___SA Roosevelt Head Coach Glen Hill Going To Conroe___

[Rerun]

Football: Roosevelt's Hill leaving for Conroe

Web Posted: 11/30/2005 12:00 AM CST


San Antonio Express-News

Glenn Hill, head football coach and athletic coordinator at Roosevelt High School the past nine seasons, has accepted the same dual position at Caney Creek High School in Conroe.

The Rough Riders were 65-35 under Hill and made the playoffs five times, including the Class 4A Division I state semifinals in 2000. They advanced to the 4A Division I state quarterfinals the next year, losing to Smithson Valley, which was coached by Hill's brother, Larry.

"I'm going to miss Roosevelt very much," Glenn Hill said. "This has been an emotional time for me. It was a tough decision to make."

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/hssports/stories/MYSA113005.12C.FBHroosevelt.hill.dd5cc46.html

[lonny23]

Football: Roosevelt's Hill leaving for Conroe

Web Posted: 11/30/2005 12:00 AM CST


San Antonio Express-News

Glenn Hill, head football coach and athletic coordinator at Roosevelt High School the past nine seasons, has accepted the same dual position at Caney Creek High School in Conroe.

The Rough Riders were 65-35 under Hill and made the playoffs five times, including the Class 4A Division I state semifinals in 2000. They advanced to the 4A Division I state quarterfinals the next year, losing to Smithson Valley, which was coached by Hill's brother, Larry.

"I'm going to miss Roosevelt very much," Glenn Hill said. "This has been an emotional time for me. It was a tough decision to make."

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/hssports/stories/MYSA113005.12C.FBHroosevelt.hill.dd5cc46.html
Can we make him take his brother with him as part of the deal?:D

Why go to Caney Creek?

[Rerun]

Can we make him take his brother with him as part of the deal?:D

Why go to Caney Creek?

Why stay at Roosevelt?

The ONLY school that I know of that has security guards maning the entrance to their school 24/7 and has security guards escort opposing teams back to their buses after playing at Roosevelt.

[lonny23]

Why stay at Roosevelt?

The ONLY school that I know of that has security guards maning the entrance to their school 24/7 and has security guards escort opposing teams back to their buses after playing at Roosevelt.
He's going to miss all those fun shopping cart races!:D

[Rerun]

He's going to miss all those fun shopping cart races!:D

Shopping Cart Races = 3-19 seasons

[lonny23]

Why stay at Roosevelt?

The ONLY school that I know of that has security guards maning the entrance to their school 24/7 and has security guards escort opposing teams back to their buses after playing at Roosevelt.
Caney Creek is awful. He must be getting paid well to take over a bad team.

[SeguinMatadors]

Why stay at Roosevelt?

The ONLY school that I know of that has security guards maning the entrance to their school 24/7 and has security guards escort opposing teams back to their buses after playing at Roosevelt.

We played Lanier and that school was GHETTOO. We had guards escort us to our buses. These little Mexican thugs were starting beef and we were close to massacering about 30 of them.

[Rerun]

My junior year, we had a scrimmage against Holy Cross. Their school is in the ghetto as well and as we are on the bus ride over there we are at a stop light.

I look out the window and this vato gives me the finger for no reason.

must have been pissed in advance that we were going to 10 run rule those tools.

[SeguinMatadors]

My junior year, we had a scrimmage against Holy Cross. Their school is in the ghetto as well and as we are on the bus ride over there we are at a stop light.

I look out the window and this vato gives me the finger for no reason.

must have been pissed in advance that we were going to 10 run rule those tools.

LMAO at a vato. But yeah dude, I don't know about some of them little Mexican schools in the ghetto.Them dudes think they are so tough but getting into it with us would have been a terrible mistake. Sorry if that sounds racist.

[lonny23]

We played Lanier and that school was GHETTOO. We had guards escort us to our buses. These little Mexican thugs were starting beef and we were close to massacering about 30 of them.
I used to go down in Apache Courts twice a month and nobody ever bothered me. We were restoring a building one block away from Lanier. We did have somebody get their windshield busted one night over on the main street through the hood.

[Reaganrattler07]

I have a feeling he might've been fired due to the stolen computer incident.

Most people resign before they get fired....

[JC73]

He would probably not already have a job if he was avoiding getting fired. They love him at Roosevelt and will miss him. 265 just got a little weaker.

[Reaganrattler07]

He would probably not already have a job if he was avoiding getting fired. They love him at Roosevelt and will miss him. 265 just got a little weaker.

I don't think North East liked the way he handled the situation and they wouldn't fire him during football season......so they probably said "why don't you find another job, and resign....OR we'll fire you"

And face it, that whole incident has Central Office turning that entire school upside down.

[bubbacoach]

SeguinMatadors Quote:
We played Lanier and that school was GHETTOO. We had guards escort us to our buses. These little Mexican thugs were starting beef and we were close to massacering about 30 of them.
Texas Headliner Quote:
My junior year, we had a scrimmage against Holy Cross. Their school is in the ghetto as well and as we are on the bus ride over there we are at a stop light.
I look out the window and this vato gives me the finger for no reason.
must have been pissed in advance that we were going to 10 run rule those tools.
I am not a politically correct person, but you guys have got to be kidding me. I have taken several teams into the Southside, Lanier, South San, Edgewood, etc. And I have never felt threatened, escorted, or flipped off. I think you felt threatened because you are freaking sissies hiding behind your monitors. The schools on the Southside are proud of themselves and their hispanic heritage. If you guys weren't sounding like a couple of racist in your pure world, I do not know what is. I can sum you two guys up with one word COWARDS. Seguin, how do you feel about the hipanics in your community, I know there are a few.

[lonny23]

SeguinMatadors Quote:
We played Lanier and that school was GHETTOO. We had guards escort us to our buses. These little Mexican thugs were starting beef and we were close to massacering about 30 of them.
Texas Headliner Quote:
My junior year, we had a scrimmage against Holy Cross. Their school is in the ghetto as well and as we are on the bus ride over there we are at a stop light.
I look out the window and this vato gives me the finger for no reason.
must have been pissed in advance that we were going to 10 run rule those tools.
I am not a politically correct person, but you guys have got to be kidding me. I have taken several teams into the Southside, Lanier, South San, Edgewood, etc. And I have never felt threatened, escorted, or flipped off. I think you felt threatened because you are freaking sissies hiding behind your monitors. The schools on the Southside are proud of themselves and their hispanic heritage. If you guys weren't sounding like a couple of racist in your pure world, I do not know what is. I can sum you two guys up with one word COWARDS. Seguin, how do you feel about the hipanics in your community, I know there are a few.
Bubba, I'm just your average white guy and nobody ever bothered me walking around in the 'hood on both sides of Guadalupe Street.

[Redneckn]

What was racist about the statements made?
Seriously, I get accused of that a lot.. They didn't say anything close to the things that I say.

[Reaganrattler07]

What was racist about the statements made?
Seriously, I get accused of that a lot.. They didn't say anything close to the things that I say.

Apparently the "Mexican Thugs" and the "their school is in the ghetto".....

I think they might've been just badly worded but I'm not going to speak for them

[Redneckn]

Apparently the "Mexican Thugs" and the "their school is in the ghetto".....

I think they might've been just badly worded but I'm not going to speak for them


That can't be it. Because mexianthug, is descriptive. You wouldn't call them a "canadian thug" unless they were Canadian. And a ghetto can be anywhere. Race has very little to do with that.

Must be something else.

[Reaganrattler07]

That can't be it. Because mexianthug, is descriptive. You wouldn't call them a "canadian thug" unless they were Canadian. And a ghetto can be anywhere. Race has very little to do with that.

Must be something else.

I think your pretty right.....I'm going to go out on a limb and expect to be burned quite a bit BUT I think the race card is being overused....if something is going a way someone wants it, they release the race card and of course if something is racial, you automatically become the troll.

But I think thats what bubbacoach might've been talking about.

[SeguinMatadors]

SeguinMatadors Quote:
We played Lanier and that school was GHETTOO. We had guards escort us to our buses. These little Mexican thugs were starting beef and we were close to massacering about 30 of them.
Texas Headliner Quote:
My junior year, we had a scrimmage against Holy Cross. Their school is in the ghetto as well and as we are on the bus ride over there we are at a stop light.
I look out the window and this vato gives me the finger for no reason.
must have been pissed in advance that we were going to 10 run rule those tools.
I am not a politically correct person, but you guys have got to be kidding me. I have taken several teams into the Southside, Lanier, South San, Edgewood, etc. And I have never felt threatened, escorted, or flipped off. I think you felt threatened because you are freaking sissies hiding behind your monitors. The schools on the Southside are proud of themselves and their hispanic heritage. If you guys weren't sounding like a couple of racist in your pure world, I do not know what is. I can sum you two guys up with one word COWARDS. Seguin, how do you feel about the hipanics in your community, I know there are a few.

Wow, that is about as politically correct as it gets bubba. I really don't want to get in the race discussion on this board as it will most likely lead to me getting kicked off. Especially because you are more well known than I. I will say this though, I referred to them as Mexican thugs. Fact is, that's what they are. They walk around wearing their pants that are 5 sizes too big for them and carrying their "rags" and the vatos, tried to intimidate us. That happened more than once over my time. The area they are in, the ghetto is loaded with them and that isn't suprising. How can you argue me? I didn't have police escorts at Westlake, Clemens, Boerne, or Canyon. Only at the schools with those "proud Hispanic heritage" in the ghetto. As for me hiding behind my computer screen, you can't be serious, most of em' are like 5'2 110. Hey, my town has a little bit of the same problem with these, I guess we will call them kids who are proud of their Hispanic Heritage. Just not to the extent of those schools.

[SeguinMatadors]

What was racist about the statements made?
Seriously, I get accused of that a lot.. They didn't say anything close to the things that I say.

No kidding.

[SeguinMatadors]

I think your pretty right.....I'm going to go out on a limb and expect to be burned quite a bit BUT I think the race card is being overused....if something is going a way someone wants it, they release the race card and of course if something is racial, you automatically become the troll.

But I think thats what bubbacoach might've been talking about.

Yeah, no lie. You can't say anything without some over sensative punk getting offended.

[Rerun]

Yea, I played at many schools with no problems.

Smithson Valley - No police escort, no problems at all

Canyon - No police escort, no problems at all

New Braunfels, Reagan, Clark, Churchill, Madison, Boerne - ALL No police escorts and no problems.

[Favpack]

The three Conroe high schools were something like a combined 6-24 last year - impressive. Lufkin led Conroe Oak Ridge 31-0 midway through the first quarter.

[LoneRocket]

Yea, I played at many schools with no problems.

Smithson Valley - No police escort, no problems at all

Canyon - No police escort, no problems at all

New Braunfels, Reagan, Clark, Churchill, Madison, Boerne - ALL No police escorts and no problems.
I remember when we played basketball in Sequin one of our guys was jumped in the locker room while trying to use the restroom. During football season a couple on the chain crew and their brothers were looking to hurt one of our players after a game. (Some of us thought he had it coming and wasn't going to be one on one; He made it to the bus I did not think he could run that fast.

[SeguinMatadors]

I remember when we played basketball in Sequin one of our guys was jumped in the locker room while trying to use the restroom. During football season a couple on the chain crew and their brothers were looking to hurt one of our players after a game. (Some of us thought he had it coming and wasn't going to be one on one; He made it to the bus I did not think he could run that fast.

I don't doubt that. When was this?

[LoneRocket]

I don't doubt that. When was this?
I was there.

[SeguinMatadors]

You can doubt all you want, I was there.

DON'T.. I said I don't doubt it.

[LoneRocket]

DON'T.. I said I don't doubt it.
Sorry, my mistake.

[TRrr06]

wow you speak about TR being bad when its churchill getting into brawls with clark.. you have no understanding of my school like you think you do. we may seem ghetto but guess what..we are still NEISD and NEISD is a very well school district. the school may be flipping upside down and all due to all this "computer theft" situation. and yes we have a principle now just fyi for all you people wondering now.

[SeguinMatadors]

Sorry, my mistake.

It is cool. We all make mistakes. When did this occur? Supposedly Seguin had a problem with this sort of thing before I was in HS but got it cleaned up a lot. Really didn't see much of it in my years here. I am just wondering if this was recent or not.

[LoneRocket]

It is cool. We all make mistakes. When did this occur? Supposedly Seguin had a problem with this sort of thing before I was in HS but got it cleaned up a lot. Really didn't see much of it in my years here. I am just wondering if this was recent or not.
It happened back in the 80's, one of my co-workers said it also happend to her son 3 years ago in basketball. That was why I hated to play in Sequin, because even the fans were against you big time. It is a true home town advantage.

[Rerun]

wow you speak about TR being bad when its churchill getting into brawls with clark.. you have no understanding of my school like you think you do. we may seem ghetto but guess what..we are still NEISD and NEISD is a very well school district. the school may be flipping upside down and all due to all this "computer theft" situation. and yes we have a principle now just fyi for all you people wondering now.

Sure I do. I went there my freshman year by default. WASN'T my choice at all.

I transferred to Clemens as soon as I could for a multitude of reasons, the least of which was I was sick and tired of the constant flows and beating on the trash cans at lunch time.

I can not count how many times there were cops arresting students in the Target parking lot before and after school.

Roosevelt is ghetto. That is a cold hard fact.

[Reaganrattler07]

Yeah, no lie. You can't say anything without some over sensative punk getting offended.

That's what I hate about things nowadays.....you have to be politically correct. Like I was watching the abc world news tonight or whatever.....and people were whining about putting a christmas tree in front of the capital building. Now...the "disturbance" was because they changed the name from holiday tree to what it actually is - a Christmas tree.....

[Reaganrattler07]

Sure I do. I went there my freshman year by default. WASN'T my choice at all.

I transferred to Clemens as soon as I could for a multitude of reasons, the least of which was I was sick and tired of the constant flows and beating on the trash cans at lunch time.

I can not count how many times there were cops arresting students in the Target parking lot before and after school.

Roosevelt is ghetto. That is a cold hard fact.

That's why I had a long list of all the schools in San Antonio to determine where I would want to go. I narrowed it down to NEISD.....and eventually to Mac, Reagan and Churchill....and then to Reagan and Mac.

There was a hurricane evacuee on the news a few days ago who was attending a private schools in New Orleans who transferred to SA, and ultimately Churchill....at first he was scared cause it was a public school and now he's saying that Churchill is just like a private school.

[SeguinMatadors]

It happened back in the 80's, That was why I hated to play in Sequin, because even the fans were against you big time. It is a true home town advantage.

I think the one time I witnessed violence here at Seguin(sporting event related violence) was during a game against Westlake a few years back. I think it was in 02'. Anyways, Westlake had a arrogant big guy named Joey Thomas (now a tightend at Texas A&M) who had been taunting our sideline the whole time this game and had done the same thing in an earlier game against them at Westlake earlier that year. Anybody who has played in our old stadium, Tom Crump gym, knows the sideline is right on the court. Anyways, he and our baseball players had been getting into it verbally all game long. The atmosphere was intense as the game was for the third and final playoff spot in district 25-5a. A lot on the line. The game went on and on and in the end, we won the game on a game winning shot. Seguins fans stormed the court and Joey hit one of our baseball players. Our baseball team, of course all being bros willing to step up for eachother, was about to take it to Joey but Skip, Coach Josak (our baseball coach),jumped between and tried to hold Joey back so that our Baseball team wouldn't completely attack him. Soon after, in the heat of the moment, he decided to punch Skip in the face. Skip backed off and the whole baseball team was getting into it with them. It was good sized brawl.

[SeguinMatadors]

That's what I hate about things nowadays.....you have to be politically correct. Like I was watching the abc world news tonight or whatever.....and people were whining about putting a christmas tree in front of the capital building. Now...the "disturbance" was because they changed the name from holiday tree to what it actually is - a Christmas tree.....

Wow, what a bunch of crap. PC is killing this great USA.

[Reaganrattler07]

Wow, what a bunch of crap. PC is killing this great USA.

It's really a lot of compilations of the last decade....shame it can't be like the good ol' days!

[Redneckn]

It's really a lot of compilations of the last decade....shame it can't be like the good ol' days!


No, don't kid yourselves. This crap seriously got started back in the 60's and 70's. It is just now, in the last few years, really starting to take hold. But some of the things we see on t.v. are the fruits of the evils.
The good news is that it's only gonna get worse. People are scared to speak their minds anymore.

[Reaganrattler07]

No, don't kid yourselves. This crap seriously got started back in the 60's and 70's. It is just now, in the last few years, really starting to take hold. But some of the things we see on t.v. are the fruits of the evils.
The good news is that it's only gonna get worse. People are scared to speak their minds anymore.

Yeah I think you hit the nail on the head there.....a lot of things on tv are obviously misleading and the news agencies are really after their own self interest. Lol, I think I even know why they're against most video games (some video games they're against I can agree with...but a lot of them they're against them for different reasons)

[mad_fan]

That can't be it. Because mexianthug, is descriptive. You wouldn't call them a "canadian thug" unless they were Canadian. And a ghetto can be anywhere. Race has very little to do with that.

Must be something else.


I'm married to a Canadian and I'm here to tell you that's a BAD comparison. There is no such thing as a Canadian Thug. If you don't beleive me I'll sent my wife over to beat your a$$.:D They have good beer.:cool:

[Redneckn]

I'm married to a Canadian and I'm here to tell you that's a BAD comparison. There is no such thing as a Canadian Thug. If you don't beleive me I'll sent my wife over to beat your a$$.:D They have good beer.:cool:


That's really funny. When I was a younger man, an old fella was telling me: "son, there are 2 people in this world that are needlessly proud of themselves and where they are from. Texans and Canadians". I swear. That is a true story.
You and your canadian would have this old fart flipping in his grave...hahaha

[Crank_It]

Well it's all good and healthy to speak your mind as long as you're not a complete and ignorant tool bag. There was some guy on the news (ABC, CNN, or NBC can't remember which one) that said the flood victims who stayed were "stupid black people" and called them "idiots" and "lazy" for not leaving. Now I don't think I need to get into why most flood victims couldn't leave nor do I want to but to say that is crude and ridiculously unecessary. Oh, and as far as the post earlier about mexican thugs or whatever, how else do you want them to put it, the people he was talking about are mexicans and they were thugs, so they are "mexican thugs". no way else to put it.

Now back to football, it will be hard to replace a coach like Glen Hill at Roos. he was very efficient. At all the games between SV/Roos Larry and Glen would pace the sidelines in exactly the same fashion as eachother, rather hilarious to watch, even their expressions were similar! I hope he can fair well in conroe, because they need it.

[RoughRiderDrummer]

Sure I do. I went there my freshman year by default. WASN'T my choice at all.

I transferred to Clemens as soon as I could for a multitude of reasons, the least of which was I was sick and tired of the constant flows and beating on the trash cans at lunch time.

I can not count how many times there were cops arresting students in the Target parking lot before and after school.

Roosevelt is ghetto. That is a cold hard fact.


my freshman year was like what you describe, but it is not like that now at all. Lunches and for the most part peaceful, no bangin on trash cans and what not. You dont see students getting arrested at target. There have been only a couple of fights which were quickly broken up. We dont have drug use probelms. We have a very low teen pregnancy count. The school may look ghetto and to outsiders yea, you would probably think its ghetto at first look. But if you go there it isn't that bad at all. To tell you the truth i wouldn't rather go to any other school around.

[bullrock]

The only mistake you made in your comments are "Mexican Thugs". Redneck is right, if they were Canadian thugs that's what you would call them and nothing would be thought about it. There is only one problem. More than likely these were "American Thugs" as I assume you meant the Lanier High School in San Antonio, Texas..USA??? There is no way of knowing for sure if they were truly Mexicans. I too think this thread might be tetering on the edge of being politically incorrect or at least some of the posts. Better be careful.

[Rerun]

The only mistake you made in your comments are "Mexican Thugs". Redneck is right, if they were Canadian thugs that's what you would call them and nothing would be thought about it. There is only one problem. More than likely these were "American Thugs" as I assume you meant the Lanier High School in San Antonio, Texas..USA??? There is no way of knowing for sure if they were truly Mexicans. I too think this thread might be tetering on the edge of being politically incorrect or at least some of the posts. Better be careful.

Then let me correct the comment for him since he's my boy.

Hispanic thugs.

Is that better? Hispanic describes their race, not natonality.

[SeguinMatadors]

Then let me correct the comment for him since he's my boy.

Hispanic thugs.

Is that better? Hispanic describes their race, not natonality.

Appreciate that.:cool:

[lonny23]

I think the use of Mexican and the general tone that made posters look like they're blaming Hispanics is what did it. There is a lot of truth to their descriptions, though. 78207 is the poorest zip code in San Antonio. That's where Lanier is and it's about 97-98% Hispanic. Seguin has a heavy Hispanic population, too and not all the places in town are great places to live. I alluded to that a few weeks back.

[SeguinMatadors]

I think the use of Mexican and the general tone that made posters look like they're blaming Hispanics is what did it. There is a lot of truth to their descriptions, though. 78207 is the poorest zip code in San Antonio. That's where Lanier is and it's about 97-98% Hispanic. Seguin has a heavy Hispanic population, too and not all the places in town are great places to live. I alluded to that a few weeks back.

Just by looking at our school, I would say we are roughly 40% white, 35% Mexican, and 25% black. I could be wrong. Yes, Seguin has 2 bad parts but overall it isn't that bad. Even our bad parts aren't like the neighberhoods over there.

[jrdaniel]

Last info for Seguin I have is Hispanic 52%, White 38%, African American 8%.

FYI, Lanier is 99.2% hispanic, 0.6% African American, and 0.2% White.

[bubbacoach]

Yeah, no lie. You can't say anything without some over sensative punk getting offended.
If you are calling me an over sensitive punk, you better be real happy you are hiding behing your computer screen.

[LoneRocket]

It's really a lot of compilations of the last decade....shame it can't be like the good ol' days!
What do you know about the "good ol' days"?

[bubbacoach]

Yea, I played at many schools with no problems.

Smithson Valley - No police escort, no problems at all

Canyon - No police escort, no problems at all

New Braunfels, Reagan, Clark, Churchill, Madison, Boerne - ALL No police escorts and no problems.
If you remember correctly Smithson Valley painted a very racist term on the side of the Judson school buses when we played them over there. They even had to get extra security for our game.

[Crank_It]

If you remember correctly Smithson Valley painted a very racist term on the side of the Judson school buses when we played them over there. They even had to get extra security for our game.

Don't even go there. That was some stupid freshman idiot and after that happened the outrage at SV burst all over this kid and the entire student body, mostly the football players, were calling for his head to roll.

You can't base an entire community's perception based on one FRESHMAN turd that was looking for attention. If you do, you're one ignorant person.



and i'm spent

[bubbacoach]

You can't base a school or community on a few turds? What? I must be confused.

[JC73]

If you remember correctly Smithson Valley painted a very racist term on the side of the Judson school buses when we played them over there. They even had to get extra security for our game.
Here we go again, there is not even any SV fans in this conversation.

[Crank_It]

You can't base a school or community on a few turds? What? I must be confused.

turd= stupid punk kid, and it was only one. try and be smarter

[SeguinMatadors]

If you are calling me an over sensitive punk, you better be real happy you are hiding behing your computer screen.

Anytime... anyday.

[SeguinMatadors]

Don't even go there. That was some stupid freshman idiot and after that happened the outrage at SV burst all over this kid and the entire student body, mostly the football players, were calling for his head to roll.

You can't base an entire community's perception based on one FRESHMAN turd that was looking for attention. If you do, you're one ignorant person.



and i'm spent

Exactly. Big diff, one incident. Stupid incident.

[JC73]

You sound like you have worked at a lot of schools in the area and I was wondering where are you getting fired from next bubba?

[SeguinMatadors]

Last info for Seguin I have is Hispanic 52%, White 38%, African American 8%.

FYI, Lanier is 99.2% hispanic, 0.6% African American, and 0.2% White.

Hmm, maybe my info is all construed because for the most part, I hung out with the basketball team (mostly black) and was in AP classes (mostly white). To me it seemed there were more of each. I find it hard to believe we only have 8% black people.

[SeguinMatadors]

You sound like you have worked at a lot of schools in the area and I was wondering where are you getting fired from next bubba?

Hahaha.... low... but I like it.

[bubbacoach]

Gentlemen,

Do not judge a book by its cover. There are turds in every community and every school and if that is what you use to stereotype the whole school then you got to look at the turds at your school that define what you are. I have been to alot of places coaching for and against different teams. And believe me when I say that I have never been to a place where some fan did not yell something ignorant. It is everywhere. (except SLC) I have coached at Seguin and a student stabbed a teacher when I was there. There were drugs and want to be gangsters everywhere. Is that what the community is as a whole. I coached at Marshall, a teacher got caught foolong around with a student, there were fights, drugs, etc. When I was at Marshall, we came to school and there was a dead Ram in the courtyard the day we were to play Mac in the playoffs. Mac must be full of punks. When I was at Judson I had my truck keyed, there were teacher student altercations, I was threatened. Everyone at Judson must be gangsters. You hear in the news about the chearleaders getting in fights between Churchill and Clark at a pizza eating contest. Must be a bunch of thugs at those two schools. We play at SV and have racial remarks painted on our bus. Must be a bunch of clan members at that school. You always hear the negative about communities, but you hardly ever hear the positive things kids and communities are doing. Do not let the turds on a team, in a school, or in a community define that place. Know and understand that there is more good people than there are bad paople almost everywhere you go. Society as a whole is making being bad a good thing. Popular rappers talking about killing, doing drugs, treating women wrong, gambling, being ganster, etc.. And our kids look up to them like they are special. We as a society need to stop supporting stereotypes and adding to them. We need to stand up and put an end to the negative. Remember there is good anywhere you look if you look at the right places.

[bubbacoach]

i have worked at a few places. I have never been fired, I have won everywhere I go, I have been named SA coach of the year in the second sport I coach. I am good, I do not get fired.

[bubbacoach]

Anytime... anyday.
You name it, Just look for the 6'4" white guy that looks like he works out way to much.

[SeguinMatadors]

You name it, Just look for the 6'4" white guy that looks like he works out way to much.

Big, old, and slow... I don't think you know what you are getting yourself into. Let me know when you are near UTSA...:cool:

[bubbacoach]

I am not old, I still run a sub 5 forty and I spend four days a week in the gym. I have coached wrestling. No I do not think you know what you are getting yourself into. I go by there just about everyday. UTSA, you couldn't get into a real college.

[JC73]

You name it, Just look for the 6'4" white guy that looks like he works out way to much.
I know who you are now! Your name must be Roy D. Mercer.

[SeguinMatadors]

Gentlemen,

Do not judge a book by its cover. There are turds in every community and every school and if that is what you use to stereotype the whole school then you got to look at the turds at your school that define what you are. I have been to alot of places coaching for and against different teams. And believe me when I say that I have never been to a place where some fan did not yell something ignorant. It is everywhere. (except SLC) I have coached at Seguin and a student stabbed a teacher when I was there. There were drugs and want to be gangsters everywhere. Is that what the community is as a whole. I coached at Marshall, a teacher got caught foolong around with a student, there were fights, drugs, etc. When I was at Marshall, we came to school and there was a dead Ram in the courtyard the day we were to play Mac in the playoffs. Mac must be full of punks. When I was at Judson I had my truck keyed, there were teacher student altercations, I was threatened. Everyone at Judson must be gangsters. You hear in the news about the chearleaders getting in fights between Churchill and Clark at a pizza eating contest. Must be a bunch of thugs at those two schools. We play at SV and have racial remarks painted on our bus. Must be a bunch of clan members at that school. You always hear the negative about communities, but you hardly ever hear the positive things kids and communities are doing. Do not let the turds on a team, in a school, or in a community define that place. Know and understand that there is more good people than there are bad paople almost everywhere you go. Society as a whole is making being bad a good thing. Popular rappers talking about killing, doing drugs, treating women wrong, gambling, being ganster, etc.. And our kids look up to them like they are special. We as a society need to stop supporting stereotypes and adding to them. We need to stand up and put an end to the negative. Remember there is good anywhere you look if you look at the right places.

No one is denying that altercations happen everywhere because they do. There are bad kids everywhere but some schools, as a whole, are crappier and have more bad kids than others. Seguin, Judson, Clemens, etc... are going to look bad in comparison to a school like Westlake or SLC. Hell, I read Westlake is one of the top academic schools in the nation. Anyways, schools are set up based on the people in the area who attend them. Westlake, I am sure, pays less attention to discipline and rules and more attention to actually teaching creativity and constructive information. Why? Most of them have solid homes with parents who have taught them right from wrong and have put them in positions to succeed. Naturally there are going to be less altercations. Schools like Lanier, in poor ghettos are ridden with kids who have grown up in broken homes and kids who are forced by necessity and neighborhood to be "tough". They grow up that way and naturally they become more violent. More violent= more altercations. These kids are the way they are because it is their culture. It is no coincident that there are police escorts in those neighborhoods at those schools. If you try and deny it, you are a fool.

[SeguinMatadors]

I am not old, I still run a sub 5 forty and I spend four days a week in the gym. I have coached wrestling. No I do not think you know what you are getting yourself into. I go by there just about everyday. UTSA, you couldn't get into a real college.

Haha, I got into Baylor but wanted to go to UT so I got into their CAPS program. Those wrestling moves aren't going to work on me. Too quick.:rolleyes:

[JC73]

i have worked at a few places. I have never been fired, I have won everywhere I go, I have been named SA coach of the year in the second sport I coach. I am good, I do not get fired.
That's just amazing, considering you spend so much time on the internet.

[LoneRocket]

Some of those schools you mention have issues also, you just do not hear about it publicly does that mean it is in their culture also?

[SeguinMatadors]

I am not old, I still run a sub 5 forty and I spend four days a week in the gym. I have coached wrestling. No I do not think you know what you are getting yourself into. I go by there just about everyday. UTSA, you couldn't get into a real college.

By the way, I find it hard to believe you aren't old if you coached at Seguin pre coach Ortiz as you told me you did. Probably in your late 30's. You aren't taking me! Maybe you are old coach Milam (sp.) ? He was a pretty big guy and he coached wrestling.

[SeguinMatadors]

Some of those schools you mention have issues also, you just do not hear about it publicly does that mean it is in their culture also?

There are problems everywhere.. are you so naive that you can't see there are more problems in certain places due to cultural expectations or lack there of?

[LoneRocket]

There are problems everywhere.. are you so naive that you can't see there are more problems in certain places due to cultural expectations or lack there of?
Are also you saying that some of the schools that you mentioned as "good schools" that have had issues like drug dealing, drug abuse, alcoholism, burglaries, people being stabbed at parties, suicides, student involved in hit in run death (DWI) are due to problems in certain places due to cultural expectations or lack there of?

[SeguinMatadors]

Are also you saying that some of the schools that you mentioned as "good schools" that have had issues like drug dealing, drug abuse, alcoholism, burglaries, people being stabbed at parties, suicides, student involved in hit in run death (DWI) are due to problems in certain places due to cultural expectations or lack there of?

Once again, I am sure there are problems everywhere. Kids are kids. Are you going to answer my queston? I thought so.

[maverick523]

I vote this for all time run away thread! And bubbacoach what are you doing getting into such a pee pee contest with a Matador? By the way, is your name... well, I won't expose you, but if you are who I think you are, then you were one hell of a wrestler, football, and baseball player in your high school days. Just let me know if you graduated in '89? Or was it '90? maybe I'm confusing you with your brother. Needless to say the two of you guys graduated a year a part. Or maybe I've got the wrong bubbacoach altogether.

[lonny23]

If you are calling me an over sensitive punk, you better be real happy you are hiding behing your computer screen.
Hey, Bubba.

What do you have to say about one of our posters saying Judson teaches illegal chop blocks and has kids taking steroids?

[lonny23]

You sound like you have worked at a lot of schools in the area and I was wondering where are you getting fired from next bubba?
Bubba is fiery, but you need that in a coach.

[bubbacoach]

I was at Judson for a number of years and spent alot of time around athletes and I will tell you this. That if Judson kids are using steroids they are getting ripped off, because they are not working. Judson is not that strong in the weight room, they have good athletes that understand the game and great coaching. No Steroids that I ever saw, and no athletes getting good results from them if they were. Nothing illegal has ever been taught on a Judson practice field as long as I was there. Every year we would discuss rule changes and how it would effect us and how to change our techniques. Whoever said this is just trying to justify why their program is of little comparison to the Judson program.

[bubbacoach]

I vote this for all time run away thread! And bubbacoach what are you doing getting into such a pee pee contest with a Matador? By the way, is your name... well, I won't expose you, but if you are who I think you are, then you were one hell of a wrestler, football, and baseball player in your high school days. Just let me know if you graduated in '89? Or was it '90? maybe I'm confusing you with your brother. Needless to say the two of you guys graduated a year a part. Or maybe I've got the wrong bubbacoach altogether.
I graduated in 1988.

[lonny23]

I graduated in 1988.
Boy, you're an old fart!:p OK, I graduated in 1989 and thought you were older than that.

[Reaganrattler07]

Don't even go there. That was some stupid freshman idiot and after that happened the outrage at SV burst all over this kid and the entire student body, mostly the football players, were calling for his head to roll.

You can't base an entire community's perception based on one FRESHMAN turd that was looking for attention. If you do, you're one ignorant person.



and i'm spent

Again, I've heard far different......

[bubbacoach]

Boy, you're an old fart!:p OK, I graduated in 1989 and thought you were older than that.
Wise beyond my years. Spent a few years living life before I got started in my career.

[SeguinMatadors]

I don't doubt that kids use steroids at Judson. I am almost sure that at least a couple of kids on every 5a program in Texas use steroids. How many there are just varies from year to year. Some years there are bigger outbreaks of usage than others. That is speaking as someone who just left HS and knew kids (Some of them being the top players in the area) at various schools using them.

[theloneranger]

I don't like this......this is sad news for 265 but We still got the other Hill!!!:D

[lonny23]

I don't doubt that kids use steroids at Judson. I am almost sure that at least a couple of kids on every 5a program in Texas use steroids. How many there are just varies from year to year. Some years there are bigger outbreaks of usage than others. That is speaking as someone who just left HS and knew kids (Some of them being the top players in the area) at various schools using them.
I agree with you and have said that before. There are cheaters everywhere who are looking for an edge.