Most impressive statistic on Plano and SLC

[PawPower]

I love football and would not miss this weekend's game for anything. But regardless of the outcome of the game, both of these schools have already won in a more important way:

Average SAT score in 2004:

Plano Sr. - 1153 SLC - 1118

Both numbers are way above the national average. Very impressive! Congratulations to the students at both schools.

[LoneStarProud]

Just think how high those scores would be if they didn't have to include football players in the average. JK of course.

[berkner]

:p i dont get it... what did they win?:p

[dragonsdaddy]

the first step down the road to a successful life.

[ktchamp97]

I love football and would not miss this weekend's game for anything. But regardless of the outcome of the game, both of these schools have already won in a more important way:

Average SAT score in 2004:

Plano Sr. - 1153 SLC - 1118

Both numbers are way above the national average. Very impressive! Congratulations to the students at both schools.

Those are amazing numbers!

I once had a guy ask me, in a formal interview, "What did you score on your SAT?"

I replied, "{insert a number here}"

He then said...deadpan..."Was that before or after they dumbed it down?" :eek:

I said, immediately, "I wasn't aware that they had, sir."

He then had me take the Wunderlich test and wouldn't give me my score. I was never happier not to receive an offer.

I do think the SAT and GPA's get too much attention, but this isn't the time, nor the place. Regardless, the kids at SLC and Plano are doing a GREAT job and they are really helping themselves out.

[Butch Fifield]

I am very surprised that Plano is ahead in that department and by that much.

Usually the wealthier the school, the higher those numbers are.

[PawPower]

I am very surprised that Plano is ahead in that department and by that much.

Usually the wealthier the school, the higher those numbers are.


A lot of different factors contribute to academic success.

Wealth? Plano has a higher per capita tax base than SLC (SLC-$481K versus PISD-$531K).

Plano Sr. zone average home is $289K not as high as SLC, but not exactly poor (Plano West is around $540K, East zone around $180K, but rising fast due to new development).

Plano has a larger and more established AP program (Plano Sr. has highest AP pass rate in the state of Texas per D magazine article – 82%).

Plano ISD can afford to spend more on curriculum development than any other ISD in the state by virtue of being largest property wealthy school in state.

[PlanoNative]

Going out on a limb here but I'm guessing Plano has a ton more asian students. And it's no secret they score VERY high on SAT's and everything else.

[PawPower]

Going out on a limb here but I'm guessing Plano has a ton more asian students. And it's no secret they score VERY high on SAT's and everything else.


I think Plano Sr. has an Asian population of about 12% (similar to Coppell by the way). It may also explain why the National Music Educators Association has picked either Plano Sr. or Plano East orchestras as the best high school orchestra in the nation 3 of the last 5 years. You can not win back-to-back years, hence they have rotated between Plano and East. Several Asian friends tell me they choose PISD because of its hard academics and its requirement that all students take some form of fine arts during middle school.

[BAMF cowboy]

this thread just made me feel good about myself because im WAY above average! go dragoncrew!

[Dragon20]

I think the most impressive facts of the article are

Plano - 106 yrs old - 1 undefeated season - 7 Rings

Southlake - 44yrs old - 5 undefeated seasons - 5 Rings and another on the way

[BAMF cowboy]

that is rather impressive

[Butch Fifield]

All Plano's rings have come in the last 40 years. Actually they came in 30 years between 1965 & 1994.

[PawPower]

All Plano's rings have come in the last 40 years. Actually they came in 30 years between 1965 & 1994.

What other national records does Plano Sr. hold?

Most AP credits awarded in a single year.

Most students to receive full scholarship to MIT in a single graduating class (public or private high school) - 7 in 2003.

[dragons08]

this thread just made me feel good about myself because im WAY above average! go dragoncrew!
dc06, im curious what colleges you applying for?

[Dragon20]

Southlake has

5 State Championships in 17 Seasons
11 State Semifinal Appearances in 18 Seasons
233 Wins in Past 20 Seasons (1986-2005) - Most of any team in the State
72 Consecutive Regular Season Wins (1986-1994) - UIL State Record
102-3-1 record from 1987-1993
58-1-0 record from 2002-2005 (as of 11/17/05)
Increased from 1A to 5A in 22 years : Moved from 1A to 2A in 1980, 2A to 3A in 1986, 3A to 4A in 1994, 4A to 5A in 2002
Winning % #9. 5-5A Southlake Carroll (379-126-8) 74.66%

Plano has

7-time State Champions in 1965 (2A), 1967 (2A), 1971 (3A), 1977 (4A), 1986 (5A), 1987 (5A) and 1994 (5A div-1) - UIL State Record (tie)
36 Consecutive Winning Seasons (1960-1995) - UIL State Record
Increased from 1A to 5A in 22 years: moved from 1A to 2A in 1958, 2A to 3A in 1968, 3A to 4A in 1972, 4A to 5A in 1980
Winning % # 21. 8-5A Plano (679-292-47) 69.01%

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Southlake List is longer with a shorter amount of time

[PawPower]

Southlake has

5 State Championships in 17 Seasons
11 State Semifinal Appearances in 18 Seasons
233 Wins in Past 20 Seasons (1986-2005) - Most of any team in the State
72 Consecutive Regular Season Wins (1986-1994) - UIL State Record
102-3-1 record from 1987-1993
58-1-0 record from 2002-2005 (as of 11/17/05)
Increased from 1A to 5A in 22 years : Moved from 1A to 2A in 1980, 2A to 3A in 1986, 3A to 4A in 1994, 4A to 5A in 2002
Winning % #9. 5-5A Southlake Carroll (379-126-8) 74.66%

Plano has

7-time State Champions in 1965 (2A), 1967 (2A), 1971 (3A), 1977 (4A), 1986 (5A), 1987 (5A) and 1994 (5A div-1) - UIL State Record (tie)
36 Consecutive Winning Seasons (1960-1995) - UIL State Record
Increased from 1A to 5A in 22 years: moved from 1A to 2A in 1958, 2A to 3A in 1968, 3A to 4A in 1972, 4A to 5A in 1980
Winning % # 21. 8-5A Plano (679-292-47) 69.01%

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Southlake List is longer with a shorter amount of time

Plano has:

State Championships Won

Plano is tied with Brownwood for the most state football championships won by a single team. Both schools have 7 state championship trophies.


Playoff Appearances

The following is a listing of Class 5A teams making the most playoff appearances:

AAAAA
Amarillo 43
Plano 41
Temple 35
Houston Yates 30
Baytown Lee 28
Longview 28

Plano’s (41) playoff appearances by year:

1934,35,36,39,40,46,47,51,61,64,65,66,67,68,70,71, 72,73,74,75,
77,78,79,80,82,83,84,86,87,88,90,91,92,93,94,95,96 ,98,99,2000,01


Largest High School Football Crowd

In 1977 Plano won its fourth state championship against Port Neches Grove. The game was played at Texas Stadium in Irving before a national record attendance of 49,953. This record still stands to this day.

Need more? http://www.planowildcats.org/page10.html

[drgnbkr]

Plano has:

State Championships Won

Plano is tied with Brownwood for the most state football championships won by a single team. Both schools have 7 state championship trophies.


Playoff Appearances

The following is a listing of Class 5A teams making the most playoff appearances:

AAAAA
Amarillo 43
Plano 41
Temple 35
Houston Yates 30
Baytown Lee 28
Longview 28

Plano’s (41) playoff appearances by year:

1934,35,36,39,40,46,47,51,61,64,65,66,67,68,70,71, 72,73,74,75,
77,78,79,80,82,83,84,86,87,88,90,91,92,93,94,95,96 ,98,99,2000,01


Largest High School Football Crowd

In 1977 Plano won its fourth state championship against Port Neches Grove. The game was played at Texas Stadium in Irving before a national record attendance of 49,953. This record still stands to this day.

Need more?

Your Cats might need more Saturday...:D

[yankee]

dc06, im curious what colleges you applying for?
hopefully not illinois...

[dragons08]

hopefully not illinois...
hopefully not valperiasio, i bet he never heard of it...

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

Southlake has

5 State Championships in 17 Seasons
11 State Semifinal Appearances in 18 Seasons
233 Wins in Past 20 Seasons (1986-2005) - Most of any team in the State
72 Consecutive Regular Season Wins (1986-1994) - UIL State Record
102-3-1 record from 1987-1993
58-1-0 record from 2002-2005 (as of 11/17/05)
Increased from 1A to 5A in 22 years : Moved from 1A to 2A in 1980, 2A to 3A in 1986, 3A to 4A in 1994, 4A to 5A in 2002
Winning % #9. 5-5A Southlake Carroll (379-126-8) 74.66%

Plano has

7-time State Champions in 1965 (2A), 1967 (2A), 1971 (3A), 1977 (4A), 1986 (5A), 1987 (5A) and 1994 (5A div-1) - UIL State Record (tie)
36 Consecutive Winning Seasons (1960-1995) - UIL State Record
Increased from 1A to 5A in 22 years: moved from 1A to 2A in 1958, 2A to 3A in 1968, 3A to 4A in 1972, 4A to 5A in 1980
Winning % # 21. 8-5A Plano (679-292-47) 69.01%

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Southlake List is longer with a shorter amount of time

Yeah, Plano has more Playoff victories in the state than anybody with 84. Collectivey the team has 679 victories only one other school has more. It's not Southlake.

[PawPower]

Yeah, Plano has more Playoff victories in the state than anybody with 84. Collectivey the team has 679 victories only one other school has more. It's not Southlake.

Nice info!

Isn’t Plano the oldest public school football program in the state? I know its one of the two or three oldest.

[FeeltheHaka]

Thank You for posting this! Now I have more ammo. when people are shocked at the athletic spending, and I have to defend it.

[dragonfootballfan]

Thank You for posting this! Now I have more ammo. when people are shocked at the athletic spending, and I have to defend it.
the correlation of athletics to academics has been debated many times. During Plano's 0-10 season I am sure that they still had those high SAT scores. I am not yet completely sold on it being a strong correlation, but this definitely helps those that try to show that it improves academics

[PESHfan]

Going out on a limb here but I'm guessing Plano has a ton more asian students. And it's no secret they score VERY high on SAT's and everything else.

Actually, I would bet that Plano West has the highest Asian % population of the three Senior Highs. Just look at the list of Commended and Semi-finalists for National Merit. The Plano West list is better than 50% Asian.

My son graduated from PESH with a 1440 on his SAT! (Perfect math score on both SAT I and II). Commended Scholar. Academic Decathalon team which finished 10th in State of Texas. Full scholarship at UTD. Took his computer programming team to 2nd place at Regional competition at LSU. Beat out those lesser schools like A & M, OU and UT. Will find out any time now if they go on to compete at the World Finals next Spring! Was in both the Dallas Morning News and Plano Star Courier this week. I'm a very proud Mommy!

Plano has extremely smart and talented kids at ALL of their schools!

[PESHfan]

Nice info!

Isn’t Plano the oldest public school football program in the state? I know its one of the two or three oldest.

Let's remember that Plano HS has been around since 1899! It took 35 years before they made their first play-off appearance. It was another 30 years before they won their first state title.

[PawPower]

Actually, I would bet that Plano West has the highest Asian % population of the three Senior Highs. Just look at the list of Commended and Semi-finalists for National Merit. The Plano West list is better than 50% Asian.

My son graduated from PESH with a 1440 on his SAT! (Perfect math score on both SAT I and II). Commended Scholar. Academic Decathalon team which finished 10th in State of Texas. Full scholarship at UTD. Took his computer programming team to 2nd place at Regional competition at LSU. Beat out those lesser schools like A & M, OU and UT. Will find out any time now if they go on to compete at the World Finals next Spring! Was in both the Dallas Morning News and Plano Star Courier this week. I'm a very proud Mommy!

Plano has extremely smart and talented kids at ALL of their schools!


Very true PESH and West are great schools. I hate the West vesus Central vesus East thing. I cheer for any Plano team until they play each other. Then my order is Plano #1, East #2, West - well sorry they need to grow their own fan base!

A friend's son graduated from East a few years ago. He played on the basketball team that went to state. Three out of four of the varsity players were National Honor Society members. He graduated with a lot of AP credit, went to Texas A&M and majored in Chemical Engineering. He told his dad that his senior year at East was tougher than his freshman year at Texas A&M!

[my3sons]

2 great and storied schools will square off Sat. Plano has so much to be proud of, it is scary. I am impressed by the remarkable turn around from 0-10 to Regional final and 13-0. Truly remarkable. That is not a common achievement. Normally you see a program build a few years before going undefeated. SLC has had another superb year as well. Winning is contagious. No player on SLC wants the winning streak to end on their team. To win 31 consecutive 5A games the first 2 years in 5A was pretty good. Now they've strung together 29 in a row and looking for 30 this weekend. Even money says 30, 31, and 32 come in successive weeks. For a school to win 63 of 64 games in a 4 year period is unprecedented. It is great to compare these 2 great schools. A true fan of high school football appreciates what each school has accomplished. No trash talk on any side should mitigate these 2 outstanding programs. Unfortunately 1 team will advance and 1 team will look to next year.

[PawPower]

the correlation of athletics to academics has been debated many times. During Plano's 0-10 season I am sure that they still had those high SAT scores. I am not yet completely sold on it being a strong correlation, but this definitely helps those that try to show that it improves academics

I would argue that being successful at sports is not necessary to be successful at academics. Coppell and Colleyville have great academics, but are not exactly football powerhouses. There are some schools in the playoffs that have low SAT, ACT, AP scores.

If there is a correlation, I think it has more to do with community involvement. Sucessful sports programs usually have a lot of community support. The same for sucessful schools. I sit across the street from a Plano elementary school with 400 students. At their fall festival they raised over $70K for the school. You could not park on any of the streets in the area because of all the cars. I was very pleased to see that!

[PawPower]

2 great and storied schools will square off Sat. Plano has so much to be proud of, it is scary. I am impressed by the remarkable turn around from 0-10 to Regional final and 13-0. Truly remarkable. That is not a common achievement. Normally you see a program build a few years before going undefeated. SLC has had another superb year as well. Winning is contagious. No player on SLC wants the winning streak to end on their team. To win 31 consecutive 5A games the first 2 years in 5A was pretty good. Now they've strung together 29 in a row and looking for 30 this weekend. Even money says 30, 31, and 32 come in successive weeks. For a school to win 63 of 64 games in a 4 year period is unprecedented. It is great to compare these 2 great schools. A true fan of high school football appreciates what each school has accomplished. No trash talk on any side should mitigate these 2 outstanding programs. Unfortunately 1 team will advance and 1 team will look to next year.


Nice posting. I agree 63 out of 64 is amazing! Plano's longest streak was in 86 and 87. I believe it was 31 games. They have 17 in a row now.

Whoever wins, both groups of fans will get to return home to great schools. I just hope there are no injuries on either side.

[my3sons]

I have to agree with you. Whoever wins Region I will have the other rooting for them to bring the crown home. Nothing makes a season look better than losing to the eventual champion. If that is the only blemish in one's season then the season was extremely positive. Please God, no injuries, just good clean football. Good luck Plano.

[PawPower]

I have to agree with you. Whoever wins Region I will have the other rooting for them to bring the crown home. Nothing makes a season look better than losing to the eventual champion. If that is the only blemish in one's season then the season was extremely positive. Please God, no injuries, just good clean football. Good luck Plano.

Good luck to you guys!