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lonny23
11-30-2008, 10:54 PM
I'm on board with playoffs and changing how the Big 12 does the title game, but I also know things sometimes go in cycles and change isn't always needed. In the case of the Big 12, I think the money from the South will lead to an inbalance for the foreseeable future, though.

Anyway, since somebody had to go to KC, it should be OU.

Round Robin:

OU 35-45 and 65-21 is +34
UT 45-35 and 33-39 is +6
Tech 39-33 and 21-65 is -38

Common games:

Okie Lite at Tech +36
OU at Okie Lite +20
Okie Lite at UT +4

Tech at KU +42
UT at KU +28
KU at OU +14

OU at Baylor +32
Baylor at UT +24
Baylor at Tech +7

A&M at UT +40
OU at A&M +38
Tech at A&M +18

OU +104
Tech +103
UT +96

Total common/round robin:

OU +138
UT +102
Tech +65

Other Big 12:

OU at K-State +23, Nebraska +34 (+57)
UT at Colorado +24, Mizzou +25 (+49)
Tech at K-State +30, Nebraska +6 (+36)

Total Big 12:

OU +195
UT +151
Tech +101

Non-conference:

OU Chattanooga +55, Cincinnati +26, at Washington +41, TCU +25 (+147)
UT Florida Atlantic +42, at UTEP +29, Rice +42, Arkansas +42 (+155)
Tech Eastern Washington +25, at Nevada +16, Southern Methodist +36, Massachusetts +42 (+119)

Total:

OU +342
UT +306
Tech +220

1. OU won the total margin battle, but the big one was best in round robin. 2. The common Big 12 games were an almost even draw.
3. The other Big 12 games are a slight advantage to OU and Mizzou losing to KU takes away the feather in UT's cap and that makes that win not really much better than Tech and OU beating Nebraska.
4. You've got to give OU the competitive edge in non-conference, too.

Here's how the individual trump game works:

vs. OU- Texas
vs. UT- Tech
vs. Tech- OU
vs. OSU- Tech
vs. KU- Tech
vs. Baylor- OU
vs. A&M- OU (38 on road is better than 40 at home)

Other Big 12 games:

1. UT Mizzou +25
2. OU Nebraska +34
3. Tech at K-State +30
4. OU at K-State +23
5. UT at Colorado +24
6. Tech Nebraska +6

That's an almost dead heat for me and I'll give UT a tiebreaker edge.

slorch
11-30-2008, 10:56 PM
advil, anyone?:D

patient1019
11-30-2008, 11:00 PM
Another exercise in futility.

OU is No. 2, Texas is No. 3.

The only numbers that matter now. End of thread.

svhorns
11-30-2008, 11:06 PM
sllllloooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwww doooowwwnn... in english please...

lonny23
11-30-2008, 11:09 PM
advil, anyone?:D
I didn't even get into the merits of running up scores, sitting on the ball and all that.

The scores show these are the only teams in the country to outscore their conference by at least 100 and everybody by at least 200:

Mizzou
OU
UT
Tech
Penn State
USC
Florida
'bama

The fact that the Big 12 South played each other and still did it is great.

jtk1519
11-30-2008, 11:10 PM
If you're high, loony's posts look like Jimi Hendrix.

lonny23
11-30-2008, 11:12 PM
sllllloooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwww doooowwwnn... in english please...
Everything I can come up with says OU deserves to play in KC over UT and Tech if you can only pick 1. The shame is UT and Tech are both among the 5 best teams.

My 5 best teams and not in order:

Tech
UT
OU
Florida
USC

not Penn State, 'bama, or Utah.

No OU is not 44 points better than Tech if they play again.

SLC
11-30-2008, 11:13 PM
If you're high, loony's posts look like Jimi Hendrix.


Ah god.... I just lost it.:D

patient1019
11-30-2008, 11:13 PM
If you're high, loony's posts look like Jimi Hendrix.

His posts aren't that awesome, even while high.

This is Lonny's raving madness while high:

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/6219/cirquedusoleilquidamqu1.jpg

JMSFan
12-01-2008, 12:09 AM
Everything I can come up with says OU deserves to play in KC over UT and Tech if you can only pick 1. The shame is UT and Tech are both among the 5 best teams.

My 5 best teams and not in order:

Tech
UT
OU
Florida
USC

not Penn State, 'bama, or Utah.

No OU is not 44 points better than Tech if they play again.

And Baylor would beat Tech if they play again
And Texas would beat Tech if they play again
And Nebraska would beat Tech if they play again
And so on and so on,

jtk1519
12-01-2008, 12:25 AM
Ah god.... I just lost it.:D

Seriously, dude. Every word is a note of "Purple Haze". I can see the music.

BTW guys, slorch is selling the good stuff... the Colorado grass. Flood his PM box with requests.

SLC
12-01-2008, 12:28 AM
And Baylor would beat Tech if they play again
And Texas would beat Tech if they play again
And Nebraska would beat Tech if they play again
And so on and so on,



And you've got it.

SLC
12-01-2008, 12:32 AM
Seriously, dude. Every word is a note of "Purple Haze". I can see the music.

BTW guys, slorch is selling the good stuff... the Colorado grass. Flood his PM box with requests.

So Loony and Slorchy dont just push grassy knoll theories... They actually push the grass. It all makes since now.

jtk1519
12-01-2008, 01:11 AM
So Loony and Slorchy dont just push grassy knoll theories... They actually push the grass. It all makes since now.

You know loony is a smoker. No way stupidity like that is natural.

SLC
12-01-2008, 10:45 AM
You know loony is a smoker. No way stupidity like that is natural.



Unless it's practiced... over and over and over and over and over and over and over again. Eventually it becomes perfection.. Some people never get stupidity down to a science... Then again, most dont try as hard as he does.