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Northshore Stang Parent06
12-03-2005, 06:41 PM
Iam so glad that is all over with. Ha Ha Ha. That was pay back time that you all did to Northshore. Way to go Judson!!! The Rockets!!!!!!!

JRocketMan
12-03-2005, 06:43 PM
Iam so glad that is all over with. Ha Ha Ha. That was pay back time that you all did to Northshore. Way to go Judson!!! The Rockets!!!!!!!

Thank You..I just came from the game..And what happened is they met the best Defense in the state and the rest is history.

Mavs07
12-03-2005, 06:52 PM
Good job judson.... now go win state!!! rep 26-5 the way it should be

bullrock
12-03-2005, 06:55 PM
This is what I think happened. Judson played very physical today. Even though they were outsized, they were bringing the wood on every play. I'm not sure WF has been treated that way this year. Today was a typical 265 outing. You play your guts out and hope it is enough.

Slim-Rob
12-03-2005, 06:56 PM
That was one of the best games I have been to all year. Westfield played hard and my prayers go to Beasley, who hurt his leg in the first half.

lonny23
12-03-2005, 06:56 PM
Iam so glad that is all over with. Ha Ha Ha. That was pay back time that you all did to Northshore. Way to go Judson!!! The Rockets!!!!!!!
They played a better team. Judson wanted it more and prepared harder for the task at hand.

DirtyHarry01
12-03-2005, 07:34 PM
I thought the final score was 17-14. From reading all the guff, I'd have thought it was a blowout. NShore, you lost two years in a row to a team you were picked to defeat easily. So, you've got nothing to crow about, Judson beat them not you.

bullrock
12-03-2005, 07:50 PM
Let's put in perspective here Harry. We were 16 point underdogs in at least one poll and more or less in others. Take that into consideration and you could call it a blowout.

DirtyHarry01
12-03-2005, 08:30 PM
Perspective? On this bulletin board? Surely, you jest. You won by three (3) points. It was probably a very good game, and they were probably picked to beat you, but this is the playoff's, so anything can happen. Your team is to be congratulated, but jeez, if WF scores at the end of the game, you'd have lost. That's perspective, not all the hot-air I'm reading on this board.

lonny23
12-03-2005, 08:36 PM
Perspective? On this bulletin board? Surely, you jest. You won by three (3) points. It was probably a very good game, and they were probably picked to beat you, but this is the playoff's, so anything can happen. Your team is to be congratulated, but jeez, if WF scores at the end of the game, you'd have lost. That's perspective, not all the hot-air I'm reading on this board.
What you're reading is very mild. If you'd read everything that Houston has said about me over the last 2 years, you'd expect me to really be blasting them. I'm not going to do it, though.

bullrock
12-03-2005, 08:42 PM
1 point, 100 points. You know what? Now those numbers are the same. I think we're just happy we survived to play another week. And the score really doesn't matter. We will be playing next week. Bodega Bay???Is that on Mars? Never heard of it. But I've never been out of Bexar County so what would I know. If you're not happy reading all the "guff" as you so eloquently put it, just ignore the thread.;)

JRocketMan
12-03-2005, 09:00 PM
rocket Pride Is Alive & Well

dada
12-03-2005, 09:05 PM
Hats off too Judson....I'll take my crow

Mad Hatter
12-03-2005, 09:08 PM
Houston's just grumpy thats all its never fun win u have to swallow all that Crow at one time u know.

LoneRocket
12-03-2005, 09:11 PM
As I said you have to Believe in Rocket Pride, Rocket Pride means you never give up. You fight, dig, claw and always keep thinking until that one moment in time that one split second when your opponent makes a mistake and you capitalize on it.

Mad Hatter
12-03-2005, 09:14 PM
2002 title game anyone ?

North Shore Mustang
12-03-2005, 09:29 PM
Wow!

WAY TO GO JUDSON!!!!

My hats off to those Rockets!!! This season I thought they just had A rough one and were not going anywhere....

"NEVER GIVE UP" Is what they say! and they show it!

Go Rockets!!! WIN STATE!!!

As for Westfield....well tough loss...long road home.............................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .....

LoneRocket
12-03-2005, 09:30 PM
Like I said welcome to the Terrordome, the fans helped to made it hard to hear the snap count.

Plano Wildcat Fan
12-03-2005, 09:56 PM
Congrats to Judson. You guys stepped up and did what all great Programs do. You won when you shouldn't have. Just wish Plano could of hung on their at the end to have a "double shocker" today. How great would of that been!!:)

I gave you guys no chance today or to even make the playoffs. Hope you guys tie Plano on State Championships next week. Trinity is like Westfield Big phyiscal but very one dimensional.

GOOD LUCK!! GO ROCKETS!! PLANO FOR JUDSON!!:)

bullrock
12-03-2005, 10:01 PM
Thanks Wildcat. Tying the record of one of the greatest football programs in the state is not formost on our minds. A win would do that but it isn't something we dwell on. We're just babies when it comes to the Plano program. I was kinda hoping for a Wildcat victory this week so we could say "old school still has what it takes". Your team did something that no one could have ever predicted this year and you did at least give yourself a chance to win. I wasn't shocked at the halftime score I was hoping you would hang in there.

Plano Wildcat Fan
12-03-2005, 10:10 PM
Thanks Wildcat. Tying the record of one of the greatest football programs in the state is not formost on our minds. A win would do that but it isn't something we dwell on. We're just babies when it comes to the Plano program. I was kinda hoping for a Wildcat victory this week so we could say "old school still has what it takes". Your team did something that no one could have ever predicted this year and you did at least give yourself a chance to win. I wasn't shocked at the halftime score I was hoping you would hang in there.

Thanks for the compliment!! Plano got up 11 at 27-16. Turning point was a 3-11 at the Plano 30 when SLC QB was within a inch of a sack/losing his balance for a 12 yard loss. He somehow escaped the sack and kept his balance and fired a 25 yard pass to the Plano 8. They score 2 plays later get the 2 point converison and its 27-24 Plano with roughly 6 minutes to go in the third.

Plano had the ball 1st and 10 at their own 14 after getting their 3rd INT of the game with 5 minutes to go in the game down 31-27. They controlled their destiny but just got beat by a better team..

Good luck and beat Trinity. Those guys are very, very cocky! Bunch of Smack talkers.:)

tailgater
12-03-2005, 10:17 PM
Iam so glad that is all over with. Ha Ha Ha. That was pay back time that you all did to Northshore. Way to go Judson!!! The Rockets!!!!!!!


This is classless.

I feel bad for Westfield kids because this was their time to shine and they could not get it done. It was there for the taking for them. Yes, they beat my NS mustangs two years in a row - but that does not mean I will be happy because they lose. I was pulling them to win for alot of reasons - one being they are from Houston and the other if NS is going to lose - it may as well be to the eventful champion.

Yes - I am SHOCKED and saddened they lost. Great season Westfield.

Kudos to Converse Judson - hope you win state.

rebelman1507
12-05-2005, 02:55 AM
I thought the final score was 17-14. From reading all the guff, I'd have thought it was a blowout. NShore, you lost two years in a row to a team you were picked to defeat easily. So, you've got nothing to crow about, Judson beat them not you.
actually wasn't north shore 14 point underdogs this year.it was last year that ns was picked to win big and we all know how that turned out.

t00 playa
12-05-2005, 08:43 AM
who is crowing? besides.... judson didnt beat westfield... beasley's injury did. So dont act like world beaters.... take beasley out in the first half.. and for the rest of the game against NS and who wins? I don't buy it.:eek: You won and are moving on.... but dont talk too much smack... you didnt beat westfield with thier heart and soul leader of the team... which in turn made them a very beatable team.... :eek: good luck the rest of the way though..doesnt matter how you win... just that you do. My only problem is... dont talk too much smack when you know you got a lucky break in beasleys injury.... but hey.. thats how it goes.... congrats on moving on

bullrock
12-05-2005, 08:58 AM
This reminds me of when we played NS at Rice. I'm not too good with remembering years, but we smacked the NS QB on the opening kick-off and that's what won the game for us. From then on we were labeled cheap-shots. The way I see it, Houston doesn't play as physical as we do. Too-playa, with all due respect, were you at the game? I probably know the answer. WS looked very anemic until Beasley left the game. The back-up actually moved the ball better than he did. You call it what you want, we were manhandling him and he didn't want any more of it. True, the rest of the team may have played a little different after his injury, but we still had to finish the game and it was in doubt until the very end. We've seen our share of injuries this year and it cost us some games, but the Rockets have lived under this motto for a long time. "When the going gets tough, the tough get going". That is something I have never witnessed from the "Great" programs in Houston.

Mr_Lucci
12-05-2005, 09:03 AM
My only problem is... dont talk too much smack when you know you got a lucky break in beasleys injury.... but hey.. thats how it goes.... congrats on moving on


Yeah you must have not been there cause Judson was punishing them boys with hard hits . And how do you think Beasley got injured? Tripping over his own feet? Westfield got a good old fashioned whippin' . Sounds like that's what you need hijo de perra. Give props where they are do pendejo.

Mr_Lucci
12-05-2005, 09:05 AM
"When the going gets tough, the tough get going". That is something I have never witnessed from the "Great" programs in Houston.


Amen !!!!!

stangsfan
12-05-2005, 09:08 AM
Congratulations Converse Judson! It was your good fortune to have found the Achilles Heel of Westfield.

I’m probably get blasted for this post but another perspective is needed for all the Judson posts since the game. Judson has a great defense and the injury to Beasley wasn’t intentional regardless of the speculation; the play was right in front of me. Judson’s defense was indeed containing the Westfield offense but we had been there before with Northshore and overcame the problem later in the game with a fresh RB by the name of Dwayne Stewart. No one has asked where he was Saturday? Several starters including Stewart couldn’t play because of grades.

When Westfield’s Captain, QB Pierre Beasley went down we were done because the coaches really didn’t have his backup prepared. Austin Shaw, Westfield’s backup QB did the best he could for a guy who the coaches never had practice or play with the first string and never put in a game that was in question. It wasn’t his fault!

The difference occurred when Westfield was up 14 -10 on about the Judson 30 when Shaw rolled right and pitched to Sweeney who appeared wide open for a score. The pitch was fumbled and Judson scored instead If that pitch had been caught, Westfield may have scored and the game would have been 21 – 10.

I know, that’s a lot of IF’s but I wanted to share the game prospective from the Westfield side of the field. It seemed to be our year but it certainly wasn’t our day, the damn bus even caught fire leaving the stadium that sent players and coaches scrambling down 1604. Saturday sucked!!!

bubbacoach
12-05-2005, 09:11 AM
Did anyone else see or know the coaches name that was taunting the Judson crowd before the game. He looked like he was sending in the plays during the game. He was pounding on his chest and waving at the Judson crowd. Like "come on", you know the gesture. It was really stupid and he got what he had coming to him.

bubbacoach
12-05-2005, 09:13 AM
who is crowing? besides.... judson didnt beat westfield... beasley's injury did. So dont act like world beaters.... take beasley out in the first half.. and for the rest of the game against NS and who wins? I don't buy it.:eek: You won and are moving on.... but dont talk too much smack... you didnt beat westfield with thier heart and soul leader of the team... which in turn made them a very beatable team.... :eek: good luck the rest of the way though..doesnt matter how you win... just that you do. My only problem is... dont talk too much smack when you know you got a lucky break in beasleys injury.... but hey.. thats how it goes.... congrats on moving on
Boy you were not at the game. Judson was handling Westfield before Beasly left the game. I do not think they got a first down with him in the game.

JRocketMan
12-05-2005, 09:13 AM
I would like to Welcome back Mr_Lucci..Yeah man can you believe this..They still cant give JRoc their props..Judson put it on SW. They didnt get a first down until the second quarter and Beasley was playing.But why is it when we had to explain our 4 losses becuase of 13 starters being out..Repeat 13 starters nobody wanted to hear it..Now they lost 1 player in the second quarter..Repeat 1 player and with 10 to 12 other players already going to D1 college ball they still make excuses..What happend to the running game..Thats what SW thrives on..Just give Judson some respect for a bone crushing Defense..

bullrock
12-05-2005, 09:14 AM
Still on my soapbox here. I was at the Lufkin/CC game Friday night in Waco and guess what I saw? I saw a great QB get his arm broken. The odds were against the Panthers because they were fighting for thier lives against the Bulldawgs. Now, let me expalin what a winner does. The Panthers rallied around the back-up QB and never gave in. That my friend, is the true definition of a winner! I really got worried when Beasley went down because I thought the Mustangs would grab another gear, like the Panthers did, and really show us what they were made of. The truth is, we already saw all they had.

JRocketMan
12-05-2005, 09:16 AM
Bubba I saw him, he was way too cocky..I just want to know where were all their fans..For a team that was 10 in the nation, were was the support..Unless their support woke up and knew what was about to take place. All I saw was a Sea of RED..Once again this is the CONVERSE JUDSON ROCKETS.

bullrock
12-05-2005, 09:22 AM
I'm glad I didn't see him. I have a way of engaging with folks like that and nobody wins when it gets started. Maybe he was being taunted by some of the Rocket Boosters? In any case, like Bubba said, the last laugh was on him.
Stang, can you elaborate a little on the bus fire? My daughter said something about it but I really didn't hear her. My docter tells me I'm deaf to certain tones and one of them is a females voice. What caused the fire? It really must have been a long day.

dada
12-05-2005, 09:22 AM
Bubba I saw him, he was way too cocky..I just want to know where were all their fans..For a team that was 10 in the nation, were was the support..Unless their support woke up and knew what was about to take place. All I saw was a Sea of RED..Once again this is the CONVERSE JUDSON ROCKETS.
Houston fans don't travel....sad but true. Unless it's Katy. Big 12 championship, UH/Arizona Basketball game....plus all the other sports stuff going on around town...only Westfield fans. It's not like other areas where the whole community rallies around the team like a Lufkin or Katy. When a Houston area team travels.only that schools fanbase travels, not the city. Vince Young and Madison was the exception, because everyone wanted to see Vince...then again...all the games were in the dome..so who knows if fans would have followed. Judson had the better team last year and lost..I think Westfield had the better team this year and lost....like they say, that's why you play the game.

Favpack
12-05-2005, 09:25 AM
Houston fans don't travel....sad but true. Unless it's Katy. Big 12 championship, UH/Arizona Basketball game....plus all the other sports stuff going on around town...only Westfield fans. It's not like other areas where the whole community rallies around the team like a Lufkin or Katy. When a Houston area team travels.only that schools fanbase travels, not the city. Vince Young and Madison was the exception, because everyone wanted to see Vince...then again...all the games were in the dome..so who knows if fans would have followed. Judson had the better team last year and lost..I think Westfield had the better team this year and lost....like they say, that's why you play the game.

I didn't hear the attendance figures, but sad that a great school like Westfield - all 4,000 of 'em - can't get behind their team for a first state title. Sorry to hear about the injury - can certainly relate - but it appears SW peaked around the NS game.

stangsfan
12-05-2005, 09:26 AM
Bubba I saw him, he was way too cocky..I just want to know where were all their fans..For a team that was 10 in the nation, were was the support..Unless their support woke up and knew what was about to take place. All I saw was a Sea of RED..Once again this is the CONVERSE JUDSON ROCKETS.

Westfield doesn't have many fans and never did. On the otherhand, I was surprised the Judson side wasn't packed. I understand the stadium holds 10,000 with probably 6,000 on the home field side in 6 sections. The band and drill team took 2 sections which leaves 4,000 or so fans. Oh yeah, there may have been 100 or so in the end zone stands.

The way you guys talk I was expecting 10,000 or more with it in your back yard and all that history stuff.

dada
12-05-2005, 09:31 AM
Westfield doesn't have many fans and never did. On the otherhand, I was surprised the Judson side wasn't packed. I understand the stadium holds 10,000 with probably 6,000 on the home field side in 6 sections. The band and drill team took 2 sections which leaves 4,000 or so fans. Oh yeah, there may have been 100 or so in the end zone stands.

The way you guys talk I was expecting 10,000 or more with it in your back yard and all that history stuff.
Tully will be PACKED this weekend....with RED...

bullrock
12-05-2005, 09:31 AM
It was pretty stuffy where I was sitting. I can't say how it was everywhere else, but if I'd have thought there was room somewhere else, I would have certainly explored it. While the WF side wasn't full, I thought by the second quarter there were quite a few fans over there. I was surprised that many showed up after what I'd been hearing.

stangsfan
12-05-2005, 09:38 AM
It was pretty stuffy where I was sitting. I can't say how it was everywhere else, but if I'd have thought there was room somewhere else, I would have certainly explored it. While the WF side wasn't full, I thought by the second quarter there were quite a few fans over there. I was surprised that many showed up after what I'd been hearing.

To make matters worse and continue my enlighting string of excusses, the full band wasn't there either. They were hosting a regional competion at Westfield on Saturday. So many of their parents weren't there nor were the basketball team or their parents and followers because they were elsewhere in SA following Westfield in that sport. Maybe that was going on with Converse as well and why they didn't have the whole town there.

bullrock
12-05-2005, 09:44 AM
It's hard to spread all of your folks around when you have that much going on. That must expalin why so many people showed up as late as they did. Perhaps they left the basketball game and came over to watch the football game.

Mr_Lucci
12-05-2005, 11:22 AM
I would like to Welcome back Mr_Lucci..Yeah man can you believe this..They still cant give JRoc their props..Judson put it on SW. They didnt get a first down until the second quarter and Beasley was playing.But why is it when we had to explain our 4 losses becuase of 13 starters being out..Repeat 13 starters nobody wanted to hear it..Now they lost 1 player in the second quarter..Repeat 1 player and with 10 to 12 other players already going to D1 college ball they still make excuses..What happend to the running game..Thats what SW thrives on..Just give Judson some respect for a bone crushing Defense..


RocketMan don't call it a comeback,i've been here for years. That should be Judson's motto for this year. And you are right ,they won't give Judson props cause either Judson beat their teams in the past or they were just born haters.

JRocketMan
12-05-2005, 12:11 PM
Mr_Lucci, I guess its a no-brainer but still has to be asked...Will you be a part of this RED TIDAL WAVE to hit Round Rock?

lonny23
12-05-2005, 12:30 PM
Did anyone else see or know the coaches name that was taunting the Judson crowd before the game. He looked like he was sending in the plays during the game. He was pounding on his chest and waving at the Judson crowd. Like "come on", you know the gesture. It was really stupid and he got what he had coming to him.
I thought these guys had class?:confused: That's what the Judson fans said, but I never believed it.

stangsfan
12-05-2005, 01:04 PM
I thought these guys had class?:confused: That's what the Judson fans said, but I never believed it.

Does anyone have a picture of this taunting you speak of? I'm sure there were cameras everywhere. That's how I know Judson didn't fill the stands, I noticed it when looking at the pictures after the game.

dada
12-05-2005, 01:10 PM
Does anyone have a picture of this taunting you speak of? I'm sure there were cameras everywhere. That's how I know Judson didn't fill the stands, I noticed it when looking at the pictures after the game.
I think it said it was under 5,000 at the game.....was that much going on in SA this weekend that no one went to the game. I can understand Westfield's fan base not making the trip, but Judson should have had 5,000 alone.

bubbacoach
12-05-2005, 01:17 PM
I was sitting in the endzone because the judson side was so crowded.

TexasRed6x
12-05-2005, 01:33 PM
To make matters worse and continue my enlighting string of excusses, the full band wasn't there either. They were hosting a regional competion at Westfield on Saturday. So many of their parents weren't there nor were the basketball team or their parents and followers because they were elsewhere in SA following Westfield in that sport. Maybe that was going on with Converse as well and why they didn't have the whole town there.

Stangsfan-just wanted to say congrats on a great season, your team was very good no matter what the outcome Saturday. I have made all but one on Judson's game this year, and they played their best defense Saturday. The other games that we lost, it could of been worse but the defense always comes to play. I did not see any coaches doing anything wrong, but I did not keep my eyes on the WF sidelines to much, good game was going on the field. I do have a question for you though, was the head coach in an all red, jogging suit on the sidelines? I say him talkinig to Rackley, and thought he was your head coach.

B2BStateChamps92_93
12-05-2005, 03:13 PM
I think it said it was under 5,000 at the game.....was that much going on in SA this weekend that no one went to the game. I can understand Westfield's fan base not making the trip, but Judson should have had 5,000 alone.

The only thing that matters is that Judson brought enough fans to have SW commit at least 5 or so false starts because the stadium was so loud.

eingedikid
12-05-2005, 03:30 PM
don't call it a comeback,i've been here for years.
Judson gonna' rock them out
The Rockets gonna shock them out
Judson gonna' knock them out
And Euless ain't walkin' out

Seriously, though, cute as those rhymes are, that's the most boasting you'll ever get out of me either before or after the meeting in Round Rock. SGP did ding ET 35-28, but they've looked deadly from the get-go this season, averaging 46 PPG in the regular season, in a district that saw the three playoff entries each finish the regular season at 9-1. I would go as far to say that they have perhpas been the one team (other than Judson, of course) in D1 to have a legitimate shot at taking down WF.

It's going to require a monumental, Apollo 13-like Tiger Team effort for the Rockets to finish this mission, but we're here, and we didn't come this far just to burn up during re-entry.
So let's win this game! HEY! HEY

JRocketMan
12-05-2005, 03:32 PM
The only thing that matters is that Judson brought enough fans to have SW commit at least 5 or so false starts because the stadium was so loud.

Isnt that the truth..I was sitting at the 40 yd line, closest to the entrance and that was a beautiful thing..Any further they would have ended up in the parking lot or maybe in your lap..

stangsfan
12-05-2005, 03:48 PM
Stangsfan-just wanted to say congrats on a great season, your team was very good no matter what the outcome Saturday. I have made all but one on Judson's game this year, and they played their best defense Saturday. The other games that we lost, it could of been worse but the defense always comes to play. I did not see any coaches doing anything wrong, but I did not keep my eyes on the WF sidelines to much, good game was going on the field. I do have a question for you though, was the head coach in an all red, jogging suit on the sidelines? I say him talkinig to Rackley, and thought he was your head coach.

No it wasn't, coach Meekins was dressed like the other WF coaches, usually had a headset on and was yelling at the refs or sending in plays. The guy your probably refering to is the teams doctor, Dr. Perkins.

TexasRed6x
12-05-2005, 04:14 PM
No it wasn't, coach Meekins was dressed like the other WF coaches, usually had a headset on and was yelling at the refs or sending in plays. The guy your probably refering to is the teams doctor, Dr. Perkins.

Thanks for the insite, I thought that it couldn't have been since he was not on the field when Westfield was warminig up. Again you guys had a great team, and good luck in the future which I think is bright.

stangsfan
12-05-2005, 08:30 PM
Thanks for the insite, I thought that it couldn't have been since he was not on the field when Westfield was warminig up. Again you guys had a great team, and good luck in the future which I think is bright.

Congratulations to the Rockets! Good luck at State!
Wew, it's getting easier to say. The therapy session must be working already.

Let's see, where was I - it's just high school football...it's just...

westfieldfan23
12-05-2005, 09:39 PM
Thank You..I just came from the game..And what happened is they met the best Defense in the state and the rest is history.
we almost beat you with a horrible back up quarterback, Your defense is good but we had multiple chances to connect on long passes as well as bootleg passes that the backup could not even come close to completing. But injuries are part of the game so congrats to having luck on your side. But your defense is not even close to as good as northshores D.

Red Raiders
12-05-2005, 09:41 PM
They played a better team. Judson wanted it more and prepared harder for the task at hand.

Yep, Judson seem lazy in the begin of the season and than the end they were all hyped and ready, wierd?

westfieldfan23
12-05-2005, 09:43 PM
Does anyone know why westfields back up RB D. Stewart didn't play in the judson game? He really helped when both of the previous two playoff games for westfield he gives the offense tremendous spark off the bench!!

lonny23
12-05-2005, 09:46 PM
we almost beat you with a horrible back up quarterback, Your defense is good but we had multiple chances to connect on long passes as well as bootleg passes that the backup could not even come close to completing. But injuries are part of the game so congrats to having luck on your side. But your defense is not even close to as good as northshores D.
How come we held your running game in check better than North Shore did?

eingedikid
12-05-2005, 09:46 PM
Congratulations to the Rockets! Good luck at State!
Wew, it's getting easier to say. The therapy session must be working already.

Why not hop on over to Round Rock on saturday and become a "Rocket for a Day"? I went and joined the Westfield contingent last year and became a "Mustang for a day." I thoroughly enjoyed the opportunity to be with everyone over there, it was great therapy following the Rockets' malfunction the week before, and I was fully prepared to do so again this year pending last Saturday's outcome.

We're all still Americans for one and above all children of God for another. That tops everything.

JRocketMan
12-05-2005, 09:47 PM
Im really glad u have love for NorthShore because there from HTown..But do u see who started this thread..My man, u know what, your right, our defense is ok but most of the time horrible..Does that make the pain go away...Time to move on and prepare for next year..Your QB problems are not my problem..Like you said u had chances..Should have capitalized..Once again if we lost and had excuses, what would you be saying right now..Exactly..Good try...

westfieldfan23
12-05-2005, 09:50 PM
who is crowing? besides.... judson didnt beat westfield... beasley's injury did. So dont act like world beaters.... take beasley out in the first half.. and for the rest of the game against NS and who wins? I don't buy it.:eek: You won and are moving on.... but dont talk too much smack... you didnt beat westfield with thier heart and soul leader of the team... which in turn made them a very beatable team.... :eek: good luck the rest of the way though..doesnt matter how you win... just that you do. My only problem is... dont talk too much smack when you know you got a lucky break in beasleys injury.... but hey.. thats how it goes.... congrats on moving on
I couldn't have said it better! Not only did beasley not play but Their back up running back Stewart that did so well against NS did not even make the trip either. Taking beasley away from westfield is like taking V. Young away from texas, he is that IMPORTANT to us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! As much depth as WF has thier achillies heel was the QB position.....

JRocketMan
12-05-2005, 09:54 PM
I couldn't have said it better! Not only did beasley not play but Their back up running back Stewart that did so well against NS did not even make the trip either. Taking beasley away from westfield is like taking V. Young away from texas, he is that IMPORTANT to us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! As much depth as WF has thier achillies heel was the QB position.....

Man..Its over..Its done..Lonny, sign this cat up for a therapy session..Lonny what are the hourly rates? Maybe do it for free..He needs some Rocket Pride..Pick him up and bring him to Round Rock Saturday..It might ease the pain.

westfieldfan23
12-05-2005, 09:56 PM
How come we held your running game in check better than North Shore did?
Because your coaching staff knew are back up QB could not throw the Ball down the field, therefore judson had 7-8 men in the box the hole game making us one dementional. I would give the judson coaching staff alot of credit for a great gameplan especially once beasley was hurt, as opposed to having the best defense that westfield has played. But with all that said I still give congrats to judson and hope the bring the title home and at least keep it in the southern part of the state:)

Oiler1
12-05-2005, 10:02 PM
I watched WF play numerous games and they are an extemely good team. That said however, losing Beasley was like UT losing Vince Young. He is that much of an impact player and regardless of all the comments that its a team effort does not hold water when losing a star player. If he had not played the NS game you would have been playing NS instead of Westfield because he literally carried WF down the field on several huge drives. There is no way a high school team can have enough depth at QB to replace a star player like Beasley. Sorry but thats just fact and its also fact that Judson won. Bad break for WF and hopefully not a future ending injury for a great athlete such as Beasley. Congrads Judson and good luck at state.

JRocketMan
12-05-2005, 10:02 PM
Because your coaching staff knew are back up QB could not throw the Ball down the field, therefore judson had 7-8 men in the box the hole game making us one dementional. I would give the judson coaching staff alot of credit for a great gameplan especially once beasley was hurt, as opposed to having the best defense that westfield has played. But with all that said I still give congrats to judson and hope the bring the title home and at least keep it in the southern part of the state:)

Are u joking..You are a true comedian..I cant even comment on this response..Lonny do u want this..Im done..I moved on to Trinity now..Oh yeah..Here is a referal for therapy..I know this guy named Lonny, he'll help u out..Just stay put and dont move...

westfieldfan23
12-05-2005, 10:05 PM
Are u joking..You are a true comedian..I cant even comment on this response..Lonny do u want this..Im done..I moved on to Trinity now..Oh yeah..Here is a referal for therapy..I know this guy named Lonny, he'll help u out..Just stay put and dont move...

Truth hurts don't it!!!!

JRocketMan
12-05-2005, 10:08 PM
Truth hurts don't it!!!!

Yeah your exactly right..I guess reality still hasnt sunk in yet..I think u need a hug and some therapy...Good luck next season..

DiamondJ2
12-06-2005, 12:19 AM
7 players in the box, well, that seems like a normal defense since we had 4 secondary guys. Nothing unusual in that defense. Rockets just filled the gaps with LB's and basically shut down the run. Guess the SW O-line couldn't handle the slow speed and under talented Rockets defense. Injureies are part of the game, as Judson well knows this year. SW had a great run, but the old tradition came through against the trying to establish tradition.

JudsonStud19
12-06-2005, 12:31 AM
Everybody gets hurt. Its part of the game. Just becuase your qb got hurt isnt the reason yall lost. If you couldnt tell... We were shutting him down too. The only offense yall had the whole game seem to have came from your back up with that one touchdown he threw... Good game on both sides... The better team won... We wanted it more thats all.

TrojanHorse03
12-06-2005, 12:34 AM
For a team that felt it was D1 champions already, Westfield sure is whiney.

dada
12-06-2005, 06:53 AM
Does anyone know why westfields back up RB D. Stewart didn't play in the judson game? He really helped when both of the previous two playoff games for westfield he gives the offense tremendous spark off the bench!!
I said along time ago that I liked Stewart. He will be back next year. Sweeny is very speedy, but he takes his time looking for the hole first.....Steward MAKES his holes.....he was the spark in the Cy-Fair game. The whole crowd would stand up and cheer when he came into the game. Taking nothing away from Sweeny though.

lonny23
12-06-2005, 07:53 AM
I couldn't have said it better! Not only did beasley not play but Their back up running back Stewart that did so well against NS did not even make the trip either. Taking beasley away from westfield is like taking V. Young away from texas, he is that IMPORTANT to us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! As much depth as WF has thier achillies heel was the QB position.....
I know you guys are giving us a little credit, but you sure are crying a lot.

stangsfan
12-06-2005, 07:55 AM
Why not hop on over to Round Rock on saturday and become a "Rocket for a Day"? I went and joined the Westfield contingent last year and became a "Mustang for a day." I thoroughly enjoyed the opportunity to be with everyone over there, it was great therapy following the Rockets' malfunction the week before, and I was fully prepared to do so again this year pending last Saturday's outcome.

We're all still Americans for one and above all children of God for another. That tops everything.

Thanks for the suggestion, it's a good thought. My therapist and banker suggest that I queue the tivo for the D1 game and go see Katy/SV. It's much closer, costs less, won't reopen the wound, etc.

Good luck at state! I almost did it that time without a flinch. :o

lonny23
12-06-2005, 07:55 AM
Man..Its over..Its done..Lonny, sign this cat up for a therapy session..Lonny what are the hourly rates? Maybe do it for free..He needs some Rocket Pride..Pick him up and bring him to Round Rock Saturday..It might ease the pain.
Now you know why I wanted them to lose so bad last year. These guys can't handle that SA beats them in football. Boys, those losses are going to keep building up. SV and Judson are going to run roughshod over the lower half of the bracket for a while.

lonny23
12-06-2005, 07:57 AM
Because your coaching staff knew are back up QB could not throw the Ball down the field, therefore judson had 7-8 men in the box the hole game making us one dementional. I would give the judson coaching staff alot of credit for a great gameplan especially once beasley was hurt, as opposed to having the best defense that westfield has played. But with all that said I still give congrats to judson and hope the bring the title home and at least keep it in the southern part of the state:)
A lack of depth? Not enough coaching for the backup? Good preparation by the Judson coaches? One-dimensional coaching? That just means Judson is the better team!:D

stangsfan
12-06-2005, 07:58 AM
I said along time ago that I liked Stewart. He will be back next year. Sweeny is very speedy, but he takes his time looking for the hole first.....Steward MAKES his holes.....he was the spark in the Cy-Fair game. The whole crowd would stand up and cheer when he came into the game. Taking nothing away from Sweeny though.

As I stated in another post, Stewart and others were not able to play because of academic suspension. :mad:

bullrock
12-06-2005, 08:01 AM
We went through all of that stang. It just happened to be earlier in the year. Thank God they got it together for the play-offs!

stangsfan
12-06-2005, 08:04 AM
A lack of depth? Not enough coaching for the backup? Good preparation by the Judson coaches? One-dimensional coaching? That just means Judson is the better team!:D

Lonny, your team was better on Saturday! I realize this sounds like excusses but could you at least consider that some of is an honest attempt to disect what went wrong from a Westfield fan prospective. Usually that means we don't give you guys enough credit especially when our Vince went down.

Judson_Dad
12-06-2005, 08:05 AM
Ok, you can say all you want about your QB, but tell me how many yards did he get BEFORE his injury? Your back-up QB is the one that took care of SW. Last year, you and your fans talked way too much BS:mad: after you beat us so now the tables are turned so deal with it.:D We are done with you and are now looking towards next week because you are in the PAST.

stangsfan
12-06-2005, 08:32 AM
We went through all of that stang. It just happened to be earlier in the year. Thank God they got it together for the play-offs!

As they say, timing is everything!

eastside football
12-06-2005, 08:37 AM
Not to take anyhting away from Judson but surely even the Rocket faithful would agree that Westfield was without many of their weapons for the game. The North Shore-Westfield game was 14-9 North Shore going into the 4th quarter. North Shore's defense had contained them for 3 quarters until a young back named Dwayne Stewart came in a rushed for 2 touchdowns and 72 yards on 7 carries all in the 4th. Beasley rushed for 103 yards through the course of the game. Take those two players away and your left with Sweeny's 25 carries for 91 yards, and that's without North Shore's ability to stack 8 in the box because a back- up QB was in the game. Comparing NS and Judson' defense based on their performances against Westfield is like comparing apples to oranges!

However, Judson is Judson. You don't have to just defend their team, you have to defend their program and that's how it's been for years. Westfield had a great team this year, Judson has a great program! Back in 1996 when Judson beat North Shore in the semi-finals they went on to get crushed by Lewisville and I don't see this year being any different. Although I will be pulling for Judson, I see Trinity winning big (as long as they stay healthy). Good luck to both teams.

stangsfan
12-06-2005, 08:40 AM
Ok, you can say all you want about your QB, but tell me how many yards did he get BEFORE his injury? Your back-up QB is the one that took care of SW. Last year, you and your fans talked way too much BS:mad: after you beat us so now the tables are turned so deal with it.:D We are done with you and are now looking towards next week because you are in the PAST.

As I have said before, when Westfield faces a tough defense like Judson, they become like Rocky - they take a beating in the first half and bring in fresh legs in the second half hoping their offensive depth is greater than your defensive depth when your defense is worn down. That strategy became difficult to impossible without Beasley.

I'm trying to give prospective and a counter to the argument that you 'beat a very good Westfield'; WF was far from good offensively on Saturday.

stangsfan
12-06-2005, 08:43 AM
Not to take anyhting away from Judson but surely even the Rocket faithful would agree that Westfield was without many of their weapons for the game. The North Shore-Westfield game was 14-9 North Shore going into the 4th quarter. North Shore's defense had contained them for 3 quarters until a young back named Dwayne Stewart came in a rushed for 2 touchdowns and 72 yards on 7 carries all in the 4th. Beasley rushed for 103 yards through the course of the game. Take those two players away and your left with Sweeny's 25 carries for 91 yards, and that's without North Shore's ability to stack 8 in the box because a back- up QB was in the game. Comparing NS and Judson' defense based on their performances against Westfield is like comparing apples to oranges!


Your comparison is excellent, thanks!

lonny23
12-06-2005, 08:44 AM
Are u joking..You are a true comedian..I cant even comment on this response..Lonny do u want this..Im done..I moved on to Trinity now..Oh yeah..Here is a referal for therapy..I know this guy named Lonny, he'll help u out..Just stay put and dont move...
I have my own fights. Why do I have to fight your fights, too?:D

lonny23
12-06-2005, 08:47 AM
Lonny, your team was better on Saturday! I realize this sounds like excusses but could you at least consider that some of is an honest attempt to disect what went wrong from a Westfield fan prospective. Usually that means we don't give you guys enough credit especially when our Vince went down.
I'll agree with you that certain things make it harder to win.

Rocketman
12-06-2005, 09:10 AM
People that's why you play the game..........it is what it is and Westfield got beat on saturday enough said, Rockets lets move onto the state game now.... Westfield good luck in Basketball this year.....

stangsfan
12-06-2005, 09:25 AM
People that's why you play the game..........it is what it is and Westfield got beat on saturday enough said, Rockets lets move onto the state game now.... Westfield good luck in Basketball this year.....

Thanks for the b-ball prop, I for one agree it's time to move on!
See I told therapy works...anyway, I like bullrocks analysis (another thread)comparing the Trinity RB to Beasley as what must be done to slow the Trinity offense.

cyfallsbooster
12-06-2005, 11:16 AM
My docter tells me I'm deaf to certain tones and one of them is a females voice.
LUCKY!!!!! think i can get my wife to believe that is possible?

cyfallsbooster
12-06-2005, 11:28 AM
For a team that felt it was D1 champions already, Westfield sure is whiney.
what makes you think they felt that way. i can not recall any wf posters even being on this board during the playoffs. i also do not believe you can classify their current comments as whinning. it seems to me (an outsider) that they are maybe getting fed up with all the smack talk coming from several sore-winner judson fans. i kinda am too. some posters just keep building the case for the judson-haters.

i hope players on both sides make themselves and fans proud next week and stay injury free.

cyfallsbooster
12-06-2005, 11:32 AM
Stangsfan-just wanted to say congrats on a great season, your team was very good no matter what the outcome Saturday. I have made all but one on Judson's game this year, and they played their best defense Saturday. The other games that we lost, it could of been worse but the defense always comes to play. I did not see any coaches doing anything wrong, but I did not keep my eyes on the WF sidelines to much, good game was going on the field. I do have a question for you though, was the head coach in an all red, jogging suit on the sidelines? I say him talkinig to Rackley, and thought he was your head coach.
this is a very good hs football post. i like this. it is so much better for the kids in the programs. after all, isn't hs football for the kids? i thought so anyways.

cyfallsbooster
12-06-2005, 11:37 AM
we almost beat you with a horrible back up quarterback, Your defense is good but we had multiple chances to connect on long passes as well as bootleg passes that the backup could not even come close to completing. But injuries are part of the game so congrats to having luck on your side. But your defense is not even close to as good as northshores D.
excuse me?!!!! "horrible backup qb"?!!! i do not appreciate you tagging my nephew like that. from everything i have read and heard (several sources), Austin seemed to be more than capable. you need to stop posting, cause you apparently have no idea what you are talking about.

TrojanHorse03
12-06-2005, 11:40 AM
excuse me?!!!! "horrible backup qb"?!!! i do not appreciate you tagging my nephew like that. from everything i have read and heard (several sources), Austin seemed to be more than capable. you need to stop posting, cause you apparently have no idea what you are talking about.

Now everything makes since ^. Because I know u had to be a lil dilusional to suggest that the Westfield posters weren't acting like they already had state sowed up.

TheDuke
12-06-2005, 11:46 AM
Good Job Judson BUT, Beasley plays the entire game you lose, doesn't anyone agree?

JRocketMan
12-06-2005, 11:47 AM
Oh you didnt know..Westfield had State sowed up since preseason. I heard they were already doing ring sizing...Remember they went 11-0 and averaged 400 plus yards a game with a massive amount of weapons..But one weapon down and thats why they lost..

JRocketMan
12-06-2005, 11:50 AM
Enough of the could of, would of, should of...No one can tell what would have happened if Beasley was in..SW was winning in the 4th..Sweeney fumbled and thats what broke your back..Like EA Sports says..Its all in the Game..

cyfallsbooster
12-06-2005, 11:51 AM
Now everything makes since ^. Because I know u had to be a lil dilusional to suggest that the Westfield posters weren't acting like they already had state sowed up.
Read both posts on that issue. read theirs and then mine. i believe they said "westfield", period. i questioned THAT alone. yes i know and agree that several other POSTERS from OTHER programs boasted of wf's abilities, i was one also. i just never saw any people FROM wf posting anything about winning state. maybe stangsfan is an exception, but i thought he was a NS supporter. sorry if i insulted you, stangsfan.

TrojanHorse03
12-06-2005, 11:52 AM
Good Job Judson BUT, Beasley plays the entire game you lose, doesn't anyone agree?

We'll never know, thats only an assumtion. For all anybody know's Judson defense would of stymied him in the seond half like they did in the first. I'm surprised Westfield wasn't as resilient as Katy. It was sumthing like 28-7 Falls at one point, and they blocked a punt around a minute left in the ball game. For a team that was ranked so high, and considering the stakes, I'm surprised they couldn't be more resourceful especially in creating more turnovers.

JRocketMan
12-06-2005, 12:00 PM
We'll never know, thats only an assumtion. For all anybody know's Judson defense would of stymied him in the seond half like they did in the first. I'm surprised Westfield wasn't as resilient as Katy. It was sumthing like 28-7 Falls at one point, and they blocked a punt around a minute left in the ball game. For a team that was ranked so high, and considering the stakes, I'm surprised they couldn't be more resourceful especially in creating more turnovers.

Couldnt Have said it better..

gldneagles
12-06-2005, 08:26 PM
sore-winners all the way. it just makes me want to puke to read judson fans' posts after a win. judson program has NO CLASS!!!!! bullrock is the only poster i have any respect for and loonie23 has done much better this year. all others can kma!

gldneagles
12-06-2005, 08:32 PM
previous statement made based on the posters. nothing else. i would suspect that the kids who attend judson would not post that kind of crap and therefore i would respect them. the people who post on here who are not members of the team and bring all the crap really do a disservice to the program. simple.

PurpleNation
12-06-2005, 08:33 PM
sore-winners all the way. it just makes me want to puke to read judson fans' posts after a win. judson program has NO CLASS!!!!! bullrock is the only poster i have any respect for and loonie23 has done much better this year. all others can kma!

How about the people from Houston complaining about well if Beasly would not have got hurt then SW would have won. Lufkin lost there starting QB Claybon and we still won. Nobody gave Judson a shot but a couple of people on this board and I was one of them. Westfield was not as dangerouse as they were made out to be.

gldneagles
12-06-2005, 08:42 PM
How about the people from Houston complaining about well if Beasly would not have got hurt then SW would have won. Lufkin lost there starting QB Claybon and we still won. Nobody gave Judson a shot but a couple of people on this board and I was one of them. Westfield was not as dangerouse as they were made out to be.
i do not question the lufkin program. it is just as good or better than any in the state. i do not question that wf should have won even if beasly was hurt, stewart was out and a few others. NO QUESTION ON THOSE POINTS. if a true champion, they should have overcome. my statements have only to do with the attitude judson POSTERS come across with after a win. it makes us that believe hs football is for hs kids really get turned off to the whole deal. you can see it in judson and slc posters. it just turns us hs football fans off. nothing more, nothing LESS!

stangsfan
12-06-2005, 08:47 PM
Read both posts on that issue. read theirs and then mine. i believe they said "westfield", period. i questioned THAT alone. yes i know and agree that several other POSTERS from OTHER programs boasted of wf's abilities, i was one also. i just never saw any people FROM wf posting anything about winning state. maybe stangsfan is an exception, but i thought he was a NS supporter. sorry if i insulted you, stangsfan.

I'm not insulted, I am a Westfield fan and I don't recall saying that Westfield would win State. It doesn't matter now!

I did get some therapy tonight watching Westfield's b-ball team beat Klien Collins.

ThEgReAtOnE
12-06-2005, 08:52 PM
Beasely was hurt in the first half...and 3 or 4 other starters weren't playing, due to ineligibility.....with that said, a 3 point victory is not something to gloat about!!!

Take Matt Leinart or Vince Young away from their team their teams then become vulnerable!!!

Goodluck Judson, but WF - when their team is intact and healthy - is unbeatable!

gldneagles
12-06-2005, 08:58 PM
I'm not insulted, I am a Westfield fan and I don't recall saying that Westfield would win State. It doesn't matter now!

I did get some therapy tonight watching Westfield's b-ball team beat Klien Collins.
hope our hoopsters can make it to see your guys this year. no, not really. too much vertical on yall's part!

gldneagles
12-06-2005, 09:03 PM
I'm not insulted, I am a Westfield fan and I don't recall saying that Westfield would win State. It doesn't matter now!

I did get some therapy tonight watching Westfield's b-ball team beat Klien Collins.
there were alot of other region 3 supporters on here who were touting wf as state winner. my self included. i never saw a single wf poster saying anything about winning state. hats off to wf. judson (due to a few posters) can kma.

PurpleNation
12-06-2005, 09:06 PM
Beasely was hurt in the first half...and 3 or 4 other starters weren't playing, due to ineligibility.....with that said, a 3 point victory is not something to gloat about!!!

Take Matt Leinart or Vince Young away from their team their teams then become vulnerable!!!

Goodluck Judson, but WF - when their team is intact and healthy - is unbeatable!


Thats part of the game. For SW to be so dominate they sure do depend on one person. Lufkin would have ate SW up by atleast 20 this year.

gldneagles
12-06-2005, 09:11 PM
Thats part of the game. For SW to be so dominate they sure do depend on one person. Lufkin would have ate SW up by atleast 20 this year.
real easy to post now. is it not?

gldneagles
12-06-2005, 09:14 PM
Thats part of the game. For SW to be so dominate they sure do depend on one person. Lufkin would have ate SW up by atleast 20 this year.
also, pay attention to EVERYONE that were missing this week. again. to be a champion, one must overcome these setbacks.

tailgater
12-06-2005, 09:15 PM
[QUOTE=ThEgReAtOnE]Beasely was hurt in the first half...and 3 or 4 other starters weren't playing, due to ineligibility.....with that said, a 3 point victory is not something to gloat about!!!


What! 3 or 4 staters were ineligible. Were they ineligible the week before or the week before that? Why were they ineligible this past week and not the others? Something fishy here. Seems that Westfield may have played some games with ineligible players.

t00 playa
12-06-2005, 09:15 PM
Beasely was hurt in the first half...and 3 or 4 other starters weren't playing, due to ineligibility.....with that said, a 3 point victory is not something to gloat about!!!

Take Matt Leinart or Vince Young away from their team their teams then become vulnerable!!!

Goodluck Judson, but WF - when their team is intact and healthy - is unbeatable!

That was exactly my point....and no other.... all the SA posters talking about how GREAT this win was and how they slayed the dragon that everyone touted as unbeatable... yes.. they slayed it.. but with so many key players out, and especially beasely who runs the team.... they had a three point win over a team that was done in by injuries and inelgibility.... and ill continue to stand by what i said..... SA posters cant talk about how we houston ppl did all this talking this and that and how they beat the "unbeatable westfield" ... well... JUDSON didnt face the same Westfield team that the houston area teams faced all year... plain and simple... in fact.. they didnt face near the same team that houston area teams faced all year.... because like i said. i have no problem with them losing.. and i have no problem giving judson credit..because i do.. its just the posters that gloat all high and mighty about how judson beat the GREAT westfield etc etc.. because they didnt beat the great team houston area faced all year.. they beat a team that with injuries and other problems .. was reduced to average....:eek:

late

PurpleNation
12-06-2005, 09:15 PM
real easy to post now. is it not?


You can go back and check I had Judson beating SW. SW was never just that good to me. The best football is played in The Dallas/East Texas area.

t00 playa
12-06-2005, 09:16 PM
Thats part of the game. For SW to be so dominate they sure do depend on one person. Lufkin would have ate SW up by atleast 20 this year.


a westfield with all thier guns? you must be outside your mind.:eek:

PurpleNation
12-06-2005, 09:17 PM
SW in one word besides good-bye is Overrated (LOL)

gldneagles
12-06-2005, 09:22 PM
You can go back and check I had Judson beating SW. SW was never just that good to me. The best football is played in The Dallas/East Texas area.
no problem with the "nation" here. i believe it 100%. like i said, my only problem is with the several judson posters who can not give any respect to any other team or program. THEY generate the judson-haters.

gldneagles
12-06-2005, 09:25 PM
[QUOTE=ThEgReAtOnE]Beasely was hurt in the first half...and 3 or 4 other starters weren't playing, due to ineligibility.....with that said, a 3 point victory is not something to gloat about!!!


What! 3 or 4 staters were ineligible. Were they ineligible the week before or the week before that? Why were they ineligible this past week and not the others? Something fishy here. Seems that Westfield may have played some games with ineligible players.
know what you are talking about before you post.

stangsfan
12-06-2005, 10:28 PM
[QUOTE=ThEgReAtOnE]Beasely was hurt in the first half...and 3 or 4 other starters weren't playing, due to ineligibility.....with that said, a 3 point victory is not something to gloat about!!!


What! 3 or 4 staters were ineligible. Were they ineligible the week before or the week before that? Why were they ineligible this past week and not the others? Something fishy here. Seems that Westfield may have played some games with ineligible players.

Okay, I don't know the exact rules but they were out for the games they were suppose to be out. Something about holidays, etc.

stangsfan
12-06-2005, 10:38 PM
Thats part of the game. For SW to be so dominate they sure do depend on one person. Lufkin would have ate SW up by atleast 20 this year.

Without looking it up, you probably can't even name the backup QB for Texas or USC. Or closer to home, when Reggie McNeal was leading the Pack and if he had gone down...what then? Your offense would have stuggled without Reggie, that's all were saying here.

TrojanHorse03
12-06-2005, 10:41 PM
How about the people from Houston complaining about well if Beasly would not have got hurt then SW would have won. Lufkin lost there starting QB Claybon and we still won. Nobody gave Judson a shot but a couple of people on this board and I was one of them. Westfield was not as dangerouse as they were made out to be.

Yeah I forgot all about that, o that's right because Lufkin isn't b-tching about Claybon going down. Lufkin did what it had do get a victory versus an opponent that was good, too.

PurpleNation
12-06-2005, 10:45 PM
Without looking it up, you probably can't even name the backup QB for Texas or USC. Or closer to home, when Reggie McNeal was leading the Pack and if he had gone down...what then? Your offense would have stuggled without Reggie, that's all were saying here.


No I dont have to look it up. Matt Nydoren(SP) from Dallas Bishop Lynch he wear #7. And for USC is John David Booty he played for ECA (FYI) Lufkin played against ECA when they had Booty dont you fell stupid now. Send Westfield a get well card cause there season is over.

stangsfan
12-06-2005, 10:45 PM
Yeah I forgot all about that, o that's right because Lufkin isn't b-tching about Claybon going down. Lufkin did what it had do get a victory versus an opponent that was good, too.

I doubt that Claybon is a Reggie type of contributor, so the impact is less. Beasley was a Reggie type of player for Westfield.

PurpleNation
12-06-2005, 10:46 PM
Yeah I forgot all about that, o that's right because Lufkin isn't b-tching about Claybon going down. Lufkin did what it had do get a victory versus an opponent that was good, too.


Thats right we did loose Claybon but dont tell that to the StangsFan cause he will just cry. Didnt NS loose already shouldnt you be supporting the b ball team yet.

TrojanHorse03
12-06-2005, 10:47 PM
I doubt that Claybon is a Reggie type of contributor, so the impact is less. Beasley was a Reggie type of player for Westfield.

LOL, um Jeremy Claybon broke Reggie's record for touchdowns in a season vs. Cove, I bet u feel a lil embarassed.

PurpleNation
12-06-2005, 10:48 PM
I doubt that Claybon is a Reggie type of contributor, so the impact is less. Beasley was a Reggie type of player for Westfield.


Man do you look even more stupid now. Claybon just broke Reggies passing record for TD's in a single season and is a better QB then Beasly why becuase his team is still playing with less talent(Yeah Right). Please Beasly was never Reggie McNeal caliber.

Claybon over Beasly anyday

stangsfan
12-06-2005, 10:48 PM
No I dont have to look it up. Matt Nydoren(SP) from Dallas Bishop Lynch he wear #7. And for USC is John David Booty he played for ECA (FYI) Lufkin played against ECA when they had Booty dont you fell stupid now. Send Westfield a get well card cause there season is over.

Never mind, you totally miss the point. It was about level of contribution and driving force behind the offense. Maybe you'll do better with the Reggie comparison.

PurpleNation
12-06-2005, 10:49 PM
LOL, um Jeremy Claybon broke Reggie's record for touchdowns in a season vs. Cove, I bet u feel a lil embarassed.


Like I said the boy is in denial. Goodluck against Judson them boys can play.

PurpleNation
12-06-2005, 10:52 PM
Never mind, you totally miss the point. It was about level of contribution and driving force behind the offense. Maybe you'll do better with the Reggie comparison.


What are you talking about. Claybon is just as good as R Mac was when he was a JR. Reggie's JR season was no wear near as good as the season Claybon is having. Jeremy the next best thing no he is just making a name fore himself.

stangsfan
12-06-2005, 11:00 PM
Like I said the boy is in denial. Goodluck against Judson them boys can play.

Verses Cove, that's one game! I just recall all the Reggie talk in Houston during his day and nothing here about Claybon.

I've said I was done with this before and I keep getting back into it.
It's not crying but analyzing how and why the wheels came off.

DiamondJ2
12-06-2005, 11:03 PM
If they were ineligible, the time for that to occur would be the Friday after the six weeks ends which according to SW calender the 2nd six weeks ended on November 4th making any student who failed the 2nd six weeks ineligible at the end of the school day on November 11 ( holidays do not play into the Judson game). If that was the case, then those players have been missing since the playoffs began. So goldeneagle, something isn't right as far as elgibility time span is concerned.

SW had a good team; injury to QB probably made a difference; th SW lines were controlled by Judson for most of the day. I realize having the QB would have mixed up the plays a little better, but he wasn't the one blocking or lack thereof for the RB's. Injuries happen, ask Judson and Lufkin who have both suffered through injury losses. Judson doesn't have all of their starters back yet--two are gone for the season and one was dismmissed because of reasons outside of school. With a talented laden team like SW, I would expect them to overcome one injury and beat a 4 loss team. Yes, some Judson posters just as some Mustang posters are a little over zealous, but most realize the game was a great victory for Judson who has overcome many obstacles throughout the season.

Oiler1
12-07-2005, 09:56 AM
What are you talking about. Claybon is just as good as R Mac was when he was a JR. Reggie's JR season was no wear near as good as the season Claybon is having. Jeremy the next best thing no he is just making a name fore himself.

After your comments towards SW and obviously not watching the SW and NS game, I regret picking Lufkin in the bracket now. If your team gets it handed to them this week, don't even mention the loss of your QB. Obviously I would not have picked Lufkin had the QB been down before the brackets were made. Its strickly analysis when a team loses without the same players that brought them there and Judson did not play the same team that NS played when it was all said and done. Beasley wasn't the main weapon but he was huge piece of what made SW successful. Its not rocket science that if you can neutralize a teams offensive weapons, you have a better chance of winning (its all about that one dimensional thing).

bullrock
12-07-2005, 10:07 AM
Oiler, don't you think neutralizing an opponents offensive playmakers is first and foremost on a defensive co-ordinators mind? That's how you win. I don't know if you were at the game Saturday, but the Judson defense already had Beasley "in check" before he got injured. If we were going to lose, he wasn't going to be the one who beat us. I keep hearing how we got lucky and only played half of WF team. I always saw 11 boys on each side of the ball every snap. We don't always have our first options available to us either, but how you respond is what separates the good teams from the wanna-bes. I don't want to start a fight because I have a lot of respect for the WF team, coaches and fans. That's just the way the cookie crumbles. Football is a contact sport and unfortunatley there are injuries to contend with.

Evil47
12-07-2005, 10:25 AM
Spring Westfield No.2 Lost against Converse Judson Not even on the top 25......wtf......I think 5atexasfootball.com got to put Converse Judson at no.2 and take SW off the list.

lonny23
12-07-2005, 10:35 AM
sore-winners all the way. it just makes me want to puke to read judson fans' posts after a win. judson program has NO CLASS!!!!! bullrock is the only poster i have any respect for and loonie23 has done much better this year. all others can kma!
Thanks. One thing you need to keep in mind is that all teams have new posters come on the website in the middle of a playoff run. Some new posters are great and some new posters don't make themselves welcome.

TexasRed6x
12-07-2005, 10:35 AM
Beasely was hurt in the first half...and 3 or 4 other starters weren't playing, due to ineligibility.....with that said, a 3 point victory is not something to gloat about!!!

Take Matt Leinart or Vince Young away from their team their teams then become vulnerable!!!

Goodluck Judson, but WF - when their team is intact and healthy - is unbeatable!

Could really care less at this point that you think WF was unbeatable, they won't be playing anymore games this year period. Judson had many, many kids out and still had some out Saturday, but they still won. Wf was a good team, but they got beat, and your comment about not getting beat, well you will never know. FRom what I saw Saturday, they were very beatable and were. Even if Judson does not will Saturday, oh well they will be back in it again in the future and they at least made it.

lonny23
12-07-2005, 10:39 AM
[QUOTE=ThEgReAtOnE]Beasely was hurt in the first half...and 3 or 4 other starters weren't playing, due to ineligibility.....with that said, a 3 point victory is not something to gloat about!!!


What! 3 or 4 staters were ineligible. Were they ineligible the week before or the week before that? Why were they ineligible this past week and not the others? Something fishy here. Seems that Westfield may have played some games with ineligible players.
By my calculations, they should be in the 3rd six weeks now and any ineligible players would've missed the 2nd and 3rd playoff games at a minimum.

Oiler1
12-07-2005, 10:48 AM
Oiler, don't you think neutralizing an opponents offensive playmakers is first and foremost on a defensive co-ordinators mind? That's how you win. I don't know if you were at the game Saturday, but the Judson defense already had Beasley "in check" before he got injured. If we were going to lose, he wasn't going to be the one who beat us. I keep hearing how we got lucky and only played half of WF team. I always saw 11 boys on each side of the ball every snap. We don't always have our first options available to us either, but how you respond is what separates the good teams from the wanna-bes. I don't want to start a fight because I have a lot of respect for the WF team, coaches and fans. That's just the way the cookie crumbles. Football is a contact sport and unfortunatley there are injuries to contend with.

NS kept him in check the first half as well but couldn't stop them in the 4th quarter because of all the weapons which were not present in the second half of the Judson contest. Nothing to neutralize if he isn't on the field is my point and most definately its on a DC's mind. To me its no different then what Vince Young did to OSU in the second half this year. Its just my opinion but Beasley was good enough to take control of a game in a second half because I've seen it. Not all 11 boys on that field will be playing at the next level but Beasley will with offers from Utah State, Memphis and Duke currently.

lonny23
12-07-2005, 10:54 AM
If they were ineligible, the time for that to occur would be the Friday after the six weeks ends which according to SW calender the 2nd six weeks ended on November 4th making any student who failed the 2nd six weeks ineligible at the end of the school day on November 11 ( holidays do not play into the Judson game). If that was the case, then those players have been missing since the playoffs began. So goldeneagle, something isn't right as far as elgibility time span is concerned.

SW had a good team; injury to QB probably made a difference; th SW lines were controlled by Judson for most of the day. I realize having the QB would have mixed up the plays a little better, but he wasn't the one blocking or lack thereof for the RB's. Injuries happen, ask Judson and Lufkin who have both suffered through injury losses. Judson doesn't have all of their starters back yet--two are gone for the season and one was dismmissed because of reasons outside of school. With a talented laden team like SW, I would expect them to overcome one injury and beat a 4 loss team. Yes, some Judson posters just as some Mustang posters are a little over zealous, but most realize the game was a great victory for Judson who has overcome many obstacles throughout the season.
All this back and forth stuff is so simple it's pitiful. The fact is Houston-area posters argued with and belittled SA football all year in 2004. They were rightfully proud of what they did in 2003. Mainly me, but some other posters didn't give any quarter to Region 3 all year. When it came time for the semis, we went 1-1 against each other. We continously heard ow Houston was going to dominate SA in D1 this year. It's only natural for SA posters to talk trash back to Houston and they shouldn't act like we've committed a crime and get offended. They brought those type of words upon themselves.

Let me add that I don't support the type of behavior that's been exhibited. 2 wrongs don't make a right and just because one person gets out of line does not mean another should. All I'm saying is you can expect that kind of stuff to go back on the other team who talks trash.

bullrock
12-07-2005, 11:07 AM
There probaly won't be 3 Judson kids playing next year at the next level, but that didn't stop them from doing what they believed they could do. I think you're wrong about Beasley taking over in the second half. You could tell his will was already broken. I don't know why some of his team mates were not present, nor am I interested in finding out, but the fact reamains, and it will never be proven by either side, that the Rockets would have won anyway. There is a good chance Beasley never would have scored on the Rocket "D". The backup did. That's way I saw it.

stangsfan
12-07-2005, 11:13 AM
Can we move on now? You have a game just ahead and were moving on to basketball.

lonny23
12-07-2005, 11:16 AM
There probaly won't be 3 Judson kids playing next year at the next level, but that didn't stop them from doing what they believed they could do. I think you're wrong about Beasley taking over in the second half. You could tell his will was already broken. I don't know why some of his team mates were not present, nor am I interested in finding out, but the fact reamains, and it will never be proven by either side, that the Rockets would have won anyway. There is a good chance Beasley never would have scored on the Rocket "D". The backup did. That's way I saw it.
It's very clear to me that some of the things said about the Beasley injury were done to discredit the Judson win. That's a shame because those boys played a good game. 1 player does not completely derail a team in very many cases. I think Judson wins even if he didn't get hurt.

bullrock
12-07-2005, 11:23 AM
We have moved on. Haven't you heard? We're getting ready to play Trinity Saturday for a state chamionship.

JRocketMan
12-07-2005, 11:43 AM
It's very clear to me that some of the things said about the Beasley injury were done to discredit the Judson win. That's a shame because those boys played a good game. 1 player does not completely derail a team in very many cases. I think Judson wins even if he didn't get hurt.

Exactly right..If Beasley stayed in, he would have just had a longer day than he was already having during the first 18 minutes..Lonny as we can see that loss was very painful for some and they still cant say Judson brought it to them...Before the game was played there were all the stats thrown out there, people that were going to run the riverwalk naked if we won, we have 4 losses, now its we lost Beasley or we didnt play the same team that played NS....Maybe they should have brought the same team..

lonny23
12-07-2005, 11:48 AM
Exactly right..If Beasley stayed in, he would have just had a longer day than he was already having during the first 18 minutes..Lonny as we can see that loss was very painful for some and they still cant say Judson brought it to them...Before the game was played there were all the stats thrown out there, people that were going to run the riverwalk naked if we won, we have 4 losses, now its we lost Beasley or we didnt play the same team that played NS....Maybe they should have brought the same team..
All I have to say is there was a lot of witholding info going on. AFTER the game, we hear they were missing a RB and other players. Why didn't they say that before the game?

JRocketMan
12-07-2005, 11:51 AM
I dont know..Something is or was going on..I dont know whats up with all the withheld info..I think I need to invetigate further..I'll be getting a copy of that game tape soon. To see who was out there and who was missing..

JRocketMan
12-07-2005, 12:17 PM
Hey Lonny..Look what I found..I'll be cool about this one and wont call u out, but you know who u are..This is your post......LOL

Hey JRocketMan, I was at the game last week, please look at the stats of the QB running the football and please tell me what kind of yardage he piled up. I am sorry as true fans that you cannot accept that this team is not and I repeat is not as good as last years team end of story, Westfield is much better than the team we played last year. This will be a rout, count on it. It does not mean I am not loyal, it just means that I see the different between average and very good. I had predicted the score as 40-18, I have now change my mind WF 55- Judson 10. A true fan like it or not will always tell you when someone is better, I could say on here o how Judson will smash them and run over them, it would be a big lie. If Judson was given 2 months to prepare the outcome would be the same.

See invidually we might be as good, but as a team, were much, much better than last year... LOL

TheDuke
12-07-2005, 01:36 PM
Oh you didnt know..Westfield had State sowed up since preseason. I heard they were already doing ring sizing...Remember they went 11-0 and averaged 400 plus yards a game with a massive amount of weapons..But one weapon down and thats why they lost..


OK, then tell me how the backup QB did for Westfield? Did he score on any runs? Did he throw any TD's? I rest my case!:D

Not taking anything away from Judson, I just think this win would have ment more if Westfield had the there best player on the field! I watched them play and think they were the best 5A team since 03 North Shore IMO. It is like saying if Vince Young went down, would change the focus on the team period!

TexasRed6x
12-07-2005, 01:53 PM
OK, then tell me how the backup QB did for Westfield? Did he score on any runs? Did he throw any TD's? I rest my case!:D

Not taking anything away from Judson, I just think this win would have ment more if Westfield had the there best player on the field! I watched them play and think they were the best 5A team since 03 North Shore IMO. It is like saying if Vince Young went down, would change the focus on the team period!

Duke, I am not taking anythng away form Beasley, but don't compare a Heisman candidate to a high school player, who is not the even the best player in the state. Talk is cheap and pointless at this point, what we do know is who won the game, without a bunch of excuses, and this team could of folded its tent in week 9 but keep playing through more than 1 injury. It is said that Judson never gets the credit and times that they deserve. A few years ago Dave Campbell wrote about the best state champions from the past and left out Judson saying "he couldn't give them the credit because they never faced a very good team out of Region 3", please they are going to their 10th championship and not one of the Houston teams that we beat we very good. To me that does not speak well of Houston area football teams.

bullrock
12-07-2005, 02:03 PM
Yes Duke, as a matter of fact, the backup QB was repsonible for the only offensive TD WF got in the game. 20 pass. I still say Beasley came into the game injured. I didn't think he was hit that hard on the play he went down. If he had any speed, he certainly never showed it. Maybe that's why our defense looked so fast. Could it be he was a step or two off the pace when he arrived in SA? If they were all they were built up to be then that must say something about our team because we controlled the LOS on both sides of the ball the first half. Meekins made some halftime adjustments, but they were still never able to get a sustained drive against our defense. They made some decent drives, but never any that would make you think they had enough to score.

DiamondJ2
12-07-2005, 03:53 PM
when he was tackled from behind and on the side; slow motion from field level camera shows that he just rolled his left ankle. Looks like he was trying to plant and turn up field or prepare to throw. Do hope he can come back in time for district play in basketball.

Tainted win? here is tainted victory: Barry Bonds, Mark McGuire, Dallas Carter.

Injuries are part of atheteics. What would have tranpired if he played, we'll never know. What would have happened if Judson had all of their starters for every district game, don't know; what would have happen if . . . . As one stang poster said, it's over time to move on. SW to basketball (a very good team BTW) and Judson to state game.

nsmustang
12-07-2005, 04:06 PM
I thought the final score was 17-14. From reading all the guff, I'd have thought it was a blowout. NShore, you lost two years in a row to a team you were picked to defeat easily. So, you've got nothing to crow about, Judson beat them not you.

I am curious as to who picked Shore to easily beat Westfield?
Good going Rockets. Injuries or not, you got the "W"

TheDuke
12-07-2005, 04:50 PM
Duke, I am not taking anythng away form Beasley, but don't compare a Heisman candidate to a high school player, who is not the even the best player in the state. Talk is cheap and pointless at this point, what we do know is who won the game, without a bunch of excuses, and this team could of folded its tent in week 9 but keep playing through more than 1 injury. It is said that Judson never gets the credit and times that they deserve. A few years ago Dave Campbell wrote about the best state champions from the past and left out Judson saying "he couldn't give them the credit because they never faced a very good team out of Region 3", please they are going to their 10th championship and not one of the Houston teams that we beat we very good. To me that does not speak well of Houston area football teams.

I guess Katy doesn't count as a Houston team?

TheDuke
12-07-2005, 04:51 PM
Yes Duke, as a matter of fact, the backup QB was repsonible for the only offensive TD WF got in the game. 20 pass. I still say Beasley came into the game injured. I didn't think he was hit that hard on the play he went down. If he had any speed, he certainly never showed it. Maybe that's why our defense looked so fast. Could it be he was a step or two off the pace when he arrived in SA? If they were all they were built up to be then that must say something about our team because we controlled the LOS on both sides of the ball the first half. Meekins made some halftime adjustments, but they were still never able to get a sustained drive against our defense. They made some decent drives, but never any that would make you think they had enough to score.

With that said, way to go Judson! Keep it up!

gldneagles
12-07-2005, 06:38 PM
Thanks. One thing you need to keep in mind is that all teams have new posters come on the website in the middle of a playoff run. Some new posters are great and some new posters don't make themselves welcome.
you are welcome. i just get so irritated at the HATE after the game is played. yeah, talk smack leading up to the game, but, after it is played i believe loser should congratulate and winner should congratulate and console (please don't take that word "girly". i just could not come up with anything else on the spur of the moment).

too often the losing posters are made to feel they must bow down to the winner or these theards will continue forever. or some of the winning posters come on and say "we won and your team has no class". all this crap just distracts from the kids who actually played the game.

wish i could figure out how to stop all of it. it just heats things up to the point where posters begin badmouthing the actual players. and that is wrong. guess i can't do anything about it so i should just keep quiet and learn to accept it. NAH......i'll keep fighting it!

gldneagles
12-07-2005, 06:55 PM
All I have to say is there was a lot of witholding info going on. AFTER the game, we hear they were missing a RB and other players. Why didn't they say that before the game?
i do not think there was any "withholding" going on. like i have said before, i do not think there were ANY wf posters making any posts. it was several other region 3 posters and a few others from around the state. i do not think they would have the inside info. if i had made time to call my brother the week before the game he probably would have mentioned it to me. also, the ineligable players are probably not a subject to be discussed in this public forum.

bullrock
12-07-2005, 07:00 PM
It usually takes some time to come back on the board after you lose a game you think you should have won. Then...you have to read all of the smack other posters are typing. It's not enough to hear it from the team you lost to, but everybody in the state has to chime in and that makes it worse. I remember it well. It's only been 1 year since that exact thing happened to us and yes there were a lot of Mustangs on here running thier lips. What can you do. It's human nature I suppose. I've tried not to smack WF because I know how lucky we were to get out of the game with a "W". They may not admit it, but most of the Rocket faithful figured we'd be turning in our uni's this week.

JRocketMan
12-07-2005, 07:07 PM
It usually takes some time to come back on the board after you lose a game you think you should have won. Then...you have to read all of the smack other posters are typing. It's not enough to hear it from the team you lost to, but everybody in the state has to chime in and that makes it worse. I remember it well. It's only been 1 year since that exact thing happened to us and yes there were a lot of Mustangs on here running thier lips. What can you do. It's human nature I suppose. I've tried not to smack WF because I know how lucky we were to get out of the game with a "W". They may not admit it, but most of the Rocket faithful figured we'd be turning in our uni's this week.

Not I...I sat thru through Churchill, SV, Madison and the heartbreaking 20 sec's left in the game, loss to Cove..I knew once the new coaches get there act together and we became injury free, we could handle biz..With the right timing it happened and were here..ROCKET PRIDE IS ALIVE AND WELL and will be shipped first class to round rock..

gldneagles
12-07-2005, 07:21 PM
congrats judson on the win. i have said before, champions win no matter what. that is what it takes. good luck this saturday!

katy fan for the next 2 weeks.

bullrock
12-07-2005, 07:24 PM
Thanks eagle.

JRocketMan
12-07-2005, 07:26 PM
Since this will be on TV..Watch for Captian Insano. You will enjoy this kid...He has that name for a reason..He's on the DLine..Trust me..WATCH THIS KID..He's off the chain..INSANO...

gldneagles
12-07-2005, 07:40 PM
Since this will be on TV..Watch for Captian Insano. You will enjoy this kid...He has that name for a reason..He's on the DLine..Trust me..WATCH THIS KID..He's off the chain..INSANO...
i would like to hear more. but i also want this thread title to die. is there another thread going you can tell me about it?

also, DUKE! the back-up qb for wf is my nephew. can you tell i'm proud of him and his accomplishments?!!! i still have not had time to call and talk about it with them. at the office until midnight sunday, bid a job monday, caught up tuesday and was in bullrock's and loonie23's backyard today. maybe i can go see him this weekend.

what time is the game on tv? i am going to see katy/sv on saturday so i may not be able to watch ya'll.

dwistheman
12-07-2005, 07:42 PM
Since this will be on TV..Watch for Captian Insano. You will enjoy this kid...He has that name for a reason..He's on the DLine..Trust me..WATCH THIS KID..He's off the chain..INSANO...

I know exactly who you are talking about. He jumps around that ball like a mad-man while the offense is in the huddle. I remember telling my wife he has the energy of our 2 year old son. I enjoy watching him.:)

JRocketMan
12-07-2005, 07:50 PM
I know exactly who you are talking about. He jumps around that ball like a mad-man while the offense is in the huddle. I remember telling my wife he has the energy of our 2 year old son. I enjoy watching him.:)

Exactly!!!!! Now were talking.. And this boy is strong...I didnt belive some people about his strength..But I saw first hand...Love to watch this kid..He must drink Red Bull all day long...

bullrock
12-07-2005, 07:59 PM
Were you here around Randolph eagle? Sounds like we may be the same kind of business, sorta.

lonny23
12-07-2005, 08:22 PM
Hey Lonny..Look what I found..I'll be cool about this one and wont call u out, but you know who u are..This is your post......LOL

Hey JRocketMan, I was at the game last week, please look at the stats of the QB running the football and please tell me what kind of yardage he piled up. I am sorry as true fans that you cannot accept that this team is not and I repeat is not as good as last years team end of story, Westfield is much better than the team we played last year. This will be a rout, count on it. It does not mean I am not loyal, it just means that I see the different between average and very good. I had predicted the score as 40-18, I have now change my mind WF 55- Judson 10. A true fan like it or not will always tell you when someone is better, I could say on here o how Judson will smash them and run over them, it would be a big lie. If Judson was given 2 months to prepare the outcome would be the same.

See invidually we might be as good, but as a team, were much, much better than last year... LOL
I must be fair and say that some of what was said last week was tongue in cheek. I know some Judson fans thought we would lose, but I doubt he thought we would lose that bad.

lonny23
12-07-2005, 08:26 PM
OK, then tell me how the backup QB did for Westfield? Did he score on any runs? Did he throw any TD's? I rest my case!:D

Not taking anything away from Judson, I just think this win would have ment more if Westfield had the there best player on the field! I watched them play and think they were the best 5A team since 03 North Shore IMO. It is like saying if Vince Young went down, would change the focus on the team period!
2 things.

He threw a TD pass.

Don't compare Beasley to VY. He's good, but not that good.

For the last 15 years, being the best team in Houston has not helped beat Region 4. You have some good teams, but they're not going to win the title in most years.

lonny23
12-07-2005, 08:30 PM
Duke, I am not taking anythng away form Beasley, but don't compare a Heisman candidate to a high school player, who is not the even the best player in the state. Talk is cheap and pointless at this point, what we do know is who won the game, without a bunch of excuses, and this team could of folded its tent in week 9 but keep playing through more than 1 injury. It is said that Judson never gets the credit and times that they deserve. A few years ago Dave Campbell wrote about the best state champions from the past and left out Judson saying "he couldn't give them the credit because they never faced a very good team out of Region 3", please they are going to their 10th championship and not one of the Houston teams that we beat we very good. To me that does not speak well of Houston area football teams.
I didn't remember Dave saying that and that's a joke. It doesn't do justice to what Judson has done. It all comes back down to pride. We don't have blue-chip recruits and people hate to admit that we're just better from execution and hard work.

TexasRed6x
12-07-2005, 08:34 PM
I didn't remember Dave saying that and that's a joke. It doesn't do justice to what Judson has done. It all comes back down to pride. We don't have blue-chip recruits and people hate to admit that we're just better from execution and hard work.


This did happen, I read it in at the dome during the August games that we puts on in San Antonio.

lonny23
12-07-2005, 08:36 PM
i would like to hear more. but i also want this thread title to die. is there another thread going you can tell me about it?

also, DUKE! the back-up qb for wf is my nephew. can you tell i'm proud of him and his accomplishments?!!! i still have not had time to call and talk about it with them. at the office until midnight sunday, bid a job monday, caught up tuesday and was in bullrock's and loonie23's backyard today. maybe i can go see him this weekend.

what time is the game on tv? i am going to see katy/sv on saturday so i may not be able to watch ya'll.
HIGH NOON!

TheDuke
12-08-2005, 02:47 PM
2 things.

He threw a TD pass.

Don't compare Beasley to VY. He's good, but not that good.

For the last 15 years, being the best team in Houston has not helped beat Region 4. You have some good teams, but they're not going to win the title in most years.

I wasn't comparing him to Vince Young Lonny, I was just saying he is as important to the TEAM as Young is to Texas!!

t00 playa
12-08-2005, 02:50 PM
I wasn't comparing him to Vince Young Lonny, I was just saying he is as important to the TEAM as Young is to Texas!!

and that is the truth. Different players.. same concept.:eek:

dada
12-08-2005, 02:58 PM
Is Westfield becoming to North Shore what Judson was to Ike? Maybe realignment will get rid of this possible first round match-up.

zzz
12-08-2005, 02:59 PM
Wow, you people are still talking about this!? Westfield losing seems so long ago that I forgot what crow tasted like. Westfield had a great season and for whatever reason they lost to Judson last week. I wish the best of luck to Judson in the finals, and hope everybody has a safe and happy for the holidays.

stangsfan
12-08-2005, 04:27 PM
Wow, you people are still talking about this!? Westfield losing seems so long ago that I forgot what crow tasted like. Westfield had a great season and for whatever reason they lost to Judson last week. I wish the best of luck to Judson in the finals, and hope everybody has a safe and happy for the holidays.

It's that "for whatever reason" you mention that has kept this thread going.:o

t00 playa
12-08-2005, 09:06 PM
Is Westfield becoming to North Shore what Judson was to Ike? Maybe realignment will get rid of this possible first round match-up.

well westfield had a stellar class come through... and NS is at a high level but westfields class was a VERY good one we all saw them mature the past 2 years...well three for that matter.... NS returns something like 35 lettermen from this team that hung in there with a fully loaded westfield team....NS reloads, we will see if westfield can do the same, which im sure they will, but it will be tough to reload the talent that they had with this senior class, but if they beat NS again next year, then ill call it the aforementioned situation that you brought up in your post.... we shall see though... cant wait for westfield and NS to hook up again, i dont mind NS losing, I just want them in the tough games more often,.... with games against westfield, katy, lufkin, etc.... or at least 2 of the three..... but we will see what redistricting does, though, NS is not afraid of westfield, but we are in an 0-2 hole.... so right now.. they deserve alot of credit.:eek:

stangsfan
12-08-2005, 09:09 PM
well westfield had a stellar class come through... and NS is at a high level but westfields class was a VERY good one we all saw them mature the past 2 years...well three for that matter.... NS returns something like 35 lettermen from this team that hung in there with a fully loaded westfield team....NS reloads, we will see if westfield can do the same, which im sure they will, but it will be tough to reload the talent that they had with this senior class, but if they beat NS again next year, then ill call it the aforementioned situation that you brought up in your post.... we shall see though... cant wait for westfield and NS to hook up again, i dont mind NS losing, I just want them in the tough games more often,.... with games against westfield, katy, lufkin, etc.... or at least 2 of the three..... but we will see what redistricting does, though, NS is not afraid of westfield, but we are in an 0-2 hole.... so right now.. they deserve alot of credit.:eek:

I think Shore will have the edge next year with all our grads this year.

lonny23
12-08-2005, 09:13 PM
well westfield had a stellar class come through... and NS is at a high level but westfields class was a VERY good one we all saw them mature the past 2 years...well three for that matter.... NS returns something like 35 lettermen from this team that hung in there with a fully loaded westfield team....NS reloads, we will see if westfield can do the same, which im sure they will, but it will be tough to reload the talent that they had with this senior class, but if they beat NS again next year, then ill call it the aforementioned situation that you brought up in your post.... we shall see though... cant wait for westfield and NS to hook up again, i dont mind NS losing, I just want them in the tough games more often,.... with games against westfield, katy, lufkin, etc.... or at least 2 of the three..... but we will see what redistricting does, though, NS is not afraid of westfield, but we are in an 0-2 hole.... so right now.. they deserve alot of credit.:eek:
I think a tougher schedule will help North Shore out. Westfield has been in a better district for a while now.

No thread is dead if somebody wants to talk about it. We still have access to threads in April!

stangsfan
12-08-2005, 09:18 PM
Wow, you people are still talking about this!? Westfield losing seems so long ago that I forgot what crow tasted like. Westfield had a great season and for whatever reason they lost to Judson last week. I wish the best of luck to Judson in the finals, and hope everybody has a safe and happy for the holidays.

Talk about salt on a wound, I just heard that a review of the game tape shows the player returning the WF fumble stepped out on the 45. Man, if true that hurts. Oh well, it's history now!

t00 playa
12-08-2005, 09:20 PM
I think a tougher schedule will help North Shore out. Westfield has been in a better district for a while now.




i agree, but what can you do? hopefully redistricting helps us out.

btw, good luck to your boys, if they win it, they are well deserving.:eek:

JRocketMan
12-08-2005, 10:16 PM
Talk about salt on a wound, I just heard that a review of the game tape shows the player returning the WF fumble stepped out on the 45. Man, if true that hurts. Oh well, it's history now!

My seat was right at the 40 on the Judson side about 3-4 rows up and the answer is...........No he didnt step out and took it to the house

jrdaniel
12-08-2005, 10:35 PM
Well the game tape would probably also show the huge block in the back on the punt return for a TD also. Game is over, let it go, hope that ref crew isn't in RR next weekend.

bullrock
12-09-2005, 07:50 AM
I hear they're doing a game at Tully this weekend.

jrdaniel
12-09-2005, 08:25 AM
Good luck Katy, they don't like the color red.

lonny23
12-09-2005, 08:39 AM
Well the game tape would probably also show the huge block in the back on the punt return for a TD also. Game is over, let it go, hope that ref crew isn't in RR next weekend.
Judson will probably get a crew from Houston.

I bet SV gets a Dallas crew.

Why don't they have SA crews late in the playoffs? Because we're in the game!:p

LoneRocket
12-09-2005, 08:44 AM
Judson will probably get a crew from Houston.

I bet SV gets a Dallas crew.

Why don't they have SA crews late in the playoffs? Because we're in the game!:p
You do not want that Dallas Crew from last week some people think they should not work again. I wonder if the UIL is going to review that game film.

stangsfan
12-09-2005, 01:33 PM
My seat was right at the 40 on the Judson side about 3-4 rows up and the answer is...........No he didnt step out and took it to the house

Okay, good luck tomorrow! I'll be watching from the comfort of home.