Boys and Gents...

[SLC]

And with that...


The Cowboys win... Theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Cowboys win!

[rocketgrl94]

And with that...


The Cowboys win... Theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Cowboys win!

wow.:rolleyes:

[chunky79]

they still suck

[rocketgrl94]

and what happened to ladies in the title?!...DID U FORGET!?

[BDB]

and what happened to ladies in the title?!...DID U FORGET!?

when one posts, then she will be able to make an arguement.

[Slim-Rob]

and what happened to ladies in the title?!...DID U FORGET!?


um. Boys= Cowboys. Gents= Giants.


you fail.

[rocketgrl94]

um. Boys= Cowboys. Gents= Giants.


you fail.

no U fail!:mad:

[BDB]

no U fail!:mad:

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h91/caeley1/th_ORlmente.jpg

[svhorns]

daaaaaaaaaaaa boys!

[AE 8008]

score?

[svhorns]

score?

20-8 lazy;)

[AE 8008]

20-8 lazy;)

lol ya:D

studyin for finals...spend as little brainpower as possible!

[Slim-Rob]

no U fail!:mad:

ily :)

[chunky79]

1996.

[SLC]

and what happened to ladies in the title?!...DID U FORGET!?

DE DE DE....:p

[SLC]

And T-New kissed the star...:notworthy

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

wow.:rolleyes:

Nobody asked you $h!+breath Jesus!

And, why the hell are you speaking anyway?

[WestPlano006]

Tashard Choice is legit... that is all.

[Red Storm]

Cowboys defense was very impressive last night. Giants could not run the ball, Eli was pressured all night.

Romo was impressive in how he handled the situation before the game, during the game and especially after the game. I still think T.O. is a punk and I think he was lying through his teeth last night during that press conference. I guess we outside the locker room will never know and that is the way it should be.

If the Cowboys defense plays like this the next two weeks...they may be playing a while. Can they sustain this? That is the question and only time will tell. As a Giants fan, the Cowboys scare me more than anybody else in the NFC.

As for the Giants, getting Jacobs back will help. I am glad Buress is gone, but I am afraid they will miss him on the field. Eli better get ready for 8-9 man boxes because teams will load up to stop Jacobs and the running game.

[JMSFan]

Gaints = division champs (not FAIL)
Dallas = needs 2 more wins to even be a wildcard team (FAIL)

Dallas fans were worried to death that Brad Johnson might have to come in the game yesterday.
Witten still has more receptions in the game than T.O. , and T.O. gets booed from the fans during pre-game warmups. He drops an easy T.D. pass, then later, falls down short of a first down. Needed to be booed again.

Giants = 11-3
Dallas = the suck.

[4th and 1]

Cowboys defense was very impressive last night. Giants could not run the ball, Eli was pressured all night.

Romo was impressive in how he handled the situation before the game, during the game and especially after the game. I still think T.O. is a punk and I think he was lying through his teeth last night during that press conference. I guess we outside the locker room will never know and that is the way it should be.

If the Cowboys defense plays like this the next two weeks...they may be playing a while. Can they sustain this? That is the question and only time will tell. As a Giants fan, the Cowboys scare me more than anybody else in the NFC.

As for the Giants, getting Jacobs back will help. I am glad Buress is gone, but I am afraid they will miss him on the field. Eli better get ready for 8-9 man boxes because teams will load up to stop Jacobs and the running game.

Got to get Romo healthy and keep him that way. He got beat up pretty good last night.

[Dawg Fan]

giants= the suck

that is all

[Slim-Rob]

Gaints = division champs (not FAIL)
Dallas = needs 2 more wins to even be a wildcard team (FAIL)

Dallas fans were worried to death that Brad Johnson might have to come in the game yesterday.
Witten still has more receptions in the game than T.O. , and T.O. gets booed from the fans during pre-game warmups. He drops an easy T.D. pass, then later, falls down short of a first down. Needed to be booed again.

Giants = 11-3
Dallas = the suck.

Umm. Scoreboard. This seems awful familiar to last year...Dallas kicking everyone around then NY beating them in the P/Os...hmmm

[Red Storm]

Umm. Scoreboard. This seems awful familiar to last year...Dallas kicking everyone around then NY beating them in the P/Os...hmmm

Tap the brakes on the scoreboard...yesterday was not a playoff game.

Giants are already in the playoffs, Cowboys...not quite.

So, scoreboard some of that!;)

[Slim-Rob]

Tap the brakes on the scoreboard...yesterday was not a playoff game.

Giants are already in the playoffs, Cowboys...not quite.

So, scoreboard some of that!;)

And last year the Cowboys were already in the playoffs and the Giants...not quite.

So, look what happened with that! ;)

STFU, GTFO, and DIAF. TY

[JMSFan]

Tap the brakes on the scoreboard...yesterday was not a playoff game.

Giants are already in the playoffs, Cowboys...not quite.

So, scoreboard some of that!;)

But just like last year, the cowboy fans were talking much trash about how the Giants sucked.....until they took a beatdown in the playoffs. (refer to post #22)

[SLC]

Gaints = division champs (not FAIL)
Dallas = needs 2 more wins to even be a wildcard team (FAIL)

Dallas fans were worried to death that Brad Johnson might have to come in the game yesterday.
Witten still has more receptions in the game than T.O. , and T.O. gets booed from the fans during pre-game warmups. He drops an easy T.D. pass, then later, falls down short of a first down. Needed to be booed again.

Giants = 11-3
Dallas = the suck.

Actually the Cowboys dont have to win the remaining 2 games to make the playoffs.

[JMSFan]

Actually the Cowboys dont have to win the remaining 2 games to make the playoffs.


uh,yes they do. At least that is what every sports show has been saying.

[StrongDog]

Gaints = division champs (not FAIL)
Dallas = needs 2 more wins to even be a wildcard team (FAIL)

Dallas fans were worried to death that Brad Johnson might have to come in the game yesterday.
Witten still has more receptions in the game than T.O. , and T.O. gets booed from the fans during pre-game warmups. He drops an easy T.D. pass, then later, falls down short of a first down. Needed to be booed again.

Giants = 11-3
Dallas = the suck.

So if the Cowboys "suck" what's with Roger Staubach?
I know one thing that has not been sucking lately and that's the defense. The past 6 weeks or so they have picked it up. They look more aggressive and have been getting to the qb more than ever. If the D keeps playing well, they should always be close at the end.

[JMSFan]

So if the Cowboys "suck" what's with Roger Staubach?
I know one thing that has not been sucking lately and that's the defense. The past 6 weeks or so they have picked it up. They look more aggressive and have been getting to the qb more than ever. If the D keeps playing well, they should always be close at the end.

Roger Staubach is the bees knees. :D

[StrongDog]

Roger Staubach is the bees knees. :D

Oh yea, Cowboys still suck (IMO)

I like to think its Troy Aikman. But Staubach was before my time.

[JMSFan]

I like to think its Troy Aikman. But Staubach was before my time.

Yea, Aikman too. Roger Staubach was playing during my growing up years.

[StrongDog]

Yea, Aikman too. Roger Staubach was playing during my growing up years.

Wait are you a Cowboys fan or not?

[JMSFan]

Wait are you a Cowboys fan or not?

I'm not.
When I was a kid, my parents were BIG dallas fans. We had 3 channels on the t.v., and on Sunday, if I wanted to watch football, it had to be the Cowboys. So Im more of a Roger Staubach fan I guess.

[StrongDog]

I'm not.
When I was a kid, my parents were BIG dallas fans. We had 3 channels on the t.v., and on Sunday, if I wanted to watch football, it had to be the Cowboys. So Im more of a Roger Staubach fan I guess.

How can you be a Staubach fan and not root for Cowboys a little bit? I grew up a Cowboys/Aikman/Smith/Irvin fan. Im still a huge fan of the team.

[DragonBand06]

The cowboys have lost 2 more games than the Giants. 2 games is not the difference between a good team and a bad team. Lest we forget that the Boys have their last two games vs. the Ravens and Eagles, and control their own destiny. They have a record better than or equal to 4 of the 7 other divisions' leaders. That =/= suck.

[slorch]

uh,yes they do. At least that is what every sports show has been saying.

if they do win the next two, Dallas doesn't have to depend on anyone else to get in the POs.

If dallas drops one, then other teams come into play...

[slorch]

How can you be a Staubach fan and not root for Cowboys a little bit? I grew up a Cowboys/Aikman/Smith/Irvin fan. Im still a huge fan of the team.

there's a ton of "Staubach fans" and more likely "Landry fans" that still hate everything about Jerry Jones, and therefore the Cowboys.

I understand it. I just don't feel that way.

[JMSFan]

if they do win the next two, Dallas doesn't have to depend on anyone else to get in the POs.

If dallas drops one, then other teams come into play...

Ok, that makes sense.

[Red Storm]

And last year the Cowboys were already in the playoffs and the Giants...not quite.

So, look what happened with that! ;)

STFU, GTFO, and DIAF. TY

Yeah, but the Giants don't have a poisonous snake at WR...oh wait, they did and won any way...can't use that argument...Ummm, well that was last year...wait, used that argument in other posts about Romo and Manning and other stuff...Ummm...

Scoreboard this season and Knibb High School football rules!:D

[SLC]

if they do win the next two, Dallas doesn't have to depend on anyone else to get in the POs.

If dallas drops one, then other teams come into play...


Thanks.. Thats what I meant.. They are sitting firmly in the #5 spot right now and would need no help getting in if they win out.. They could lose 1 and still make it... Lose 2 and proly not.

[Panther #73]

Cowboys are still the best franchise in history

put that in your hater-ade and drink it

[JMSFan]

Cowboys are still the best franchise in history

put that in your hater-ade and drink it

Here is the winning percentages of NFL franchises... even though Dallas has 5 Superbowl rings, the Steelers and 49ers do too. So that statement about Dallas being the best just isnt correct.

1. Miami .600
2. Oakland .585
3. Chicago .574
4. Dallas .578
5. Cleveland .572
6. 49ers .565

Besides that,if we count championships, then you just cant count superbowls. You have to also count NFL championships. So total championships go to Green Bay.

12: Green Bay -- 9 NFL (1929-31,36,39,44,61-62,65), 3 Super Bowls (1966-67,96)
9: Chicago -- 8 NFL (1921, 32-33,40-41,43,46,63), 1 Super Bowl (1985)
8: Browns: 8 -- 4 AAFC (1946-49), 4 NFL (1950,54-55,64)
6: New York Giants -- 4 NFL (1927,34,38,56), 2 Super Bowls (1986,90)
5: Dallas -- 5 Super Bowls (1971,77,92-93,95)
5: Washington -- 2 NFL (1937,42), 3 Super Bowls (1982,87,91)
5: 49ers -- 5 Super Bowls (1981,84,88-89,94)

Being in a 3 way tie for 5th place just didnt give any grounds to boast about being the "best".

[DragonBand06]

Here is the winning percentages of NFL franchises... even though Dallas has 5 Superbowl rings, the Steelers and 49ers do too. So that statement about Dallas being the best just isnt correct.

1. Miami .600
2. Oakland .585
3. Chicago .574
4. Dallas .578
5. Cleveland .572
6. 49ers .565

Besides that,if we count championships, then you just cant count superbowls. You have to also count NFL championships. So total championships go to Green Bay.

12: Green Bay -- 9 NFL (1929-31,36,39,44,61-62,65), 3 Super Bowls (1966-67,96)
9: Chicago -- 8 NFL (1921, 32-33,40-41,43,46,63), 1 Super Bowl (1985)
8: Browns: 8 -- 4 AAFC (1946-49), 4 NFL (1950,54-55,64)
6: New York Giants -- 4 NFL (1927,34,38,56), 2 Super Bowls (1986,90)
5: Dallas -- 5 Super Bowls (1971,77,92-93,95)
5: Washington -- 2 NFL (1937,42), 3 Super Bowls (1982,87,91)
5: 49ers -- 5 Super Bowls (1981,84,88-89,94)

Being in a 3 way tie for 5th place just didnt give any grounds to boast about being the "best".
If you count championships (NFL championships up to Superbowl I, which was in 1967, and Super Bowls) after Dallas came into the league (1960), it becomes:

6: Green Bay -- 3 NFL (61-62,65), 3 Super Bowls (1966-67,96)
5: Dallas -- 5 Super Bowls (1971,77,92-93,95)
5: 49ers -- 5 Super Bowls (1981,84,88-89,94)
5: Steelers -- 5 Super Bowls (Look up the dates)
3: Washington -- 3 Super Bowls (1982,87,91)
3: New York Giants -- 3 Super Bowls (1986,90,2008)
2: Chicago -- 1 NFL (63), 1 Super Bowl (1985)
1: Browns: -- 1 NFL (1964)

So since Dallas came into the NFL, they are tied for 2nd most championships, and as you said, they have a better winning percentage than The 49ers, Steelers, and Packers. That's enough to at least argue that they are the best.

[JMSFan]

If you count championships (NFL championships up to Superbowl I, which was in 1967, and Super Bowls) after Dallas came into the league (1960), it becomes:

6: Green Bay -- 3 NFL (61-62,65), 3 Super Bowls (1966-67,96)
5: Dallas -- 5 Super Bowls (1971,77,92-93,95)
5: 49ers -- 5 Super Bowls (1981,84,88-89,94)
5: Steelers -- 5 Super Bowls (Look up the dates)
3: Washington -- 3 Super Bowls (1982,87,91)
3: New York Giants -- 3 Super Bowls (1986,90,2008)
2: Chicago -- 1 NFL (63), 1 Super Bowl (1985)
1: Browns: -- 1 NFL (1964)

So since Dallas came into the NFL, they are tied for 2nd most championships, and as you said, they have a better winning percentage than The 49ers, Steelers, and Packers. That's enough to at least argue that they are the best.

Sure, if we only count the years since they came into the league.
Just for fun, lets count only the years that the Cleveland Browns and the 49ers were in the AAFC.

The 49ers were 38 wins, 14 losses, and 2 ties. Thats a .722 percentage.
The Browns were 47 wins, 4 losses, and 3 ties. Thats a .898 percentage. Plus add in the fact that they were undefeated in 5 post season games.
That would make them the greatest.
Point is, you have to use the whole history, not just a certain time frame.

[DragonBand06]

Sure, if we only count the years since they came into the league.
Just for fun, lets count only the years that the Cleveland Browns and the 49ers were in the AAFC.

The 49ers were 38 wins, 14 losses, and 2 ties. Thats a .722 percentage.
The Browns were 47 wins, 4 losses, and 3 ties. Thats a .898 percentage. Plus add in the fact that they were undefeated in 5 post season games.
That would make them the greatest.
Point is, you have to use the whole history, not just a certain time frame.I'm just saying can you really penalize a team for not being created? Maybe if you look at post-1960 games, Dallas is the best. If you look at post 2000s, NE is the best. It can be skewed lots of different ways.

[JMSFan]

I'm just saying can you really penalize a team for not being created? Maybe if you look at post-1960 games, Dallas is the best. If you look at post 2000s, NE is the best. It can be skewed lots of different ways.


Very true. Thats why I always disagree when I hear someone say that Dallas or the 49ers are the best franchise in history.

[Dawg Fan]

Very true. Thats why I always disagree when I hear someone say that Dallas or the 49ers are the best franchise in history.

The plain fact is the Cowboys represent the NFL worldwide. They have the championships and more fans than ANY other team by a long shot. Everyone knows the Cowboys star. Taking all the aspects that are the nfl the Cowboys are by far the best franchise in history.

hating them does not change that.

[slorch]

When you look at success on the field alone, there are other teams that can be included in the discussion.

The factors some folks are leaving out( conveniently) are the draw that the Cowboys are when playing on the road, the TV ratings they have regardless of what time slot they play in, as well always leading in merchandise sales. When these factors are included, nobody in the NFL is remotely close across that spectrum. Stadiums play a big role in driving franchise value. Next season, the Cowboys will be playing(rightfully so) in the best stadium in the league. They will be the most valuable franchise in the NFL.

You play the games to win, but the franchises are fundamentally a business, and there is absolutely no way in hell you could question the Jerry Jones as being the best franchise in football when you include all of this.

[Red Storm]

The plain fact is the Cowboys represent the NFL worldwide. They have the championships and more fans than ANY other team by a long shot. Everyone knows the Cowboys star. Taking all the aspects that are the nfl the Cowboys are by far the best franchise in history.

hating them does not change that.

You are confusing facts with your opinions.

Typical Cowboy Sheep.;)

[Dawg Fan]

You are confusing facts with your opinions.

Typical Cowboy Sheep.;)

really...show me facts that I am wrong....typical hater...... jealous

BTW giants suck

[Red Storm]

really...show me facts that I am wrong....typical hater...... jealous

BTW giants suck

Thanks for proving my point with your comments...those are all opinion.

I believe the statement one of your fellow sheep made, which turned out to be opinion not fact, was that the Cowboys were the "best franchise in history." Fact is that they are not based on winning pct., or total Super Bowls and or Championships won. If you want to think that the Cowboys are the best franchise ever, that is your OPINION and you are entitled to it.

Just scroll up a couple of responses on this thread and you'll get all the FACTS that you need.

[slorch]

Thanks for proving my point with your comments...those are all opinion.

I believe the statement one of your fellow sheep made, which turned out to be opinion not fact, was that the Cowboys were the "best franchise in history." Fact is that they are not based on winning pct., or total Super Bowls and or Championships won. If you want to think that the Cowboys are the best franchise ever, that is your OPINION and you are entitled to it.

Just scroll up a couple of responses on this thread and you'll get all the FACTS that you need.

value of franchise, along with the drawing power of said franchise, especially on the road, leaves no one but Dallas. That is fact also my friend. there is nobody, I repeat nobody in the NFL that can touch Dallas in that regard. they are the most successful franchise in pro football.

[Dawg Fan]

value of franchise, along with the drawing power of said franchise, especially on the road, leaves no one but Dallas. That is fact also my friend. there is nobody, I repeat nobody in the NFL that can touch Dallas in that regard. they are the most successful franchise in pro football.


He is a hater and is oblivious to the truth

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

value of franchise, along with the drawing power of said franchise, especially on the road, leaves no one but Dallas. That is fact also my friend. there is nobody, I repeat nobody in the NFL that can touch Dallas in that regard. they are the most successful franchise in pro football.

This! Good or bad, great or horrible, drama or no drama, people WANT to see the 'Boys.

[JMSFan]

This! Good or bad, great or horrible, drama or no drama, people WANT to see the 'Boys.

I dont. :D

[JMSFan]

value of franchise, along with the drawing power of said franchise, especially on the road, leaves no one but Dallas. That is fact also my friend. there is nobody, I repeat nobody in the NFL that can touch Dallas in that regard. they are the most successful franchise in pro football.

popularity doesnt equal being successful. Being in the drivers seat this year for a Wildcard spot, last year being the #1 seed and dropping the first p.o. game, having a winless p.o. record (for what now, 10-12 years?) Somehow thats just a strange definition of being the "best franchise in history".

[Dawg Fan]

I dont. :D

yet you can't stay away from the thread about the Cowboys.....troll:p

[Dawg Fan]

popularity doesnt equal being successful. Being in the drivers seat this year for a Wildcard spot, last year being the #1 seed and dropping the first p.o. game, having a winless p.o. record (for what now, 10-12 years?) Somehow thats just a strange definition of being the "best franchise in history".

as opposed to your team?:rolleyes:

[Red Storm]

value of franchise, along with the drawing power of said franchise, especially on the road, leaves no one but Dallas. That is fact also my friend. there is nobody, I repeat nobody in the NFL that can touch Dallas in that regard. they are the most successful franchise in pro football.

I agree with that. I think the NFL is much more interesting when the Cowboys are good. When you encompass all those aspects then sure, it would be tough to argue against that.

Oh, and one more thing dawg, can you go back and read the title of the thread? I'll help you...Boys and Gents...translation, Cowboys and Giants.

Nice try though.;)

[JMSFan]

as opposed to your team?:rolleyes:

At least I stated facts. You stated opinions, and had nothing else to back it up with, except more opinions.

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

I dont. :D

My man, you have no choice!:D

[JMSFan]

My man, you have no choice!:D

Thats harsh. :D

But yea, youre right. The Cowboys are like driving by a bad wreck. As much as you want to, you just cant look away.

[SLC]

Thats harsh. :D

But yea, youre right. The Cowboys are like driving by a bad wreck. As much as you want to, you just cant look away.



JMS = Rubernecker.:D

[Dawg Fan]

I agree with that. I think the NFL is much more interesting when the Cowboys are good. When you encompass all those aspects then sure, it would be tough to argue against that.

Oh, and one more thing dawg, can you go back and read the title of the thread? I'll help you...Boys and Gents...translation, Cowboys and Giants.

Nice try though.;)

I said giants suck...go back and read:p

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

Thats harsh. :D

But yea, youre right. The Cowboys are like driving by a bad wreck. As much as you want to, you just cant look away.

:notworthyI gotta give it to you for that one!:notworthy

[Red Storm]

I said giants suck...go back and read:p

What a hater:D, but then again I understand. The Super Bowl Champs always have the bulls eye on them. Cowboys used to be that way...15 years ago:Music

[Dawg Fan]

What a hater:D, but then again I understand. The Super Bowl Champs always have the bulls eye on them. Cowboys used to be that way...15 years ago:Music


Cowboys are always that way because they are America's team. No matter how hard you try you can't change that.:cool:

[Red Storm]

Cowboys are always that way because they are America's team. No matter how hard you try you can't change that.:cool:

Agreed