of football. The idea that a valley team could be competetive in the Houston area is absurd. Most posters only see football in their area and thus feel that if their team dominates that area surely they must be outstanding. 265A is a strong district, but its the only strong district, by statewide comparison, in the SA area. The other SA district sometimes has good teams but, the remainder of the region is WEAK. Most no better than the inner city districts in Houston. To think that Laredo United could compete in the suburb districts in Houston shows an overall lack of knowledge of the teams in Houston. There are over 3 million people in the area and more talent than you obviously can imagine.
KaTyTiGeRChIcK07
12-04-2005, 12:51 PM
I truly hope SV doesn't under-rate Katy in this game because they may just have a rude awakening. So what SV is in 26-5A and has had some tough opponents..how does that make them any better? Yes, Katy has been dealt non-rated teams well don't you think the blowouts is a hint that they are still playing awesome? So what SV was up against SLC last year (and LOST might I add) but will SV please remember the 2003 State Championship and WHO came out on top? I'm not saying either team is better I'm just saying this is going to be a GOOD game and I truly don't believe it will be a blow out for either team. I know Katy will be prepared so I sure hope SV quits talking and starts preparing as well. :)
KTFURB
12-04-2005, 12:56 PM
I agree KT. At this point any team will be strong and can beat anyone else under the right conditions. No team can claim superiority simply because of the region they represent or the level of competition they've alledgedly played.
seansvranger
12-04-2005, 01:08 PM
I truly hope SV doesn't under-rate Katy in this game because they may just have a rude awakening. So what SV is in 26-5A and has had some tough opponents..how does that make them any better? Yes, Katy has been dealt non-rated teams well don't you think the blowouts is a hint that they are still playing awesome? So what SV was up against SLC last year (and LOST might I add) but will SV please remember the 2003 State Championship and WHO came out on top? I'm not saying either team is better I'm just saying this is going to be a GOOD game and I truly don't believe it will be a blow out for either team. I know Katy will be prepared so I sure hope SV quits talking and starts preparing as well. :)
katy has not been tested dn basically has practices until last week. sv losing last year was a very dignified loss and your 2003 team was a very good team but as goes new team new year. but yes this is going to be an amazing game and it will not be a blowout sv isnt talking and are preparing its just some of these fans that are being sarcastic or classless.
CNV J-Rock
12-04-2005, 01:12 PM
Katy is thorough, but we saw saturday what a 26-5a schedule does for a team. I think 26-5a is just to strong for RegionIII, which is probably the weakest Region in texas.
Katy has a legit shot but i think SV takes this and make it a sweep of 26-5a.
Rerun
12-04-2005, 01:14 PM
Let me chime in on this.
Smithson Valley knows how to get things done.
Plain and simple.
The Rangers know how to work hard and play some football.
Tough, rugged, ugly, hard nosed, smash mouth, in your face football.
The Rangers have a goodmix of size, speed, strength, intelligence, and very, VERY solid coaching.
The work ethic for Smithson Valley is there.
In order to win, Smithson Valley must effictively continue doing what they have done all season.
I think SV has played better teams than Katy at least 3 times this year.
Judson is Judson and could beat Katy. How did SV fair when they played Judson?They spanked them.
Madison, I think, is just as good if not better than Katy.
How did SV do against Madison this year?
District play they beat them and yesterday in the play-off's they dominated them.
Smithson Valley has ALL the tools to win.
It is simplly a matter of time before someone's good fortune runs out.
Who's time will be up next week?
SV or Katy?
I say Katy makes the exit next week in a convincing Rangers win.
theloneranger
12-04-2005, 01:18 PM
katy has not been tested dn basically has practices until last week. sv losing last year was a very dignified loss and your 2003 team was a very good team but as goes new team new year. but yes this is going to be an amazing game and it will not be a blowout sv isnt talking and are preparing its just some of these fans that are being sarcastic or classless.
I hope your arent talking about me. Im just having a little fun. It is just a game and there is absolutly nothing wrong with fans talking a little trash. I completly RESPECT KATY but thats not going to keep from having some fun!!!!:D
theloneranger
12-04-2005, 01:20 PM
Let me chime in on this.
Smithson Valley knows how to get things done.
Plain and simple.
The Rangers know how to work hard and play some football.
Tough, rugged, ugly, hard nosed, smash mouth, in your face football.
The Rangers have a goodmix of size, speed, strength, intelligence, and very, VERY solid coaching.
The work ethic for Smithson Valley is there.
In order to win, Smithson Valley must effictively continue doing what they have done all season.
I think SV has played better teams than Katy at least 3 times this year.
Judson is Judson and could beat Katy. How did SV fair when they played Judson?They spanked them.
Madison, I think, is just as good if not better than Katy.
How did SV do against Madison this year?
District play they beat them and yesterday in the play-off's they dominated them.
Smithson Valley has ALL the tools to win.
It is simplly a matter of time before someone's good fortune runs out.
Who's time will be up next week?
SV or Katy?
I say Katy makes the exit next week in a convincing Rangers win.
I LIKE THAT TEX!!!!
theloneranger
12-04-2005, 01:26 PM
by a not so good cy falls team
o ok
you are talking about a game you werent at and a team youve never seen play so how do you know cy falls wasnt good.
AND YES, a not so GOOD Cy FALLS team!!!! A&M played awful this whole year in the big 12 and when it came to the TEXAS, A&M game they played their best football all year......The gave TEXAS a scare just like Cy Falls gave yall a scare so does that make A&M a good team this year.......NO!!
Thats the past anyway looking forward to seeing yall in Houston:D
KaTyTiGeRChIcK07
12-04-2005, 01:26 PM
Texas Headliner, I would like you to read your post and put the word Katy in most the places you placed SV. Any Katy fan would agree that our name should be there instead of Sv and Vice-versa. How are you to say a team could beat another? Did it happen No! Let's stick to what had happened and what will happen rather than looking back and outside of what the past shows. So yes in YOUR opinion judson would of beat katy...but to any Katy player or fan would disagree. Both teams are well coached well recognized and have some great records in the past..but do us all a favor look ahead and face the stats..the game will be close if each team goes in playing their best. Best of luck to both teams.
"Greatness has no limits when excellence becomes tradition"
seansvranger
12-04-2005, 01:31 PM
I hope your arent talking about me. Im just having a little fun. It is just a game and there is absolutly nothing wrong with fans talking a little trash. I completly RESPECT KATY but thats not going to keep from having some fun!!!!:D
of course not you gotta have a little fun now and then just you gotta make sure u dont go overboard
DirtyHarry01
12-04-2005, 01:31 PM
Heck, I guess Katy had just as well withdraw, if what you SV fans say is true. They don't stand a chance, so why not forfiet now. Oh, I forgot, games are supposed to be settled on the field, not on these bulletin boards.
SVite
12-04-2005, 01:33 PM
I truly hope SV doesn't under-rate Katy in this game because they may just have a rude awakening. So what SV is in 26-5A and has had some tough opponents..how does that make them any better? Yes, Katy has been dealt non-rated teams well don't you think the blowouts is a hint that they are still playing awesome? So what SV was up against SLC last year (and LOST might I add) but will SV please remember the 2003 State Championship and WHO came out on top? I'm not saying either team is better I'm just saying this is going to be a GOOD game and I truly don't believe it will be a blow out for either team. I know Katy will be prepared so I sure hope SV quits talking and starts preparing as well. :)
Well it surely doesnt mean anything what we fans think.As we sit here watching pro football today,the coaches,and players are breaking film down,and getting a game plan together.It`ll be a tough game,SV has had many this year.We`ll find out if those hard calises mean anything,compared to the SSS of Katy.
theloneranger
12-04-2005, 01:36 PM
of course not you gotta have a little fun now and then just you gotta make sure u dont go overboard
Understandable:D
ftballin11
12-04-2005, 01:36 PM
Not once did I say they CAN'T go over the top. I never said SV d-line isn't good either because they are. Sandejo(spelling) is damn good in the secondary position and special teams. I didn't mention anything about Madison's D-line because they have a few bye weeks before they play again.;) Katy and SV have similar 0-lines, but thats nothing new.. they are nearly the same exact teams. I didn't say once Katy will stomp SV or SV will stomp Katy simply because neither of those would be true in my opinion. It will be a very good game, and a very brutal game.
theloneranger
12-04-2005, 01:43 PM
KaTyTiGeRChIcK07, Ummmm.......I dont think that I personally am overlooking yall. Im just having some fun, you know, stirring the pot. I dont see anything wrong in that. I know yall are good......theres no doubt abouth that. I would absolutly rather go play yall in the semis then cy falls. But I think I remember KATY fans on this board, overlookin us the year we played yall. I think the said " who's Smithson Valley " well they found out. It going a great, one to go in the books like the last time we met.
GO RANGERS!!!
svrangers42
12-04-2005, 01:50 PM
The funniest thing at the SV-Madison game yesterday was the banner Madison had at the beginning of the game that said "Go Back To Your Valley Cuz We're King Of The Mountain". Ah, good stuff.
But anyways, I haven't heard much on Katy this year. Someone give me a scouting report. Do they have an explosive offense? A great defense or what?
ftballin11
12-04-2005, 01:50 PM
Neither team will overlook the other because of the outcomes of the SV vs Katy games in the past. In the past 3 years alone SV won, Katy won... well we all know last years story about Katy and Clear Lake. 1-1 for both teams, nobody will underestimate.(in Katy vs SV... I know SV beat clear lake so don't so don't say there 2-1)
AZTiger
12-04-2005, 02:01 PM
AND YES, a not so GOOD Cy FALLS team!!!! A&M played awful this whole year in the big 12 and when it came to the TEXAS, A&M game they played their best football all year......The gave TEXAS a scare just like Cy Falls gave yall a scare so does that make A&M a good team this year.......NO!!
Thats the past anyway looking forward to seeing yall in Houston:D
idiot. if that's the case, then we turn around and play like Texas did vs. Colorado. when you are the caliber of SV or Katy, you ALWAYS get the other teams best. yesterday we got more than CyFalls best, we didnt expect it, and it almost cost us.
theloneranger
12-04-2005, 02:07 PM
idiot. if that's the case, then we turn around and play like Texas did vs. Colorado. when you are the caliber of SV or Katy, you ALWAYS get the other teams best. yesterday we got more than CyFalls best, we didnt expect it, and it almost cost us.
Your a very angry person arent you??? Calm down, stating my opinion. If you dont like it then tell me you dont but dont call me an IDIOT. ITs just a GAME... what you need to do is grow up and go find a sense of HUMOR. Have some fun buddy!!
ftballin11
12-04-2005, 02:10 PM
And it hasn't even been a full day since Katy vs SV was decided.. and already so much anger in everybody:D
KTFURB
12-04-2005, 02:11 PM
Let me chime in on this.
Smithson Valley knows how to get things done.
Plain and simple.
The Rangers know how to work hard and play some football.
Tough, rugged, ugly, hard nosed, smash mouth, in your face football.
The Rangers have a goodmix of size, speed, strength, intelligence, and very, VERY solid coaching.
The work ethic for Smithson Valley is there.
In order to win, Smithson Valley must effictively continue doing what they have done all season.
I think SV has played better teams than Katy at least 3 times this year.
Judson is Judson and could beat Katy. How did SV fair when they played Judson?They spanked them.
Madison, I think, is just as good if not better than Katy.
How did SV do against Madison this year?
District play they beat them and yesterday in the play-off's they dominated them.
Smithson Valley has ALL the tools to win.
It is simplly a matter of time before someone's good fortune runs out.
Who's time will be up next week?
SV or Katy?
I say Katy makes the exit next week in a convincing Rangers win.
So...which Katy game did you see to be able to make that slightly less than expert analysis? And how many Reg. 3 teams have you seen that has brought you to the conclusion that the region is weak? Answer me this. How many teams from the valley or the CC area ever beat the SA teams or are even competitive? Did you say none? SA has one competitive district and one district that sometimes has some pretty good teams. How many schools are in the Houston area compared to SA? If you took the top 2-3 teams in each distict in the Houston suburb areas and put them into three or four districts, the level of competition would be unbeleivable. Make no mistake the trip through reg. 3 is much tougher than reg. 4. There's only one or two districts in all of region 4 capable of producing a state champion. Almost any suburb district in Houston has the possibility of doing it. The teams from the valley and the CC area would be perennial bottom feeders in Houston and are not even close to matching the talent level of either the Houston area or the SA area. Reg. 4 overall is probably the weakest region with Reg. 1 and the EP schools right behind. Please no responses citing how many state champions each region has. When a team wins regionals all bets are off as to their quality. No region has superiority over another on that level.
AZTiger
12-04-2005, 02:12 PM
ugh, i broke my promise to myself of posting in this thread, and look what happened. i'm through till next saturday night.
sorry, i just dont see how "mindless smack" is "having a little fun"
it's being stupid. i come here for intelligent football talk.
theloneranger
12-04-2005, 02:13 PM
And it hasn't even been a full day since Katy vs SV was decided.. and already so much anger in everybody:D
Your telling me man!!!!:)
I think I need to just start putting a happy face at the end of everyone of my post to let everyone know im a nice guy.........people are funny sometimes:)
theloneranger
12-04-2005, 02:23 PM
ugh, i broke my promise to myself of posting in this thread, and look what happened. i'm through till next saturday night.
sorry, i just dont see how "mindless smack" is "having a little fun"
it's being stupid. i come here for intelligent football talk.
Its not MINDLESS dude its my opinion. If you want respect in life at least post with a little, by that i mean there no need for name calling. Ill get your point by you just saying "I disagree with you loneranger". And then Ill say to myself "OK". Football is a GAME its ok to have fun. But ill never say to anybody that there an "idiot" on these boards just cause I dont like what they said. Act your age please..:)
theloneranger
12-04-2005, 02:36 PM
ANYWAY................. AFTER THAT MESS..............whats yall opinions predictions about the game????????:)
GO RANGERS
ftballin11
12-04-2005, 02:37 PM
Both teams will score atleast once:) ... thats as far into score predictions as I'm going.
KTB mom
12-04-2005, 02:44 PM
Could someone give me the name of the Region IV Div. II winners for the last 10 years? thanks!
svrangers42
12-04-2005, 02:55 PM
this is all I've got...
'05- SV
'04- SV
'03- Clemens
'02- SV
BigFanSLC
12-04-2005, 02:59 PM
Smithson Valley from what I have heard this year has a very strong D. Katy always has a good O.
Good Luck to both teams.
Smithson Valley-28
Katy- 21
BayouBoy34
12-04-2005, 03:00 PM
this is all I've got...
'05- SV
'04- SV
'03- Katy
'02- SV
Don't think Katy ever played Region IV
theloneranger
12-04-2005, 03:04 PM
Don't think Katy ever played Region IV
I think he means clemens in 03'.......they didnt stand a chance against katy:)
svrangers42
12-04-2005, 03:04 PM
Every game so far in the postseason, SV's opponent has driven down the field and scored on thier first possesion, and once their opponent makes a mistake down the field, you can feel the momentum shift, and the SV defense will be unstoppable from there. It's happend in every SV football game so far.
SV has had problems with scrambling QB's all season, but yesterday they held Caflisch in check.
SV is riding on a high right now and I can't see how they would lose..
svrangers42
12-04-2005, 03:05 PM
dang, I knew that list didn't look right, but you know what I mean
JackHandey_98
12-04-2005, 03:06 PM
If you truly believe that Laredo United or Jay could have made it to the reg. 3 finals you have been watching inferior football,because your frame of reference is skewed. The valley teams almost never make it to the semis...and for good reason. The play an inferior level of football. The idea that a valley team could be competetive in the Houston area is absurd. Most posters only see football in their area and thus feel that if their team dominates that area surely they must be outstanding. 265A is a strong district, but its the only strong district, by statewide comparison, in the SA area. The other SA district sometimes has good teams but, the remainder of the region is WEAK. Most no better than the inner city districts in Houston. To think that Laredo United could compete in the suburb districts in Houston shows an overall lack of knowledge of the teams in Houston. There are over 3 million people in the area and more talent than you obviously can imagine.
Well im not the only one who thinks that.....but Texasfootballratings.com has Madison,San Marcos and Jay ahead of Cy Falls, and Cy Falls would be a 6 point favorite over United. There may be 3 million people in Houston but if theres not a good coach out of them the teams wont max out their potential. Katy has great coaching every year and thats what puts them heads above the rest in Houston.
JackHandey_98
12-04-2005, 03:10 PM
And SA Reagan, Clark, Oconner and Judson at that.
AZTiger
12-04-2005, 03:22 PM
SV appears to be very oppurtunistic, by that I mean if you make mistakes/turnovers, forget it, you're through.
If Katy plays like they did yesterday, its obvious they'll get stomped. If they play turnover free football, I think Katy takes. Should be great nonetheless.
svrangers42
12-04-2005, 03:32 PM
How is the Katy kick return game? SV will shut that part of the game down. That was probably the main reason why we dominated Madison, because we took away their game that they highly rely on.
AZTiger
12-04-2005, 03:41 PM
How is the Katy kick return game? SV will shut that part of the game down. That was probably the main reason why we dominated Madison, because we took away their game that they highly rely on.
KO's, nothing spectacular. Punt returns have been solid all year however.
It is NOT something we rely, though.
TXfbfan
12-04-2005, 03:42 PM
Cy-Falls this year is doing the same thing Judson is. Got off to a slow start, and have progressively gotten better, and peaked in the playoffs. Its hard to get up emotionaly every week, especialy when uv benn blowing teams out. I think Cy-Falls just woke up a sleeping giant. Although i do think SV is playing excellent football in the playoffs as they always do. I predict a high scoring game with whoevers defense comes up with the most big plays ending on top.
I think Katy needs too establish the run 1st then work in the great playaction.
ftballin11
12-04-2005, 03:43 PM
With the SV kicker, kick returning game is gone. With the Katy kicker, kick returning game is gone. Both teams have good punt returners and punters.
svrangers42
12-04-2005, 03:48 PM
All this talk is getting me all excited about this game. This week will go by so slow just because the anticipation will be so high.
AZTiger
12-04-2005, 03:54 PM
All this talk is getting me all excited about this game. This week will go by so slow just because the anticipation will be so high.
tell me about it...i'm flying in from Arizona for this game!
TXfbfan
12-04-2005, 03:57 PM
people better anticipate getting to the stadium an hour rearly to get a decent seat. this stadium will fill fast, but theres pleunty of standing room:D
svrangers42
12-04-2005, 03:58 PM
About how many people can Tully hold? Yesterday at Commalander, there was no room at all. No matter how far the drive, the SV faithful will be there.
TXfbfan
12-04-2005, 03:58 PM
tell me about it...i'm flying in from Arizona for this game!
Im flyin from new mexico
AZTiger
12-04-2005, 03:59 PM
Tully holds 7,000 per side I believe
TXfbfan
12-04-2005, 04:00 PM
there wont be any seats left ill tell u that
ranger
12-04-2005, 04:02 PM
I am so glad football games are decided on the field and not on these boards, otherwise we may as well not play. Both teams are very good, I hope it is a good game for both sides and may the best team win. Good luck to both teams, you both deserve to be where you are in the playoffs.
ftballin11
12-04-2005, 04:05 PM
Tully holds 15,000, With a monster of a climb to get to the concessions. These builders weren't kidding when they built the stadium... it's like as much of a vertical climp as you can get from stairs. Alot of standing room, not alot of parking... The parking is big, but with the amount of fans that will be at this game, have fun.
JackHandey_98
12-04-2005, 04:14 PM
History repeats itself and here we are again....in 2002 is was SLC vs. Lufkin and SV vs. Katy and Judson was playing in the State Championship. Funny how things work out. We can only hope for as intense of games this year as we had then. If I remember correctly we found out Judson won at about the start of the 4th qtr, now Judson plays at noon so we might hear the results before half time.
JackHandey_98
12-04-2005, 04:14 PM
How do you get to Tulley coming from SA?
AZTiger
12-04-2005, 04:16 PM
How do you get to Tulley coming from SA?
well it's pretty easy, it's a block south of I-10 at Dairy Ashford in west Houston
seansvranger
12-04-2005, 04:18 PM
well it's pretty easy, it's a block south of I-10 at Dairy Ashford in west Houston
u know i dont speak spanish;)
TigerV1
12-04-2005, 04:19 PM
How do you get to Tulley coming from SA?
Take I-10 all the way from San Antonio. Take the Dairy Ashford exit on I-10 and go right (south) on Dairy Ashford. Drive on Dairy Ashford about 1/4 a mile and the stadium will be on your left. The tough part iin getting to the stadium is managing to get through all the construction on I-10 in the Katy/West Houston area.
AZTiger
12-04-2005, 04:20 PM
u know i dont speak spanish;)
no no no, you're confused, we're not playing at Crump, we're playing at Tully :)
(I don't expect you to get that)
svrangers42
12-04-2005, 04:20 PM
there also is a thing called www.mapquest.com
:D
Redclad
12-04-2005, 04:21 PM
Tullys official seating is 15,000 but as mentioned offers lots of standing room.
Bobcat is 16,000 + with a record crowd of close to 17,000. When Katy and S.A. Holmes played at Tully it was wall to wall. I was told by a SBISD person that over 17,000 were at the game. It's a great stadium that has held up well. It opened in '86 and was the playground for the State Champion Stratford team that featured Eric Dickerson's SMU running buddy Craig James.
It's an Astroturf field that was last replaced in '96 I beleve, but still in good shape. The thing I like about it is that it is recessed so it's more like a bowl. There is a bridge that goes over the ramp on the South side where the dressing rooms are. You can walk across to the other side from both ends but it will most likely be closed off at the middle due to crowd control. It's pretty unique in that it has press boxes on both sides and the concessions are at the top of the stadium. That makes for a steep walk but you can turn around and watch the game while you are in line.
Katy's played a ton of playoff games there and I don't remember the last loss. They were also in the same district as the Spring Branch schools for a few years so they had 2 regular season games there as well. Coming from S.A. you will pass through Katy and it's about another 10-12 miles to the stadium. It's right off of I 10 at Dairy Ashford and there are plenty of nearby restaurants, etc. Though as I said it's a bit old it is by far my favorite HS stadium in the Houston area. No whistles or bells but lots of character.
tigerfan
12-04-2005, 04:23 PM
hey there lone ranger, you say katy will be seing stars, well according to my prediction we will see falling stars this Sat. Katy wins.................:)
TXfbfan
12-04-2005, 04:25 PM
Tullys official seating is 15,000 but as mentioned offers lots of standing room.
Bobcat is 16,000 + with a record crowd of close to 17,000. When Katy and S.A. Holmes played at Tully it was wall to wall. I was told by a SBISD person that over 17,000 were at the game. It's a great stadium that has held up well. It opened in '86 and was the playground for the State Champion Stratford team that featured Eric Dickerson's SMU running buddy Craig James.
It's an Astroturf field that was last replaced in '96 I beleve, but still in good shape. The thing I like about it is that it is recessed so it's more like a bowl. There is a bridge that goes over the ramp on the South side where the dressing rooms are. You can walk across to the other side from both ends but it will most likely be closed off at the middle due to crowd control. It's pretty unique in that it has press boxes on both sides and the concessions are at the top of the stadium. That makes for a steep walk but you can turn around and watch the game while you are in line.
Katy's played a ton of playoff games there and I don't remember the last loss. They were also in the same district as the Spring Branch schools for a few years so they had 2 regular season games there as well. Coming from S.A. you will pass through Katy and it's about another 10-12 miles to the stadium. It's right off of I 10 at Dairy Ashford and there are plenty of nearby restaurants, etc. Though as I said it's a bit old it is by far my favorite HS stadium in the Houston area. No whistles or bells but lots of character.
Well put, theres only one other place id rather play and thats kyle field
seansvranger
12-04-2005, 04:28 PM
map to tully http://maps.yahoo.com//maps_result?csz=Houston%2C+TX+77079-4603&state=TX&uzip=77079&ds=n&name=&desc=&ed=j1hsJ.p_0TqWQwpsnMz9HpVaWcHmgOkyJv2izZOn5xxcPlS bzKmWV3AND._q9wErGaujYJ1DlaORcLvJCLKKSfZ7RVnmrHiJF aWNYxb3snskXt_U5sEISA--&BFClick=&BFKey=&zoomin=yes&mag=2
seansvranger
12-04-2005, 04:30 PM
Now if he did that he wouldnt have been able to get another post tallied onto his name, now could he?
there also is a thing called www.mapquest.com
:D
AZTiger
12-04-2005, 04:36 PM
It opened in '86 and was the playground for the State Champion Stratford team that featured Eric Dickerson's SMU running buddy Craig James.
Whoa you're a little off on your times there. I believe Tully opened in 1976 and that Craig James Stratford team won state in 1978
theloneranger
12-04-2005, 04:39 PM
hey there lone ranger, you say katy will be seing stars, well according to my prediction we will see falling stars this Sat. Katy wins.................:):)
Texas Bob
12-04-2005, 04:43 PM
Tully Stadium (http://www.texasbob.com/football/houindex2.html#TullyHouston)
http://www.texasbob.com/share/tbsta_tully.jpg
This picture was taken a few weeks ago from the home side
theloneranger
12-04-2005, 04:44 PM
Tully Stadium (http://www.texasbob.com/football/houindex2.html#TullyHouston)
http://www.texasbob.com/share/tbsta_tully.jpg
This picture was taken a few weeks ago from the home side
looks good:)
Texas Bob
12-04-2005, 04:46 PM
Whoa you're a little off on your times there. I believe Tully opened in 1976 and that Craig James Stratford team won state in 1978
Tully was built in 1965 the first game was 1966
Texas Bob
12-04-2005, 04:47 PM
look good:)
I think you will enjoy playing in the stadium if the weather cooperates.
theloneranger
12-04-2005, 04:53 PM
I think you will enjoy playing in the stadium if the weather cooperates.bad weather or not ill be there. Playing Katy in 02' was one of the best football games I had ever been a been a part of. The 2nd one would have to be the 01' Denton Ryan vs. SV championship game itstarted pouring and I mean pouring down rain in the second have.............:rolleyes: ................man....what a GAME that was!!!!!! even though we lost:)
ftballin11
12-04-2005, 04:55 PM
It's going to snow:D
Texas Bob
12-04-2005, 04:56 PM
bad weather or not ill be there. Playing Katy in 02' was one of the best football games I had ever been a been a part of. The 2nd one would have to be the 01' Denton Ryan vs. SV championship game itstarted pouring and I mean pouring down rain in the second have.............:rolleyes: ................man....what a GAME that was!!!!!! even though we lost:)
I'm looking forward to some great football next Saturday.
rellufnalla
12-04-2005, 05:02 PM
Tigers at Tully at two.
It's gonna be packed!
svranger6104
12-04-2005, 06:16 PM
Please tell me that SV has a train at their games too... Saying Cy Falls is a "not so good team" makes you sound dumber than you truly are. Cy Falls may have barely pulled the games out leading up to this one against teams that should have been stomped, but I can guarantee you were not at the game to see Cy Falls play. Very fast team that put constant pressure on Dalton. The passing game almost killed Katy because CF was dominating on run defense. SV did not look fast enough. They were constantly burned by Madison recievers, but due to a few "under par" passes, Madison couldn't take full advantage of those oppertunities. Madison was down by 14 in the 3rd quarter and had a chance to come within 7 on a wide open reciever downfield. Due to a severe underthrow by the Madison QB SV intercepted it and that is what put the game away and killed Madison. Madison WR were open MANY times downfield but took advantage of it less than half the time. SV D-line did not look too big and secondary did not look fast enough to keep up with a speed gifted reciever.(or they just simply didn't see the reciever run right by them) SV seemed to love throwing it to their TE's backs, and WR's all on short routes. Didn't see them go over the top too often. SV looks like a Katy, but surprisingly, I'd say Katy has more talent in this matchup.
whoever posted obviously did not watch the game u probably heard it from somebody. i was there the secondary wasnt getting burned by the madison recievers they were worried more about the running game with caflisch and green cause thats what killed them last time they played them. but as soon as second half came around sv made their defensive adjustments and suffocated the madison offense 2 picks i think is what the secondary had cause they were making plays on the ball. as for the game against katy sv will bring there A game lets just hope that katy doesnt leave theirs at home. its 5a state playoffs u lose u go home if u win u get another chance at being the one standing at the end and it looks like sv will be standing alone cause this is their year to beat carroll.
ftballin11
12-04-2005, 06:21 PM
Actually you're wrong, I was at the game. Madison had many open chances downfield to their recievers but didn't take advantage of all of them which yes, is due to SV watching for the run. Sendejo(probably way off on spelling) is very good at his position and just lured the QB into throwing that ball downfield so he could just come from the side and steal it. The ball was underthrown but still was well played by Sendejo(same thing).
ftballin11
12-04-2005, 06:22 PM
And the difference from 1st to 2nd half was that Caflisch(another spelling) was on his back more than he was on his feet in the 2nd half. SV did more stunts and just tore the offense apart from Madison.
TXfbfan
12-04-2005, 06:30 PM
Two of the best coaching staffs going at it. Both known for making great halftime adjustments. Cant wait for a great game.
Redclad
12-04-2005, 07:16 PM
Whoa you're a little off on your times there. I believe Tully opened in 1976 and that Craig James Stratford team won state in 1978
Oops, hit an 8 instead of a 6 .A twenty year old stadium would be fairly new.
kakouton
12-04-2005, 07:21 PM
San Antonio Churchill 14-10 against Smithson Valley.....whos San Antonio Churchill?:D
svrangers42
12-04-2005, 07:27 PM
Churchhill had a great QB and led them that game. SV also played horrible that game, but that game was what ignited this team.
kakouton
12-04-2005, 07:33 PM
you concluding that this "scare" that Katy had did not ignite our team either?
ftballin11
12-04-2005, 07:36 PM
SV had their wake up call then, Katy had theirs yesterday.
Katy has an excellent program that everybody connected with SV has a tremendous amount of respect for. It will be a great game. What amazes me is that over the last four years, only six programs have made it to the semi-finals in division II. SLC (4), Lufkin (4), Katy (3), SV (3), Clemens (1), and Clear Lake (1). That's pretty strong domination by 4 of those progams. SLC has two of the titles with Katy owning the other. It will be interesting to see who wins this one.
DiamondJ2
12-04-2005, 07:47 PM
Two good football teams, with great traditions and coaching staffs. Good luck to both teams, but I've got to pull for our fellow 26-5A brothers.
ftballin11
12-04-2005, 07:55 PM
You going to the game?
MRmaverick
12-04-2005, 09:35 PM
AND YES, a not so GOOD Cy FALLS team!!!! A&M played awful this whole year in the big 12 and when it came to the TEXAS, A&M game they played their best football all year......The gave TEXAS a scare just like Cy Falls gave yall a scare so does that make A&M a good team this year.......NO!!
Thats the past anyway looking forward to seeing yall in Houston:D
please dont say yall im no longer a tiger
DaMan
12-04-2005, 09:55 PM
As a Cy Falls fan, I am very proud of our football team and how hard they have played the last few weeks. When they were on, they were as good as anyone. Yesterday was one of those days and they played every play like there was no tomorrow. Katy has a very good team and they too played very hard and came out on top. Look for CF to support our Region 3 rep. and the more I see the posts from SV the more I hope Katy DESTROYES them. Come on Katy, show them what Region 3 football is all about.
zippy
12-04-2005, 09:58 PM
I dont think its players or coaching staff making those posts. You might hope that SV's stands fall over backwards during a game, but dont take it out on the kids on the field because of some idiot fans (kids) on the boards.
As a Cy Falls fan, I am very proud of our football team and how hard they have played the last few weeks. When they were on, they were as good as anyone. Yesterday was one of those days and they played every play like there was no tomorrow. Katy has a very good team and they too played very hard and came out on top. Look for CF to support our Region 3 rep. and the more I see the posts from SV the more I hope Katy DESTROYES them. Come on Katy, show them what Region 3 football is all about.
TheRowdyRanger
12-05-2005, 03:49 AM
If you truly believe that Laredo United or Jay could have made it to the reg. 3 finals you have been watching inferior football,because your frame of reference is skewed. The valley teams almost never make it to the semis...and for good reason. The play an inferior level of football. The idea that a valley team could be competetive in the Houston area is absurd. Most posters only see football in their area and thus feel that if their team dominates that area surely they must be outstanding. 265A is a strong district, but its the only strong district, by statewide comparison, in the SA area. The other SA district sometimes has good teams but, the remainder of the region is WEAK. Most no better than the inner city districts in Houston. To think that Laredo United could compete in the suburb districts in Houston shows an overall lack of knowledge of the teams in Houston. There are over 3 million people in the area and more talent than you obviously can imagine.
No you idiot...its not the only hard 5a district in the area, but in the state. I challenge anyone to come up with a harder district than 26-5a. You wanna know why? because you cant. How many 5a districts in the state had all three of its playoff teams make it to the quarter finals or further. Judson is going to state, Sv is in the semi's, and madison proved to be a tough contender as well. And its always like this. there were many other though teams in 26-5a that didn't make the playoffs as well. Cause let me tell you, Katy has played some real juggernauts...Oh but SV's opponents are probualy not as good as most of those inner city districts in houston. I mean when suposedly "the best Katy team ever" could barley manage to squeak by a 9-4 Cy-Falls. People can start making excuses for either side saying that CF played the game of their lives, or that Katy was having an off game, but the truth is that none of that matters. Katy is about to face off against easily the best opponent they have played all year. All I know is that Katy better play better against SV, because SV will put them through the ringer if they don't. I normaly have nothing but respect for Katy, being as though they are miror images of SV, but after that last game I don't know...at least for this season anyway. Every katy fan talks about how talented and disciplined the Katy players are, yet they didn't seem to show it for most of the CF game. Because I think that both teams do have talent and are well coached, so it should be an interesting matchup. I'm not saying its going to be a blowout, but if SV plays at the same level they have been playing throughout the playoffs, I don't see how Katy has a chance. I predict SV over Katy by at least 10-14 points.
KT2000
12-05-2005, 07:19 AM
Leave the personal attacks out of it, please.
KTFURB
12-05-2005, 09:07 AM
I can handle the name calling,KT. Thanks for having my back however. RR if you'd read the post and understood it, you would realize I was talking about the region, not a particular district. No one ever said 265 wasn't strong. Had I said that I would have lost all credibility. It is silly to think that Katy would have fared no better than 4th in 265, however. You've obviously fallen victim to tunnel vision. All you see are your local teams and thus you have no clue as to the relative strength of Katy, CyFalls, SLC or Lufkin. No doubt SV will be our strongest test. They should be, they're a state semi-finalist with a proven track record. They are not the only good team in the state, nor is 265 the only tough district in the state, but I still maintain that overall, Reg. 4 is the weakest, simply because of the valley schools and the CC schools.
Favpack
12-05-2005, 09:10 AM
Coming from an unbiased, but ignorant outsider - looks like SV is peaking and playing great football at the right time - while Katy lost 8.99 of it's 9 lives last Saturday ;). So, wouldn't surprise me to see SV win 35-24, but Katy in the finals doesn't sound like a leap at all.
TheRowdyRanger
12-05-2005, 12:45 PM
I can handle the name calling,KT. Thanks for having my back however. RR if you'd read the post and understood it, you would realize I was talking about the region, not a particular district. No one ever said 265 wasn't strong. Had I said that I would have lost all credibility. It is silly to think that Katy would have fared no better than 4th in 265, however. You've obviously fallen victim to tunnel vision. All you see are your local teams and thus you have no clue as to the relative strength of Katy, CyFalls, SLC or Lufkin. No doubt SV will be our strongest test. They should be, they're a state semi-finalist with a proven track record. They are not the only good team in the state, nor is 265 the only tough district in the state, but I still maintain that overall, Reg. 4 is the weakest, simply because of the valley schools and the CC schools.
I wasn't intentionally name calling, but I just get offended when everyone acts like Houston houses the strongest teams in the state. True it does house many such as Katy, Lufkin, Cy-falls, etc...but those are'nt the only powerhouses too. True the SA region doesn't have any other strong districts like 265a, but that doesnt mean that the region is weak either. Remember that reg.4 is house to lots of great teams, San Marcos, Clemons, etc. I still however, think that 265a is the hardest district in the state. And i am aware of many of the teams around the state as well as in my area. True I'm not aware of every team in Katy's district, but that doesen't make me any less credible. I still think Katy is a well coached team with great players. Like I said before, I have nothing but respect for them, I was just trying to put that CF game in perspective when talking about their next matchup with SV. And I'll agree that reg.4 does have some weaker oppenents, but that shouldn't make the whole region weak. I think that reg.3 is no stronger. Katy has not played any real hard teams in their playoff run as well. With that said i think that both teams should matchup well considering their coaching, talent, and expieriance this far in the season. I still give the edge to SV...it will be a close 1st half, but SV will dominate the 2nd.
theloneranger
12-05-2005, 12:47 PM
:) Coming from an unbiased, but ignorant outsider - looks like SV is peaking and playing great football at the right time - while Katy lost 8.99 of it's 9 lives last Saturday ;). So, wouldn't surprise me to see SV win 35-24, but Katy in the finals doesn't sound like a leap at all.
Thanks for your unbiased opinion FAVpack........Good luck against SLC on Saturday. :)
theloneranger
12-05-2005, 12:50 PM
I wasn't intentionally name calling, but I just get offended when everyone acts like Houston houses the strongest teams in the state. True it does house many such as Katy, Lufkin, Cy-falls, etc...but those are'nt the only powerhouses too. True the SA region doesn't have any other strong districts like 265a, but that doesnt mean that the region is weak either. Remember that reg.4 is house to lots of great teams, San Marcos, Clemons, etc. I still however, think that 265a is the hardest district in the state. And i am aware of many of the teams around the state as well as in my area. True I'm not aware of every team in Katy's district, but that doesen't make me any less credible. I still think Katy is a well coached team with great players. Like I said before, I have nothing but respect for them, I was just trying to put that CF game in perspective when talking about their next matchup with SV. And I'll agree that reg.4 does have some weaker oppenents, but that shouldn't make the whole region weak. I think that reg.3 is no stronger. Katy has not played any real hard teams in their playoff run as well. With that said i think that both teams should matchup well considering their coaching, talent, and expieriance this far in the season. I still give the edge to SV...it will be a close 1st half, but SV will dominate the 2nd.You drive a mean ship ROWDY:)
baldtiger15
12-05-2005, 12:57 PM
Unfortunately I am biased, but no so ignorant of the teams involved. Having reflected on many threads and viewed numerous posts I am in awe of the probability, and the I thinks, they should, whose district is tougher, whose region is better. Take all the stats, crunch the numbers and use your abacus- those are the things which determine the polls and rankings and what the sports writers drool over, and what fuels these message boards. The beauty of football is that none of it matters. Sweaty palms, pulsing hearts, a coaches eyes, twisted ankles, and deafening fans can't be put into a computer's giant matrix, and that's why we have to play. I am jacked up to see Tully stadium packed to capacity, bands roaring and aguably two of the best teams in the state battle it out. The game will be close- I'm not bold enough to even say who will win, aside from whoever wants it more.
theloneranger
12-05-2005, 12:59 PM
Unfortunately I am biased, but no so ignorant of the teams involved. Having reflected on many threads and viewed numerous posts I am in awe of the probability, and the I thinks, they should, whose district is tougher, whose region is better. Take all the stats, crunch the numbers and use your abacus- those are the things which determine the polls and rankings and what the sports writers drool over, and what fuels these message boards. The beauty of football is that none of it matters. Sweaty palms, pulsing hearts, a coaches eyes, twisted ankles, and deafening fans can't be put into a computer's giant matrix, and that's why we have to play. I am jacked up to see Tully stadium packed to capacity, bands roaring and aguably two of the best teams in the state battle it out. The game will be close- I'm not bold enough to even say who will win, aside from whoever wants it more.
I Like it!!!:)
sendero
12-05-2005, 02:59 PM
With the SV kicker, kick returning game is gone. With the Katy kicker, kick returning game is gone. Both teams have good punt returners and punters.
Sounds like 80 yard drives will be the course if both score on every posession.:(
sendero
12-05-2005, 03:00 PM
people better anticipate getting to the stadium an hour rearly to get a decent seat. this stadium will fill fast, but theres pleunty of standing room:D
Is it an all General Admission seating? First come first serve?
eagleike
12-05-2005, 03:04 PM
Coming from an unbiased, but ignorant outsider - looks like SV is peaking and playing great football at the right time - while Katy lost 8.99 of it's 9 lives last Saturday ;). So, wouldn't surprise me to see SV win 35-24, but Katy in the finals doesn't sound like a leap at all.
So Favpack:
I guess all the overtime games Lufkin played in 2001 hurt them going into the finals against Westlake?
Didn't think so.
Redclad
12-05-2005, 03:06 PM
General admission it is, better get there way early with ticket in hand.
baldtiger15
12-05-2005, 03:10 PM
If you want to pick your seats ONE HOUR IS NOT ENOUGH! When the team gets to the stadium over 2 hours prior to game time, there are already fans in line and tailgating. When the 60 min clock began to tick last week, i looked into the stands at rice and they were already 60-70% full. (lower level) Tully is NOT as big. Tell the SA friends to do this, leave SA around 9am, get to town in time to grab a bite to eat, then get in line around 1pm. (at least that was my schedule when I thought we might be playing out west) Gonna be a great game
ftballin11
12-05-2005, 03:15 PM
Or you could be like alot of the fans, go there plenty of hours early and tailgate!!! SV fans took a little while to show up completely at Comalander, don't know if that was just because it was hard to get in or anything, but I expect alot of Katy fans will show up more than 2 hours early.
sendero
12-05-2005, 03:20 PM
Neither Katy or SV should scramble to claim the underdog role in this one. At this point, anyone left has the capability to take it all. It'll be about who can make the fewest mistakes and best execute their game plan as always.
Looks like Jerry has picked us to lose and we are losing the SV-Katy Poll so SV will be the underdogs to the "Big Red Machine":D
sendero
12-05-2005, 03:21 PM
Or you could be like alot of the fans, go there plenty of hours early and tailgate!!! SV fans took a little while to show up completely at Comalander, don't know if that was just because it was hard to get in or anything, but I expect alot of Katy fans will show up more than 2 hours early.
I think it is because Comalander has some of the strictest rules. No noise makers of any kind so I'm sure no one even considered tailgating.
ftballin11
12-05-2005, 03:22 PM
Since when has polls determined the outcome of a game? I don't think the coaches will be like... hmm, we are losing in this pole, so let's give up!:p Polls are just for fun...and majority opinion. KT2000, when will the picks from the site go up for this week?
During playoff time, season records go out the window. For those of us who watched Cy Falls (I saw their last 5 games myself) this year know there are reasons why they stumbled at the beginning of the year. They worked on fixing that problem and got it fixed just before the playoffs. Yes, based on their early season problems, they finished 3rd in their district. But finishes and records are often deceiving. Each playoff game I watched, I witnessed a team maturing at the right time. I saw that team overcome the adversity of its own coaching staff calling what I thought were rediculous calls and still hanging at the end through determination and grit. I had a great deal of respect (and still do) for that team and predicted that Katy would have to come back deep into the 4th quarter to eek out a come from behind win in the last seconds. Those who were at the game witnessed a Katy team that was flatter than a pancake in the first half. At least 3 wide-open deep receivers were overthrown. Whatever, the Falls team played the game of their season and this is very possible at this point in the playoffs regardless of the teams season record. My hats off to Falls for doing what no-one else had been close to doing all year. They earned my respect for sure. I for one was uneasy about the game and proved to be right. Regardless, over 300 yards of passing by Katy and a shut out defense down the stretch put us over the top. Katy needed a gut check and they got it. The good news is that shows the players that they can get behind and still do it. The bad news is that SV still regards Katy as playing a weak schedule and not nearly as tough as 26-5a. Oh wait, that might be good news depending on which side you are on. SV and Katy are two excellent programs. SV got a quick start in 02 and Katy didnt have the big passing game for comeback time. They still made it pretty close as I remember it. I know Katy has a great deal of respect for SV and their ability. I know I do. Great match-up of two top teams and programs and looking forward to a great game.
theloneranger
12-05-2005, 04:59 PM
Ut66
"The bad news is that SV still regards Katy as playing a weak schedule and not nearly as tough as 26-5a." The fans might but not the team! :)
ftballin11
12-05-2005, 05:02 PM
SV has a strong schedule, but I think a team with the name Churchill might ring a bell? Yeah, Churchill... not Judson or Madison. Maybe 30 years ago I could understand that game, but this game proves ANYTHING can happen..
Noisemakers are not allowed at any game are they? Cove had a unusual OBSESSION with noisemakers. Very large crowd, with very annoying noisemakers.
sendero
12-05-2005, 05:06 PM
Noisemakers are not allowed at any game are they? Cove had a unusual OBSESSION with noisemakers. Very large crowd, with very annoying noisemakers.
Depends on the town mostly. Try to take those propane bottles with ball bearings away from the Stephenville crowd:eek:
theloneranger
12-05-2005, 05:07 PM
SV has a strong schedule, but I think a team with the name Churchill might ring a bell? Yeah, Churchill... not Judson or Madison. Maybe 30 years ago I could understand that game, but this game proves ANYTHING can happen..
Noisemakers are not allowed at any game are they? Cove had a unusual OBSESSION with noisemakers. Very large crowd, with very annoying noisemakers.
Man, Churchills QB was AMAZING:eek:!! He tore us up. To bad he got hurt they could of made the playoffs if he was still healthy.:)
ftballin11
12-05-2005, 05:11 PM
That could have completely changed the playoffs, if they did make it. Bye bye to one of your 3 teams that was there, we all know who didn't have the best of record but is now proving it doesn't matter in that district.
The way I see it, region 3 is not as strong as it should be for the number of Div I recruits that come out of there. Great athletes but not that many great teams. I bet Katy has had fewer Div I recruits than a lot of the schools in the region yet always seems to win because of great coaching and a great program. Anybody that thinks they would not do well in any district or region in the state is kidding themselves. I seem to remember that Katy has basically owned our region with the exception of the 2002 game. This will be a great game between two similar programs that have earned their respect on the field.
CyFallsMom
12-05-2005, 06:54 PM
I believe Tully opened in 1976 and that Craig James Stratford team won state in 1978
Tully opened in 1965 - I was there for the first ever game - got in trouble for rolling down the hills because they were trying to grow grass!!! What else was a 5 year old going to do!!!
AZTiger
12-05-2005, 07:30 PM
Tully opened in 1965 - I was there for the first ever game - got in trouble for rolling down the hills because they were trying to grow grass!!! What else was a 5 year old going to do!!!
MAN, even I remember rolling down the hills at Tully as a youngster, 20 years later. Wow.... :)
CyFallsMom
12-05-2005, 07:42 PM
MAN, even I remember rolling down the hills at Tully as a youngster, 20 years later. Wow....
all through my childhood and teenage years, I spent just about every Friday night in the fall (not many Saturday games back then) at Tully (or Grob) watching the Bears play football and rolling down those hills:) My parents were both SB football nuts too (sort of like me with Cy Falls) and they chaperoned my drill team (Bruin Brigade) ad nauseum and I was really embarrassed that they were always there and even held up the tear through sometimes - now I really appreciate what they did!! Good times:o
AZTiger
12-05-2005, 07:50 PM
oh good GOD, Grob Stadium, the "Ant Hill" as we called it. What a dump.
TheRowdyRanger
12-06-2005, 02:01 AM
Tully opened in 1965 - I was there for the first ever game - got in trouble for rolling down the hills because they were trying to grow grass!!! What else was a 5 year old going to do!!!
I got in trouble for rolling down the hills during the first game there too. Being that you were 5, they probually let you off the hook pretty easily. For me and my buddies it was'nt quite so easy. Aparently the groundskeepers frown upon 36 year olds rolling down the hill. outch!!
Dont think anyone is gonna roll down them hills this Saturday. Heard today from SBISD athletic department that they are expecting to cram 18,000 fans into that stadium. Opening up the hills for about 4-5000 fans and SRO all the way around the perimeter walk. Man, I gotta see that one but will need to get seated around 3 hours before game time.
CyFallsMom
12-06-2005, 08:46 AM
In all the years I have been going there, I have NEVER seen it that packed - that should be a sight to behold. Please post pictures afterwards. Judging from Saturday, there should be a LOT of red in that stadium. I wish I could be there!!!! I would even wear some red - with a little green mixed in:)
CyFallsMom
12-06-2005, 08:48 AM
I got in trouble for rolling down the hills during the first game there too. Being that you were 5, they probually let you off the hook pretty easily. For me and my buddies it was'nt quite so easy. Aparently the groundskeepers frown upon 36 year olds rolling down the hill. outch!!
TOO funny!! I got in trouble by this one man and, years later, he was the AD out there and was telling my husband this story about telling those darn kids to stop rolling down the newly planted grass that night - I just started smiling and told him I was ONE of those darn kids...we had a good laugh anyway. Small world!
In all the years I have been going there, I have NEVER seen it that packed - that should be a sight to behold. Please post pictures afterwards. Judging from Saturday, there should be a LOT of red in that stadium. I wish I could be there!!!! I would even wear some red - with a little green mixed in:)
Oh, I plan too...Ive got this great shot of the crowd from when Katy played Clements after a score and sold a 24x36 of it...MAN!,...you could see everyone in that image with high 5's, hugs, people yelling on cell phones,..real nice.
TXfbfan
12-06-2005, 10:17 AM
Or you could be like alot of the fans, go there plenty of hours early and tailgate!!! SV fans took a little while to show up completely at Comalander, don't know if that was just because it was hard to get in or anything, but I expect alot of Katy fans will show up more than 2 hours early.
Im expecting to leave around 10, eat then be up there around 1045, gates will open at 1130.
TXfbfan
12-06-2005, 10:29 AM
No you idiot...its not the only hard 5a district in the area, but in the state. I challenge anyone to come up with a harder district than 26-5a. You wanna know why? because you cant. How many 5a districts in the state had all three of its playoff teams make it to the quarter finals or further. Judson is going to state, Sv is in the semi's, and madison proved to be a tough contender as well. And its always like this. there were many other though teams in 26-5a that didn't make the playoffs as well. Cause let me tell you, Katy has played some real juggernauts...Oh but SV's opponents are probualy not as good as most of those inner city districts in houston. I mean when suposedly "the best Katy team ever" could barley manage to squeak by a 9-4 Cy-Falls. People can start making excuses for either side saying that CF played the game of their lives, or that Katy was having an off game, but the truth is that none of that matters. Katy is about to face off against easily the best opponent they have played all year. All I know is that Katy better play better against SV, because SV will put them through the ringer if they don't. I normaly have nothing but respect for Katy, being as though they are miror images of SV, but after that last game I don't know...at least for this season anyway. Every katy fan talks about how talented and disciplined the Katy players are, yet they didn't seem to show it for most of the CF game. Because I think that both teams do have talent and are well coached, so it should be an interesting matchup. I'm not saying its going to be a blowout, but if SV plays at the same level they have been playing throughout the playoffs, I don't see how Katy has a chance. I predict SV over Katy by at least 10-14 points.
If im not mistaken i believe Judson has a similar record. Cyfalls had a slow start but progressively got better during the season and peaked in the playoffs. Falls was in the reg. 3 finals last year if u remember but fell to a great Westfield team. Ther program has impressed me the past two years and will be a force for years to come.
If you look at that one game vs cyfalls and make the judgement that katy can barely beat a team that is 9-4 and cant hang with the great SV. Then ur in for a suprise. Im not going to put a prediction up but i think it will be high scoring, this is prob the first game since woodlands that katy is absolutely going to be jacked up for and it will show.
KTFURB
12-06-2005, 10:07 PM
Well im not the only one who thinks that.....but Texasfootballratings.com has Madison,San Marcos and Jay ahead of Cy Falls, and Cy Falls would be a 6 point favorite over United. There may be 3 million people in Houston but if theres not a good coach out of them the teams wont max out their potential. Katy has great coaching every year and thats what puts them heads above the rest in Houston.
I have about as much faith in their ability to rank every team in the state as I do about USA Todays ability to rank teams nationally. Until you can see each team play its strictly conjecture.
ftballin11
12-06-2005, 10:19 PM
RowdyRanger, everyone doubts Katy about ALMOST losing to a 9-4 team right? A 9-4 team that made the playoffs and to the 4th round at that. Yes, I'm going to mention that one team that will ring a bell... Churchill. I understand about their QB and all this, but 4-5 team revolving around this one player shouldn't be able to beat SV. Anybody on here can sit here and doubt Katy for ALMOST losing. It may have been a wake up call to Katy just like Churchill was to SV. Any team can jump out of nowhere and have a hell of a game. CF did that VS. Katy and Churchill must have had that against SV.
Do not judge Katy on almost losing one game, you do, your team does, you overlook something you could regret.
SV has been playing great playoff ball, Katy will not overlook them. SV shouldn't overlook Katy with how far they are in the playoffs. A team doesn't get here by being average. Look at the final 4 teams and somebody tell me right now that one of those teams is average. If any person can name a team that is, you don't deserve to be anywhere near a football stadium.
KTFURB
12-06-2005, 10:25 PM
I seriously doubt any SV coaches or players are overlooking Katy and vice versa, only a few knuckleheaded fans on each side. They have game films and know what they're in for. Teams with these credentials aren't taken lightly by anyone actually involved in the game.
GoRangers
12-06-2005, 11:39 PM
RowdyRanger, everyone doubts Katy about ALMOST losing to a 9-4 team right? A 9-4 team that made the playoffs and to the 4th round at that. Yes, I'm going to mention that one team that will ring a bell... Churchill. I understand about their QB and all this, but 4-5 team revolving around this one player shouldn't be able to beat SV. Anybody on here can sit here and doubt Katy for ALMOST losing. It may have been a wake up call to Katy just like Churchill was to SV. Any team can jump out of nowhere and have a hell of a game. CF did that VS. Katy and Churchill must have had that against SV.
Do not judge Katy on almost losing one game, you do, your team does, you overlook something you could regret.
SV has been playing great playoff ball, Katy will not overlook them. SV shouldn't overlook Katy with how far they are in the playoffs. A team doesn't get here by being average. Look at the final 4 teams and somebody tell me right now that one of those teams is average. If any person can name a team that is, you don't deserve to be anywhere near a football stadium.
I think there's a big difference when you analyze SV's loss and Katy's 3rd-round playoff close-call. SV lost its district opener and has been under immense pressure week since then to survive 26-5a and even make the playoffs. This constant pressure-cooker has molded the team into a tough bunch of kids that know to stay the course and play tough games.
Last year, the pressure seemed to get to Katy vs Clear Lake. This year, it almost did again. Katy did not give up and fought back for a difficult win. I just think SV's level of competition will help them in a very tense game. If SV gets up by 18 late in the 3rd, like CF did, it's over. They will not repeat the strategy and mental breakdowns CF did.
baldtiger15
12-07-2005, 05:45 AM
Everyone is so obsessed with the record issue and what it means to be at this level with 4 losses, or "almost lose" to a team with 4 in the L column. For the sake of argument, does anyone know which State Champ teams have the worst record?
Fleeman93
12-07-2005, 07:21 AM
Here is one to chew on. I think the Cy Falls team that Katy faced last Saturday could hang with ANYONE in the 265. HMMMMMMMM?
KatyTigerDad0407
12-07-2005, 07:32 AM
HELLO!!! JUDSON 10-4 PLAYING FOR A STATE TITLE. Who know when Cy Falls had those 4 loses. Certainly it happened a while back. Lonny23 fired Judson on Oct 21. Hit search 'Judson you're fired'.
It's gonna be a great weekend. Katy will welcome SV by rolling out the RED. Even put a BIG SpringBranch in the end zone to make you feel at home.
SVite
12-07-2005, 08:59 AM
HELLO!!! JUDSON 10-4 PLAYING FOR A STATE TITLE. Who know when Cy Falls had those 4 loses. Certainly it happened a while back. Lonny23 fired Judson on Oct 21. Hit search 'Judson you're fired'.
It's gonna be a great weekend. Katy will welcome SV by rolling out the RED. Even put a BIG SpringBranch in the end zone to make you feel at home.
You might as well put a Spring Branch/Canyon lake/Bulverde in the end zone.I`m not sure how Spring Branch has been the chosen town of SV,these 3 are just as far from SV as the other.:confused:
CyFallsMom
12-07-2005, 09:02 AM
HELLO!!! JUDSON 10-4 PLAYING FOR A STATE TITLE. Who know when Cy Falls had those 4 loses. Certainly it happened a while back. Lonny23 fired Judson on Oct 21. Hit search 'Judson you're fired'.
Cy Falls lost to Westfield (2nd game), Cy Fair (3rd game), Cy Creek (5th game??) and Tomball (9th game). Tomball was just too fired up and they were playing for the same thing we were - a playoff spot. The other 3 were just very good at the time we played them. We had some QB questions and then, Jeff Welch comes in for Magnolia game and that was all she wrote. He went 4-1 with almost 1000 yards passing from that point. He is a JUNIOR so be watching for him and many other CF players next year - lots of underclassmen on that team. I guess my point is, yes they could hang with any of those teams - the Cy Falls team that Katy played was playing to the potential they had all year but just couldn't get it kick started. I get irritated when I see someone say "but Katy only beat a 9-4 team" - it wasn't a typical 9-4 team - they were playing like a 13-0 team at the time.
SVite
12-07-2005, 09:08 AM
Here is one to chew on. I think the Cy Falls team that Katy faced last Saturday could hang with ANYONE in the 265. HMMMMMMMM?
Well I`m thinking the chew must be RED MAN:D ,Any of the 26 5 ,BUT,SV,and State Finalist Judson.Spit!Splat!.....:cool:
Fleeman93
12-07-2005, 10:24 AM
Well I`m thinking the chew must be RED MAN:D ,Any of the 26 5 ,BUT,SV,and State Finalist Judson.Spit!Splat!.....:cool:
Guess that both statements are a matter of opinion, but neither of us really know. I'm sure this Saturday will give us a little more insight.
CyFallsMom
12-07-2005, 10:43 AM
Guess that both statements are a matter of opinion, but neither of us really know. I'm sure this Saturday will give us a little more insight.
This whole board is nothing but opinions so I may as well throw out yet another one!!
GO KATY TIGERS!! The entire cities is of Houston AND Katy are behind you - you are our lone rep now and I am a temporary Katy Tiger fan until this is over - sending all my Cypress Falls Golden Eagle vibes your way!! :) :) :p And I have some good Golden Eagle vibes I tell ya!!!!! Also, kudos and much good luck to the Brenham Cubs against Calallen:D
Again, this is just the opinon of CyFallsMom and should be taken in that context:cool:
This will be an early one. Katy crowd started lining up about 9:30-10:00AM for a 2PM kick off at Rice stadium with NO chance of a full house. Katy crowd will be there lining up when the parking lot opens at 9:00 a full 5 hours before kick off. There will not be an empty seat. Ticket lines this morning were already 20 min plus long and this is Wednesday and technically the first day of sales. Katy will buy every seat that SV doesnt use. The blue and white will be surrounded or displaced by RED. Remember, there is no guarantee where you will sit except for your place in the gate line. Katy plans on showing the RED in full force.
GoRangers
12-07-2005, 11:33 AM
This will be an early one. Katy crowd started lining up about 9:30-10:00AM for a 2PM kick off at Rice stadium with NO chance of a full house. Katy crowd will be there lining up when the parking lot opens at 9:00 a full 5 hours before kick off. There will not be an empty seat. Ticket lines this morning were already 20 min plus long and this is Wednesday and technically the first day of sales. Katy will buy every seat that SV doesnt use. The blue and white will be surrounded or displaced by RED. Remember, there is no guarantee where you will sit except for your place in the gate line. Katy plans on showing the RED in full force.
How many tickets have been reserved for general admission? $10 for this game at the gate?? Wow. Hope SV gets half of that gate
Folks at the stadium are buying from the general admission pot and are more likely to be fringe fans. SV folks are going to be buying from the school. I am, as it makes no sense to get up early to be at the game 5 hours early just to make sure you have a ticket. No need.
seansvranger
12-07-2005, 11:57 AM
ok i finnaly have my prediction sv by 7 or 8
AZTiger
12-07-2005, 12:32 PM
You might as well put a Spring Branch/Canyon lake/Bulverde in the end zone.I`m not sure how Spring Branch has been the chosen town of SV,these 3 are just as far from SV as the other.:confused:
it's a joke...Tully Stadium is the stadium for Spring Branch ISD here in Houston, and it says "Spring Branch" in the endzones
56SV-aught3
12-07-2005, 01:48 PM
This one should be quite a game, I played in the '02 Katy/SV game and a TIE wouldn't have shown how close that game was, both teams have a similar philosophy, take care of the ball, limit mistakes, execution, effort, and class. Two outstanding coaching staffs, two outstanding teams, i'm looking foreward to it, i say SV by half a point.
Drake
12-07-2005, 02:17 PM
This one should be quite a game, I played in the '02 Katy/SV game and a TIE wouldn't have shown how close that game was, both teams have a similar philosophy, take care of the ball, limit mistakes, execution, effort, and class. Two outstanding coaching staffs, two outstanding teams, i'm looking foreward to it, i say SV by half a point.You can't go by that, Smithson Valley has different players now... :D
By the way, me and another guy that supports Strake Jesuit got four tickets at Katy High today! I felt like a spy... ROFL!
Plano East Player
12-07-2005, 02:56 PM
i moved from the north side of san antonio just as SV was being built. I new they would attract alot of talent but i never imagined them like this. Last year in the state game was the first time i had ever heard of them since i moved and i was very shocked. anyone from the san antonio plz fill me in on how this happened and what makes them good.
You can't go by that, Smithson Valley has different players now... :D
By the way, me and another guy that supports Strake Jesuit got four tickets at Katy High today! I felt like a spy... ROFL!
And you got out alive? Must have been in disquise.:eek:
baldtiger15
12-07-2005, 03:02 PM
And you got out alive? Must have been in disquise.:eek:
We don't cook 'em and eat 'em on their first visit. We wait until they get comfortable- then comes the lynch party.
Kidding aside, I can't say thanks enough for the support. That's what this game is all about. You're in for a good one no matter what. Go Tigers
Drake
12-07-2005, 03:25 PM
We don't cook 'em and eat 'em on their first visit. We wait until they get comfortable- then comes the lynch party.
Kidding aside, I can't say thanks enough for the support. That's what this game is all about. You're in for a good one no matter what. Go TigersWell, for a high school football fan that is hoping to see a competitive game (no blowout), I don't know how this one will top last week, but you never know...
AZTiger
12-07-2005, 03:28 PM
Well, for a high school football fan that is hoping to see a competitive game (no blowout), I don't know how this one will top last week, but you never know...
are you kidding? the two Strake playoff games I attended were WELL worth the price of admission. you've seen some helluva playoff games this year man!
Drake
12-07-2005, 03:37 PM
are you kidding? the two Strake playoff games I attended were WELL worth the price of admission. you've seen some helluva playoff games this year man!No kidding. Our Cinco, Taylor, and Hastings games were heart-stoppers too... Of course, those were games I'd have taken SJ blowouts too.
Been a great season for game watching for SJ and Katy fans, especially the ones that attended some of the other schools games...
AZTiger
12-07-2005, 03:41 PM
No kidding. Our Cinco, Taylor, and Hastings games were heart-stoppers too... Of course, those were games I'd have taken SJ blowouts too.
Been a great season for game watching for SJ and Katy fans, especially the ones that attended some of the other schools games...
that cy falls/jesuit game was funny, there were a TON of katy folks there. yalls fans were in awe that we came out in such big numbers!
Drake
12-07-2005, 03:46 PM
that cy falls/jesuit game was funny, there were a TON of katy folks there. yalls fans were in awe that we came out in such big numbers!Thats true! I was also in awe of how our kids' effort turned your lukewarm support at the beginning into frenzied crusader lovers at the end... Reminded me of when Rocky went to Russia :D
AZTiger
12-07-2005, 03:49 PM
Thats true! I was also in awe of how our kids' effort turned your lukewarm support at the beginning into frenzied crusader lovers at the end... Reminded me of when Rocky went to Russia :D
oh Lord....
"If I can change, and he can change...we can ALL change!"
Most awkward movie line ever.
gburgtiger
12-07-2005, 04:38 PM
oh Lord....
"If I can change, and he can change...we can ALL change!"
Most awkward movie line ever.
yeah...but it ended the cold war! huh? huh?
KTfball07
12-07-2005, 05:19 PM
sv VS katy round 2 so i would hope sv will take this game and now that katy has been tested i know its gonna be a good game.
katy was tested because the players didn't think cy falls would be that good and no one really tried during the game until they realized the reality that they have a chance of losing.... Katy will play a much better game than they did
theloneranger
12-07-2005, 05:39 PM
This will be an early one. Katy crowd started lining up about 9:30-10:00AM for a 2PM kick off at Rice stadium with NO chance of a full house. Katy crowd will be there lining up when the parking lot opens at 9:00 a full 5 hours before kick off. There will not be an empty seat. Ticket lines this morning were already 20 min plus long and this is Wednesday and technically the first day of sales. Katy will buy every seat that SV doesnt use. The blue and white will be surrounded or displaced by RED. Remember, there is no guarantee where you will sit except for your place in the gate line. Katy plans on showing the RED in full force.
Well.......studies have shown that that blue is a more common favored color.....so with that being said..SV will probably win, not sure though!!!!:)
gldneagles
12-07-2005, 06:15 PM
This one should be quite a game, I played in the '02 Katy/SV game and a TIE wouldn't have shown how close that game was, both teams have a similar philosophy, take care of the ball, limit mistakes, execution, effort, and class. Two outstanding coaching staffs, two outstanding teams, i'm looking foreward to it, i say SV by half a point.
however, as opposed to the '02 game, katy has a much stronger passing game this year to go along with their top notch running game. cf managed to slow the run game down a little but katy still threw for about 330 yards. and that was with alot of pressure on the quarterback by cf's DL. futa can burn just about anyone. i did not believe it before the game, but, he was able to pull away from one of cf's fastest players who runs either right at or a sub 4.4. great reads on the corners by the recievers and quarterback. lay off of them so you do not get burned, they curl in for 10-12 yards. you came up to jam them, they run by the defender and go long. you bring a safety over to help cover, they hit the tight ends over the middle. a really good passing team with the athletes to execute it well. but they still have the same ol' running game which just keeps the ball moving up the field.
this multi dimensional offense causes problems for defenses. you put 8-9 in the box to stop the run, they will kill teams with the pass. play the pass and they will run all day.
without knowing enough about sv outside of last year's title game and the posts on this board, my prediction is katy by 6. high scoring game, because both teams move the ball and take care of it. defenses slow things down on both sides but can not totally stop each other. katy has the big play capability to score quick when ever needed and thus the plus 6 guess.
katy fan for the next 2 weeks.
theloneranger
12-07-2005, 06:17 PM
i moved from the north side of san antonio just as SV was being built. I new they would attract alot of talent but i never imagined them like this. Last year in the state game was the first time i had ever heard of them since i moved and i was very shocked. anyone from the san antonio plz fill me in on how this happened and what makes them good.
COACH HILL:) Thats who started it all!!
theloneranger
12-07-2005, 06:20 PM
however, as opposed to the '02 game, katy has a much stronger passing game this year to go along with their top notch running game. cf managed to slow the run game down a little but katy still threw for about 330 yards. and that was with alot of pressure on the quarterback by cf's DL. futa can burn just about anyone. i did not believe it before the game, but, he was able to pull away from one of cf's fastest players who runs either right at or a sub 4.4. great reads on the corners by the recievers and quarterback. lay off of them so you do not get burned, they curl in for 10-12 yards. you came up to jam them, they run by the defender and go long. you bring a safety over to help cover, they hit the tight ends over the middle. a really good passing team with the athletes to execute it well. but they still have the same ol' running game which just keeps the ball moving up the field.
this multi dimensional offense causes problems for defenses. you put 8-9 in the box to stop the run, they will kill teams with the pass. play the pass and they will run all day.
without knowing enough about sv outside of last year's title game and the posts on this board, my prediction is katy by 6. high scoring game, because both teams move the ball and take care of it. defenses slow things down on both sides but can not totally stop each other. katy has the big play capability to score quick when ever needed and thus the plus 6 guess.
katy fan for the next 2 weeks.
Are you talking about SV or KATY:) I know you might have never seen an SV game but basically decribed us word for word..:eek:
GO RANGERS!!
gldneagles
12-07-2005, 07:28 PM
Are you talking about SV or KATY:) I know you might have never seen an SV game but basically decribed us word for word..:eek:
GO RANGERS!!
should be a great game then! this should be worth the money for seeing.
it is just that most of what i have read on here has been about sv's running game and not much on the passing game. agreed, just my ignorance on sv.
make me happy boys!
katy fan for the next 2 weeks.
Attempt # IV
12-07-2005, 07:57 PM
uhhhh this just in... Katy, lufkin, southlake, and trinity forfit making SV and Judson the state champs. UIL then rules to use head to head games as the SUPER state champions and SV gets more diamonds on their ring cuz they beat them. (oh just woke up) :p
AZTiger
12-07-2005, 08:05 PM
Are you talking about SV or KATY:) I know you might have never seen an SV game but basically decribed us word for word..:eek:
GO RANGERS!!
that's the funny thing about it
tigerlair
12-07-2005, 08:34 PM
San Antonio Churchill 14 Smithson Valley 10 , Smithson Valley 28 San Antonio Macarthur 21 , Smithson Valley 26 SA Reagan 23 , Smithson Valley 28 Pflugerville 21. These teams went a combined 21-18 on the season and now katy isnt any good because they have ONE close game?? please someone explain, the numbers dont lie.
tigerlair
12-07-2005, 08:34 PM
may i add the one team who made it to the regional semi-finals
seansvranger
12-07-2005, 08:46 PM
San Antonio Churchill 14 Smithson Valley 10 , Smithson Valley 28 San Antonio Macarthur 21 , Smithson Valley 26 SA Reagan 23 , Smithson Valley 28 Pflugerville 21. These teams went a combined 21-18 on the season and now katy isnt any good because they have ONE close game?? please someone explain, the numbers dont lie.
ok remember in season madison was close game then playoffs 50-20 thats why and that was also in the toughest district in the state.
BigWhiteJake
12-07-2005, 09:15 PM
katy was tested cause we arent as good as everyone thinks we are...we got tested by a team full of juniors, no excuse for that...sorry, i hate the be the cynic who breaks up this sportmanship fest...but for all region III playoff games not played between north shore and westfield this rule applies...do not mistake a mutual lack of ability for a good game...thats like saying texas southern v prarie view (what you know bout battle of the bands) was a better game than ohio state and texas...
ftballin11
12-07-2005, 09:47 PM
The list of people judging Katy by one game, that they still won, is growing by the day. You can sit here and say Katy sucks at this, Katy sucks at that... but if Katy sucked, would they be one of 6 teams left in the 5a playoffs? Do the math and tell me what the odds are of all the high schools in the state for 5a and making it this far in the playoffs. A weak team would not have averaged a 30+ point win every playoff game except one where Katy might as well scored for them. CF got a punt blocked, and I would say that was the only "given" touchdown, even then it was earned with a hell of a block by the special teams. The INT. in the endzone was CF going to what was their biggest advantage... WR's ability to get MUCH higher than a Katy DB. Pass was underthrown a little bit and enabled the corner to intercept it. Go look at the picture of that pass and tell me that the reciever didn't have the heigth advantage.(he basically jumped over Katy's corner). Keep judging a team by one game that wasn't a 40 point win. You want to judge teams in the playoffs, any team left with very little acception can be said that they "barely won" a game or showed their "true ability" in a game. It's a good thing SV doesn't think like you, they'd be in trouble. I guarantee they aren't thinking Katy is a weak team. I guarantee Katy isn't thinking SV is anything near a weak team, especially with the way they have been playing in the playoffs.
TXfbfan
12-07-2005, 10:02 PM
katy was tested cause we arent as good as everyone thinks we are...we got tested by a team full of juniors, no excuse for that...sorry, i hate the be the cynic who breaks up this sportmanship fest...but for all region III playoff games not played between north shore and westfield this rule applies...do not mistake a mutual lack of ability for a good game...thats like saying texas southern v prarie view (what you know bout battle of the bands) was a better game than ohio state and texas...
so the other big wins in the playoffs including over Cy creek who beat cyfalls didnt impress u.
svrangerfan
12-07-2005, 10:05 PM
I am as big an SV fan as anyone but I know 265a is the strongest district in a weak region. They would be average in the D-FW area. I fully expect a great game and I am driving down from Dallas to catch it. Just because region 3 & 4 are both not up to par does not mean Katy or SV is a weak team. I have alot of respect for what Katy has accomplished and SV wants to go where Katy has been. As far as SLC or Lufkin give me SLC because Lufkin has too much speed and athleticism for SV. Katy may prove to have too much as well so it may come down to "Finding a way" to win this one. If Katy has a weakness Hill will find it and exploit it.
BigWhiteJake
12-07-2005, 10:14 PM
well i for one am the board's resident smart *** so i will do the math... 1st the odds of winning your region and going undefeated without ever beating a team in the final top 25... so we played 9 games in the regular season and there are 246 5A teams, each week you have a 25/246 chance of playing one during the regular season...thats basically an 89.9% the team your playing isnt top 25, but multiply that times itself 9 times and you have a 38.3% chance of never playing a top 25 team...thats decent enough, but lets examine playoffs...all 25 of the top 25 obviously make the playoffs, along with 96 other 5A teams (32D1 64D2) so the first week you had a 25/96 (26%) chance of playing a top 25 aka decent team...these odds grow progressively more as you move along but ill just give you the math like you requested...it boils down to a 2.33% chance a team could have played as weak a schedule as katy and make the semifinals...I AM NOT SAYING KATY IS A BAD TEAM... BUT going by easy to follow numbers 31% of the teams in the state could have traversed our schedule and gone undefeated and be playing in the state semifinals right now...so there i showed you the math
BigWhiteJake
12-07-2005, 10:19 PM
yes in other words i am unimpressed, supportive, but unimpressed, dont make me the bad guy, but lets actually beat someone before we gloat... i love katy but i hate the way some of us get about our football... i mean honestly why would anyone in the stands be crying...lets just go into this game as underdogs because thats where we belong... but i have feeling katy will beat SV, i know SV is better, i have a feeling katy will win... call it home turf advantage...
ftballin11
12-07-2005, 10:22 PM
Okay, which proves the point that has been said many times on this board. KATY HAS NOT PLAYED THE BEST OF TEAMS, WE ALL KNOW THAT. 195 was weaker than usual this year, and we played a Cy Creek team which beat Cy Falls that we barely beat. It is obvious Katy had a bad game if we beat CC(cycreek) by alot, then barely beat the team that lost to CC(cyfalls). That was not the "true" Katy as quite a few people have said. Katy may have had a weak schedule, but that does not make them incapable of beating SV. SV is a very well coached team and yes, will pick you apart if you show a weakness. Doing the math for the odds of playing a top 25 team can show the strength, or should I say weakness of Katy's schedule, but when it comes to the field Saturday, those stats are useless.
ftballin11
12-07-2005, 10:25 PM
yes in other words i am unimpressed, supportive, but unimpressed, dont make me the bad guy, but lets actually beat someone before we gloat... i love katy but i hate the way some of us get about our football... i mean honestly why would anyone in the stands be crying...lets just go into this game as underdogs because thats where we belong... but i have feeling katy will beat SV, i know SV is better, i have a feeling katy will win... call it home turf advantage...
This one I will give you. Well said. Underdog is something Katy isn't too often, but it is also what can drive a team to play harder. I know they won't be thinking they are the underdog in the locker rooms, but at least the fans can think that we are playing a role. This is about as home field advantage as it can possibly get for Katy. Stadium is going to be crazy. Crying in the stands was just about the thought of losing. Can't say I've cried over a loss, but hey different people have different looks on things;)
BigWhiteJake
12-07-2005, 10:26 PM
and like i said i think katy will beat Smithson Valley, i think SV is better, i just think katy will win because katy has a habit of beating teams that run them off the field on paper. see longview 97, southlake 03, humble 02, humble 02 II, etc etc etc...
wait why is this even a thread...i just remembered something...
this game has no winner...
svrangerfan
12-07-2005, 10:33 PM
BigWhiteJake I disagree with you on 2 fronts. SV is the underdog this weekend and we will find a way to win Saturday. Other than that you were right on.
BigWhiteJake
12-07-2005, 10:38 PM
sorry man, im slow, as some moron named thecoach is pointing out to me in private messages right now...evidently, in his 12 posts that im sure all include the words 'bro' or 'dude' on some sub sophomoric level ...he has amassed more knowledge of high school football than i have working for 2 texas football magazines the past few years...
anyways, i apologize, i digress....
so basically you agree with all my reasoning why SV is better, just not that they are...
and you see where im going with katy has a way of winning... but dont they do...
I need Jon Stewart to read this thread for me aloud on the Daily Show...
BigWhiteJake
12-07-2005, 10:48 PM
o and to whoever said being tested is going to help us... huh???
now im just writer of simple threads,
im not a real analytical man,
I watch ESPN but im not sure i can tell you,
how 03 OU lost, wait yes i can,
cause snyder knew the offense, and i talked to bob,
and he remembered this from when the buzzer rung,
once one team knew blitzing white was the thing to do,
the season was done........the season was done
HOLD YOUR APPLAUSE!!! thats a keystyle to that alan jackson song about 9/11...i like it... anyways yeah when u havent been challenged ALL YEAR then all of the sudden a sorry team is about to whip you it means they done figured something out in your gameplan that aint right... now i dont know if they can read and write in smithson valley and frankly dont care, but i know they can coach football and now everrrrrrrrryone knows what big red caint do....and ooooooo boy will the valley boys be a blitzin....
once again i still think katy will win this game for what its worth, because like i said, this game has no winner, none, nada, zip,zero
svrangerfan
12-07-2005, 10:49 PM
BWJ I don't necessarily think SV is better. I have not seen Katy play this year so how could I?? I am assuming that Katy did not necessarily respect their last opponent and it nearly bit them in the ***. I am also assuming they will be ready to play SV on Saturday. I think it will take something special for SV to win. Katy is always fast athletic and well coached & I don't have any reason to believe this team is any different. I am looking forward to a great football game. I will be at the 50 yard line on the SV side if you want to come say hello.
TheRowdyRanger
12-07-2005, 10:52 PM
RowdyRanger, everyone doubts Katy about ALMOST losing to a 9-4 team right? A 9-4 team that made the playoffs and to the 4th round at that. Yes, I'm going to mention that one team that will ring a bell... Churchill. I understand about their QB and all this, but 4-5 team revolving around this one player shouldn't be able to beat SV. Anybody on here can sit here and doubt Katy for ALMOST losing. It may have been a wake up call to Katy just like Churchill was to SV. Any team can jump out of nowhere and have a hell of a game. CF did that VS. Katy and Churchill must have had that against SV.
Do not judge Katy on almost losing one game, you do, your team does, you overlook something you could regret.
SV has been playing great playoff ball, Katy will not overlook them. SV shouldn't overlook Katy with how far they are in the playoffs. A team doesn't get here by being average. Look at the final 4 teams and somebody tell me right now that one of those teams is average. If any person can name a team that is, you don't deserve to be anywhere near a football stadium.
I want to say right out that I like Katy. I always have...I mean Katy and SV play identical ball and are almost mirror images of each other. Like I have already said many times, I have nothing but respect for Katy. I was just using last weeks game to put things in perspective for saturday's game. True every team goes through it's share of down games, but the good ones always seem to bounce back from them. Katy and SV are certainly no strangers to that. I believe that Katy will likely use that scare against CF to play to their fullest against SV. True, there are not any excuses you can come up with as to why SV lost that one against Churchill, but like I mentioned before it was just one of their down games that they couldn't manage to come out on top. But one thing about SV that must be taken into consideration, is the level at which they have been playing in the playoffs. When I went to the season opener against Phlugerville, SV was unimpressive to say the least. They managed to win the game, but their defense was very slow and sloppy and their offense was not that productive. To say that they were playing bad would be unfair, but if you could compare it to the level at which they have been playing since they entered the playoffs-you would swear it was a different team. As is usually the case with SV in the playoffs, I think it is atributed to Larry Hills excellent coaching and discipline that he instills in his players. None of SV's playoff games this season have even been anywhere close. However, I think that both teams should match up quite well come saturday. I think that SV's keys to victory will be to come out prepared and play great football, capitolize on mistakes, and force katy into a hole early in the game. Like I stated before I think that the 1st half will be close, but if SV is able to do all the things I stated, I think that they will be very dominating in the second half. I don't think that either team will overlook another and should come prepared. I wouldn't expect SV to win by a lot, but if it happened it wouldn't surprise me. Either way, I hope that both teams come ready to play their best possible game.
BigWhiteJake
12-07-2005, 10:52 PM
fa sho brother, ill be tailgating way early on the katy side if you want to grab a bite, but was that not the best song parody you ever heard? EVER
svrangerfan
12-07-2005, 10:58 PM
Hard to say. I never heard the original. It was a good sports point though. Dude.
singularity
12-07-2005, 11:00 PM
and like i said i think katy will beat Smithson Valley, i think SV is better, i just think katy will win because katy has a habit of beating teams that run them off the field on paper. see longview 97, southlake 03, humble 02, humble 02 II, etc etc etc...
wait why is this even a thread...i just remembered something...
this game has no winner...
i don't think SV has played anyone who looks worse on paper than they do. SV looks mediocre on paper, yet wins against teams that are "superior" on paper. I do believe with the teams Katy has played this season, they look better on paper than most evryone in the state.
BigWhiteJake
12-07-2005, 11:06 PM
maybe 'paper' is too advanced a concept for you...it leads into numbers and letters and shapes and lines...lol im just messing with you...gotta remember papers only worth who you put the numbers up against... PS if of you wanna win betting money go pick texas to thrash USC on january 4th...just helping my community of peers
singularity
12-07-2005, 11:07 PM
BTW "on paper", Katy is #7 in the state in scoring margins, #9 in highest scoring offense, and #7 in highest scoring defense. They also have a perfect record. SV is not in the top 25 in any of these categories and they have one loss.
Remember paper doesn't mean jack when a team has a chump schedule. Schertz Clemens was #8, #15, and #17 respectively, and they were dominated by a team that SV dominated. SV is like a silent assassin. They sneak up on you on paper, and then intelligently kill you in the game.
TXfbfan
12-07-2005, 11:20 PM
What ever the outcome of this game, there are four schoos who i believe to be the elites of 5a football and all 4 are in the D2 Semis, year in year out, talent or no talent find a way to get back.
rellufnalla
12-08-2005, 11:26 AM
Note to Rangers.
The weather has taken a turn for the worse. With the possibility of ice and snow on the field at the game, all Ranger receivers are advised to wear snowshoes during the game.:D
baldtiger15
12-08-2005, 12:04 PM
Note to Rangers.
The weather has taken a turn for the worse. With the possibility of ice and snow on the field at the game, all Ranger receivers are advised to wear snowshoes during the game.:D
Reminiscient of the '97 playoff game at Tully, sleeted the whole game, went into 2OT. Still remember the freezing hands, and the constant tink, tink, tink, tink, tink on the helmet.
TheOnceandFutureKnight
12-08-2005, 02:15 PM
there wasn't a 2nd OT
baldtiger15
12-08-2005, 02:27 PM
there wasn't a 2nd OT
point of fact there was a 2nd OT- Nugent kick from Jones hold good. The Elsik snap went over the holder's head, Chad Walters and Steven McConnell made the tackle.
BigWhiteJake
12-08-2005, 09:41 PM
So I wake up this morning and its 31 degrees...I figure my letter jacket will save me, but I am wrong...I later learn that it never got about 37 degrees all the live long day...I go to walk to my car and I am cold...
Do you get my point?
Thats basically the relevance of this whole thread summed up into one short narrative. See, like I said, I think Katy will win, I also think Valley is better... its an enigma...but I know one thing...it will be better for either team to lose this game by a small margin than to play Southlake...see, loser of this game gets to laugh at the winner next weekend...so lets look at the glass as half full now...this game has no loser...one actual winner...one spiritual winner
Ahhh can you feel the nirvana?
Quick poll: You might not know that the Helen Keller school in Tuscaloosca, Alabama just began a football program. Next week at Reliant they plan to warm up for their season against the Texans. The Errrrr's are a 32 point favorite, which side of the spread do you take?
AZTiger
12-08-2005, 10:48 PM
baldtiger....there was no 2nd OT
eagleike
12-08-2005, 10:51 PM
BigDumbJake:
Why are you such an idiot? Got some inbreeding going on over the in the Big Thicket?
Quick poll: You might not know that the Helen Keller school in Tuscaloosca, Alabama just began a football program. Next week at Reliant they plan to warm up for their season against the Texans. The Errrrr's are a 32 point favorite, which side of the spread do you take?
You're too high. Max 21, but I won't bet on it.:D
BigWhiteJake
12-08-2005, 10:59 PM
yeah im glad an eisenhower product is insulting a katy products intelligence... let me see if i can reach him in his native tongue...
naw yo, aint no bruva mackin up on a sista in ktown dawg
sorry, i took spanish, not ebonics, if the translation is rough i can call in a pro... please enlighten me on what i said that was so dumb? did you not get the helen keller joke? were you unaware the texans are having a subpar year? do you just make random comments after your school fails to make the playoffs? if any of the above reply please let me know...
On a more serious note, BigdumbJake was clever... I like how you switched the adjective, that was nice... next try some rhyming...(i.e. eagledyke, bigwhitecake, etc.) or alliteration...wait lets just see if you can get rhyming first
eagleike
12-08-2005, 11:03 PM
I didn't say you were dumb. I said you were an idiot. Maybe a Katy grad could look up the definition of the two words.
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