Longview Lobos vs. Lake Travis Cavaliers

[skyblueice04]

Who you got? A real high scoring Lake Travis vs. a strong Lobo run game.

[NorthTexUmp]

LT easy ................

where/when is this one?

[d-train]

Dead, declining EAST TEXAS school vs a vibrant, growing Austin school, LT 59-0!

[skyblueice04]

Dead and decling? D-Train you have no right to come in here bashing our team. Where is your team? Probably at home somewhere playing basketball. Our boys have worked hard all season and deserve to be here. We, and pretty sure fans from other schools would appreciate if you would not post on our Threads anymore.

[cajun]

Longview!

[TexasRed6x]

The long in Longview is that they will be in for a long day, Cav's roll

[Aggies2009]

Dead, declining EAST TEXAS school vs a vibrant, growing Austin school, LT 59-0!

Dead and declining? You are a joke. Is that why they are in the state finals? I guess it's expecting too much of you to look at the simple fact that they didn't get there by declining.

[SLC]

Lake Travis will win.. To much power on offense... To much.. Guyer is no where near the force that LT is and they put 30 on the scoreboard last night. Longview is having a great season, but this week they are running into a buzzsaw.

[d-train]

Dead and declining? You are a joke. Is that why they are in the state finals? I guess it's expecting too much of you to look at the simple fact that they didn't get there by declining.
Declining=why you are not in the 5A finals, and why you lost in 5A playoffs to 2100 student P-ville team, 35-14! No growth in your area=4A football, WANNABES!

[Aggies2009]

Declining=why you are not in the 5A finals, and why you lost in 5A playoffs to 2100 student P-ville team, 35-14! No growth in your area!

Even though we have 5A numbers now and are only in 4A because at the time of redistricting, we had less than Highland Park? Like I said before, you're ignorant. That Pflugerville team went to state, so where is the shame in losing to a team like that? So ignorant.... And declining doesn't mean no growth. Longview has been at about the same numbers for a while now. The enrollment isn't dropping, the requirement for 5A is going up. Declining =\= staying put, moron.

[teamtopdog]

oh and for the rrsp that said that allens 2 recruits must not be good cause they are going to aTm watch the pick 6 for 90.. and gig em whoop!http://www.hsgametime.com/dfw/videopage-94.html?nvid=313181

[Aggies2009]

oh and for the rrsp that said that allens 2 recruits must not be good cause they are going to aTm watch the pick 6 for 90.. and gig em whoop!http://www.hsgametime.com/dfw/videopage-94.html?nvid=313181

Haha. Thanks and gig em. :notworthy

[Sicemhorns09]

LT easy ................

where/when is this one?

Saturday, December 20th...Floyd Casey Stadium. 2pm

[LoboFan07]

Declining=why you are not in the 5A finals, and why you lost in 5A playoffs to 2100 student P-ville team, 35-14! No growth in your area=4A football, WANNABES!

What the hell does Pflugerville have to do with anything this year?!?!?!

IT WAS LAST YEAR!

You've been saying that all season long.

You said we wouldn't get past Texas High...we blew them out of the water.

You said Dallas Carter would beat us.....and we beat them by 15.

You said there was no way we would get past Highland Park...they didn't even make it far enough to play us.

You said we wouldn't make it to the State Championship game...and guess...we're right here.

You've been dissing us all season long, and guess what...it's done absolutely nothing. We're still winning whether you like it or not.

And if you think...for even a second...that our guys are satisfied with just making it to this State Championship game, you are wrong.

There's a reason John King has a 56-7 record since starting at Longview in 2004. And you'll see that reason on Saturday. I have full confidence that King will have our guys ready to play...and that Aaron Johnson won't let this team die without a fight.

And the best thing about all of this....is that 3/4ths of this team is coming back next year.

[AHMOPirate08]

I am going with Lake Travis in a blowout victory, since they have pretty much blown everyone out of the water this season.

Lake Travis 56
Longview 21

[NorthTexUmp]

oh and for the rrsp that said that allens 2 recruits must not be good cause they are going to aTm watch the pick 6 for 90.. and gig em whoop!http://www.hsgametime.com/dfw/videopage-94.html?nvid=313181

way to ruin a thread by bringing up aTm

[gtee2]

Declining=why you are not in the 5A finals, and why you lost in 5A playoffs to 2100 student P-ville team, 35-14! No growth in your area=4A football, WANNABES!

Everybody wave at your haters "hi haters":D

[tjw]

I'm sure Lake Travis has to be the favorites in this one but since I've been rooting for Longview Lobo's after we played them the first game of the season. Watched them last week at TS after the Trinity game and could not believe they went for 2 and got it. Got to say Go Lobos!

[kalanj]

go longview and who has LT really played worth talking about they had the easiest road to state in 4A like Katy in 5A

[Aggies2009]

I am going with Lake Travis in a blowout victory, since they have pretty much blown everyone out of the water this season.

Lake Travis 56
Longview 21

They didn't blow out 4-6 Westwood. Or Evangel who Longview hung 50 on. The other teams, I've hardly ever heard of other than Killeen. But LT did their part and blew said teams out. I don't think LT has seen anyone like Longview this season. Only time will tell.

[Aggies2009]

I'm sure Lake Travis has to be the favorites in this one but since I've been rooting for Longview Lobo's after we played them the first game of the season. Watched them last week at TS after the Trinity game and could not believe they went for 2 and got it. Got to say Go Lobos!

Thanks for the kind words. Who'd have thought that game this season would end up with two state championship contenders?! :eek:

[allendad]

Go Lobos !

[SLC]

way to ruin a thread by bringing up aTm

Agreed.:cool:

[skyblueice04]

We were looking at Travis' opponents and they really have not played anyone except teams from that area which no one has ever heard of. You're right LoboFan they have dissed us all season. Where are their teams at? Probably home wishing they were in our shoes. We do all of our talking on the field. Lake Travis WILL NOT blow the Lobos away. We are not EVERYONE ELSE!

[LP-79]

You know I hope the game lives up to all the hype. All the experts predicted that Both Lake Travis and Longview would make it to State championship game in the preseason. I went with the East Texas brother in Longview, hate them yes but respect the hell out out of them.

D-Train do all us posters on here a favor. Go to Yappi.com or bucketnutz.com and post there. At least if you are going to post here do so in a respectful grownup way. The immature dissing posts show you are around 11 years old or you have severe mental issues.

[trinitytrojansdominate]

im gonna go with lake travis, although i said we would beat allen and we didnt alot of crazy things can happen out there

[d-train]

What the hell does Pflugerville have to do with anything this year?!?!?!

IT WAS LAST YEAR!

You've been saying that all season long.

You said we wouldn't get past Texas High...we blew them out of the water.

You said Dallas Carter would beat us.....and we beat them by 15.

You said there was no way we would get past Highland Park...they didn't even make it far enough to play us.

You said we wouldn't make it to the State Championship game...and guess...we're right here.

You've been dissing us all season long, and guess what...it's done absolutely nothing. We're still winning whether you like it or not.

And if you think...for even a second...that our guys are satisfied with just making it to this State Championship game, you are wrong.

There's a reason John King has a 56-7 record since starting at Longview in 2004. And you'll see that reason on Saturday. I have full confidence that King will have our guys ready to play...and that Aaron Johnson won't let this team die without a fight.

And the best thing about all of this....is that 3/4ths of this team is coming back next year.
Get REAL! I don't pick DISD teams to beat BURBS or RURAL schools, not even decling growth. DEAD East Texas! New 5A schools are poping up in growth areas. When was the last time a new school was built out there that was 5A?

[LP-79]

D-Train once again your infantile postings are way off track. East Texas is not a dead or dying area. The growth in East Texas is on the increase. Maybe not on par with Dallas or Austin but it is very much on the positive side. By the way this dead area had or has 6 teams in the State finals. If you are just spouting hate toward other teams do all us a favor and delete your account. Now if you want to discuss or argue over which team is better then go for it. You know there is a saying that fits you to a tee. " GROW UP OR GET OUT"

[d-train]

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Lobomania (http://www.statesman.com/sitelife/content/sitelife/persona.html?newspaperUserId=9731001&plckUserId=9731001) wrote:

Lake Travis is going to be shocked, they run over schools in the central and south Texas that are weak and lack speed. They do not play the Dallas Carter's, Allen's, or North Texas power teams. They have not seen smash mouth football and serious speed. They are a bunch of rich kids that are overrated. Gilber is great but that is where it begins and ends. 29 Game winning streak is over. Longview is going to smack LT in the mouth and ruin your season. Your Defense is a joke. Now with all due respect the Offense led by Gilbert is strong and achored by Kelly is the real deal. However how can you win if the Offense is not on the field. The weakest link is the Defense. You had a good run and now it is over!
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[LP-79]

I love how D-Train just replys to posts he thinks make him look good. You look up loser in Dictionary and dang a picture of D-Train. You can put down parts of our State or Posters but can't carry on a decent arguement on merits of different teams. You :Censor: Loser

[HomeofChampions'06]

It's going to be back and forth football. I'd say Lake Travis has the better defense but if this gets to be a shoot out it could be anyone's game for the taking.

Lake Travis 56
Longview 45

[LP-79]

It's going to be back and forth football. I'd say Lake Travis has the better defense but if this gets to be a shoot out it could be anyone's game for the taking.

Lake Travis 56
Longview 45

I thought Longviews defense was very good but last 2 games make you wonder. Only good thing for Longview is they have had to play 4 full quarters of football a lot of games. If it is close in fourth quarter I look for them to pull it out.

[HomeofChampions'06]

I thought Longviews defense was very good but last 2 games make you wonder. Only good thing for Longview is they have had to play 4 full quarters of football a lot of games. If it is close in fourth quarter I look for them to pull it out.

I hope you are right. It would be great for Longview to win a title! I think that Garrett Gilbert is going to eat that defense alive though. He has just picked apart everyone he has come across all season.

[LP-79]

I hope you are right. It would be great for Longview to win a title! I think that Garrett Gilbert is going to eat that defense alive though. He has just picked apart everyone he has come across all season.

Only way I see Longview winning is to eat him alive on pass rush. If they sit back and try to cover wide recievers it will be a long day for them. Go with 3 down linemen but blitz from weak side every play. Plus have long time consuming drives when they are on offense. He can't beat you sitting on the bench.

[HomeofChampions'06]

Only way I see Longview winning is to eat him alive on pass rush. If they sit back and try to cover wide recievers it will be a long day for them. Go with 3 down linemen but blitz from weak side every play. Plus have long time consuming drives when they are on offense. He can't beat you sitting on the bench.

I know these are completely different teams and styles but that is exactly how Katy beat SLC in 2003 & how Westlake stayed with SLC in the first half of the 2006 game. Longview has to grind it out and win all of the little battles. If they pressure Garrett the whole game, I guarantee you they will force an INT and those are hard to come by with this Lake Travis team. He hasn't gotten any pressure all year. He's had decades to throw the ball while he's been back in the pocket. I think you make a very valid point that if they don't blitz the weak side they won't get anywhere. Gilbert will pick apart the defense all day long. I think this has the potential of being a classic game, but if Longview doesn't take control early it could be very ugly in the end.

[Wypirates03]

From what I've seen of Longview...

Lake Travis wins 45-21

[bowiedawgs01]

Go cavs!!!

[DocRJ]

I've seen the Lobos the last three games and seen Travis a couple of times this year. Longview will have to played a mistake free, perfect game to have a chance. If the Lobos make a mistake or two Travis will pounce and they'll be down by 14 to 21 at which point the game plan goes out the window. Cavs 55 -14

[E-Vol-ution]

I think Longview is a little more battle tested and ready.....but I like that kid Gilbert. Should be a really good game.

[2smooth07]

Longview keep Gilbert off the field with the power running game...get in you Okie look and mix it up with different looks and hit him and make him taste the turf a little and think you guys can get em'...

[LoboFan07]

I thought Longviews defense was very good but last 2 games make you wonder.

The last two games, they've been on the field the entire game.

Guyer had the ball 73 snaps to Longview's 32...and we still put up 41 points. Longview the ball five snaps in the first quarter.

I'm a Lobo fan, so obviously I'm biased. But I'm confident in Coach King and Aaron Johnson getting this game won for the Lobos.

[Shamu85]

Even if you do get a rush on Gilbert, he can run on you anyway. He had over 130 yards rushing against Friendswood. I have seen LT, not seen Longview, but have seen Stony Point, and LT might be just as good as the Tigers. Their defense is very underrated, and their offense is probably the best in the state. Their 2nd team was in the game by the 3rd series of the 3rd quarter against Friendswood. The only thing that might keep Longview in this game is that LT's D does not defend the run as well as they do the pass.

BTW, that Westwood game was the 1st game of the season, and LT had their 2nd team in agains Evangel in the 4th qtr. While LT's schedule my not have been as tough as Longview's, they have also easily dispatched pretty much everyon they have played.

LT 55
Longview 28

[Stuck_In_The_Middle]

go longview and who has LT really played worth talking about they had the easiest road to state in 4A like Katy in 5A

Come on bro, anyone who has played into the last 2 weeks of the playoffs would qualify as a "worthy opponent" and LT has smoked them all. I understand the fact that Lobo fans feel slighted, but you can't write off a good team like LT just because you have never heard of their opponents.

Tell me about how Longview is going to stop the LT Offense, not how LT's offense is not worthy because they stomped a Regional Champion that YOU have never heard of.

[d-train]

Even if you do get a rush on Gilbert, he can run on you anyway. He had over 130 yards rushing against Friendswood. I have seen LT, not seen Longview, but have seen Stony Point, and LT might be just as good as the Tigers. Their defense is very underrated, and their offense is probably the best in the state. Their 2nd team was in the game by the 3rd series of the 3rd quarter against Friendswood. The only thing that might keep Longview in this game is that LT's D does not defend the run as well as they do the pass.

BTW, that Westwood game was the 1st game of the season, and LT had their 2nd team in agains Evangel in the 4th qtr. While LT's schedule my not have been as tough as Longview's, they have also easily dispatched pretty much everyon they have played.

LT 55
Longview 28
Steele is the best team that LT has played, they had size and speed. They controlled the ball and put heat on Gilbert, but LT adjusted and shut them down in the second half. LT's defense is a 4-4/4-2-5, but they usually have big leads and get to just pin their ears back and pass rush and pick off passes. Most teams are affraid to rush Gilbert, because they don't wanna give up big plays, but rushing 3 and dropping 8 just gets you ran on and allows LT to eat up the clock. LT's defense was winded because of their hurry up offense, but your offense better put the points up. LT's offense isn't better vs the pass, it's just that folks are FORCED to pass because they are ALWAYS chasing the Cavs.

State ranked Cibolo Steele, only lost after they lost their big 205 lb sophmore RB. Very talented and fast
Westlake Chaps, perennial playoff team and state power from Region 4
Cedar Park Timberwolves, playoff team from 14/16-5A, one of 5A toughest districts
Evangel, LA state power
12-0 Alice Coyotes
Pflugerville Hendrickson, 4A D2 quarterfinalist
Killeen, 4A D1 quarterfinalist
Friendswood Mustangs, Region 3 champions from the very strong 23/24-4A with LaMarque, Texas City and beat 2007 state champs Lamar Consolidated

LT has run the gauntlet! They beat Killeen twice and 3 state quarterfinalists, including a 5A D1 team, and a LA state finalist and a Region 3 champion! GET REAL, the Cavs are rolling!

[jgmike101]

This is the Ultimate test for LT this is the first time they face a team with real talent, raw ability, and great coaching Longview isn't Pflugerville Hendrickson i'll withhold my picks for friday :D

[d-train]

This is the Ultimate test for LT this is the first time they face a team with real talent, raw ability, and great coaching Longview isn't Pflugerville Hendrickson i'll withhold my picks for friday :D
Cibolo Steele has FAR more size and speed=talent than Longview!

[mcneilmav]

Steele is the best team that LT has played, they had size and speed. They controlled the ball and put heat on Gilbert, but LT adjusted and shut them down in the second half. LT's defense is a 4-4/4-2-5, but they usually have big leads and get to just pin their ears back and pass rush and pick off passes. Most teams are affraid to rush Gilbert, because they don't wanna give up big plays, but rushing 3 and dropping 8 just gets you ran on and allows LT to eat up the clock. LT's defense was winded because of their hurry up offense, but your offense better put the points up. LT's offense isn't better vs the pass, it's just that folks are FORCED to pass because they are ALWAYS chasing the Cavs.

State ranked Cibolo Steele, only lost after they lost their big 205 lb sophmore RB. Very talented and fast
Westlake Chaps, perennial playoff team and state power from Region 4
Cedar Park Timberwolves, playoff team from 14/16-5A, one of 5A toughest districts
Evangel, LA state power
12-0 Alice Coyotes
Pflugerville Hendrickson, 4A D2 quarterfinalist
Killeen, 4A D1 quarterfinalist
Friendswood Mustangs, Region 3 champions from the very strong 23/24-4A with LaMarque, Texas City and beat 2007 state champs Lamar Consolidated

LT has run the gauntlet!

My lowly (12-1) Alice Coyotes with no D1 recruits or size or speed, from that football wilderness known as South Texas, put up 32 on the mighty Cavs. I believe no team this season, not even that Evangel squad managed that. Couldn't stop that Gilbert kid though. Doubt Longview will either. Lake Travis 45 Lobos 21. Let's see if Longview eclipses Alice's point total.

[OilCan]

This is the Ultimate test for LT this is the first time they face a team with real talent, raw ability, and great coaching Longview isn't Pflugerville Hendrickson i'll withhold my picks for friday :D

You and your fellow Lobos need to step away from the Kool-aid and take the green shades off to prepare yourselves for the butt kicking to come Saturday. So assume the position and watch the Lobos go down big by at least 25+ points.

[Pinion]

Sure is going to be a lot of crow in need of eating after Longview rolls the crap outta LT.

I am no Longview fan by any stretch of the imagination, but LakeTravis is going to have their hands full and I dont think they'll be able to handle it. Evangels D is pretty strong and they were in Gilberts face most of the game. I dont think they ever got in the backfield against Longview.
Longview is fast and tough. I just dont see LT being able to hang around. I could be wrong, but I just dont see it.
The only thing that could sway is that we're looking at 2 completely different styles of game. LT strikes fast, but are they faster than Longview? I dont see it. Longview strikes fast because they're just that damn fast.

I'll prolly be at the game, plan on sitting on the LT side though as the Longview fans and myself have a very colourful history. Anyone else planning on being there?

[Aggies2009]

You Lake Travis people have hardly any class. First we get to hear d-train's ignorance and watch him embarrass himself. Now this OilCan guy, and then there's this:

http://longviewlobosforum16199.yuku.com/topic/1331

[Pinion]

And one other thing I'd like to add in here. If Gilbert werent a UT commit, LT would have at least one loss on their record for the year so far.
I'm not one to stand and accuse generally, but after seeing some of the calls when a defense has gotten to him, it really makes you wonder who's paying the refs for the games.

[Aggies2009]

And one other thing I'd like to add in here. If Gilbert werent a UT commit, LT would have at least one loss on their record for the year so far.
I'm not one to stand and accuse generally, but after seeing some of the calls when a defense has gotten to him, it really makes you wonder who's paying the refs for the games.

I don't know about all THAT...

[chop44]

I was a LT doubter earlier in the year but they are the real deal. Longview is also a great program and Pville was fortunate to get by them last year. I see this as a very close high scoring game. Team with the ball last might will probably win. Best of luck to both teams. I can't believe I live close to LT and have never seen Gilbert play. Have spoken to many very highly regarded football knowledge folks and they say he is one of the best HS QBs to come around in 10 years or so.

[SLC]

My lowly (12-1) Alice Coyotes with no D1 recruits or size or speed, from that football wilderness known as South Texas, put up 32 on the mighty Cavs. I believe no team this season, not even that Evangel squad managed that. Couldn't stop that Gilbert kid though. Doubt Longview will either. Lake Travis 45 Lobos 21. Let's see if Longview eclipses Alice's point total.

That is correct, the 32 by Alice was the most put on them this season.. Though ECA put up 31.

[SLC]

Sure is going to be a lot of crow in need of eating after Longview rolls the crap outta LT.

I am no Longview fan by any stretch of the imagination, but LakeTravis is going to have their hands full and I dont think they'll be able to handle it. Evangels D is pretty strong and they were in Gilberts face most of the game. I dont think they ever got in the backfield against Longview.
Longview is fast and tough. I just dont see LT being able to hang around. I could be wrong, but I just dont see it.
The only thing that could sway is that we're looking at 2 completely different styles of game. LT strikes fast, but are they faster than Longview? I dont see it. Longview strikes fast because they're just that damn fast.

I'll prolly be at the game, plan on sitting on the LT side though as the Longview fans and myself have a very colourful history. Anyone else planning on being there?

They were indeed in Garrett's face most of the game. I would contend that the strong ECA "D" must have forgot to show up for the game actually.

Lets play the "did ya know" game.

Did ya know that so far this season the game against ECA was Garrett's best game, yardage wise..

He went 25-41 for 414 yds 5 tds and 0 ints.

[SLC]

And one other thing I'd like to add in here. If Gilbert werent a UT commit, LT would have at least one loss on their record for the year so far.
I'm not one to stand and accuse generally, but after seeing some of the calls when a defense has gotten to him, it really makes you wonder who's paying the refs for the games.

I'm guessing you are talking about the LT/ECA game?

[Pinion]

They were indeed in Garrett's face most of the game. I would contend that the strong ECA "D" must have forgot to show up for the game actually.

Lets play the "did ya know" game.

Did ya know that so far this season the game against ECA was Garrett's best game, yardage wise..

He went 25-41 for 414 yds 5 tds and 0 ints.

It should have been. The refs were making sure he didnt get a chipped nail. Geez...:D
After the 1st quarter ECA's defense was scared to after him for fear of a penalty. On a serious note, Ima see if I can get a film of the game and let you watch it. Imean, I see things one way because I'm an ECA homer and I know this. But I do try to be objective. It was a poorly officiated game and I believe had the game not been played in Texas or at least had the UT coaching staff kept thier arse off the sidelines, it would have been a much closer game.
Anyway. this isnt the time..haha.. I do wanna try to get a film of that game though. I'd be curious to hear what you have to say about the game as a whole.

So back to the point at hand though. Longview is gonna run all over your boy and make him cry. You ought to try and come down to Waco if you can get freed up Sat. Should really be a heckuva game.

[SLC]

It should have been. The refs were making sure he didnt get a chipped nail. Geez...:D
After the 1st quarter ECA's defense was scared to after him for fear of a penalty. On a serious note, Ima see if I can get a film of the game and let you watch it. Imean, I see things one way because I'm an ECA homer and I know this. But I do try to be objective. It was a poorly officiated game and I believe had the game not been played in Texas or at least had the UT coaching staff kept thier arse off the sidelines, it would have been a much closer game.
Anyway. this isnt the time..haha.. I do wanna try to get a film of that game though. I'd be curious to hear what you have to say about the game as a whole.

So back to the point at hand though. Longview is gonna run all over your boy and make him cry. You ought to try and come down to Waco if you can get freed up Sat. Should really be a heckuva game.



Man you are killing me here.. So, you were talking about the LT/ECA game, as it pertains to officiating... The next "did you know" game...

Did you know that the game against ECA was the lowest penalty game for an opponent.. And that they had 3 fewer penalties than LT did.

ECA-3 penalties for 25 yards

LT-6 penalties for 80 yards.

[mcneilmav]

They were indeed in Garrett's face most of the game. I would contend that the strong ECA "D" must have forgot to show up for the game actually.

Lets play the "did ya know" game.

Did ya know that so far this season the game against ECA was Garrett's best game, yardage wise..

He went 25-41 for 414 yds 5 tds and 0 ints.

I've seen some pretty good high school qbs over the years... the Detmer brothers, Drew Brees, the Griffin kid from Cove, now at Baylor. Gilbert rates highest against any of them at this point in their careers imo. I'm sure the Lobos are working on a plan to contain him--good luck.;)

[d-train]

I've seen some pretty good high school qbs over the years... the Detmer brothers, Drew Brees, the Griffin kid from Cove, now at Baylor. Gilbert rates highest against any of them at this point in their careers imo. I'm sure the Lobos are working on a plan to contain him--good luck.;)
You never saw Nick Foles, Todd Reesing, Kingsbury, Hall at Westlake, Schroeder, VY, Reggie McNeal, Wilbur Odom, Jay Rodgers, Charles Keane, Mark Murdock, Mark Mangum, Jimmy Saxton, Louis Hickman, Jimmy Moore...

[mcneilmav]

You never saw Nick Foles, Todd Reesing, Kingsbury, Hall at Westlake, Schroeder, VY, Reggie McNeal, Wilbur Odom, Jay Rodgers, Charles Keane, Mark Murdock, Mark Mangum, Jimmy Saxton, Louis Hickman, Jimmy Moore...

Well... I have seen Foles, Reesing, Kingbury at Tech, Adam Hall/Westlake and McNeal. I'd have to say the Gilbert kid rates high against any of 'em. JMO.

[kalanj]

Gilbert is no better than Ryan Mallett

[d-train]

Gilbert is no better than Ryan Mallett
The stats and the state titles say DIFFERENT! Mallett was big and had a cannon arm, 6'7" 240 lbs, Gilbert is 6'4" 205 and runs a 4.8 and has some mobility and is about to win title #2. How many titles did Mallett win as a starter?

[kalanj]

its alot of players who has or had great high school stats but that doesn't mean anything when you go to college. you praise gilbert if hes the best thing to ever come out of texas and you and I both know hes not

[mcneilmav]

Gilbert is no better than Ryan Mallett

That's pretty damn good company.

[SLC]

Gilbert is no better than Ryan Mallett

How do you know this?

[picperp]

This is the Ultimate test for LT this is the first time they face a team with real talent, raw ability, and great coaching Longview isn't Pflugerville Hendrickson i'll withhold my picks for friday :D

LT's the real deal. I didn't believe till I saw them beat Westlake and Cedar Park, two good, physical and well-coached 5A teams.

I'm an Austin guy so I want to see another CenTex champion, but then I see this: http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/austin/varsitynews/entries/2008/12/15/lake_travis_not.html

It's almost enough to make me root for the Lobos. Almost.

[SLC]

LT's the real deal. I didn't believe till I saw them beat Westlake and Cedar Park, two good, physical and well-coached 5A teams.

I'm an Austin guy so I want to see another CenTex champion, but then I see this: http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/austin/varsitynews/entries/2008/12/15/lake_travis_not.html

It's almost enough to make me root for the Lobos. Almost.



I'm not exactly getting what would make you almost root for the Lobo's after reading that article... Shed a little light on it for me.

[mcneilmav]

LT's the real deal. I didn't believe till I saw them beat Westlake and Cedar Park, two good, physical and well-coached 5A teams.

I'm an Austin guy so I want to see another CenTex champion, but then I see this: http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/austin/varsitynews/entries/2008/12/15/lake_travis_not.html

It's almost enough to make me root for the Lobos. Almost.


Yeah. Our boys have one of those nice indoor facilities here at McNeil. We call it a gym. ;)

[mcneilmav]

I'm not exactly getting what would make you almost root for the Lobo's after reading that article... Shed a little light on it for me.

It's a local thing. Just poking fun at the "haves" up at the lake. It's all good. Go Cavs!

[Shamu85]

Pinion, I don't know what your ECA penalty accuasation is based on. My understanding is that ECA was constantly hitting late and talking smack the whole game, and as SLCisbetter's data shows, the accuasation just really has no merit. And btw, ECA scored 31, but LT's 2nd team was in most of the 4th qtr.

Alice was able to score on LT because of their strong running game, which Longview definitely has. However, as good as Midway was (probably the 3rd best 4A team in the state), LT's offense is MUCH better, and Midway put up 42 on Longview. LT can strike quickly, but their offensive style still wears out defenses because they don't get a chance to get set between plays. If LT forces a few punts, they can quickly wear out the Longview D. LT's D normally owns the 2nd half, except in the Alice game when several crucial penalties LT got on Alice's opening drive of the 2nd half allowed them to maintain some of the momentum they got from a late 1st half score.

Aggies, apparently that thread is no longer available on the Lobos forum. I wouldn't judge "Lake Travis people" based on a bulletin board thread.

[LoboFan07]

LT's the real deal. I didn't believe till I saw them beat Westlake and Cedar Park, two good, physical and well-coached 5A teams.

I'm an Austin guy so I want to see another CenTex champion, but then I see this: http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/austin/varsitynews/entries/2008/12/15/lake_travis_not.html

It's almost enough to make me root for the Lobos. Almost.

“Teams that don’t have this, it might be tougher for them to come in and get things done.”

I actually lol'd when I read that.

The only real question I have is has Lake Travis seen the speed that Longview has? I know nothing about the teams down South so thought I'd ask here.

[LoneRocket]

I was a non-believer and they are that good. I went to see them play twice and Coach Jinks at Steele had the best game plan against them, but if you do not step on them from start to finish you are not going to beat them they scored on Steele in less than a minute.

[d-train]

“Teams that don’t have this, it might be tougher for them to come in and get things done.”

I actually lol'd when I read that.

The only real question I have is has Lake Travis seen the speed that Longview has? I know nothing about the teams down South so thought I'd ask here.
Steele, Killeen, Hendrickson, Hutto are all FAST! Austin speed is pretty good, considering all the Texas Relays and state meet trophies the kids at Reagan, LBJ, P-ville, and even Leander (5A mile relay champs) have from beating folks from else where.

[Pinion]

Pinion, I don't know what your ECA penalty accuasation is based on. My understanding is that ECA was constantly hitting late and talking smack the whole game, and as SLCisbetter's data shows, the accuasation just really has no merit. And btw, ECA scored 31, but LT's 2nd team was in most of the 4th qtr.



I shouldnt have mentioned the ECA game at all because this thread really isnt about that. But I'm telling you what I saw with my own eyes. The officials decided that game. Or at least they made certain that ECA stayed out of it. It wasnt so much the penalty calls (although they did make sure ECA knew not to touch Gilbert). It was the 2 refs saying not an interception and a ref coming from the LT sideline and saying that it was. That kind of thing.
Anyway. This really isnt the thread to talk about it. The game is over now and LT won it.
And Longview is going to roll LT this weekend and it wont matter. :D

[ATXChap07]

Wilbur Odom, Jay Rodgers, Charles Keane, Mark Murdock, Mark Mangum, Jimmy Saxton, Louis Hickman, Jimmy Moore...

who?

[picperp]

For an avatar with a Westlake helmet, I hope that's a joke:)

[picperp]

I'm not exactly getting what would make you almost root for the Lobo's after reading that article... Shed a little light on it for me.
So says the SLC faithful:)

Just poking fun, like someone else said. I'm looking for another Austin title.

[d-train]

Originally Posted by d-train http://www.5atexasfootball.com/forum/vB/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.5atexasfootball.com/forum/vB/showthread.php?p=1061454#post1061454)
Wilbur Odom, Jay Rodgers, Charles Keane, Mark Murdock, Mark Mangum, Jimmy Saxton, Louis Hickman, Jimmy Moore...

All QBs in bold are from Westlake! Odom played for SA Holmes and Hickman and Moore played at Austin Reagan.

[ATXChap07]

Originally Posted by d-train http://www.5atexasfootball.com/forum/vB/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.5atexasfootball.com/forum/vB/showthread.php?p=1061454#post1061454)
Wilbur Odom, Jay Rodgers, Charles Keane, Mark Murdock, Mark Mangum, Jimmy Saxton, Louis Hickman, Jimmy Moore...

All QBs in bold are from Westlake! Odom played for SA Holmes and Hickman and Moore played at Austin Reagan.

it was a joke bro

[BandidoNB]

Longview will come out shooting and will do impressively in the 1st half... but I expect Lake Travis to pull away in the 2nd. Kind of like the Steele game.


Austin Lake Travis wins in double digits 38-28.

[SLC]

And Longview is going to roll LT this weekend and it wont matter. :D

Not so fast my friend. LT will be crowned champions on Saturday, Longview can try again next season.:cool:

[Legacy44]

Lake Travis will win but it will be CLOSE.

[skyblueice04]

I'm trying to figure out how SLC can sit here and down Longview and say we are going to loose as if Southlake is playing for a title on Saturday. Would be different if your team was in the finals then you could talk noise. Until then keep the balls bouncing.

[SLC]

I'm trying to figure out how SLC can sit here and down Longview and say we are going to loose as if Southlake is playing for a title on Saturday. Would be different if your team was in the finals then you could talk noise. Until then keep the balls bouncing.

Keep figuring...

1. I havent downed Longview at all.

2. I believe LT is better... if you care to debate it, then lets roll.

3. So when you started this thread you only intended for people who had teams still playing to reply.. And you did this on a 5A site.. RIIIIIGHT.

Quit cry sweetheart.. it'll be ok. Lets debate the facts.

[Pinion]

Keep figuring...

1. I havent downed Longview at all.

2. I believe LT is better... if you care to debate it, then lets roll.

3. So when you started this thread you only intended for people who had teams still playing to reply.. And you did this on a 5A site.. RIIIIIGHT.

Quit cry sweetheart.. it'll be ok. Lets debate the facts.

1: That's true. You havent done that.
2: Sometimes what we believe and what reality are, are 2 different things. But it's ok. We all need to have faith in something. My shoulder will be here for you Saturday afternoon when LT goes down and you need one to cry on.
3: I'm staying outta that one.. lol

[SLC]

1: That's true. You havent done that.
2: Sometimes what we believe and what reality are, are 2 different things. But it's ok. We all need to have faith in something. My shoulder will be here for you Saturday afternoon when LT goes down and you need one to cry on.
3: I'm staying outta that one.. lol

I believe LT is better... We shall find out Saturday. One thing you know about good ole SLC is if he was wrong, he will man up and admit it.




Good thing I wont have to... LT rolls.:cool:

[Pinion]

I believe LT is better... We shall find out Saturday. One thing you know about good ole SLC is if he was wrong, he will man up and admit it.




Good thing I wont have to... LT rolls.:cool:



are you coming down for the game? Sure would kool if you could. But I wont hate if you cant make it.

[SLC]

are you coming down for the game? Sure would kool if you could. But I wont hate if you cant make it.

I cant make it.. Gotta be at work. I will be listening on the radio though.

[Pinion]

I cant make it.. Gotta be at work. I will be listening on the radio though.

Ah. That's too bad. At least you'll be able to listen though.

[SLC]

Longview!

FAIL. hahaha.:p

:D

[LP-79]

Really impressed with LT today. They were much better team. I thought after Longview hit them in the mouth once or twice LT would lose their swagger, didn't happen! They just got up and hit Longview back harder. WTG Lake Travis! I look for Longview to come storming back next year with a preseason #1 ranking in 4A.