View Full Version : Anybody else see that? Bush has shoes thrown at him
Pearland 06
12-14-2008, 01:42 PM
Wow. A "journalist" from an Iraqi tv station stood up at a press conference and threw his shoes, one at a time, at President Bush. Neither hit him, but Bush said "All I have to report is they were a size 10."
what the hell is wrong with some people??
idk....maybe he was mad that half of his village was blown up for a war on oil?
someone should interview him....
Pearland 06
12-14-2008, 01:44 PM
Nice cynicism.
There are better ways to handle things than assaulting the leader of another nation. Even you should understand that.
http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/ADVG/383~Austin-Powers-Posters.jpg
btw, having shoes thrown at you in middle-eastern practice is a very harsh move. shoes in general are not really used for anything of a friendly nature, so you know this guy was being mad at dubuya for something.
Nice cynicism.
There are better ways to handle things than assaulting the leader of another nation. Even you should understand that.
if i had the chance i would have pelted castro with old cabbages. dubuya is close to the same level.
Pearland 06
12-14-2008, 01:50 PM
Wow. I'm glad you have no say in this country.
What if he had a real weapon? I'm glad Bush had a sense of humor about it, but what if that was a knife?
Wow. I'm glad you have no say in this country.
What if he had a real weapon? I'm glad Bush had a sense of humor about it, but what if that was a knife?
if he had actually caused bodily harm, i would be on the opposite side of the spectrum, but this is nothing more then that scene from zoolander when the creepy dude gets slammed with eggs from the protesters.
i think it's funny that you think you have that much of a say this country..... :laugh
Pearland 06
12-14-2008, 01:53 PM
I didn't say I did. I said I'm glad you don't. Very different.
okt0ber
12-14-2008, 02:11 PM
Nice cynicism.
There are better ways to handle things than assaulting the leader of another nation. Even you should understand that.
Like Bush has followed that :rolleyes:
And, like Bush listens to anything anyone (like the citizens of the US) has to say. So, really, the shoes really were the last resort. I think it was rational. You're right, he could have had a weapon. But, he restrained and used shoes. I see is as sensible, because clearly no other way has proven any points to Bush. Not that the shoes have, either.
Who throws a shoe? Honestly?
Matthew 2000 Eagle
12-14-2008, 02:18 PM
Who throws a shoe? Honestly?
There weren't any chairs around so, he couldn't do as much damage as he wanted to.
There weren't any chairs around so, he couldn't do as much damage as he wanted to.
bush once fell off his chair and deemed all chairs terrorists.....
yankee
12-14-2008, 06:23 PM
stay classy baghdad!
dragons08
12-14-2008, 07:09 PM
Who throws a shoe? Honestly?
What movie is that from???
Austin Powers i think?
okt0ber
12-14-2008, 07:18 PM
What movie is that from???
Austin Powers i think?
Duh!
Bobcat81
12-14-2008, 07:37 PM
if he had actually caused bodily harm, i would be on the opposite side of the spectrum, but this is nothing more then that scene from zoolander when the creepy dude gets slammed with eggs from the protesters.
i think it's funny that you think you have that much of a say this country..... :laugh
You're not getting the big picture..
That guy not only insulted your president, he insulted YOU!! And by doing so, showed how he really feels about our country and the poeple in it. I'm sure there are many more (if not most in his country) with that kind of hatred about us.
Laugh if you must..but the joke is on YOU and the rest of America.
One more reason not to trust the rag headed B:Censor:ards
okt0ber
12-14-2008, 08:08 PM
You're not getting the big picture..
That guy not only insulted your president, he insulted YOU!! And by doing so, showed how he really feels about our country and the poeple in it. I'm sure there are many more (if not most in his country) with that kind of hatred about us.
Laugh if you must..but the joke is on YOU and the rest of America.
One more reason not to trust the rag headed B:Censor:ards
Why do they dislike us? Because we provoke them with our ways...
yankee
12-14-2008, 08:13 PM
thought i'd never see the day where our own citizens are defending a man who threw shoes at the president of the USA...i mean, they are just shoes, but it's the point...
yankee
12-14-2008, 08:15 PM
Why do they dislike us? Because we provoke them with our ways...
one reporter trying to make world headlines is not exactly a good representation of "they" or "them"...JMO.
okt0ber
12-14-2008, 08:16 PM
thought i'd never see the day where our own citizens are defending a man who threw shoes at the president of the USA...i mean, they are just shoes, but it's the point...
For real, with all our many years of wisdom and history... :rolleyes:
okt0ber
12-14-2008, 08:16 PM
one reporter trying to make world headlines is not exactly a good representation of "they" or "them"...JMO.
Well that's sorta what I thought, too, but Bobcat81 thinks otherwise. I was just responding to the direction he went with it...
You're not getting the big picture..
That guy not only insulted your president, he insulted YOU!! And by doing so, showed how he really feels about our country and the poeple in it. I'm sure there are many more (if not most in his country) with that kind of hatred about us.
Laugh if you must..but the joke is on YOU and the rest of America.
One more reason not to trust the rag headed B:Censor:ards
how did he insult me? i was against the war in iraq to begin with...to me it looks like he was showing me how much he is against it aswell by cleating dubuya on his farewell tour to the nation he decimated in the name of oil.
again, how is this joke on me? if we would have come in with diplomacy instead of dubuya's fake texan fight facade, maybe we would have slowly gained respect in a nation that would have been once a foe. nope....now we turned more middle-easterners off to western culture by the sight of bombs. awesome
maybe it's one more reason for them not to trust the fat, oil guzzling gun-*******.... it goes both ways.
Firebird
12-14-2008, 08:26 PM
Who throws a shoe? Honestly?
Hitting someone with a shoe is very disrespectful in a Middle Eastern context. Remember that footage of Iraqis beating Saddam statues with shoes after the invasion? It's the same concept.
honestly, why are you people suprised by this? the country is less stable (inwardly) then before the war, just that we have so many blockades and sanctions over there that there's no wiggle room.
Hitting someone with a shoe is very disrespectful in a Middle Eastern context. Remember that footage of Iraqis beating Saddam statues with shoes after the invasion? It's the same concept.
i remembered never to show the sole (soul?) of my foot to a muslim if ever in a business meeting. from them on, i realized that the shoe or foot isn't losely used in middle-eastern culture.
and if i remember correctly, the left-side is deemed (in some situations) as a bad omen, or even a form of disrespect.
Firebird
12-14-2008, 08:30 PM
i remembered never to show the sole (soul?) of my foot to a muslim if ever in a business meeting. from them on, i realized that the shoe or foot isn't losely used in middle-eastern culture.
and if i remember correctly, the left-side is deemed (in some situations) as a bad omen, or even a form of disrespect.
In a lot of the world you should never touch anything with your left hand, especially to shake hands. It's because that's what they use to wipe their :Censor:.
In a lot of the world you should never touch anything with your left hand, especially to shake hands. It's because that's what they use to wipe their :Censor:.
which sucks, because i'm prodominantly left-handed.
Firebird
12-14-2008, 08:33 PM
which sucks, because i'm prodominantly left-handed.
Most don't even use TP. They just dip their hand in water and have at it. I'd be disgusted, too, if someone offered me that hand to shake.
Most don't even use TP. They just dip their hand in water and have at it. I'd be disgusted, too, if someone offered me that hand to shake.
oh, i hate people who offer the left...it pisses me off to high hell, to be honest.
i was refering to picking up a glass or even handing a paper off. either way it's frowned upon.
Warbird
12-14-2008, 09:33 PM
Why do they dislike us? Because we provoke them with our ways...
Yeah, we should've totally prevented the Crusades. Definitely our fault.
rocketgrl94
12-14-2008, 09:39 PM
Here's the video:
http://bossip.com/64868/reporter-throws-2-shoes-at-george-bush/
Hitting someone with a shoe is very disrespectful in a Middle Eastern context. Remember that footage of Iraqis beating Saddam statues with shoes after the invasion? It's the same concept.
http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/ADVG/383~Austin-Powers-Posters.jpg
Bobcat81
12-14-2008, 09:51 PM
how did he insult me? i was against the war in iraq to begin with...to me it looks like he was showing me how much he is against it aswell by cleating dubuya on his farewell tour to the nation he decimated in the name of oil.
again, how is this joke on me? if we would have come in with diplomacy instead of dubuya's fake texan fight facade, maybe we would have slowly gained respect in a nation that would have been once a foe. nope....now we turned more middle-easterners off to western culture by the sight of bombs. awesome
maybe it's one more reason for them not to trust the fat, oil guzzling gun-*******.... it goes both ways.
You are an American right? Where is your loyalty? Your "loyalty" and patriotism should be enough to never ask such a question. I don't care who it was that he threw the shoe at.. an American on a diplomatic mission is there representing US.. the people of the United States. You may not like Bush but you should be offended nontheless if you truly feel any loyalty to this country.
yankee
12-14-2008, 09:53 PM
You are an American right? Where is your loyalty? Your "loyalty" and patriotism should be enough to never ask such a question. I don't care who it was that he threw the shoe at.. an American on a diplomatic mission is there representing US.. the people of the United States. You may not like Bush but you should be offended nontheless if you truly feel any loyalty to this country.
agreed. if that was obama getting a shoe thrown at him, would your reaction be the same? i don't care who the president of the u.s. is, doing anything like this is a slap in the face.
You are an American right? Where is your loyalty? Your "loyalty" and patriotism should be enough to never ask such a question. I don't care who it was that he threw the shoe at.. an American on a diplomatic mission is there representing US.. the people of the United States. You may not like Bush but you should be offended nontheless if you truly feel any loyalty to this country.
sorry, i'd just like to hear the whole story before i pass any judgement. like i said, for all i know this dude could have lost his entire family at the hands of a bomb we dropped. if that's so, i don't blame the guy for throwin some puma's at dubya.
agreed. if that was obama getting a shoe thrown at him, would your reaction be the same? i don't care who the president of the u.s. is, doing anything like this is a slap in the face.
if obama had agreed to the war in iraq, acted an *** for 7 years, then made a goodbye trip (which i would take as an insult if i were a n iraqi) then i would be sayin "obama just got puma'd".
it works both ways.
Bobcat81
12-14-2008, 10:24 PM
Why do they dislike us? Because we provoke them with our ways...
We "offer" our way of democracy, which is far better than what they've had for centuries past.
I think we would have left them well enough alone had their Govt. not invaded Kuwait which was alied to us. And,..thumbed their noses and dared us to come and take it back
Fired upon our military planes while in a state of surrender to the UN and the U.S.. (after starting a war with Kuwait & it's alies)
Had they not used chemical gas to create genocide on thousands of their own people....
Tried to construct nuclear facilities capable of manufacturing nuclear weaponry depsite sanctions...
Intercepted msg's linking the Iraqi govt. and terrorist groups working together to plot bombings & the killing of americans abroad..and those that support us.
If any provoking has gone on.. the Iraqi's have done plenty.
We "offer" our way of democracy, which is far better than what they've had for centuries past.
says who? if they're as tight knit as tribes as they appear to be, why not create two different countries so they will be able to make decisions that will not lower the standards of one division?
I think we would have left them well enough alone had their Govt. not invaded Kuwait which was alied to us. And,..thumbed their noses and dared us to come and take it back
what the ****? that was when i was a baby, bro.... get that crap out of here
Fired upon our military planes while in a state of surrender to the UN and the U.S.. (after starting a war with Kuwait & it's alies)
this century, guey
Had they not used chemical gas to create genocide on thousands of their own people....
That should have been the UN's situation, not ours. they did NOT kill thousands of OUR citizens.
Tried to construct nuclear facilities capable of manufacturing nuclear weaponry depsite sanctions...
We have found no evidence of weapons of mass destruction". innocent until proven guilty, homie.
Intercepted msg's linking the Iraqi govt. and terrorist groups working together to plot bombings & the killing of americans abroad..and those that support us.
we should have gone after afghanistan and pakistan harder if we were worried about terrorists. considering about 3/4 of the taliban either resides/trained/lived in the mountains along the afghani/pakistanian border
If any provoking has gone on.. the Iraqi's have done plenty.
way to hold a grudge.....
what the hell are you bringing up dubuyas dad's shortcomings for?
Bobcat81
12-14-2008, 10:36 PM
sorry, i'd just like to hear the whole story before i pass any judgement. like i said, for all i know this dude could have lost his entire family at the hands of a bomb we dropped. if that's so, i don't blame the guy for throwin some puma's at dubya.
Casualties of war sometimes can't be helped. We've gone farther than most in trying to invent weapons that go solely to destroy the perp..
As i see it, He should be happy and greatful that a nation was willing and able to step in and deliver them from such a harsh dictatorship.
Many American moms & pops from 1940-1945 lost their sons & daughters to a cause much greater than his.. and they hold no anger. They are proud because it had to be done to save humanity. His loss (if any) should be a sacrifice for the freedome he now envelopes himself in.
Casualties of war sometimes can't be helped. We've gone farther than most in trying to invent weapons that go solely to destroy the perp..
As i see it, He should be happy and greatful that a nation was willing and able to step in and deliver them from such a harsh dictatorship.
Many American moms & pops from 1940-1945 lost their sons & daughters to a cause much greater than his.. and they hold no anger. They are proud because it had to be done to save humanity. His loss (if any) should be a sacrifice for the freedome he now envelopes himself in.
puro mierda.
fighting in a war, and being killed in a war are 2 different things.
1 has honor, the other is a waste of a life.
and if we shouldn't take "casualties" personal, then why were hate crimes after 9/11 up on american muslims?
svhorns
12-14-2008, 10:52 PM
Bush looked like a boxer... bobbin and weavin LOL I gotta give it to him... for an old man he has some great reflexes!
Bobcat81
12-14-2008, 10:54 PM
what the hell are you bringing up dubuyas dad's shortcomings for?
You can't be serious...
I thought we paid taxes to educate our youth.. :rolleyes:
yankee
12-14-2008, 10:56 PM
fighting in a war, and being killed in a war are 2 different things.
1 has honor, the other is a waste of a life.
hahaha. i would love to see what the military veterans on this board would say about that. :laugh
You can't be serious...
I thought we paid taxes to educate our youth.. :rolleyes:
yay...he got kuwait back.... but he left sadame in power.
then it just so happens that his son take him out.
lolz it so wierd how that worked out....
hahaha. i would love to see what the military veterans on this board would say about that. :laugh
so the 3 year old child who got hit by a motar isn't a waste of a life?
Firebird
12-14-2008, 11:02 PM
yay...he got kuwait back.... but he left sadame in power.
then it just so happens that his son take him out.
lolz it so wierd how that worked out....
41 had a clearly defined plan to judiciously apply military force in pursuit of a clearly delineated political goal. What do you know, he stuck with the plan and it worked out. You're telling me that 41 knew his Clausewitz. I :notworthy to 41.
41 had a clearly defined plan to judiciously apply military force in pursuit of a clearly delineated political goal. What do you know, he stuck with the plan and it worked out. You're telling me that 41 knew his Clausewitz. I :notworthy to 41.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/224/491864768_8e80602999.jpg?v=0
yankee
12-14-2008, 11:06 PM
so the 3 year old child who got hit by a motar isn't a waste of a life?
nope.
Firebird
12-14-2008, 11:08 PM
hahaha. i would love to see what the military veterans on this board would say about that. :laugh
I seriously doubt that you will get any combat veteran on here who would view the collateral casualties that happen in any war as anything other than an unmitigated tragedy.
yankee
12-14-2008, 11:10 PM
I seriously doubt that you will get any combat veteran on here who would view the collateral casualties that happen in any war as anything other than an unmitigated tragedy.
i didn't say it wasn't a tragedy. i was talking about the "waste of life" part...ya know, the part i highlighted.
i didn't say it wasn't a tragedy. i was talking about the "waste of life" part...ya know, the part i highlighted.
http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/mfactor/th_orly_bush.jpg
cold-hearted.
svhorns
12-14-2008, 11:13 PM
alot of military verterans won't talk about who they've killed because in some instances they have had to kill innocent people... some knew it... but orders are orders...
Bobcat81
12-14-2008, 11:13 PM
puro mierda.
fighting in a war, and being killed in a war are 2 different things.
1 has honor, the other is a waste of a life.
and if we shouldn't take "casualties" personal, then why were hate crimes after 9/11 up on american muslims?
Who knows.. Maybe they felt like they were being invaded by a masquerading force?
I imagine a lot of white Americans could ask why they are the victims of hate crimes more than anyone else..
No one bothers to address that theory either..
Who knows.. Maybe they felt like they were being invaded by a masquerading force?
I imagine a lot of white Americans could ask why they are the victims of hate crimes more than anyone else..
No one bothers to address that theory either..
cuz they're the majority.... dee dee dee
Bobcat81
12-14-2008, 11:20 PM
yay...he got kuwait back.... but he left sadame in power.
then it just so happens that his son take him out.
lolz it so wierd how that worked out....
He left Saddam in power because the bleeding heart liberals wouldn't support Bush Sr. going in and finishing the job..
That's like a doctor feeling sorry for all the cancer he's trying to remove from your body and leaving some in because he feels it has a right to live just like everything else.. :rolleyes:
Why go to war twice over the same idiot if you don't have to. Just kill 'em and get it over with
He left Saddam in power because the bleeding heart liberals wouldn't support Bush Sr. going in and finishing the job..
That's like a doctor feeling sorry for all the cancer he's trying to remove from your body and leaving some in because he feels it has a right to live just like everything else.. :rolleyes:
Why go to war twice over the same idiot if you don't have to. Just kill 'em and get it over with
yea...it was the bleeding heart liberals.... it's always the bleeding heart liberals....
Bobcat81
12-14-2008, 11:31 PM
yea...it was the bleeding heart liberals.... it's always the bleeding heart liberals....
The same ones that let criminal after criminal go free to kill again..
Live and learn
The same ones that let criminal after criminal go free to kill again..
Live and learn
as much as you want to blame the libs for that, it's a business....a big business.
and what party less then three's (<3) big business?
you guessed it.....the republican party.
so both parties are to blame, stop being nieve.
this is a fun thread.
DragonWatcher
12-15-2008, 12:03 AM
The same ones that let criminal after criminal go free to kill again..
Live and learn
Stereotype war....41 had the complete power to run the war. This one wasn't the fault of "bleeding heart liberals". I suggest you give the constitution a quick reread to figure out who does what.
RedRage00
12-15-2008, 09:06 AM
Wow, I just saw the video. I laughed my @$$ off. Too bad he missed.
Maroondog
12-15-2008, 10:23 AM
W still has some good moves.
Pinion
12-15-2008, 01:54 PM
I'll be so glad when Bush leaves office and then we can start blaming everything that happens on the next puppet. Life will be good then.
rocketgrl94
12-15-2008, 03:53 PM
I'll be so glad when Bush leaves office and then we can start blaming everything that happens on the next puppet. Life will be good then.
Yeah ok...blame it on Obama!:rolleyes:
Pinion
12-15-2008, 05:51 PM
Yeah ok...blame it on Obama!:rolleyes:
why not? You know it's his fault.
svhorns
12-15-2008, 07:40 PM
Obama = Bush = Clinton = Bush = Reagan = etc...
This reporter is an idiot...makes me wish we never would have gone into Iraq...not because it was a bad idea on bush's part..because I would have loved to see this guy do something like this during Saddam's reign....he would have been feed limb by limb to a pet tiger....Bush is the reason this guy was even able to speak out against a world leader in the country he lives in...welcome to America and freedom you inconsiderate POS reporter.
Bobcat81
12-15-2008, 08:38 PM
Stereotype war....41 had the complete power to run the war. This one wasn't the fault of "bleeding heart liberals". I suggest you give the constitution a quick reread to figure out who does what.
No?
What gave the leadership the inclination that there would be too much to answer to had they finished off the retreating Iraqi army hightailing it back to Baghdad on the Basrah highway? There was already a stir from the press about all the killing that took place there. Legitimately, they were still considered a target of opportunity..and rightfully so.
Feel free to educate me..
I'm not aware of any "Constitutional requirement" that orders american soldiers to cease fire on a retreating army that is still intact, nor eliminate a top commander of an opposing army during wartime.
Firebird
12-15-2008, 09:01 PM
No?
What gave the leadership the inclination that there would be too much to answer to had they finished off the retreating Iraqi army hightailing it back to Baghdad on the Basrah highway? There was already a stir from the press about all the killing that took place there. Legitimately, they were still considered a target of opportunity..and rightfully so.
Feel free to educate me..
I'm not aware of any "Constitutional requirement" that orders american soldiers to cease fire on a retreating army that is still intact, nor eliminate a top commander of an opposing army during wartime.
Professional soldiers and wise statesmen like Brent Scowcroft and Colin Powell advised 41 that it was one thing to defeat Saddam and his army and force them out of Kuwait, and quite another to occupy his country and reconstruct it into anything the world could possibly want to see. What do you know, they were right, as the past six miserable years have shown. And still no guarantee that IF we ever get to leave Iraq will stay together, let alone consolidate democracy. Guess they were bleeding heart liberals though.
Professional soldiers and wise statesmen like Brent Scowcroft and Colin Powell advised 41 that it was one thing to defeat Saddam and his army and force them out of Kuwait, and quite another to occupy his country and reconstruct it into anything the world could possibly want to see. What do you know, they were right, as the past six miserable years have shown. And still no guarantee that IF we ever get to leave Iraq will stay together, let alone consolidate democracy. Guess they were bleeding heart liberals though.
this post, it makes me happy.
Warbird
12-15-2008, 11:25 PM
Professional soldiers and wise statesmen like Brent Scowcroft and Colin Powell advised 41 that it was one thing to defeat Saddam and his army and force them out of Kuwait, and quite another to occupy his country and reconstruct it into anything the world could possibly want to see. What do you know, they were right, as the past six miserable years have shown. And still no guarantee that IF we ever get to leave Iraq will stay together, let alone consolidate democracy. Guess they were bleeding heart liberals though.
Bush 41 had also pledged not to do so beforehand because he did it expressly with a U.N. mandate and he did not go beyond that mandate. 'Course, Saddam caused of years of trouble afterward with the Kurds and the no-fly zones, etc.
But you have to admit, things are looking up. Quite a bit, in fact.
Alurista
12-16-2008, 09:50 AM
Bush 41 had also pledged not to do so beforehand because he did it expressly with a U.N. mandate and he did not go beyond that mandate. 'Course, Saddam caused of years of trouble afterward with the Kurds and the no-fly zones, etc.
But you have to admit, things are looking up. Quite a bit, in fact.
Yep...give it maybe another 10 years, and god knows how many more American lives before this POS country is somewhat "fixed".
That is...if Iran doesn't decide to nuke the entire Middle East before then..
LoneRocket
12-16-2008, 12:22 PM
There are reports that the guy was given a beat down urr taken in for questioning where he fell and broke his arm. How come S. Service did not get in front of the President and remove him from the room. They just watched him take off a second shoe and throw it at him.
There are reports that the guy was given a beat down urr taken in for questioning where he fell and broke his arm. How come S. Service did not get in front of the President and remove him from the room. They just watched him take off a second shoe and throw it at him.
nothing about 43's administration coincides with timely actions.
Warbird
12-16-2008, 08:24 PM
There are reports that the guy was given a beat down urr taken in for questioning where he fell and broke his arm. How come S. Service did not get in front of the President and remove him from the room. They just watched him take off a second shoe and throw it at him.
The fact that that guy isn't dead probably prevents another international incident.
Dawg Fan
12-16-2008, 10:20 PM
Like Bush has followed that :rolleyes:
And, like Bush listens to anything anyone (like the citizens of the US) has to say. So, really, the shoes really were the last resort. I think it was rational. You're right, he could have had a weapon. But, he restrained and used shoes. I see is as sensible, because clearly no other way has proven any points to Bush. Not that the shoes have, either.
rational? are you a f'n moron
Hey I have an idea, why don't you go over there and tell them we are sorry:rolleyes:
RATTLERS316
12-17-2008, 02:12 PM
too bad he missed:D
rocketgrl94
12-17-2008, 02:13 PM
too bad he missed:D
i know DAMN IT!!!:D
fbstangman
12-17-2008, 04:21 PM
Bush is still quick(physically). Although I would rank him as one of our worst presidents, I have to say, if they had an all- presidents flag football team, he would be a starter.:D
rocketgrl94
12-17-2008, 04:22 PM
Bush is still quick(physically). Although I would rank him as one of our worst presidents, I have to say, if they had an all- presidents flag football team, he would be a starter.:D
Alright i admit gotta give him credit for that:D
pack75
12-17-2008, 04:55 PM
Casualties of war sometimes can't be helped. We've gone farther than most in trying to invent weapons that go solely to destroy the perp..
As i see it, He should be happy and greatful that a nation was willing and able to step in and deliver them from such a harsh dictatorship.
Many American moms & pops from 1940-1945 lost their sons & daughters to a cause much greater than his.. and they hold no anger. They are proud because it had to be done to save humanity. His loss (if any) should be a sacrifice for the freedome he now envelopes himself in.
Are you serious??? You DO NOT speak for me as a fellow American.
Your comment is sickening...sad.
Take some advice from God:
James 1:19
Wherefore, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath:
svhorns
12-17-2008, 05:01 PM
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svhorns
12-17-2008, 06:53 PM
http://i38.tinypic.com/juz953.jpeg
DragonBand06
12-17-2008, 07:01 PM
Shenanigans.
When Obama was called a "house slave" we were all quick to back him, and with good reason, but a reporter throws his shoes at bush (in a country where this is considered a great insult no less) and we're rationalizing it and saying "good for him for restraining himself"? Not all of agree with either Bush or Obama but they are the POTUS and should be appropriately respected.
Welcome to the USSA, home of double-standards.
Shenanigans.
When Obama was called a "house slave" we were all quick to back him, and with good reason, but a reporter throws his shoes at bush (in a country where this is considered a great insult no less) and we're rationalizing it and saying "good for him for restraining himself"? Not all of agree with either Bush or Obama but they are the POTUS and should be appropriately respected.
Welcome to the USSA, home of double-standards.
yea...i don't remember bush gettin sued on whether he was an american citizen or not because of something he may or may not have said in a foriegn country decades ago....
double-standards are what this country was built on, learn to work the system.
every man is created equaly, jefferson? unless they clean your house and pick your crops?
Pinion
12-17-2008, 07:49 PM
yea...i don't remember bush gettin sued on whether he was an american citizen or not because of something he may or may not have said in a foriegn country decades ago....
double-standards are what this country was built on, learn to work the system.
every man is created equaly, jefferson? unless they clean your house and pick your crops?
People should really move past that whole issue. I get that it was wrong and terrible. It's a shameful part of our history as a country. But it's even more shameful that people today, that were not even alive then, cannot let it go and move on with life.
People should really move past that whole issue. I get that it was wrong and terrible. It's a shameful part of our history as a country. But it's even more shameful that people today, that were not even alive then, cannot let it go and move on with life.
i am. just that, if someone brings up how unfair it is to bush wah wah wah, i'm gonna pull out something that is equally useless.
hit me with a shoe on national tv and see how many people ask for the mans head.
Pinion
12-17-2008, 08:04 PM
i am. just that, if someone brings up how unfair it is to bush wah wah wah, i'm gonna pull out something that is equally useless.
hit me with a shoe on national tv and see how many people ask for the mans head.
I get ya.
On one hand, I consider it an insult to the entire country. But then, it's certainly not worse than some of the things I hear our own citizens say about our president. If the people in our own country disrepect the man openly, how can we expect anything more from citizens of other countries?
On the other hand, we can turn on Jerry Springer and see people toss shoes at each other every day of the week. So really, it's not that big of a deal.
I found it rather amusing. They may consider it to a huge insult over there, but I just look at it like some f:Censor:-tard making an idiot of himself on international TV. But then, he prolly didnt plan on W dodging them either.
Pearland 06
12-17-2008, 08:21 PM
i am. just that, if someone brings up how unfair it is to bush wah wah wah, i'm gonna pull out something that is equally useless.
hit me with a shoe on national tv and see how many people ask for the mans head.
You aren't the president.
mad_fan
12-17-2008, 08:23 PM
Is this a political thread???
:rolleyes:...
mad_fan
12-17-2008, 08:24 PM
Or is it just too heavy???
:rolleyes:
the_phoenix612
12-17-2008, 08:36 PM
http://www.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idUSTRE4BG6UH20081217?feedType=RSS&feedName=oddlyEnoughNews
Pinion
12-17-2008, 08:45 PM
http://www.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idUSTRE4BG6UH20081217?feedType=RSS&feedName=oddlyEnoughNews
I guess it doesnt take much to amuse those people.
Bobcat81
12-17-2008, 08:59 PM
Are you serious??? You DO NOT speak for me as a fellow American.
Your comment is sickening...sad.
Take some advice from God:
James 1:19
Wherefore, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath:
Another young'n on the board,..or someone totally lost in their own sheltered world.
What part of this post do you NOT understand cupcake? It sickens me that you don't quite "get it".
Refering to WW-II there sonny,.. (maybe that's what offended you :rolleyes:)
Hitler, Tojo, and Mussolini had to be stopped at all costs. The world knew it..but i guess you still don't get it.
As for the shoe thrower,.. He may or may not have "lost" someone in the war in Iraq. If he did, then i feel he should be thankful that we got rid of the "tyrant" (I urge you to look that word up) Hussein. If he didn't then he's just another another raghead on the free world bandwagon of hate.
By the way cupcake..
God is also supportive in some cases of war..
"The LORD said to Joshua, "Do not be afraid of them, because by this time tomorrow I will hand all of them, slain, over to Israel. You are to hamstring their horses and burn their chariots." So Joshua and his whole army came against them suddenly at the Waters of Merom and attacked them, and the LORD gave them into the hand of Israel. They defeated them and pursued them ... until no survivors were left. Joshua did to them as the LORD had directed: He hamstrung their horses and burned their chariots... Everyone in [Hazor] they put to the sword. They totally destroyed them, not sparing anyone that breathed, and he burned Hazor itself... The Israelites carried off for themselves all the plunder and livestock of these cities, but all the people they put to the sword until they completely destroyed them, not sparing anyone that breathed. As the LORD commanded his servant Moses, so Moses commanded Joshua, and Joshua did it; he left nothing undone of all that the LORD commanded Moses." (Joshua 11:6-15)
You aren't the president.
nd what makes the president so high and mighty? i don't want anything bad to happen to dub, or any politician, but it was a shoe..... nothing more, nothing less.....a shoe.
like i said before, had this been something more serious, i would treat it so, but all this dude did was shoot the bird off at dub....
fbstangman
12-18-2008, 10:56 AM
I remember coming home from school Nov. 22nd, 1963, and seeing my mother crying. This is NOTHING. NOTHING compared to that.
If the shoe fits...wear it.
the_phoenix612
12-18-2008, 11:12 AM
I remember coming home from school Nov. 22nd, 1963, and seeing my mother crying. This is NOTHING. NOTHING compared to that.
If the shoe fits...wear it.
aww man, you gotta be all depressing like that?
jeez...
RedRage00
12-19-2008, 09:42 AM
Someone emailed me a game that was set up on an Excel spreadsheet.
It has Bush dodging behind a podium and you have to hit him with a shoe. LOL
I wasted like a minute of my life on it, but it was fun.
pack75
12-19-2008, 10:38 AM
Another young'n on the board,..or someone totally lost in their own sheltered world.
What part of this post do you NOT understand cupcake? It sickens me that you don't quite "get it".
Refering to WW-II there sonny,.. (maybe that's what offended you :rolleyes:)
Hitler, Tojo, and Mussolini had to be stopped at all costs. The world knew it..but i guess you still don't get it.
As for the shoe thrower,.. He may or may not have "lost" someone in the war in Iraq. If he did, then i feel he should be thankful that we got rid of the "tyrant" (I urge you to look that word up) Hussein. If he didn't then he's just another another raghead on the free world bandwagon of hate.
By the way cupcake..
God is also supportive in some cases of war..
"The LORD said to Joshua, "Do not be afraid of them, because by this time tomorrow I will hand all of them, slain, over to Israel. You are to hamstring their horses and burn their chariots." So Joshua and his whole army came against them suddenly at the Waters of Merom and attacked them, and the LORD gave them into the hand of Israel. They defeated them and pursued them ... until no survivors were left. Joshua did to them as the LORD had directed: He hamstrung their horses and burned their chariots... Everyone in [Hazor] they put to the sword. They totally destroyed them, not sparing anyone that breathed, and he burned Hazor itself... The Israelites carried off for themselves all the plunder and livestock of these cities, but all the people they put to the sword until they completely destroyed them, not sparing anyone that breathed. As the LORD commanded his servant Moses, so Moses commanded Joshua, and Joshua did it; he left nothing undone of all that the LORD commanded Moses." (Joshua 11:6-15)
Obviously, you don't understand James 1:19.
Bobcat81
12-19-2008, 09:35 PM
Obviously, you don't understand James 1:19.
I think you're being a bit overanalytical of the scripture.
James 1:19 cannot be applied to EVERY situtation in life.
How long do you think the world should have sat back and waited while Saddam Hussein went about his tyrannical dictatorship?
How many more people needed to die?, how many more women needed to be rap*d, How many more needed to be subjected to the mindless torture ordered by Saddam, Uday, and Qusay before someone stepped in and said enough's enough? Ohh..let's not stop there! There were a whole slew of people in high places that brought this wrath down on anyone and everyone that stood in their way! I don't suppose you know that Iraqi athletes who failed to win at the olympics were tortured by this moronic dictatorship?
I really have to question what you're trying to defend here?
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