View Full Version : Smithson Valley vs. SA Reagan
Saint210
11-29-2008, 04:23 PM
Both teams had nice victories in round 3.
Who do you got?
DiamondJ2
11-29-2008, 04:24 PM
I've already told SV GL in the semifinals.
SVite
11-29-2008, 04:28 PM
I`ll say 27-21 SV
In a game where the fans loose there voices!:D
okt0ber
11-29-2008, 05:44 PM
I`ll say 27-21 SV
In a game where the fans loose there voices!:D
loose there voices, eh?
I think they might lose their voices.
I pick Reagan by 2... maybe just 1. I'll be there, I might just have to sit in the end zone because I dunno who I'd want to cheer for.
shooter
11-29-2008, 05:57 PM
loose there voices, eh?
I think they might lose their voices.
I pick Reagan by 2... maybe just 1. I'll be there, I might just have to sit in the end zone because I dunno who I'd want to cheer for.
Make sure to not sit in the North end zone where the Reagan student body likes to sit. I noticed the City of San Antonio is now stationing two Armed police officers in that end zone for Reagan games.
okt0ber
11-29-2008, 06:12 PM
Make sure to not sit in the North end zone where the Reagan student body likes to sit. I noticed the City of San Antonio is now stationing two Armed police officers in that end zone for Reagan games.
I dunno what they need two officers for, except maybe to make sure they don't make too much noise for the game, LOL.
TexasRed6x
11-29-2008, 06:15 PM
I think that Reagan will keep it close But SV will win and also win state. It will be close so here it goes
SV 31
Reagan 10
RedRage00
11-29-2008, 06:16 PM
I dunno what they need two officers for, except maybe to make sure they don't make too much noise for the game, LOL.
to hold down ReaganRattler07 when he runs onto the field.
RedRage00
11-29-2008, 06:20 PM
I think that Reagan will keep it close But SV will win and also win state. It will be close so here it goes
SV 31
Reagan 10
IDK, There is a lot of football left. Wylie is destroying a very good Arlington Bowie team right now.
okt0ber
11-29-2008, 06:23 PM
to hold down ReaganRattler07 when he runs onto the field.
LOL!!! I don't think he sits with that section anymore, he's getting too old...
SVite
11-29-2008, 06:43 PM
loose there voices, eh?
I think they might lose their voices.
I pick Reagan by 2... maybe just 1. I'll be there, I might just have to sit in the end zone because I dunno who I'd want to cheer for.
Sorry teacher, i`ll try harder, i promise!:rolleyes:
okt0ber
11-29-2008, 06:46 PM
Sorry teacher, i`ll try harder, i promise!:rolleyes:
LOL.
It shud come naturally! :p
gonefishin
11-29-2008, 06:46 PM
My pick is SV in a close one, 17-13. It will be close all the way, and go down to the wire. Both defenses are playing exceptional football. The team that makes the fewest mistakes will win. Its hard to beat SV twice in the same season.....not impossible, but improbable. THIS IS GONNA BE A GREAT GAME!
longhorn3
11-29-2008, 07:57 PM
I do think that SV will hold on to a win late...I think it will be close to the end with coach hill making it even closer at the end with a bad decision he makes...he tries an onside kick up 9 points with 2 minutes to go in the game...reagan recovers and scores a quick td and final score will be
SV 32
Reagan 29
I do think that SV will hold on to a win late...I think it will be close to the end with coach hill making it even closer at the end with a bad decision he makes...he tries an onside kick up 9 points with 2 minutes to go in the game...reagan recovers and scores a quick td and final score will be
SV 32
Reagan 29
:laugh :notworthy
shooter
11-29-2008, 08:12 PM
I dunno what they need two officers for, except maybe to make sure they don't make too much noise for the game, LOL.
I think it is due to damage to chairs and the blue pads...
I know I saw on one occasion during the Warren game the maintenance guy out to fix a blue pad that had fallen off in that end zone...
Reaganrattler07
11-29-2008, 11:01 PM
I dunno what they need two officers for, except maybe to make sure they don't make too much noise for the game, LOL.
I noticed that last week.
"Too much noise" or are just preventing a small riot from happening?
I think that Reagan will keep it close But SV will win and also win state. It will be close so here it goes
SV 31
Reagan 10
So "close" = 21....uh....right.
to hold down ReaganRattler07 when he runs onto the field.
I'd get about 10 yards in and run out of breath.
LOL!!! I don't think he sits with that section anymore, he's getting too old...
I'm not old! Just not as young as I used to be.:p
rangerpride
11-29-2008, 11:29 PM
SV wins this one 20-17. Both teams have their defenses primed and ready for this game, and it will come down to an SV FG, or possibly a missed FG from Reagan in an attempt to tie it up late.
Just a hunch...
ATXChap07
11-29-2008, 11:33 PM
Im going with SV, the initials that are keyed on the side of my car
rangerpride
11-30-2008, 12:14 AM
Im going with SV, the initials that are keyed on the side of my car
There are bad apples in every bunch, but don't let it make you hate all of us.;)
TEAMFALCON
11-30-2008, 12:17 AM
Good luck to both Region IV teams.
Reagan didn't have any penalties against Los Fresnos. At this stage of the game, that's what's needed.
Good luck.
ATXChap07
11-30-2008, 12:20 AM
There are bad apples in every bunch, but don't let it make you hate all of us.;)
No doubt, westlake got sour apples too, and yet they make people hate us. I dont look at the fans I usually look at the coaches and players, and after brief analysis i came to the conclusion that SV is class all the way.
okt0ber
11-30-2008, 12:36 AM
There are bad apples in every bunch, but don't let it make you hate all of us.;)
Wasn't there some deal with some busses getting vandalized within the past few years, too?
ATXChap07
11-30-2008, 12:39 AM
Wasn't there some deal with some busses getting vandalized within the past few years, too?
Cars, busses, locker rooms the whole nine yards
cazzy
11-30-2008, 12:43 AM
Reagan held them 33 points under their average...I call that a success!!! :D
okt0ber
11-30-2008, 12:46 AM
Cars, busses, locker rooms the whole nine yards
I thought so. Seems to be like... what do you call it? one of those.. um... TRENDS! ;)
ATXChap07
11-30-2008, 12:52 AM
I thought so. Seems to be like... what do you call it? one of those.. um... TRENDS! ;)
Well when obama taxes the crap out of us, then were going to vandalize everyone;)
okt0ber
11-30-2008, 12:53 AM
Well when obama taxes the crap out of us, then were going to vandalize everyone;)
Everyone knows people who live in Eanes ISD have money to spare. Just ask the TEA. :p
ATXChap07
11-30-2008, 12:56 AM
Everyone knows people who live in Eanes ISD have money to spare. Just ask the TEA. :p
Contrary to popular belief not everyone in westlake has money to spare
SA_ReaganDad
11-30-2008, 02:33 AM
Back to the topic...
Nobody picked Reagan to make the playoffs.
Nobody picked Reagan to beat SV the first time they met this year.
Most had Reagan losing the Warren both time that Reagan played them this year.
Most had Reagan losing to Madison with the District Championship on the line.
SV will be the overwhelming pick this week.
I like that position.
If SV is going to win this one, they'd better have it put away before the 4th quarter. Otherwise... it's Reagan in a tight one.
Should be a great game. Given the defenses and grind-it-out offenses, it will be low-scoring. Two well-coached and well-prepared programs. It will come down to who makes the fewest mistakes.
Whoever wins, it won't be an "upset".
AFBroGermany
11-30-2008, 02:47 AM
i feel this one wil be like several years back when we played roosevelt for the first time. They beat us during regular season but when playoffs came around SV stomped them like 45-14. I see this going the same way...just my gut feeling
DiamondJ2
11-30-2008, 09:42 AM
Don't believe it will be that much of a spread, but SV will prevail. Revenge can be a strong motivator, plus SV defense will make the stops when necessary, even in the 4th quarter.
shooter
11-30-2008, 10:00 AM
Back to the topic...
Nobody picked Reagan to make the playoffs.
Nobody picked Reagan to beat SV the first time they met this year.
Most had Reagan losing the Warren both time that Reagan played them this year.
Most had Reagan losing to Madison with the District Championship on the line.
SV will be the overwhelming pick this week.
I like that position.
If SV is going to win this one, they'd better have it put away before the 4th quarter. Otherwise... it's Reagan in a tight one.
Should be a great game. Given the defenses and grind-it-out offenses, it will be low-scoring. Two well-coached and well-prepared programs. It will come down to who makes the fewest mistakes.
Whoever wins, it won't be an "upset".
that is a pretty big word DAD
see link for proof
Click Here (http://www.5atexasfootball.com/forum/vB/showthread.php?t=29462&highlight=reagan+shooter)
SVite
11-30-2008, 10:06 AM
In the 1st game SV owned the clock. They ran 63 offensive plays, to Reagans 40. Give Reagan props for stopping SV deeper in their end of the field.
Sv won the yellow flag game also, especially the second to last play of the game, that set up a great Reagan pass, and catch for the win with 57 seconds left in the game.
Blame the SV coaching staff for Reagan getting the ball back in that last possesion, when all SV had to do was run a rushing play (already in Reagans territory) and punt the ball making Reagan go at least 80 yds with less than 2 minutes left. SV`s defense had been holding Reagans offense down up to that point. Odds were SV`s defense would have held them, especially with Reagan having only one time out left.
Instead the coaches opt for a pass, gets picked off, a big yellow flag for an iffy personal foul, sets up the TD play.
SV`s drop TD pass in the end zone earlier, ended up being a big factor also.
With all that said, Reagan did score more points, and pulled out a muscle match. And thats the bottom line.
Since that loss SV has reeled off 10 straight impressive wins.
Gonna be one huge physical hard hittin game!
thatbigguy55
11-30-2008, 10:09 AM
I'm from the Dallas area and i don't know anything about these teams. But i do know that its EXTREMELY hard to beat a team twice in a season. Especially beating a team that lots of people are saying will win state.
SA_ReaganDad
11-30-2008, 10:16 AM
that is a pretty big word DAD
see link for proof
Click Here (http://www.5atexasfootball.com/forum/vB/showthread.php?t=29462&highlight=reagan+shooter)
Thanks for the link. I'm new to this site, but have read many of Shooter's posts, which have been solid.
You're right... "Nobody" is a big word... when you factor in everyone that posts an opinion on the worldwide web. Allow me to clarify. You have found an independent blogger that picked Reagan to come in 4th in 26-5A. You'll have a tougher time finding preseason print media that had Reagan making the playoffs. Dave Campbell's didn't (had Roosevelt picked for district champ) and SA Express News didn't (had SV picked for district champ).
i feel this one wil be like several years back when we played roosevelt for the first time. They beat us during regular season but when playoffs came around SV stomped them like 45-14. I see this going the same way...just my gut feeling
You mean Westlake and I agree with your thought process
shooter
11-30-2008, 10:22 AM
Thanks for the link. I'm new to this site, but have read many of Shooter's posts, which have been solid.
You're right... "Nobody" is a big word... when you factor in everyone that posts an opinion on the worldwide web. Allow me to clarify. You have found an independent blogger that picked Reagan to come in 4th in 26-5A. You'll have a tougher time finding preseason print media that had Reagan making the playoffs. Dave Campbell's didn't (had Roosevelt picked for district champ) and SA Express News didn't (had SV picked for district champ).
"most" would have been a better word and welcome to the board! "MOST" take a beat down of some kind when they first arrive.
shooter
11-30-2008, 10:23 AM
I'm from the Dallas area and i don't know anything about these teams. But i do know that its EXTREMELY hard to beat a team twice in a season. Especially beating a team that lots of people are saying will win state.
Welcome to the board.
SV lost twice last season to Madison the last time was in this same round....
SA_ReaganDad
11-30-2008, 10:32 AM
In the 1st game SV owned the clock. They ran 63 offensive plays, to Reagans 40. Give Reagan props for stopping SV deeper in their end of the field.
Sv won the yellow flag game also, especially the second to last play of the game, that set up a great Reagan pass, and catch for the win with 57 seconds left in the game.
Blame the SV coaching staff for Reagan getting the ball back in that last possesion, when all SV had to do was run a rushing play (already in Reagans territory) and punt the ball making Reagan go at least 80 yds with less than 2 minutes left. SV`s defense had been holding Reagans offense down up to that point. Odds were SV`s defense would have held them, especially with Reagan having only one time out left.
Instead the coaches opt for a pass, gets picked off, a big yellow flag for an iffy personal foul, sets up the TD play.
SV`s drop TD pass in the end zone earlier, ended up being a big factor also.
With all that said, Reagan did score more points, and pulled out a muscle match. And thats the bottom line.
Since that loss SV has reeled off 10 straight impressive wins.
Gonna be one huge physical hard hittin game!
Point by point on Reagan's 10-7 victory over SV earlier this year:
>> Yes, SV had the ball 30:16 compared to Reagan's 17:54. After scoring on an 8 minute drive to start the game, SV never took a snap in the Reagan red zone. They had two later drives across midfield, and took only one more snap inside Reagan's 30. Reagan had first half drives stopped at the SV 36 and SV 40.
>> Yes, SV committed a 15-yard penalty on the first play of Reagan's 4 play scoring drive, moving the ball to the SV 43. Did you complain about the "sideline infraction" that gave SV a key first down on the preceding possession? Probably not.
>> Perhaps SV shoulda stayed on the ground on its last possession, but they were not on Reagan's side of the 50. Zack Bean's interception came on 3rd and 9 from the SV 38.
>> Zack Bean's deflection might have had something to do with your "dropped" TD. Conversely, Carter Hahn's pass from the SV 40 bounced off of Derrick Walls' helmet behind the secondary on the last play of the half.
>> Reagan outgained SV on the game, 268 to 261, drove 58 yards for the winning score, and didn't turn the ball over. They also won the game and district championship. Spin that however you want.
>> This next game will be a great one. Good luck. Drive safe.
SVite
11-30-2008, 10:37 AM
Welcome to the board.
SV lost twice last season to Madison the last time was in this same round....
Yeah, and this year SV only had 2 returning starters.
So yes the odds are against SV to win this one!;)
SVite
11-30-2008, 10:45 AM
Point by point on Reagan's 10-7 victory over SV earlier this year:
>> Yes, SV had the ball 30:16 compared to Reagan's 17:54. After scoring on an 8 minute drive to start the game, SV never took a snap in the Reagan red zone. They had two later drives across midfield, and took only one more snap inside Reagan's 30. Reagan had first half drives stopped at the SV 36 and SV 40.
>> Yes, SV committed a 15-yard penalty on the first play of Reagan's 4 play scoring drive, moving the ball to the SV 43. Did you complain about the "sideline infraction" that gave SV a key first down on the preceding possession? Probably not.
>> Perhaps SV shoulda stayed on the ground on its last possession, but they were not on Reagan's side of the 50. Zack Bean's interception came on 3rd and 9 from the SV 38.
>> Zack Bean's deflection might have had something to do with your "dropped" TD. Conversely, Carter Hahn's pass from the SV 40 bounced off of Derrick Walls' helmet behind the secondary on the last play of the half.
>> Reagan outgained SV on the game, 268 to 261, drove 58 yards for the winning score, and didn't turn the ball over. They also won the game and district championship. Spin that however you want.
>> This next game will be a great one. Good luck. Drive safe.
What spin? I said bottom line was the Reagan won on the score board.
Reagan had the ball for an awsome 17+ minutes, my hat is off , wow!
All i`m doing is showing that SV can play with this awsome team, even though you took us down on a thursday sept. night.
This one will be played on a Friday night like football should be, and will find out whos better with the chips on table.;)
gonefishin
11-30-2008, 11:44 AM
Point by point on Reagan's 10-7 victory over SV earlier this year:
>> Yes, SV had the ball 30:16 compared to Reagan's 17:54. After scoring on an 8 minute drive to start the game, SV never took a snap in the Reagan red zone. They had two later drives across midfield, and took only one more snap inside Reagan's 30. Reagan had first half drives stopped at the SV 36 and SV 40.
>> Yes, SV committed a 15-yard penalty on the first play of Reagan's 4 play scoring drive, moving the ball to the SV 43. Did you complain about the "sideline infraction" that gave SV a key first down on the preceding possession? Probably not.
>> Perhaps SV shoulda stayed on the ground on its last possession, but they were not on Reagan's side of the 50. Zack Bean's interception came on 3rd and 9 from the SV 38.
>> Zack Bean's deflection might have had something to do with your "dropped" TD. Conversely, Carter Hahn's pass from the SV 40 bounced off of Derrick Walls' helmet behind the secondary on the last play of the half.
>> Reagan outgained SV on the game, 268 to 261, drove 58 yards for the winning score, and didn't turn the ball over. They also won the game and district championship. Spin that however you want.
>> This next game will be a great one. Good luck. Drive safe.
That was a great game, and this one will be great too! By the way, the district title was SHARED, the head to head only decided first and second seed in the division 2 playoffs. Spin that however you want.....lol
wizenbud
11-30-2008, 11:50 AM
I picked SV to go all the way after watching them tear TR apart. SV is on a roll. Both defenses are stout. Though, SV has the better offense and special teams.
SV 20
Reagan 10
;)
Redhoss
11-30-2008, 12:37 PM
I picked SV to go all the way after watching them tear TR apart. SV is on a roll. Both defenses are stout. Though, SV has the better offense and special teams.
SV 20
Reagan 10
;)
After reading the thread, I'm going with this pick. :D
Good luck to both teams. I hope I can pick it up on a broadcast somewhere.
AFBroGermany
11-30-2008, 12:50 PM
You mean Westlake and I agree with your thought process
CKE always there to correct my clouded memories lol:rolleyes: but at least you got what i was thinking. i couild have sworn it was roosie cause coach hills brother was the other coach... like i said my memory is cloudy
wizenbud
11-30-2008, 12:54 PM
CKE always there to correct my clouded memories lol:rolleyes: but at least you got what i was thinking. i couild have sworn it was roosie cause coach hills brother was the other coach... like i said my memory is cloudy
We made the playoffs...... could we please be referred to as TR, please. :p:D
AFBroGermany
11-30-2008, 12:58 PM
We made the playoffs...... could we please be referred to as TR, please. :p:D
my bad TR:D this was quite a few years ago, like 2002? 2003? timeframe
wizenbud
11-30-2008, 01:12 PM
my bad TR:D this was quite a few years ago, like 2002? 2003? timeframe
It's cool !! :D
TR hasn't been in the playoffs all that much (9 times since 1966).
The last time TR made the playoffs was 2002. We got beat in the 1st round. So, I don't think it was SV that got us that year. As a matter of fact, I don't think we have beaten SV....... ever. At least I can't remember any wins. I could be mistaken. Maybe back in the day (pre-2000).
I think CKE is right, Westlake was the team. CKE is the go to man for all-things Region 4. I would trust his post more than anyone elses, on any forum. Trust me, it burns my checks to say that. :D:Censor::p
AFBroGermany
11-30-2008, 01:19 PM
It's cool !! :D
TR hasn't been in the playoffs all that much (9 times since 1966).
The last time TR made the playoffs was 2002. We got beat in the 1st round. So, I don't think it was SV that got us that year. As a matter of fact, I don't think we have beaten SV....... ever. At least I can't remember any wins. I could be mistaken. Maybe back in the day (pre-2000).
I think CKE is right, Westlake was the team. CKE is the go to man for all-things Region 4. I would trust his post more than anyone elses, on any forum. Trust me, it burns my checks to say that. :D:Censor::p
lol yeah im probably wrong, oh well:p
yeah CKE is always right, and if you think hes bad on the internet, you should talk to him in person
he only puts up with me cause i taught him to ride his motorcycle lol
wizenbud
11-30-2008, 01:23 PM
lol yeah im probably wrong, oh well:p
yeah CKE is always right, and if you think hes bad on the internet, you should talk to him in person
he only puts up with me cause i taught him to ride his motorcycle lol
LOL !! :notworthy
At least you got SOMETHING on him !! The rest of us have to suffer !! :p
AFBroGermany
11-30-2008, 01:27 PM
LOL !! :notworthy
At least you got SOMETHING on him !! The rest of us have to suffer !! :p
lol
he really is a good guy though
but if he ever gets on your nerves just tell him i told you all the stories from spring break 05 lol
he will shut up quick:D
MADFAN#1
11-30-2008, 01:39 PM
What spin? I said bottom line was the Reagan won on the score board.
Reagan had the ball for an awsome 17+ minutes, my hat is off , wow!
All i`m doing is showing that SV can play with this awsome team, even though you took us down on a thursday sept. night.
This one will be played on a Friday night like football should be, and will find out whos better with the chips on table.;)
Let me preface this by saying, as a Madison fan I am impartial in this one.
With that said SVite I have to agree with the Reagan poster and say you have put a good spin on that game. Almost good enough to gain the nickname, SpinDoctor. Even in your rebuttal you have added another spin by stating that the game was played on Thursday Night in September.
Sounds like you dominated time of possession and only scored 7 points and were out gained by 5 yards. Obviously that 17+ minutes of possession were enough to beat SV that night.
This "break" and that "break" are all part of the game. I'm sure that if the pass was not intercepted and was completed for a first down you would have been saying "What a great call by Hill, allowed us to run out the clock"
Game will be won by the team who wants it the most. And yes, "breaks" (tipped passes, penalties, bad coach's decisions) will happen to both teams.
Should be a great game. I think SV will pull it out in the end.
SV 17
RR 14
SVite
11-30-2008, 01:50 PM
my bad TR:D this was quite a few years ago, like 2002? 2003? timeframe
I remember TR blowing out SV in the playoffs (maybe 2001) and went on to win state? Then the next year SV beat TR at Harlandale stadium. Little cloudy for me too. These past years start running into each other.
I`m sure someone will correct us!:)
Reagans' third straight trip to the Regional finals. Close game until the 4th when RR pulls away:
Reagan 31
SV 17
Reagan makes it to STATE for the first time in school history.
longhorn3
11-30-2008, 01:59 PM
In the 1st game SV owned the clock. They ran 63 offensive plays, to Reagans 40. Give Reagan props for stopping SV deeper in their end of the field.
Sv won the yellow flag game also, especially the second to last play of the game, that set up a great Reagan pass, and catch for the win with 57 seconds left in the game.
Blame the SV coaching staff for Reagan getting the ball back in that last possesion, when all SV had to do was run a rushing play (already in Reagans territory) and punt the ball making Reagan go at least 80 yds with less than 2 minutes left. SV`s defense had been holding Reagans offense down up to that point. Odds were SV`s defense would have held them, especially with Reagan having only one time out left.
Instead the coaches opt for a pass, gets picked off, a big yellow flag for an iffy personal foul, sets up the TD play.
SV`s drop TD pass in the end zone earlier, ended up being a big factor also.
With all that said, Reagan did score more points, and pulled out a muscle match. And thats the bottom line.
Since that loss SV has reeled off 10 straight impressive wins.
Gonna be one huge physical hard hittin game!
Everyone always gives coach hill the coach of the year award but why is he still coaching HS. He makes mistakes at critical times, he is a gambler and will gamble his teams chances away...I am changing my mind...
Reagan 17
SV 14
SVite
11-30-2008, 01:59 PM
Let me preface this by saying, as a Madison fan I am impartial in this one.
With that said SVite I have to agree with the Reagan poster and say you have put a good spin on that game. Almost good enough to gain the nickname, SpinDoctor. Even in your rebuttal you have added another spin by stating that the game was played on Thursday Night in September.
Sounds like you dominated time of possession and only scored 7 points and were out gained by 5 yards. Obviously that 17+ minutes of possession were enough to beat SV that night.
This "break" and that "break" are all part of the game. I'm sure that if the pass was not intercepted and was completed for a first down you would have been saying "What a great call by Hill, allowed us to run out the clock"
Game will be won by the team who wants it the most. And yes, "breaks" (tipped passes, penalties, bad coach's decisions) will happen to both teams.
Should be a great game. I think SV will pull it out in the end.
SV 17
RR 14
Spin not, SV angle yes.
And no! Passing the ball was stupid, and Hill fessed up. Since that game, Hill has`nt been gambling like that. Just punt, or kick the short FG. Stop giving Momentum away. And thats exactly what Hill did. SV has a good enough defense to prevail.
AFBroGermany
11-30-2008, 02:00 PM
Everyone always gives coach hill the coach of the year award but why is he still coaching HS. He makes mistakes at critical times, he is a gambler and will gamble his teams chances away...I am changing my mind...
Reagan 17
SV 14
he was actually offered a few college coaching jobs but turned them down
SVite
11-30-2008, 02:01 PM
everyone always gives coach hill the coach of the year award but why is he still coaching hs. He makes mistakes at critical times, he is a gambler and will gamble his teams chances away...i am changing my mind...
Reagan 17
sv 14
lol! :D
longhorn3
11-30-2008, 02:08 PM
Spin not, SV angle yes.
And no! Passing the ball was stupid, and Hill fessed up. Since that game, Hill has`nt been gambling like that. Just punt, or kick the short FG. Stop giving Momentum away. And thats exactly what Hill did. SV has a good enough defense to prevail.
Ok since you said Hill won't gamble and im sure i saw him at the local gamblers anonymous meeting, I will once again change my mind...
SV 5
Reagan 2
AFBroGermany
11-30-2008, 02:12 PM
Ok since you said Hill won't gamble and im sure i saw him at the local gamblers anonymous meeting, I will once again change my mind...
SV 5
Reagan 2
lol:notworthy
SVite
11-30-2008, 02:12 PM
Ok since you said Hill won't gamble and im sure i saw him at the local gamblers anonymous meeting, I will once again change my mind...
SV 5
Reagan 2
It started as a football game, and a hockey game broke out.
Both teams with a safety, and a 65 yrd fg, as time expires, bring on region 3! :D
SA_ReaganDad
11-30-2008, 02:23 PM
Some of you guys running down Coach Hill leave me scratching my head. There would be no Smithson Valley football tradition had he not created it. And a fine tradition it is. Success at every single classification, short of a state title... and there's no shame in that.
I'd defer to his judgment in the flow of a ballgame, but that's just me. You'll miss him when he's gone, whenever that is.
Believe me, there are few places where Coach Hill, his staff, and the SV program is respected more than at Reagan. Coach Wetzel on many occasions has said that he holds their work ethic, intensity, consistency, and attention to detail as a standard to shoot for. SV has achieved much over a long time period.
That said, while there is respect, there is no awe. The last time that an SV freshman team beat a Reagan freshman team was Marcus Wright's 2004 team. Yeah, a 2-4 varsity Reagan team going to SV and winning in 2006 can be called an upset... but this worm's been turning for a while, for those that have been paying attention. It's obviously not just Marcus Wright. This year's games match two programs which for the past 3 years have been pretty dead even. Reagan is no Churchill-Mac-Roosevelt, 1-and-done, flash-in-the-pan. Three consecutive trips to the Regional finals, 2006-2008 say otherwise. Katy is the only other 5A school that can claim that accomplishment.
Friday will be another great game between two great programs. I expect Reagan to give a great account of themselves. They have a habit of rising from the dead in the 4th quarter against the best competition (Warren twice, SV, and Madison). It's tough to beat a great team two time in one year. In the past two years, Reagan has succeeded at this twice (district champs O'Connor and Warren) and failed once (Judson).
If Reagan loses, I'll be in here to offer congrats. I'd say there's a coinflip chance of that happening. The future is bright, whatever the outcome.
Again, y'all take care and drive safe.
longhorn3
11-30-2008, 02:36 PM
Some of you guys running down Coach Hill leave me scratching my head. There would be no Smithson Valley football tradition had he not created it. And a fine tradition it is. Success at every single classification, short of a state title... and there's no shame in that.
I'd defer to his judgment in the flow of a ballgame, but that's just me. You'll miss him when he's gone, whenever that is.
Believe me, there are few places where Coach Hill, his staff, and the SV program is respected more than at Reagan. Coach Wetzel on many occasions has said that he holds their work ethic, intensity, consistency, and attention to detail as a standard to shoot for. SV has achieved much over a long time period.
That said, while there is respect, there is no awe. The last time that an SV freshman team beat a Reagan freshman team was Marcus Wright's 2004 team. Yeah, a 2-4 varsity Reagan team going to SV and winning in 2006 can be called an upset... but this worm's been turning for a while, for those that have been paying attention. It's obviously not just Marcus Wright. This year's games match two programs which for the past 3 years have been pretty dead even. Reagan is no Churchill-Mac-Roosevelt, 1-and-done, flash-in-the-pan. Three consecutive trips to the Regional finals, 2006-2008 say otherwise. Katy is the only other 5A school that can claim that accomplishment.
Friday will be another great game between two great programs. I expect Reagan to give a great account of themselves. They have a habit of rising from the dead in the 4th quarter against the best competition (Warren twice, SV, and Madison). It's tough to beat a great team two time in one year. In the past two years, Reagan has succeeded at this twice (district champs O'Connor and Warren) and failed once (Judson).
If Reagan loses, I'll be in here to offer congrats. I'd say there's a coinflip chance of that happening. The future is bright, whatever the outcome.
Again, y'all take care and drive safe.
I would say get the lice off your dome then...you shouldnt be scratching your dome...what is said is true..Coach hill is great..nobody said otherwise...I simply said he is a gambler and that costs you games...since then he has been seen at the local gamblers anonymous meeting and has taken care of that issue...SV wins in a close one because Coach Hill made the adjustment...
I do think i have an old bottle of head and shoulders if you need it..
DocHolliday
11-30-2008, 02:44 PM
Roosevelt beat Sv in the playoffs in 2000 by a score of 63-28. The next year, in 2001, Sv beat them in the playoffs 38-14 I believe on their way to the first state championship appearance against Denton Ryan.
DocHolliday
11-30-2008, 02:47 PM
Coach Hill takes caculated risks. From what I can tell, he always makes his decision based off of the situation, not emotion. When I think of a gambler I think of someone who just rolls the dice and sees what happens. Everytime Hill has taken a risk he has looked at it from every angle and gone through each outcome in his head.
SVite
11-30-2008, 03:07 PM
Roosevelt beat Sv in the playoffs in 2000 by a score of 63-28. The next year, in 2001, Sv beat them in the playoffs 38-14 I believe on their way to the first state championship appearance against Denton Ryan.
TR, SV were 4A then. I went to the SV win at Harlandale stadium, in there second game. SV then went on to play, and beat Neaderland at Rice stadium, in a misty cold game. Cliched a birth in the state title game, where they lost in 3 overtimes, in a hard/heavy rain game.
DocHolliday
11-30-2008, 03:35 PM
SV lost in one overtime to Denton Ryan 42-35 at Waco ISD stadium.
With that being said, my prediction is
SV- 31
RR-17
bobcat83
11-30-2008, 04:10 PM
I think it is due to damage to chairs and the blue pads...
I know I saw on one occasion during the Warren game the maintenance guy out to fix a blue pad that had fallen off in that end zone...
No it's becuase of the way they act!Their performance during the National Anthem in the Warren game was ridiculous.
And before you Reagan fans get on me as and SV backer-I have a daughter that goes to Reagan. So I do see both sides.Their behavior did get the attention of the Administration and should be toned done Friday.
Some of you guys running down Coach Hill leave me scratching my head. There would be no Smithson Valley football tradition had he not created it. And a fine tradition it is. Success at every single classification, short of a state title... and there's no shame in that.
I'd defer to his judgment in the flow of a ballgame, but that's just me. You'll miss him when he's gone, whenever that is.
Believe me, there are few places where Coach Hill, his staff, and the SV program is respected more than at Reagan. Coach Wetzel on many occasions has said that he holds their work ethic, intensity, consistency, and attention to detail as a standard to shoot for. SV has achieved much over a long time period.
That said, while there is respect, there is no awe. The last time that an SV freshman team beat a Reagan freshman team was Marcus Wright's 2004 team. Yeah, a 2-4 varsity Reagan team going to SV and winning in 2006 can be called an upset... but this worm's been turning for a while, for those that have been paying attention. It's obviously not just Marcus Wright. This year's games match two programs which for the past 3 years have been pretty dead even. Reagan is no Churchill-Mac-Roosevelt, 1-and-done, flash-in-the-pan. Three consecutive trips to the Regional finals, 2006-2008 say otherwise. Katy is the only other 5A school that can claim that accomplishment.
Friday will be another great game between two great programs. I expect Reagan to give a great account of themselves. They have a habit of rising from the dead in the 4th quarter against the best competition (Warren twice, SV, and Madison). It's tough to beat a great team two time in one year. In the past two years, Reagan has succeeded at this twice (district champs O'Connor and Warren) and failed once (Judson).
If Reagan loses, I'll be in here to offer congrats. I'd say there's a coinflip chance of that happening. The future is bright, whatever the outcome.
Again, y'all take care and drive safe.
You are correct. Reagan is no WC, Mac or TR. Each of those schools has won at least a Regional Championship.
Reagan should have gone to the playoffs in 2005, but lost to Judson by more than 22 points in the final game and choked. Then last year they were heavily favored to beat Judson in the Reg. Finals and again choked. Win at least a Regional title before you start comparing your program to Katy.
bobcat83
11-30-2008, 04:25 PM
First Game- SV made absolutley no big plays-not in the kicking game, on offense or defense.Very little succes on first down,4-5 procedure penalties and didn't finish drives.On defense they had Reagan pinned deep only to have Walls do his thing and keep drives going. Reagan made several key 3rd down conversions.
Bottom line Reagan made the big plays and SV didn't.Both teams are much better than they were at that time-on both sides of the ball. Whereas, Reagan came into the year with a veteran leader at QB-SV did not.Now that the 20 new starters from SV have 10 more games under their belt I expect it to be a little different.
It will be a good close game and again whoever makes the most big plays will win.
wizenbud
11-30-2008, 04:42 PM
SV lost in one overtime to Denton Ryan 42-35 at Waco ISD stadium.
With that being said, my prediction is
SV- 31
RR-17
I would be surprised if SV scored 31 on Reagan's defense. That's a lot of points. Reagan has a really good "D". I went with 20 points because of SV's special teams. No team better at sticking the other team deep. Forcing the 70-80 yd drives is SV's calling card this year. Reagan's offense really isn't set up to go 70-80yds a drive. Not enough playmakers to challenge a really tough "D" at SV. The game earlier in the year, was just that, early. SV has found itself since. I have a ton of respect for Reagan, but SV has the look of a team of Destiny. IMHO.
But, as always, I could be wrong. ;)
It's cool !! :D
TR hasn't been in the playoffs all that much (9 times since 1966).
The last time TR made the playoffs was 2002. We got beat in the 1st round. So, I don't think it was SV that got us that year. As a matter of fact, I don't think we have beaten SV....... ever. At least I can't remember any wins. I could be mistaken. Maybe back in the day (pre-2000).
I think CKE is right, Westlake was the team. CKE is the go to man for all-things Region 4. I would trust his post more than anyone elses, on any forum. Trust me, it burns my checks to say that. :D:Censor::p
SA Roosevelte dominated SV in 2000 beating us 63-28
SA_ReaganDad
11-30-2008, 06:00 PM
You are correct. Reagan is no WC, Mac or TR. Each of those schools has won at least a Regional Championship.
Reagan should have gone to the playoffs in 2005, but lost to Judson by more than 22 points in the final game and choked. Then last year they were heavily favored to beat Judson in the Reg. Finals and again choked. Win at least a Regional title before you start comparing your program to Katy.
Heck, throw Lee in there, too, while you're at it. Reagan's current football program must be no match for the Vols, since Tommy Kramer took them to a state title over the WF Coyotes. That's about as relevant.
My comparison was 2006-2008... what is the current momentum of these programs. I'll stack what Reagan has done in 2006-2008 (so far) compared to any 26-5A school (so far). Other schools have gone farther (though 2008 is not done), but they've also gone out much earlier in other years or not made the playoffs at all. Reagan is currently moving into a class with SV, Madison, and Judson of being a legitimate threat to win 5A Region IV any year. Churchill, Mac, and Roosevelt's current programs aren't in that class. (Mac is closest.) Neither is NB, as much success as they had in 4A.
Sure, Reagan was awful before 2005 and a lot of these other programs have impressive skins on the wall from before that. But I'm not real interested in what those schools did before Reagan opened. Mac had a great run in 2006, but they've sat out the last two post-seasons.
The Johnson split is going to cause Reagan the most pain next season. The current frosh and soph classes point to resumed success after that... and I wouldn't write off Reagan to squeeze into the 4-hole in 2009 either.
rangerpride
11-30-2008, 06:04 PM
I remember TR blowing out SV in the playoffs (maybe 2001) and went on to win state? Then the next year SV beat TR at Harlandale stadium. Little cloudy for me too. These past years start running into each other.
I`m sure someone will correct us!:)
You are correct. Back when both TR and SV were in 4A they met each other in the playoffs in back to back years. The first year Roosevelt won by a score somewhere around 63 to 21.
But the second year I think SV won 41 to 14. Both of these were 4A playoff games and the second one MAY HAVE been the year SV lost in OT in the 4A finals to Denton Ryan at Waco Stadium in the rain, which was 2001, our last year in 4A.
MADFAN#1
11-30-2008, 06:05 PM
The Johnson split is going to cause Reagan the most pain next season. The current frosh and soph classes point to resumed success after that... and I wouldn't write off Reagan to squeeze into the 4-hole in 2009 either.
I was at the game yesterday and you had an awful lot of seniors out there for the coin toss. If you make it back to the playoffs next year it will be quite an accomplishment.
TexasRed6x
11-30-2008, 06:09 PM
I would be surprised if SV scored 31 on Reagan's defense. That's a lot of points. Reagan has a really good "D". I went with 20 points because of SV's special teams. No team better at sticking the other team deep. Forcing the 70-80 yd drives is SV's calling card this year. Reagan's offense really isn't set up to go 70-80yds a drive. Not enough playmakers to challenge a really tough "D" at SV. The game earlier in the year, was just that, early. SV has found itself since. I have a ton of respect for Reagan, but SV has the look of a team of Destiny. IMHO.
But, as always, I could be wrong. ;)
I agree, I also think that SV will put a 31 spot on Reagan. I have heard a ton of talk from some friends that live in Sone Oak about how Reagan is going to be the next hot football spot on the map and would like nothing more than to take away from SV by spanking them. I hope that SV will take what they are saying and use it for motivation for Friday night.
wizenbud
11-30-2008, 06:20 PM
SA Roosevelte dominated SV in 2000 beating us 63-28
2000, yep, back in the day. But, we haven't beaten SV in 5A though, right ?
wizenbud
11-30-2008, 06:28 PM
Heck, throw Lee in there, too, while you're at it. Reagan's current football program must be no match for the Vols, since Tommy Kramer took them to a state title over the WF Coyotes. That's about as relevant.
My comparison was 2006-2008... what is the current momentum of these programs. I'll stack what Reagan has done in 2006-2008 (so far) compared to any 26-5A school (so far). Other schools have gone farther (though 2008 is not done), but they've also gone out much earlier in other years or not made the playoffs at all. Reagan is currently moving into a class with SV, Madison, and Judson of being a legitimate threat to win 5A Region IV any year. Churchill, Mac, and Roosevelt's current programs aren't in that class. (Mac is closest.) Neither is NB, as much success as they had in 4A.
Sure, Reagan was awful before 2005 and a lot of these other programs have impressive skins on the wall from before that. But I'm not real interested in what those schools did before Reagan opened. Mac had a great run in 2006, but they've sat out the last two post-seasons.
The Johnson split is going to cause Reagan the most pain next season. The current frosh and soph classes point to resumed success after that... and I wouldn't write off Reagan to squeeze into the 4-hole in 2009 either.
26-5A was filled with young teams this year. Madison, TR, and Mac, will be returning a ton of starters, next season. SV just reloads and I expect NB to be better after their first year in 26-5A. Next year will be a crap-shoot. I expect TR, Madison and SV to take 3 spots. The fourth is up for grabs. Mac and NB should challenge Reagan and Churchill for 4th. IMHO.
Heck, throw Lee in there, too, while you're at it. Reagan's current football program must be no match for the Vols, since Tommy Kramer took them to a state title over the WF Coyotes. That's about as relevant.
My comparison was 2006-2008... what is the current momentum of these programs. I'll stack what Reagan has done in 2006-2008 (so far) compared to any 26-5A school (so far). Other schools have gone farther (though 2008 is not done), but they've also gone out much earlier in other years or not made the playoffs at all. Reagan is currently moving into a class with SV, Madison, and Judson of being a legitimate threat to win 5A Region IV any year. Churchill, Mac, and Roosevelt's current programs aren't in that class. (Mac is closest.) Neither is NB, as much success as they had in 4A.
Sure, Reagan was awful before 2005 and a lot of these other programs have impressive skins on the wall from before that. But I'm not real interested in what those schools did before Reagan opened. Mac had a great run in 2006, but they've sat out the last two post-seasons.
The Johnson split is going to cause Reagan the most pain next season. The current frosh and soph classes point to resumed success after that... and I wouldn't write off Reagan to squeeze into the 4-hole in 2009 either.
2006: MacArthur - Regional Champions/State Semi Finalists
2007: Judson - Regional Champions/State Finalists & Madison - Regional Champions/State Semi Finalists
In 2006-2007, three 265A schools have won Regional Championships to make it to State. Reagan has not. The only consistency that Reagan has showed is that they choke in the big games. The Rattlers have shown that they can make a good run in the playoffs, but can't win when it matters.
So, I guess you can hang your hat on being consistently losers in the big games; But from 2006-2008, Mac, Judson and Madison have the UIL hardware to show their titles.
HSFootball#1
11-30-2008, 06:44 PM
Im going with SV, the initials that are keyed on the side of my car
Sure that's not SUV? I agree with you on the winner though.
ftballin11
11-30-2008, 06:54 PM
It started as a football game, and a hockey game broke out.
Both teams with a safety, and a 65 yrd fg, as time expires, bring on region 3! :D
Reg 3 is ready for yall. Its time for a rubber match. Ill be making the trip from houston to see who is next on the tracks as the K-Train rolls to state.
Wish yall could have been there last year.:D
rattlerfan
11-30-2008, 07:16 PM
the goatropers choke in the late round as usual...reagan by 17
gonefishin
11-30-2008, 07:21 PM
the goatropers choke in the late round as usual...reagan by 17
CHOKE????? Reagan has been past round 4 how many times.......EVER??????:confused:
This game will be a BATTLE! It will be close, could go either way. But I say RANGERS 17-13. Two GREAT programs that will be very well prepared.
rattlerfan
11-30-2008, 07:24 PM
CHOKE????? Reagan has been past round 4 how many times.......EVER??????:confused:
This game will be a BATTLE! It will be close, could go either way. But I say RANGERS 17-13. Two GREAT programs that will be very well prepared.
I am glad that they are not getting beat up like they did in the 80's (SV)..that was fun...but the goatropers definitely have some talent..as long as coach doesb't pull a brainfreeze again..they will do well...
SVite
11-30-2008, 07:36 PM
SV lost in one overtime to Denton Ryan 42-35 at Waco ISD stadium.
With that being said, my prediction is
SV- 31
RR-17
Yeah triple overtime in Waco. SV Could`nt move the ball in third overtime. What a game, of huge plays. Some of SV`s alltime great players in that game.
Blanco played right after us and won the 2A state game.
gonefishin
11-30-2008, 07:36 PM
I am glad that they are not getting beat up like they did in the 80's (SV)..that was fun...but the goatropers definitely have some talent..as long as coach doesb't pull a brainfreeze again..they will do well...
Great reply! True Rattler fan, huh? The RANGERS and Rattlers will settle it on the field, with CLASS.
SVite
11-30-2008, 07:57 PM
I am glad that they are not getting beat up like they did in the 80's (SV)..that was fun...but the goatropers definitely have some talent..as long as coach doesb't pull a brainfreeze again..they will do well...
Now were getting some snakes in the grass.
It`s gonna be fun this week. :D
mad2009
11-30-2008, 08:14 PM
I say SV for two reasons...
1) They have to not want to lose to Reagan again this year...
2) Will not make the same mistakes as the Reagan and Madison (last year) games. Hill is far from stupid...
DocHolliday
11-30-2008, 08:15 PM
Yeah triple overtime in Waco. SV Could`nt move the ball in third overtime. What a game, of huge plays. Some of SV`s alltime great players in that game.
Blanco played right after us and won the 2A state game.
I say AGAIN, it was not triple overtime. It was one overtime and DR scored to go up 42-35 and SV had it 4th and goal from about the 8 and the Bybee fumbled the snap because of the rain and picked it up right before he was sacked and just heaved one into the endzone where it was picked off. Game over. IN ONE OVERTIME. Thank you.
mad2009
11-30-2008, 08:20 PM
the goatropers choke in the late round as usual...reagan by 17
wow...seriously Reagan has its own share of bad stereotypes...
svhorns
11-30-2008, 08:25 PM
the goatropers choke in the late round as usual...reagan by 17
lol... goat ropers... nice
Reagan = Liquor store robbers
shooter
11-30-2008, 08:34 PM
lol... goat ropers... nice
Reagan = Liquor store robbers
Why would they rob it? They OWN it
Why would they rob it? They OWN it
A few years ago, several Reagan players robbed liquor stores around Stone Oak. Not too smart.
seven11
11-30-2008, 10:58 PM
My pick is SV in a close one, 17-13. It will be close all the way, and go down to the wire. Both defenses are playing exceptional football. The team that makes the fewest mistakes will win. Its hard to beat SV twice in the same season.....not impossible, but improbable. THIS IS GONNA BE A GREAT GAME!
i want to say thats what they all said to us last year and say reagan wins but i saw sv vs madison this year and the first half of RR vs madison and i just dont no how reagan beat them the first time.
my heart is saying reagan 28-20
but my mind is saying sv 35-10.
but you should all know that seven11 goes with his heart. reagan stuns um baby.
shooter
11-30-2008, 11:01 PM
i want to say thats what they all said to us last year and say reagan wins but i saw sv vs madison this year and the first half of RR vs madison and i just dont no how reagan beat them the first time.
my heart is saying reagan 28-20
but my mind is saying sv 35-10.
but you should all know that seven11 goes with his heart. reagan stuns um baby.
Wow look who got his computer up and running again
seven11
11-30-2008, 11:03 PM
Wow look who got his computer up and running again
no i still read this stuff every now and then but its not that big anymore. actually just reminds me of the memories. oh what could have been with a guy named DT.
shooter
11-30-2008, 11:05 PM
no i still read this stuff every now and then but its not that big anymore. actually just reminds me of the memories. oh what could have been with a guy named DT.
yep
seven11
11-30-2008, 11:05 PM
yep
you been good though man. i might be at this game ill have to say hi if your there. who you think is gonna take this one?
seven11
11-30-2008, 11:06 PM
and when the heck did you become hall of fame status?
shooter
11-30-2008, 11:09 PM
and when the heck did you become hall of fame status?
They are just sucking up to me so i will supply them with photos
seven11
11-30-2008, 11:10 PM
yeah i feel you. you didnt answer me though... who wins?
Dynastybegan86
11-30-2008, 11:11 PM
yeah i feel you. you didnt answer me though... who wins?
Where are you at this year...school wise I mean?
SV in a close one.
shooter
11-30-2008, 11:12 PM
yeah i feel you. you didnt answer me though... who wins?
I know I didn't answer you...
seven11
11-30-2008, 11:14 PM
Where are you at this year...school wise I mean?
SV in a close one.
i went to uiw and made the team and got moved up to chart to starting but because of my size they were lookin for someone else so i decide the school was to much and not a good fit for me so i am going to be transferring to tx state at semester and trying to walk on unless a diff offer comes to the table. did you play at katy last year or your son or anything and if so what college now...
seven11
11-30-2008, 11:17 PM
this is the roster for uiw.
Cardinals Athletics
Football Roster
Number Name Position Height Weight Home School
1 Robert Williams WR 5-8 161 Floresville Floresville
2 Eric Massoni QB 6-3 190 Cedar Park Leander
3 Dominic Hamilton CB 5-9 172 Spring Branch Smithson Valley
7 Chaz Pavliska S 5-11 198 Floresville Floresville
8 Matt Sanders CB 5-8 163 Pearland Pearland
10 Paden Lynch QB 6-5 198 D'Hanis D'Hanis
11 Joey Boyd WR 5-8 162 San Antonio Madison
12 Austin Quinney K 5-11 168 Converse Judson
16 Ryan Perez WR 5-11 172 San Antonio Churchill
17 Thomas Specia QB 6-3 215 San Antonio Reagan; C of Dupage
19 James Perez CB 5-11 165 Fredericksburg Fredericksburg
21 Jerrell Wilkerson WR 5-8 170 San Antonio Clark; Texas/Austin
22 Trent Rios RB 5-8 174 Spring Branch Smithson Valley
23 Aaron Hernandez S 6-0 180 Spring Branch Smithson Valley
24 Trey Mumme S 5-11 185 D'Hanis D'Hanis
25 Reggie Hodges RB 5-7 200 Cedar Park Leander
27 Aaron Willis S 6-3 215 San Antonio Churchill
28 Ephraim Banda S 5-9 188 San Antonio Taft
29 Mike Wright RB 5-6 165 San Antonio Reagan
31 Devan Avery CB 5-10 160 San Antonio Wagner
33 Dakota Mawyer LB 6-3 215 Spring Branch Smithson Valley
35 Tyler Fields LB 5-11 242 San Antonio Southwest
43 Trey Marquez LB 5-11 230 Eagle Pass Eagle Pass
46 Chris Vargas LB 5-9 194 San Antonio Warren
51 Daniel Soto LB 6-1 230 San Antonio Southwest
52 Alan Ford DE 6-4 218 Corpus Christi Calallen
54 Patrick Martinez OC 6-0 248 San Antonio Reagan
55 Ryan Reyes LB 5-11 230 Floresville Floresville
57 Jake Roby OL 6-5 254 Sour Lake Hardin-Jefferson
61 Kenneth Warmke OL 6-2 304 New Braunfels Canyon
65 Tony Balboa DT 6-1 255 Alice Alice
68 Michael Palacios OL 6-5 320 Alamo PSJA Memorial
69 Saul Meza K 5-8 150 San Antonio O'Connor
75 Ty Warnasch DT 6-3 297 Stockdale Stockdale
76 Jayson Hierholzer OL 6-3 290 Karnes City Karnes City
80 Andrew Mocio WR/TE/DE 6-4 200 Waco Reicher
81 Bart Fredrick WR 6-3 186 Brenham Brenham
87 Marciel Whitehurst WR 5-7 168 Converse Judson
88 Caleb Kocian TE 6-3 225 Converse Judson
90 Chad Miles DE 6-4 231 San Antonio Stevens
91 Adam Brickel OL/DL 6-3 220 Floresville Floresville
95 Marcus McKenzie DE 6-1 250 San Antonio O'Connor
96 Jeremy Fields DT 6-3 274 Sweeny Sweeny
98 Randy Enriquez DE 6-0 265 Pharr PSJA North
shooter
11-30-2008, 11:19 PM
this is the roster for uiw.
Cardinals Athletics
Football Roster
Number Name Position Height Weight Home School
1 Robert Williams WR 5-8 161 Floresville Floresville
2 Eric Massoni QB 6-3 190 Cedar Park Leander
3 Dominic Hamilton CB 5-9 172 Spring Branch Smithson Valley
7 Chaz Pavliska S 5-11 198 Floresville Floresville
8 Matt Sanders CB 5-8 163 Pearland Pearland
10 Paden Lynch QB 6-5 198 D'Hanis D'Hanis
11 Joey Boyd WR 5-8 162 San Antonio Madison
12 Austin Quinney K 5-11 168 Converse Judson
16 Ryan Perez WR 5-11 172 San Antonio Churchill
17 Thomas Specia QB 6-3 215 San Antonio Reagan; C of Dupage
19 James Perez CB 5-11 165 Fredericksburg Fredericksburg
21 Jerrell Wilkerson WR 5-8 170 San Antonio Clark; Texas/Austin
22 Trent Rios RB 5-8 174 Spring Branch Smithson Valley
23 Aaron Hernandez S 6-0 180 Spring Branch Smithson Valley
24 Trey Mumme S 5-11 185 D'Hanis D'Hanis
25 Reggie Hodges RB 5-7 200 Cedar Park Leander
27 Aaron Willis S 6-3 215 San Antonio Churchill
28 Ephraim Banda S 5-9 188 San Antonio Taft
29 Mike Wright RB 5-6 165 San Antonio Reagan
31 Devan Avery CB 5-10 160 San Antonio Wagner
33 Dakota Mawyer LB 6-3 215 Spring Branch Smithson Valley
35 Tyler Fields LB 5-11 242 San Antonio Southwest
43 Trey Marquez LB 5-11 230 Eagle Pass Eagle Pass
46 Chris Vargas LB 5-9 194 San Antonio Warren
51 Daniel Soto LB 6-1 230 San Antonio Southwest
52 Alan Ford DE 6-4 218 Corpus Christi Calallen
54 Patrick Martinez OC 6-0 248 San Antonio Reagan
55 Ryan Reyes LB 5-11 230 Floresville Floresville
57 Jake Roby OL 6-5 254 Sour Lake Hardin-Jefferson
61 Kenneth Warmke OL 6-2 304 New Braunfels Canyon
65 Tony Balboa DT 6-1 255 Alice Alice
68 Michael Palacios OL 6-5 320 Alamo PSJA Memorial
69 Saul Meza K 5-8 150 San Antonio O'Connor
75 Ty Warnasch DT 6-3 297 Stockdale Stockdale
76 Jayson Hierholzer OL 6-3 290 Karnes City Karnes City
80 Andrew Mocio WR/TE/DE 6-4 200 Waco Reicher
81 Bart Fredrick WR 6-3 186 Brenham Brenham
87 Marciel Whitehurst WR 5-7 168 Converse Judson
88 Caleb Kocian TE 6-3 225 Converse Judson
90 Chad Miles DE 6-4 231 San Antonio Stevens
91 Adam Brickel OL/DL 6-3 220 Floresville Floresville
95 Marcus McKenzie DE 6-1 250 San Antonio O'Connor
96 Jeremy Fields DT 6-3 274 Sweeny Sweeny
98 Randy Enriquez DE 6-0 265 Pharr PSJA North
Quinney took your number
seven11
11-30-2008, 11:21 PM
Quinney took your number
thats what i hear but i think its just cus his jersey ripped so they just gave him that one. at least that is what he told me. its alright i think they are bringing in michale crabtree and usain bolt at wideout for next year.
shooter
11-30-2008, 11:22 PM
thats what i hear but i think its just cus his jersey ripped so they just gave him that one. at least that is what he told me. its alright i think they are bringing in michale crabtree and usain bolt at wideout for next year.
They need some BIG EATERS up front right now
seven11
11-30-2008, 11:25 PM
i wish them the best of luck next year and the following years. just like i hope madison does good even though i dont go there. and of course i hope UT does good but they went like 5-7 this year... im talkin about the real UT for those thinkin they went 11-1. The University of Tennessee.
rattlerfan
11-30-2008, 11:26 PM
we need some more size on OL and some bigger backs...
seven11
11-30-2008, 11:28 PM
who is rattlerfan? reveal yourself
Dynastybegan86
11-30-2008, 11:31 PM
i went to uiw and made the team and got moved up to chart to starting but because of my size they were lookin for someone else so i decide the school was to much and not a good fit for me so i am going to be transferring to tx state at semester and trying to walk on unless a diff offer comes to the table. did you play at katy last year or your son or anything and if so what college now...
It's been a LOOONNNGGG time since I donned the Red! I just remember you from the semi game and our PM's. Haven't seen you on the board in a while so I was curious as to how you were. Best wishes to you wherever you end up!:)
All righty,
My turn.
First of all, the Denton Ryan/SV game was a single overtime game . It only seemed like triple overtime, because it NEVER QUIT RAINING. EVER.
Not unlike the Nederland game the week before. It RAINED AND NEVER STOPPED. Well, I THINK it stopped as we were walking back to the parking lot!
Okay, Reagan/SV. This year.
Winner won't score over 24. Defensive struggle, IMO.
SV is VERY good at rematch games. While others use this example, the Westlake game is not a good one. Many forget that Westlake changed coaches DURING the season.
The first Reagan/SV game is one I did not see this season. It looks to me, that BOTH teams have VERY good defenses. I saw a chink in SV's defensive armor last weekend. Here is hoping that it gets rectified.
What will win the game for SV, will be balance on Offense. Never let Reagan get SV in positions, where offense becomes predictable. That is never easy against good defensive teams (SV, Reagan, Plugerville, etc.).
The same can be said for Reagan. If they find a way to start moving the ball against SV, it could be a long day.
Know your friends well, and your enemy better.
I think SV by 10. Any closer, and it can go either way, IMO.
While I am on here predicting, can ANYBODY give me some sort of explanation of Hill's timeout calling these last two weeks? I see NO reason for it AT ALL.
Okay, carry on.
DocHolliday
12-01-2008, 08:36 AM
He did it at the end of the O'Connor game too. I imagine it is to get some of the kids who don't play some extra time. Those kids work hard all week so I guess he decided to give them more than one play to kneel it down. Also he wants to get some young guys some playing time so when they get their shot they won't be shell shocked.
bobcat83
12-01-2008, 08:46 AM
He did it at the end of the O'Connor game too. I imagine it is to get some of the kids who don't play some extra time. Those kids work hard all week so I guess he decided to give them more than one play to kneel it down. Also he wants to get some young guys some playing time so when they get their shot they won't be shell shocked.
It was all for playing time.Don't think Padron(OC) minded it but the SW coach wasn't too pleased.
It was all for playing time.Don't think Padron(OC) minded it but the SW coach wasn't too pleased.
Actually, I watched the SW coach (Matt Elliott, is it?) AFTER the game, and he didn't seem as worked up about that, as MANY other things during the game. He and Hill shaked hands and had their hands on the shoulder. Earlier in the day, Elliott seemed to spend as much time between the sideline and his hashmark, as ON the sideline. I kept waitin for the ref to flag him. The ref kept wavin him back!
As for the timeouts that late in the game, with absolutely NO reason (other than giving players reps), I find that hard to believe. I can see no other reason either, though. As well prepped as Hill's teams are, why would he call timeout(s) to get players in position?
DocHolliday
12-01-2008, 09:02 AM
Because a lot of the back ups are seniors and they want to be able to say they got to do more than take a knee in a playoff game. He is just rewarding his players who have stuck it out for 4 years knowing they were probably not going to play.
Because a lot of the back ups are seniors and they want to be able to say they got to do more than take a knee in a playoff game. He is just rewarding his players who have stuck it out for 4 years knowing they were probably not going to play.
As a coach (and Coach Hill is a very good Coach), you wouldn't risk this sort of behavior if you are up less than a score.
Something tells me, that we may have seen this for the last time this season.
Course, Coach Hill has proven me wrong before.
:D
DocHolliday
12-01-2008, 10:35 AM
Actually I think the reason is that he is trying to run up the score for style points for the BCS. DOES HEAD-TO-HEAD NOT MATTER! okay, got that out of my system.
SVite
12-01-2008, 01:26 PM
I say AGAIN, it was not triple overtime. It was one overtime and DR scored to go up 42-35 and SV had it 4th and goal from about the 8 and the Bybee fumbled the snap because of the rain and picked it up right before he was sacked and just heaved one into the endzone where it was picked off. Game over. IN ONE OVERTIME. Thank you.
Your right.. Denton Ryan drove 67 yrds to tie the game and sent it to overtime.
I was high five-in mr. Haney during that game, and many more around me. Voice was gone, hands were hurting, and was soaking wet. What a thriller!
In a couple more years it will be 4 OT`s !!! LOL;)
tbone55
12-01-2008, 07:40 PM
i went to uiw and made the team and got moved up to chart to starting but because of my size they were lookin for someone else so i decide the school was to much and not a good fit for me so i am going to be transferring to tx state at semester and trying to walk on unless a diff offer comes to the table. did you play at katy last year or your son or anything and if so what college now...
joey boyd? from madison?
SaRattlerFan
12-01-2008, 08:56 PM
No it's becuase of the way they act!Their performance during the National Anthem in the Warren game was ridiculous.
And before you Reagan fans get on me as and SV backer-I have a daughter that goes to Reagan. So I do see both sides.Their behavior did get the attention of the Administration and should be toned done Friday.
Agree - not only was it not appropriate, it was stupid.
rattlerfan
12-01-2008, 08:57 PM
Agree - not only was it not appropriate, it was stupid.
well said...
SaRattlerFan
12-01-2008, 09:13 PM
You are correct. Reagan is no WC, Mac or TR. Each of those schools has won at least a Regional Championship.
Reagan should have gone to the playoffs in 2005, but lost to Judson by more than 22 points in the final game and choked. Then last year they were heavily favored to beat Judson in the Reg. Finals and again choked. Win at least a Regional title before you start comparing your program to Katy.
Reagan has been playing varsity sports since 2000. Yes, Reagan hasn't won a regional championship. It's probably an elite group of schools that have won regional championships with a school less than 10 years old. I'm sure it's happened, but I'm guessing not many times.
As for "choking", Reagan has won more games than any other Region 4 team in the last 3 years. You may say they "choked", but I say it's been one hell of a run they have been on over the last 3 years.
Reagan will play their 12th playoff game in 3 years this Friday. They are 9-2 over the first 11 playoff games. You seem to measure success of a program by getting out of the Region. Yes, Mac, Madison, and Judson advanced past the Region in one of those years, but where have they been the other 2 years. Let's compare the last 3 years and tell me what program has posted better numbers:
Reagan - 3 playoff appearances, 3 regional finals, 9 wins
SV - 3 playoff appearances; 2 regional finals, 6 wins
Judson - 2 playoff appearances; advanced to state and lost final - 5 wins
Madison - 2 playoff appearances; advanced to state and lost semi-final - 5 wins
MacArthur - 1 playoff appearance; advanced to state and lost semi-final - 4 wins
The only team in Region 4 that has approached the success of Reagan in the last 3 years is Austin Westlake with 8 wins. They made the final in 2006, first round loss to Reagan last year, and are in the Div 1 regional final.
Maybe you're different, but I prefer a team that makes a deep run every year over a team that makes a deep run one year and then fails to make the playoffs the following 2 years.
DocHolliday
12-01-2008, 09:17 PM
What did Reagan do during the National Anthem at the Warren game?
shooter
12-01-2008, 09:17 PM
Reagan has been playing varsity sports since 2000. Yes, Reagan hasn't won a regional championship. It's probably an elite group of schools that have won regional championships with a school less than 10 years old. I'm sure it's happened, but I'm guessing not many times.
As for "choking", Reagan has won more games than any other Region 4 team in the last 3 years. You may say they "choked", but I say it's been one hell of a run they have been on over the last 3 years.
Reagan will play their 12th playoff game in 3 years this Friday. They are 9-2 over the first 11 playoff games. You seem to measure success of a program by getting out of the Region. Yes, Mac, Madison, and Judson advanced past the Region in one of those years, but where have they been the other 2 years. Let's compare the last 3 years and tell me what program has posted better numbers:
Reagan - 3 playoff appearances, 3 regional finals, 9 wins
SV - 3 playoff appearances; 2 regional finals, 6 wins
Judson - 2 playoff appearances; advanced to state and lost final - 5 wins
Madison - 2 playoff appearances; advanced to state and lost semi-final - 5 wins
MacArthur - 1 playoff appearance; advanced to state and lost semi-final - 4 wins
The only team in Region 4 that has approached the success of Reagan in the last 3 years is Austin Westlake with 8 wins. They made the final in 2006, first round loss to Reagan last year, and are in the Div 1 regional final.
Maybe you're different, but I prefer a team that makes a deep run every year over a team that makes a deep run one year and then fails to make the playoffs the following 2 years.
WOW and I thought we were in this to win State Championship Trophies not Regional Qualifier's Ribbon.....
SaRattlerFan
12-01-2008, 09:21 PM
2006: MacArthur - Regional Champions/State Semi Finalists
2007: Judson - Regional Champions/State Finalists & Madison - Regional Champions/State Semi Finalists
In 2006-2007, three 265A schools have won Regional Championships to make it to State. Reagan has not. The only consistency that Reagan has showed is that they choke in the big games. The Rattlers have shown that they can make a good run in the playoffs, but can't win when it matters.
So, I guess you can hang your hat on being consistently losers in the big games; But from 2006-2008, Mac, Judson and Madison have the UIL hardware to show their titles.
Your comments are becoming more ignorant over time - in a win or go home format, all games "matter" and all games are "big games". I would say ask Mac, but they didn't make the playoffs the last 2 years.
t-long20
12-01-2008, 09:23 PM
SV is good
SA Reagan just beat a very good SA Warren team two weeks ago.
My money is on a close victory by Reagan.
SaRattlerFan
12-01-2008, 09:28 PM
WOW and I thought we were in this to win State Championship Trophies not Regional Qualifier's Ribbon.....
So you would be happy with a team that won the Region in 2006 and didn't make the playoffs in 2007 & 2008? 9 wins in the playoffs in 3 years means nothing? If Reagan beat Westlake in 2006 and didn't make the playoffs in 07 and 08 I would be disappointed as a fan.
Using ATX's logic, you become a BYU like fan. "We won the National Championship 24 years ago and haven't sniffed it since, but we can talk about it for the next 100 years."
SaRattlerFan
12-01-2008, 09:31 PM
What did Reagan do during the National Anthem at the Warren game?
Kids that sit in the endzone were singing obnoxiously and generally making a$$es of themselves. Not the entire student body - probably 25-30 kids.
SaRattlerFan
12-01-2008, 09:39 PM
this is the roster for uiw.
Cardinals Athletics
Football Roster
Number Name Position Height Weight Home School
1 Robert Williams WR 5-8 161 Floresville Floresville
2 Eric Massoni QB 6-3 190 Cedar Park Leander
3 Dominic Hamilton CB 5-9 172 Spring Branch Smithson Valley
7 Chaz Pavliska S 5-11 198 Floresville Floresville
8 Matt Sanders CB 5-8 163 Pearland Pearland
10 Paden Lynch QB 6-5 198 D'Hanis D'Hanis
11 Joey Boyd WR 5-8 162 San Antonio Madison
12 Austin Quinney K 5-11 168 Converse Judson
16 Ryan Perez WR 5-11 172 San Antonio Churchill
17 Thomas Specia QB 6-3 215 San Antonio Reagan; C of Dupage
19 James Perez CB 5-11 165 Fredericksburg Fredericksburg
21 Jerrell Wilkerson WR 5-8 170 San Antonio Clark; Texas/Austin
22 Trent Rios RB 5-8 174 Spring Branch Smithson Valley
23 Aaron Hernandez S 6-0 180 Spring Branch Smithson Valley
24 Trey Mumme S 5-11 185 D'Hanis D'Hanis
25 Reggie Hodges RB 5-7 200 Cedar Park Leander
27 Aaron Willis S 6-3 215 San Antonio Churchill
28 Ephraim Banda S 5-9 188 San Antonio Taft
29 Mike Wright RB 5-6 165 San Antonio Reagan
31 Devan Avery CB 5-10 160 San Antonio Wagner
33 Dakota Mawyer LB 6-3 215 Spring Branch Smithson Valley
35 Tyler Fields LB 5-11 242 San Antonio Southwest
43 Trey Marquez LB 5-11 230 Eagle Pass Eagle Pass
46 Chris Vargas LB 5-9 194 San Antonio Warren
51 Daniel Soto LB 6-1 230 San Antonio Southwest
52 Alan Ford DE 6-4 218 Corpus Christi Calallen
54 Patrick Martinez OC 6-0 248 San Antonio Reagan
55 Ryan Reyes LB 5-11 230 Floresville Floresville
57 Jake Roby OL 6-5 254 Sour Lake Hardin-Jefferson
61 Kenneth Warmke OL 6-2 304 New Braunfels Canyon
65 Tony Balboa DT 6-1 255 Alice Alice
68 Michael Palacios OL 6-5 320 Alamo PSJA Memorial
69 Saul Meza K 5-8 150 San Antonio O'Connor
75 Ty Warnasch DT 6-3 297 Stockdale Stockdale
76 Jayson Hierholzer OL 6-3 290 Karnes City Karnes City
80 Andrew Mocio WR/TE/DE 6-4 200 Waco Reicher
81 Bart Fredrick WR 6-3 186 Brenham Brenham
87 Marciel Whitehurst WR 5-7 168 Converse Judson
88 Caleb Kocian TE 6-3 225 Converse Judson
90 Chad Miles DE 6-4 231 San Antonio Stevens
91 Adam Brickel OL/DL 6-3 220 Floresville Floresville
95 Marcus McKenzie DE 6-1 250 San Antonio O'Connor
96 Jeremy Fields DT 6-3 274 Sweeny Sweeny
98 Randy Enriquez DE 6-0 265 Pharr PSJA North
Had not heard Michael Wright was on the team? Must have been living under a rock.:)
KT2000
12-01-2008, 09:43 PM
I will be in the house to see the action, so I'm looking forward to a good game.
Fleeman93
12-01-2008, 09:49 PM
In my opinion, after watching round 2, I think SV is slightly better than Reagan due to a little better balance on offense. I do think Reagan has a slightly better defense (only because it looks like SV falls asleep at times) but they can be beat with the deep ball and a power running game. I would give a very slight edge to SV in this one.
rattlerfan
12-01-2008, 09:57 PM
This is going to be fun...
DocHolliday
12-01-2008, 09:59 PM
KT2000 will be in the house! I will be dressed in my finest attire!
rattlerfan
12-01-2008, 10:58 PM
KT2000 will be in the house! I will be dressed in my finest attire!
I will eat a hotdog, popcorn, peanuts, coke, and maybe some nachos...
realREAGANrattler
12-01-2008, 11:03 PM
hail REAGAN
fight fight fight
rattlerfan
12-01-2008, 11:18 PM
I will eat a hotdog, popcorn, peanuts, coke, and maybe some nachos...
I think the school should equip every kid and parent with a genuine will ferrell cowbell...freaking more cowbell throughout the whole game..
green freaking cowbells...
BandidoNB
12-01-2008, 11:29 PM
Smithson Valley 24 :notworthy:notworthy:notworthy
SA Reagan 14
AFBroGermany
12-02-2008, 06:49 AM
I think the school should equip every kid and parent with a genuine will ferrell cowbell...freaking more cowbell throughout the whole game..
green freaking cowbells...
I hate the cowbells!! during any football game i played the only thing that really got on my nerves were the stinking cowbells! They where so annoying, i like the will ferrel skit and all but during a football game i hate the things!
theres my rant im done now lol
So, the game is set for Friday evening, in the Alamodome.
What time?
7:00?
7:30?
A little help, please.
wizenbud
12-02-2008, 08:26 AM
WHOMEVER wins this game, go on and do 26-5A proud. We are all rootin' you guys on. :notworthy
DocHolliday
12-02-2008, 10:21 AM
In efforts to not let this thread die, SV WILL WIN BY 30+!
longhorn3
12-02-2008, 10:22 AM
In efforts to not let this thread die, SV WILL WIN BY 30+!
Doc Holliday, i didnt know they had crack houses back in your day..please sir, stay away from the drugs
svalumnus03
12-02-2008, 10:30 AM
I say AGAIN, it was not triple overtime. It was one overtime and DR scored to go up 42-35 and SV had it 4th and goal from about the 8 and the Bybee fumbled the snap because of the rain and picked it up right before he was sacked and just heaved one into the endzone where it was picked off. Game over. IN ONE OVERTIME. Thank you.
Actually it was third down. Bybee thought it was 4th down however because the marker was wrong on the side line. That is why he threw it away. He would not have thrown over the middle on a third down play if he had known that was the down. He wasn't picked up by Army for no reason.
bobcat83
12-02-2008, 10:46 AM
SV vs Reagan-some call it the Town and Country Bowl.These kids don't hang out together but go to the same movie theatres,work out at the same Lifetime Fitness etc...Plenty of money in both communities-even the "goatropers" as one Rattler Fan as termed them.Some observations and/ot matchups:
Jacob Brown SV QB vs Derrick Walls Reagan QB- A 3 year starter in Walls who has had tremendous success.He garners most of the publicity and rightly so.Definately a playmaker who's teams offensive success hinges on his ability to make big plays. Brown has quietly become one of the best QB's in the area.His stats aren't going to jump off the page. But if you look at the last 10 games you will be suprised.These 2 are alot more alike than one might think.
Will McLane SV Center vs Spence Nealy Reagan NG- A direct matchup that could determine the outcome of this game.Again-The Reagan player Nealy garners the publicity.He is obviously very good. McLane is the lone returning starter on SV's offense from last year(at Tight End).Very unselfish and extremely intense.Nealy's toughest matchup this year by far! Should be fun to watch.
Ryan Wood SV strong safety vs LeQuence McCall Reagan S and Baylor commit.Again the accolades and publicity goes to the Reagan player.Wood-the lone returning starter on the SV defense quietly does his job and does it extremely well.McCall(whom I think is actually the 2nd best DB on Reagan's team to Davis) is athletic, some say obnoxious(even to his coaches) and loves the big hit.Can he contain the 6'4" Cody Mathews who has tremendous speed and has become SV's big play guy?
A reoccuring theme is that when comparing these players is that all the publicity and noterity points towards the Reagan players.Larry Hill and the players themselves would have no other way.There are no ego's on the SV team.
Both sides-players,fans etc... are cautiously optimistic about this game.I don't think you can take much from the first game. However, I do think that SV has improved in all areas by leaps and bounds.If they execute their gameplan-which by the way doesn't really change much from week to week-they will win.But then again we will have to wait until Friday nite to find out!
longhorn3
12-02-2008, 11:10 AM
SV vs Reagan-some call it the Town and Country Bowl.These kids don't hang out together but go to the same movie theatres,work out at the same Lifetime Fitness etc...Plenty of money in both communities-even the "goatropers" as one Rattler Fan as termed them.Some observations and/ot matchups:
Jacob Brown SV QB vs Derrick Walls Reagan QB- A 3 year starter in Walls who has had tremendous success.He garners most of the publicity and rightly so.Definately a playmaker who's teams offensive success hinges on his ability to make big plays. Brown has quietly become one of the best QB's in the area.His stats aren't going to jump off the page. But if you look at the last 10 games you will be suprised.These 2 are alot more alike than one might think.
Will McLane SV Center vs Spence Nealy Reagan NG- A direct matchup that could determine the outcome of this game.Again-The Reagan player Nealy garners the publicity.He is obviously very good. McLane is the lone returning starter on SV's offense from last year(at Tight End).Very unselfish and extremely intense.Nealy's toughest matchup this year by far! Should be fun to watch.
Ryan Wood SV strong safety vs LeQuence McCall Reagan S and Baylor commit.Again the accolades and publicity goes to the Reagan player.Wood-the lone returning starter on the SV defense quietly does his job and does it extremely well.McCall(whom I think is actually the 2nd best DB on Reagan's team to Davis) is athletic, some say obnoxious(even to his coaches) and loves the big hit.Can he contain the 6'4" Cody Mathews who has tremendous speed and has become SV's big play guy?
A reoccuring theme is that when comparing these players is that all the publicity and noterity points towards the Reagan players.Larry Hill and the players themselves would have no other way.There are no ego's on the SV team.
Both sides-players,fans etc... are cautiously optimistic about this game.I don't think you can take much from the first game. However, I do think that SV has improved in all areas by leaps and bounds.If they execute their gameplan-which by the way doesn't really change much from week to week-they will win.But then again we will have to wait until Friday nite to find out!
Why can you not take much from the first game? I think SV will win this game but why could you not take the fact that they beat you the first game? only thing you come up with is an excuse of why you lost...Reagan won the game plain and simple...Now its your turn to flip it around and I don't want to hear reagan with all kinds of excuses...
bobcat83
12-02-2008, 11:17 AM
Why can you not take much from the first game? I think SV will win this game but why could you not take the fact that they beat you the first game? only thing you come up with is an excuse of why you lost...Reagan won the game plain and simple...Now its your turn to flip it around and I don't want to hear reagan with all kinds of excuses...
Excuses? I am not making any excuses! The only thing I said in a summary of the game was that Reagan made the plays to win a game and SV didn't. That what happens in every game. Reagan won plain and simple.The reason I don't take alot from the game is that SV is a much different team as is Reagan. That was the 3rd game for 20 new starters. They now have 13 games under their belt. Reagan is also better.
I believe you know football pretty well so you should understand.The schemes and gameplans for either team aren't going to change much. But the players on both sides are just plain better at executing them than they were 10 weeks ago.
SVite
12-02-2008, 11:22 AM
Reagan has been playing varsity sports since 2000. Yes, Reagan hasn't won a regional championship. It's probably an elite group of schools that have won regional championships with a school less than 10 years old. I'm sure it's happened, but I'm guessing not many times.
As for "choking", Reagan has won more games than any other Region 4 team in the last 3 years. You may say they "choked", but I say it's been one hell of a run they have been on over the last 3 years.
Reagan will play their 12th playoff game in 3 years this Friday. They are 9-2 over the first 11 playoff games. You seem to measure success of a program by getting out of the Region. Yes, Mac, Madison, and Judson advanced past the Region in one of those years, but where have they been the other 2 years. Let's compare the last 3 years and tell me what program has posted better numbers:
Reagan - 3 playoff appearances, 3 regional finals, 9 wins
SV - 3 playoff appearances; 2 regional finals, 6 wins
Judson - 2 playoff appearances; advanced to state and lost final - 5 wins
Madison - 2 playoff appearances; advanced to state and lost semi-final - 5 wins
MacArthur - 1 playoff appearance; advanced to state and lost semi-final - 4 wins
The only team in Region 4 that has approached the success of Reagan in the last 3 years is Austin Westlake with 8 wins. They made the final in 2006, first round loss to Reagan last year, and are in the Div 1 regional final.
Maybe you're different, but I prefer a team that makes a deep run every year over a team that makes a deep run one year and then fails to make the playoffs the following 2 years.
Good thing the UIL lets 4 teams in now. Reagan has used that new rule pretty good!
I remember when you had to be district champion to go to the play-offs. Just get 3rd or 4th now, and you have a play off history.....:D
chop44
12-02-2008, 11:42 AM
Regional Championship game was played in round one when SV beat Pville 14-7. Gotta go with SV, but in a tight game. Now I'm going to jump in my fox hole and take cover.:)
wizenbud
12-02-2008, 11:49 AM
Regional Championship game was played in round one when SV beat Pville 14-7. Gotta go with SV, but in a tight game. Now I'm going to jump in my fox hole and take cover.:)
Might be a good idea. :D For all of us. :p
bobcat83
12-02-2008, 12:20 PM
so, the game is set for friday evening, in the alamodome.
What time?
7:00?
7:30?
A little help, please.
7:30
Reaganrattler07
12-02-2008, 12:30 PM
Regional Championship game was played in round one when SV beat Pville 14-7. Gotta go with SV, but in a tight game. Now I'm going to jump in my fox hole and take cover.:)
So was State determined in Week 0?;)
bobcat83
12-02-2008, 12:52 PM
So was State determined in Week 0?;)
For D1 with Trinity it probably was!
D2 still to be determined:D
SaRattlerFan
12-02-2008, 02:03 PM
Good thing the UIL lets 4 teams in now. Reagan has used that new rule pretty good!
I remember when you had to be district champion to go to the play-offs. Just get 3rd or 4th now, and you have a play off history.....:D
Thanks for helping me make a point - being a #2 district seed in the division 2 of the 3 years makes the run even better.
bobcat83
12-02-2008, 02:11 PM
Thanks for helping me make a point - being a #2 district seed in the division 2 of the 3 years makes the run even better.
Your not seriously trying to compare these 2 programs are you?
Reagan has had success and should be proud. But these 2 entirely different animals.Compare them 10-15 years from now and then you will have more relevent data.And yes the fact that 4 teams make the playoffs creates a whole different interpretation of the playoff success.
SaRattlerFan
12-02-2008, 02:30 PM
Your not seriously trying to compare these 2 programs are you?
Reagan has had success and should be proud. But these 2 entirely different animals.Compare them 10-15 years from now and then you will have more relevent data.And yes the fact that 4 teams make the playoffs creates a whole different interpretation of the playoff success.
I made a comparison of THE LAST THREE YEARS based off ATX's statement Reagan has "choked" in the playoffs.
I certainly understand there are a lot of programs in San Antonio with longer, more distinguished playoff histories.
saMavsFan
12-02-2008, 02:30 PM
Either way this one goes, region 4 will be well represented in the semifinals. I've got to give SV the slight advantage. For years now they've had the ability to match up against teams who have been executing perfectly all season long and make them make a mistake.
I know it seems trite, but if Reagan plays the full 48 minutes and doesn't get antsy if they are behind at all, Reagan's got more than a good shot at winning.
Both teams have great kicking games, so field position could play a huge role in this one. Could come down to PATs as well.
With the defenses these teams have, one turn over won't make or break the game, but I've got a feeling that each team will need every offensive opportunity they can get their hands on.
Like I said, either way this goes, 265a will have one hell of a representative in the semifinals. Good luck to both teams. Play hard and stay healthy!
SaRattlerFan
12-02-2008, 02:41 PM
Good thing the UIL lets 4 teams in now. Reagan has used that new rule pretty good!
I remember when you had to be district champion to go to the play-offs. Just get 3rd or 4th now, and you have a play off history.....:D
One more thing, the last time I checked, the 4 team rule applies to everyone. It should be easier than before for the traditional powerhouses to advance and win games in the playoffs when the are facing an inferior 3rd or 4th place team.:rolleyes:
bobcat83
12-02-2008, 02:41 PM
I made a comparison of THE LAST THREE YEARS based off ATX's statement Reagan has "choked" in the playoffs.
I certainly understand there are a lot of programs in San Antonio with longer, more distinguished playoff histories.
oh-didn't catch that.They haven't choked and most of his comments don't make alot of sense.
MADFAN#1
12-02-2008, 05:16 PM
Watched both teams play their last two games and have the following opinion:
Reagan's offense has been sleep walking for the first half in both games. Came alive after defense has stepped it up and made an important stop.
SV has been, well, SV. They have been playing consistent team ball. Made a few mistakes against Southwest but it did not hurt them and they dominated O'C except for two screen plays.
With that said Reagan's offense cannot afford to take the first half off against SV. SV, on the other hand cannot afford to make mistakes against RR and get away with it.
I see RR's offense struggling again and SV playing their consistent game. With that SV will win by two scores, either 2tds or 1td and 1fg.
DocHolliday
12-02-2008, 05:32 PM
Doc Holliday, i didnt know they had crack houses back in your day..please sir, stay away from the drugs
Have you not seen Tombstone? Those guys at the end are smoking Opium with the Chinese guys when Wyatt comes in and replaces the pipe with a gun :notworthy and anyways, I'm not that ignorant to think SV will win by 30, I was just trying to stir up something to get the thread going again :ninja:
rattlerfan
12-02-2008, 05:37 PM
Reagan rolls on turnovers...fumblin bumblin....it's in their head...
bobcat83
12-02-2008, 05:41 PM
Reagan rolls on turnovers...fumblin bumblin....it's in their head...
Man or boy you are irritating! Did you just get home from school? Are you one of the people that sit in the endzone painted up acting like a fool?
rattlerfan
12-02-2008, 05:45 PM
Man or boy you are irritating! Did you just get home from school? Are you one of the people that sit in the endzone painted up acting like a fool?
no I am the same guy that made short tempered football players get a penalty..miss a block...jump offsides..late hits..all the mental stuff..you know the important part of the game..thanks for the demonstration...
Bottomline
12-02-2008, 05:46 PM
Gotta go with SV ... Nothing fancy just getting it done.
Forward Pass
12-02-2008, 05:47 PM
From Cinco Ranch......
Best of luck this weekend, San Antonio Reagan!!! We'll be pulling for you!!
bobcat83
12-02-2008, 05:52 PM
no I am the same guy that made short tempered football players get a penalty..miss a block...jump offsides..late hits..all the mental stuff..you know the important part of the game..thanks for the demonstration...
It wasn't a demonstration-it was an observation.And I am very well versed in the mental part of the game thank you very much.But you have answered my question-you talk alot of :Censor:The kind of guy I ignored when playing and the kind SV players ignore.
rattlerfan
12-02-2008, 07:09 PM
It wasn't a demonstration-it was an observation.And I am very well versed in the mental part of the game thank you very much.But you have answered my question-you talk alot of :Censor:The kind of guy I ignored when playing and the kind SV players ignore.
another demonstration..i mean observation...
ReaganRattlerDad
12-02-2008, 07:49 PM
Good thing the UIL lets 4 teams in now. Reagan has used that new rule pretty good!
I remember when you had to be district champion to go to the play-offs. Just get 3rd or 4th now, and you have a play off history.....:D
You bet, and without the rule change, SV would be sitting at home this year.
#1texasgreat
12-02-2008, 07:55 PM
so then without the rule change this would be regans first playoff appereance?;) lol
rattlerfan
12-02-2008, 07:57 PM
From Cinco Ranch......
Best of luck this weekend, San Antonio Reagan!!! We'll be pulling for you!!
Katy Cinco Ranch...now that is a class act!
ReaganRattlerDad
12-02-2008, 08:02 PM
so then without the rule change this would be regans first playoff appereance?;) lol
True, and if frogs had wings, they could fly. Everyone has played by the same rules each year, so it is a matter of what you do with respect to the cards you are dealt that year. Reagan has a long way to go to compare to the SV's, Judsons, etc. But it has done a great job of moving the program to the next level.
Reaganrattler07
12-02-2008, 08:49 PM
Gotta go with SV ... Nothing fancy just getting it done.
I remember you from SaSports.....do you always choose the people who Reagan plays? Or do I just notice that whenever you offer your two cents its your opinion that Reagan will lose?
Reaganrattler07
12-02-2008, 08:50 PM
Man or boy you are irritating! Did you just get home from school? Are you one of the people that sit in the endzone painted up acting like a fool?
That wasn't very nice....:(
You bet, and without the rule change, SV would be sitting at home this year.
I would like to know how you came up with this...this year the district title was SHARED by Reagan and SV.The head to head only decided who went first and second seed...if we were only sending one team to the playoffs from each district like the old days then a coin flip would decied who moves on since both teams still have the same district record.
rattlerfan
12-02-2008, 09:48 PM
I would like to know how you came up with this...this year the district title was SHARED by Reagan and SV.The head to head only decided who went first and second seed...if we were only sending one team to the playoffs from each district like the old days then a coin flip would decied who moves on since both teams still have the same district record.
well said...I'll believe you this time.
bobby722
12-02-2008, 10:07 PM
This is completely off the SV subject, but I'm curious...does anyone know what the final attendence was for the Reagan / Los Fresnos game in Kingsville? I attended Texas A&I (before it was A&M) and don't remember seeing the stands that full even at a college game.
Sitting on the Reagan side, all I could see was a sea of maroon across the field. I understand that Reagan also had a good showing but from my vantage point it was hard to tell.
I will say that the Los Fresnos folks are extremely proud of their football team and the support they show is admirable. The entire city is behind them. That's what Texas High School Football is all about. Hats off to LF and congrats to Reagan for a great win. I'll be in the Alamodome Friday night for what will no doubt be one heck-of-a football game.
ReaganRattlerDad
12-02-2008, 10:11 PM
I would like to know how you came up with this...this year the district title was SHARED by Reagan and SV.The head to head only decided who went first and second seed...if we were only sending one team to the playoffs from each district like the old days then a coin flip would decied who moves on since both teams still have the same district record.
Actually, in the old days, Reagan would have gone without the coin flip.
DocHolliday
12-02-2008, 11:17 PM
Okay, as much as it pains me to say it; I have been impressed with what Reagan has done the past couple of years. Beating Sv 2 out of their last 3 meetings is impressive; regardless of how I think the game should have turned out none the less they are wins. For the two years prior to this one I would always say, "Well they would be nothing without Marcus Wright" and I thought my assuption was correct at the beginning of the year; but they proved me, and a lot of others wrong by doing as well as they have done this year. If I was a rattler fan I would probably making the same arguments. So, I guess what I am trying to say is, kudos to the Regan Rattlers. Gosh that was painful. Now, with that being said there are some things that RR has done in the past to make me dislike them (as I am sure SV has done some things to make Reagan fans feel the same) and they have not earned my FULL respect yet, but they are gettin there. SHOULD BE A GREAT GAME!
cazzy
12-02-2008, 11:26 PM
Okay, as much as it pains me to say it; I have been impressed with what Reagan has done the past couple of years. Beating Sv 2 out of their last 3 meetings is impressive; regardless of how I think the game should have turned out none the less they are wins. For the two years prior to this one I would always say, "Well they would be nothing without Marcus Wright" and I thought my assuption was correct at the beginning of the year; but they proved me, and a lot of others wrong by doing as well as they have done this year. If I was a rattler fan I would probably making the same arguments. So, I guess what I am trying to say is, kudos to the Regan Rattlers. Gosh that was painful. Now, with that being said there are some things that RR has done in the past to make me dislike them (as I am sure SV has done some things to make Reagan fans feel the same) and they have not earned my FULL respect yet, but they are gettin there. SHOULD BE A GREAT GAME!
One thing that I will always remember about the Smithson Valley game two years ago...was the grossly strong smell of manure that was placed under the bleachers on the visitor side. I understand pranks, but I felt it was very immature and unnecessary.
BandidoNB
12-02-2008, 11:41 PM
One thing that I will always remember about the Smithson Valley game two years ago...was the grossly strong smell of manure that was placed under the bleachers on the visitor side. I understand pranks, but I felt it was very immature and unnecessary.
That probably wasnt a prank - when NB played SV I smelled some manure or sewage or something towards the top of the visitors stands. Must be a nearby sewage tank or leaking pipe or something.
That probably wasnt a prank - when NB played SV I smelled some manure or sewage or something towards the top of the visitors stands. Must be a nearby sewage tank or leaking pipe or something.
sadly that is the case we use to have to practice on the bottome field alomst behind the visitor stands before we got turf and we smelled it every day
DocHolliday
12-03-2008, 12:23 AM
Yeah that is no prank. Like the others have said, the sewage system is right by the practicefield which is right behind the visitor bleachers.
Shadowweaver
12-03-2008, 12:30 AM
That probably wasnt a prank - when NB played SV I smelled some manure or sewage or something towards the top of the visitors stands. Must be a nearby sewage tank or leaking pipe or something.
:laugh:laugh:laugh:laugh:laugh
saMavsFan
12-03-2008, 02:16 AM
I think the first match-up this year can be deceiving. SV has come leaps and bounds since week 1 of district play.
Just thinking about it though, I won't say that Reagan hasn't improved in the time since that game because every team does. I just think Reagan has been nearly this good all year long and hasn't gotten enough credit for it.
I'll be there in person Friday night. Just can't miss this one. I have a good feeling it will be one of the better games in San Antonio for the entire year.
OUCH! That was kinda rude labeling Madison and Roosevelt "inferior" teams.
RedRage00
12-03-2008, 08:23 AM
That probably wasnt a prank - when NB played SV I smelled some manure or sewage or something towards the top of the visitors stands. Must be a nearby sewage tank or leaking pipe or something.
The one time I went to Ranger stadium I was too cold to notice any smell. lol
Reagan has been playing varsity sports since 2000. Yes, Reagan hasn't won a regional championship. It's probably an elite group of schools that have won regional championships with a school less than 10 years old. I'm sure it's happened, but I'm guessing not many times.
As for "choking", Reagan has won more games than any other Region 4 team in the last 3 years. You may say they "choked", but I say it's been one hell of a run they have been on over the last 3 years.
Reagan will play their 12th playoff game in 3 years this Friday. They are 9-2 over the first 11 playoff games. You seem to measure success of a program by getting out of the Region. Yes, Mac, Madison, and Judson advanced past the Region in one of those years, but where have they been the other 2 years. Let's compare the last 3 years and tell me what program has posted better numbers:
Reagan - 3 playoff appearances, 3 regional finals, 9 wins
SV - 3 playoff appearances; 2 regional finals, 6 wins
Judson - 2 playoff appearances; advanced to state and lost final - 5 wins
Madison - 2 playoff appearances; advanced to state and lost semi-final - 5 wins
MacArthur - 1 playoff appearance; advanced to state and lost semi-final - 4 wins
The only team in Region 4 that has approached the success of Reagan in the last 3 years is Austin Westlake with 8 wins. They made the final in 2006, first round loss to Reagan last year, and are in the Div 1 regional final.
Maybe you're different, but I prefer a team that makes a deep run every year over a team that makes a deep run one year and then fails to make the playoffs the following 2 years.
All your pointing to is Reagans failure to win the big game. Will they choke again this Friday? We'll see. But yes, I prefer my team to win the big games and earn at least a Regional title, than choking when it counts.
Reagan HS is the only current 265A team to have never won a Regional Championship.
SaRattlerFan
12-03-2008, 09:06 AM
All your pointing to is Reagans failure to win the big game. Will they choke again this Friday? We'll see. But yes, I prefer my team to win the big games and earn at least a Regional title, than choking when it counts.
Reagan HS is the only current 265A team to have never won a Regional Championship.
As I've pointed out on many occassions, with each post you continue to show your ignorance.
"Choking when it counts?" The first 3 games didn't count the last 3 years?
So it's only a "Big Game" in the playoffs if you're playing for the Regional title. I'm guessing SV and P-ville fans would disagree with you - that first round game was a "Big Game". All playoff games are "Big Games" when it's win or go home.
You may want to check your 26-5A facts again. They're wrong. I know at least one other team hasn't won a 5A regional championship and there may be 2 (not sure on NB and 5A).
P.S. - Where has your team been the last 2 years - HOME during the playoffs!
As I've pointed out on many occassions, with each post you continue to show your ignorance.
So it's only a "Big Game" in the playoffs if you're playing for the Regional title. I'm guessing SV and P-ville fans would disagree with you - that first round game was a "Big Game". All playoff games are "Big Games" when it's win or go home.
You may want to check your 26-5A facts again. They're wrong. I know at least one other team hasn't won a 5A regional championship and there may be 2 (not sure on NB and 5A).
P.S. - Where has your team been the last 2 years - HOME during the playoffs!
The only other team to not win it is a first year team that is the little brother of Reagan. New Braunels won it in 1997
SaRattlerFan
12-03-2008, 09:38 AM
The only other team to not win it is a first year team that is the little brother of Reagan. New Braunels won it in 1997
Thanks for the info on NB - should have known that. I think it's fair to compare Reagan to teams since Reagan opened in 2000 - since that time, Mac, SV, Judson (when they were in 26-5A),and Madison have won Regional championships.
TEAMFALCON
12-03-2008, 09:39 AM
Reagan has been playing varsity sports since 2000. Yes, Reagan hasn't won a regional championship. It's probably an elite group of schools that have won regional championships with a school less than 10 years old. I'm sure it's happened, but I'm guessing not many times.
As for "choking", Reagan has won more games than any other Region 4 team in the last 3 years. You may say they "choked", but I say it's been one hell of a run they have been on over the last 3 years.
Reagan will play their 12th playoff game in 3 years this Friday. They are 9-2 over the first 11 playoff games. You seem to measure success of a program by getting out of the Region. Yes, Mac, Madison, and Judson advanced past the Region in one of those years, but where have they been the other 2 years. Let's compare the last 3 years and tell me what program has posted better numbers:
Reagan - 3 playoff appearances, 3 regional finals, 9 wins
SV - 3 playoff appearances; 2 regional finals, 6 wins
Judson - 2 playoff appearances; advanced to state and lost final - 5 wins
Madison - 2 playoff appearances; advanced to state and lost semi-final - 5 wins
MacArthur - 1 playoff appearance; advanced to state and lost semi-final - 4 wins
The only team in Region 4 that has approached the success of Reagan in the last 3 years is Austin Westlake with 8 wins. They made the final in 2006, first round loss to Reagan last year, and are in the Div 1 regional final.
Maybe you're different, but I prefer a team that makes a deep run every year over a team that makes a deep run one year and then fails to make the playoffs the following 2 years.
Los Fresons 4 in a row since coach Ford arrived. 1 area loss and 3 third round losses in a row.- 7 wins. Still a long way to go, but HUGE steps since Coach Ford arrived.
shooter
12-03-2008, 09:43 AM
All your pointing to is Reagans failure to win the big game. Will they choke again this Friday? We'll see. But yes, I prefer my team to win the big games and earn at least a Regional title, than choking when it counts.
Reagan HS is the only current 265A team to have never won a Regional Championship.
i can't wait to go by Johnson High School and see their Regional Championship Trophy in the Trophy case. I know it wont be hard to miss as there is not much in there right now....
Los Fresons 4 in a row since coach Ford arrived. 1 area loss and 3 third round losses in a row.- 7 wins. Still a long way to go, but HUGE steps since Coach Ford arrived.
KUDOS to Los Fresnos for a great season. I was rooting for you to upset Reagan, but then I know the Rangers really wanted a re-match!
DocHolliday
12-03-2008, 09:50 AM
Dang, is it really only Wednesday? I'm ready for kickoff right now!
TEAMFALCON
12-03-2008, 09:57 AM
KUDOS to Los Fresnos for a great season. I was rooting for you to upset Reagan, but then I know the Rangers really wanted a re-match!
What a game you guys have in store this weekend.
Both teams from the same district, marched through the playoffs to meet up for the Region IV Championship game.
Many don't like the 4 team playoff system, saying that some teams have to play 'hard' teams in the first round, and get knocked off.
Others don't like the fact that the RGV (by not fault of their own), tend to have an 'easier' route to the 3rd round, guaranteeing RGV teams in the 3rd round...
But this game, this district, as last year, proves a point.
If you're good, you're beat the teams in the first 2 rounds and face each other down the rode. If you're 'good', you shouldn't have to worry about the 1st 2 rounds.........
Does this make sense?
Reaganrattler07
12-03-2008, 10:08 AM
As I've pointed out on many occassions, with each post you continue to show your ignorance.
"Choking when it counts?" The first 3 games didn't count the last 3 years?
So it's only a "Big Game" in the playoffs if you're playing for the Regional title. I'm guessing SV and P-ville fans would disagree with you - that first round game was a "Big Game". All playoff games are "Big Games" when it's win or go home.
You may want to check your 26-5A facts again. They're wrong. I know at least one other team hasn't won a 5A regional championship and there may be 2 (not sure on NB and 5A).
P.S. - Where has your team been the last 2 years - HOME during the playoffs!
I'm done responding to you - it's worthless to carry on a discussion with ignorant people!
Ownage.
What a game you guys have in store this weekend.
Both teams from the same district, marched through the playoffs to meet up for the Region IV Championship game.
Many don't like the 4 team playoff system, saying that some teams have to play 'hard' teams in the first round, and get knocked off.
Others don't like the fact that the RGV (by not fault of their own), tend to have an 'easier' route to the 3rd round, guaranteeing RGV teams in the 3rd round...
But this game, this district, as last year, proves a point.
If you're good, you're beat the teams in the first 2 rounds and face each other down the rode. If you're 'good', you shouldn't have to worry about the 1st 2 rounds.........
Does this make sense?
Other than the fact, that if you finish second in your district (As SV did), you are the hunted, so to speak. If you finish second in the district, you have the chance of facing the first place team from another district. SV's first round game this year, was a very tough game. Plugerville had a VERY good defense.
DocHolliday
12-03-2008, 10:12 AM
Tell that to Pflugerville. Or Allen all those years of playing Southlake in the 2nd round when Southlake was at their peak. I would take either one of those teams, and many more, over 99% of the teams from the RGV.
TEAMFALCON
12-03-2008, 10:12 AM
Other than the fact, that if you finish second in your district (As SV did), you are the hunted, so to speak. If you finish second in the district, you have the chance of facing the first place team from another district. SV's first round game this year, was a very tough game. Plugerville had a VERY good defense.
That's sound right, 1st vs the 2nd place team.
Pflugerville could have been playing still, but, again....it goes back to my point.
TEAMFALCON
12-03-2008, 10:13 AM
Tell that to Pflugerville. Or Allen all those years of playing Southlake in the 2nd round when Southlake was at their peak. I would take either one of those teams, and many more, over 99% of the teams from the RGV.
That's not what I'm saying, far from it.
Let's see, how can I explain myself better............
Reaganrattler07
12-03-2008, 10:13 AM
The only other team to not win it is a first year team that is the little brother of Reagan. New Braunels won it in 1997
Who cares about those litte things called - 'facts'!
Here's my opinion of the game thus far. And, as much as I hate it when people do it. I'm gonna base it off of history.
IF the game is close - Reagan wins. Reagan just finds ways to come back and win or to just seal the deal in the 4th quarter.
The only way SV wins, imo, is they just blow us out. And they're capable of doing that. A few bad things don't go our way in a big game and one mistake can result in 7 points. So mistakes - for either side.
So here's my biases prediction.
Reagan in an incredibly close nailbiter that'll have me looking for some cherry pepto.
AFBroGermany
12-03-2008, 10:16 AM
Who cares about those litte things called - 'facts'!
Here's my opinion of the game thus far. And, as much as I hate it when people do it. I'm gonna base it off of history.
IF the game is close - Reagan wins. Reagan just finds ways to come back and win or to just seal the deal in the 4th quarter.
The only way SV wins, imo, is they just blow us out. And they're capable of doing that. A few bad things don't go our way in a big game and one mistake can result in 7 points. So mistakes - for either side.
So here's my biases prediction.
Reagan in an incredibly close nailbiter that'll have me looking for some cherry pepto.
thats actually very true, every time an SV and reagan game are close, reagan wins. but the rest of the time sv wins by 10+. im not super good with my facts but i bet CKE will correct me where im wrong.
ive got to root for my old school on this one though,
Go SV!
Bottomline
12-03-2008, 10:19 AM
I remember you from SaSports.....do you always choose the people who Reagan plays? Or do I just notice that whenever you offer your two cents its your opinion that Reagan will lose?
Actually I've picked Reagan several times. Came awfully close in my exact score prediction a few years back in one of their state tourney games in basketball. But this is just my opinion and it shouldn't bother you. Will you call out EVERYONE that picks against Reagan ? My reason ... SV is a very discipline team ... They limit their mistakes like that missed tackle with only mins. left on the game clock to seal the victory for the Rattlers. Reagan, while a solid team, had some lucky bounces go their way to seal victories but, they still had to win and they did. In My opinion, SV by ... 5
Who cares about those litte things called - 'facts'!
Here's my opinion of the game thus far. And, as much as I hate it when people do it. I'm gonna base it off of history.
IF the game is close - Reagan wins. Reagan just finds ways to come back and win or to just seal the deal in the 4th quarter.
The only way SV wins, imo, is they just blow us out. And they're capable of doing that. A few bad things don't go our way in a big game and one mistake can result in 7 points. So mistakes - for either side.
So here's my biases prediction.
Reagan in an incredibly close nailbiter that'll have me looking for some cherry pepto.
Coach Hill doesn't go for blow outs-he'll put in the backups in the 4th (if they are up by a few TD's) to get playing time before that would happen.
Ditto on the pepto :eek: it's gonna be a heckuva game!
shooter
12-03-2008, 10:24 AM
Here you go
2000 SV Wins 35-0
2001 SV wins 24-9
2002 SV wins 24-20
2003 SV wins 37-12
2004 SV Wins 34-13 (district game)
2005 SV wins 26-23 (district game)
2006 Reagan wins 14-10 (district game)
2007 SV wins 47-27 (district game)
2008 Reagan wins 10-7 (district game)
Reaganrattler07
12-03-2008, 10:36 AM
thats actually very true, every time an SV and reagan game are close, reagan wins. but the rest of the time sv wins by 10+. im not super good with my facts but i bet CKE will correct me where im wrong.
ive got to root for my old school on this one though,
Go SV!
I've got to refine my history a bit and say 'in the Wetzel era' because I believe the score was once 24-20 SV before Wetzel was there so...yeah.
Actually I've picked Reagan several times. Came awfully close in my exact score prediction a few years back in one of their state tourney games in basketball. But this is just my opinion and it shouldn't bother you. Will you call out EVERYONE that picks against Reagan ? My reason ... SV is a very discipline team ... They limit their mistakes like that missed tackle with only mins. left on the game clock to seal the victory for the Rattlers. Reagan, while a solid team, had some lucky bounces go their way to seal victories but, they still had to win and they did. In My opinion, SV by ... 5
It doesn't bother me it just seems you always give a long answer before picking against Reagan. Just an observation.
Coach Hill doesn't go for blow outs-he'll put in the backups in the 4th (if they are up by a few TD's) to get playing time before that would happen.
Ditto on the pepto :eek: it's gonna be a heckuva game!
He may not 'go' for blow-outs but that doesn't mean they've never happened.
Reaganrattler07
12-03-2008, 10:39 AM
Here you go
2000 SV Wins 35-0
2001 SV wins 24-9
2002 SV wins 24-20
2003 SV wins 37-12
2004 SV Wins 34-13 (district game)
2005 SV wins 26-23 (district game)
2006 Reagan wins 14-10 (district game)
2007 SV wins 47-27 (district game)
2008 Reagan wins 10-7 (district game)
I bolded the close games.
I forgot the score from the 05 game. But they were down 8 most of the 4th and couldn't stop SV and Greg got sacked for a safety to push it up to 10. They then tried the double pass and got it to come within 3 so I don't know if I would call it a "close" game or not. Should also be noted Reagan missed a field goal I think in the second qtr :(.
But other than that the close games in the Wetzel era have gone to Reagan. And in each one Reagan was both down. So we'll see what happens.
As I've pointed out on many occassions, with each post you continue to show your ignorance.
"Choking when it counts?" The first 3 games didn't count the last 3 years?
So it's only a "Big Game" in the playoffs if you're playing for the Regional title. I'm guessing SV and P-ville fans would disagree with you - that first round game was a "Big Game". All playoff games are "Big Games" when it's win or go home.
You may want to check your 26-5A facts again. They're wrong. I know at least one other team hasn't won a 5A regional championship and there may be 2 (not sure on NB and 5A).
P.S. - Where has your team been the last 2 years - HOME during the playoffs!
I'm done responding to you - it's worthless to carry on a discussion with ignorant people!
The only ignorant post was you comparing Reagan to Katy:confused: Reagan has to AT LEAST
win a Regional title before you can start comparing your school to Katy.
Los Fresnos has probably more regular season wins than any other team in the state, over the past few seasons. By your logic, maybe they should be compared to SLC:eek:
P.S. - If your refering to MacArthur, they are probaly polishing their UIL Region 4 trophy and STATE medals, along with Madison and Judson (2006-2007). Maybe the Reagan kids can take a field trip over to those schools to see what a UIL football trophy looks like.
The only ignorant post was you comparing Reagan to Katy:confused: Reagan has to AT LEAST
win a Regional title before you can start comparing your school to Katy.
Los Fresnos has probably more regular season wins than any other team in the state, over the past few seasons. By your logic, maybe they should be compared to SLC:eek:
P.S. - If your refering to MacArthur, they are probaly polishing their UIL Region 4 trophy and STATE medals, along with Madison and Judson (2006-2007). Maybe the Reagan kids can take a field trip over to those schools to see what a UIL football trophy looks like.
I lol'd
Reaganrattler07
12-03-2008, 11:38 AM
The only ignorant post was you comparing Reagan to Katy:confused: Reagan has to AT LEAST
win a Regional title before you can start comparing your school to Katy.
Los Fresnos has probably more regular season wins than any other team in the state, over the past few seasons. By your logic, maybe they should be compared to SLC:eek:
P.S. - If your refering to MacArthur, they are probaly polishing their UIL Region 4 trophy and STATE medals, along with Madison and Judson (2006-2007). Maybe the Reagan kids can take a field trip over to those schools to see what a UIL football trophy looks like.
No trophy, eh?
No trophy, eh?
I wish you guys would simmer down a little. Quite the "contest" you guys have goin there.
I'm gettin tired of cleanin all the urine off of my monitor.
Reaganrattler07
12-03-2008, 11:48 AM
I wish you guys would simmer down a little. Quite the "contest" you guys have goin there.
I'm gettin tired of cleanin all the urine off of my monitor.
I'm just sayin'. If the dude wants to get on his high horse and be like that....how about he makes sure he *has* a high horse to begin with.
So far over the 50 years Mac has been in existence it has 0 State titles....0.
Now, he claims they have medals. Well, 2nd place is first to lose.
A FOR EFFORT!!!!:rolleyes:
I'm just sayin'. If the dude wants to get on his high horse and be like that....how about he makes sure he *has* a high horse to begin with.
So far over the 50 years Mac has been in existence it has 0 State titles....0.
Now, he claims they have medals. Well, 2nd place is first to lose.
A FOR EFFORT!!!!:rolleyes:
Kinda like,
What does the "N" on the side of the Nebraska Helmet, stand for??
Nowledge.
:D
KTalum06
12-03-2008, 12:00 PM
Im rooting for reagan in this one.... I think sv will win but i would like my tigers to face a team we don't normally see every time we get to the semi's. Sv is very disciplined and reagan will need to bring their a-game to offset the speed and will of the rangers. I have seen sv play many many times and they are always a quality opponent as are my tigers.. But comeon reagan take this one for me at least...;)
I'm just sayin'. If the dude wants to get on his high horse and be like that....how about he makes sure he *has* a high horse to begin with.
So far over the 50 years Mac has been in existence it has 0 State titles....0.
Now, he claims they have medals. Well, 2nd place is first to lose.
A FOR EFFORT!!!!:rolleyes:
Its a 2 way street you know
zippy
12-03-2008, 12:07 PM
Or like they did playing Westlake a few years back. Same deal
i feel this one wil be like several years back when we played roosevelt for the first time. They beat us during regular season but when playoffs came around SV stomped them like 45-14. I see this going the same way...just my gut feeling
Im rooting for reagan in this one.... I think sv will win but i would like my tigers to face a team we don't normally see every time we get to the semi's. Sv is very disciplined and reagan will need to bring their a-game to offset the speed and will of the rangers. I have seen sv play many many times and they are always a quality opponent as are my tigers.. But comeon reagan take this one for me at least...;)
Said it before, I'll say it again.
Reagan NORMALLY brings lots of the Katy/SV traits to the game. At least since Wentzel has been there. Reagan is a very good TEAM first, with some VERY GOOD athletes second.
The difference is Reagan is green, while SV is Blue, and Katy is Red.
DocHolliday
12-03-2008, 12:16 PM
That is very observant
SaRattlerFan
12-03-2008, 12:23 PM
The only ignorant post was you comparing Reagan to Katy:confused: Reagan has to AT LEAST
win a Regional title before you can start comparing your school to Katy.
Los Fresnos has probably more regular season wins than any other team in the state, over the past few seasons. By your logic, maybe they should be compared to SLC:eek:
P.S. - If your refering to MacArthur, they are probaly polishing their UIL Region 4 trophy and STATE medals, along with Madison and Judson (2006-2007). Maybe the Reagan kids can take a field trip over to those schools to see what a UIL football trophy looks like.
Once again another ignorant post - PLEASE REFRESH MY MEMORY WHERE I COMPARED REAGAN TO KATY? As a matter of "FACT" which you chose to ignore, I don't think I've ever mentioned Katy in a post until this one.
p.s. - Mac has plenty of time to shine medals while they have been sitting home in the last two playoffs.
Reaganrattler07
12-03-2008, 12:28 PM
Its a 2 way street you know
Of course I know. I'll live with the fact that in our 8/9 year existence we've made the regional title game for 3 years. Against some damn good competition I might add. That's all I'm happy for. The trophies will come later. It would be like comparing me, at 20 years old, to some CEO at 67 years old. OBVIOUSLY the CEO will have much more(by leaps and bounds) achievements than I.
Said it before, I'll say it again.
Reagan NORMALLY brings lots of the Katy/SV traits to the game. At least since Wentzel has been there. Reagan is a very good TEAM first, with some VERY GOOD athletes second.
The difference is Reagan is green, while SV is Blue, and Katy is Red.
He's truly changed everything.
gonefishin
12-03-2008, 12:29 PM
I'm just sayin'. If the dude wants to get on his high horse and be like that....how about he makes sure he *has* a high horse to begin with.
So far over the 50 years Mac has been in existence it has 0 State titles....0.
Now, he claims they have medals. Well, 2nd place is first to lose.
A FOR EFFORT!!!!:rolleyes:
Some on here are "HAPPY" Reagan has been to the regional finals the last 3 years.......where they LOST! "big games", "must win", "9 playoff victories in 3 years", etc.......... Then reaganrattler07 puts down Mac for not having any state titles for 50 years, and makes fun of their "MEDALS". Do you understand what that medal means?????? It means Mac WON REGIONALS, WON THE STATE SEMIFINALS, AND LOST THE STATE TITLE GAME!!!!!!!!!!!! All of which REAGAN HAS YET TO DO!!!!!!!!! When Reagan actually does something in the playoffs, then you can "brag" about Reagans accomplishments. Until then, Reagan has had an excellent program that just hasnt quite gotten over the hump yet. And maybe wont for years to come, with the opening of Johnson. We will have to wait and see.
For the record, I dont HATE Reagan, I just LOVE SV! Reagan has come a long way in a short time. Coach Wetzel has done a great job. But you just cant go around bragging all the time about a program that really hasnt been anywhere yet!
So, I guess Reagan gets a "C FOR EFFORT" based on your logic???????:rolleyes:
zippy
12-03-2008, 12:31 PM
Said it before, I'll say it again.
Reagan NORMALLY brings lots of the Katy/SV traits to the game. At least since Wentzel has been there. Reagan is a very good TEAM first, with some VERY GOOD athletes second.
The difference is Reagan is green, while SV is Blue, and Katy is Red.
Should have read: Reagan is green, while SV is Blue, and Katy is Red and the last two have a little more class on the field of play.
BleedinBloksDaily
12-03-2008, 12:31 PM
i will be in the thick of blue pride cheerin for the SV RANGERS!!!
Reaganrattler07
12-03-2008, 12:34 PM
Some on here are "HAPPY" Reagan has been to the regional finals the last 3 years.......where they LOST! "big games", "must win", "9 playoff victories in 3 years", etc.......... Then reaganrattler07 puts down Mac for not having any state titles for 50 years, and makes fun of their "MEDALS". Do you understand what that medal means?????? It means Mac WON REGIONALS, WON THE STATE SEMIFINALS, AND LOST THE STATE TITLE GAME!!!!!!!!!!!! All of which REAGAN HAS YET TO DO!!!!!!!!! When Reagan actually does something in the playoffs, then you can "brag" about Reagans accomplishments. Until then, Reagan has had an excellent program that just hasnt quite gotten over the hump yet. And maybe wont for years to come, with the opening of Johnson. We will have to wait and see.
For the record, I dont HATE Reagan, I just LOVE SV! Reagan has come a long way in a short time. Coach Wetzel has done a great job. But you just cant go around bragging all the time about a program that really hasnt been anywhere yet!
So, I guess Reagan gets a "C FOR EFFORT" based on your logic???????:rolleyes:
What bragging? I'm happy we've made regional the last few years. Not sure I'm "bragging" about it. But to reference my earlier post. In 50 years Mac hasn't done a whole hell of a lot more than Reagan has in 9. They have, to m knowledge been to the State Finals twice. Losing each time. I'm more than willing to wait for those trophies to come. And I'd be willing to bet they will. I don't, however, think it'll take 50+ that it's taken for Mac.
Only a few NEISD schools have won State in football. Churchill and Roosy. Both did it in relatively 20-30 years after being made. (And maybe Lee back in the day, someone with that knowledge can correct me)
SaRattlerFan
12-03-2008, 12:36 PM
Some on here are "HAPPY" Reagan has been to the regional finals the last 3 years.......where they LOST! "big games", "must win", "9 playoff victories in 3 years", etc.......... Then reaganrattler07 puts down Mac for not having any state titles for 50 years, and makes fun of their "MEDALS". Do you understand what that medal means?????? It means Mac WON REGIONALS, WON THE STATE SEMIFINALS, AND LOST THE STATE TITLE GAME!!!!!!!!!!!! All of which REAGAN HAS YET TO DO!!!!!!!!! When Reagan actually does something in the playoffs, then you can "brag" about Reagans accomplishments. Until then, Reagan has had an excellent program that just hasnt quite gotten over the hump yet. And maybe wont for years to come, with the opening of Johnson. We will have to wait and see.
For the record, I dont HATE Reagan, I just LOVE SV! Reagan has come a long way in a short time. Coach Wetzel has done a great job. But you just cant go around bragging all the time about a program that really hasnt been anywhere yet!
So, I guess Reagan gets a "C FOR EFFORT" based on your logic???????:rolleyes:
Nothing in the playoffs?:confused:
Here is the logic of some on this board - "Johnson sucks because they haven't won a region championship". Let's forget the FACT they have been open 4 months.
I hope Mac has more region championships than Reagan - they've only been open 40 YEARS longer than Reagan.
Reaganrattler07
12-03-2008, 12:36 PM
I don't know about anyone else but I can't wait till Friday night so most of this bickering will stop.
zippy
12-03-2008, 12:37 PM
Nothing in the playoffs?:confused:
Here is the logic of some on this board - "Johnson sucks because they haven't won a region championship". Let's forget the FACT they have been open 4 months.
I hope Mac has more region championships than Reagan - they've only been open 40 YEARS longer than Reagan.
Mistake, sorry
Reaganrattler07
12-03-2008, 12:37 PM
Nothing in the playoffs?:confused:
Here is the logic of some on this board - "Johnson sucks because they haven't won a region championship". Let's forget the FACT they have been open 4 months.
I hope Mac has more region championships than Reagan - they've only been open 40 YEARS longer than Reagan.
You didn't know?
We're supposed to have 6 State titles by now.
:rolleyes:
SaRattlerFan
12-03-2008, 12:39 PM
um.. Judson does kind of suck now..
Trouble reading? That would be JOHNSON
zippy
12-03-2008, 12:40 PM
Trouble reading? That would be JOHNSON
Yea, I read it wrong, but did not get it edited in time. Mistake, but they do suck
No trophy, eh?
Since ReaganRattler07 has never played past flag football, I would not expect him to know that all the players who win their Region get UIL State Medals. Even the State Champions get medals, not trophies.
The respective schools get the UIL trophies. Again, being from Reagan, I would not expect you to know this because no player or team has earned these UIL awards:)
Reaganrattler07
12-03-2008, 12:43 PM
Since ReaganRattler07 has never played past flag football, I would not expect him to know that all the players who win their Region get UIL State Medals. Even the State Champions get medals, not trophies.
The respective schools get the UIL trophies. Again, being from Reagan, I would not expect you to know this because no player or team has earned these UIL awards:)
Do the Champions not get rings?
There is a difference between a 1st place and a 2nd place medal. Even someone as thick as you must know that.
And it's good that the school gets the Championship trophy...cause neither the Mac players or school have one!:laugh
Should have read: Reagan is green, while SV is Blue, and Katy is Red and the last two have a little more class on the field of play.
Well said, except I would have left out the words "a little more". Reagan lilkes to think they can mirror the great programs at Judson, Madison, & SV, but they have a long way to go in the class department...IMHO and many others.
KTalum06
12-03-2008, 12:52 PM
should have read: Reagan is green, while sv is blue, and katy is red and the last two have a little more class on the field of play.
do the champions not get rings?
There is a difference between a 1st place and a 2nd place medal. Even someone as thick as you must know that.
And it's good that the school gets the championship trophy...cause neither the mac players or school have one!:laugh
zippy that was a hilarious statement and i don't know if it is fact or fiction as i have never seen reagan play...but as for your question reaganrattler07 the champions do not get rings... You earn the right for your school to design and buy rings but you do not get a ring... W/o real diamonds our rings were around three to four hundred dollars... But when you have 15 to 16 diamonds on one ring it gets a little pricy....
bobcat83
12-03-2008, 12:53 PM
Anyone care to talk about football? About this game? It seems it's all about Goatroping and medals.Do you get medals for goatroping? Or is it ribbons?;)
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Do the Champions not get rings?
There is a difference between a 1st place and a 2nd place medal. Even someone as thick as you must know that.
And it's good that the school gets the Championship trophy...cause neither the Mac players or school have one!:laugh
I believe Mac has three UIL football trophies and the players on those teams have UIL medals.
Players and coaches do not receive State Championship rings from the UIL. They must be independently bought.
Once again another ignorant post - PLEASE REFRESH MY MEMORY WHERE I COMPARED REAGAN TO KATY? As a matter of "FACT" which you chose to ignore, I don't think I've ever mentioned Katy in a post until this one.
p.s. - Mac has plenty of time to shine medals while they have been sitting home in the last two playoffs.
At least they have medals and trophies to shine. :rolleyes:
RedRage00
12-03-2008, 01:01 PM
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I've been doing the same thing lol
uhsfilmcrew
12-03-2008, 01:02 PM
Garnarget guys :cool:
bobcat83
12-03-2008, 01:02 PM
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The thread has officially made it now the the popcorn guy is here!
gonefishin
12-03-2008, 01:05 PM
Do the Champions not get rings?
There is a difference between a 1st place and a 2nd place medal. Even someone as thick as you must know that.
And it's good that the school gets the Championship trophy...cause neither the Mac players or school have one!
MAC'S 2ND PLACE MEDALS ARE WAY NICER THAN REAGANS 8TH PLACE ONES! :laugh OH, WAIT, THATS RIGHT....THERE ARE NO 8TH PLACE MEDALS:(
Quit hatin on Mac! At least they have SOMETHING! 8 years or 50....I mean, why has Mac even been brought up?????:confused:
Anyone care to talk about football? About this game? It seems it's all about Goatroping and medals.Do you get medals for goatroping? Or is it ribbons?;)
Hey you forgot liquor store robbers...this thread has all the makings of a great country western song! :Music
MAC'S 2ND PLACE MEDALS ARE WAY NICER THAN REAGANS 8TH PLACE ONES! :laugh OH, WAIT, THATS RIGHT....THERE ARE NO 8TH PLACE MEDALS:(
Quit hatin on Mac! At least they have SOMETHING! 8 years or 50....I mean, why has Mac even been brought up?????:confused:
Great point. Reagan should be focused on SV rather than Mac.:notworthy
Somebody hand me an umbrella.
TEAMFALCON
12-03-2008, 01:30 PM
It's seems as if Reagan has been allowing team to 'hang' around the entire game and relies* on the 'mass' on the OL to wear the other team down.
Add to that a defense that is GREAT, and you have a 4th Q team.
Nothing fancy......at all.
Big OL let's you hang around for 2-3 quarters...then your undersized DL can't take it anymore.
Then, they'll pull out that ONE play that's a momentum shifter....BAM.....
If I had to point out one weakness on the Reagan D, it would have to be corners and only because they allow you to complete those 5 yards pass plays.
Bottomline
12-03-2008, 01:32 PM
Do the Champions not get rings?
And it's good that the school gets the Championship trophy...cause neither the Mac players or school have one!:laugh
Typical Reagan comment. What difference does it make who gets what or if they got a medal or didn't ? No one is getting paid here, they are all amatuer high school athletes. How many athletes from x amount of years ago are sitting at home wishing they had gone to college but hey ! they got a medal from competing in UIL. Get a scholarship and go to college or if you are non-athletic, make something out of yourself and figure out a way to get to college. You sound like that fat kid in elem. school " My dog is better than your dog ! " ...
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