Katy-CyFalls What A Game!

[Drake]

Incredible effort by both squads. That stupid fade call on 2nd and goal from the 2 yard line up 18 points and playing not to lose after that cost CyFalls the game, but the players deserved a better result.

Katy certainly has a chance to win state if the other regional winners are over-rated too...

[rellufnalla]

I am eating a little crow over the game, I thought Katy would have run off with it. Cy Falls really played well and had some great defense particularly in the third quarter.

Katy pulled the rabbit out of their hat in the end - due in part to 15 years of experience in playoff competition.

[katytigersports]

Well Strake if you think we are overrated then after we win the next two games maybe we could ask your coach to not run from us and play! Cy Falls played an Aggie vs Longhorn type of game! Great game!

[wideopen]

Hell of a game, congratulations to both teams. They played their a$$ off.

17 5a must be pretty tuff after all.

[TXfbfan]

anyone have any details on how they came back

[DirtyHarry01]

Jeez, Strake, for a team that avoided playing Katy at all costs, you certainly are not qualified to call anyone "overrated." Perhaps next year, if you get a little braver, you won't have to hide from them.

[Oldman123]

This katy team is overrated, to all the katy fans who say this team is better than the 2003 or 2000 teams you are wrong. The katy OC found out today why katy always ran the ball, all that passing almost lost them the game, until the end. This team really needs to work on there power running game, esp up the middle. To ALL CY-Falls fans and players i was so glad to see your faces when you lost today. Yall were showboating so much when yall were winning it was sick, act like you have been there before. So glad to see you lose.

[TigerV1]

Incredible effort by both squads. That stupid fade call on 2nd and goal from the 2 yard line up 18 points and playing not to lose after that cost CyFalls the game, but the players deserved a better result.

Katy certainly has a chance to win state if the other regional winners are over-rated too...

You know....would it be possible for you to just congratulate both teams without going for some kind of low blow? You've just never been able to let go of your dislike of Katy. Statements like that are proof.

[CyFallsMom]

To ALL CY-Falls fans and players i was so glad to see your faces when you lost today. Yall were showboating so much when yall were winning it was sick, act like you have been there before. So glad to see you lose.

Please explain "showboating" - oh, is that when you are supporting your team. There was a lot of yelling on both sides and it was all in good sportsmanship. Katy is not overrated - they are a good team otherwise they wouldn't have come back and beat us. But Cypress Falls is good too - I've been saying it until I'm blue in the face and nobody would believe me. Katy will go all the way and win state - I will be backing them completely. After all, I want our guys to be able to say, as some consolation, that they lost to the state champs. Of course there were sad faces - we could have beat one of the best teams ever - I don't think it was showboating at all - just a lot of out of our minds insane excitement. Like I said in the other thread, we had the most fun of both sides for 3/4 of the game and boy was it fun!

You sound very bitter by the way...too bad.

[Oldman123]

I was mainly talking about the cyfalls players, they were acting like they were all bad and the game wasnt over! Im not saying this team is overrated compared to other teams in the playoffs just saying they are compared to a few past teams.

[baldtiger15]

Since most of the people on this site can't tell the difference between a 4i and a 5 technique, or make sense of a cover 3 or zero, i won't bore you with jargon on how Katy's defense simply wasn't doing what they were coached to do. Cy Falls is where they belong- turning in their equipment. Dalton had the worst game he's had all year, but when you have set 11 school records this season in passing and tied 2 more, you have confidence in your passing attack. Which is why Fuda got doubled over everytime he was iso to the boundary. Dalton got rattled. As for showboating- i said before that Cy Falls players lacked class, now i believe it's more than just the players. I was disappointed at the lack of sportamanship showed by Cy Falls players during the game, but even worse, before the game by their cheer leaders yelling at our receivers during warm ups, "hey #16, you F***ing s**k" then to top it off, I stop a fight during half time started by Cy F players on the Katy side. I apologize if I'm being harsh- but my comments before the game about Freeman and Welch's arrogance were true. katy is a very different program- that is why they are advancing! Come on Smithson Valley, a worthy opponent

[CyFallsMom]

I was mainly talking about the cyfalls players, they were acting like they were all bad and the game wasnt over! Im not saying this team is overrated compared to other teams in the playoffs just saying they are compared to a few past teams.

They are 16-18 year old boys - please forgive them for acting like it. A month ago, they weren't even in the running for the playoffs - slipped in the back door to get the 3rd place spot. They were hearing all of this time that they would lose the first, then the second, then the third game and that Katy would be up by 50 or so points at the half and then put in their 2nd or 3rd teams. You bet they were excited out of their mind...it may have hurt them a bit in the end by letting the adrenaline get a little out of control but I, for one, was just as crazy today. They have never had a playoff game like that that I remember seeing - if they had won, it would have gotten even crazier. Please try to keep all that in mind - they really felt they had beaten Goliath just like the rest of us did. These buys are pretty good kids too.

[Allkaty07]

wow all i can say is wow! The katy tigers had so much heart today! I love being a tiger:)

[Oldman123]

We beat teams we werent supposed to but we did and we celelabrated, but we never tried to show up an opponent that i can remember.

[CyFallsMom]

"hey #16, you F***ing s**k" then to top it off, I stop a fight during half time started by Cy F players on the Katy side. I apologize if I'm being harsh- but my comments before the game about Freeman and Welch's arrogance were true. katy is a very different program- that is why they are advancing! Come on Smithson Valley, a worthy opponent

I think you are lying - you don't know those kids - they aren't even close to arrogant. They were just excited. I have met some really nice Katy people but you are giving me a bad impression. All week, there has been talk about how much Katy would win by and how much BETTER everything that is Katy is. I respect that - it is a good program but these kids played a heck of a game and just nearly beat Katy. I had dinner with some Katy friends after the game and they were very gracious and complimentary of the Eagles. Freeman, from all accounts, is a very nice young man -one who will be back next year - maybe we'll all meet up again:eek: With much talk like what you are saying, any outsiders who want to support Katy will go running in the other direction at a fast clip.

[Tut]

Incredible effort by both squads. That stupid fade call on 2nd and goal from the 2 yard line up 18 points and playing not to lose after that cost CyFalls the game, but the players deserved a better result.

Katy certainly has a chance to win state if the other regional winners are over-rated too...
Cy Falls earned Katy's respect by PLAYING them to a heart wrenching finish. It's too bad Strake didn't allow their players a similar opportunity to beat this obviosly OVER-RATED team which is now in the semis. Everyone Katy beats (in your opinion) must be over-rated. I guess the just Jesuits wanted to keep their under-rated tag.:p

[OfficerCartman]

Come on guys, "class" arguments are always so stupid and don't get you anywhere. You're making Katy look bad too. The "classy" thing to do would be to move on and stop whining. I wasn't there, but I can tell you from experience that football is an emotional game, and you don't always do the right thing 100% of the time. I am from Katy, btw.

[Oldman123]

Im not arguing about class im just glad to see them lose, they played a good game but by there actions they got what they deserve.

[gldneagles]

This katy team is overrated, to all the katy fans who say this team is better than the 2003 or 2000 teams you are wrong. The katy OC found out today why katy always ran the ball, all that passing almost lost them the game, until the end. This team really needs to work on there power running game, esp up the middle. To ALL CY-Falls fans and players i was so glad to see your faces when you lost today. Yall were showboating so much when yall were winning it was sick, act like you have been there before. So glad to see you lose.
oldman.....you can kiss my a$$. the fans and players were giving it all they had today. you just got scared and had to find something to knock! and THIS is from an OLDMAN!!!

[Oldman123]

Ya they gave it all they had and still got beat. I would have gave cy falls all the credit in the world for almost beating us but they had to go and showboat and talk $h!t, what goes around comes around. 32-28

[baldtiger15]

I think you are lying - you don't know those kids - I had dinner with some Katy friends after the game and they were very gracious and complimentary of the Eagles.

Ma'am with all due respect, when I'm standing next to a nice young lady cheerleader who said these unclassy things, followed by the trash i heard on the field by players prior to the game... Maybe you don't know them very well. Life is different in the trenches with these athletes day in and day out, that's when you really get to know them. As for the Katy people- it's easy to be nice after you've won. I'm sure they were very proper. I'm sorry for my harshness please understand. to quote Alexis de Toqueville, "I overstate my case, simply to make it"

[gldneagles]

Since most of the people on this site can't tell the difference between a 4i and a 5 technique, or make sense of a cover 3 or zero, i won't bore you with jargon on how Katy's defense simply wasn't doing what they were coached to do. Cy Falls is where they belong- turning in their equipment. Dalton had the worst game he's had all year, but when you have set 11 school records this season in passing and tied 2 more, you have confidence in your passing attack. Which is why Fuda got doubled over everytime he was iso to the boundary. Dalton got rattled. As for showboating- i said before that Cy Falls players lacked class, now i believe it's more than just the players. I was disappointed at the lack of sportamanship showed by Cy Falls players during the game, but even worse, before the game by their cheer leaders yelling at our receivers during warm ups, "hey #16, you F***ing s**k" then to top it off, I stop a fight during half time started by Cy F players on the Katy side. I apologize if I'm being harsh- but my comments before the game about Freeman and Welch's arrogance were true. katy is a very different program- that is why they are advancing! Come on Smithson Valley, a worthy opponent
you, sir have just turned the katy program from an elite program to an elitist program. i just knew there would be some ground low katy fans that would show up after this game. you sir have disrespected the katy program. you and oldfart. katy took falls lightly JUST LIKE LAST YEAR even though everyone said they learned the lesson last year. i was ready to come on here and congratulate katy on their fantastic come-from -behind win.. but as soon as i get here, i see this crap!!!! i think we see who is the elite program and who is the elitist!!! some of your fans just make me want to PUKE!!! the kids played hard, the coaches coached well. katy won. can't you idiot fans leave it at that? NO! some katy fans have to come up with all this other crap just because another team played them tough! sad. so sad for katy.

every katy fan should hang their head in shame over this crap or fight it. which is it?

[ktchamp97]

Katy did not take Cy Falls lightly. Cy Falls just outplayed them for 3.75 quarters.

[gldneagles]

Katy did not take Cy Falls lightly. Cy Falls just outplayed them for 3.75 quarters.
thank you champ. the kids and coaches deserve that. you, sir are a true fan.

[rwilleby]

To the Cy-Falls team...
Wow, you guys showed up to play... No blow-out here... We struggled on the run and the pass and you guys took advantage of Katy's mistakes... I say "Good Game" to the players, coaches, parents, fans and all involved...

To the Katy Tigers...
Thank you for an exhilarating game... For never giving up and playing like the Champions you are... Your parents, schoolmates and fans are very proud of you...

To the posters on this board...
Some of us (including myself) need to eat a little crow tonight and keep in mind that anything can happen at any given time... Cy-Falls did better than any Katy fan expected and they should be praised for that... Nothing is for sure and you just have to wait to see what happens... Emotions were high today on both sides... How one responds is how you are judged... I would hope that the Katy fans would show the same character our boys displayed on the field today... Let negative comments fall to the wayside for they will only drag us down...

Well, that my opinion anyway...

[kttigersrock]

Katy did not take Cy Falls lightly. Cy Falls just outplayed them for 3.75 quarters.

I don't see how anyone who was at the game can say anything but that Cy-Falls took it to the Tigers and very much deserved to win this game. I don't know so much that Katy 'took them lightly' as they were just outplayed by the Eagles for most of the game. CF stuffed the running game. The Katy passing game was off. The Katy D seemed unable to stop the Eagles. The Tigers were able to make some huge plays at the end to pull it out. I will honestly admit that I did not think it would be so close, but I also must say Cy-Falls brought it, dealt it, and did a great job and deserve kudos and our respect! Also... really enjoyed the drill team routine at halftime - very good and different.

[KTFootball_05]

I know not all the players fron Cy-Falls where involved in the "Show-Boating" as it was called. But #2 was leading the charge when they where ahead by 18.... I'm sure he learned a valueable lession today, to let your play on the field do your talking for you. It all part of growing. Congrats on a great season

[baldtiger15]

I personally told the Eagles well done, and that they played hard. We did NOT underestimate them. We just got out played. I never said that cy falls didn't play hard. I simply stated that they lacked class, and thus did not deserve to win. The same way I don't approve of SLC running up the score in order to preserve rankings. This lacks character as well. Katy football is not only about winning championships. Those wins are a result of teaching good football fundamentals to young men while instilling character. That element of character is how a team is able to dig themselves out of hole when their down, and alos not make excuses when they lose. The bitterness in your post is evident. Cy Falls beat us for three quarters, because they have great athletes and outstanding coaches.

[gldneagles]

my opinion on what happened............got deep into the 4th quater and falls was up by a bunch. thought they had it in the bag and relaxed. katy kids have too much pride and stepped it up and kept fighting. they fought hard enough to win the game. great job by the kids, coaches and fans. keep it going and represent r3 well. go all the way, katy!

[baldtiger15]

my opinion on what happened............got deep into the 4th quater and falls was up by a bunch. thought they had it in the bag and relaxed. katy kids have too much pride and stepped it up and kept fighting. they fought hard enough to win the game. great job by the kids, coaches and fans. keep it going and represent r3 well. go all the way, katy!

that sir is exactly what happened- i never discredited the athletic prowess of Cy Falls, simply a very surprising lack of class by a select few of the fans, athletes, and cheer squad. thank you for your wishes, we will avenge you. Keep in mind the number of returning letterman you have, see you next year.

[gldneagles]

i have no idea what any of you are speaking of "showboating". never saw any of that. atleast nothing more than the typical confidence display shown by young kids and displayed by kids on both sides of the ball today. maybe katy does not see it too much and it stands out because they play in a weak district and no other team can display confidence. 175a is tough. this is why i really get turned off by katy, judson, slc. all the same. they can never just say "good job, it was tough today". SOME have to say we beat you and your attitude sucked!

i really was so ready to back katy the rest of the way. maybe you guys could learn some CLASS!!!

[gldneagles]

that sir is exactly what happened- i never discredited the athletic prowess of Cy Falls, simply a very surprising lack of class by a select few of the fans, athletes, and cheer squad. thank you for your wishes, we will avenge you. Keep in mind the number of returning letterman you have, see you next year.
ok.......our fans display thier lack of class during the game (still trying to figure that one out)...........your fans display a lack of class after the game, on this board for all to see.

[CyFALL FAN]

To ALL CY-Falls fans and players i was so glad to see your faces when you lost today. Yall were showboating so much when yall were winning it was sick, act like you have been there before. So glad to see you lose.

Wish we had known you were there....you sound so much smarter than the rest of us. Lack of class is a great way to describe you.

Both Katy and CyFalls players were great...what a game!!!

[katyfan]

Don't let a few Katy posters keep you from backing us. If you pulled off the win tonight, I'd be behind y'all to represent our region.

Cy Falls players and some cheerleaders showed their emotions about the game in different ways. They don't have the playoff experience that Katy does, so I wouldn't expect them to act like it. Like someone has already mentioned, these are kids. Congratulations on a great season and hats off to the drill team.....awesome performance!!!!

[ktCarl]

my opinion on what happened............got deep into the 4th quater and falls was up by a bunch. thought they had it in the bag and relaxed. katy kids have too much pride and stepped it up and kept fighting. they fought hard enough to win the game. great job by the kids, coaches and fans. keep it going and represent r3 well. go all the way, katy!

My opinion is that we were getting beat for most of the game and then Cy-Falls coaches made some critical coaching mistakes that let Katy in the game and finally the momentum and victory. I saw these coaching errors in Falls' previous playoff contests. The Cy-Falls players deserved better because they played hard and should have come away with the victory.
The Katy players did show that they have character and heart. They never gave up. After I pick up a prescription of valium and rest a few days I'll comment if this was a great game or not.

[rwilleby]

i have no idea what any of you are speaking of "showboating". never saw any of that. atleast nothing more than the typical confidence display shown by young kids and displayed by kids on both sides of the ball today. maybe katy does not see it too much and it stands out because they play in a weak district and no other team can display confidence. 175a is tough. this is why i really get turned off by katy, judson, slc. all the same. they can never just say "good job, it was tough today". they all have to say we beat you and your attitude sucked!

i really was so ready to back katy the rest of the way. maybe you guys could learn some CLASS!!!
Everyone has stories about "classless acts" but do you really want to hear them? I have direct knowledge of two that occured at today's game by Cy-Falls students who represented good sportsmanship... and if my son or daughter did something like that I'd be whipping their @ss about now (in a non-threatening or physically harmful manner)...

Calling someone classless, talking down to them, bragging about how "Tough" your district is and not seeing when some people say "Good job" just continues this silly conversation about CLASS...

What exactly does that mean anyway... Seems to me it's just a catch-all phrase to talk negative about someone else... What do we gain from that?

[gldneagles]

this was just such a great game for both sides today! falls dominating for so long when the predictions were anywhere from 42-60 to 14. and then for the katy program to come back and win it in the last 30 seconds! i was so proud of the kids and coaches on both sides. what a high school game!

it just really set me off to see some of the posts after such a tremendous display of heart and effort on both sides of the field today.

[gldneagles]

Everyone has stories about "classless acts" but do you really want to hear them? I have direct knowledge of two that occured at today's game by Cy-Falls students who represented good sportsmanship... and if my son or daughter did something like that I'd be whipping their @ss about now (in a non-threatening or physically harmful manner)...

Calling someone classless, talking down to them, bragging about how "Tough" your district is and not seeing when some people say "Good job" just continues this silly conversation about CLASS...

What exactly does that mean anyway... Seems to me it's just a catch-all phrase to talk negative about someone else... What do we gain from that?
have you seen any falls fan talk about the acts of katy's players, fans, supporters. NO. its just a game and things happen. we understand. but then we are not elitest because we do not have the titles. maybe we can blast the other team's antics after we win a few titles. keep talking about something that means nothing and i will keep coming back. even though baseball season is just around the corner.

[rwilleby]

have you seen any falls fan talk about the acts of katy's players, fans, supporters.
I have not... I have seen a couple of Katy posters make comments that I might not have... but they do not represent the whole of Katy, just as I can assume you don't represent Cy-Falls... But maybe they experienced something at the game that we could not see from the stands... something they felt should be mentioned...

You also have managed to pull a couple of negative posts for your comments while discarding the positive ones...

How young people act in public IS important... what they say DOES mean something... and people form opinions from THEIR actions...

And I could care less about baseball season...

Your turn...

[TigerV1]

this was just such a great game for both sides today! falls dominating for so long when the predictions were anywhere from 42-60 to 14. and then for the katy program to come back and win it in the last 30 seconds! i was so proud of the kids and coaches on both sides. what a high school game!

it just really set me off to see some of the posts after such a tremendous display of heart and effort on both sides of the field today.


I say just let it go.....EVERYONE! This was a game of epic proportions. Both teams, fans, cheerleaders, bands, brigades, and coaches all deserve better than us calling each other "classless." I would say for the majority that both Cy Falls and Katy have great character and that they deserve the best.

This was the best high school football game I have ever seen. I hugged someone I didn't even know today. I saw grown men cry. The classless talk needs to just die.

[CyFallsMom]

gldneagle - there was an incident involving some Katy fans that came over to our side - I'm not going to mention it because it doesn't really matter at this point but it did apparently help to get the team fired up even more from what I was told. My point is, both sides have the "bad" types - I hope that the above posts that are very mean towards Cy Falls players, fans and coaches aren't taken too seriously - I would hope that we can still back the Tigers in their quest for the championship. There are some really nice people over there and they would have had class whether it ended the way it did or with us winning. These above are some silly fans talking, not the players or the true fans of Katy - they showed class as did the Falls players...Falls just had a little more adrenaline but they are not bad kids at all. The Cheerleaders - I have no idea what that's about and if they really did say these things, they should be disciplined severely by the principal on Monday - that is definitely not necessary and any other kid would get disciplined for the same.

[KT2000]

Both teams deserve a lot of credit in this one. First of all, Cy Falls has one heck of a defensive line. Like I said in the other thread, that's the first time I've seen an opponent take it to the Katy Hawgs like that since Lufkin at the start of '03.

The Falls defense played a great game, and it took some absolutely clutch play by Katy QB Andy Dalton and the receivers to get the points late. Also, the Tiger offensive line pass protected like they had for most of the season in those last four or five minutes.

Dalton delivered one of the most clutch performances I've seen from a Katy QB. Also, WRs Michael Fuda and Bobby Harris came up huge as well.

Katy had a lot of respect for Cy Falls' speed on the perimeter, and Welch (and the OC) did a good job of just taking the short and underneath stuff for five yards a pop. Some debatable decisions made on both sides in this game.

I don't blame the Falls guys for celebrating like they did. I don't think anyone in the stadium expected that to be taking place. Realistically, I'd imagine the Falls coaches were hoping to stay within a touchdown as late as possible to have a chance and win.

Of course, it is a 48 minute game for a reason. Great effort by Cy Falls and gutsy rally by Katy to keep at it, and refuse to lose.

[CyFallsMom]

And I could care less about baseball season

You would if you were at Falls - we have a very good one:) Have to get through basketball first though

[rwilleby]

I say just let it go.....EVERYONE! This was a game of epic proportions. Both teams, fans, cheerleaders, bands, brigades, and coaches all deserve better than us calling each other "classless." I would say for the majority that both Cy Falls and Katy have great character and that they deserve the best.

This was the best high school football game I have ever seen. I hugged someone I didn't even know today. I saw grown men cry. The classless talk needs to just die.
It was a very good game... Right up there with SLC... Die it shall...

[Tut]

As I was hauling trash cans (band) up the ramp after the game, a lid fell off and a heartbroken Eagle player picked it up and handed it to me. That was classy thing to do!:)
Y'all played a great game and have a great future. You can hold your heads high.

[gldneagles]

I say just let it go.....EVERYONE! This was a game of epic proportions. Both teams, fans, cheerleaders, bands, brigades, and coaches all deserve better than us calling each other "classless." I would say for the majority that both Cy Falls and Katy have great character and that they deserve the best.

This was the best high school football game I have ever seen. I hugged someone I didn't even know today. I saw grown men cry. The classless talk needs to just die.
i just SO much agree with this post!

[CyFallsMom]

As I was hauling trash cans (band) up the ramp after the game, a lid fell off and a heartbroken Eagle player picked it up and handed it to me. That was classy thing to do!
Y'all played a great game and have a great future. You can hold your heads high.

Call me Pollyanna but THOSE are the stories I like to hear.

Yes, I can't wait until next football season!!! It's going to be good. This was a great test for the boys in green and gold. Now they can take it and run - lots of underclassmen on that team.

[TigerV1]

Call me Pollyanna but THOSE are the stories I like to hear.

Yes, I can't wait until next football season!!! It's going to be good. This was a great test for the boys in green and gold. Now they can take it and run - lots of underclassmen on that team.

They will be a force to reckon with. Cy Falls is good. No worries.

[KTTex]

Two really fantastic schools. Great talented football teams.

Katy & CyFalls. Awesome Game.

Thanks for the great game today. CyFalls is really really good.

Congrats on your season this year. I know CyFalls will be in the playoffs again next year. :)

[Grrrrrr]

Two really fantastic schools. Great talented football teams.

Katy & CyFalls. Awesome Game.

Thanks for the great game today.

I must ditto this. A great game today. Cyfalls had a great game plan. No player on either side should hang their heads about this game. It was one for the ages.

I agree with champ. Katy did not take Cy Falls lightly. Cy Falls just played great and stayed with their game plan until the last few minutes.

[gldneagles]

i really liked the way johnson got ALL the players together at times to discuss something about the game. may have been a good thing for falls to do in the last few minutes. something to learn from for next year.

[gldneagles]

i really liked the way johnson got ALL the players together at times to discuss something about the game. may have been a good thing for falls to do in the last few minutes. something to learn from for next year.

i am going to bed now. i am exhausted. probably not as much as the athletes that were on the field today. but then i am also old.

[FreshmanTiger]

I must ditto this. A great game today. Cyfalls had a great game plan. No player on either side should hang their heads about this game. It was one for the ages.

I agree with champ. Katy did not take Cy Falls lightly. Cy Falls just played great and stayed with their game plan until the last few minutes.

Cy Falls did the work and came ready to play and Katy always comes ready to play so hats off to both teams for one of the best games I have ever seen. :)

[Drake]

I haven't even read all the reply's here yet, but... That "overrated" comment just meant that I had over-estimated Katy... From the stats and talk, I thought Katy might be the next 2003 North Shore or something.

C'mon, from strictly an analysis perspective of the game: CyFalls held their own and possibly even won the battle in the trenches. Katy's offense was unimaginative and their coaches panicked once they got behind. Is anyone in denial that Katy started lobbing bombs in the 3rd quarter when they still had plenty of time to get back in the game AND what was that kick-off return play? We ran that in 7th grade (same result by the way)...

It took a miracle(s) for Katy to win the game... The dumbest 2nd and goal play ever by a team leading by 18 points, the refusal to give CyFalls corners any help, especially on Fuda, and CyFalls going to a 3 man rush (playing prevent) once they got the big lead...

Now, CyFalls is a talented squad, but I didn't expect them to look like the better team today... I expected Katy, Smithson, Southlake, and Lufkin to steamroll into the semis...

Being as objective as I can, Katy's drive for 5 is in trouble....

[KatyTigerDad0407]

Hey StrakeDrake, how do you like my signature?

[gldneagles]

I haven't even read all the reply's here yet, but... That "overrated" comment just meant that I had over-estimated Katy... From the stats and talk, I thought Katy might be the next 2003 North Shore or something.

C'mon, from strictly an analysis perspective of the game: CyFalls held there own and possibly even won the battle in the trenches. Katy's offense was unimaginative and their coaches panicked once they got behind. Is anyone in denial that Katy started lobbing bombs in the 3rd quarter when they still had plenty of time to get back in the game AND what was that kick-off return play? We ran that in 7th grade (same result by the way)...

It took a miracle(s) for Katy to win the game... The dumbest 2nd and goal play ever by a team leading by 18 points, the refusal to give CyFalls corners any help, especially on Fuda, and CyFalls going to a 3 man rush (playing prevent) once they got the big lead...

Now, CyFalls is a talented squad, but I didn't expect them to look like the better team today... I expected Katy, Smithson, Southlake, and Lufkin to steamroll into the semis...

Being as objective as I can, Katy's drive for 5 is in trouble....
i do not think so. they are fine. when they can come back from that far down that late in the game..........the kids learned something today that their coaches continually try to teach. never give up. once they learn that, kids become unstoppable!

[Orangebred]

Gee, I come on here and hear Katy fans talking trash about our team...big surprise there! First our boys have no class and then it was only close because the mighty Katy Tiogers just didn't take us seriously. I HOPE all your real fans are embarrassed by some of your posters. Our players have heard nothing but how badly Katy was going to beat them, how they barely deserved to even be on the field with them and how maybe some day they would be worthy of competing against the great Katy juggernaut. You act like we've never been to a layoff game before. Then they go out there and play with emotion and take it to Katy for most of the game and you expect none of them to get emotional during the game? I saw plenty of Katy players making some bad, "frustration" plays and talking trash and pushing heads in the ground after the play, etc. It happens, it' spart of the game and both teams did it. To come on here and try and say that Falls didn't deserve a win after the way they played is just idiotic. Maybe you are living in ther 50's and putting on your letter sweater for the game but your players aren't. I just thought it was an idiotic thing to even say.

As for the game, both teams left their hearts out on the field...it's that simple. Falls did a great job and had the chance to put the game away after that strange trick play that backfired. You could see it on the Katy sideline and the Falls players saw it too. But then Katy made a good play for the INT and took it down and scored and got the momentum back. That's the key play and a score there by us and it's ballgame. Didn't happen although I can't understand how anyone can even stretch to call that a bad play call. Every lay that doesn't work is a bad call...too bad we don't know what's going to happen before we run them.

I think what the game boiled down to was that Falls had some matchup problems with our DBs vs your WRs. The coaches knew that ahead of time but to their credit the players did well and held their own for most of the game. They just couldn't hold Katy's WR for the whole game and Katy was able to take advantage of that mismatch when the game was on the line. Congratulations on that but no one with even the smallest amount of sense or football knowledge can say that Katy took Falls for granted. We kicked your butt for most of the game, we just couldn't put it away.

And that game today is exactly why I think Texas high school football is the best sport around. Good luck next week although I must admit I will find it hard to root for you now after reading this embarrassment of a thread.

[ktchamp97]

"Survive and advance" is the name of the game at this point. I've never bought in to score predictions in the playoffs, because all of the teams left are undefeated when it matters and they're there because they deserve to be. Expecting teams to steamroll at this point is silly.

Even though they didn't win by the margin alot of people expected, I think they may just suit up next week and give it a shot...for old times sake ;).

BTW, that play you ran in 7th grade worked to perfection once before when Katy was in need of a huge momentum changer...this time it blew up in their faces.

[Drake]

Hey StrakeDrake how do you likw my signature?I only had time to read half of it... Which part? ;)

[ktchamp97]

Orangebred,

Don't let a few comments by isolated posters ruin your impression of Katy. If you read most of the posts about the game, you'll see that the vast majority is giving credit where it is due. Nearly everyone acknowldges that Cy Falls completely outplayed the Tigers for 45 minutes. Your team played outstanding and that is the reason they nearly won.

[gldneagles]

Orangebred,

Don't let a few comments by isolated posters ruin your impression of Katy. If you read most of the posts about the game, you'll see that the vast majority is giving credit where it is due. Nearly everyone acknowldges that Cy Falls completely outplayed the Tigers for 45 minutes. Your team played outstanding and that is the reason they nearly won.
agreed. it is just a few that got to me. they are gone now. we are safe, again.

[SLCDRGN]

I continue to have my questions as to how good this Katy team is. I really questioned their competition in district and especially thru the playoffs. Have they played anyone? Their win totals look good but the majority of the teams they have played have done nothing. My guess is that SV could wind up putting a licking on the Tigers.....I hope not because I would like to see SLC get a second chance.....I believe the results could be greatly different!!

[gldneagles]

I continue to have my questions as to how good this Katy team is. I really questioned their competition in district and especially thru the playoffs. Have they played anyone? Their win totals look good but the majority of the teams they have played have done nothing. My guess is that SV could wind up putting a licking on the Tigers.....I hope not because I would like to see SLC get a second chance.....I believe the results could be greatly different!!
have they played anyone? are you kidding? they played the fighting golden eagles from cypress-falls today! a regional final game! as everyone says, if a team makes it this far, they have something! have they played anyone......try another tack to stir something up. region 3 is so much over region 4. no contest. had beasley not gone down (my nephew did well in his spot, though!) westfield would be continuing their march to state also. an injury prevented a region 3 sweep this year, but we still have 1 left!

[CyFallsMom]

I continue to have my questions as to how good this Katy team is. I really questioned their competition in district and especially thru the playoffs. Have they played anyone? Their win totals look good but the majority of the teams they have played have done nothing. My guess is that SV could wind up putting a licking on the Tigers.....I hope not because I would like to see SLC get a second chance.....I believe the results could be greatly different!!

The Tigers had a game today that may have made them just a little bit stronger and better than before. Don't count on that licking next week. They showed fortitude today when we clearly had the game in hand. We, contrary to what a lot of people believe or thought, have a very good team - even with a 9-4 record...that record has been thrown out the window at this point - we could probably have beat just about anyone today. Katy is the only team left in Houston in the 5a hunt so there will be a lot of people standing behind them to bring it back to this area.

Also, with regards to what ktchamp97 said, there have been some very nice comments made too about our team, both to me personally and on this board. A few bad eggs won't completely ruin the batch...just throw them out! I think we have gained a whole new respect by those same Katy fans who had us losing before the game started. I would think that, had we won, they would have had the same attitude. Okay, I'm going to watch the tape of the big TEXAS WIN (Hook Em Horns - last time they won the national championship was on my 10th birthday so I'm hoping they'll do it again - soon) - I guess there is no time for sleep tonight:rolleyes:

[Drake]

"Survive and advance" is the name of the game at this point. I've never bought in to score predictions in the playoffs, because all of the teams left are undefeated when it matters and they're there because they deserve to be. Expecting teams to steamroll at this point is silly.

Even though they didn't win by the margin alot of people expected, I think they may just suit up next week and give it a shot...for old times sake ;).

BTW, that play you ran in 7th grade worked to perfection once before when Katy was in need of a huge momentum changer...this time it blew up in their faces.I agree. No one gets to the regional finals without some game so certainly CyFalls had a chance. Heck, I predicted Katy winning 48-26, so even I knew Cy was capable.

As far as the 7th grade play... I was just flabbergasted that Katy seemed to panic in the 3rd quarter. Dominant teams don't start chunking bombs and running gadget plays when they get down. Of course, Katy was not a dominant team in this game.

Certainly Katy should go ahead and play the game next week. Pulling this game out may add an intangible to the team that could pay dividends the rest of the way.

[MWKT]

IF you get past Lufkin and IF we get past SV, we will see.

[blevins]

Since most of the people on this site can't tell the difference between a 4i and a 5 technique, or make sense of a cover 3 or zero, i won't bore you with jargon on how Katy's defense simply wasn't doing what they were coached to do. Cy Falls is where they belong- turning in their equipment. Dalton had the worst game he's had all year, but when you have set 11 school records this season in passing and tied 2 more, you have confidence in your passing attack. Which is why Fuda got doubled over everytime he was iso to the boundary. Dalton got rattled. As for showboating- i said before that Cy Falls players lacked class, now i believe it's more than just the players. I was disappointed at the lack of sportamanship showed by Cy Falls players during the game, but even worse, before the game by their cheer leaders yelling at our receivers during warm ups, "hey #16, you F***ing s**k" then to top it off, I stop a fight during half time started by Cy F players on the Katy side. I apologize if I'm being harsh- but my comments before the game about Freeman and Welch's arrogance were true. katy is a very different program- that is why they are advancing! Come on Smithson Valley, a worthy opponent

I apologize for posting on here, but I figured I would before one the players would.

Cy Falls celebrated when they scored just like anytime because its football and they are kids. When you are told the whole week ( and in warm ups by the other team) that you do not even belong in this game and you are hanging with one of the most storied programs in the city, you are going to be happy. No difference between that and the katy fans ran on the field and the players were happy.

And as far as class in terms of someones vocabulary, considering one of your players called a Cy Falls player the N word, I would not go there.

[MWKT]

"This katy team is overrated, to all the katy fans who say this team is better than the 2003 or 2000 teams you are wrong. The katy OC found out today why katy always ran the ball, all that passing almost lost them the game, until the end. This team really needs to work on there power running game, esp up the middle. To ALL CY-Falls fans and players i was so glad to see your faces when you lost today. Yall were showboating so much when yall were winning it was sick, act like you have been there before. So glad to see you lose."

What a JERK.

[KatyTigerDad0407]

I love Katy, but I also love my close friends from Cy Falls. I have called them several times through out the evening to see how their Trainer daughter is doing. I know how these tough loses can affect our children. It is no surprise that she has been sad. As a parent, you hate to see your kid hurting, whether physically or emotionally. I love this game of football. There are so many lessons to learn as a child and an adult. I'm still learning.

[KT-Tiger]

I have a question for the Falls fans (I hope cyfallsmom can answer this since she seems to have band connections)...

What's with the band director? I watched all of your games in the playoffs this year and NEVER saw him do what he did today. I have no problem with the band playing when the opposite team is near them but to blatantly try to guess the snap count with horns to throw the other team off was just wrong. I can't remember if it was on this board or another that I read the Alvan band did the same thing and their team received a penalty for this behavior. I think they should have received a penalty.

I remember one year in the dome (i think it was against IKE) our band was in the end zone playing normal fight song stuff (close to halftime so they were on the field getting ready to perform) they were told by the refs to stop playing or Katy would get a flag.

I'm just glad that Katy was able to overcome this as they never were bothered by it so in the end I guess it really didn't matter.

P.S. I don't want to start another flame war like some prior posts did!!! so it's just my opinion and I wonder what others think. Also, I posted this on another board and after reading everything I could find about the game I didn't see anything about it so maybe it's just me.

As for the game this was one of the best playoff games I have ever seen and the SLC '03 game runs a close second.

[Drake]

Hey StrakeDrake, how do you like my signature?Dad... Okay, I see what you're talking about... Maybe you shouldn't have my over-rated comment as a tagline... I mean, everytime someone from Katy reads one of your post they might be agitated by it... Um, you know the last thing I want is to agitate Katy fans on this board... :D

[MWKT]

Please explain "showboating" - oh, is that when you are supporting your team. There was a lot of yelling on both sides and it was all in good sportsmanship. Katy is not overrated - they are a good team otherwise they wouldn't have come back and beat us. But Cypress Falls is good too - I've been saying it until I'm blue in the face and nobody would believe me. Katy will go all the way and win state - I will be backing them completely. After all, I want our guys to be able to say, as some consolation, that they lost to the state champs. Of course there were sad faces - we could have beat one of the best teams ever - I don't think it was showboating at all - just a lot of out of our minds insane excitement. Like I said in the other thread, we had the most fun of both sides for 3/4 of the game and boy was it fun!

You sound very bitter by the way...too bad.

Mom...you've handled yourself with alot of class, even after today's disappointment. I don't know what makes a sore WINNER like Oldman tick, and I don't want to, but it is embarrassing to me and I suspect to alot of Katy fans as well.

Your boys played with an attitude, yes. They needed to. They had something to prove...and they did it. We were lucky to win.

[ktchamp97]

Okay, I'm going to watch the tape of the big TEXAS WIN (Hook Em Horns - last time they won the national championship was on my 10th birthday so I'm hoping they'll do it again - soon) - I guess there is no time for sleep tonight:rolleyes:

CyFallsMom, you are too cool to be real...

Hook 'Em!

[BigNobody]

I noticed their band as well, and so did other fans. We thought it was a pretty cheap, but, nevertheless, we aren't refs :) Apparently they felt an entire band suddenly blaring right next to the Katy-D , trying to get them to jump, was a completely viable football strategy :)

So all we can do is smile, wave, and all get along :)

[SLCDRGN]

Well.....so much for an answer to my question other than attitude. I guess we will have to see as the playoffs resume!!

[Drake]

By the way... I thought the referees were good today. Looked like they may have missed an pass interference by CyFalls, but all in all they didn't influence the outcome, which is a credit to them...

[Drake]

Well.....so much for an answer to my question other than attitude. I guess we will have to see as the playoffs resume!!I'll answer even though of the 4 semifinalists, I've only seen Katy.

Katy's interior lines looked suspect to me. Their defensive line came up with some big stops at crucial times at the end, but they had to stunt to do it and it was at a point in the game when it was obvious CyFalls would run. Their offense line blocks well, but didn't seem to dominate either. Size and strength is the key to playing them. I suspect CyFalls had the best lines on either side that Katy has faced this year and thats why they looked vulnerable. If the other semifinalists have small lines, Katy may look better against them.

Katy's quarterback has a great arm, but zeros in on their main receiver (Cuda?) from the the snap on passing plays. Doesn't seem to read as well or check off if option A is covered.

Again, I don't know anything about the three teams that are left. Katy's best chance is if their opponents from here out are small. Are they?

[KT2000]

Strake, if this is the only game you've seen Katy play then your comments are justified. However, as someone who has seen nearly every game Katy's played this year I can tell you the Tigers are much better than what they showed today. Obviously, Cy Falls played a good game but Katy missed a lot of assignments and did things they had not done all year.

Dalton passed for right at 330 yards, so evidently he did a few things right in the end. He was under a heavy rush for much of the game, so he had to get rid of the ball quicker than he wanted. Normally, the running game is good enough to keep pressure off of him and I'm not sure where that went today. A completely uncharacteristic and freakish game from Katy's point of view up until the final 4 or 5 minutes.

I don't think you can make any sweeping generalizations based on one game. Plenty of championship caliber teams have a bad game or two. For example, the egg Texas tried to lay in Stillwater and Kyle Field didn't seem to help Colorado (better than both OSU and A&M) in the Big 12 game today.

I've been following Katy football since 1992 and am convinced this is one of the top three Tiger teams I've seen in 13 years of following the program.

[ftballin11]

SV's biggest part is their O-line, which is VERY similar to Katy's. Fuda is a main reciever, but as shown today, Andy does look at others. Lufkin got to play a Cove team which passes ALOT and stopped it pretty well. They did not look that big, but all teams have a few players who are. All game I was saying that Cove just needs to pound it up the middle, Lufkin D-line could not stop it. They ran it up the middle on a hand off to the running back maybe 3 times, 2 of those went for 20+ yards and the 3rd one a 50+ yard touchdown. Lufkin lost their key player,QB, and their backup #16 does not look like he can hang with a good team. Although, I did enjoy when he threw a pass and tripped himself:) . Just kidding. Katy and SV= same teams practically. I could have swore Katy was wearing a different uniform and it was blue and white today, or they stole our playbook or we stole theirs:)

[MWKT]

I haven't even read all the reply's here yet, but... That "overrated" comment just meant that I had over-estimated Katy... From the stats and talk, I thought Katy might be the next 2003 North Shore or something.

C'mon, from strictly an analysis perspective of the game: CyFalls held their own and possibly even won the battle in the trenches. Katy's offense was unimaginative and their coaches panicked once they got behind. Is anyone in denial that Katy started lobbing bombs in the 3rd quarter when they still had plenty of time to get back in the game AND what was that kick-off return play? We ran that in 7th grade (same result by the way)...

It took a miracle(s) for Katy to win the game... The dumbest 2nd and goal play ever by a team leading by 18 points, the refusal to give CyFalls corners any help, especially on Fuda, and CyFalls going to a 3 man rush (playing prevent) once they got the big lead...

Now, CyFalls is a talented squad, but I didn't expect them to look like the better team today... I expected Katy, Smithson, Southlake, and Lufkin to steamroll into the semis...

Being as objective as I can, Katy's drive for 5 is in trouble....

First, most teams have gut-check games like this along the way to championships.

I agree that the Katy play-calling was "unimaginative", but options are not so many in close games. Dalton overthrew several passes to wide-open receivers as well as making some tosses directly to opponents...very un-Andy-like.

CyFalls had great quickness on defense and it created alot of problems with the power running game, limiting the options further.

It seems the coaches have great faith in Andy's abilities as evidenced by the previously mentioned "lobbing bombs" and their faith was eventually justified.

Concerning the kickoff return play, Katy has had great success with that play in the past. No play is bullet-proof.

Only SV "steamrolled" during this round. SLC, Katy, AND Lufkin found themselves losing in the 4th quarter this weekend. CC and Plano had better records than CF, but you can't account for matchups, difficulty of schedule, and how a team is playing on a particular week. If we do that, Katy AND SV get blown out by SLC the past two years.

As much as the CF defense played too defensively, the CF offense played too offensively down the stretch. Arm-chair analysis with a hindsight view and no way to change history always see 20/20. Congrats. You are a genius.

Maybe we should just forfeit next week.

[Oldman123]

First off, I never once said Cy Falls has no class, just because you showboat dosent mean you dont have class. I was watching and yes they did it i know what I saw. I think Cy Falls exposed katys weak run game, almost everything went outside. Cy Falls beat the crap out of us and I give them all the credit in the world but that showboating crap is what i hate! Katy got lucky today, I hope they get there problems fixed by the SV game.

[slcdragons]

I personally told the Eagles well done, and that they played hard. We did NOT underestimate them. We just got out played. I never said that cy falls didn't play hard. I simply stated that they lacked class, and thus did not deserve to win. The same way I don't approve of SLC running up the score in order to preserve rankings. This lacks character as well. Katy football is not only about winning championships. Those wins are a result of teaching good football fundamentals to young men while instilling character. That element of character is how a team is able to dig themselves out of hole when their down, and alos not make excuses when they lose. The bitterness in your post is evident. Cy Falls beat us for three quarters, because they have great athletes and outstanding coaches.

Running up the score to preserve rankings? It's called working on technique and perfecting your craft. Its getting your team ready to be hopefully playing in December.

[toonman]

Running up the score to preserve rankings? It's called working on technique and perfecting your craft. Its getting your team ready to be hopefully playing in December.

I agree. Look at tems who pulled starters out for the second half, (or so we were told) and when it came to a close game they couldn't do it. I would never critise a coach for the player selection at any time in any game. I never saw SLC running up the score.

[BayouBoy34]

Incredible effort by both squads. That stupid fade call on 2nd and goal from the 2 yard line up 18 points and playing not to lose after that cost CyFalls the game, but the players deserved a better result.

Katy certainly has a chance to win state if the other regional winners are over-rated too...

StrakeDrak - My opinion of you gets lower and lower with each post. CF Falls played a heck of a game and what we did in the last 20 minutes provides proof of our ability. There was no need for your comments. By making that statement you also slammed Cy Falls and they don't deserve that. :mad:

[BayouBoy34]

This katy team is overrated, to all the katy fans who say this team is better than the 2003 or 2000 teams you are wrong. The katy OC found out today why katy always ran the ball, all that passing almost lost them the game, until the end. This team really needs to work on there power running game, esp up the middle. To ALL CY-Falls fans and players i was so glad to see your faces when you lost today. Yall were showboating so much when yall were winning it was sick, act like you have been there before. So glad to see you lose.

Don't blame the entire Cy Falls fan base for a few bad posts by a couple of fans. I truly feel sorry for Cy Falls. They, in my opinion, were the better team yesterday but the score did not indicate that. Their fans were great and I'm sure were in shock - much like we were last year this time. Cy Falls - you certainly have my respect.

[BayouBoy34]

my opinion on what happened............got deep into the 4th quater and falls was up by a bunch. thought they had it in the bag and relaxed. katy kids have too much pride and stepped it up and kept fighting. they fought hard enough to win the game. great job by the kids, coaches and fans. keep it going and represent r3 well. go all the way, katy!

The momentum changed on the inception by Katy following a Cy Falls recovery of a fumble on the kickoff return. Not sure why Cy Falls coach made that call up by 18 points.

[BayouBoy34]

[QUOTE=StrakeDrake]I haven't even read all the reply's here yet, but... That "overrated" comment just meant that I had over-estimated Katy... From the stats and talk, I thought Katy might be the next 2003 North Shore or something.

"Overrated" and "over-estimated" are two different things. You should choose your words more carefully.

[BayouBoy34]

Orangebred - there are only a few, hopefully, bad posters from Katy. The rest of us saw Cy Falls stick it to Katy for over 3 quarters but just not score enough points to put it away. I saw a motivated emotional Cy Falls team that played a great game. Every team will have some players or fans that don't live up to our standards of acceptable social behavior. So, please don't categorize all of us with the bad posters. If Cy Falls would have won the game I would have cheered for them at the next game like I did last year with Clear Lake last year. :)

[Drake]

Maybe we should just forfeit next week.Nah... Agreed that teams can have off weeks and those that do and still win are usually the ones that are special (Texas and USC come to mind)...

Being anti-Katy (only a little) had nothing to do with my assessment. After watching the game, I truely believe CyFalls was at least Katy's equal, yesterday anyway. A lot of goofy things had to happen for Katy to win yesterday. Here's why I think the comeback had more to do with CyFalls unravelling than Katy regaining dominance:

> CyFalls coaches had to make one of the dumbest play calls in playoff history. Up 18 with 3rd and goal from the 2, they check off to a FADE play? It MIGHT (naw, you never pass in that situation - ask Darrell Royal why) be one thing if there was isolation and their receiver was a foot taller, but the receiver was small and three Katy guys were right there. Of course, Katy did intercept and returned it to about the 30, regaining its fans, and its momentum...

> Immmediately, Katy SCORED on about a 70 yard play that started out as a pass in the flats to none other than the guy they'd thrown to ALL game. HOW in the world is he STILL being single covered at that point in the game?

> CyFalls then went to a 3 man rush and started playing prevent which gave Dalton more time than he had had previously.

> Katy had to complete basically a Hail Mary pass on 3rd (or 4th) and long on what was a busted play that only succeeded because Dalton had time to scramble around and avoid the three men that were chasing him. (I noticed Katy was smart enough to blitz when CyFalls had to pass at the end)

> CyFalls tried to milk the last 2 minutes not even trying to make a game sealing first down and using their last timeout to stop the clock before the ill-fated punt attempt. They sorely needed that last time out moments later when their defense took the field as their secondary was confused and in disarray.

Considering all of this, I'm giving CyFalls more credit for Katy's comeback than Katy... Regardless, Katy got'er done... If my objectivity is skewed (I don't think it is) by my bias, then that's a good thing for Katy, right? We'll just have to see what happens...

Not knowing much about the other remaining teams, I just have a hunch Katy will have to play much better than they did yesterday to beat the teams that are left...

[ktrain]

No woulda coulda shouda, no ifs ands and butts, The Eagles took it to us for three and a half quarters and we were fortunate to pull it out in the end. Take nothing away from the Tigers, they rose up when their backs were against the wall, but CF played one heck of a game and put us against that wall. My heart goes out to your team, we experienced the agony of defeat in the same round and same stadium last year. I have no doubt the Eagles will make a return trip next year and I hope we are lucky enough to meet you there. Keep your heads up and be proud of what you accomplished this year. Thanks for a great game.

[CyFallsMom]

What's with the band director? I watched all of your games in the playoffs this year and NEVER saw him do what he did today. I have no problem with the band playing when the opposite team is near them but to blatantly try to guess the snap count with horns to throw the other team off was just wrong. I can't remember if it was on this board or another that I read the Alvan band did the same thing and their team received a penalty for this behavior. I think they should have received a penalty.

Well, knowing him very well like I do, I'll try to explain, if there is an explanation. He is a very intense person and a good band director but he doesn't really know a lot about the football rules. He truly feels that the band can make or break a game and he has done this thing many times. One time after a Jersey Village game, he actually told the kids they had won the game for the football team!!! It use to make my son nuts. His college band director does not do this sort of thing. I have often sat there and wondered why we didn't receive penalties for it but, usually, the other band had been doing the same thing. The Katy band played like the entire second half and they were pretty loud too but, the difference I guess, is that they weren't trying to time it with the snaps. If all the kids in the band had been there for us, it REALLY would have been loud but he doesn't force them to go to playoffs - something that really irritates me.

[baldtiger15]

Nah... Agreed that teams can have off weeks and those that do and still win are usually the ones that are special (Texas and USC come to mind)...

Being anti-Katy (only a little) had nothing to do with my assessment. After watching the game, I truely believe CyFalls was at least Katy's equal, yesterday anyway. A lot of goofy things had to happen for Katy to win yesterday. Here's why I think the comeback had more to do with CyFalls unravelling than Katy regaining dominance:

> CyFalls coaches had to make one of the dumbest play calls in playoff history. Up 18 with 3rd and goal from the 2, they check off to a FADE play? It MIGHT (naw, you never pass in that situation - ask Darrell Royal why) be one thing if there was isolation and their receiver was a foot taller, but the receiver was small and three Katy guys were right there. Of course, Katy did intercept and returned it to about the 30, regaining its fans, and its momentum...

> Immmediately, Katy SCORED on about a 70 yard play that started out as a pass in the flats to none other than the guy they'd thrown to ALL game. HOW in the world is he STILL being single covered at that point in the game?

> CyFalls then went to a 3 man rush and started playing prevent which gave Dalton more time than he had had previously.

> Katy had to complete basically a Hail Mary pass on 3rd (or 4th) and long on what was a busted play that only succeeded because Dalton had time to scramble around and avoid the three men that were chasing him. (I noticed Katy was smart enough to blitz when CyFalls had to pass at the end)

> CyFalls tried to milk the last 2 minutes not even trying to make a game sealing first down and using their last timeout to stop the clock before the ill-fated punt attempt. They sorely needed that last time out moments later when their defense took the field as their secondary was confused and in disarray.

Considering all of this, I'm giving CyFalls more credit for Katy's comeback than Katy... Regardless, Katy got'er done... If my objectivity is skewed (I don't think it is) by my bias, then that's a good thing for Katy, right? We'll just have to see what happens...

Not knowing much about the other remaining teams, I just have a hunch Katy will have to play much better than they did yesterday to beat the teams that are left...

Not only is your play by play analysis poor and innacurate, but it stands to reason that if you give Cy Falls more credit for Katy's comeback than Katy, Then I can openly change my humble statements and say that I give Katy more credit than Cy Falls for allowing them to be ahead by 18 in the final moments of the game. We know this is not true. Could you be anymore fallacious? Allow me to list your errors for everyone else's sake.
1- stop whining about the fade route in the endzone. Any coach would see that T. Henry is one of the weaker secondary for Katy, man to man on 3rd down you go for the score. Fail, kick the field goal- but you must score to prevent a COMEBACK! Face it, the "golden" qb threw a bad pass, and Henry was beat, better pass, then Katy is the one turning in their equiipment.
2-CyF didn't use a 3 man rush, our OL got beat. They quit making their calls, or the Katy RB didn't pick up the backer on the stunt. When the OL made adjustments, Dalton had time to throw (note that he had plenty of time to over throw Fuda 3 previous times) Also, he was in double coverage- the OLB walked out over top, and the boundary corner fell back. We saw this all night and finally made an adjustment.
3-why does the secondary need a time out when they "suddenly" become confused in the last moments of the game. They did their assignments the whole time? Come up with a better excuse than busted coverage to a flat curl scenario.
4- You are not objective, and don't know much about the teams in question, i doubt seriously that you know even more about other teams still remaining. Believe it or not, true insight into football does NOT come from a message board online- you have to actually watch video for hours on end, your armchair "expertise" is making me dizzy.

[Drake]

[QUOTE=StrakeDrake]I haven't even read all the reply's here yet, but... That "overrated" comment just meant that I had over-estimated Katy... From the stats and talk, I thought Katy might be the next 2003 North Shore or something.

"Overrated" and "over-estimated" are two different things. You should choose your words more carefully.Bayou... Reading all your post, I'm sorry you have a low opinion of me. Like me trying to analyze the Katy Tigers, I understand you can only go by the information you have. I realize in this setting (message boards), I'm too honest and too dumb to avoid pissing someone off...

The two terms above are different, but going by what I've read here in the previous months (from astute Katy followers in the know) and then seeing the game yesterday, I have to think they both apply...

Do you believe this is the best Katy team ever? Thats what many were saying... Perhaps it is, I just didn't see it myself... I guess I could be politically correct and tell you what you want to hear... But what fun is that?

Yesterday might be the best thing that could have happened to Katy. They won't be coming from behind if they get down by 18 to any of the teams left. Perhaps throwing a dud now was better than doing it next week, huh?

If they truly are "AS ADVERTISED" they'll probably win it all, but I don't think me taking exception to the hype is out of line at this point. Do you?

[baldtiger15]

Running up the score to preserve rankings? It's called working on technique and perfecting your craft. Its getting your team ready to be hopefully playing in December.

So you can't get your team ready to play in December when you are already up by 40? working on technique? perfecting your craft? Son, that's what a week of practice and preparation is for. All I'm saying is that this is serious business, but still HS football. Play the #2's, and god forbid a few backup seniors when you're up in the regular season, so that when it is December your starters are still sharp enough to go, and backups aren't left in the cold. Shutting out an unbeaten team 52-0 either means that your starting defense is still on the field, or that your backups are just as good as the studs that started the game. This sir, lacks character- and is not what HS football is about.

[CyFallsMom]

One more comment about the band thing and I am done. What he was doing, in the end, is no worse than when the Katy fans were standing up and yelling at the end of the game when we were on offense, along with the band playing. Either way, it can mess up the signals and cause confusion. Katy is VERY loud as a group and when we went to the line, it was deafening on our side so I'm sure it really was for the guys on the field. There is no difference there between what our band director was doing and what the Katy fans were doing if you ask me. Also, if that was true about someone calling one of our players the N word - shame on them just as there should be shame on anyone on our side who said anything that wasn't necessary. I think there were bad seeds on both sides but that should not diminish this great game at all. They make those who are there to support the team positively look bad too.

Anyone know any truth about the rumors that we will be playing Katy in the pre-season starting next year? I would love that.

[BayouBoy34]

[QUOTE=BayouBoy34]Bayou... Reading all your post, I'm sorry you have a low opinion of me. Like me trying to analyze the Katy Tigers, I understand you can only go by the information you have. I realize in this setting (message boards), I'm too honest and too dumb to avoid pissing someone off...

The two terms above are different, but going by what I've read here in the previous months (from astute Katy followers in the know) and then seeing the game yesterday, I have to think they both apply...

Do you believe this is the best Katy team ever? Thats what many were saying... Perhaps it is, I just didn't see it myself... I guess I could be politically correct and tell you what you want to hear... But what fun is that?

Yesterday might be the best thing that could have happened to Katy. They won't be coming from behind if they get down by 18 to any of the teams left. Perhaps throwing a dud now was better than doing it next week, huh?

If they truly are "AS ADVERTISED" they'll probably win it all, but I don't think me taking exception to the hype is out of line at this point. Do you?

Strake -you started this thread with the overrated comment then tried to backtrack with a comment that "you" had overestimated them. I never try to pick which is the best Katy team ever - it is pointless. As I have said on this board before, making statements about which team is better without playing a game means nothing. I agree that the CF game may end up being the best thing to happen to Katy. I don't believe it was a dud. They matched up well against us, better than most teams this year and gave us a licking for over 3 quarters. Who knows how SV will match up against us. We won't know until next week. I never pay attention to those that ADVERTIZE Katy's abilities - it is just hype. I was worried about this game as much as last year's Clear Lake game and my worries were justified. Anyone that makes the regional finals is a good team and I would have said the same for Strake if they had beaten CF and Laporte.

[Down n' Out]

Two really fantastic schools. Great talented football teams.

Katy & CyFalls. Awesome Game.

Thanks for the great game today. CyFalls is really really good.

Congrats on your season this year. I know CyFalls will be in the playoffs again next year. :)
I would like to add to this as a Katy fan...Cy-Falls Drill Team got a deserved standing ovation from the Katy fans. That was one of the best performances that I've seen at a football game.

[Drake]

baldtiger15 wrote:

Not only is your play by play analysis poor and innacurate, but it stands to reason that if you give Cy Falls more credit for Katy's comeback than Katy, Then I can openly change my humble statements and say that I give Katy more credit than Cy Falls for allowing them to be ahead by 18 in the final moments of the game. We know this is not true. Could you be anymore fallacious? Called it as I saw it, therefore, its not fallacious (not trying to mislead) Allow me to list your errors for everyone else's sake.

1- stop whining about the fade route in the endzone. Any coach would see that T. Henry is one of the weaker secondary for Katy, man to man on 3rd down you go for the score. Fail, kick the field goal- but you must score to prevent a COMEBACK! I just think you MINIMALIZE your chances of a turnover in that situation... Fade routes are tough for pros, much less high school tandems... From my neophytic perspective, you eliminate as many chances for a turnover there as you can. An underthrown fade route is a turnover waiting to happen... If you thought it was a good call then I'll cede to your "expertise" Face it, the "golden" qb threw a bad pass, and Henry was beat, better pass, then Katy is the one turning in their equiipment.

2-CyF didn't use a 3 man rush, our OL got beat. They quit making their calls, or the Katy RB didn't pick up the backer on the stunt. When the OL made adjustments, Dalton had time to throw (note that he had plenty of time to over throw Fuda 3 previous times) Also, he was in double coverage- the OLB walked out over top, and the boundary corner fell back. We saw this all night and finally made an adjustment. Scoring from your own 30 on a pass play in the flats to the only receiver that has hurt you all game is a blown coverage or assignment unless its Reggie Bush catching the pass. My contention was it was one of many flukish occurences in the 4th quarter

3-why does the secondary need a time out when they "suddenly" become confused in the last moments of the game. They did their assignments the whole time? Come up with a better excuse than busted coverage to a flat curl scenario. What I saw on the play (last touchdown) is a confused secondary not knowing who had who. The left corner and safety were out of position AND talking when the play was snapped. The "wheel" pattern was the perfect play call at the time, especial considering the confusion. From my perspective in the endzone, I knew the game was over as soon as the play began because no one took the wheel receiver.

4- You are not objective, and don't know much about the teams in question, i doubt seriously that you know even more about other teams still remaining. Believe it or not, true insight into football does NOT come from a message board online- you have to actually watch video for hours on end, your armchair "expertise" is making me dizzy. I have no access to film. Just going by my memory, which is not too reliable. But if only EXPERTS with access to film were allowed to make game comments, it wouldn't be much of a message board, would it?

[Down n' Out]

By the way... I thought the referees were good today. Looked like they may have missed an pass interference by CyFalls, but all in all they didn't influence the outcome, which is a credit to them...
Thier spots were terrible...Everyone in my section were pretty upset at the officials...I guess Will Thompson was too.

[Drake]

Thier spots were terrible...Everyone in my section were pretty upset at the officials...I guess Will Thompson was too.Yeah, I saw some questionable spots both ways... Thought a few "critical" spots went Cy's way...

[baldtiger15]

Scoring from your own 30 on a pass play in the flats to the only receiver that has hurt you all game is a blown coverage or assignment unless its Reggie Bush catching the pass. My contention was it was one of many flukish occurences in the 4th quarter

Point of fact, CyFalls final score was on the exact same play call as what Fuda scored on later. It was not a flat route, but a 6yd stop route. Both secondary squads not making open field tackles in the fourth quarter. Wow, flukish! As for experts- you know as much about a subject as you choose to know. RWE said, "knowledge is power." You sir, are weak.

[Drake]

Scoring from your own 30 on a pass play in the flats to the only receiver that has hurt you all game is a blown coverage or assignment unless its Reggie Bush catching the pass. My contention was it was one of many flukish occurences in the 4th quarter

Point of fact, CyFalls final score was on the exact same play call as what Fuda scored on later. It was not a flat route, but a 6yd stop route. Both secondary squads not making open field tackles in the fourth quarter. Wow, flukish! As for experts- you know as much about a subject as you choose to know. RWE said, "knowledge is power." You sir, are weak.I guess you're right, I don't even know who RWE is... :(

[baldtiger15]

I guess you're right, I don't even know who RWE is... :(
Ralph Waldo Emerson, my friend. Please do not think for a moment that I dislike you, your team or what you say. It is people such as us. You and I sir that so passionately and fervently support this game which makes it what it is. I salute you Drake, and look forward to next year's meeting with Katy.

[rellufnalla]

Who was it that said Daulton couldn't pass on the move? That 4th down play might shake that assumption.

[Drake]

Ralph Waldo Emerson, my friend. Please do not think for a moment that I dislike you, your team or what you say. It is people such as us. You and I sir that so passionately and fervently support this game which makes it what it is. I salute you Drake, and look forward to next year's meeting with Katy.Ralph Waldo Emerson? The stereo guy?

BaldTiger - I need to change my screename. I'm just commenting because thats the game I saw yesterday, as a football fan. I am not representing my son's school here or anything. I realize any critisism of Katy coming from StrakeAnything will probably be misread as resulting from old wounds and maybe open some on the Katy side as well. Mine's not really. Just seems like if I write something that is offensive to someone, they include a reference to Strake Jesuit in their rebutt. I'm not getting that.

But I am getting more passionate about this high school football stuff. I like football anyway and I'm realizing the games and especially the playoff atmosphere at this level rivals any sport at any level. I was on a team that got knocked out at the regional finals and watching Katy's jubilation and Cyfalls heartbreak reminded me of the increasing pressure we felt as we advanced further and further in the playoffs.

As fans, we get to enjoy the ride and second-guess the coaches, but the pressure is a lot to put on teenage kids really. Watching the CyFalls kids fall to their knees and cry after the game upset me because I thought they (the players) did enough to win the game. In other words, they didn't succumb to it. I posted the original comment just after the game (I live within walking distance of Rice) and perhaps should have thought better of it. I still think Katy will have to play complete games from here on out to win it all.

Regardless, IT WAS a great game... I had a choice between it and and Texas-Colorado. The game at Rice was TEN times cheaper and TEN times better.... Tell that stereo guy even I can make a "sound" decision once in awhile...

[cyfallsbooster]

The momentum changed on the inception by Katy following a Cy Falls recovery of a fumble on the kickoff return. Not sure why Cy Falls coach made that call up by 18 points.
I understand the call. Big shocker with the fumble recovery that deep in katy's territory. strike while they are still in shock and maybe catch them off-guard. the only problem i saw with it was the execution. they ran the fade to the wide side of the field causing welch to flatten the pass out a little bit and thus not allowing freeman to use his vertical to go up and get it over the defender. i think the play call was right, just needed to be to the short side of the field.

[Redclad]

One more comment about the band thing and I am done. What he was doing, in the end, is no worse than when the Katy fans were standing up and yelling at the end of the game when we were on offense, along with the band playing. Either way, it can mess up the signals and cause confusion. Katy is VERY loud as a group and when we went to the line, it was deafening on our side so I'm sure it really was for the guys on the field. There is no difference there between what our band director was doing and what the Katy fans were doing if you ask me. Also, if that was true about someone calling one of our players the N word - shame on them just as there should be shame on anyone on our side who said anything that wasn't necessary. I think there were bad seeds on both sides but that should not diminish this great game at all. They make those who are there to support the team positively look bad too.

Anyone know any truth about the rumors that we will be playing Katy in the pre-season starting next year? I would love that.

I sure hope that there is not a suggestion that fans yelling too loud is somehow unsportsmanlike. This is freakin Texas HS football! I could not care less what the other band does. If our kids can't handle that then they shouldn't be here. As said before, I've been to games that had hundreds of people shaking propane tanks filled with ball bearings. Years ago I went to a Stephenville vs Brownwood game in Stephenville and the noise coming from the Home side was deafening and it was great because it was and is the soul
of Texas HS football.

Some like those little kid soccer leagues where they don't keep score. Good for you, I'll be leaving room for one more kid as mine will be taught that there are winners, losers and excuse makers. My hands hurt today from clapping all game long and banging on the aluminum seats when Falls had the ball at the end. Was my intention as a fan to be collectively loud enough as fans to disrupt them? Absolutely! Did it work? It sure didn't hurt. Katy fans are loud, and we're a bit proud of that fact. We stand on defensive third downs or other key plays and make as much noise as we can. If the rule is no noise makers, fine I can yell louder anyway.

We can continue to feminize our state and look for ways to make things more fair. Is it fair for one team to have more or louder fans? Probably not, moving the offending fans to the other side probably won't work because they will most likely keep yelling for their team. The best solution would be to cap attendence to that of the team with the fewer pre game ticket sales. But then what if the other teams fans still yell louder? Muzzels! That is surely the answer.

Oh and about the Katy kid using the N word. What about the elderly couple who was robbed and beaten by a group of Falls kids who ran off with their wheelchairs laughing? Must be true, I just posted it on an internet board.

[BayouBoy34]

I understand the call. Big shocker with the fumble recovery that deep in katy's territory. strike while they are still in shock and maybe catch them off-guard. the only problem i saw with it was the execution. they ran the fade to the wide side of the field causing welch to flatten the pass out a little bit and thus not allowing freeman to use his vertical to go up and get it over the defender. i think the play call was right, just needed to be to the short side of the field.

Possibly - I just think the fade route pass play is difficult to perform unless you have a height advantage over the defender. It was to the wide side of the field which made it more difficult. I agree to go for the jugular and widen the gap I just think the call could have been better - but glad it wasn't.

[cyfallsbooster]

I sure hope that there is not a suggestion that fans yelling too loud is somehow unsportsmanlike. This is freakin Texas HS football! I could not care less what the other band does. If our kids can't handle that then they shouldn't be here. As said before, I've been to games that had hundreds of people shaking propane tanks filled with ball bearings. Years ago I went to a Stephenville vs Brownwood game in Stephenville and the noise coming from the Home side was deafening and it was great because it was and is the soul
of Texas HS football.

Some like those little kid soccer leagues where they don't keep score. Good for you, I'll be leaving room for one more kid as mine will be taught that there are winners, losers and excuse makers. My hands hurt today from clapping all game long and banging on the aluminum seats when Falls had the ball at the end. Was my intention as a fan to be collectively loud enough as fans to disrupt them? Absolutely! Did it work? It sure didn't hurt. Katy fans are loud, and we're a bit proud of that fact. We stand on defensive third downs or other key plays and make as much noise as we can. If the rule is no noise makers, fine I can yell louder anyway.

We can continue to feminize our state and look for ways to make things more fair. Is it fair for one team to have more or louder fans? Probably not, moving the offending fans to the other side probably won't work because they will most likely keep yelling for their team. The best solution would be to cap attendence to that of the team with the fewer pre game ticket sales. But then what if the other teams fans still yell louder? Muzzels! That is surely the answer.

Oh and about the Katy kid using the N word. What about the elderly couple who was robbed and beaten by a group of Falls kids who ran off with their wheelchairs laughing? Must be true, I just posted it on an internet board.
i agree with your position. however, can we stay away from the inflamatory subjects and just stick to football? both sides? that includes us, cfmom.

i do not want to take away from what the kids and coaches did yesterday on the field, both sides. exceptional efforts put forth by the tigers and the eagles yesterday. i am going to try and get a copy of the game film so my son can see it when he gets home form college in a few weeks.

[KaTyTiGeRChIcK07]

Yesterday's game was not a matter of luck, or a matter of Katy taking a team lightly it was a matter of football. Cy-Falls went out there ready for Katy. Some teams beat themselves before they get out there to play a widely known and recognized team and Cy-Falls did not do that they went out there determined and ready like any team should in the playoffs. So what Cy-Falls isn't ranked they came in the underdogs and had an incredible season. Cy-Falls had a good game and gave the Katy fans and players a scare. When there was only 4:30 left on the clock, Katy defending and still in need of 2 touchdowns everyone got scared. The tigers pulled together and played from their hearts like they always do and came out on top. Yes Dalton had an off game but there's no saying that if he had a sharp game Cy-Falls wouldn't of been there to defend him then as well. This is the 2005 Playoff season not 2004, 2003,...etc. What happens this year is what matters. Everyone also keeps saying how Katy hasn't been challenged yet, well guess what if Katy wasn't as strong as they are this year don't you think that the playoffs themselves should be a challenge? Whether or not Cy-Falls is a ranked team they gave Katy a challenge, a challenge that was much needed to be more prepared for next week. Just because 26-5a is an awesome district does not necessarily mean that someone from 19-5a can't come in the underdog and comeout on top. We should leave the game to be played and let the best team win. It's going to be a GREAT game and I can't wait to be there and be a part of it. I just hope that some of you finally give Katy the respect they have EARNED this year and let Cy-Falls rest, they had a great season, played an awesome game, and unfortunate for them their season has come to an end. Let football stay on the field and let what's done be done.:)

[CyFallsMom]

i agree with your position. however, can we stay away from the inflamatory subjects and just stick to football? both sides? that includes us, cfmom.

i do not want to take away from what the kids and coaches did yesterday on the field, both sides. exceptional efforts put forth by the tigers and the eagles yesterday. i am going to try and get a copy of the game film so my son can see it when he gets home form college in a few weeks.

Agreed - I just get so defensive when I hear this stuff...sorry about that...99% of these rumors aren't even true to begin with - just a lot of emotions left over from the game. If this robbery did, in fact, take place, it needs to be reported to someone and not just posted on a board. There were tons of Katy kids on our side trying to stir some stuff up and we just ignored them...kids sometimes act really stupid. I heard nothing about the robbery though. They just need to cut the sides off so that fans can't cross to one anothers sides. Regarding the comments about fan noise vs. band noise (sorry have to say it one more time) there is no difference in how it affects the players - it's the same and, yes, this is Texas HS football -there will be noise.

Anyway, good luck to Katy next week - SV is going to be tough and, hopefully, they will be looking past Katy and towards SLC and Katy can catch them and run with it all the way to state!!!

[ktCarl]

I continue to have my questions as to how good this Katy team is. I really questioned their competition in district and especially thru the playoffs. Have they played anyone? Their win totals look good but the majority of the teams they have played have done nothing. My guess is that SV could wind up putting a licking on the Tigers.....I hope not because I would like to see SLC get a second chance.....I believe the results could be greatly different!!


Everyone said the same thing about Katy in 2003 and what was the final result?

[Redclad]

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Agreed - I just get so defensive when I hear this stuff...sorry about that...99% of these rumors aren't even true to begin with - just a lot of emotions left over from the game. If this robbery did, in fact, take place, it needs to be reported to someone and not just posted on a board. There were tons of Katy kids on our side trying to stir some stuff up and we just ignored them...kids sometimes act really stupid. I heard nothing about the robbery though. They just need to cut the sides off so that fans can't cross to one anothers sides. Regarding the comments about fan noise vs. band noise (sorry have to say it one more time) there is no difference in how it affects the players - it's the same and, yes, this is Texas HS football -there will be noise.

Anyway, good luck to Katy next week - SV is going to be tough and, hopefully, they will be looking past Katy and towards SLC and Katy can catch them and run with it all the way to state!!!

There was no robbery. I was only making a point, sorry I didn't make it more obvious. It just pains me to no end that anybody responds to an anonymous accusation on an internet board.

[KTFURB]

Being in Louisiana, I didn't get a chance to see the game, but I have read the newspapers' reports and have a feel for how it all went down. I read all the posts about how we (Katy) would blow out CF and then how we are over rated because we didn't. I think one thing most people are forgetting is that CyFalls was rated higher than Katy in the preseason area polls. A loss to Westfield bumped them down and I assume injuries took a toll. Subsequently they didn't show their preseason ranking form until late. Regardless of its record this team was playing at a high level, as was Katy, and obviously were up to the challenge. Their D-line controlled the running game and wreaked havoc on Dalton. No one else has been able to do that, not even The Woodlands, who remained a top 10 area team with 3 losses. CyFalls has traditionally had pretty good athleticism. Maybe not like North Shore, Westfield or Elsik and Hastings of the past, but good nonetheless. I suspect this CF team was much better than people gave them credit for and showed it yesterday. Kudos to the Katy kids for refusing to accept defeat after being outplayed for 3 quarters. Regardless of the outcome with SV they are truly champions. SV Fan...just keep thinking this is a weak area. Someone posted earlier that he felt Katy didn't give them the respect they deserved after beating us in '02. As a personal opinion, you have scoreboard and that's ALL that counts, but if we'd played 10 times I believe Katy would have won 7. I also believe that if the OC had continued to run the ball on the final drive instead of trying for the homerun 3 times Katy would have won that game. SV had no answer for the rushing attack at that point in the game and Katy was moving the ball at will. Also the deep pass was a weakness in the Katy offense that year. Jonathon Assad, the QB, threw a beautiful ball, but was extemely inaccurate on the deep pass. We'll never know what Coach Massey was thinking. But that's all history and has no relevence to this weeks game. I'll be making the trip from Slidell to watch. Somebody buy me a ticket so I won't have to stand in line!

[Oldman123]

Oh and about the Katy kid using the N word. What about the elderly couple who was robbed and beaten by a group of Falls kids who ran off with their wheelchairs laughing? Must be true, I just posted it on an internet board.

Very common, no one uses the "N" word as a derogritory word thats just how kids talk.

[Fleeman93]

Couple of points about the game:

1. Congratulations Falls you played a hell of a game and deserved to be there. I had the chance to see your team play a total of 4 times this year. The first two games I saw a team that just wasn't that good. The last two times I saw a team that had improved in ways that were very impressive. Katy was in your shoes several years ago and I see a program in Falls that is on the rise and will be around for years to come. Congratulations!

2. The only problem I had with sportsmanship was with a FEW Falls players that turned to the Katy sideline after a FEW plays and celebrated. On the other hand, #14 for Falls made a hell of a catch and run late in the third, got up turned toward the Falls sideline and fans and celebrated. I have absolutely no problem with that and I actually admired the player for it. I have no idea what individual players or groups said, but if a Katy player did use the N word toward a Falls player then he should be disciplined and possibly benched. No place for that in HS football.

3. The refs called a pretty good game all in all but missed two critical spots that help sustain some Falls drives (I didn't notice if they missed any spots for Katy, but that is not to say they didn't). The first bad spot was in the second quarter when a Falls player stretched the ball out while falling and the ball landed a good yard and a half short of the 40, but the ref spotted the ball on the 40 (coach Joseph made a point to explain to the ref that he made a bad spot). The second bad spot came in the 4th quarter when Falls made a play that was stopped with the ball on their own 48 (I think). The ref on the Falls sideline was behind the play and ran in to spot the ball just short of the 50. The ref on the Katy sideline that was standing exactly where the play ended spotted the ball on the 48. The only other problem that I had with the refs was when Falls had an illegal procedure called on them, but the ref said they called a timeout. Maybe they did call a timeout but I didn't see one single ref signal for it prior to the penalty (I actually never saw a ref signal at all).

4. Congratulations to Falls! You had a great season and I am sure that will be a building block in becoming a solid program in the years to come. Thank you for testing this Katy team that had not been tested to this point. I truly believe that your play will make this team much, much better. Once again, congratulations on a terrific season! I look forward to following you next year.

5. StrakeDrake you are a biased jesuit idiot. I really don't care for your opinions or thoughts but you certainly have the right to voice them. For you to say that you don't understand why people make points about jesuit when it is your own unbiased opinions is just idiotic. You are biased and it has everything to do with the fact that you support a coward of a program that doesn't belong in 5A football. The funny thing to me is that had your coward of program played Katy this year then it might have been enough to make your team that much better and enough to beat Falls in the second round. I respect the jesuit players as HS football players, but as a program you people don't belong.

6. Congratulations on a great season Falls. I didn't give your team the respect it truly deserved and I don't feel like I can stress how much I respect your program.

[cyfallsbooster]

... The only other problem that I had with the refs was when Falls had an illegal procedure called on them, but the ref said they called a timeout. Maybe they did call a timeout but I didn't see one single ref signal for it prior to the penalty (I actually never saw a ref signal at all).
The coaches called the timeout from the sideline and the lines judged blew the whistle. it seemed to be a "bang-bang" play.

as for the spots, i guess i was too excited to notice. i knew some were questionable but i could not refute them from what i saw. i am sure there were some missed spots. usually happens. we would all like to see it not happen in the playoffs, though.

pretty good bumping going on in the secondary on both sides yesterday. they were going at each other all day. some non-calls were questionable both ways, but i liked the refs letting them go at it (as long as it did not get out of hand).

[Fleeman93]

Thanks for clearing that up Booster. I just didn't see a visual signal so I didn't know. I know that coach J was upset about it as well.

[Drake]

5. StrakeDrake you are a biased jesuit idiot. I really don't care for your opinions or thoughts but you certainly have the right to voice them. For you to say that you don't understand why people make points about jesuit when it is your own unbiased opinions is just idiotic. You are biased and it has everything to do with the fact that you support a coward of a program that doesn't belong in 5A football. The funny thing to me is that had your coward of program played Katy this year then it might have been enough to make your team that much better and enough to beat Falls in the second round. I respect the jesuit players as HS football players, but as a program you people don't belong.Flea... I may be a biased idiot but I am NOT a Jesuit. My son attends the school because we liked the academic and cultural environment the school offered and he was lucky enough to get in. He's only been at the school for less than a year and I'm not very involved there at all. So you're wrong about that.

I am biased against the Katy program because of verbal assaults against the Strake Jesuit school that have, from what I've seen, been mostly coming from Katy and apparently have been going on since SJ was admitted to 19-5A. This post from you that I'm responding to is a good example. For your information, knowing what I know I'd come down against Katy's behaviour whether I supported SJ or not.

I am also turned off by the arrogance. There was a thread on the Katy board asking for game predictions. In 3 pages of posts not ONE person had it closer than a 30 point win for Katy. When I predicted 48-26 for Katy on this board you castigated me like I had sold my soul. You guaranteed that CyFalls couldn't put up more than 13. (btw, you owe me on that one)

I think it's very telling that you used the words "you people" in your rant. You obviously think you're better than, um, I don't even know. Why have you put Strake supporters in a different category of people? What is that suppose to mean?

Also, I've seen several posts on this board from Katy fans supporters saying "lets show'em how a real band plays, or real fans cheer, or let's show'em this or that", or "keep your head up, we were where you are a few years ago." Your collective arrogance astonishes me. Whether its true or not, why are you so convinced everyone wants to be like you?

From all that I've seen, I'm not a Katy fan. I know you don't care or you wouldn't represent YOUR school the way you do. But I really did try to analyze the game objectively and laid out why I thought Katy, at least yesterday, looked more like a choo choo and not like the locomotive so many others have convinced themselves that they are. And NONE of what I said about the game had anything to do with Strake Jesuit or it's team. Only Katy posters have pulled that into the thread.

[TigerV1]

And NONE of what I said about the game had anything to do with Strake Jesuit or it's team. Only Katy posters have pulled that into the thread.

You're right, you didn't directly pull the whole Katy vs Strake into the thread, but since you are going to be SO freakin legalistic I decided I would give it a shot.

No you didn't directly pull the Strake vs Katy into this thread, but your messages and views certainly conveyed that. While you never came out and said Katy sucks and Strake is much better I can read between the lines just as well as you.

I for one remember you trying to get all people to understand your point of view and see things on a broader scale rather than just seeing it with tunnel vision. And yet you come on here and post messages as narrow minded as those you have fought against.

No, you aren't this peace making person you claim to be. You are as small minded, tunnel visioned, and hypocritical as all the Katy posters you have been on your "Crusade" against. Take your agenda elsewhere.

[Fleeman93]

Flea... I may be a biased idiot but I am NOT a Jesuit. My son attends the school because we liked the academic and cultural environment the school offered and he was lucky enough to get in. He's only been at the school for less than a year and I'm not very involved there at all. So you're wrong about that.

You are not a jesuit STRAKEdrake? I'm sorry. I guess I missed something.

I am biased against the Katy program because of verbal assaults against the Strake Jesuit school that have, from what I've seen, been mostly coming from Katy and apparently have been going on since SJ was admitted to 19-5A. This post from you that I'm responding to is a good example. For your information, knowing what I know I'd come down against Katy's behaviour whether I supported SJ or not.

I have explained why I don't like your program in a public football league. That is why I verbally assault the jesuits. They just don't belong. If you were admitted to another district then I am sure you would be hearing the same things from them if it were in their faces. Read the boards and you will see that Katy isn't one of the top tier programs that has a lot of pride. I hope, by different rules and regulations that only apply to private schools, the jesuits never become good enough to understand that.

I am also turned off by the arrogance. There was a thread on the Katy board asking for game predictions. In 3 pages of posts not ONE person had it closer than a 30 point win for Katy. When I predicted 48-26 for Katy on this board you castigated me like I had sold my soul. You guaranteed that CyFalls couldn't put up more than 13. (btw, you owe me on that one)

Again, go and read some SLC or SV threads and you will see the same "arrogance". Katy is proud of what they have as they should be. I don't think Katy fans picked it closer than 30 because they didn't think it would be in their opinion. Cy Falls played a hell of game and made Katy look average yesterday, but average is something Katy certainly isn't. I actually thought about taking that bet with you, but I really thought Katy would be up big and would give up some trash points. I am glad I didn't take the bet. I would have been very wrong.


I think it's very telling that you used the words "you people" in your rant. You obviously think you're better than, um, I don't even know. Why have you put Strake supporters in a different category of people? What is that suppose to mean?

I'm no better than anyone. "You people" is directed at the jesuit program and anyone that supports them. "You people" are not wanted and should go back to where you came from (in my opinion). I have put "you people" in a group that supports a program that doesn't belong in public school football.

Also, I've seen several posts on this board from Katy fans supporters saying "lets show'em how a real band plays, or real fans cheer, or let's show'em this or that", or "keep your head up, we were where you are a few years ago." Your collective arrogance astonishes me. Whether its true or not, why are you so convinced everyone wants to be like you?

Katy has a lot of tradition and pride in what they have built over a long period of time. I bet you can't find one person in that entire stadium that didn't think the Katy band was anything less than amazing in that game yesterday. Watch enough games and you will understand the fan perspective. The biggest reason Katy fans had a problem with jesuit stadium is that they support their team and bring a big crowd. As I said, I hope the jesuits aren't around long enough to come to understand this, but I'm sure you will. Well Drake, if you are talking about a successful and storied football program that continually competes in semi final games and state games then I bet you could find a lot of fans around the state that wishes they had what Katy has built. Again, I hope it isn't something the jesuits have the chance to experience, but it doesn't come overnight.

From all that I've seen, I'm not a Katy fan. I know you don't care or you wouldn't represent YOUR school the way you do. But I really did try to analyze the game objectively and laid out why I thought Katy, at least yesterday, looked more like a choo choo and not like the locomotive so many others have convinced themselves that they are. And NONE of what I said about the game had anything to do with Strake Jesuit or it's team. Only Katy posters have pulled that into the thread.

Your opinion of the game is fair enough, but if you think this Katy team is overrated then you need to take off your jesuit colored glasses and take another look. This Katy team is very very good and just happened to run into a very solid Falls team that matched up well against Katy. Your choo choo comment just shows what an idiot you really are Drake. You say none of what you said had to do with the jesuits or their team but then again you have a big problem with Katy. Of course your opinion is going to be skewed.



I guess the biggest thing that I can offer you out of all of this is that if you and the jesuits are good enough to develope what a Katy or Smithson Valley or Southlake or Lufkin has then you will be right where a lot of the Katy fans are now. If you don't think the tradition and pride affect the way you think when you are a fan of one of these programs then you will just never understand.

[TIGER07]

Gee, I come on here and hear Katy fans talking trash about our team...big surprise there! First our boys have no class and then it was only close because the mighty Katy Tiogers just didn't take us seriously. I HOPE all your real fans are embarrassed by some of your posters. Our players have heard nothing but how badly Katy was going to beat them, how they barely deserved to even be on the field with them and how maybe some day they would be worthy of competing against the great Katy juggernaut. You act like we've never been to a layoff game before. Then they go out there and play with emotion and take it to Katy for most of the game and you expect none of them to get emotional during the game? I saw plenty of Katy players making some bad, "frustration" plays and talking trash and pushing heads in the ground after the play, etc. It happens, it' spart of the game and both teams did it. To come on here and try and say that Falls didn't deserve a win after the way they played is just idiotic. Maybe you are living in ther 50's and putting on your letter sweater for the game but your players aren't. I just thought it was an idiotic thing to even say.

As for the game, both teams left their hearts out on the field...it's that simple. Falls did a great job and had the chance to put the game away after that strange trick play that backfired. You could see it on the Katy sideline and the Falls players saw it too. But then Katy made a good play for the INT and took it down and scored and got the momentum back. That's the key play and a score there by us and it's ballgame. Didn't happen although I can't understand how anyone can even stretch to call that a bad play call. Every lay that doesn't work is a bad call...too bad we don't know what's going to happen before we run them.

I think what the game boiled down to was that Falls had some matchup problems with our DBs vs your WRs. The coaches knew that ahead of time but to their credit the players did well and held their own for most of the game. They just couldn't hold Katy's WR for the whole game and Katy was able to take advantage of that mismatch when the game was on the line. Congratulations on that but no one with even the smallest amount of sense or football knowledge can say that Katy took Falls for granted. We kicked your butt for most of the game, we just couldn't put it away.

And that game today is exactly why I think Texas high school football is the best sport around. Good luck next week although I must admit I will find it hard to root for you now after reading this embarrassment of a thread.


Not to get into a fight of whom took whom lightly.. If you read all the messages you would have seen sveral if not more Katy fans saying that Katy DID NOT TAKE FALLS LIGHLTY. If you choose not to represent Region 3 (Katy)in the rest of the playoffs then so be it. I f you dont then you are just as wrong as the Katy fans who stated Falls almost won because Katy took them lightly. Jost a little note to make you think.

I for one thought that Falls did an outstanding job yesterday, they played very hard and tough. Congrats on a great season and an even greater playoff season.

[iLUVktFootBaLL]

Wow that was the most intense game I have seen since State game 03! It was also the most nerve-wrecking!!! I just wanted to say props to Cyfalls for a GREAT game!! I am glad that Katy won and I definitely think it was a miracle...but at the same time my heart goes out to all the cyfalls players and fans because Katy went through the very same loss last year! It's an aweful feeling and although I had already been crying the whole 4th quarter including after the final touchdown when they were tears of joy, as i walked up the tunnel and saw those boys' faces it was an aweful feeling! I cried even harder! So good job guys and hopefully we will see you again next year!! Thanks for all your support also!! **To an CyFalls Drill Teamers out there: Ya'll were AMAZING!!! I am a member of the Katy Drill Team and I LOVED your routine!! good luck this year!! :D

[Orangebred]

Strake...no offense but I'm kinda wishing you were a coach in 17-5A. I think we'd love to play against you. More often than not, when fans post on message boards criticizing coaches they are showing their own ignorance. In my opinion this is definitely one of those cases.

Katy did what they had to do when the game was on the line and they won. That's called football and I give them all the credit for that. I wholeheartedly agree that the INT after the fumble was the turning point of the game...who wouldn't? However to say that it was the worst play call in playoff history is just ridiculous and showing.

That was the VERY definition of a the right time to go for the throat. In any game, when there is a turnover you want to strike right away of possible. In this game it was even MORE the right time. And it was a good play call. SOmeone said it was bad because we threw to Freeman and he isn't as tall as the defender. We threw it to Anthony Price who was much taller than the defender and has a great vertical leap. There is a picture of the interception on a webpage mentioned on another link and you can see that Anthony outjumped the defender by a longshot. The ball was just underthrown. Great call, bad execution.

That happens. If we make that TD I don't think many on here wouldn't agree that the game is over. Instead they make the play and then score a couple of plays later and suddenly it's a 14 point swing and a whole new ballgame. But in my mind, nothing wrong with the call at all.

[Drake]

Strake...no offense but I'm kinda wishing you were a coach in 17-5A. I think we'd love to play against you. More often than not, when fans post on message boards criticizing coaches they are showing their own ignorance. In my opinion this is definitely one of those cases.

Katy did what they had to do when the game was on the line and they won. That's called football and I give them all the credit for that. I wholeheartedly agree that the INT after the fumble was the turning point of the game...who wouldn't? However to say that it was the worst play call in playoff history is just ridiculous and showing.

That was the VERY definition of a the right time to go for the throat. In any game, when there is a turnover you want to strike right away of possible. In this game it was even MORE the right time. And it was a good play call. SOmeone said it was bad because we threw to Freeman and he isn't as tall as the defender. We threw it to Anthony Price who was much taller than the defender and has a great vertical leap. There is a picture of the interception on a webpage mentioned on another link and you can see that Anthony outjumped the defender by a longshot. The ball was just underthrown. Great call, bad execution.

That happens. If we make that TD I don't think many on here wouldn't agree that the game is over. Instead they make the play and then score a couple of plays later and suddenly it's a 14 point swing and a whole new ballgame. But in my mind, nothing wrong with the call at all.I'm certainly no coach and hindsight is 20/20. What I remember about the play is it was third and goal from the TWO. The quarterback had just ran a keeper through the left side for 5 yards against Katy's red zone defense to get it to the two. CyFalls was gaining 3-5 yards a play running to that point. Certainly if the fade had been perfectly executed it works and breaks Katy's back, but so does a rushing TD, a field goal, or even giving the ball back to Katy at the two on downs. I believe Katy's was already down for the count and that interception was proverbial bell that saved them. From a layman's perspective, you don't take ANY risk for an interception there... Apparently you are a coach, I'll cede the point because of your expertise and/or my ignorance.

[DaMan]

It was 2nd and Goal from the 7 and the QB had just ran for a 1 or 2 yard gain.
How did Strake do this weekend in their game?

[Drake]

It was 2nd and Goal from the 7 and the QB had just ran for a 1 or 2 yard gain.
How did Strake do this weekend in their game?Seriously? I may be confused. Will have to see the evidence (game film) before I believe it, especially since the guy saying it didn't even know Strake Jesuit had already been eliminated from the playoffs...

[DaMan]

Oh, I knew. LOLLOLLOL. Man you are a sharp one.

[ftballin11]

Nice cover-up DaMan;) and I thought it was on the 7 or 8 yard line, but I could be wrong.

[CyFallsMom]

Question for Katy - I know Seven Lakes opened this year and they won't go varsity for one more year (if it's the same way they do it in Cy Fair)...How will that affect your enrollment when the dust settles - you have a lot of students there and that's amazing with the number of other schools in the district. I know when Cy Woods opens, we will drop in enrollment and have to probably rebuild a little...it happened 4 years ago when Cy Ridge opened. I was just wondering about that. It doesn't seem that Morton Ranch opening has affected KHS much, if at all. Is Seven Lakes north or south of I-10?

[AZTiger]

Question for Katy - I know Seven Lakes opened this year and they won't go varsity for one more year (if it's the same way they do it in Cy Fair)...How will that affect your enrollment when the dust settles - you have a lot of students there and that's amazing with the number of other schools in the district. I know when Cy Woods opens, we will drop in enrollment and have to probably rebuild a little...it happened 4 years ago when Cy Ridge opened. I was just wondering about that. It doesn't seem that Morton Ranch opening has affected KHS much, if at all. Is Seven Lakes north or south of I-10?

Seven Lakes is south, they took more kids from Cinco than us. Morton will hurt us a little, but I've stated this many times that Katy will not suffer like many think they will. The winning tradition and the pieces needed for that to continue are in place. As crazy as it sounds, people sell their homes in Katy to move into the KHS zone sometimes!

[ftballin11]

SL is south of I-10.. and MR took alot of students, more than SL will, could be wrong though. Katy does have a big enrollment still, but it keeps getting taken from every few years.

[rwilleby]

Seven Lakes is south, they took more kids from Cinco than us. Morton will hurt us a little, but I've stated this many times that Katy will not suffer like many think they will. The winning tradition and the pieces needed for that to continue are in place. As crazy as it sounds, people sell their homes in Katy to move into the KHS zone sometimes!
If my son wasn't grandfathered in, I would have done that very thing...

[hornfan713]

I missed the game as I was watching the dismantling of the colorado buffaloes, but all I can say to the Katy fans (as a Jesuit fan) is: I'm glad 19-5A showed up and pulled that off.

Just beat the heck out of Smithson Valley.

[Orangebred]

Seriously? I may be confused. Will have to see the evidence (game film) before I believe it, especially since the guy saying it didn't even know Strake Jesuit had already been eliminated from the playoffs...

It was 2nd and goal from the 7. Check out the photo here: /www.enfocusmm.com/Sports%20Photos/2005/Football%20Cy%20Falls%20Katy/DSC_0730p.jpg

We had just run the ball and picked up about 1-2 yards. If we run it again up the middle we likely have 3rd and 5 or 6 and are forced to throw the ball when they know it. We throw a fade on 2nd down to a guy who can out jump the DB by a mile (again, note picture). 9 times out of 10 if it's not caught it's an incompletion. If it scores it's game over, if it's incomplete we have 3rd and goal and are not much worse off than if we ran on 2nd.

Personally, I thought it was a great call. It just didn't work and the worse possible thing happened. If we ran it and fumbled people would be complaining about us running the ball into the teeth of their defense.

[ftballin11]

It was 2nd and goal from the 7. Check out the photo here: /www.enfocusmm.com/Sports%20Photos/2005/Football%20Cy%20Falls%20Katy/DSC_0730p.jpg

We had just run the ball and picked up about 1-2 yards. If we run it again up the middle we likely have 3rd and 5 or 6 and are forced to throw the ball when they know it. We throw a fade on 2nd down to a guy who can out jump the DB by a mile (again, note picture). 9 times out of 10 if it's not caught it's an incompletion. If it scores it's game over, if it's incomplete we have 3rd and goal and are not much worse off than if we ran on 2nd.

Personally, I thought it was a great call. It just didn't work and the worse possible thing happened. If we ran it and fumbled people would be complaining about us running the ball into the teeth of their defense.


:eek: Sounds like the final play of the OT Katy vs. Clear Lake when Katy called a pass rather than a run with James Aston.. similar situations.

[TXfbfan]

:eek: Sounds like the final play of the OT Katy vs. Clear Lake when Katy called a pass rather than a run with James Aston.. similar situations.

please dont mention that again, ive cried myself too sleep many of times thinking about that

[cyfallsbooster]

It was 2nd and goal from the 7. Check out the photo here: /www.enfocusmm.com/Sports%20Photos/2005/Football%20Cy%20Falls%20Katy/DSC_0730p.jpg

We had just run the ball and picked up about 1-2 yards. If we run it again up the middle we likely have 3rd and 5 or 6 and are forced to throw the ball when they know it. We throw a fade on 2nd down to a guy who can out jump the DB by a mile (again, note picture). 9 times out of 10 if it's not caught it's an incompletion. If it scores it's game over, if it's incomplete we have 3rd and goal and are not much worse off than if we ran on 2nd.

Personally, I thought it was a great call. It just didn't work and the worse possible thing happened. If we ran it and fumbled people would be complaining about us running the ball into the teeth of their defense.
after seeing the picture, you were right, i was mistaken. it was price, not freeman. sorry about that, anthony!

[Drake]

It was 2nd and goal from the 7. Check out the photo here: /www.enfocusmm.com/Sports%20Photos/2005/Football%20Cy%20Falls%20Katy/DSC_0730p.jpg

We had just run the ball and picked up about 1-2 yards. If we run it again up the middle we likely have 3rd and 5 or 6 and are forced to throw the ball when they know it. We throw a fade on 2nd down to a guy who can out jump the DB by a mile (again, note picture). 9 times out of 10 if it's not caught it's an incompletion. If it scores it's game over, if it's incomplete we have 3rd and goal and are not much worse off than if we ran on 2nd.

Personally, I thought it was a great call. It just didn't work and the worse possible thing happened. If we ran it and fumbled people would be complaining about us running the ball into the teeth of their defense.Just got back from a friends house that saw the game with me. He said it was second and goal so I'm sure thats what it was. I still believe it was the wrong call in the situation. 3rd and goal from the 2 or 2nd and goal from the 7, with an 18 point lead? I can't see the call. That one play more than any other cost CyFalls the game. If you think it was a great call then we'll just have to agree to disagree. I'm not sure it matters who could jump higher anyway, but that picture you presented as evidence that CyFalls had a mismatch does not do so... (1) the defender has already come down and is on the ground making impossible to tell how high he jumped and (2) he has the ball in his hands meaning he was at least capable enough to make an interception, the LAST thing Cy needed at that point in the game...

[cyfallsbooster]

good play call. just needed a little more elvation on the ball. great play by katy defender turning around just in time for the pick. it happens. welch is young and will be back next year. he learned i am sure from the play. from what i have seen, he is a very quick study. this was what, his 5th game with the varsity? good things to come next year, i think!:D

there were a few other play calling situations that may not have seemed the thing to do at first, but once you analyze the full situation, you think, "yeah, that was the thing to do".

i can not knock anything the coaches did yesterday. they had the game plan to beat katy and had the boys well prepared for executing it. katy just showed why they have so many state trophies setting in their cases at school!

[CyFallsMom]

I don't know how many of you watch HSSL but Jack Freeman was player of the week - had some good footage and he gave all the credit to the O line and great blocking - nice young man. Also, most of the highlights were of Cy Falls's plays and then, because it airs at 6:00 on Saturday, they had to go back and add the winning play from Katy as an afterthought. I think that game threw everybody off!! Good CF Basketball highlights too:)

[katyrecsquad6]

a win is a win good game season over for cy falls- strake's season has been over i love to say it i told everyone bobby harris would make a big play mann i soogood at this so i pick katy to win state

[UT66]

Well CyFallsMom, what a great game. Trash talking is never appropriate whatever the age, especially from non-players. I predicted that this game would come down to a 4th quarter comeback by Katy to pull out the win in the last seconds. I was very impressed with the play of Falls. We had a very bad three quarters and Falls took advantage of the opportunities. Once again, I felt your coach GAVE Katy the opportunity to win by some very suspect play calls late in the game. I felt that even a field goal after the deep recovery of a fumble after the "quail play" (called stupid on Katy's part) would have iced the game. Another field goal attempt later in the game instead of pushing it would have also iced the game. I hate to see players leave it all on the field and get sidelined by the coaches but such is the game of football. We made our share of questionable shifts from what had been successful all year as well. You gave it everything and thats to be commended. It was close and the opportunity for Katy to have a gut-check and heart review will be beneficial in the next game. They know they can play poorly, get down and still have a chance to come back and win it. I am glad we had the chance to prove it to ourselves but didnt need it to be that steep a hill for my own heart. The heart of a champion is seldom tested but important to know. You should have a great year next year and hope we meet again for another great game. I dont think your downer was as long as ours but it had to hurt a lot more.

[CyFallsMom]

I look at it this way UT - if Katy wins state, then some of the "credit" can go to Cy Falls for helping them to put it all in perspective. We should have a hell of a season next year and I just cannot wait.

[Tut]

I look at it this way UT - if Katy wins state, then some of the "credit" can go to Cy Falls for helping them to put it all in perspective. We should have a hell of a season next year and I just cannot wait.
True, and folks would also hold this years team in higher regard. Katy already does!

[MRmaverick]

Question for Katy - I know Seven Lakes opened this year and they won't go varsity for one more year (if it's the same way they do it in Cy Fair)...How will that affect your enrollment when the dust settles - you have a lot of students there and that's amazing with the number of other schools in the district. I know when Cy Woods opens, we will drop in enrollment and have to probably rebuild a little...it happened 4 years ago when Cy Ridge opened. I was just wondering about that. It doesn't seem that Morton Ranch opening has affected KHS much, if at all. Is Seven Lakes north or south of I-10?

youll see the drop off a little next year(theyll still be good)and the next you will see a level playing field. It takes little while for the effect to happen.

[STJL41]

youll see the drop off a little next year(theyll still be good)and the next you will see a level playing field. It takes little while for the effect to happen.

Seven Lakes opening should have no bearing on Katy's enrollment. Given the location of SLHS (Far South of I-10, where Fry Rd. Ends) it should not take any students from Katy's zone.

As far as whether or not any of this will have an effect on the KHS football program, the answer is still no. There is no effect that needs to set in...what needs to happen for the playing field to be even for the rest of 19-5A is for KHS to get rid of it's staff. As far as the district in concerned, Katy will continue to have the most disciplined, best conditioned and overall best team in KISD until (a) A new program is built at one of the other schools, making it competitive with KHS or (b) the entire Katy Coaching staff dissappears all at once. As KISD stands right now, it's a long uphill battle to be competitive with the guys wearing red.

[cyfallsbooster]

Well CyFallsMom, what a great game. Trash talking is never appropriate whatever the age, especially from non-players. I predicted that this game would come down to a 4th quarter comeback by Katy to pull out the win in the last seconds. I was very impressed with the play of Falls. We had a very bad three quarters and Falls took advantage of the opportunities. Once again, I felt your coach GAVE Katy the opportunity to win by some very suspect play calls late in the game. I felt that even a field goal after the deep recovery of a fumble after the "quail play" (called stupid on Katy's part) would have iced the game. Another field goal attempt later in the game instead of pushing it would have also iced the game. I hate to see players leave it all on the field and get sidelined by the coaches but such is the game of football. We made our share of questionable shifts from what had been successful all year as well. You gave it everything and thats to be commended. It was close and the opportunity for Katy to have a gut-check and heart review will be beneficial in the next game. They know they can play poorly, get down and still have a chance to come back and win it. I am glad we had the chance to prove it to ourselves but didnt need it to be that steep a hill for my own heart. The heart of a champion is seldom tested but important to know. You should have a great year next year and hope we meet again for another great game. I dont think your downer was as long as ours but it had to hurt a lot more.
ut66........thanks for the kind words for the sake of the kids and coaches (for the most part) it was just that i got intrigued by your statement that you "predicted" the late come-from-behind win by katy. i went back and checked the katy/cy falls thread and i believe your "prediction" was falls coaches would spot katy a 10-14 point lead that falls would never recover from.:rolleyes: just funnin' with ya'! awesome program over there!

katy fan for the next 2 weeks.

[MRmaverick]

Seven Lakes opening should have no bearing on Katy's enrollment. Given the location of SLHS (Far South of I-10, where Fry Rd. Ends) it should not take any students from Katy's zone.

As far as whether or not any of this will have an effect on the KHS football program, the answer is still no. There is no effect that needs to set in...what needs to happen for the playing field to be even for the rest of 19-5A is for KHS to get rid of it's staff. As far as the district in concerned, Katy will continue to have the most disciplined, best conditioned and overall best team in KISD until (a) A new program is built at one of the other schools, making it competitive with KHS or (b) the entire Katy Coaching staff dissappears all at once. As KISD stands right now, it's a long uphill battle to be competitive with the guys wearing red.

agree katys coaching staff is great but morton ranch will surprise quite a few when they start playing

[baldtiger15]

agree katys coaching staff is great but morton ranch will surprise quite a few when they start playing

I contend that the first year or two will be a struggle (remember Cinco's start) in order to avoid such embarassing scores, which are not edifying to either team, They are going to be more cautious in how they introduce "new" varsity teams to 19-5A. I could see Morton being competitive occasionally the same way Cinco has had some great years. Keep this in mind though, Mayde Creek, since it has been built has never beaten Katy. Thus neither has Cinco. KT Taylor is the only KISD school to have ever unseated the Red Giant. I would like to see some more stiff competition within KISD. Bring it on Mavericks, Cougs and eventually Spartans. Creek is due for a great year...but first they need a little spring cleaning in the coach's office if you know what I mean.

[MRmaverick]

yea next year will be rough i think but the next year look for them to be pretty good. they have a very strong sophmore and freshman class