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v2the4
12-21-2008, 07:32 AM
The anticipation had been developing all week. The internet chat, the blogs, the radio shows and the pundits had set the matchup all week. The D1 state title game featuring 14-1 Allen Eagles vs the 13-0 Hightower Hurricanes at Reliant Stadium.
Allen came in the game with a tremendous playoff run, beating undefeated Odessa Permian, avenging their only regular season loss by sloberknocking the previous #1 state and nationally ranked Euless Trinity in the regional finals, and then snatching victory from the jaws of defeat with a last second td to beat a tough Stony Point team in the state semifinals.
Hightowers road was just as tough, as they took out state ranked #2 and area ranked #1 North Shore in the 2nd round, #5 area ranked Cinco Ranch in the third round and state ranked #6 and area ranked #2 Pearland in the regional finals, before beating region IV champ San Antonio Clark in the state semifinals.
Allen, with their spread offense, has been able to put points on the board in bunches, and can score in the flash of an eye. Hightowers claim to fame was their tremendous agressive defense, which was only allowing an average of 11 points per game heading into the playoffs.....
Hightower won the coin toss and deferred to the second half, allowing the matchup of the Allen spread vs the Hightower D to showcase after the opening kickoff. Allen would be lead by backup QB Tucker Carter, who held the starting spot since their win over Permian after starter Matt Brown went down in the second round game vs Coppell. Carter got the Eagles in motion on the first drive, converting a 3rd and 14th, before their first drive stalled, and Carter pooch kicked the ball to Hightower, who took over on their own 22
a 15 yard penality on Hightower pinned them back on their own 7 yard line, where they ran thier first play from scrimmage. Hightower immediately went to the air, and it was appearant early that they were going to get the ball to their best playmaker, WR #12 Darius Johnson. Johnson caught three passes on the first drive, then took a reserve handoff, turned it upfield for a 43 touchdown run, untouched. a 7 play 93 yard drive gave Hightower a 7-0 lead.
Allen would come back with a methodical drive of their own, starting at their own 35 and running 8 plays, getting into the Hightower red zone. Carter, who had just burned Hightower CB Alex Francis two previous plays, tried to hit his receiver #89 Dakarai Pecikonis, but Francis lept and intecepted the ball in the end zone for touchback.
Hightower would take the ball from their 20, all the way to Allen 35 on what appeared to be another scoring drive, but Allen stripped the ball away from HT rb #5 London Hamilton to end that drive.
End of the first quarter, Hightower 7 Allen 0
Allen went on their third drive of the game, this time running the ball with #3 Jeremaih Williams and WR #33 Waddell both carrying the ball. Carter went to Peckinos again on third and 19 for a first down, and converted another third and 14, moving the ball to the HT 25 again.....Allen would come up short on downs, and turn the ball over to HT at thier own 15.
HT would then go a 12 play, 85 yard drive, getting the ball to Allens one yard line on third and goal, where they tried a running play that was stopped. On fourth down, HT lined up Johnson in man to man coverage vs Allen DB #5 Jermy Reeves. HT qb AJ Highsmith threw a perfect pass that Johnson appeared to have, but Reeves was able to get his hands on Johnsons arms and knocked the ball away, leaving Hightower empty handed with 3:19 left in the first half.
Allen came out the end zone throwing, and immediately got a two first downs, before they suffered their second fumble of the game, with wr Waddell fumbling the ball at the Allen 33......HT moved the ball to the Allen 16, where they attempted a 33 yd fg by the normally clutch Jake Kane, who was wide left on this attempt. Allen played conservative, and ran out the clock, going into the locker room for halftime.
Halftime Hightower 7 Allen 0
Stats:
HT lead in total yards 218 to 115 for Allen. rushing was 116 for HT and 10 for Allen. passing 102 for HT, 105 for Allen. 9 first down for HT, 6 first downs for Allen. HT had one turnover, Allen had two. HT missed one FG attempt before the half.
Hightower to this point left at least 10 points, quite possibly 17 points on the field if you count Hamiltons fumble. HT had their way with Allen on the offensive side of the ball, as Allen had no answer for Johnson, and HT was able to get a little pressure on Carter......Allen quite possibly left 7 points on the field with the INT into the endzone, and their defense came up a huge stop on fourth and goal, which could have been a game changer.
HT got the ball first, Johnson took the opening kickoff from the right nfl hash, hit the middle of the seam and had nothing but paydirt in front of him, only to have his own man run into him and knock him down at the HT 35....that was a big play.....Allen came out in the third quarter with a dime package, assigning two men and an underneath lb to Johnson, but Highsmith used his legs to keep the drive alive, converting two third downs, hitting his other WRs, #84 Bracey, #8 Williams and #7 Edwards before the drive stalled....the HT coaches called on Kane to attempt a 46 yd fg, and Kane was short, his second miss of the game, setting Allen up at their own 29.
Allen would go 71 yards in 9 plays, getting a 44 yard reception from Pecinkonis which would set up a wheel route with Carter hitting Williams with a two yard td pass to tie the game up at 7-7, which is where it remained going into the fourth quarter.
HT ws forced to punt after they went six plays, and end up pinning Allen deep in their own territory...after a 10 yard penality for illegial pass(Carter had the ball tipped back to himself and passed it again, which is illegial), Allen was on their own one yard line, and attempted a pass!!!!! HT tipped the ball again, and DE #51 Philpott had the ball bounce in his hands on the goal line only to drop it(think of the UT db #21 who dropped the INT vs Tech, and Tech got the td pass on the next play)....what a big play...Allen was forced to punt, and would get off a 63 yard punt, which outkicked the coverage, but they were able to tackle Johnson at the HT 25.
Highsmith, who played a great game up to this point, tried to force the ball to Johnson, but Allens LB#40 Mitch Hartshorne interecepted the ball and ran it back 14 yards to set up Allen on the HT 37. The next play, Allen struck paydirt with a 37 yard td from Carter to #22 Marcus Thomas, his only catch of the game, for a 14-7 lead......the momentum had clearly swung, and Allen had their swagger back.
Allen pinned HT deep on the kickoff, but it was brought out and only returned to the 15 yard line.....HT went backwards, and ended up with a three and out and forced to punt from their own endzone.....a short punt, but a great return by Reeves set Allen up at the HT 24....after netting a first down, on second and goal, Allen's #25 Justin Robinson was left wide open on a busted coverage and scored to take a 21-7 lead with 5:17 to play.....the Hightower faithful started to clear out thinking the game was over..
on the ensuing kickoff, Johnson, who had been very quiet in the second half, broke up the middle and took the kickoff 74 yards to the Allen 11 yard line...Highsmith found Edwards on the next play for an 11 yard td to make the score 21-14 with 5:00 minutes left........New ballgame....until HT did something inexplicable....
instead of kicking the ball deep and using their two timeouts....HT kicked it short, setting up Allen on their own 45.....Allen ran two running plays, HT called their 2nd timeout on third down, and stopped them for a fourth and five with 3:56 left.....instead of playing for the return, Hightower, who had blocked punts in four of their previous five playoff games, brought the house, but ran into the punter...it wasnt enough for a first down, but Allen bought Carter on the field, to attempt fourth and inches, and Allen, which didnt have a running game was forced to throw...Carter took a tremendous hit, but got the ball to #7 Uzoma Nwachukwu for a two yard rec and a first down....
Allen would convert another fourth and one on a pass, and would eventuall get stopped on downs at the HT 15 with a minute left......HT had no timeouts, and being a team that only had to come from beind once all year in the fourth quarter, they had no clue how to run a two minute offense......the game would end with HT at midfield without even attempting a pass deep down the field.
Allen wins the Division 1 state title game 21-14.
Final stats
Rushing HT 154 Allen 57
passing HT 196 Allen 212
total yds HT 350 Allen 269
to's HT 2 Allen 2
Points off TO's HT 0 Allen 7
missed scoring oppurtunties, Hightower, with at least 27 points, Allen with 7
Allens coaches made the neccessary changes in the second half, by double teaming Johnson, and spying on AJ Highsmith. Allen's passing game, especially with the bubble screens and the stop and go patterns, left HT's dbs flat footed, and the HT coaches never changed their game alingments.....this goes back to the North Shore playoff game, where North Shores WR#2 and TE#89 beat one on one coverage all night..
HT never ran their backs out of the backfield like Allen did....Hamilton did catch two passes, but they never flaired him out into the flats with the WR's running vertical routes......
My player of the game goes to HT WR Darius Johnson, who totaled 276 all purpose yards and single handidly kept Hightower in the game. the allen player of the game was qb Tucker Carter, who threw the ball with precision and took some tremendous hits all night long.
I know the Allen starting QB, Matt Brown, who was hurt, made 2nd team all state, but you have to wonder if Allen will have a "qb controversy" on their hands next year, with both players coming back for their senior seasons.
ALLENFANDINGO5
12-21-2008, 08:03 AM
The anticipation had been developing all week. The internet chat, the blogs, the radio shows and the pundits had set the matchup all week. The D1 state title game featuring 14-1 Allen Eagles vs the 13-0 Hightower Hurricanes at Reliant Stadium.
Allen came in the game with a tremendous playoff run, beating undefeated Odessa Permian, avenging their only regular season loss by sloberknocking the previous #1 state and nationally ranked Euless Trinity in the regional finals, and then snatching victory from the jaws of defeat with a last second td to beat a tough Stony Point team in the state semifinals.
Hightowers road was just as tough, as they took out state ranked #2 and area ranked #1 North Shore in the 2nd round, #5 area ranked Cinco Ranch in the third round and state ranked #6 and area ranked #2 Pearland in the regional finals, before beating region IV champ San Antonio Clark in the state semifinals.
Allen, with their spread offense, has been able to put points on the board in bunches, and can score in the flash of an eye. Hightowers claim to fame was their tremendous agressive defense, which was only allowing an average of 11 points per game heading into the playoffs.....
Hightower won the coin toss and deferred to the second half, allowing the matchup of the Allen spread vs the Hightower D to showcase after the opening kickoff. Allen would be lead by backup QB Tucker Carter, who held the starting spot since their win over Permian after starter Matt Brown went down in the second round game vs Coppell. Carter got the Eagles in motion on the first drive, converting a 3rd and 14th, before their first drive stalled, and Carter pooch kicked the ball to Hightower, who took over on their own 22
a 15 yard penality on Hightower pinned them back on their own 7 yard line, where they ran thier first play from scrimmage. Hightower immediately went to the air, and it was appearant early that they were going to get the ball to their best playmaker, WR #12 Darius Johnson. Johnson caught three passes on the first drive, then took a reserve handoff, turned it upfield for a 43 touchdown run, untouched. a 7 play 93 yard drive gave Hightower a 7-0 lead.
Allen would come back with a methodical drive of their own, starting at their own 35 and running 8 plays, getting into the Hightower red zone. Carter, who had just burned Hightower CB Alex Francis two previous plays, tried to hit his receiver #89 Dakarai Pecikonis, but Francis lept and intecepted the ball in the end zone for touchback.
Hightower would take the ball from their 20, all the way to Allen 35 on what appeared to be another scoring drive, but Allen stripped the ball away from HT rb #5 London Hamilton to end that drive.
End of the first quarter, Hightower 7 Allen 0
Allen went on their third drive of the game, this time running the ball with #3 Jeremaih Williams and WR #33 Waddell both carrying the ball. Carter went to Peckinos again on third and 19 for a first down, and converted another third and 14, moving the ball to the HT 25 again.....Allen would come up short on downs, and turn the ball over to HT at thier own 15.
HT would then go a 12 play, 85 yard drive, getting the ball to Allens one yard line on third and goal, where they tried a running play that was stopped. On fourth down, HT lined up Johnson in man to man coverage vs Allen DB #5 Jermy Reeves. HT qb AJ Highsmith threw a perfect pass that Johnson appeared to have, but Reeves was able to get his hands on Johnsons arms and knocked the ball away, leaving Hightower empty handed with 3:19 left in the first half.
Allen came out the end zone throwing, and immediately got a two first downs, before they suffered their second fumble of the game, with wr Waddell fumbling the ball at the Allen 33......HT moved the ball to the Allen 16, where they attempted a 33 yd fg by the normally clutch Jake Kane, who was wide left on this attempt. Allen played conservative, and ran out the clock, going into the locker room for halftime.
Halftime Hightower 7 Allen 0
Stats:
HT lead in total yards 218 to 115 for Allen. rushing was 116 for HT and 10 for Allen. passing 102 for HT, 105 for Allen. 9 first down for HT, 6 first downs for Allen. HT had one turnover, Allen had two. HT missed one FG attempt before the half.
Hightower to this point left at least 10 points, quite possibly 17 points on the field if you count Hamiltons fumble. HT had their way with Allen on the offensive side of the ball, as Allen had no answer for Johnson, and HT was able to get a little pressure on Carter......Allen quite possibly left 7 points on the field with the INT into the endzone, and their defense came up a huge stop on fourth and goal, which could have been a game changer.
HT got the ball first, Johnson took the opening kickoff from the right nfl hash, hit the middle of the seam and had nothing but paydirt in front of him, only to have his own man run into him and knock him down at the HT 35....that was a big play.....Allen came out in the third quarter with a dime package, assigning two men and an underneath lb to Johnson, but Highsmith used his legs to keep the drive alive, converting two third downs, hitting his other WRs, #84 Bracey, #8 Williams and #7 Edwards before the drive stalled....the HT coaches called on Kane to attempt a 46 yd fg, and Kane was short, his second miss of the game, setting Allen up at their own 29.
Allen would go 71 yards in 9 plays, getting a 44 yard reception from Pecinkonis which would set up a wheel route with Carter hitting Williams with a two yard td pass to tie the game up at 7-7, which is where it remained going into the fourth quarter.
HT ws forced to punt after they went six plays, and end up pinning Allen deep in their own territory...after a 10 yard penality for illegial pass(Carter had the ball tipped back to himself and passed it again, which is illegial), Allen was on their own one yard line, and attempted a pass!!!!! HT tipped the ball again, and DE #51 Philpott had the ball bounce in his hands on the goal line only to drop it(think of the UT db #21 who dropped the INT vs Tech, and Tech got the td pass on the next play)....what a big play...Allen was forced to punt, and would get off a 63 yard punt, which outkicked the coverage, but they were able to tackle Johnson at the HT 25.
Highsmith, who played a great game up to this point, tried to force the ball to Johnson, but Allens LB#40 Mitch Hartshorne interecepted the ball and ran it back 14 yards to set up Allen on the HT 37. The next play, Allen struck paydirt with a 37 yard td from Carter to #22 Marcus Thomas, his only catch of the game, for a 14-7 lead......the momentum had clearly swung, and Allen had their swagger back.
Allen pinned HT deep on the kickoff, but it was brought out and only returned to the 15 yard line.....HT went backwards, and ended up with a three and out and forced to punt from their own endzone.....a short punt, but a great return by Reeves set Allen up at the HT 24....after netting a first down, on second and goal, Allen's #25 Justin Robinson was left wide open on a busted coverage and scored to take a 21-7 lead with 5:17 to play.....the Hightower faithful started to clear out thinking the game was over..
on the ensuing kickoff, Johnson, who had been very quiet in the second half, broke up the middle and took the kickoff 74 yards to the Allen 11 yard line...Highsmith found Edwards on the next play for an 11 yard td to make the score 21-14 with 5:00 minutes left........New ballgame....until HT did something inexplicable....
instead of kicking the ball deep and using their two timeouts....HT kicked it short, setting up Allen on their own 45.....Allen ran two running plays, HT called their 2nd timeout on third down, and stopped them for a fourth and five with 3:56 left.....instead of playing for the return, Hightower, who had blocked punts in four of their previous five playoff games, brought the house, but ran into the punter...it wasnt enough for a first down, but Allen bought Carter on the field, to attempt fourth and inches, and Allen, which didnt have a running game was forced to throw...Carter took a tremendous hit, but got the ball to #7 Uzoma Nwachukwu for a two yard rec and a first down....
Allen would convert another fourth and one on a pass, and would eventuall get stopped on downs at the HT 15 with a minute left......HT had no timeouts, and being a team that only had to come from beind once all year in the fourth quarter, they had no clue how to run a two minute offense......the game would end with HT at midfield without even attempting a pass deep down the field.
Allen wins the Division 1 state title game 21-14.
Final stats
Rushing HT 154 Allen 57
passing HT 196 Allen 212
total yds HT 350 Allen 269
to's HT 2 Allen 2
Points off TO's HT 0 Allen 7
missed scoring oppurtunties, Hightower, with at least 27 points, Allen with 7
Allens coaches made the neccessary changes in the second half, by double teaming Johnson, and spying on AJ Highsmith. Allen's passing game, especially with the bubble screens and the stop and go patterns, left HT's dbs flat footed, and the HT coaches never changed their game alingments.....this goes back to the North Shore playoff game, where North Shores WR#2 and TE#89 beat one on one coverage all night..
HT never ran their backs out of the backfield like Allen did....Hamilton did catch two passes, but they never flaired him out into the flats with the WR's running vertical routes......
My player of the game goes to HT WR Darius Johnson, who totaled 276 all purpose yards and single handidly kept Hightower in the game. the allen player of the game was qb Tucker Carter, who threw the ball with precision and took some tremendous hits all night long.
I know the Allen starting QB, Matt Brown, who was hurt, made 2nd team all state, but you have to wonder if Allen will have a "qb controversy" on their hands next year, with both players coming back for their senior seasons.
You said it all man. My thoughts were that HT didnt put it away which gave Allen confidence that they could come out in the 2nd half with their adjustments and get back into the game. Tucker Carter was clutch again, which is remarkable, especially since HT had made our running game a nonfactor. All I can add is that Allen showed a greater desire to win.
KatyTigerDad0407
12-21-2008, 08:32 AM
They are who we thought they were, and we let'em off the hook.
For Hightower to totally dominate the first half and only get 7 points was their demise. Allen could not run the ball. A Hightower mistake here and there and Allen's ability to capitalize was the difference.
78 Spartan
12-21-2008, 08:50 AM
Carter took a lickin' and kept on tickin'. He impressed me with his guts and his precision. He took a lot of big hits and I am sure is waking up sore this morning.
No doubt Darius Johnson was the player of the game though. Allen did all they could to take him out of the flow of the game, but he was unharnessed electricity each time he touched the ball.
I thought the turning point was the tipped pass that HT's #51 couldn't hang onto in Allen's end zone. Even though that would have made it just 14-7 HT, it would have totally changed the game.
So many great, clutch plays by great athletes on both teams. It was a heavyweight championship fight, no doubt. Incredible intensity and speed and hitting. HT represented well, but couldn't put it away when they had the game in their grasp. Allen deserves credit for winning the halftime adjustment battle and asserting itself in the second half.
Hopefully, Katy's win and HT's performance ends the talk about how weak Houston-area football was this year. Hightower, North Shore, Pearland, Klein Oak, The Woodlands, Cinco and Katy were all deserving of statewide credit, but since everyone started the year assuming that only DFW teams were worthy. That was disproven yesterday even in Allen's victory.
Congrats to Katy and to Allen for your well-earned titles. And also to Hightower for a superb effort and a great season, and to Wylie for getting there.
HomeofChampions'06
12-21-2008, 10:29 AM
I would have loved to see this game without the turnovers from either side. I think there's a good chance it could have ended 7-0 or 10-7...something of that nature. Turnovers absolutely killed these teams yesterday and Allen was able to make the most of them. When you look at it turnovers killed everyone today except for Katy.
Allen
2 turnovers (1 fumble/1 int....to tie in the turnover battle and come out on top in a state championship game after the complete domination of Hightower in the first half was simply phenomenal...there were more swings in this game than at an elementary school playground...one being the huge catch in the middle of the field by the Eagles only to be ripped of the ball with a forced fumble...I believe that was a 3rd down as well...that play had to have broken some confidence)
Hightower
2 turnovers (1 fumble/1 int....I think more than anything the goal line stand in the first half was the worst thing for the Hurricanes. They could have gone up rwo scores and felt great about that half of football. I think it would have fueled the defense even more than they already were at that point)
Wylie
3 turnovers (3 int's which all came at very costly times for Monk and the Wylie offense...the first came in the redzone very early into the game and that very well could have been the momentum shifter)
Katy
1 turnover (1 int which came late in the game...the Katy defense had stood their ground the entire 48 minutes so it wasn't that costly of a throw by Parker Ray...and heck it's one of the best int's I've seen in a long time)
Hurricanes192
12-21-2008, 11:25 AM
you guys deserved to lose 41-21 u didn't look like #4 in the nation because u guys were 1 deminson team and we still held u to 21 which no team this whole season has scored more then 21 you guys have money and all this fancy s:Censor: thats a unfair advantage you gus should of lost to Preiman and Trinity and RR stony Point or Us your cheerleaders really p:Censor:me off because they ran on the field after a touchdown and celebrated they should have been flaged for unsportsmen like conduct twice " they are on a active roster meaning they are elgible for pentalties" plus i believe thats againts the rules of the UIL to do that:mad:
v2the4
12-21-2008, 11:49 AM
you guys deserved to lose 41-21 u didn't look like #4 in the nation because u guys were 1 deminson team and we still held u to 21 which no team this whole season has scored more then 21 you guys have money and all this fancy s:Censor: thats a unfair advantage you gus should of lost to Preiman and Trinity and RR stony Point or Us your cheerleaders really p:Censor:me off because they ran on the field after a touchdown and celebrated they should have been flaged for unsportsmen like conduct twice " they are on a active roster meaning they are elgible for pentalties" plus i believe thats againts the rules of the UIL to do that:mad:
yo hurricanes.....this is unfair dude....we lost the game fair and square last night..if you want to blame someone, go blame Coach Hallmark and his defensive staff for not making any adjustments..why were our DB's five to ten yards off the Allen receivers, especially during their last drive? Why did Hallmark swib quick the last kickoff and not kick it deep? all of those are just a few factors in the reason Hightower lost, not the lil cheerleaders at Allen...they didnt play a down in the game last night
per the rules, they can run on the field with their flags between series after a score.......if you think Allen should have lost to Permian or Trinity or Stony Point, then we should have lost to North Shore, because on paper, they were better then us, and to Cinco because they had a 14-0 lead and ran the same offense that Allen ran...
in losing, you have to be gracious..congratulate your opponent, and pick up the pieces...we had way too many oppurtunities to put points on the board and didnt....this could be the start of a great run for us.......remember this, before Katy got on their great run, they lost the first 5A title game they played in vs Plano in 1994.....and look at what they are doing now....we can learn from this, but dont put fingers at the cheerleaders, or the band or the "rich folk" up in Collin county tx
cougmantx
12-21-2008, 01:22 PM
You said it all man. My thoughts were that HT didnt put it away which gave Allen confidence that they could come out in the 2nd half with their adjustments and get back into the game. Tucker Carter was clutch again, which is remarkable, especially since HT had made our running game a nonfactor. All I can add is that Allen showed a greater desire to win.
Hightower had a chance for two field goals in the first half and elected to try and convert. I thought it was a mistake at the time and I am convinced it was now. I think if they could have gone into the half with 13 on the board, made some minor adjustments, they could have easily taken this game.
I was impressed with both teams, although I have to say that I am sick and tired of the spread offense. It has just gotten boring to watch from my perspective.
Number 12 for Hightower is a beast, and Allen's QB, how in the world was this guy the second string...
Congratulations to Allen, but I think Hightower shot themselves in the foot in this game.
Mr. Rod
12-21-2008, 02:06 PM
you guys deserved to lose 41-21 u didn't look like #4 in the nation because u guys were 1 deminson team and we still held u to 21 which no team this whole season has scored more then 21 you guys have money and all this fancy s:Censor: thats a unfair advantage you gus should of lost to Preiman and Trinity and RR stony Point or Us your cheerleaders really p:Censor:me off because they ran on the field after a touchdown and celebrated they should have been flaged for unsportsmen like conduct twice " they are on a active roster meaning they are elgible for pentalties" plus i believe thats againts the rules of the UIL to do that:mad:
Wow real mature. Im sorry that having Allen's cheerleaders on the field was a huge disadvantage for the Hurricanes. Hightower just didn't close the deal. There's always next year.
MemorialMustangs
12-21-2008, 02:54 PM
you guys deserved to lose 41-21 u didn't look like #4 in the nation because u guys were 1 deminson team and we still held u to 21 which no team this whole season has scored more then 21 you guys have money and all this fancy s:Censor: thats a unfair advantage you gus should of lost to Preiman and Trinity and RR stony Point or Us your cheerleaders really p:Censor:me off because they ran on the field after a touchdown and celebrated they should have been flaged for unsportsmen like conduct twice " they are on a active roster meaning they are elgible for pentalties" plus i believe thats againts the rules of the UIL to do that:mad:
U guys didnt capitalize... Dont be a bad loser... If it werent for mistakes u guys could have potentially won... But with that being said we dont give trophies to potential winners - or should have winners... We give em to the team that actually won... Just think we almost gave the Patriots the Super Bowl last year... A book had been written about their perfect season and all... They should have won... But the people with the rings and trophies are from New York
Yall played a good game, maybe not as good as u did against Pearland... But the fact is, u guys lost... Congradulate Allen, they deserved it...
NorthTexUmp
12-21-2008, 03:11 PM
you guys deserved to lose 41-21 u didn't look like #4 in the nation because u guys were 1 deminson team and we still held u to 21 which no team this whole season has scored more then 21 you guys have money and all this fancy s:Censor: thats a unfair advantage you gus should of lost to Preiman and Trinity and RR stony Point or Us your cheerleaders really p:Censor:me off because they ran on the field after a touchdown and celebrated they should have been flaged for unsportsmen like conduct twice " they are on a active roster meaning they are elgible for pentalties" plus i believe thats againts the rules of the UIL to do that:mad:
haha - middle schoolers shouldn't be allowed to post!
congrats Allen & Hightower
tailgater
12-21-2008, 03:18 PM
you guys deserved to lose 41-21 u didn't look like #4 in the nation because u guys were 1 deminson team and we still held u to 21 which no team this whole season has scored more then 21 you guys have money and all this fancy s:Censor: thats a unfair advantage you gus should of lost to Preiman and Trinity and RR stony Point or Us your cheerleaders really p:Censor:me off because they ran on the field after a touchdown and celebrated they should have been flaged for unsportsmen like conduct twice " they are on a active roster meaning they are elgible for pentalties" plus i believe thats againts the rules of the UIL to do that:mad:
Sour grapes. You guys lost it and I mean "lost it" ala you got rattled after the 3rd qt. interception.
DawgDave
12-21-2008, 03:36 PM
you guys deserved to lose 41-21 u didn't look like #4 in the nation because u guys were 1 deminson team and we still held u to 21 which no team this whole season has scored more then 21 you guys have money and all this fancy s:Censor: thats a unfair advantage you gus should of lost to Preiman and Trinity and RR stony Point or Us your cheerleaders really p:Censor:me off because they ran on the field after a touchdown and celebrated they should have been flaged for unsportsmen like conduct twice " they are on a active roster meaning they are elgible for pentalties" plus i believe thats againts the rules of the UIL to do that:mad:
Do they speak English there in Missouri City?
ALLENFANDINGO5
12-21-2008, 07:36 PM
you guys deserved to lose 41-21 u didn't look like #4 in the nation because u guys were 1 deminson team and we still held u to 21 which no team this whole season has scored more then 21 you guys have money and all this fancy s:Censor: thats a unfair advantage you gus should of lost to Preiman and Trinity and RR stony Point or Us your cheerleaders really p:Censor:me off because they ran on the field after a touchdown and celebrated they should have been flaged for unsportsmen like conduct twice " they are on a active roster meaning they are elgible for pentalties" plus i believe thats againts the rules of the UIL to do that:mad:
Invest your time and use spell check. Woulda shoulda coulda but you lost so I won't pound you with the facts.
AllenEagles15
12-21-2008, 07:42 PM
you guys deserved to lose 41-21 u didn't look like #4 in the nation because u guys were 1 deminson team and we still held u to 21 which no team this whole season has scored more then 21 you guys have money and all this fancy s:Censor: thats a unfair advantage you gus should of lost to Preiman and Trinity and RR stony Point or Us your cheerleaders really p:Censor:me off because they ran on the field after a touchdown and celebrated they should have been flaged for unsportsmen like conduct twice " they are on a active roster meaning they are elgible for pentalties" plus i believe thats againts the rules of the UIL to do that:mad:
If anyone who was at the game last night, do you think this is that one guy that was in their girls tallanettes or whatever they are called?
Pearland1
12-21-2008, 08:06 PM
Wow real mature. Im sorry that having Allen's cheerleaders on the field was a huge disadvantage for the Hurricanes. Hightower just didn't close the deal. There's always next year.
I don't see hightower ever getting to the finals again. They are build a new school that will take many players away from Hightower. It was a great run but everything comes to and end.
Owned05
12-21-2008, 08:16 PM
I don't see hightower ever getting to the finals again. They are build a new school that will take many players away from Hightower. It was a great run but everything comes to and end.
I thought Hightower was an open enrollment school or something like that..
yo hurricanes.....this is unfair dude....we lost the game fair and square last night..if you want to blame someone, go blame Coach Hallmark and his defensive staff for not making any adjustments..why were our DB's five to ten yards off the Allen receivers, especially during their last drive? Why did Hallmark swib quick the last kickoff and not kick it deep? all of those are just a few factors in the reason Hightower lost, not the lil cheerleaders at Allen...they didnt play a down in the game last night
per the rules, they can run on the field with their flags between series after a score.......if you think Allen should have lost to Permian or Trinity or Stony Point, then we should have lost to North Shore, because on paper, they were better then us, and to Cinco because they had a 14-0 lead and ran the same offense that Allen ran...
in losing, you have to be gracious..congratulate your opponent, and pick up the pieces...we had way too many oppurtunities to put points on the board and didnt....this could be the start of a great run for us.......remember this, before Katy got on their great run, they lost the first 5A title game they played in vs Plano in 1994.....and look at what they are doing now....we can learn from this, but dont put fingers at the cheerleaders, or the band or the "rich folk" up in Collin county tx
Amen !!!!
I think HT got outcoached.
both teams had great athletes, coaching made the difference.
dragonsdaddy
12-21-2008, 09:21 PM
you guys deserved to lose 41-21 u didn't look like #4 in the nation because u guys were 1 deminson team and we still held u to 21 which no team this whole season has scored more then 21 you guys have money and all this fancy s:Censor: thats a unfair advantage you gus should of lost to Preiman and Trinity and RR stony Point or Us your cheerleaders really p:Censor:me off because they ran on the field after a touchdown and celebrated they should have been flaged for unsportsmen like conduct twice " they are on a active roster meaning they are elgible for pentalties" plus i believe thats againts the rules of the UIL to do that:mad:
plus, this is the most inane and unintelligible post concerning this or any situation in at least a week. next time after you get through typing, reread, then highlight all and hit delete. we'll all be better off for it. thanks in advance.
ASH1157
12-21-2008, 09:24 PM
Amen !!!!
I think HT got outcoached.
both teams had great athletes, coaching made the difference.
I think there is a strong element of truth to this. The Hightower HC looked very rattled at points, and even threw his placekicker under the bus during the halftime interview. Funny thing was, he was griping about the kicker throwing his placeholder under the bus.
bigdaddydog
12-21-2008, 09:43 PM
Hey vonfore,
Thanks for the write up. I couldn't make the game but you gave me a real sense of how things went down.
Congratulations Eagles!!
~
ruffshod
12-21-2008, 09:44 PM
Amen !!!!
I think HT got outcoached.
both teams had great athletes, coaching made the difference.
That's usually the case, especially in tight games.
big12jack
12-21-2008, 10:03 PM
The difference besides HT blowing 1st half scoring oppurtunity's in the game imo were the two blown coverages by the HT secondary, one by the safety the other by the corner. If those two pass plays are played correctly the game may have had a different outcome, they dind'nt. Was their some questionable decision? sure but those two plays imo were the deciding ones. The third major play was running into the kicker penalty you just cant make those kind of mistakes in that situation.
HT had a great year, the players & staff did a great job, if not they would have never mad it this far. We should commend them for a job well done.Hats off to Allen they made the plays & won the game.
CaneTpt
12-22-2008, 01:31 PM
I think it is somewhat safe to say that Hightower had the more talented players, but I think that's about it as far as advantages go. Allen had better gametime coaching, made the right adjustments, and had better fans. They made the championship plays that Hightower didn't. The best example of this was on fourth and goal from the one, Reeves broke up the fade to Johnson. Thats a championship play. But the main reason that Hightower lost was because of the, at times, horrendous coaching which up until this point I thought was quite solid throughout the year. It was heartbreaking, but congratulations to Allen. Yall are the best team in the state (sorry Katy, you didnt beat anybody and you lost three times. Allen deserves that title more, plus I think they really are better).
v2the4
12-22-2008, 02:27 PM
I don't see hightower ever getting to the finals again. They are build a new school that will take many players away from Hightower. It was a great run but everything comes to and end.
there you go all up in Fort Bend ISD business again...I guess you forgot about the new high school that Pearland ISD just opened, Dawson High, who is ALREADY playing varsity football on the 4A level...they will be 5A for the 2010 football season.....that will be the same year the new Sienna High School(not named yet) opens in Sienna Plantation for 9th and 10th grade students...
Currently, there were only three players who were on the state finalist team the live in Sienna....they are not losing a whole team full of players or students to the new school......and just fyi, the new school in sienna was approved because the residents over there were equating Task test scores to their property values, or something similiar to that.....
BirdOfPrey
12-22-2008, 02:41 PM
Vonfore, that write up was nothing short of masterful. Truly unbiased and factual, we all appreciate it I know. Thank you so much for your efforts. . .first rate.
I'll tell you who I want to see some more of. HT's #11 Shawn Lewis (a junior!!!). He's a bad man that one. Good at coverage, fantastic against the run. A good lawyer could get him convicted of manslaughter. What a baller! I really hope that HT's team doesn't get diluted and they make it next year. It was a pleasure to watch them compete.
As for us, the only way this victory could POSSIBLY taste any sweeter, is if somehow SLCarroll and Katy could have fallen in our path. Katy, only because they are a perennial power. Southlake, because I watched them smack us around every time we had to play them. . .and I thirst for revenge!
allendad
12-22-2008, 02:46 PM
Vonfore, that write up was nothing short of masterful. Truly unbiased and factual, we all appreciate it I know. Thank you so much for your efforts. . .first rate.
I'll tell you who I want to see some more of. HT's #11 Shawn Lewis (a junior!!!). He's a bad man that one. Good at coverage, fantastic against the run. A good lawyer could get him convicted of manslaughter. What a baller! I really hope that HT's team doesn't get diluted and they make it next year. It was a pleasure to watch them compete.
As for us, the only way this victory could POSSIBLY taste any sweeter, is if somehow SLCarroll and Katy could have fallen in our path. Katy, only because they are a perennial power. Southlake, because I watched them smack us around every time we had to play them. . .and I thirst for revenge!
Now that, would have been a "stocking-stuffer" for the ages!:notworthy
(No disrespect intended)
I think it is somewhat safe to say that Hightower had the more talented players, but I think that's about it as far as advantages go. Allen had better gametime coaching, made the right adjustments, and had better fans. They made the championship plays that Hightower didn't. The best example of this was on fourth and goal from the one, Reeves broke up the fade to Johnson. Thats a championship play. But the main reason that Hightower lost was because of the, at times, horrendous coaching which up until this point I thought was quite solid throughout the year. It was heartbreaking, but congratulations to Allen. Yall are the best team in the state (sorry Katy, you didnt beat anybody and you lost three times. Allen deserves that title more, plus I think they really are better).
Well stated. I do think Westerburg and Hallmark looked extremely nervous and excited before or at the start of the game. Westerburg seemed a little more at ease as the game progressed where Hallmark never did? His statement about the kicker on the interview was a little weak but think it was his nervousness showing through. Didn't see it in the game but watching the game on TV at home now saw where he grabbed one player to get him off the field which showed he was still not settled into the game even in the 4th quarter. Just goes to show the coach has to be settle into the game just as much as the players. Great game and both teams showed why they were there.
ASH1157
12-22-2008, 11:32 PM
T'aint too unbiased, but here goes some random observations from this Allen Eagle fan:
1. Though it's been said many times, many ways (just to be seasonal and all that) - Darius Johnson was a hair away from winning the Offensive MVP award. A very thin hair. Had it not been for the MAN, Tucker Carter (the QB that takes a lickin' and keeps on a-tickin'), he would have. That dude scared the ever livin' bejeebers out of me. If he does end up at SMU, then I'd say their program just got 1000% better.
2. As for the Defensive MVP award, how could they NOT have given it to Jeremy Reeves, Allen #5? That guy was AWESOME all night long. Knocking down passes, making a ballsy return on that one punt, playing offense, defense and special teams. In fact, I think he was the overall MVP of the game. Seriously, was he ever OUT of the game? Truly a special athlete that Allen will definitely miss next year. Iowa State, you are VERY lucky to get this guy. He will make things happen for your team.
3. Whoa...the electricity in Reliant Stadium at kickoff was freakin' AMAZING!
I literally had chill bumps up and down my arms (even though it was muggy as heck in that place). What really stood out to me was the turnout on the Allen side. How awesome was THAT??!? I am sure that gave the team a boost of confidence and comfort. That trip down to Houston wasn't the quickest, due to the accident on I-45 outside of Conroe. So the team was delayed in getting their game prep started, I heard. But, nevertheless, they sure seemed cool, calm and collected during warmups. I think it also helped to be the 2nd game of the day. They were able to get a feel for how intense it was going to be.
4. I hate to cast aspersions on Hightower's coach, but I believe the guy was outwitted a lot, especially in the 2nd half. Heck, if Westerberg is as smart as I think he is, he might have gotten wind of that semi-wheels off interview Hightower's coach had with the sideline reporter going in to halftime. Grumbling about your placekicker who was grumbling about the holder. Stressed out much, Coach? Seriously...is that really what you want to focus on right now, as you leave humpteen points out there on the field? As much as there is a game being played on the field, there is a huge chess match happening on the sidelines.
5. To be fair, however (as this is an "unbiased" opinion)...I don't know that it was the right call to go for it on that last 4th and 2 on, what...the 30 yard line (or was it further back)? Field goal = a 2 possession game. Yes, they 'd converted on 2 consecutive 4th downs. But the 3rd time was NOT the charm. Not much has been said about that decision because Allen won the game. But imagine the finger pointing that would be going on today if that decision had proven to be the wrong one. That game was one Hightower trick play away from becoming a tie. (Lesson to Hightower...add a fail safe trick play for next season).
6. Big ole props to Allen's bend but don't break defense. How the heck those dudes kept Hightower from NOT scoring several times in the first half was pretty amazing (although I think they got a lot of help from Hightower itself). Oh yeah! Jeremy Reeves...that's how! (I answered my own question). There was no good reason that game shouldn't have been at least 14-0 at the half and maybe even more.
7. And finally...the Allen Eagle Escadrille needs to be awarded a bunch of stars for its "helmet" (ala what they give the players when they make great plays). They've learned how to play loudly and proudly at critical moments in the game. As many times as I've heard "Macarena" or "March Grandioso", I never get tired of those songs.
CANES '03 ALUM
12-24-2008, 11:14 AM
First I would just like to say congratulations to the Allen Eagles and their fans. Great game. But I want to congratulate the BAND the most for winning the game for them.
The entire week before the game Allen fans were talking about how impressive the band was and other posters tried to downplay its significance. I would now like to apologize on every Hightower fans behalf for making that assumption.
I spoke with some of the players on the team about the "blown coverages" that led to those two game changing plays and found out the real reason why it looked as though we were rattled and out coached. It wasnt being out coached, it was the sheer power of the band that didnt allow the audible called on the sideline to be relayed all the way to the corner on the other sideline. The safety tried to relay the message to the corner but the band made that impossible.
Again I'm not taking anything away from the Allen players because they played an outstanding game. I just hope that yall give your band the credit they deserve too, because without them who knows what the score might have been.
To the Allen Band:notworthy
Hurricanes192
12-24-2008, 11:43 AM
I am not complaining about the game we made mistakes i just was saying that when hightower played northshore we got flagged for throwing the ball in the air they shouldn't been allowed to dance and do flips on the field after each touchdown the UIL should of said Allen should of only allowed the flags to run on the field not the cheerleaders dancing and flips on the field thats all i am saying the game over all was good and we made mistakes that cost us the game
Hurricanes192
12-24-2008, 12:36 PM
Allen tell your band and cheerleaders they are in trouble The parent of #68 on hightower noticed that Allen's Band stiil kept playing while he was down and they tried to say someething to the UIL but they ignored them plus it is againts UIL rules for Flags to run on the field after a tochdown and they cheerleaders aren't allowed to dance on the Field either we checked it is against UIL rules and they can be in series trouble and will cause there is evidence the game is on TV
ALLENFANDINGO5
12-24-2008, 01:50 PM
Allen tell your band and cheerleaders they are in trouble The parent of #68 on hightower noticed that Allen's Band stiil kept playing while he was down and they tried to say someething to the UIL but they ignored them plus it is againts UIL rules for Flags to run on the field after a tochdown and they cheerleaders aren't allowed to dance on the Field either we checked it is against UIL rules and they can be in series trouble and will cause there is evidence the game is on TV
Okay since you say it is a rules infraction for the flags and the cheerleaders being on the field. The first time they would have gotten a penalty, and honestly they would have been smart enough not to do it again. So the benefit would have been 1 penalty. Do you think that would have changed the outcome of the game?
Hurricanes192
12-27-2008, 12:53 PM
Okay since you say it is a rules infraction for the flags and the cheerleaders being on the field. The first time they would have gotten a penalty, and honestly they would have been smart enough not to do it again. So the benefit would have been 1 penalty. Do you think that would have changed the outcome of the game?
no but still i am addressing the band and cheerleaders because when #68 for Hightower got hurt. The camera's pointed to Allen's band and they were still playing when a player was Hurt they needed to shut up we gave respect when number 11 your backup QB got hurt and still played then the cheerleaders ran on the field and danced all over did cartwheels and flips and the flags ran on the field after every touchdown that isn't allowed in highschool in college it is probley allowed so this is highschool so tell the band and cheerleaders to follow UIL rules they need to read up on them
E-Vol-ution
12-27-2008, 01:04 PM
Look....your offense, defense and coaching was adjusted to after the first quarter and a half. You lost the end of game part of it somewhere.
FB Hightower (especially Highsmith) are players, but you lost to a complete team. No blame or excuses.....you couldn't close the deal and didn't adjust.
no but still i am addressing the band and cheerleaders because when #68 for Hightower got hurt. The camera's pointed to Allen's band and they were still playing when a player was Hurt they needed to shut up we gave respect when number 11 your backup QB got hurt and still played then the cheerleaders ran on the field and danced all over did cartwheels and flips and the flags ran on the field after every touchdown that isn't allowed in highschool in college it is probley allowed so this is highschool so tell the band and cheerleaders to follow UIL rules they need to read up on them
no but still i am addressing the band and cheerleaders because when #68 for Hightower got hurt. The camera's pointed to Allen's band and they were still playing when a player was Hurt they needed to shut up we gave respect when number 11 your backup QB got hurt and still played then the cheerleaders ran on the field and danced all over did cartwheels and flips and the flags ran on the field after every touchdown that isn't allowed in highschool in college it is probley allowed so this is highschool so tell the band and cheerleaders to follow UIL rules they need to read up on them
Sounds like you need to read up on the UIL rules as these are all allowed. Thought Hightower played Katy? They do it the same if not more from what I saw last week.
I have the recorded version of the game and every time a player on either team went down the music stopped. Not sure you know any of which you speak!
AllenFan09
12-27-2008, 01:21 PM
no but still i am addressing the band and cheerleaders because when #68 for Hightower got hurt. The camera's pointed to Allen's band and they were still playing when a player was Hurt they needed to shut up we gave respect when number 11 your backup QB got hurt and still played then the cheerleaders ran on the field and danced all over did cartwheels and flips and the flags ran on the field after every touchdown that isn't allowed in highschool in college it is probley allowed so this is highschool so tell the band and cheerleaders to follow UIL rules they need to read up on them
So now you're trying to take the fun away from sports? I'm tired of these rules that prevent celebration, its a game, its a place to have FUN. Not rules that prevent the team from celebrating and congratulating what the team has done. As for the band, I was near the band and it was hard to see what was going on the field, and it takes sometime to spread the word to 600 people that there is someone hurt when loud music is playing in your ear. The Allen director usually tries to get the band to sit as quickly as possible when there is someone hurt on the field, but you don't catch these things always.
AllenEagle06
12-27-2008, 01:58 PM
If flags and cheerleaders are not allowed to celebrate on the field after a score, then just about every team in 8-5A has violated that rule.
Oh wait I forgot, it IS a rule.:eek::rolleyes: We aren't allowed to cheer either after a touchdown. Just sit and nod approvingly. Anyone who jumps up and screams gets thrown out of the stadium for exessive celebration.
cane19
12-27-2008, 03:06 PM
His statement about the kicker on the interview was a little weak but think it was his nervousness showing through.
I have not seen this halftime interview (would like to). I have heard it mentioned a few times and if anyone has it I would love to see it. However, I would assume that it was just nerves. I think that Hallmark is a great coach. He did a tremendous job his first time at the helm. What's more important, the players love him and respect him.
ALLENFANDINGO5
12-27-2008, 06:44 PM
Hallmark's pregame and halftime interview show signs of nerves. Allen had players throwing up on the sideline a couple of times. Who could blame anyone for maybe ramblin a little. He had his team ready to play that is for sure. I think it is obvious that Allen did make some better gametime adjustments. We might not be having this discussion IF Darius Johnson and #44 hadnt collided on a kickoff return. So to pin the loss on the coaches nerves might be a little unfair.
I have not seen this halftime interview (would like to). I have heard it mentioned a few times and if anyone has it I would love to see it. However, I would assume that it was just nerves. I think that Hallmark is a great coach. He did a tremendous job his first time at the helm. What's more important, the players love him and respect him.
Its available on replay on FSSW over the next week at varying times. I'm sure Hallmark is a very good coach with the players love him and respect him. I was just saying he seemed nervous throughout the game and never settled in. I questioned his comment about the kicker after the missed field goal as he said something about the kicker should be more concerned about getting the kick off then yelling at the holder. I just thought he should not even have mentioned that on tv.
Hallmark's pregame and halftime interview show signs of nerves. Allen had players throwing up on the sideline a couple of times. Who could blame anyone for maybe ramblin a little. He had his team ready to play that is for sure. I think it is obvious that Allen did make some better gametime adjustments. We might not be having this discussion IF Darius Johnson and #44 hadnt collided on a kickoff return. So to pin the loss on the coaches nerves might be a little unfair.
Sorry but have to as this was a major difference in the game! Westerberg settled into the game while Hallmark never did. As good as Hallmark did getting Hightower there his play calls at time come into question. I really doubt if Johnson had not collided he would have scored as there was three Allen players ahead of him, so best he would have got was another 10 yards.
Maroondog
12-28-2008, 01:38 PM
Quite honestly, my view of this game was that it apppeared early on that the Hightower skill guys were better than Allen once they got into space. What happened though was that Hightower was unable, (you pick the reason), to maintain discipline and make their athleticism work for them. Allen kept the game close and eventually won out by simply making adjustments and being tenacious.
You can blame or praise coaching either way, but after all, don't forget it was a game for both programs being the first time to play for the title and somebody had to blink.
No matter what the stakes, games ALWAYS come down to execution and mistakes. Too much analysis is just grinding on the details.
Allen won. Coulda, woulda, shoulda won't change it now. :D
dragonsdaddy
12-28-2008, 02:21 PM
Allen tell your band and cheerleaders they are in trouble The parent of #68 on hightower noticed that Allen's Band stiil kept playing while he was down and they tried to say someething to the UIL but they ignored them plus it is againts UIL rules for Flags to run on the field after a tochdown and they cheerleaders aren't allowed to dance on the Field either we checked it is against UIL rules and they can be in series trouble and will cause there is evidence the game is on TV
period key broken? random capitalization has me fooled.(i know, i know--caps key broken?)
ALLENFANDINGO5
12-29-2008, 06:12 AM
Its available on replay on FSSW over the next week at varying times. I'm sure Hallmark is a very good coach with the players love him and respect him. I was just saying he seemed nervous throughout the game and never settled in. I questioned his comment about the kicker after the missed field goal as he said something about the kicker should be more concerned about getting the kick off then yelling at the holder. I just thought he should not even have mentioned that on tv.
Sorry but have to as this was a major difference in the game! Westerberg settled into the game while Hallmark never did. As good as Hallmark did getting Hightower there his play calls at time come into question. I really doubt if Johnson had not collided he would have scored as there was three Allen players ahead of him, so best he would have got was another 10 yards.
Watch the play closer, I think he was cutting back away from the Allen players. NEVERTHELESS, Allen's coaches made the proper adjustments and the players executed. I think that HT's players paniced more than the coaches. I.E the last play of the game, they werent ready to start the play when the clocked started back up. There are other examples.
At halftime HT was outplaying Allen so I am sure they felt they didnt need to make as many adjustments. Coaching mistake yes but nerves no.
texastwo
12-30-2008, 11:52 AM
For Hightower to totally dominate the first half and only get 7 points was their demise.
obviously they did not totally dominate because they only scored 7 points! If they totally dominated, they'd have scored many more points.
The Allen defense was greatly underestimated.
Although they let you rack up yards mid field and longer, they became a solid brick wall the closer HT got to the end zone.
The several plays near the end zone line where Allen stopped HT cold was a defining moment in my opinion.
Allen was weaker at midfield and longer in the first half - extremely tough near the end zone where it ultimately counted - that's what gave HT the rushing yards.
Hurricanes192
12-31-2008, 02:07 PM
Sounds like you need to read up on the UIL rules as these are all allowed. Thought Hightower played Katy? They do it the same if not more from what I saw last week.
I have the recorded version of the game and every time a player on either team went down the music stopped. Not sure you know any of which you speak!
Post me the section of the rules saying it is allowed plus the UIL said that there is line that the cheerleadrs can't cross or the team forifets cause the uil threaten us with it your cheerleaders were along the field up to the 50yrd line thats past the line i was at the game and i heard your band play when number 68 for hightower got hurt and was down we gave respect to your jounior 2nd string qb when he got hurt so your band needs to respect our injuried player cause your qb was lucky he was not laid out by #11 or 1 or 2 cause they tackle very hard:mad:
Eagle1986
12-31-2008, 02:12 PM
Post me the section of the rules saying it is allowed plus the UIL said that there is line that the cheerleadrs can't cross or the team forifets cause the uil threaten us with it your cheerleaders were along the field up to the 50yrd line thats past the line i was at the game and i heard your band play when number 68 for hightower got hurt and was down we gave respect to your jounior 2nd string qb when he got hurt so your band needs to respect our injuried player cause your qb was lucky he was not laid out by #11 or 1 or 2 cause they tackle very hard:mad:
The band stopped when they realized that the player was down, the song was already in process when he went down. Why didn't they lay him out then, if they tackle so hard? :cool: I have never seen a team penalized because of the cheerleaders, let alone be made to forfeit. :eek:
Hurricanes192
12-31-2008, 02:14 PM
obviously they did not totally dominate because they only scored 7 points! If they totally dominated, they'd have scored many more points.
The Allen defense was greatly underestimated.
Although they let you rack up yards mid field and longer, they became a solid brick wall the closer HT got to the end zone.
The several plays near the end zone line where Allen stopped HT cold was a defining moment in my opinion.
Allen was weaker at midfield and longer in the first half - extremely tough near the end zone where it ultimately counted - that's what gave HT the rushing yards.
domination also comes from defense cause allen had chances to score in the first half hightower's defense stepped up and shut those opportunites down in the first half and if i remember right hightower held allen to barely above 50 yrds rushing at 1 point allen had -rushining yards thats total domination in the first half even though it was 7-0 you are right it should of been 27-0 at half but allen had nothing going the first half thats what total domination is for Hightower in the first half
Post me the section of the rules saying it is allowed plus the UIL said that there is line that the cheerleadrs can't cross or the team forifets cause the uil threaten us with it your cheerleaders were along the field up to the 50yrd line thats past the line i was at the game and i heard your band play when number 68 for hightower got hurt and was down we gave respect to your jounior 2nd string qb when he got hurt so your band needs to respect our injuried player cause your qb was lucky he was not laid out by #11 or 1 or 2 cause they tackle very hard:mad:
You can look here for UIL rules UIL (http://www.uil.utexas.edu/)
Our band stopped playing after realizing an injury every time, not sure where you were at? Besides our band plays music not noise like I heard from your tubas all night.
#40 should have been penalized for the hands to Tuckers face if not ejected. I watched the game on tv again and all he did was smack with both hands at Tuckers facemask, what a dirty play that was. Most of your players do not tackle very hard as much as they try to hurt people with elbows and such. I can show you at least 6 personal fouls not called that should have been.
Either way though it doesn't matter Hightower lost and nothing will change that now.
domination also comes from defense cause allen had chances to score in the first half hightower's defense stepped up and shut those opportunites down in the first half and if i remember right hightower held allen to barely above 50 yrds rushing at 1 point allen had -rushining yards thats total domination in the first half even though it was 7-0 you are right it should of been 27-0 at half but allen had nothing going the first half thats what total domination is for Hightower in the first half
What cause the statistician fell a sleep several times? Allen had over 100 yards rushing and 280 yds passing in the game if they kept correct stats. Several times during the game Allen had 2-3 first downs and the stats did not change as the game progressed. We all saw that the stats were going to be incorrect while the game was going on. Still only one stat counts and that is:
Allen - 21
Hightower - 14
Mr. Rod
12-31-2008, 03:15 PM
What cause the statistician fell a sleep several times? Allen had over 100 yards rushing and 280 yds passing in the game if they kept correct stats. Several times during the game Allen had 2-3 first downs and the stats did not change as the game progressed. We all saw that the stats were going to be incorrect while the game was going on. Still only one stat counts and that is:
Allen - 21
Hightower - 14
Your right the final score is the only stat that matters. I loved this game. It was one of the best ones I've been to this year. I kept telling my buddy that whole night, if Allen can't keep up with Hightower's speed the 'Canes may take it home. But luckily for you guys you kept up in the 2nd half and found your passing game. I was rooting for you guys. I sat front row at the 20 by the band. I'll wear earplugs next time. I was just thrown off by your run game, how come you guys didn't have a blocker to run in front of your HB? I usually don't see alot of that. But whatever ya'll got the W, Congrats. :notworthy
ALLENFANDINGO5
12-31-2008, 04:12 PM
domination also comes from defense cause allen had chances to score in the first half hightower's defense stepped up and shut those opportunites down in the first half and if i remember right hightower held allen to barely above 50 yrds rushing at 1 point allen had -rushining yards thats total domination in the first half even though it was 7-0 you are right it should of been 27-0 at half but allen had nothing going the first half thats what total domination is for Hightower in the first half
Other than Darius's 42 yard run the only rushing yards HT had was Highsmith tucking it when the coverage forced it. So to say that is dominance is less than accurate. Plus, leaving points on the field due to poor execution is not very dominating. Stats are for losers. The only one that counts ever is turnovers because momentum changes usually follows turnovers.
teamtopdog
12-31-2008, 04:57 PM
Post me the section of the rules saying it is allowed plus the UIL said that there is line that the cheerleadrs can't cross or the team forifets cause the uil threaten us with it your cheerleaders were along the field up to the 50yrd line thats past the line i was at the game and i heard your band play when number 68 for hightower got hurt and was down we gave respect to your jounior 2nd string qb when he got hurt so your band needs to respect our injuried player cause your qb was lucky he was not laid out by #11 or 1 or 2 cause they tackle very hard:mad:
wow....take it to the 11 and under thread/board
big12jack
01-04-2009, 02:09 PM
Say what you want, but the lose was not on the HT staff. The two blown coverages, an interception and a running into the kicker in crucial parts of the game were key. HT had a chance in the first half to put Allen away and did not, hats off to Allen.
Are people really *****ing and whining about the bands playing? Come on this is a football board!
MoAHS1979
01-05-2009, 09:32 AM
#40 should have been penalized for the hands to Tuckers face if not ejected. I watched the game on tv again and all he did was smack with both hands at Tuckers facemask, what a dirty play that was. Most of your players do not tackle very hard as much as they try to hurt people with elbows and such. I can show you at least 6 personal fouls not called that should have been.
Either way though it doesn't matter Hightower lost and nothing will change that now.
I was hoping someone else noticed the cheap shot #40 took at Tucker! I didn't catch it at the game, but watched what I had recorded at home (at 3 am) and was amazed that #40 was allowed to continue playing. Dirty, dirty, dirty.
v2the4
01-05-2009, 09:15 PM
if anything, it should have been a 15 yard penalty.....the same thing just happened in the Ohio St/Texas game where OSU's #90 went high on Colt McCoy and got his hands into the side of McCoys helmet...refs caught that one.....
but, if you think he should have been penalized for that one, then Hightower should have gotten 25 yards on their final drive because Allen had 12 men on the field for every play except the last one....
guess the refs didnt do their job on either side.
Hurricanes192
01-05-2009, 10:39 PM
if anything, it should have been a 15 yard penalty.....the same thing just happened in the Ohio St/Texas game where OSU's #90 went high on Colt McCoy and got his hands into the side of McCoys helmet...refs caught that one.....
but, if you think he should have been penalized for that one, then Hightower should have gotten 25 yards on their final drive because Allen had 12 men on the field for every play except the last one....
guess the refs didnt do their job on either side.
I just watch the game again and your right there were 12 men on plays you said
TheRocket
01-06-2009, 11:27 PM
domination also comes from defense cause allen had chances to score in the first half hightower's defense stepped up and shut those opportunites down in the first half and if i remember right hightower held allen to barely above 50 yrds rushing at 1 point allen had -rushining yards thats total domination in the first half even though it was 7-0 you are right it should of been 27-0 at half but allen had nothing going the first half thats what total domination is for Hightower in the first half
I watched the game as did some other people I know, we all agreed that it looked like Hightower was going to put Allen away in the first half although their dominance was starting to ebb about midway through the second quarter. From what I remember, it seemed as though Allen was starting to figure out Hightowers offense and started to slow them down. Allen took #12 out of the game after the first quarter and a half, at the same time, they were using Hightowers strength and speed against themselves when they were on offense. Allen started running well executed screens and Hightower was having a hard time staying at home and playing disciplined defense. Hightower stayed to aggresive on defense and paid the price in the second half!
That's my take, in anutshell, it looked like Hightower was going blow Allen off the field, they were fast, strong and elusive, then, slowly but surely, Allen started to figure them out and won the game with execution! Hightower was more athletic but Allen executed better when it counted most.
ALLENFANDINGO5
01-07-2009, 12:54 AM
if anything, it should have been a 15 yard penalty.....the same thing just happened in the Ohio St/Texas game where OSU's #90 went high on Colt McCoy and got his hands into the side of McCoys helmet...refs caught that one.....
but, if you think he should have been penalized for that one, then Hightower should have gotten 25 yards on their final drive because Allen had 12 men on the field for every play except the last one....
guess the refs didnt do their job on either side.
not to dispute the 12 men, but i heard the announcer say that Allen had 12 on the field but the guy was running off, so are you saying that Allen played the plays with 12 or were they getting caught subbing out players.
TheRocket
01-07-2009, 09:59 AM
if anything, it should have been a 15 yard penalty.....the same thing just happened in the Ohio St/Texas game where OSU's #90 went high on Colt McCoy and got his hands into the side of McCoys helmet...refs caught that one.....
but, if you think he should have been penalized for that one, then Hightower should have gotten 25 yards on their final drive because Allen had 12 men on the field for every play except the last one....
guess the refs didnt do their job on either side.
vonfore, you mention the Ohio St./Texas game with #90 hitting Colt McCoy. I was watching that pretty close myself and thought #90 was over the top with the way he was going after McCoy. The one time he got a hold of McCoy in the backfield and couldn't bring him down he ended up jumping up on McCoys back and then slid back down and when he got his feet on the ground he slammed McCoy to the ground! I was sure that the would get a roughing call on that play but he didn't. You do remember that play don't you? I believe he hit McCoy in the side of the head on that play and on at least 3 other occasions he hit McCoy in the side of the helmet.
To me, that was the dirtiest play I've seen in quite some time on a football field. If I was a ref, I would've warned him 1 time and then ejected him! I didn't see that from Hightower in the championship game but I wasn't looking for it either. If there was anything close to what #90 from Ohio St. was doing then it should've been called!
jmo2818
01-07-2009, 04:21 PM
vonfore, you mention the Ohio St./Texas game with #90 hitting Colt McCoy. I was watching that pretty close myself and thought #90 was over the top with the way he was going after McCoy. The one time he got a hold of McCoy in the backfield and couldn't bring him down he ended up jumping up on McCoys back and then slid back down and when he got his feet on the ground he slammed McCoy to the ground! I was sure that the would get a roughing call on that play but he didn't. You do remember that play don't you? I believe he hit McCoy in the side of the head on that play and on at least 3 other occasions he hit McCoy in the side of the helmet.
To me, that was the dirtiest play I've seen in quite some time on a football field. If I was a ref, I would've warned him 1 time and then ejected him! I didn't see that from Hightower in the championship game but I wasn't looking for it either. If there was anything close to what #90 from Ohio St. was doing then it should've been called!
What the HT player did was worse, but it should have been a penalty not an ejection. Ultimately though, it's water under the bridge now.
ASH1157
01-08-2009, 11:37 AM
What the HT player did was worse, but it should have been a penalty not an ejection. Ultimately though, it's water under the bridge now.
I wonder how long Tucker Carter felt the effects from that game, though. He took some brutal hits that day.
allendad
01-08-2009, 11:42 AM
vonfore, you mention the Ohio St./Texas game with #90 hitting Colt McCoy. I was watching that pretty close myself and thought #90 was over the top with the way he was going after McCoy. The one time he got a hold of McCoy in the backfield and couldn't bring him down he ended up jumping up on McCoys back and then slid back down and when he got his feet on the ground he slammed McCoy to the ground! I was sure that the would get a roughing call on that play but he didn't. You do remember that play don't you? I believe he hit McCoy in the side of the head on that play and on at least 3 other occasions he hit McCoy in the side of the helmet.
To me, that was the dirtiest play I've seen in quite some time on a football field. If I was a ref, I would've warned him 1 time and then ejected him! I didn't see that from Hightower in the championship game but I wasn't looking for it either. If there was anything close to what #90 from Ohio St. was doing then it should've been called!
#40's hit to the face on that 4th and 1 was SOOOOOOOO much worse than what McCoy experienced. It was a two-handed smash to the face mask that sent him flying back onto his back. The TV shows the Ump right there with his finger up his nose. It was one of the most blatant fouls I've ever seen in ANY football game. Oh well.
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