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lonny23
12-17-2008, 09:40 PM
I would be remiss to not mention for the 16th time ever a team has had 2 players in the Top 5 of a Heisman Trophy race:

Graham Harrell, 4th
Michael Crabtree, 5th

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/big12/0-5-150/Texas-Tech-makes-rare-Heisman-accomplishment.html

hunterbunter
12-18-2008, 12:32 AM
only the 16th time? wow

oldmojo94
12-18-2008, 04:41 AM
16 times........not really e feat anymore is it? now a school with 3:D..........

jtk1519
12-18-2008, 05:48 AM
Wow. 16 times out of 74 Heismans. Who knew 22% = "rare".

slorch
12-18-2008, 07:41 AM
I would be remiss to not mention for the 16th time ever a team has had 2 players in the Top 5 of a Heisman Trophy race:

Graham Harrell, 4th
Michael Crabtree, 5th

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/big12/0-5-150/Texas-Tech-makes-rare-Heisman-accomplishment.html

I don't care. Seriously.

I am extremely put out with the "gymnastics/ figure skating" effect in D1 college football and all of the individual player awards.

For me as a fan, it comes down to wins and losses. The politicking, campaigning, and complaining is definitely for others that want to feel relevant in the whole process.

Harrell and Crabtree were integral parts to Tech's fantastic year. They will go down in school history as two of the very best to ever wear the Scarlet and Black. that being said, it's a team game. It takes 22 starters plus special teams and depth to win games.

CKE
12-18-2008, 11:20 AM
:laugh moral victory denied

SLC
12-18-2008, 11:29 AM
32 players,16 times. Stop the freakin presses.:rolleyes:

HUM398
12-18-2008, 12:30 PM
I would be remiss to not mention for the 16th time ever a team has had 2 players in the Top 5 of a Heisman Trophy race:

Graham Harrell, 4th
Michael Crabtree, 5th

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/big12/0-5-150/Texas-Tech-makes-rare-Heisman-accomplishment.html

So rare that its happen 5 times since 2002....:rolleyes:

pied
12-19-2008, 12:36 PM
I don't care. Seriously.

I am extremely put out with the "gymnastics/ figure skating" effect in D1 college football and all of the individual player awards.

For me as a fan, it comes down to wins and losses. The politicking, campaigning, and complaining is definitely for others that want to feel relevant in the whole process.

Harrell and Crabtree were integral parts to Tech's fantastic year. They will go down in school history as two of the very best to ever wear the Scarlet and Black. that being said, it's a team game. It takes 22 starters plus special teams and depth to win games.

Funny how Tech fans are now upset at the way these things operate now that they have tasted it for the first time.

slorch
12-19-2008, 03:27 PM
Funny how Tech fans are now upset at the way these things operate now that they have tasted it for the first time.

actually UT fans calling out anyone else's peculiarities with their own recent behavior is what is downright funny.

"we want head-to-head to count!, we settled it on the field..."

"What about Lubbock, then?"

"We should have won that game, except we scored fewer points than Tech, and now Mack Brown, after not being able to sing the alma mater in the Jones, has to tell his boys the money just wasn't enough this year..I mean we didn't win all of our games...:o"

"Graham Harrell is the best QB in the Big Xii..."

"We have so many young receivers in the Big XII, but Colt did everything on his own...Harrell wouldn't have done crap without Crabtree..."


"Crabtree is a Sophomore...No other WR on Tech was more than a 3* recruit except Edward Britton, who was a RB his freshman year..."


"Tech's system protects Harrell. Y'all's OL holds all of the time. Even though Rylan Reed is an all-american, he was out to hurt Rak and hyperextended Rak's knee by holding him too much. it's all about stats. They're just lucky...Colt is a man. he had no RB or offensive line, either..."

"I sure am proud of Coach Leach being recognized as national Coach of the Year..."


Leach's an idiot. Even though y'all beat us, he should have voted UT ahead ahead of Tech in the Coach's Poll. he is so biased... He should be like Mack and campaign for the Rose Bowl in 2005 and then rail against the coach's poll in 2008. Mack Brown is so much more level headed...

Well it looks like Leach will be around for a while. he likes Lubbock quite a bit. He's had an awesome impact on the whole program and Lubbock in general. he pretty much has the keys to the city.


You mean TSO likes it there? We've been predicting he'd leave for 3 years now. We gotta be right someday, and then we'll scream out "I told you so!!!" Why would anyone stay in that terrible place. he's only still there because nobody else wants him. Did you say National Coach of the Year?

Like I said, Ut fan has been freaking funny in the last third of the season. Sure, they got our rightful Bowl Game in Tempe. Tech should have beaten OU if they wanted to gripe. Maybe some day the UT fans will mature enough to understand three way ties and how to act when the ball doesn't bounce its way.

jtk1519
12-19-2008, 07:17 PM
Maybe one day the tards will get smart enough to understand it was a three-way tie in name only. In reality, the tards were irrelevant.

pied
12-19-2008, 07:21 PM
actually UT fans calling out anyone else's peculiarities with their own recent behavior is what is downright funny.



Like I said, Ut fan has been freaking funny in the last third of the season. Sure, they got our rightful Bowl Game in Tempe. Tech should have beaten OU if they wanted to gripe. Maybe some day the UT fans will mature enough to understand three way ties and how to act when the ball doesn't bounce its way.

I'm not complaining. I wish things would have gone Texas' way, and think that Texas has as strong, if not stronger case than any, but it's the way the system is set up. Hope we can handle the Buckeyes in sunny Phoenix.

slorch
12-19-2008, 08:11 PM
Maybe one day the tards will get smart enough to understand it was a three-way tie in name only. In Dodds' Fairy Tales, the tards were irrelevant.

your reality...

slorch
12-19-2008, 08:12 PM
I'm not complaining. I wish things would have gone Texas' way, and think that Texas has as strong, if not stronger case than any, but it's the way the system is set up. Hope we can handle the Buckeyes in sunny Phoenix.

I hope the Horns hang half a hundy on the bucknuts...

















by halftime.:D

pied
12-19-2008, 08:14 PM
and I hope Tech does the same to Ole Miss.

and that Florida does the same to Stoops. 100-0 would be nice.

Go Gators!

slorch
12-19-2008, 08:19 PM
I do want all of the Big XII teams to win this year.

Usually i want UT to lose, but it's like the USC game in 2005... How the hell would I ever cheer for tOSU?:eek:

pied
12-19-2008, 08:23 PM
I never root for ou or a$m unless there is something in it for me. I have little love and have reason to dislike nearly every other Big XII school, although I find myself rooting for them most of the time.

svhorns
12-19-2008, 08:31 PM
Texas... stomps OSU in Tempe...

Texas Tech... reminds Jevan Sneed why he should have stayed in state...

Oklahoma State... wins a close one against Oregon

Oklahoma... sucks...

Missouri will run through Northwestern...

Nebraska.... donkey stomps Clemson

Kansas... sends minnesota back to the arctic tundra...

Aggy... hahahahahahahaha....

chunky79
12-19-2008, 08:39 PM
i think the feat here is that two heisman winners are playing against each other

Matthew 2000 Eagle
12-19-2008, 09:04 PM
i think the feat here is that two heisman winners are playing against each other

I was thinking the same thing! Does anybody know if that's ever happened before this year?

svhorns
12-19-2008, 09:08 PM
I was thinking the same thing! Does anybody know if that's ever happened before this year?

no clue... but The 2005 Texas Longhorns beat a team with 2 heisman winners in the same backfield... oh and they beat the greatest team ever known to man...

you just can't top that...

chunky79
12-19-2008, 09:10 PM
I was thinking the same thing! Does anybody know if that's ever happened before this year?

it's the second time it's ever happened. The first was in the 2005 Orange Bowl, when '04 winner Matt Leinart and Southern California beat '03 winner Jason White and Oklahoma for the national title.

Matthew 2000 Eagle
12-19-2008, 09:13 PM
no clue... but The 2005 Texas Longhorns beat a team with 2 heisman winners in the same backfield... oh and they beat the greatest team ever known to man...

you just can't top that...

This is true!

Matthew 2000 Eagle
12-19-2008, 09:15 PM
it's the second time it's ever happened. The first was in the 2005 Orange Bowl, when '04 winner Matt Leinart and Southern California beat '03 winner Jason White and Oklahoma for the national title.

Oh...I forgot all about that! I laughed until I cried as I watched USC beat the brakes off of that squad across the Red River.