Thought about Michael Irvin @ SLC Game??

[Dragon 97]

I think they need to keep these pro's with "issues" off of the sidelines. Anybody know who invited him???

[drgnbkr]

No..but I wondered what that bulge in his back pocket was.....:eek:

[VB Pack Fan]

Humm this is kind of funny in a way. Was Nate there too since his son plays on the team....:rolleyes:

[dragonsdaddy]

cowboys and ex cowboys can get invitations to any venue in north texas. he was there to see tre newton play. nothing more, nothing less.

[dragons08]

everygame at dragon stadium, there seems to be a cowboy there

[SmilinTiger]

No..but I wondered what that bulge in his back pocket was.....:eek:

Now you know. And, Oh brother, it cost him. Some things never change.

[kttigersrock]

Now you know. And, Oh brother, it cost him. Some things never change.

Great role models to have on the sidelines of a HS game.

[dragons08]

its his friends remember?:rolleyes:

heard an interesting point on espn radio, if it is really his friends why didnt he smash it right way or throw it in the sewer or something, why take it?

[LeanderLions3033]

I love mike, he was my favorite of the triplets but come on. Get your act together, your making it big and you have a dream job. You can't mess that up.


Oh but he was holding it for a friend in rehab.......

[ruffshod]

What about all the beer drinkers in the stands?;)

[Redneckn]

MI is an idiot. He was good on the field.. For a little while.
If he was there to see a friends kid play, he needed to have his arse parked up in the stands with everybody else that is there to see somebody else' kid play.

If this were say 10-15 years ago, ok maybe he can be on the sidelines. But now, he is a nobody. He needs to be in the stands...


Just my opinion. :)

[reed35]

its his friends remember?:rolleyes:

heard an interesting point on espn radio, if it is really his friends why didnt he smash it right way or throw it in the sewer or something, why take it?

Why even let it in his house if he is so worried about his kids.

[drgnbkr]

MI is an idiot. He was good on the field.. For a little while.
If he was there to see a friends kid play, he needed to have his arse parked up in the stands with everybody else that is there to see somebody else' kid play.

If this were say 10-15 years ago, ok maybe he can be on the sidelines. But now, he is a nobody. He needs to be in the stands...


Just my opinion. :)

Love him or hate him..he's a celebrity in the DFW area..we've had Bledsoe and a lot of the Cowboys at the games ..always on the sidelines...Remember Coach Parcells had Clint Renfro talk to the Cowboys after he was so sick for the Denton Ryan game last year..had a huge game while puking...

[dragonsdaddy]

MI is an idiot. He was good on the field.. For a little while.
If he was there to see a friends kid play, he needed to have his arse parked up in the stands with everybody else that is there to see somebody else' kid play.

If this were say 10-15 years ago, ok maybe he can be on the sidelines. But now, he is a nobody. He needs to be in the stands...


Just my opinion. :)
i agree about the seating preferences, but for a "nobody", he sure does show up on my espn a lot. if jimmie "nobody" johnson or some bigger "nobody" pittsburgh qb came and wanted sideline passes, they'd be all of 2 seconds waiting.

[rancher52]

Since the UIL seems to want to control eveything in TX, I am surprised there is not some rule about who is allowed on the sidelines.

[Redneckn]

i agree about the seating preferences, but for a "nobody", he sure does show up on my espn a lot. if jimmie "nobody" johnson or some bigger "nobody" pittsburgh qb came and wanted sideline passes, they'd be all of 2 seconds waiting.


I don't know why he is on ESPN a lot. He's an idiot. And yes, I can honestly say that because I've met him. He was in idiot in 1997 and he's sure to be an idiot now. The other people you mentioned, they aren't really idiots. JJ is somebody. I see him doing something useful every sunday on Fox.

Just because you are known and loved somewhere doesnt mean you are somebody. I can go back to Shreveport today and be on the stupid morning shows at 3 radio stations, but does that really make me somebody? No, it just means that I can. People that are done and still put themselves in front of everyone are in denial about being done. It's proof that he is insecure.
He has arrived at "nobody land" and he cant stand it.

Anyway. I am not going to try to further psycho-analyze MI. It's not really fair to him since he isn't here to say "no I'm not, that's not how it is. Know what I'm say'n". I like to hear people say those things.. Then I can say: "Denial! You're in f-ing denial!".

So, in closing. MI is an idiot. I am an idiot. What seperates up is about 5 bank accounts, 2 cars, and 4 gold rings...

[shooter]

Since the UIL seems to want to control eveything in TX, I am surprised there is not some rule about who is allowed on the sidelines.

there soon will...

[dragons08]

Love him or hate him..he's a celebrity in the DFW area..we've had Bledsoe and a lot of the Cowboys at the games ..always on the sidelines...Remember Coach Parcells had Clint Renfro talk to the Cowboys after he was so sick for the Denton Ryan game last year..had a huge game while puking...
last year the dallas cowboy cheerleaders came as well

[yankee]

last year the dallas cowboy cheerleaders came as well
we wanted her to come and hug the saxes too. boy was that nice.

[dragons08]

we wanted her to come and hug the saxes too. boy was that nice.
too bad we were all afraid to ask

[Redneckn]

last year the dallas cowboy cheerleaders came as well


The cheerleaders are different. They should be used properly though. Send them to the other side. Get those players minds elsewhere..hahaha

[dragons08]

The cheerleaders are different. They should be used properly though. Send them to the other side. Get those players minds elsewhere..hahaha
it was pregame

[Red Raiders]

;) Maybe Micheal Irvin will bring the pipe again on the sideline with his friend who bought that? lol

[Red Raiders]

The cheerleaders are different. They should be used properly though. Send them to the other side. Get those players minds elsewhere..hahaha

If Dallas Cowboys cheerleader came, I would have been so distracted by them.

[reed35]

i honestly would not want my school associated with a multiple time caught drug user. There is already to much going on with drugs in high school.

[CCBoy]

People are so funny to me. So many are quick to say who we don't want or we want on the sideline. Whether guilty or not, let him and his family deal with that. Michael Irvin didn't hurt me when he was convicted or accused of something. Obviously someone, whether it was a coach or school official, allowed him access. That is okay. I hope everyone who is making a big deal about him being on the sideline has a flawless nature, because we can look too much at what someone else is doing instead of ourselves and our family. Coaches, players, and referees would be few if you have to have a clean slate with everyone in order to be on the sidelines. It's not a big deal about being at a football game on the sideline.

[ACM Dad]

I really like Irvin, being a huge Cowboys fan. Even with his pimp get-up as he was walking into court all those years ago. He managed to apologize for his humanity and all was well, got back on TV, properous 2nd career, all is good.

The crack pipe incident excuse reeks of something a 12 year old says when Mom finds the pack of cigarettes in his dresser drawer. If I take a crack pipe away from a friend going through rehab, I'm taking a hammer to it and shattering it to small pieces. I can guarantee you I don't shove it under the seat of my car. Hell, I might even toss it out my car window on a freeway if no one is behind me.

I'd tell Michael to immediately step up and take a drug test. If I was his employer, I'd make him take one.

Of course, meth and coke and the derivatives only stay in your body for a very short period of time (2-3 days) whereas the THC in marijauna and hash and the benzodiazapines (Valium,Xanax) stay in your body for several weeks.

Now he has a lawyer involved when asked about a drug test. Not good. I predict they'll let his body potentially cleanse itself, then he'll pony up for a belated urinalysis. Just my thoughts.

If you're innocent, take the pee test yesterday. Case closed. At the end of the day, I still like Irvin and the insight he brings to pro football (even if it's a bit goofy at times.)

[Redneckn]

People are so funny to me. So many are quick to say who we don't want or we want on the sideline. Whether guilty or not, let him and his family deal with that. Michael Irvin didn't hurt me when he was convicted or accused of something. Obviously someone, whether it was a coach or school official, allowed him access. That is okay. I hope everyone who is making a big deal about him being on the sideline has a flawless nature, because we can look too much at what someone else is doing instead of ourselves and our family. Coaches, players, and referees would be few if you have to have a clean slate with everyone in order to be on the sidelines. It's not a big deal about being at a football game on the sideline.


Would you let OJ come to the sidelines if you were a coach?
We're not talking about DanMarino or JohnElway. We're talking about a fella with a past that includes drug use while he was s'posed to be a rolemodel. What is one of the largest problems youths today face? That would be drugs.

[AHS Mustangs]

I personally don't think that anyone besides coaches and players, and I guess cheerleaders, should be allowed on the sidelines during games. It is a liability for the school district if something happens to that person. Not to mention the fact that it can be a distraction to either team depending on who that person is.

[Jeff-n-Katy]

I think they need to keep these pro's with "issues" off of the sidelines. Anybody know who invited him???

I agree completely, that's a real good role model for a bunch of kids wanting to be the "superstar" as most of them do. In no way shape or form should you let your kids get advice or even talk to a person that took a carrier that every kid dreams of, and turns it into what he did. He was one of the best in his field, but ask anyone what he's known ,mostly, for and it will all be the same answer... Drugs.

Oh by the way, he was just arrested again for having the stuff (paraphernalia) on him again. Oh but of coarse it wasn't his. yea!

Remember who kids at this age are influenced by the most and see if you should have someone like that down on the sidelines.

[Jeff-n-Katy]

People are so funny to me. So many are quick to say who we don't want or we want on the sideline. Whether guilty or not, let him and his family deal with that. Michael Irvin didn't hurt me when he was convicted or accused of something. Obviously someone, whether it was a coach or school official, allowed him access. That is okay. I hope everyone who is making a big deal about him being on the sideline has a flawless nature, because we can look too much at what someone else is doing instead of ourselves and our family. Coaches, players, and referees would be few if you have to have a clean slate with everyone in order to be on the sidelines. It's not a big deal about being at a football game on the sideline.

This is just sad !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[southlake thug]

Would you let OJ come to the sidelines if you were a coach?
We're not talking about DanMarino or JohnElway. We're talking about a fella with a past that includes drug use while he was s'posed to be a rolemodel. What is one of the largest problems youths today face? That would be drugs.


Seeing Michael Irvin on the sidelines does not encourage kids to do drugs.The issue is much deeper then that. What's the difference if they see him on TV everyday, or on the sidelines of a game. Is this honestly even a topic? Why worry about something so unimportant and irrelevant anyway.

[Big Daddy Cool]

I personally don't think that anyone besides coaches and players, and I guess cheerleaders, should be allowed on the sidelines during games. It is a liability for the school district if something happens to that person. Not to mention the fact that it can be a distraction to either team depending on who that person is.


My thoughts exactly. If your not a coach,player,trainer,cheerleader, or camera man you really don't belong nor have any reason to be on the sidelines during the game.

[Redneckn]

Seeing Michael Irvin on the sidelines does not encourage kids to do drugs.The issue is much deeper then that. What's the difference if they see him on TV everyday, or on the sidelines of a game. Is this honestly even a topic? Why worry about something so unimportant and irrelevant anyway.


I don't think he should be on TV either. I think it is a very valid topic. When you have kids, you'll understand. Seeing him at the game, with the kids or on tv says that if you do stupid stuff, it's ok. Well, it's not ok.

You said the issue is much deeper than that, then you turn and say it is of no importance. Which is it? It can't be both...

[BigFoot]

last year the dallas cowboy cheerleaders came as well
Not so hard to accomplish since so many of the ex boys live in your neighborhood. Truth is some of those ex boys should never be around high school kids....wouldn't be around mine.

[YouKnowTha3T]

This is ridiculous...reguardless if he has a past and reguardless if he got caught again he came to support his friends son playing as a sophmore at the highest level of HS football in texas..it is a pretty big deal and to be honest with you he said it was a friends and i dunno if any of yall saw that tall skinny guy that was with him...he looked a little shaddy..i talked to him at the game even took a picture with him the guy is nice..everyone has problems his just get blown up because of his celeb status

yes nate was there and he was there at every practice during the playoffs last year..did anyone say anything no...leave these people alone no wonder they have to resort to drugs to get away from crap like this

[LoneRocket]

Why is this thread even an ISSUE, it play-off time NOT who is at a GAME.

[AHS Mustangs]

This is ridiculous...reguardless if he has a past and reguardless if he got caught again he came to support his friends son playing as a sophmore at the highest level of HS football in texas..


So if I wanted to go and sit on the field to watch my friend's son play would that be ok. What if we all wanted to be on the field to give out "expertise" to the coach and team. True he was a football player, but so were alot of people, maybe at different levels, but alot of guys played football in high school, college or the pros. So do we all get to go down on the field? The sidelines are for people that have an active role in the school, not has beens or wanna bes.

[Butch Fifield]

My thoughts exactly. If your not a coach,player,trainer,cheerleader, or camera man you really don't belong nor have any reason to be on the sidelines during the game.

I have been to dozens of playoff games at Texas Stadium on the sideline. It is no big deal. I have never seen anybody cause any problems down there. There are areas that you are not supposed to go.

[Redneckn]

If you have kids, you don't want known drug users around them. If you have kids and see nothing wrong with this, you should have your children removed from your home and a more responsible person raise them.

[CCBoy]

Would you let OJ come to the sidelines if you were a coach?
We're not talking about DanMarino or JohnElway. We're talking about a fella with a past that includes drug use while he was s'posed to be a rolemodel. What is one of the largest problems youths today face? That would be drugs.
Michael Irvin wasn't accused and aquitted of murder either. The only thing he has ever been harrassed about is marijuana use in which I'm sure that you or somebody in your family has done or is still doing it. It is a terrible thing to do I admit, but to act like he is a murderer is rediculous. You might not know, but Michael Irvin is a nice, giving, christian man who had a lot of flaws in his past and he might have some now. One of the largest problems youths face today is being taught to be too judgemental about good folks who may have a few faults. He can stand on my sideline anytime, because I'm sure we all have some things we do that are not correct.

[Miss Kitty]

I personally don't think that anyone besides coaches and players, and I guess cheerleaders, should be allowed on the sidelines during games. It is a liability for the school district if something happens to that person. Not to mention the fact that it can be a distraction to either team depending on who that person is.


I totally agree. The games are about the students and coaches who work hard to get there. It is not about any celeb who would only be a distraction. It does not matter if he/she is a stellar citizen, that is not their stage. They should be in the stands with everyone else and let the coaches and players do their job on the field.

I find it ironic that those on these boards who don't think topics are relivant always take the time to post. If I am not interested in a thread, I just don't read it. But that seems a bit logical. :D

[Redneckn]

Michael Irvin wasn't accused and aquitted of murder either. The only thing he has ever been harrassed about is marijuana use in which I'm sure that you or somebody in your family has done or is still doing it. It is a terrible thing to do I admit, but to act like he is a murderer is rediculous. You might not know, but Michael Irvin is a nice, giving, christian man who had a lot of flaws in his past and he might have some now. One of the largest problems youths face today is being taught to be too judgemental about good folks who may have a few faults. He can stand on my sideline anytime, because I'm sure we all have some things we do that are not correct.


You are correct. My brother is a junkie. And he not allowed to around my children. Ever. I can't trust him to not be on the crap.
Harrassed about pot. Harrassed? WTF? He was fooling with the stuff. That's not being harrassed. That's being guilty of doing illegal drugs. Just because everybody seems to smoke it does not make it right. As far as I'm concerned, it is illegal to have, use, grow, ect... pot. It's not a matter of being harrassed. He broke the f-ing law. PERIOD.

So we are all clear. If it were up to me, there would no "illegal" drugs. I say legalize them all. That way the losers who are going to do them will have easy access to them and destroy their own minds and bodies and will gone from society sooner than they are now.

Having a few faults is: I got in some trouble when I was 17. I haven't done anything since then. I learned my lesson. I am currently 32. I shouldnt be judged on a stupid mistake I made at 17. My brother is currently 34 and has spend more time IN jail than out since he was about 14. He has had his chance. His chances have all come and gone. He is done.
Repeat offenders blew second and third and forth chances. That is why I am such a huge fan of 3 strikes you're out. All I am waiting for is 1 more felony for my brother and I don't have to worry about him anymore. He'll get 40yrs automatically. He can be sorry while he sits in jail.

[CCBoy]

If you have kids, you don't want known drug users around them. If you have kids and see nothing wrong with this, you should have your children removed from your home and a more responsible person raise them.
First off, I'm confident with the raising of my kids. If you're scared to have your son or daughter around someone on the field then it seems that you have failed somewhere. This man's presence on the field for about 2 hours should not sway your child's beliefs from what you have taught for an entire lifetime. If you have ever smoked anything whether, cigarettes, weed, or even alcohol consumption then you shouldn't be around your own kids.....Is that fair? Why? Because you should be your kids biggest role model and you should teach them what they should or shouldn't do. It's not fun when the tables are turned. Is pain killers an addition the same as a marijuana addition? I think one of the nicest guys in the NFL is Brett Farve and just as I can trust him on my sideline...I can trust Mr Irvin.

[lonny23]

I think they need to keep these pro's with "issues" off of the sidelines. Anybody know who invited him???
I think he was giving them, you know "tips.":p

Don't shoot me, guys. It was too easy of a joke!:D

[lonny23]

I don't know why he is on ESPN a lot. He's an idiot. And yes, I can honestly say that because I've met him. He was in idiot in 1997 and he's sure to be an idiot now. The other people you mentioned, they aren't really idiots. JJ is somebody. I see him doing something useful every sunday on Fox.

Just because you are known and loved somewhere doesnt mean you are somebody. I can go back to Shreveport today and be on the stupid morning shows at 3 radio stations, but does that really make me somebody? No, it just means that I can. People that are done and still put themselves in front of everyone are in denial about being done. It's proof that he is insecure.
He has arrived at "nobody land" and he cant stand it.

Anyway. I am not going to try to further psycho-analyze MI. It's not really fair to him since he isn't here to say "no I'm not, that's not how it is. Know what I'm say'n". I like to hear people say those things.. Then I can say: "Denial! You're in f-ing denial!".

So, in closing. MI is an idiot. I am an idiot. What seperates up is about 5 bank accounts, 2 cars, and 4 gold rings...
At least you got part of it right!:p

[lonny23]

we wanted her to come and hug the saxes too. boy was that nice.
You know, there's a great punchline to your quote. I'll leave it alone!:D

[lonny23]

People are so funny to me. So many are quick to say who we don't want or we want on the sideline. Whether guilty or not, let him and his family deal with that. Michael Irvin didn't hurt me when he was convicted or accused of something. Obviously someone, whether it was a coach or school official, allowed him access. That is okay. I hope everyone who is making a big deal about him being on the sideline has a flawless nature, because we can look too much at what someone else is doing instead of ourselves and our family. Coaches, players, and referees would be few if you have to have a clean slate with everyone in order to be on the sidelines. It's not a big deal about being at a football game on the sideline.
I like Irvin and I still say he's innocent. For the record, he got in trouble once. He pleaded no contest to cocaine in exchange for dropping marijuana charges. They tried to frame him a couple times before. There's no doubt he's done some things, but he's been falsely accused in the court of law more than he's been proven guilty of.

[Redneckn]

First off, I'm confident with the raising of my kids. If you're scared to have your son or daughter around someone on the field then it seems that you have failed somewhere. This man's presence on the field for about 2 hours should not sway your child's beliefs from what you have taught for an entire lifetime. If you have ever smoked anything whether, cigarettes, weed, or even alcohol consumption then you shouldn't be around your own kids.....Is that fair? Why? Because you should be your kids biggest role model and you should teach them what they should or shouldn't do. It's not fun when the tables are turned. Is pain killers an addition the same as a marijuana addition? I think one of the nicest guys in the NFL is Brett Farve and just as I can trust him on my sideline...I can trust Mr Irvin.


Why would you knowingly put your kids in harms way? I wouldn't. People that are drugs are not safe. You never know what they are on and when. It is just better to keep them away from kids.

What I have done at some point in my past has little to nothing to do with me now. I quit smoking pot long before I had kids.
The tables haven't been turned at all. Yes, pain killers can be addictive and lots of people are on them, that doesnt make it any better. I see no reason to put addicts around my kids. As for smoking. My smoking a camel is not going to make me go outta my mind and start killing people or something like drugs can do. So the smoking thing doesnt hold water.

[wide-e-wide]

Let me first say that I really like Michael Irvin. As far as the Cowboys go...he is on my top 5 of all-time list. You want guys like that on your squad...he absolutely hated to lose and gave 100% every play.

Now....as a person...He is about the dumbest sum***** you are ever gonna meet.

I watched NFL Countdown yesterday...and he was high as a damn kite.
I was a substance abuse counselor for years...I know a high person when I see one...and homeboy was high. He could hardly keep his eyes open.

C'mon Mike....you are doing it again dawg....

[Favpack]

Let me first say that I really like Michael Irvin. As far as the Cowboys go...he is on my top 5 of all-time list. You want guys like that on your squad...he absolutely hated to lose and gave 100% every play.

Now....as a person...He is about the dumbest sum***** you are ever gonna meet.

I watched NFL Countdown yesterday...and he was high as a damn kite.
I was a substance abuse counselor for years...I know a high person when I see one...and homeboy was high. He could hardly keep his eyes open.

C'mon Mike....you are doing it again dawg....

I've listed to Mike alot with Dan Patrick on the radio - I concur - the guy just sounds trippy. Maybe you and Troy can intervene Wide.

[Roughrider]

Not a big Cowboy's fan but if LT sits in the HOF there should be NO objection to MI getting in... I am a LT fan but facts are facts... The man may have played loaded but boy did he play!!!

[lonny23]

Let me first say that I really like Michael Irvin. As far as the Cowboys go...he is on my top 5 of all-time list. You want guys like that on your squad...he absolutely hated to lose and gave 100% every play.

Now....as a person...He is about the dumbest sum***** you are ever gonna meet.

I watched NFL Countdown yesterday...and he was high as a damn kite.
I was a substance abuse counselor for years...I know a high person when I see one...and homeboy was high. He could hardly keep his eyes open.

C'mon Mike....you are doing it again dawg....
I'm going to have to watch him. I can usually pick up on stuff and know if somebody is lying if I can see them. I haven't seen him talking yet to form my own opinion. I'll get back with you on that.

[wide-e-wide]

I've listed to Mike alot with Dan Patrick on the radio - I concur - the guy just sounds trippy. Maybe you and Troy can intervene Wide.

He contradicted himself a couple of times on the Dan Patrick show...it just sounds like he is searching for the truth a little too much.

And Lonny...

It won't be hard to tell...I am a master at the skill of picking up on BS as well...and the "Playmaker" is full of it. I wish nothing but the best for him...but don't pee in my shoe and try and tell me it's raining 'ya know?

[Butch Fifield]

what would be cool is if Michael was down there on the sideline in his fur coat with one of his strippers on each arm.

[BigDaddy]

Man, I grew up in the 70's, that was a classy team. I am ashamed of these clowns now. Jerry Jones is the ringmaster, I put alot of blame on him. I am a cowboy fan transplanted in Washington state now. This kind of crap keeps goin I am gonna be forced to root for the Seahawks. By the way how is the reverend Nate Newton?

[SLC54]

I just think the boys (on the field) don't need anyone (except parents setting up the tunnel) on the sidelines who are not participating. I think Dodge should get control of this

[Butch Fifield]

I think Dodge should get control of this

I am not sure if Dodge has any control over it. At least in the case of Texas Stadium, Texas Stadium gives out sideline passes to anyone they want to. Not sure how it works for places like Baylor.

[SLC54]

Your probably right. I just hate anything that takes away from (or tarnishes) the boys day in the sun:mad:

[Miss Kitty]

I agree with you SLC54. Nothing against MI but I think it would be bad for any celeb to steal the thunder of the boys on the field. Like I said before, it is about the students and coaches and the work they have done.

[lonny23]

Man, I grew up in the 70's, that was a classy team. I am ashamed of these clowns now. Jerry Jones is the ringmaster, I put alot of blame on him. I am a cowboy fan transplanted in Washington state now. This kind of crap keeps goin I am gonna be forced to root for the Seahawks. By the way how is the reverend Nate Newton?
That 70's team had a lot of skeletons in the closet. That's why we had North Dallas Forty!:D

[gtowndrumma]

Why would you knowingly put your kids in harms way? I wouldn't. People that are are not safe. You never know what they are on and when. It is just better to keep them away from kids.

What I have done at some point in my past has little to nothing to do with me now. I quit pot long before I had kids.
The tables haven't been turned at all. Yes, pain killers can be addictive and lots of people are on them, that doesnt make it any better. I see no reason to put addicts around my kids. As for . My a camel is not going to make me go outta my mind and start people or something like can do. So the thing doesnt hold water.



i agree with everything you said except for the part. I know from personal experience that having a parent on any kind of tobacco product makes it seem ok to the kid to do it when they get of age. My dad has been dipping around me since long before i can remember and im barely 18 and am addicted to it myself and i would love to quit. Same thing goes with smokers. the only difference with people that smoke around their children is that it kills them.... second hand smoke. so i say if your gonna do it, at least do it away from your children.

[rancher52]

That 70's team had a lot of skeletons in the closet. That's why we had North Dallas Forty!:D
They had a few skeletons out of the closet too. How about Duane Thomas and Hollywood Henderson? If there had been the media then as there is today, you might find there wasn't that much difference when it came to drugs and illicit behavior.

[Butch Fifield]

They had a few skeletons out of the closet too. How about Duane Thomas and Hollywood Henderson? If there had been the media then as there is today, you might find there wasn't that much difference when it came to drugs and illicit behavior.

exactly. not to mention Roger Staubach.

[rancher52]

exactly. not to mention Roger Staubach.
?? ugh??

[lonny23]

exactly. not to mention Roger Staubach.
I remember the Phyllis George interview when she asked him about Broadway Joe and how Roger acted. He said he liked sex as much as the next guy, but did it with just one girl.:D

[graveyardpoet]

Would you let OJ come to the sidelines if you were a coach?
We're not talking about DanMarino or JohnElway. We're talking about a fella with a past that includes drug use while he was s'posed to be a rolemodel. What is one of the largest problems youths today face? That would be drugs.

With all the issues regarding drugs in sports in the last 2 years between the Colleyville situation last year (just down the road) and the congressional hearings in regards to professional baseball, the last thing any parent wants is a known drug user on the sidelines. Where did his drug use stop?

[Redneckn]

i agree with everything you said except for the part. I know from personal experience that having a parent on any kind of tobacco product makes it seem ok to the kid to do it when they get of age. My dad has been dipping around me since long before i can remember and im barely 18 and am addicted to it myself and i would love to quit. Same thing goes with smokers. the only difference with people that smoke around their children is that it kills them.... second hand smoke. so i say if your gonna do it, at least do it away from your children.

I can agree with that.. mostly...My kids know I smoke, but I don't do it if they are going to have to breathe it. My daughter is allergic to smoke anyway.
But my point is that my smoking isn't going to make me skitz out and because I'm seeing things. Drugs can make that kind of thing happen.

When my brother and family were living with me at the farm, my nieces were telling me that one nite around 1am he came in and woke them up and told them to get dressed so they could go. They were like "where are we going?" Brother is like "don't ask me questions, just get ready to go." He walks outside for about 10 mins. Comes back in, all 3 girls are sitting there fully clothed and ready to go. Brother says " what are y'all doing out of bed?" Oldest niece: "you told us to get up and get ready." Brother: "What the hell are you talking about? Get back in bed."
That kind of thing went on pretty often. He came up to my room one nite saying there were people surrounding the house. He was just in a panic. My thought is that he has done pissed off some dealer or the cops have finally come to haul his sorry butt off. I get the Q-beam out and start looking. There were no people. Our bull had decided he wanted to eat the grass in the yard so he came thru the fence and brought about 20 cows with him.

In closing. Do you really want you kids around people that do drugs? How safe can it really be? And while the antics of my crackhead brother seem harmless, he also wondered one nite while coming up the driveway of a car would really float for a few mins. He tried to drive a Chevy Cavalier off into the pond to see @ 50mph. The pine tree stopped him.
So no. It is just not safe for anyone. Let alone kids.

[dragons08]

I personally don't think that anyone besides coaches and players, and I guess cheerleaders, should be allowed on the sidelines during games. It is a liability for the school district if something happens to that person. Not to mention the fact that it can be a distraction to either team depending on who that person is.
dont forget the crew!

[lonny23]

Check out all the articles. They even scanned the citations!:D

Boy, he has a past, but there's some chance he was telling the truth. Not consenting to the search if true is a tough one. It's their word against his and that's never a good thing.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/columnists/kblackistone/stories/112905dnspoblackistonecol.81b114b.html

[Red Raiders]

Why is this thread even an ISSUE, it play-off time NOT who is at a GAME.

lol, I agree but I still like to read what people react to this.

[yankee]

too bad we were all afraid to ask
of course i wouldve asked her had i the oppurtunity!

[dragons08]

of course i wouldve asked her had i the oppurtunity!
of course :rolleyes:

[WildcatFan]

The reason he got busted was he that he got caught in Plano with a crack pipe! That's a big NO NO!

He should have had a heroine needle they would have let him go!!!

Sorry I couldn't resist~:p

[zippy]

I heard he was talking with the WR's during the game, is this correct or rumor?

[dragonfootballfan]

I heard he was talking with the WR's during the game, is this correct or rumor?
I did not see that at all, but I did notice him getting excited about renfro a few times

[Redneckn]

The reason he got busted was he that he got caught in Plano with a crack pipe! That's a big NO NO!

He should have had a heroine needle they would have let him go!!!

Sorry I couldn't resist~:p


Is that a pretty big problem up that way?
I know back in EastTex and NW La, meth is pretty substantial nowadays.
Ask my brother...

[WildcatFan]

Is that a pretty big problem up that way?
I know back in EastTex and NW La, meth is pretty substantial nowadays.
Ask my brother...

Yeah for some reason it is I guess money, access whatever the reason its sad.

We had a girl last week die it was a big problem some years back but has resurfaced this year, Coppell also has been having a problem as well.

What happened to the good ol' days where getting wild meant slamming a six pack and maybe taking a toke off a joint.

Heroine, Crack, Ectacy and Meth seem to be the drug of choice these days. Roids/juice are another problem as well, but only at Plano West not Plano our boys are el' natural.

[taco_bockley]

he was probably slinging cocain to the players

[zippy]

I doubt that, but I heard one of the radio guys saying something about it. Just wondering if anyone at the game seen it happen.

he was probably slinging cocain to the players

[Redneckn]

Yeah for some reason it is I guess money, access whatever the reason its sad.

We had a girl last week die it was a big problem some years back but has resurfaced this year, Coppell also has been having a problem as well.

What happened to the good ol' days where getting wild meant slamming a six pack and maybe taking a toke off a joint.

Heroine, Crack, Ectacy and Meth seem to be the drug of choice these days. Roids/juice are another problem as well, but only at Plano West not Plano our boys are el' natural.


That's really sad. I wish people could understand that doing that crap really is not at all the way to go. Where I grew up, most of the area was the 'head' area. I saw a lot of my friends die from various things.. Friends in jail. Friends with nothing. Living in a beat down mobile home and living off minimum wage.. Bunch of losers...
That is 1 way I was lucky where my crakhead brother is concerned. It scared me so much I never really did much of anything...

[pshsfan]

the majority of you are acting like catty housewifes arguing at a PTA meeting.

Micheal Irvin was an amazing football player, I grew up watching and admiring the guy and you don't see me picking up a crack pipe. He was a part of some of the most memorable years of cowboys football that I have. He's been on that sideline more than any of us ever have. So why freak out about a football great who got caught doing something in the 90s. I doubt theyd let him on tv all the time if he was smokin crack.

micheal irvin rules.

[VB Pack Fan]

Man, I grew up in the 70's, that was a classy team. I am ashamed of these clowns now. Jerry Jones is the ringmaster, I put alot of blame on him. I am a cowboy fan transplanted in Washington state now. This kind of crap keeps goin I am gonna be forced to root for the Seahawks. By the way how is the reverend Nate Newton?

Whoa BigDaddy....the Rev. Nate Newton:rolleyes: , now that is hilarious. Man that is the best quote on this thread:D :D

[WildcatFan]

the majority of you are acting like catty housewifes arguing at a PTA meeting.

Micheal Irvin was an amazing football player, I grew up watching and admiring the guy and you don't see me picking up a crack pipe. He was a part of some of the most memorable years of cowboys football that I have. He's been on that sideline more than any of us ever have. So why freak out about a football great who got caught doing something in the 90s. I doubt theyd let him on tv all the time if he was smokin crack.

micheal irvin rules.

Well no disrespect to you my fellow Cat Fan but I think alot of us still respect Mike's ability he was a great ball player. No one here is dipsuting his talent only his character.

I know alot of us were also able to forgive and forget his mistakes of the 90's, which can be a problem when you are in the spotlight at that level.

He's retired now and not in the limelight as much other than TV, but to get caught with a crackpipe under your seat saying it was your friends is kind of lame to me. Also stopping short of saying he will submit to a drug test ASAP tells me he is not innocent.

Let me put it to you this way if I was accused of drugs or killing my wife and I was not guilty I would be the first to submit to a drug or polygrahp test to clear my name and help the investigation.

I don't know about you but if someone tried to even give me a crack pipe I would kick their A$$.

His story does not add up, hopefully he is right and this is a big mistake.

But if it walks like duck and quacks like a duck then chances are!!!!!!!!

[YouKnowTha3T]

"So if I wanted to go and sit on the field to watch my friend's son play would that be ok. What if we all wanted to be on the field to give out "expertise" to the coach and team. True he was a football player, but so were alot of people, maybe at different levels, but alot of guys played football in high school, college or the pros. So do we all get to go down on the field? The sidelines are for people that have an active role in the school, not has beens or wanna bes."


you must be retarted...coach dodge last year always invited professional athletes into our locker room to talk to us..we were blessed to have three players on our team last year that had fathers that played for the cowboys..blessed to have dads that did business with Roger Staubach...i mean cmon you have got to be kidding me we arent talking about has beens and wanna bes we are talking about heisman trophy winners and hall of famers and soon to be hall of famers...i would love to have players from today talk to my son when he is a football player...i mean the memories and storys they can share can really encourage you...us as players didnt look at the fact that he may have been caught with weed so he must not be a good person...thats too judemental and our coach taught us way better then that

[gtowndrumma]

anyone else see the interview w/ the rev. this week? sounds like hes doin much better

[Jeff-n-Katy]

Does anyone on this board believe that if MI wasn't a house hold name, that any of these MI defenders would let thier kids hang around him if he was just another no-name junkie and not a big name junkie.

Would they conveniently just overlook his LONG standing reputation with drugs, and his most recent run in with the wrong end of a pipe, and let him take thier kids out for a coke and pizza?

If MI wasn't MI you would'nt let him within 5 feet of your kids!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A great football player does not automaticly make a great role model.

And he sure as he** does'nt belong on the sideline of a highschool football game just because of his name or what he has done. He should be lead off the field because of who he is... A habitual drug user.

[wide-e-wide]

Also...

Didn't the official police report say that they also found a small bag of marijuana in a sunglasses case?

If so..........the whole "pipe ain't mine" defense doesn't matter.
Michael Irvin has admitted that he is an addict....he has stated numerous times that he has a serious addiction to cocaine.

Well...cocaine addicts don't carry weed in their sunglasses case.
If you are in recovery....and "sober"....you don't do ANY drugs...

Everybody is so caught up in this pipe thing....
Why isn't anyone asking him about the weed in his car?

I was sort of on the fence about all of this...until I heard about the marijuana....

He is lying guys.........I like the guy....but he is an addict and you can trust an addict about as far as you can throw them.

[Redneckn]

Also...
If so..........the whole "pipe ain't mine" defense doesn't matter.
Michael Irvin has admitted that he is an addict....he has stated numerous times that he has a serious addiction to cocaine.

Well...cocaine addicts don't carry weed in their sunglasses case.
If you are in recovery....and "sober"....you don't do ANY drugs...

Everybody is so caught up in this pipe thing....
Why isn't anyone asking him about the weed in his car?

He is lying guys.........I like the guy....but he is an addict and you can trust an addict about as far as you can throw them.


Wise words from the Wide-man...

[dragons08]

Also...

Didn't the official police report say that they also found a small bag of marijuana in a sunglasses case?

If so..........the whole "pipe ain't mine" defense doesn't matter.
Michael Irvin has admitted that he is an addict....he has stated numerous times that he has a serious addiction to cocaine.

Well...cocaine addicts don't carry weed in their sunglasses case.
If you are in recovery....and "sober"....you don't do ANY drugs...

Everybody is so caught up in this pipe thing....
Why isn't anyone asking him about the weed in his car?

I was sort of on the fence about all of this...until I heard about the marijuana....

He is lying guys.........I like the guy....but he is an addict and you can trust an addict about as far as you can throw them.
how far can you throw him? what if hes a weak little guy and the guy throwing him is some worlds strongest man winner, then what?

[reed35]

I can see the headlines now.....SLC must forfeit the game due to testing posotive for drugs!!

During the investigation, it is proved that all ingestion was from second hand smoke from MI pregame speech in the closed locker room.
The ingestion of cocaine was a bigger mystery until it was revealed that MI shook every ones hand and the found cause was absorption through the skin.
TS officials stated the vent systems needs updating.

[pshsfan]

You think a guy like Irvin would waste his time corrupting your kids? no way, he could be corrupting much more important people if he wanted to.

I would have loved to have Irvin on our sidelines. It's somethin you don't see every day.

[WildcatFan]

You think a guy like Irvin would waste his time corrupting your kids? no way, he could be corrupting much more important people if he wanted to.

I would have loved to have Irvin on our sidelines. It's somethin you don't see every day.

Yeah I bet Brence would like that very much...Pookey the crack-head running the chains.

[CCBoy]

Does anyone on this board believe that if MI wasn't a house hold name, that any of these MI defenders would let thier kids hang around him if he was just another no-name junkie and not a big name junkie.

Would they conveniently just overlook his LONG standing reputation with drugs, and his most recent run in with the wrong end of a pipe, and let him take thier kids out for a coke and pizza?

If MI wasn't MI you would'nt let him within 5 feet of your kids!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A great football player does not automaticly make a great role model.

And he sure as he** does'nt belong on the sideline of a highschool football game just because of his name or what he has done. He should be lead off the field because of who he is... A habitual drug user.
First off , I wouldn't let my children go to get soda and pizza with the Pope or any stranger. So that is out of the question. However, if they are on the sideline playing a sport, I can feel pretty safe that Michael Irvin would not convince them to doing crack. Like I said before, Michael Irvin is a Christian man and that is something that you can't fake for years. He isn't a perfect man, but who is? He wouldn't put kids at risk on the sidelines at a football game. He is a very animated, but decent guy no matter what he has done in the past. The biggest hypocrites are the one's that cast judgement on another HUMAN BEING!!

[lonny23]

Also...

Didn't the official police report say that they also found a small bag of marijuana in a sunglasses case?

If so..........the whole "pipe ain't mine" defense doesn't matter.
Michael Irvin has admitted that he is an addict....he has stated numerous times that he has a serious addiction to cocaine.

Well...cocaine addicts don't carry weed in their sunglasses case.
If you are in recovery....and "sober"....you don't do ANY drugs...

Everybody is so caught up in this pipe thing....
Why isn't anyone asking him about the weed in his car?

I was sort of on the fence about all of this...until I heard about the marijuana....

He is lying guys.........I like the guy....but he is an addict and you can trust an addict about as far as you can throw them.
The article I posted said it was an empty bag, but that hand-scribbled police report looked like it might've said he was emptying a bag.

[lonny23]

how far can you throw him? what if hes a weak little guy and the guy throwing him is some worlds strongest man winner, then what?
You've learned well, young man!;)

[Redneckn]

MI is a Christian? I sure can't tell. He sure doesn't act like one. Constantly off and on drugs and being on the wrong side of the law is not what I would consider being a Christian.

Lots of people lay claim to being a christian. People like MI like to give themselves titles. Usually they hold NO water though. Back home, we have the "Bishop Dr. Fred". He has 2 churches in Shreveport. Turns out, Fred decided one day he wanted to be a "bishop" so he gave himself the title. He also thought people would take him more seriously if he were a "Dr.", so he got on the board of directors for a mail order degree company and got an "honorary doctorate". So, he is not a Dr. or a bishop. All he does is take peoples money and stir up problems in Shreveport.

MI being a christian reminds me of all the "christians" at the little church in Shreveport a while back. They all come out of church, where they go every week, to have a gun fight in the street.
Telling people you are a christian does not make you a christian.

CCBoy, you seem to be overly worried about folks casting judgement on other folks. That's something we all do, even if we don't like it we still do it. We may not say anything out loud, but we still do it just the same. I'm judging MI on his actions. He WAS a good football player. Now, he is a man struggling with life in oblivion. Perhaps if he'd spend less of his money on drugs then he wouldn't have to still be on my tv trying to earn a paycheck.
If he wants to be charitable by helping with HS teams, he needs to go to a poor schools and help out there. But first, he needs to be able to pass a drug screen.

[Jeff-n-Katy]

First off , I wouldn't let my children go to get soda and pizza with the Pope or any stranger. So that is out of the question. However, if they are on the sideline playing a sport, I can feel pretty safe that Michael Irvin would not convince them to doing crack. Like I said before, Michael Irvin is a Christian man and that is something that you can't fake for years. He isn't a perfect man, but who is? He wouldn't put kids at risk on the sidelines at a football game. He is a very animated, but decent guy no matter what he has done in the past. The biggest hypocrites are the one's that cast judgement on another HUMAN BEING!!

The one thing your forgetting is... were not talking about the past... this is happening right now. He's still on the stuff right now and lying about it.

also, when it comes to my kids, there is nothing I would'nt do to keep my kids away from drugs and the junkies that use them. I know I can't do that all the time but if I know someone like Mike is a user than I don't want him around my kids... and I surely don't want him put on a pedestal and shown around the sidelines of a highschool football game. (It's condoning)

It's sad that these guys can come in and put on a show and make weak minds think that they're just the nicest guys in the world so they will overlook the fact that they are junkies and can not be trusted.

MI is a junkie no matter how nice he is... get him away from our kids... before they think it's ok to "Be like Mike".

[lonny23]

MI is a Christian? I sure can't tell. He sure doesn't act like one. Constantly off and on drugs and being on the wrong side of the law is not what I would consider being a Christian.

Lots of people lay claim to being a christian. People like MI like to give themselves titles. Usually they hold NO water though. Back home, we have the "Bishop Dr. Fred". He has 2 churches in Shreveport. Turns out, Fred decided one day he wanted to be a "bishop" so he gave himself the title. He also thought people would take him more seriously if he were a "Dr.", so he got on the board of directors for a mail order degree company and got an "honorary doctorate". So, he is not a Dr. or a bishop. All he does is take peoples money and stir up problems in Shreveport.

MI being a christian reminds me of all the "christians" at the little church in Shreveport a while back. They all come out of church, where they go every week, to have a gun fight in the street.
Telling people you are a christian does not make you a christian.

CCBoy, you seem to be overly worried about folks casting judgement on other folks. That's something we all do, even if we don't like it we still do it. We may not say anything out loud, but we still do it just the same. I'm judging MI on his actions. He WAS a good football player. Now, he is a man struggling with life in oblivion. Perhaps if he'd spend less of his money on drugs then he wouldn't have to still be on my tv trying to earn a paycheck.
If he wants to be charitable by helping with HS teams, he needs to go to a poor schools and help out there. But first, he needs to be able to pass a drug screen.
I'll be the first to tell you that not all who claim Christianity live up to it. Many times, we see people struggling in their faith, but they want to do right. A certain portion of those in ministry are frauds and want to take your money.

[CCBoy]

MI is a Christian? I sure can't tell. He sure doesn't act like one. Constantly off and on drugs and being on the wrong side of the law is not what I would consider being a Christian.

Lots of people lay claim to being a christian. People like MI like to give themselves titles. Usually they hold NO water though. Back home, we have the "Bishop Dr. Fred". He has 2 churches in Shreveport. Turns out, Fred decided one day he wanted to be a "bishop" so he gave himself the title. He also thought people would take him more seriously if he were a "Dr.", so he got on the board of directors for a mail order degree company and got an "honorary doctorate". So, he is not a Dr. or a bishop. All he does is take peoples money and stir up problems in Shreveport.

MI being a christian reminds me of all the "christians" at the little church in Shreveport a while back. They all come out of church, where they go every week, to have a gun fight in the street.
Telling people you are a christian does not make you a christian.

CCBoy, you seem to be overly worried about folks casting judgement on other folks. That's something we all do, even if we don't like it we still do it. We may not say anything out loud, but we still do it just the same. I'm judging MI on his actions. He WAS a good football player. Now, he is a man struggling with life in oblivion. Perhaps if he'd spend less of his money on drugs then he wouldn't have to still be on my tv trying to earn a paycheck.
If he wants to be charitable by helping with HS teams, he needs to go to a poor schools and help out there. But first, he needs to be able to pass a drug screen.
To be a Christian isn't to be perfect. To be a Christian is to understand when you have sinned and to address & do your best to remove that sin. We don't know if Michael Irvin is a user, but if he is then he can still be a good man but correct his addiction. Michael is in the right place to receive what he need to be a Christian. Some people don't give it a shot at all. I'm not trying to preach because I'm far from perfect, but it is easy to give judgement on someone else and say what they are and what they are not.

[FootballJunkie]

To be a Christian isn't to be perfect. To be a Christian is to understand when you have sinned and to address & do your best to remove that sin. We don't know if Michael Irvin is a user, but if he is then he can still be a good man but correct his addiction. Michael is in the right place to receive what he need to be a Christian. Some people don't give it a shot at all. I'm not trying to preach because I'm far from perfect, but it is easy to give judgement on someone else and say what they are and what they are not.

I'm far from perfect as we all are but...you would think that someone who has had a pretty good life ie, great college career, Hall of Fame NFL career, NFL broadcasting, and second chances after previous drug issues not to mention making millions of dollars, could find something else to do besides smoke crack. Call me crazy but their are plenty of other things in life besides that!!!

[BigDaddy]

lonny if you started your own talk show, I would watch:eek:you are one deep individual...

[southlake thug]

How does he still have his job? This just makes ESPN look worse then it already did.

He will not be on this week, but he will return Dec. 11. Hopefully he can stay clean til then

[FootballJunkie]

How does he still have his job? This just makes ESPN look worse then it already did.

He will not be on this week, but he will return Dec. 11. Hopefully he can stay clean til then

Or at least not get caught is their hope;)