SLC VS Lufkin [Archive] - 5A Texas Football Forum

SLC fan

11-28-2005, 02:24 PM

I don't think it's been determined yet. Baylor's Floyd Casey Stadium was the chosen site last year, but supposedly it will be unavailable that week. Of all the other potential neutral sites, College Station makes the most sense to me. The commute to CS from Southlake and Lufkin is roughly the same, it's in a neutral area (unlike Tyler, for instance, which might favor Lufkin), and Kyle Field is more than large enough to meet the demand for seats. Let's look at the alternatives:

1) Waco ISD -- They played there in the 2002 semis, but the stadium only holds 11,500 people. That's nowhere near large enough to meet demand. Each side could easily bring 14,000 people.

2) Tyler -- Like Waco ISD, Tyler's stadium isn't large enough. Furthermore, Lufkin is familiar with Tyler and it could draw a lot of East Texas fans who will generally favor Lufkin. I imagine that Tyler would be objectionable to SLC.

3) Houston -- Less neutral than CS. Lufkin might prefer it, but not SLC.

4) Austin -- Less neutral than CS. Lufkin wouldn't go for it.

5) Huntsville -- Not nearly large enough.

I think College Station would be perfect, and here's hoping that that's where it's played should this game occur. For that matter, Collge Station would probably make sense for SLC vs. Copperas Cove, Plano vs. Lufkin, or Plano vs. Copperas Cove.

dawgpound98

11-28-2005, 02:28 PM

Guess this weeks games don't matter since yall already have it Lufkin and SLC.

stevefoxsc

11-28-2005, 02:34 PM

they should play in the rose bowl :P

SLC fan

11-28-2005, 02:36 PM

Calm down, dawg. He asked a hypothetical question and I gave him a hypothetical answer (notice that both of us used the word "if"). I'm not assuming anything.

Potential sites are usually decided more than a week in advance anyway, so maybe you should accuse the coaches of looking ahead as well.

Mr. Buddy Garrity

11-28-2005, 02:44 PM

It will probably be in Mesquite, if not Texas Stadium or A&M.

SLC fan

11-28-2005, 02:53 PM

Mesquite isn't much farther away from Southlake than Irving (about 20 minutes more). It wouldn't be very neutral. If Lufkin is going to drive over three hours, they might as well make SLC drive the same distance.

Besides, how many people does Mesquite's stadium hold? If they're going to play in an undersized stadium, it will almost certainly be Waco ISD.

Favpack

11-28-2005, 03:08 PM

LPanther

11-28-2005, 03:11 PM

Floyd Casey and Waco have been kind to SLC.
Frankly, all stadiums are kind to SLC.

SLC fan

11-28-2005, 03:20 PM

Assuming SLC wins (not too much of a stretch at this point) - either way would be interesting. Maybe Lufkin shakes it up and rules out Waco again - but that's doubtful. A&M would then be a good selection - but not so for SLC.

But, if I'm SLC no way do I agree to play CCove at Waco - but, maybe I'm wrong. Floyd Casey and Waco have been kind to SLC.

A&M would be less favorable to SLC than Waco in terms of travel, but if Floyd Casey is unavailable, I'm not sure either coach would want to play at Waco ISD again. It's just wayyyy too small.

To be honest, I'm not quite sure why Lufkin has been so willing to play in Waco in the past. Doesn't it take about 4.5 hours to get there? It's a much easier commute for SLC. A&M would be an equal commute for both teams.

Redneckn

11-28-2005, 03:25 PM

I'd like for the game to be played either in Austin or in the DFW area. If it's in Austin, I can make a way to go. If it's in DFW area, it would be easier for me to "stop by" on my way back to Austin from Shreveport.

I have a feeling if this game does go down, something will happen and I will not be able to attend.

Favpack

11-28-2005, 03:26 PM

A&M would be less favorable to SLC than Waco in terms of travel, but if Floyd Casey is unavailable, I'm not sure either coach would want to play at Waco ISD again. It's just wayyyy too small.

To be honest, I'm not quite sure why Lufkin has been so willing to play in Waco in the past. Doesn't it take about 4.5 hours to get there? It's a much easier commute for SLC. A&M would be an equal commute for both teams.

Waco is just under 3 hours from Lufkin - driving somewhere near the speed limit:). So, yes, geographically A&M would be 45 minutes shorter for Lufkin - and, what, 1.5 - 2 hours longer for SLC? Agree totally on the ISD stadium -that never happens again in a semi-final match. If SLC plays CCove - I would assume that happens at Floyd Casey.

In terms of this year - I think Lufkin has lost two coin flips - played in Waco both times (including this game) and A&M was not available for Hays Consol - so Waco was agreed to as a neutral site.

rancher52

11-28-2005, 04:55 PM

Waco is just under 3 hours from Lufkin - driving somewhere near the speed limit:). So, yes, geographically A&M would be 45 minutes shorter for Lufkin - and, what, 1.5 - 2 hours longer for SLC? Agree totally on the ISD stadium -that never happens again in a semi-final match. If SLC plays CCove - I would assume that happens at Floyd Casey.

In terms of this year - I think Lufkin has lost two coin flips - played in Waco both times (including this game) and A&M was not available for Hays Consol - so Waco was agreed to as a neutral site.
Actually, College Station is only 3 hours for SLC.... maybe 3 1/4 if you drive closer to the limits.

yankee

11-28-2005, 05:03 PM

You know what i say? I say that Lufkin beats whoever they are playing and slc beats plano, and then we can talk about stadiums. lets not get too far ahead of ouselves.

dragons08

11-28-2005, 08:28 PM

dragons08

11-28-2005, 08:29 PM

You know what i say? I say that Lufkin beats whoever they are playing and slc beats plano, and then we can talk about stadiums. lets not get too far ahead of ouselves.
i like your thinking

dragons08

11-28-2005, 08:30 PM

they should play in the rose bowl :P
why not Ford Field, in late january?

yankee

11-28-2005, 08:31 PM

i like your thinking
all these threads are asking the same questions. i think ill just make one.

dragons08

11-28-2005, 08:38 PM

all these threads are asking the same questions. i think ill just make one.
please dont, i dont want to waste time reading the samething over when i could be reading something i havent yet

yankee

11-28-2005, 08:39 PM

please dont, i dont want to waste time reading the samething over when i could be reading something i havent yet
i was being sarcastic. As everyone can tell, there are plenty of them out there.

brad@sunshinepreps

11-28-2005, 10:44 PM

Could 4A La Marque have the best chance of beating SLC.

TrojanHorse03

11-28-2005, 11:04 PM

Could 4A La Marque have the best chance of beating SLC.

No, Brad, No.

PurpleNation

11-29-2005, 12:27 AM

Could 4A La Marque have the best chance of beating SLC.

LOL you cant be seriouse.

PackAttack2005

11-29-2005, 12:33 AM

Lufkin folks need to not talk about this just yet, not that I don't have confidence. It is just not something you talk about when you still need to play a top rated team like Copperas Cove.

Then again some people will talk about what they may do in the playoffs next year. This is a wasted topic until it actually happens.

singularity

11-29-2005, 12:46 AM

If it happens I see a repeat of last year. SLC will most likely come out on top with a last second win, although right now it doesn't look like they will win with a FG.

SLC Dragon Fan

11-30-2005, 12:06 PM

Has anyone heard yet where potential Region 1 - Region 2 semifinal game would be held for each of the potential matchup scenarios?

dragonsdaddy

11-30-2005, 12:09 PM

If it happens I see a repeat of last year. SLC will most likely come out on top with a last second win, although right now it doesn't look like they will win with a FG.
actually, our fg and xp kicker is a pretty fair hs kicker. as a soph he has a ways to go, but how many hs's have a soph kicker who's already made one from 42. we have been so used to drop dead terrific kicking that average doesn't look too appealing.

pack0808

11-30-2005, 04:05 PM

Could 4A La Marque have the best chance of beating SLC.

good lord no!! La Marque played 1 5a team this year and that was Galveston Ball and La Marque only won 20-19. I think Marshall or Highland Park in div1 is the best 4a team's though. I would put La Marque as the 3rd best. I think Marshall will do it this year after losing in the finals by 1 point to Ennis last year. Marshall's only loss was to 5a power Longview by double digits. La Marque should be happy they are in 4a div2 this year.

1Maverick1

11-30-2005, 05:39 PM

SLC vs Lufkin

Pretty bold statement from a one-eyed fat man!!!

(quote from True Grit)

dragons08

11-30-2005, 05:59 PM

actually, our fg and xp kicker is a pretty fair hs kicker. as a soph he has a ways to go, but how many hs's have a soph kicker who's already made one from 42. we have been so used to drop dead terrific kicking that average doesn't look too appealing.
wait i thought Ryan Murry was kicking isnt he a senior?

dragonsdaddy

11-30-2005, 06:00 PM

wait i thought Ryan Murry was kicking isnt he a senior?
you're right about the name. i thought he was a soph. my bad.

dragonfootballfan

11-30-2005, 06:01 PM

you're right about the name. i thought he was a soph. my bad.
I heard about this great freshman left-footed kicker who will step in next year. I wonder why we have not seen him yet?

rancher52

11-30-2005, 06:04 PM

What happened to Ortega? Did I miss something on him?

dragonfootballfan

11-30-2005, 06:07 PM

What happened to Ortega? Did I miss something on him?
injured

rancher52

11-30-2005, 06:08 PM

injured
I thought it was a back injury that had healed. In the Grapevine game he was dressed but they said he would be ready for the playoffs.... I must have missed any subsequent news.

dragonfootballfan

11-30-2005, 06:24 PM

I thought it was a back injury that had healed. In the Grapevine game he was dressed but they said he would be ready for the playoffs.... I must have missed any subsequent news.
re-injured

dragons08

11-30-2005, 07:57 PM

only kicking when needed, is what the FWSTR said

dragons08

11-30-2005, 07:59 PM

I heard about this great freshman left-footed kicker who will step in next year. I wonder why we have not seen him yet?
kid in band who is on the varsity soccer team, and is a junior this year, man that kid can kick!! ask yankeeman, what was it a 45? yarder, with gym shoes on, he might be trying out for football next year, hes "thinking about it"

edit- i accidently put we, i meant he

RAB-07

11-30-2005, 08:16 PM

kid in band who is on the varsity soccer team, and is a junior this year, man that kid can kick!! ask yankeeman, what was it a 45? yarder, with gym shoes on, we might be trying out for football next year, hes "thinking about it"

Will?

dragons08

11-30-2005, 10:43 PM

Will?
yea, im just curious who you are

BAMF cowboy

11-30-2005, 10:47 PM

soccer players = great kickers

ortega was an ex-one, murray is one

i guarantee you more than half of high school soccer players can kick 35, maybe 40 yards

dragons08

11-30-2005, 10:48 PM

soccer players = great kickers

ortega was an ex-one, murray is one

i guarantee you more than half of high school soccer players can kick 35, maybe 40 yards
ortega still plays soccer doesnt he?

BAMF cowboy

11-30-2005, 10:50 PM

im pretty sure he's not, in order to pursue kicking, like Hartley did

brad@sunshinepreps

12-02-2005, 04:36 PM

If Lufkin were to lose tonight and SLC wins, where do you guys think that game will be next week.

FootballJunkie

12-02-2005, 04:44 PM

Anyway...Lufkin will lose tonight and I am off to see it... I will be back later to report then we can speculate on the SLC -vs- Cove thread!!! Have a nice evening everyone:D

Packattack94

12-02-2005, 05:34 PM

I admire your cofidence. Every one needs to believe in something. I believe the panthers will win, however i also believe I'll have another beer.:)

toonman

12-03-2005, 08:58 AM

I admire your cofidence. Every one needs to believe in something. I believe the panthers will win, however i also believe I'll have another beer.:)

Whoever Lufkin plays - it is going to be a coin toss for texas Stadium or SFA in Nacogdoches.

Can any Lufkin Fan tell me about SFA Stadium. Capacity? - Real Grass or Artifical?

drgnbkr

12-03-2005, 09:08 AM

Anyway...Lufkin will lose tonight and I am off to see it... I will be back later to report then we can speculate on the SLC -vs- Cove thread!!! Have a nice evening everyone:D

Wow!

Red Raiders

12-03-2005, 09:11 AM

soccer players = great kickers

ortega was an ex-one, murray is one

i guarantee you more than half of high school soccer players can kick 35, maybe 40 yards

Yep Soccer players are great kickers including one of Tyler Lee's best kicker 5years ago went to Texas A@M than want onto NFL 2 years ago.

insider

12-03-2005, 09:16 AM

Whoever Lufkin plays - it is going to be a coin toss for texas Stadium or SFA in Nacogdoches.

Can any Lufkin Fan tell me about SFA Stadium. Capacity? - Real Grass or Artifical?

One reference - http://www.texasbob.com/football/playoff.html#BryceNacogdoches

Says capacity is 14,575 and has Momentum 51 surface. That would be a full stadium...

Favpack

12-03-2005, 09:23 AM

The Lufkin paper says the Plano/SLC winner will be a home/home flip with Lufkin - Texas Stadium or SFA at Nacogdoches. SFA is a good field, but well below average stadium. With grass seating (not bad sitting on the grass) - it will hold 24,000 pretty handily. I'm assuming Lufkin loses another coin toss - I think John is 1-5 on coin tosses this year. I was hoping for a Kyle Field venue - obviously no one shared that view.

boto24

12-03-2005, 09:28 AM

Why is Floyd Casey out of the question at this point?

Phoenixrising05

12-03-2005, 09:34 AM

Why is Floyd Casey out of the question at this point?

from what i've read on the boards Floyd is hosting a war veterans ceremony that weekend

how far is SFA from SL?

boto24

12-03-2005, 09:35 AM

Favpack

12-03-2005, 09:37 AM

from what i've read on the boards Floyd is hosting a war veterans ceremony that weekend

how far is SFA from SL?
I'll say 3.75 to 4 hours. Nac to Dallas is about 3 and change - so add 45 minutes to SL? It's not an easy drive - no direct freeway.

boto24

12-03-2005, 09:40 AM

from what i've read on the boards Floyd is hosting a war veterans ceremony that weekend

how far is SFA from SL?
I see. Here is the mapquest link for the drive:

http://www.mapquest.com/directions/main.adp?go=1&do=nw&rmm=1&un=m&cl=EN&ct=NA&rsres=1&1ahXX=&1y=US&1a=&1c=southlake&1s=tx&1z=&2ahXX=&2y=US&2a=&2c=nacogdoches&2s=tx&2z=

It is 206 miles and about 3.5 hours using this route.

Phoenixrising05

12-03-2005, 09:47 AM

thats a sick drive...how long b/w lufkin and TS (dallas)?

boto24

12-03-2005, 09:53 AM

thats a sick drive...how long b/w lufkin and TS (dallas)?
Probably 3.5-4 hours. I would leave the house early if it's at TS. And I would allow time to go to the ATM for the extra cash you'll need when you get raped by Jerry at TS.

rancher52

12-03-2005, 11:39 AM

Probably 3.5-4 hours. I would leave the house early if it's at TS. And I would allow time to go to the ATM for the extra cash you'll need when you get raped by Jerry at TS.
I know when my son went to SFA in Nac we drove it in 3 hours and I am west of SL.... I guess that makes sense from Lufkin to expect 3.5 hours. On a weekend the drive from TS to SL is only 20-25 minutes and the traffic is not bad. Around the stadium however it may be a different story.

TrojanHorse03

12-03-2005, 12:20 PM

Instead of trying to figure out "How will be beat Carroll?" opposing coaches need to figure out "How do we hold Carroll to under 40?" then the question becomes "How do we score points in the first half on Carroll?"

I could once again mettle in some Xs and Os, however the main thing is just not to play outside of yourself especially on offense. One thing I sense from the Plano players is the right mindset, their's a QUIET CONFIDENCE. The key to actually keeping Carroll's points down is matching their execution in all 3 phases of the game. People who don't watch Southlake dont realize how much points they get from their defense and excellent special teams play. Its not often I provide a score, this game personally reminds me of 2005 ND/USC in honor of that my score is 35-31....O yeah who wins..........SOUTHLAKE