View Full Version : Cove/Lufkin:strengths & weaknesses
Homer D
11-28-2005, 11:26 AM
Cove strengths: Senior leadership,they refuse to lose!!!
QB,very athletic,gets the job done no metter what,running or passing
RB,fastest kid in pads in Texas
Secondary,all four are D-1. do a great job whether run or pass
Coaching:they have never and will never get outcoached. you will be amazed at the adjustments these guys make on the fly.
weaknesses:starting receivers,we bring over def.people to catch our passes
injuries,we have one that will hurt
Overall,from talking and listening,I believe that Cove is superior in the off.backfield and Lufkin is superior at reciever.Secondary is a stallmate and all other positions seem to be ave. on both sides.The crowds will be huge but equal also.
Opinions?
Favpack
11-28-2005, 11:28 AM
Good work Homer - I'll add more later in the week - thanks for a calm, semi-objective viewpoint.
Lp'04
11-28-2005, 11:39 AM
Ive seen cove on film. And im not impressed. Their defense is the slowest thing to hit the earth next to a snail. Your RB isnt much of an athlete either. He slips on the turf when no one is around. I would to if i was that frail. Im tellin you cove aint ready. Their QB is a small white boi who cant throw if his life depended on it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D
Purple Nation!!!!!
wuzreallygoodctown
11-28-2005, 11:43 AM
WUTS REALLY GOOD COVE LETS SHUT LP'04 up hes all talk
dawgdude86
11-28-2005, 11:46 AM
Ive seen cove on film. And im not impressed. Their defense is the slowest thing to hit the earth next to a snail. Your RB isnt much of an athlete either. He slips on the turf when no one is around. I would to if i was that frail. Im tellin you cove aint ready. Their QB is a small white boi who cant throw if his life depended on it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D
Purple Nation!!!!!
Pack version of T82
No team could be 4 rounds deep with snails, frails , and a slow white boi.
Go back to class, the tardy bell just rang
PurpleNation
11-28-2005, 11:55 AM
Cove-Strength They are led by one of the best RB in the State who already holds a couple od D1 offers(UTEP) is one of them. There offensive can create mismatches to put up points on anybody. QB Garner is the ring leader for the Dawgs and brings great SENIOR leadership with him coming into this game. They try to use a power rushing attack to overwelm there opponets but like last week they showed you they can put the ball in the Air effectively. On the defensive side they fly around and make plays. Led by an above average secondary were no man sticks out before the other. #3(Name) can cause problem for the Pack on both sides of the ball. They seem to be well coached and rarely do they make a mistake.
Weakness- First time they are at this stage of the playoffs. The WR Corps is an below average group. They seem to struggle at times on offense against a good defense(Judson,AMC) both games they still found a way to win. They will finally face a team with as much if not more speed then them that cause cause problems for there style of football they play.
Lufkin- Strength Led by one of the most Talented WR Corps in the Country(Bryant,Thomas,Shankle,Gordon,Rains). They have 2 runningbacks that compliment each other(Speed, Power and scrappy). Lufkin has the more mobile QB in Jeremy Claybon a young left handed gun slinger that has taken the state by suprised and recently surpassed Reggie McNeal's passing recored. The defense is among one of the elite units in the state led by the best LB in 5A (Mandela Roberts) and the top DB in the state (Hewitt). A.J. Penson is another big time Big 12 recruit at DE/LB who will use his speed to his advantage against cove. Cove has not seen a defensive unit this good yet and it can very well be the differencr in the game.
Weakness- At times Lufkin's offensive is very unproductive by making simple mistakes(Holding Penalties). The offensive line was a big question mark early on and are all underclassmen. Though Claybon as emerged as an instant Star he still is young and has made a couple of mistakes in the Playoffs. But is coming off his best performance of the year against SG were he looked unstopable. Lufkin seems to crack under 3rd and long siuations were they just give to much cushion. Lufkin also needs to wrap up more instead of going for the big hit.
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pack0808
11-28-2005, 11:56 AM
Ive seen cove on film. And im not impressed. Their defense is the slowest thing to hit the earth next to a snail. Your RB isnt much of an athlete either. He slips on the turf when no one is around. I would to if i was that frail. Im tellin you cove aint ready. Their QB is a small white boi who cant throw if his life depended on it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D
Purple Nation!!!!!
Oh lord that is just a ridiculous post. I do not claim this one!! Even busted out with the white boy comment? :rolleyes: Let me think?, SLC is the #1 team in the nation that has beat our team 2 straight times and what are they?? 98 percent white. Lufkin has their share of white starters why do you have to bring race into this? Do not come in here with that garbage because the respectul Lufkin poster's in here will not back you i promise you that. Typical newbie coming out of the gates talking senseless smack like he is on one of those other smack talking boards. Cove is a very good team and they are not 13-0 by having a defense that is slow as snails and a pathetic white "boi" qb. Come on man think before you post.
PurpleNation
11-28-2005, 11:58 AM
Ive seen cove on film. And im not impressed. Their defense is the slowest thing to hit the earth next to a snail. Your RB isnt much of an athlete either. He slips on the turf when no one is around. I would to if i was that frail. Im tellin you cove aint ready. Their QB is a small white boi who cant throw if his life depended on it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D
Purple Nation!!!!!
I pray your not a real Lufkin fan if so shut your mouth. The only way you have seen film is if you play and im sure your a backup if you do. Shut up and let your helmet do the talking.
PurpleNation
11-28-2005, 11:59 AM
Oh lord that is just a ridiculous post. I do not claim this one!! Even busted out with the white boy comment? :rolleyes: Let me think?, SLC is the #1 team in the nation that has beat our team 2 straight times and what are they?? 98 percent white. Lufkin has their share of white starters why do you have to bring race into this? Do not come in here with that garbage because the respectul Lufkin poster's in here will not back you i promise you that. Typical newbie coming out of the gates talking senseless smack like he is on one of those other smack talking boards. Cove is a very good team and they are not 13-0 by having a defense that is slow as snails and a pathetic white "boi" qb. Come on man think before you post.
I agree Race should not be brought into this. If you can play football you can playfootball.
pack0808
11-28-2005, 12:00 PM
Cove-Strength They are led by one of the best RB in the State who already holds a couple od D1 offers(UTEP) is one of them. There offensive can create mismatches to put up points on anybody. QB Garner is the ring leader for the Dawgs and brings great SENIOR leadership with him coming into this game. They try to use a power rushing attack to overwelm there opponets but like last week they showed you they can put the ball in the Air effectively. On the defensive side they fly around and make plays. Led by an above average secondary were no man sticks out before the other. #3(Name) can cause problem for the Pack on both sides of the ball. They seem to be well coached and rarely do they make a mistake.
Weakness- First time they are at this stage of the playoffs. The WR Corps is an below average group. They seem to struggle at times on offense against a good defense(Judson,AMC) both games they still found a way to win. They will finally face a team with as much if not more speed then them that cause cause problems for there style of football they play.
Lufkin- Strength Led by one of the most Talented WR Corps in the Country(Bryant,Thomas,Shankle,Gordon,Rains). They have 2 runningbacks that compliment each other(Speed, Power and scrappy). Lufkin has the more mobile QB in Jeremy Claybon a young left handed gun slinger that has taken the state by suprised and recently surpassed Reggie McNeal's passing recored. The defense is among one of the elite units in the state led by the best LB in 5A (Mandela Roberts) and the top DB in the state (Hewitt). A.J. Penson is another big time Big 12 recruit at DE/LB who will use his speed to his advantage against cove. Cove has not seen a defensive unit this good yet and it can very well be the differencr in the game.
Weakness- At times Lufkin's offensive is very unproductive by making simple mistakes(Holding Penalties). The offensive line was a big question mark early on and are all underclassmen. Though Claybon as emerged as an instant Star he still is young and has made a couple of mistakes in the Playoffs. But is coming off his best performance of the year against SG were he looked unstopable. Lufkin seems to crack under 3rd and long siuations were they just give to much cushion. Lufkin also needs to wrap up more instead of going for the big hit.
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Claybon has 24 td's to only 7 int's (broke Reggie's td record by 3 in three less games) and he has thrown for 2000 plus yards and you gave Cove the edge there? Claybon is very fast and can scramble also. What kind of stats does the Cove qb have?? He might have better stats but i seriously doubt it? I agree with the rest of your assessment though.
PurpleNation
11-28-2005, 12:03 PM
Claybon has 24 td's to only 7 int's (broke Reggie's td record by 3 in three less games) and he has thrown for 2000 plus yards and you gave Cove the edge there? Claybon is very fast and can scramble also. What kind of stats does the Cove qb have?? They might be better but i seriously doubt it? I agree with the rest of your assessment though.
The only reason why I gave Cove the Edge at QB is that Senion Leadership and that is something you cant teach. Plus Garner is a pretty mobile guy himself. I feel Claybon is the better Athlete but Garner is the most likely to make less mistakes to get his team beat.
Pineywoodsrooter
11-28-2005, 12:04 PM
Lp 04 you are a disgrace to the people of Lufkin saying that about the Quaterback. Who cares what color he is.
pack0808
11-28-2005, 12:06 PM
The only reason why I gave Cove the Edge at QB is that Senion Leadership and that is something you cant teach. Plus Garner is a pretty mobile guy himself. I feel Claybon is the better Athlete but Garner is the most likely to make less mistakes to get his team beat.
Probably because he throws a lot less? Anytime you are passing team and you throw the ball as much as Lufkin does there is a greater chance for mistakes from the qb position. 24 td's to only 7 int's is still pretty impressive. :eek: I respect your opinion but i just do not know much about the Cove qb so i can make a fair assessment. Do you have the stats on the Cove qb?
dawgdude86
11-28-2005, 12:12 PM
Claybon has 24 td's to only 7 int's (broke Reggie's td record by 3 in three less games) and he has thrown for 2000 plus yards and you gave Cove the edge there? Claybon is very fast and can scramble also. What kind of stats does the Cove qb have?? He might have better stats but i seriously doubt it? I agree with the rest of your assessment though.
I can tell you that Brent does not have better passing numbers. We only put the ball in the air 17 times against Garland and that is a lot for us. If your front line is over aggressive to get out and chase #32 he can and will keep and break up the middle. He is the second leading rusher for the Dawgs. I expect a great game with 2 of the best D's in the state. Good Luck Pack, safe travels, see you in Waco.
wide-e-wide
11-28-2005, 12:15 PM
Boi? What the hell is that?
BTW...Troy Aikman and Brett Favre are slow "white" boys...they did pretty good for themselves don't you think?
Hell the Hall of Fame is full of slow "white" boys.
The comment wasn't really racist...but I bet the pitiful jerk that said it is...
PurpleNation
11-28-2005, 12:25 PM
Probably because he throws a lot less? Anytime you are passing team and you throw the ball as much as Lufkin does there is a greater chance for mistakes from the qb position. 24 td's to only 7 int's is still pretty impressive. :eek: I respect your opinion but i just do not know much about the Cove qb so i can make a fair assessment. Do you have the stats on the Cove qb?
I havent been able to find his season stats.
Last week he was 14-17 over 250 yards passing with 2 TD's two of the incomplete passes were dropped TD's and the pther was a pass he threw away.
PurpleNation
11-28-2005, 12:27 PM
Boi? What the hell is that?
BTW...Troy Aikman and Brett Favre are slow "white" boys...they did pretty good for themselves don't you think?
Hell the Hall of Fame is full of slow "white" boys.
The comment wasn't really racist...but I bet the pitiful jerk that said it is...
You forgot about John Elway, Johnny Unitas, Joe Naimeth
Just for laugh have you ever heard that Joke what does the Denver Broncos and OJ Simpson have in commen. They Both have a Slow White Bronco.
But yeah they guy that made that remark is an idiot.
wuzreallygoodctown
11-28-2005, 12:29 PM
Lp'04 needs to get banned he does not know football
CoveFan05
11-28-2005, 12:53 PM
Claybon has 24 td's to only 7 int's (broke Reggie's td record by 3 in three less games) and he has thrown for 2000 plus yards and you gave Cove the edge there? Claybon is very fast and can scramble also. What kind of stats does the Cove qb have?? He might have better stats but i seriously doubt it? I agree with the rest of your assessment though.
The Cove QB has thrown for about 1300 yds and has rushed for 900 with about 25 or 30 TD's this year
Favpack
11-28-2005, 01:01 PM
The Cove QB has thrown for about 1300 yds and has rushed for 900 with about 25 or 30 TD's this year
While I havent' seen him play - Garner's qb numbers are very good. The most impressive is 5 td runs OVER 35 yards. The kids obviously mobile - and also very accurate - he'll be a handful.
CoveFan05
11-28-2005, 01:46 PM
While I havent' seen him play - Garner's qb numbers are very good. The most impressive is 5 td runs OVER 35 yards. The kids obviously mobile - and also very accurate - he'll be a handful.
One unforgettable run was against HH. It was like 3rd and 1 at midfield ran a QB sneak and he busted it for a TD.....Buckram and Garner don't look like much when you see them, but they can drag people and break tackles like no one you know.....Buckram dragged a big Garland players like 15 yds Fri night
pack0808
11-28-2005, 03:04 PM
One unforgettable run was against HH. It was like 3rd and 1 at midfield ran a QB sneak and he busted it for a TD.....Buckram and Garner don't look like much when you see them, but they can drag people and break tackles like no one you know.....Buckram dragged a big Garland players like 15 yds Fri night
As Lufkin fan's, we are very very familiar with a rb that is capable of dragging and running over people believe me. Except he did look like a beast! ;) We had one of the best ever at doing that and his name is J Lane the Train.
c-lisle
11-28-2005, 03:25 PM
Claybon has 24 td's to only 7 int's (broke Reggie's td record by 3 in three less games) and he has thrown for 2000 plus yards and you gave Cove the edge there? Claybon is very fast and can scramble also. What kind of stats does the Cove qb have?? He might have better stats but i seriously doubt it? I agree with the rest of your assessment though.
I came to the SG game and was very impressed with Claybon. He has really filled in the gap. And he is exactly as you all said. He is alot like Mcneal. Also Roberts is everything I've heard. That guy is very good.
I give a big advantage to LP for two reasons:
1. I think they are the second best team in the state
2. Awesome coaching and they have been knocking on the door the past few years. I think it is their year.
Favpack
11-28-2005, 03:30 PM
I came to the SG game and was very impressed with Claybon. He has really filled in the gap. And he is exactly as you all said. He is alot like Mcneal. Also Roberts is everything I've heard. That guy is very good.
I give a big advantage to LP for two reasons:
1. I think they are the second best team in the state
2. Awesome coaching and they have been knocking on the door the past few years. I think it is their year.
Glad you made it man - a little soggy huh? Mandela had his best game of the year IMO Saturday. Claybon played decent, but his best game was the week prior against Hays. Jeremy has made great progress this year and has probably over-delivered in many areas - He has really made us proud breaking Reggie's TD record as a junior. Could be special next year - with his two primaryl receivers back as well.
LPFAN
11-28-2005, 03:38 PM
Ive seen cove on film. And im not impressed. Their defense is the slowest thing to hit the earth next to a snail. Your RB isnt much of an athlete either. He slips on the turf when no one is around. I would to if i was that frail. Im tellin you cove aint ready. Their QB is a small white boi who cant throw if his life depended on it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D
Purple Nation!!!!!
Ease up there boy. You don't want to be labeled a T82. Cove has theirs and most of the Cove fans don't claim him. We don't need a T82 for a Lufkin fan. A T82 is a pop-up smack talker that comes in here all of the sudden during the playoffs and starts spewing smack. Just show a little respect for the other teams. Cove is good and they would not be in the 4th round if they weren't. It should be a great game.
pack0808
11-28-2005, 04:13 PM
Glad you made it man - a little soggy huh? Mandela had his best game of the year IMO Saturday. Claybon played decent, but his best game was the week prior against Hays. Jeremy has made great progress this year and has probably over-delivered in many areas - He has really made us proud breaking Reggie's TD record as a junior. Could be special next year - with his two primaryl receivers back as well.
Roberts has been having games like that all year? He is just a great middle lb and had another great game like he usually does. 100 plus tackles a zillion tackles for losses and about 6 to 7 sacks. Eric Taylor and Penson are right behind him numbers wise. Murphy and Hurts are key though. They do not get all the #'s but they are the key to everybody else making plays in the front 7. The defense was very solid and looked like the D i know and love. The sophomore cb that just came up, looked very good. He had a int and is built! He has some popeye calf's. Seems to me Lufkin does this almost every year. Bring a sophomore up to shine in the playoffs. Dez last year and Mckinner Dixon did it in 2002. Maybe Terry will be that guy this year? I think his last name was Terry? Nice group of cb's with Landry, Hewitt, Brown, Harris, Jackson, and this new guy. Be great if they can get by Cove and face SLC with all of those guy's healthy. Could be interesting if the front 7 can get pressure vs SLC like they have vs everybody else all year. Oh yeah Cove is a great team and i should not be looking ahead. I am a fan though and i do not matter.
LPanther
11-28-2005, 04:24 PM
I am a fan though and i do not matter.
pack0808.....you do really matter....don't act like you're nothing.....we all care....**goes back to picking daisies and listening to Captain & Tenille's "Love Will Keep Us Together" :rolleyes:
LPFAN
11-28-2005, 04:31 PM
Lp'04 needs to get banned he does not know football
Yeah so does the original T82. The infamous Trooper82d!!!!:eek:
PantherStang84
11-28-2005, 04:35 PM
I think his last name was Terry?
Pack08 the kid you're talking about is Darius Terry. He is the same age as my oldest son. I have been watching him since they were 12. He is just an all around cracker jack athlete. Darius will be fun to watch the next few years.
pack0808
11-28-2005, 04:35 PM
pack0808.....you do really matter....don't act like you're nothing.....we all care....**goes back to picking daisies and listening to Captain & Tenille's "Love Will Keep Us Together" :rolleyes:
Ok i do matter i really do. ;) I am the key to the victory and if i look ahead to SLC the panthers are in big trouble. HAHA!
Covedawg
11-28-2005, 05:06 PM
The only reason why I gave Cove the Edge at QB is that Senion Leadership and that is something you cant teach. Plus Garner is a pretty mobile guy himself. I feel Claybon is the better Athlete but Garner is the most likely to make less mistakes to get his team beat.
Garner is the sparkplug that lights this team's fuss.....he rarely makes a mental mistake, In the Judson game,he came of the bench in the 2nd quarter(injurted in Killeen game) with Cove down 13-0, and lead the comeback, he even kicked a 42 yrd FG with sore ribs and all to make it 13-10 at half, and at the end of the game with 10 sec on clock he scrambled and the wr ran wrong route, he still made the TD pass for the win. Garner will drop back to pass, or roll out to pass, but if it's not there, tuck and run, or hit a coach with the ball. He has not been sacked much at all. He will also level someone with a block on runs as well. I guess what I'm saying is that Brent is the General on the field and the rest look to him. Our mostly running team was 14-17 in the air for 165 yrds and 2 TD's against Garland.
I would have to agree with PURPLENATION and give Cove the QB edge, and I agree with the rest of his assessment
still feel
Cove 34
Lufkin 24
Homer D
11-28-2005, 05:31 PM
He has sacrificed for the team with his stats.He was all-state last year in baseball (batted 570 ) and has standing offeres from 2 D-1 school for FB and BB . He has been New commer of the year as a soph in FB as a receiver in our district and has made all district from his freshman year in every sport he participated in. His record as a Varsity qb is 23 and 2.Why the white boy comment? I will say this, there will NOT be a better athlete on the field Friday night.And yes ,he is white.
c-town_scout
11-28-2005, 05:33 PM
Ive seen cove on film. And im not impressed. Their defense is the slowest thing to hit the earth next to a snail. Your RB isnt much of an athlete either. He slips on the turf when no one is around. I would to if i was that frail. Im tellin you cove aint ready. Their QB is a small white boi who cant throw if his life depended on it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D
Purple Nation!!!!!
You have obviously seen the wrong team! Garner is one of the best QB's in the state! And Buckram is an explosive back...ok...so he slipped a couple of times during the Garland game! So what!! He isnt perfect and neither is your team! And our defense is slow?? You must really be watchin the wrong team...you must have watched the linemans challange or something! Cove is really fast and im not just sayin that cause I live here! Lufkin is fast also, i have yet to see them in person but on tape you guys are really good! And Garner cant throw if his life depended on it?? HA...he is a very accurate and has a cannon!...So..are u sure that u saw the real Copperas Cove? I bet you if u ask people from Lufkin if Coves defense was slow that they would laugh! Cove is fast and so is Lufkin...4th quarter game!
GOOD LUCK BOTH TEAMS!
c-town_scout
11-28-2005, 05:35 PM
Originally Posted by Lp'04
Ive seen cove on film. And im not impressed. Their defense is the slowest thing to hit the earth next to a snail. Your RB isnt much of an athlete either. He slips on the turf when no one is around. I would to if i was that frail. Im tellin you cove aint ready. Their QB is a small white boi who cant throw if his life depended on it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Purple Nation!!!!!
and what does him being white have to do anything?
LPFAN
11-28-2005, 05:45 PM
Originally Posted by Lp'04
Ive seen cove on film. And im not impressed. Their defense is the slowest thing to hit the earth next to a snail. Your RB isnt much of an athlete either. He slips on the turf when no one is around. I would to if i was that frail. Im tellin you cove aint ready. Their QB is a small white boi who cant throw if his life depended on it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Purple Nation!!!!!
and what does him being white have to do anything?
Not a DANG thing. He is a T82 so just ignore him. We true Lufkin fans know that Cove is a great team. There is always a few pop up smack talkers that like to come in here with some nonsense. You will see that he is not a reflection of most Lufkin fans in here just as trooper82d is not a reflection of the true Cove fans. See you guys on Friday.
c-lisle
11-28-2005, 05:59 PM
Glad you made it man - a little soggy huh? Mandela had his best game of the year IMO Saturday. Claybon played decent, but his best game was the week prior against Hays. Jeremy has made great progress this year and has probably over-delivered in many areas - He has really made us proud breaking Reggie's TD record as a junior. Could be special next year - with his two primaryl receivers back as well.
I was really impressed with the zip and accuracy of some of his passes. That guy will be very good the next few years. I will listen this week over the net, next week is the game I want to see. I know LP won't be looking ahead I'm sure Outlaw won't allow that. I really think with that D you can beat anyone.
DawgDave
11-28-2005, 06:08 PM
Cove's defense is slow?
Garner isn't much of a threat?
Buckrum falls down?
Gee, then that must not have been your scouts at the game last Friday night.
They left most impressed, shaking their heads, wondering how they are going to stop Garner and Buckrum, and how to run away from Tim Atchison.
Two weeks before, when Cove was demolishing Klein Forrest, Leander's scouts left in the third quarter. We mentioned to them good luck next week. They sarc astically replied "Yeah, right".
Favpack
11-28-2005, 06:33 PM
Cove's defense is slow?
Garner isn't much of a threat?
Buckrum falls down?
Gee, then that must not have been your scouts at the game last Friday night.
They left most impressed, shaking their heads, wondering how they are going to stop Garner and Buckrum, and how to run away from Tim Atchison.
Two weeks before, when Cove was demolishing Klein Forrest, Leander's scouts left in the third quarter. We mentioned to them good luck next week. They sarc astically replied "Yeah, right".
DD - Don't pay attention to that faker. Yes - the Lufkin coaches are very impressed with CCove - that's a guarantee. "Playmakers on both sides of the ball" was one statement I've heard more than once.
DawgFootballGirlOh9
11-28-2005, 06:37 PM
Cove-Strength They are led by one of the best RB in the State who already holds a couple od D1 offers(UTEP) is one of them. There offensive can create mismatches to put up points on anybody. QB Garner is the ring leader for the Dawgs and brings great SENIOR leadership with him coming into this game. They try to use a power rushing attack to overwelm there opponets but like last week they showed you they can put the ball in the Air effectively. On the defensive side they fly around and make plays. Led by an above average secondary were no man sticks out before the other. #3(Name) can cause problem for the Pack on both sides of the ball. They seem to be well coached and rarely do they make a mistake.
Weakness- First time they are at this stage of the playoffs. The WR Corps is an below average group. They seem to struggle at times on offense against a good defense(Judson,AMC) both games they still found a way to win. They will finally face a team with as much if not more speed then them that cause cause problems for there style of football they play.
Lufkin- Strength Led by one of the most Talented WR Corps in the Country(Bryant,Thomas,Shankle,Gordon,Rains). They have 2 runningbacks that compliment each other(Speed, Power and scrappy). Lufkin has the more mobile QB in Jeremy Claybon a young left handed gun slinger that has taken the state by suprised and recently surpassed Reggie McNeal's passing recored. The defense is among one of the elite units in the state led by the best LB in 5A (Mandela Roberts) and the top DB in the state (Hewitt). A.J. Penson is another big time Big 12 recruit at DE/LB who will use his speed to his advantage against cove. Cove has not seen a defensive unit this good yet and it can very well be the differencr in the game.
Weakness- At times Lufkin's offensive is very unproductive by making simple mistakes(Holding Penalties). The offensive line was a big question mark early on and are all underclassmen. Though Claybon as emerged as an instant Star he still is young and has made a couple of mistakes in the Playoffs. But is coming off his best performance of the year against SG were he looked unstopable. Lufkin seems to crack under 3rd and long siuations were they just give to much cushion. Lufkin also needs to wrap up more instead of going for the big hit.
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kk
Favpack
11-28-2005, 06:40 PM
By the way.. that #3.. Mario Goins (my big brother).. he is out for the season.. he got a broken collar bone last game.. during his 3ed interception!
:(
Sorry to hear that for your brother - he was definitely a big time playmaker - is he a senior?
Red Raiders
11-28-2005, 06:51 PM
I would think Copperas Cove have better Offense than Lufkin Offense but Lufkin Defense is very powerful than Cove Defense so this will be a challenging game and pretty much equal.
Primetime536
11-28-2005, 06:54 PM
QB-LUFKIN(VERY CLOSE)
RB-COVE
WR-LUFKIN
O-LINE-LUFKIN
OFFENSE-COVE
DB-LUFKIN(HOW EVER CLOSER THEN YOU MAY THINK)
LB-LUFKIN
D-LINE-LUFKIN
DEFENSE-LUFKIN
DISCIPLINE-COVE
COACHING-EVEN
Coves QB Brent Gardner is VERY VERY athletic. The idiot who called him a slow white boy is just stupid. Gardner makes tons of plays using his speed and quick feet. Against HH, he broke the game open with 2 TD runs.
Lufkins QB Clayborn, is also very athletic. His speed allows him to make plays and buy time to hit up his very talented WR.
I think Coves offense is so great because their disciplain. Cove hardly ever gets flagged for stupid fouls. Jack Weltch makes great ajustments to put his team in a position to win.
Although cove has such a great rushing attack, i wonder if they can move the ball on the ground against Coves great D. Waters, from hayes, was unstopable untill he played Lufkin where he was shut down. I really wonder if coves Donald Buckram can run against LP. If Buckram cant run the ball against LP, I wouldnt doubt if Gardner forces a few TO.
If Cove wins: They will have 190+ rushing yards.They will need to Pound it, and pound it, and eventually develope the playaction fake. I think Cove will also have to win the special teams battle. They will have to get good field position, or get points off ST. Finally, I feel if Cove wins, Gardner will have a gamebreaking run over 30 yards for a score OR Gardner will dump the ball out to Buckram and he will throw for a TD(coves has sucess with this 3or4 times this season).
If Lufkin wins: They will dominate Coves secondary. Coves only real threat in the secondary is Tim achinson and #89(im not sure if hes 89 but I know he has a rediculous #), if Clayborn throws away from Them, LPs WR should be in for a good game. I also feel LP will need to contain Coves rushing attack to around 150-175 yards.
Bottom lind
COVE-21
PACK-24
This is what i feel after seeing a few of each teams games
Red Raiders
11-28-2005, 06:55 PM
QB-LUFKIN(VERY CLOSE)
RB-COVE
WR-LUFKIN
O-LINE-LUFKIN
OFFENSE-COVE
DB-LUFKIN(HOW EVER CLOSER THEN YOU MAY THINK)
LB-LUFKIN
D-LINE-LUFKIN
DEFENSE-LUFKIN
DISCIPLINE-COVE
COACHING-EVEN
Coves QB Brent Gardner is VERY VERY athletic. The idiot who called him a slow white boy is just stupid. Gardner makes tons of plays using his speed and quick feet. Against HH, he broke the game open with 2 TD runs.
Lufkins QB Clayborn, is also very athletic. His speed allows him to make plays and buy time to hit up his very talented WR.
I think Coves offense is so great because their disciplain. Cove hardly ever gets flagged for stupid fouls. Jack Weltch makes great ajustments to put his team in a position to win.
Although cove has such a great rushing attack, i wonder if they can move the ball on the ground against Coves great D. Waters, from hayes, was unstopable untill he played Lufkin where he was shut down. I really wonder if coves Donald Buckram can run against LP. If Buckram cant run the ball against LP, I wouldnt doubt if Gardner forces a few TO.
If Cove wins: They will have 190+ rushing yards.They will need to Pound it, and pound it, and eventually develope the playaction fake. I think Cove will also have to win the special teams battle. They will have to get good field position, or get points off ST. Finally, I feel if Cove wins, Gardner will have a gamebreaking run over 30 yards for a score OR Gardner will dump the ball out to Buckram and he will throw for a TD(coves has sucess with this 3or4 times this season).
If Lufkin wins: They will dominate Coves secondary. Coves only real threat in the secondary is Tim achinson and #89(im not sure if hes 89 but I know he has a rediculous #), if Clayborn throws away from Them, LPs WR should be in for a good game. I also feel LP will need to contain Coves rushing attack to around 150-175 yards.
This is what i feel after watching a few of each teams games
I hear alot about Brent Gardner making awesome plays and sure he is great at Qb!
DawgFootballGirlOh9
11-28-2005, 07:17 PM
Sorry to hear that for your brother - he was definitely a big time playmaker - is he a senior?
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constance108
11-28-2005, 07:21 PM
they both are good and they both are fast but i think lufkin has a better defense and i think they showed a little of it last week
CCDawgs05
11-28-2005, 07:29 PM
QB-LUFKIN(VERY CLOSE)
RB-COVE
WR-LUFKIN
O-LINE-LUFKIN
OFFENSE-COVE
DB-LUFKIN(HOW EVER CLOSER THEN YOU MAY THINK)
LB-LUFKIN
D-LINE-LUFKIN
DEFENSE-LUFKIN
DISCIPLINE-COVE
COACHING-EVEN
Coves QB Brent Gardner is VERY VERY athletic. The idiot who called him a slow white boy is just stupid. Gardner makes tons of plays using his speed and quick feet. Against HH, he broke the game open with 2 TD runs.
Lufkins QB Clayborn, is also very athletic. His speed allows him to make plays and buy time to hit up his very talented WR.
I think Coves offense is so great because their disciplain. Cove hardly ever gets flagged for stupid fouls. Jack Weltch makes great ajustments to put his team in a position to win.
Although cove has such a great rushing attack, i wonder if they can move the ball on the ground against Coves great D. Waters, from hayes, was unstopable untill he played Lufkin where he was shut down. I really wonder if coves Donald Buckram can run against LP. If Buckram cant run the ball against LP, I wouldnt doubt if Gardner forces a few TO.
If Cove wins: They will have 190+ rushing yards.They will need to Pound it, and pound it, and eventually develope the playaction fake. I think Cove will also have to win the special teams battle. They will have to get good field position, or get points off ST. Finally, I feel if Cove wins, Gardner will have a gamebreaking run over 30 yards for a score OR Gardner will dump the ball out to Buckram and he will throw for a TD(coves has sucess with this 3or4 times this season).
If Lufkin wins: They will dominate Coves secondary. Coves only real threat in the secondary is Tim achinson and #89(im not sure if hes 89 but I know he has a rediculous #), if Clayborn throws away from Them, LPs WR should be in for a good game. I also feel LP will need to contain Coves rushing attack to around 150-175 yards.
Bottom lind
COVE-21
PACK-24
This is what i feel after seeing a few of each teams games
there oline is better thanm oursz???????????.....are u ill or something?????
pack98
11-28-2005, 07:42 PM
hey brother Purple Nation. that was a great post about strenghts and weknesses. good job that is one of the few post that i have read that was about equal and true from what i can get about both teams good job. finally a a good topic that we can all talk about with out getting trooper82nd or anything else crazy.
And the one Lufkin fan that is very classles what you did. dont get on this board and talk smack about things and just post 1 time.
GO PANTHERS
AGAIN PANTHERS BEATING COVE!!!! by 7
Primetime536
11-28-2005, 07:48 PM
there oline is better thanm oursz???????????.....are u ill or something?????
Lufkins o-line is pritty good.......Coves is good, but a little undersized,,,,number 7 and the other end will dominate coves line
Primetime536
11-28-2005, 07:49 PM
hey brother Purple Nation. that was a great post about strenghts and weknesses. good job that is one of the few post that i have read that was about equal and true from what i can get about both teams good job. finally a a good topic that we can all talk about with out getting trooper82nd or anything else crazy.
And the one Lufkin fan that is very classles what you did. dont get on this board and talk smack about things and just post 1 time.
GO PANTHERS
AGAIN PANTHERS BEATING COVE!!!! by 7
If your talking to me,,,,thats HH nation,,,,if not,,,,my bad
joe_LP
11-28-2005, 08:01 PM
It's going to be a good game but LP should win by at least 10.Cove hasn't seen this kind of speed all year. They're beginning to play like a state champion team on both sides of the ball. Few penalties and a big spread;many penalties and close game.
DawgFootballGirlOh9
11-28-2005, 08:05 PM
Sorry to hear that for your brother - he was definitely a big time playmaker - is he a senior?
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knights15
11-28-2005, 08:14 PM
i think cove will come out strong ready for dem lufkin panthers. all i have to say is if lufkin come out agianst cove like they did us, cove will be ending lufkins runs at a state championship, and will be playing SLC next week in the semifinals. it will be a great game and i see this one coming down to whoever has last possesion. these teams are to close to decide. with nthe offense that lufkin runs i think that coach welch may be talkin to Boss Ross a little to see how to shut dem boys down. do be surprised if this is a low scoreing game.
Cove 28
Lufkin 24
Favpack
11-28-2005, 08:15 PM
Girloh9 - good to hear about him.
Until the playoffs started - Lufkin had a first class D. The D simply didn't play to it's similar high level in the first two rounds - just seemed to be off in all defensive phases. The D played better against a very skilled Hays Consol. in Round 2, but still gave up some plays - too many.
Lufkin definitely stepped it up a huge notch against a talented SGarland O. The D gave up ZERO rushing yards - yep, as in none. SG quickly moved to the pass -and Lufkin had a totally new set in the secondary that really seemed to work against SG. Darrius Terry, who I assume played JV this year as a soph., was brought in to play on many passing downs and had a great game. He had an int. that almost went all the way back for a td - and several good tackles. Leonard Hewitt rolled over to safety where he is truly lethal roaming the ball. Jamie Harris appeared to feel much more comfortable in this set - and he came up with a fumble recovery and a great pick.
I think one of the best D's in Texas has returned with a vengeance. Good timing -they will be tested mightily Fri. night.
pack98
11-28-2005, 08:32 PM
i was talking to Purple nation about his thoughts. but the other thoughts were great to. purple nation is my brother.
GO PANTHERS
Ladypack34
11-28-2005, 08:51 PM
there oline is better thanm oursz???????????.....are u ill or something?????
We have a good O-LINE...young...but good...they've improved ALOT this season
poolangel
11-28-2005, 09:41 PM
Just sittin back and reading a lot posts early this week. I already have a knot in my stomach that I know will not go away unless the Dawgs are up by 17 points going into the 4th qtr. So what are the chances of that? I will probably have this knot until the clock reads 00:00. In reality, we all know that any team could have a bad day for various reasons. I am praying for the Dawgs to have great vision, great speed and strength on Friday. I will say this with as much unbias as I can; there is little pressure on the Dawgs to do anything other then play their game. They have already proven themselves to the Dawg family. The team believes if they execute their game the way they can, they will win. On the other hand, I believe there are a lot of Texans watching this game and waiting to see what Lufkin does, expecting them to out perform their opponents. This may put a load of pressure on the Panthers to play a mistake free game, knowing that Cove will capitalize on them. Bottom line, the team that makes the mistakes will probably lose. I know that can be the Dawgs (explains the knot), but this is where they will show thier level of maturity. In short I don't think the fact that Lufkin has been here before and often will be as much help as harm in this particular situation. Good luck to both teams, I've said it before, you guys have an awesome program, you have what we want! Go Dawgs!
Ladypack34
11-28-2005, 09:50 PM
Just sittin back and reading a lot posts early this week. I already have a knot in my stomach that I know will not go away unless the Dawgs are up by 17 points going into the 4th qtr. So what are the chances of that? I will probably have this knot until the clock reads 00:00. In reality, we all know that any team could have a bad day for various reasons. I am praying for the Dawgs to have great vision, great speed and strength on Friday. I will say this with as much unbias as I can; there is little pressure on the Dawgs to do anything other then play their game. They have already proven themselves to the Dawg family. The team believes if they execute their game the way they can, they will win. On the other hand, I believe there are a lot of Texans watching this game and waiting to see what Lufkin does, expecting them to out perform their opponents. This may put a load of pressure on the Panthers to play a mistake free game, knowing that Cove will capitalize on them. Bottom line, the team that makes the mistakes will probably lose. I know that can be the Dawgs (explains the knot), but this is where they will show thier level of maturity. In short I don't think the fact that Lufkin has been here before and often will be as much help as harm in this particular situation. Good luck to both teams, I've said it before, you guys have an awesome program, you have what we want! Go Dawgs!
Without saying who will win...(I HOPE LUFKIN) neither team will blow the other out...it is promised to be a good game...(thats what coach outlaw told me)
pack4life
11-28-2005, 09:55 PM
Special Teams:::
Coverage for LP has looked good most of the season.
The kick return unit is flat out SCARY.. *no one has kicked deep to Lufkin the entire playoffs, should be interesting to see if Cove does*
Jaime F. has been in a funk lately, he needs to snap out of it! This is not the Jaime i'm used to seeing.
PantherStang84
11-28-2005, 10:38 PM
This may put a load of pressure on the Panthers to play a mistake free game, knowing that Cove will capitalize on them.
I wouldn't count on this happening. The whole team effort is just now starting to jell. The kids are playing with a ton of confidence and poise right now. I expect this game to be an all out slobber knocker. Neither team will roll over, they will both fight to the end. The difference just may be the coaching. Which coach panics first kind of deal.
Covedawg
11-28-2005, 11:51 PM
Special Teams:::
Coverage for LP has looked good most of the season.
The kick return unit is flat out SCARY.. *no one has kicked deep to Lufkin the entire playoffs, should be interesting to see if Cove does*
Jaime F. has been in a funk lately, he needs to snap out of it! This is not the Jaime i'm used to seeing.
The one stat I want Lufkin to lead in is kickoff return yardage........
but Cove's kicker has been booming them out of the endzone as of late, but I would like to see Lufkin have 5-6 chances at a return........
PowerPack'd
11-29-2005, 12:11 AM
I havent been able to find his season stats.
Last week he was 14-17 over 250 yards passing with 2 TD's two of the incomplete passes were dropped TD's and the pther was a pass he threw away.
The "Player of the Week" part of this site has Garner at 14-17 for 174 yards and 2 TDs last week.
PowerPack'd
11-29-2005, 12:13 AM
One unforgettable run was against HH. It was like 3rd and 1 at midfield ran a QB sneak and he busted it for a TD.....Buckram and Garner don't look like much when you see them, but they can drag people and break tackles like no one you know.....Buckram dragged a big Garland players like 15 yds Fri night
Like no one we know??? You forget we had Jorvorskie Lane last year!
PowerPack'd
11-29-2005, 12:18 AM
He has sacrificed for the team with his stats.He was all-state last year in baseball (batted 570 ) and has standing offeres from 2 D-1 school for FB and BB . He has been New commer of the year as a soph in FB as a receiver in our district and has made all district from his freshman year in every sport he participated in. His record as a Varsity qb is 23 and 2.Why the white boy comment? I will say this, there will NOT be a better athlete on the field Friday night.And yes ,he is white.
Color don't matter. As you can tell from the previous posts all of Lufkin is disowning LP'04.
c-town_scout
11-29-2005, 12:46 AM
Like no one we know??? You forget we had Jorvorskie Lane last year!
we all know that u had him..but that was last year!! lol we have garner and buckram this year!
pack0808
11-29-2005, 11:02 AM
we all know that u had him..but that was last year!! lol we have garner and buckram this year!
Kibble and Turner are a lot better rb's then many give them credit for. Especially Turner #12. He is averaging close to 8 yards per carry and he is finally at 100 percent after having nagging injuries all season. He will be a stud next year mark my words. He is the 2nd fastest on the team and has great vision and nice moves. Kibble is more of a low to the ground power runner. He will not bust many big ones. He is good in short yardage situations. Turner is the game breaking rb capable of taking it to the house on any play. Also, Lufkin will use wr Shankle 4.3 and Thomas on runs. Shankle has several big runs for td's. The running game for Lufkin is not as bad as some think. It actually can be very very good at times. If Cove drops a lot back trying to stop Lufkin's lethal passing game then the running game is very capable of a big day just like the last 3 games. Teams in the playoffs are making an effort to drop many back to stop the pass and are not bringing enough up in the box. Claybon is a very capable runner at qb also.
nowsthetime
11-29-2005, 03:01 PM
Ive seen cove on film. And im not impressed. Their defense is the slowest thing to hit the earth next to a snail. Your RB isnt much of an athlete either. He slips on the turf when no one is around. I would to if i was that frail. Im tellin you cove aint ready. Their QB is a small white boi who cant throw if his life depended on it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D
Purple Nation!!!!!
14 of 17 passing in the last game....you're right....he can't pass....go tell your secondary they can take the night off
nowsthetime
11-29-2005, 03:05 PM
Cove-Strength They are led by one of the best RB in the State who already holds a couple od D1 offers(UTEP) is one of them. There offensive can create mismatches to put up points on anybody. QB Garner is the ring leader for the Dawgs and brings great SENIOR leadership with him coming into this game. They try to use a power rushing attack to overwelm there opponets but like last week they showed you they can put the ball in the Air effectively. On the defensive side they fly around and make plays. Led by an above average secondary were no man sticks out before the other. #3(Name) can cause problem for the Pack on both sides of the ball. They seem to be well coached and rarely do they make a mistake.
Weakness- First time they are at this stage of the playoffs. The WR Corps is an below average group. They seem to struggle at times on offense against a good defense(Judson,AMC) both games they still found a way to win. They will finally face a team with as much if not more speed then them that cause cause problems for there style of football they play.
Lufkin- Strength Led by one of the most Talented WR Corps in the Country(Bryant,Thomas,Shankle,Gordon,Rains). They have 2 runningbacks that compliment each other(Speed, Power and scrappy). Lufkin has the more mobile QB in Jeremy Claybon a young left handed gun slinger that has taken the state by suprised and recently surpassed Reggie McNeal's passing recored. The defense is among one of the elite units in the state led by the best LB in 5A (Mandela Roberts) and the top DB in the state (Hewitt). A.J. Penson is another big time Big 12 recruit at DE/LB who will use his speed to his advantage against cove. Cove has not seen a defensive unit this good yet and it can very well be the differencr in the game.
Weakness- At times Lufkin's offensive is very unproductive by making simple mistakes(Holding Penalties). The offensive line was a big question mark early on and are all underclassmen. Though Claybon as emerged as an instant Star he still is young and has made a couple of mistakes in the Playoffs. But is coming off his best performance of the year against SG were he looked unstopable. Lufkin seems to crack under 3rd and long siuations were they just give to much cushion. Lufkin also needs to wrap up more instead of going for the big hit.
QB-Edge-Cove
RB-Edge-Cove
WR-Edge-Lufkin
O-Line-Edge-Cove
DB-Edge-Lufkin
DL-Edge-Lufkin
LB-Edge-Lufkin
That's a pretty good analysis. I wouldn't sell Cove's DB's short just yet. I think they'll match up pretty well.
KLH75287
11-29-2005, 03:31 PM
WOW !!!! This is the game I wanted to see last year. I think a lot of LP faithful were so concerned about a potential match-up with L'View, that they haven't considered the strength of the Dawgs.
This will certainly be the biggest test either team has had, as the 4th round should be. This will be a classic example of Texas HS Playoff football. Not only will Cove have to control the clock to win it (not an EZ task against The Pack), but their D is going to have to make their presence felt on every down to keep LP out of the endzone.
Lots of respect on my end for the Dawgs. I'm glad you made it back after dropping the ball last year. Welcome to the "Late" show, and I hope you enjoy the ride.
Bring your "A" game.:o
GO PACK IN '05
Big_Maar
11-29-2005, 03:32 PM
That's a pretty good analysis. I wouldn't sell Cove's DB's short just yet. I think they'll match up pretty well.
This is going to be the best team Lufkin has played all year, no disrespect to HH. Lufkin's Defense looked solid against SG and there offense look average with all those penalties, but I am sure Coach Outlaw will have that fixed for "Friday Night Lights"!:D Cove looks like a mirror image of Lufkin and it should be a great game. Good Luck to all and hope for no injuries.
IS IT FRIDAY YET?:eek:
DawgsFanForLife
11-29-2005, 09:17 PM
One thing about Coves D, they have spent a lot of time on the field. Offense can and has scored quickly in previous games and the D has had to play 4 full quarters. I believe they are well conditioned to do this if needed but lets hope the Cove offense can manage good drives and put up big points. This always helps when you on the field a lot on D if your offense is scoring.
Good luck, lets go DAWGS.
DFFL
CoveFan05
11-29-2005, 09:27 PM
One thing Cove is the best in the state is conditioning. We have ex army drill sargeants for coaches
pack98
11-30-2005, 08:30 AM
the army drill people may be fine. but trust me the Lufkin players are very very well in shape we have coaches that dont play when it comes down to conditioning. the pack will be ready for that.
GO PANTHERS
adcwalker
11-30-2005, 09:01 AM
Cove's DB's are pretty good. I think the Lufkin Receivers against the Cove's DB's is going to be a great match up. I don't think either will get the best of the other. It's going to be a game that should be put up on the 5A Texas Football.com greatest games.
LPFAN
11-30-2005, 10:15 AM
One thing Cove is the best in the state is conditioning. We have ex army drill sargeants for coaches
Have you been to ALL the High Schools in Texas to see how their football teams are conditioned? Having been in the US Army I can tell you that the strength and conditioning training that I received from Lufkin in the late 80's was much tougher then anything I ever received in the military from Drill Sergeants. I can tell you that the Lufkin coaches do a much better job now then they did back in the 80's. Your statement does not hold any water. I am sure your team is well conditioned but just because they have some ex drill seargents as coaches does not mean they are the best conditioned team in the state. That comment is just as silly as saying that Jim Bob is a bad @$$ because he is a Marine, or an Army Soldier. The Military does not make everyone a Rambo. There are plenty of softies in the Military just like there are in the civilian world. Not all Drill Sergeants are "fit" and not all know how to get others "fit". But don't get me wrong there are a lot of good Drill Sergeants out there. Anyway, I will see you all at FCS this Friday night. It should be a great game and I am glad that you guys will be bringing the whole town of Copperas Cove. I love it when the other team has as much or more fans as Lufkin brings. It just adds to the excitement.
DawgDave
11-30-2005, 10:36 AM
LP Fan: Guess you didn't go through BCT when I was a drill. Believe me, the drill sergeants were in shape then. We had to take PT tests right along with the trainees.
pack0808
11-30-2005, 10:53 AM
Speaking of the Cove coaches! I heard the Cove head coach on the Lufkin's sport's radio talk last night and he sounds like a very good and humble christian man. I hear he is a great coach and Cove is very disciplined. I am not surprised after hearing him speak. I bet the players give him 110 percent.
I have trust in the Lufkin coaching staff though. I believe Outlaw is one of the best hs coaches in the nation, and his record and state championships prove that. It should be 2 very athletic and well coached teams going at it. I cannot wait. I say Lufkin 31 Cove 21. I bet the game will be decided in the 4th quarter but i hope not. I am hoping Lufkin can put them away early but i seriously doubt that is going to happen.
LPFAN
11-30-2005, 11:12 AM
LP Fan: Guess you didn't go through BCT when I was a drill. Believe me, the drill sergeants were in shape then. We had to take PT tests right along with the trainees.
If you read my message thoroughly you would have noticed that I said not ALL Drill Sergeants were fit. I did not say "most were not fit." You are one of MANY but just because you were fit does not mean all were. I know you had to take a PT test and your standards were higher then the average soldier. Most of my Drill Sergeants were in great shape but there was one that was so so. I have seen other's that were not and I wondered why they were even allowed to wear the round hat. I do not mean to make it sound like Basic Training was not tough because it was but to me the strength and conditioning training that I got from Lufkin's baseball and football coaches was much tougher. I have told this to my family and friends over the years and it is just what I experienced. So where were you a DS and how long were you one?
nowsthetime
11-30-2005, 02:44 PM
Speaking of the Cove coaches! I heard the Cove head coach on the Lufkin's sport's radio talk last night and he sounds like a very good and humble christian man. I hear he is a great coach and Cove is very disciplined. I am not surprised after hearing him speak. I bet the players give him 110 percent.
I have trust in the Lufkin coaching staff though. I believe Outlaw is one of the best hs coaches in the nation, and his record and state championships prove that. It should be 2 very athletic and well coached teams going at it. I cannot wait. I say Lufkin 31 Cove 21. I bet the game will be decided in the 4th quarter but i hope not. I am hoping Lufkin can put them away early but i seriously doubt that is going to happen.
Jack is a really fine man and he does get the best out of his guys. I've heard nothing but great stuff about Outlaw too. Your assessment of the game is right on the money. You were right on everything except the score. Cove 28 Lufkin 21. See ya there.
DawgDave
11-30-2005, 02:55 PM
LPFan:
Was a long time ago - Fort Jackson. 1982-1985.
My reply was based on the fact that the drills then were made to stay in shape. I've seen some of the out of shape ones in the past few years, especially ones at AIT stations. We took pride in our conditioning and made sure our trainees got in shape also.
1Maverick1
11-30-2005, 05:31 PM
OK. OK. Enough about conditioning. Lufkin will be surprised two things -
1) Cove's speed. Until they see it in person, they just won't have any idea.
2) Cove's ability to make adjustments both on offense and defense. If Cove is within 7 points or ahead at halftime, it's "Turn out the Lights, the Party's Over" for Lufkin.
pack98
11-30-2005, 05:37 PM
you must not follow the panthers coaches. The pack makes great halftime adjustments.
For that point both teams dont go 13-0 with out making adjustments and things. So both sides are good at making adjustments.
The key to the game
1. mistakes(flags)
Lufkin will not be surprised with cove speed. the coaches are well aware of the cove speed. today on the lufkin radio with JP heath. coach early said it from his mouth that Cove is just like Lufkin they have speed. so the coaches are aware.
GO PANTHERS!!!!!!!!!
PackAttack2005
11-30-2005, 05:50 PM
Maverick,
Do you think Lufkin doesn't have speed? The slowest guy on defense runs a 4.7 and that includes D-lineman. I will not even mention our skilled positions on offense. If Cove is also fast, that will be a wash.
As far as coaching adjustments, I just don't know, how is it that Lufkin has made it to the state semi-finals 3 of the past 4 years without having coaches that can make outstanding adjustments during a game.
Let's talk about more speed and better defense from Lufkin.
1Maverick1
11-30-2005, 05:56 PM
Being aware is one thing. Actually having that speed used against you will be quite another.
I do agree it will come down to flags and turnovers. Whichever team can play without either will win.
Lufkin - do not be surprised if you lose. There is an intangible that Cove has. They are extremely mature and will continue to pound away until they get ahead. With the rash of penalties Lufkin has had, do they really have what it takes to play catch up against a really good team??? Penalties are a sign of a lack discipline. A lack of discipline could/will spell disaster on Friday for the PurpleNation.
PackAttack2005
11-30-2005, 05:57 PM
Boy, are you misinformed.
LPFAN
11-30-2005, 06:19 PM
Being aware is one thing. Actually having that speed used against you will be quite another.
I do agree it will come down to flags and turnovers. Whichever team can play without either will win.
Lufkin - do not be surprised if you lose. There is an intangible that Cove has. They are extremely mature and will continue to pound away until they get ahead. With the rash of penalties Lufkin has had, do they really have what it takes to play catch up against a really good team??? Penalties are a sign of a lack discipline. A lack of discipline could/will spell disaster on Friday for the PurpleNation.
Another T82!!!:rolleyes: Maybe not as bad as some but still a T82!!!:eek:
EasTex9
11-30-2005, 06:33 PM
Lack of discipline, more mature, etc., etc....talking about intangibles. How can you possibly support that?:cool: Lufkin has more penalties??...really you draw from one game? That's OK just keep thinking that, go ahead and keep convincing yourself that LP is inferior...hahahaha....
I always thought it was lack of points:D
Let's line'em up and let'em play Friday night and the kids will determine the outcome...but my money goes on Lukin by 14.:eek:
LPFAN
11-30-2005, 06:34 PM
OK. OK. Enough about conditioning. Lufkin will be surprised two things -
1) Cove's speed. Until they see it in person, they just won't have any idea.
2) Cove's ability to make adjustments both on offense and defense. If Cove is within 7 points or ahead at halftime, it's "Turn out the Lights, the Party's Over" for Lufkin.
It is obvious you are a bandwagon fan and not a player. I just saw a news clip of one of Cove's players making a comment about Lufkin's speed at every position and that your defenders were going to have to step it up to keep us from making a big play. We Lufkin fans know that Cove will bring some speed but PLEASE don't try and act like Lufkin has never seen it before. They see it every day when they practice against each other and have seen it from other teams we have played in the past. We have respect for every opponent we face but you make it to the fourth round for the first time and you think your team is the Greatest on Earth. Please just enjoy the ride. If your team wins then they must deserve it. If so you will hear no excuses from me. If my team wins can I expect the same from you? Both teams are good and are in the fourth round for a reason. It should be a great game and a great atmosphere. I will see you Dawg fans on Friday night.
1Maverick1
11-30-2005, 08:26 PM
OMG!!!! Such venom.
Please notice I posted my prediction before the site put out its predictions.
Amazing. They made the same points. This is not a favorable matchup for Lufkin.
Primetime536
11-30-2005, 08:40 PM
Iv been reading alot about cove, Im changing my prediction 24-21 COVE
PackAttack2005
11-30-2005, 08:41 PM
This is the same stuff we always deal with, because no matter how successful we have been the past several years, everyone thinks we don't have coaching, disipline, enough speed, talent or leadership. Yet, we have a better winning record over that same period than 99% of the teams we play. We are 63-6 the past 5 years and 27 -1 the past two, I just don't know how we do it here in Lufkin. I just guess we have just succeeded off of luck for the past several years.
Primetime536
11-30-2005, 08:43 PM
Talk about doing a 360, when the playoffs began, they had Lufkin the favorite in Region II.
What happen?
Does a the laying of hands on a team by the 5A Texas Football gurus guarantee a win?
I don't think so.
I know, it's the dicipline thing. Dang it.;)
What the hell are you talking about? I say Cove wins because there great coaching, execution, dicipline, and SR.Leadership
ktchamp97
11-30-2005, 08:48 PM
Talk about doing a 360, when the playoffs began, they had Lufkin the favorite in Region II.
What happen?
Does a the laying of hands on a team by the 5A Texas Football gurus guarantee a win?
I don't think so.
I know, it's the dicipline thing. Dang it.;)
A 360 would mean we're still picking Lufkin ;).
Laying of the hands?...C'mon now, we're just a few dudes who have a website...our prediction won't mean jack on Friday night and we are well aware of that, my friend.
Really, it has to do with how the playoffs have gone since we picked Lufkin as the favorite. The fact is, Cove and Lufkin were in the same class all year, but Cove has really turned it on in the playoffs and Lufkin, although winning, has had more trouble than expected. Plus, the matchups are slightly in Cove's favor in our warped feeble minds. I did say it would be close and if Lufkin wins I won't be surprised at all...after all, you have an awesome team.
poolangel
11-30-2005, 10:03 PM
Hey Lufkin fans. I don't know if any of you remember, but I was on your site a couple of months ago talking about this possible matchup. I'm just glad it's happening. Reason being is if the Dawgs beat you, we will get some respect. I don't think we have that just yet. The Panthers will be a great victory for the Dawgs. You guys are a perrenial power house. Just like the Pittsburgh Steelers, the Baltimore Colts, the Fortyniners, etc. were. And if we were to lose, oh well, another lesson for us. We will have to wait and see. I do however pick the Dawgs to win one way or another. Go Might Dawgs
KLH75287
11-30-2005, 11:39 PM
I remember last year in rd. 4, another Cen-Tex team (Cedar Park) was supposed to beat us with their suprizing speed and awesome D. I'm not knocking Cove. I have tremendous respect for them. I mentioned earlier that I've wanted to see this game for two years.
However, for some Cove fans to come on here and even think that LP hasn't seen, played, and beaten fast teams with great D, is absurd.
LP is not a great team, but plays great team ball. They have multiple playmakers, and an AWESOME coaching staff and crowd support. This overwhelming birage of experts predicting an easy Cove win is getting a little insulting.
BEST OF LUCK TO ALL...
GO PACK IN '05
GET YOUR RESPECT !!!
pack0808
12-01-2005, 10:49 AM
I remember last year in rd. 4, another Cen-Tex team (Cedar Park) was supposed to beat us with their suprizing speed and awesome D. I'm not knocking Cove. I have tremendous respect for them. I mentioned earlier that I've wanted to see this game for two years.
However, for some Cove fans to come on here and even think that LP hasn't seen, played, and beaten fast teams with great D, is absurd.
LP is not a great team, but plays great team ball. They have multiple playmakers, and an AWESOME coaching staff and crowd support. This overwhelming birage of experts predicting an easy Cove win is getting a little insulting.
BEST OF LUCK TO ALL...
GO PACK IN '05
GET YOUR RESPECT !!!
LP is not a great team?? :confused: What exactly qualifies as a great team in your book? They have won 96 percent of their games in the last 5 years and 100 percent this year? You say it is because they play great team ball not because they have a great team? What I am confused?? Oh well!
LPanther
12-01-2005, 10:53 AM
LP is not a great team, but plays great team ball.
LP is "only" 27-1 over the last two years, with a 7 point loss to SLC Carroll keeping them from being undefeated. They are trying very hard to get better though. :D
pack0808
12-01-2005, 10:57 AM
A 360 would mean we're still picking Lufkin ;).
Laying of the hands?...C'mon now, we're just a few dudes who have a website...our prediction won't mean jack on Friday night and we are well aware of that, my friend.
Really, it has to do with how the playoffs have gone since we picked Lufkin as the favorite. The fact is, Cove and Lufkin were in the same class all year, but Cove has really turned it on in the playoffs and Lufkin, although winning, has had more trouble than expected. Plus, the matchups are slightly in Cove's favor in our warped feeble minds. I did say it would be close and if Lufkin wins I won't be surprised at all...after all, you have an awesome team.
I like when yall pick against Lufkin! ;) Yall do not pick against Lufkin often but when yall do you have been wrong almost every time. Hey, who did you pick when Lufkin played SLC in 2002 and 2004. I am 99 percent sure you picked Lufkin both times? I am liking our chances better and better this week. j/k I am just giving yall a hard time. Without a doubt this site is the best on making picks and rankings but yall sure do struggle with Lufkin at times. :D
ktchamp97
12-01-2005, 11:09 AM
yall sure do struggle with Lufkin at times. :D
Y'all need to get your crap together :p .
1Maverick1
12-01-2005, 12:24 PM
It (your crap) will be scattered all over the field Friday nite. Gather it up and take it with you for the long sorrowful ride home.
Go Dawgs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FootballJunkie
12-01-2005, 12:40 PM
It (your crap) will be scattered all over the field Friday nite. Gather it up and take it with you for the long sorrowful ride home.
Go Dawgs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How do you show up the last week of November talking trash??? T82 perhaps:confused:
Jaws89
12-01-2005, 01:28 PM
It (your crap) will be scattered all over the field Friday nite. Gather it up and take it with you for the long sorrowful ride home.
Go Dawgs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GREAT ONE .. Mav1 ... sounds like something you would hear from a Jr High student before their game ...
Your enthusiasm is great ... just keep those kind of comments inside your head please ...
Statements like these make you look bad / scared / classless ...
1Maverick1
12-01-2005, 01:33 PM
It'll be fun to see LP emails Saturday. You guys just kill me.
PackAttack2005
12-01-2005, 01:38 PM
As the big game gets closer, the pressure is getting to some. Mav1 hasn't been this far before and it shows......he is flying his true colors now!
Lufkin folks have been down this path before, I don't feel any pressure for this game, it is all just good playoff football.
I am changing my prediction from earlier.
Lufkin - 31
Cove - 21
Paxk08, I confess, I am a copy cat.
Go Pack!!!!
PackAttack2005
12-01-2005, 01:42 PM
Mav1, actually it is the other way around, I will be anxious to see if any of the Cove people will even come back to the site Saturday.
Go Pack!!!!
1Maverick1
12-01-2005, 02:05 PM
To anyone I may have truly offended - I apologize.
When I play anything, I play with intensity and emotion. Football, baseball, tiddly-winks - I play to win. I may have become a little too exuburant about Friday's game.
It will be a great test for both teams. It's more than coincidence that all four teams playing in Region I and II are undefeated. It just shows the strength of the northern half of the state. I truly feel the 5A State Champion Division II will be the last team standing from Region I or II.
Sorry to anyone that feels differently, but I think any team of the four can beat the other three IF they play to their potential. For Cove to be in that situation - well, let's just say that given Cove's history previous to 1997, that is huge. Who wouldn't busting at the seams proud of that fact!
I am looking forward to Friday nite with great anticipation. May the best team win!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jaws89
12-01-2005, 02:24 PM
To anyone I may have truly offended - I apologize.
When I play anything, I play with intensity and emotion. Football, baseball, tiddly-winks - I play to win. I may have become a little too exuburant about Friday's game.
It will be a great test for both teams. It's more than coincidence that all four teams playing in Region I and II are undefeated. It just shows the strength of the northern half of the state. I truly feel the 5A State Champion Division II will be the last team standing from Region I or II.
Sorry to anyone that feels differently, but I think any team of the four can beat the other three IF they play to their potential. For Cove to be in that situation - well, let's just say that given Cove's history previous to 1997, that is huge. Who wouldn't busting at the seams proud of that fact!
I am looking forward to Friday nite with great anticipation. May the best team win!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now see ... this is a great post ... nicely put ... and good luck to you ... have a safe trip to and from Waco ...
Ailani
12-01-2005, 04:03 PM
:) [QUOTE=1Maverick1]To anyone I may have truly offended - I apologize.
When I play anything, I play with intensity and emotion. Football, baseball, tiddly-winks - I play to win. I may have become a little too exuburant about Friday's game.
It will be a great test for both teams. It's more than coincidence that all four teams playing in Region I and II are undefeated. It just shows the strength of the northern half of the state. I truly feel the 5A State Champion Division II will be the last team standing from Region I or II.
Sorry to anyone that feels differently, but I think any team of the four can beat the other three IF they play to their potential. For Cove to be in that situation - well, let's just say that given Cove's history previous to 1997, that is huge. Who wouldn't busting at the seams proud of that fact!
Couldn't agree with you more. Takes class to post what you just did. And we should be extremely excited about being in this position. But like my coach told me in junior high, when you score a touchdown, act like it isn't your first time in the end zone and you expect to be back often. It may be our first time here, but it won't be our last. See you at the pep rally. Can't wait for tomorrow night to come around.
Get em Dawgs.
PrimeTime1
12-01-2005, 04:23 PM
COVE is garbage
the dogs have no chance in my opinion. they are just plain crap! i would put money that a 2a team would beat them. Buckram is a skinny peice of junk and garner is BUTT! also their recievers couldnt catch a ball with stickem on their hands. bottom line lufkin is just to tough for those puppies!
LPanther
12-01-2005, 04:28 PM
COVE is garbage
the dogs have no chance in my opinion. they are just plain crap! i would put money that a 2a team would beat them. Buckram is a skinny peice of junk and garner is BUTT! also their recievers couldnt catch a ball with stickem on their hands. bottom line lufkin is just to tough for those puppies!
An obvious imposter. Nice try.............well not really even a nice try.
PackAttack2005
12-01-2005, 04:36 PM
Come on PrimeTime, this is way too late in the game to act like that, if you are from Lufkin(???????). If not, get out of here.
No need to disgrace our fellow Cove posters. Everything will unfold, tomorrow night.
Got a chance to watch the Panthers practice this week, coach said this was their best week of practice all year. The guys have been hearing all the talk from the Cove side this week, they are a confident bunch and have fire in their eyes, they are ready to play.
Go Pack !!!!!
Lufkin - 31 -Cove - 21
LPFAN
12-01-2005, 04:48 PM
COVE is garbage
the dogs have no chance in my opinion. they are just plain crap! i would put money that a 2a team would beat them. Buckram is a skinny peice of junk and garner is BUTT! also their recievers couldnt catch a ball with stickem on their hands. bottom line lufkin is just to tough for those puppies!
Congratulations!!! You just made the 2005 T82 Club. You are a definate T82 and if you are from Lufkin that makes you worse then the original T82 in my opinion. Ease up man and just enjoy the game. Cove deserves respect because not many teams make it to the fourth round and this is their first. We were first timers once too not too long ago or did you forget that part. Just let the boys play the game. It should be a great one.
KLH75287
12-01-2005, 06:38 PM
LP is not a great team?? :confused: What exactly qualifies as a great team in your book? They have won 96 percent of their games in the last 5 years and 100 percent this year? You say it is because they play great team ball not because they have a great team? What I am confused?? Oh well!
Relax my LP brother. It's just my opinion. I was refering to this yrs. squad.Not to say that they can't play with anybodt that suits up against them. Their young O and tendency to make silly mistakes at times is keeping them from being a great team. (The roughing the passer call after stopping SG on 3rd & long, thus giving them 1st & goal for example).
I like their chances against anybody on any day. I will never root against them. I've seen tremendous improvement throughout the season, and think have what it takes to move on.
GO PACK IN '05
LufkinPanthers2008
12-01-2005, 06:42 PM
ok first of all i have first hand experience so trust me when i say this.. our defense is not a weakness we didint have a test all season so when we came out against harker height we wasnt expecting to fight that hard but after buda hays our defense got our swagger back and now the purple swarm is alive and ready to fight for that state title
FootballJunkie
12-01-2005, 09:12 PM
ok first of all i have first hand experience so trust me when i say this.. our defense is not a weakness we didint have a test all season so when we came out against harker height we wasnt expecting to fight that hard but after buda hays our defense got our swagger back and now the purple swarm is alive and ready to fight for that state title
No offense but Hays trucked your D for 473 yards and Amadaus Waters had 163 on 19 carries. I hope you have your swagger back!!
Primetime536
12-01-2005, 09:21 PM
damn, I didnt know i was worshiped on this site......nice name primmmeeetimee
LufkinPanthers2008
12-01-2005, 09:23 PM
No offense but Hays trucked your D for 473 yards and Amadaus Waters had 173 on 19 carries. I hope you have your swagger back!!
what game were u watching? amadeus got shut down they were using him more as a BLOCKER he wasnt even running the ball that much and most of their yards came form their other running back and when they did go to the air what happened? INTERCEPTION BY LEONARD HEWITT AND BEFORE THAT ALL THE OTHER PASSES WER BEING DEFLECTED PAY MORE ATTENTION TO GAME AND NOT TO UR STATS
FootballJunkie
12-01-2005, 09:26 PM
what game were u watching? amadeus got shut down they were using him more as a BLOCKER he wasnt even running the ball that much and most of their yards came form their other running back and when they did go to the air what happened? INTERCEPTION BY LEONARD HEWITT AND BEFORE THAT ALL THE OTHER PASSES WER BEING DEFLECTED PAY MORE ATTENTION TO GAME AND NOT TO UR STATS
OK pay attention now this comes from your own LUFKIN NEWSPAPER OK!!!
That helped Lufkin overcome a Hays' offense that was as good as advertised. The Rebels finished the day with 473 total yards with standout running back Amadeus Waters gaining 163 yards on 19 carries.
http://www.lufkindailynews.com/sports/content/sports/highschools/stories/2005/11/19/20051119LDNpanther_game.html
lufkin guy
12-01-2005, 09:26 PM
i'm new to the forum and have enjoyed reading it so far. i see an emphasis on stats here and i think it can be a little misleading. every team probably does this and i don't know about Cove, but i've seen Coach Outlaw take lufkin's starters out as early as the half and play backups the rest of the game. He likes to build a lead and then let his backups get valuable game experience. this has two effects, the backups are better prepared for there starting positions next year, and IT WATERS DOWN THE CURRENT STARTERS STATS. i think the lufkin playmakers are probably better players than their stats would lead you to believe. let's have a good game and good luck to whoever faces SLC.
LufkinPanthers2008
12-01-2005, 09:35 PM
OK pay attention now this comes from your own LUFKIN NEWSPAPER OK!!!
http://www.lufkindailynews.com/sports/content/sports/highschools/stories/2005/11/19/20051119LDNpanther_game.html
ok once again u are mislead if u think amadeus got those 163 yard easily everytime he got the ball there was mandela , roger , a.j , robert , and randall
in his face and the only reason they got those yards was because the defense ran a play called rambo which is an all out blitz the only cover is the corners and they bring safety jamie harris up on blitz when they did that hays realized it and went deep to their tight end so like i said watch the game not the news
FootballJunkie
12-01-2005, 09:40 PM
ok once again u are mislead if u think amadeus got those 163 yard easily everytime he got the ball there was mandela , roger , a.j , robert , and randall
in his face and the only reason they got those yards was because the defense ran a play called rambo which is an all out blitz the only cover is the corners and they bring safety jamie harris up on blitz when they did that hays realized it and went deep to their tight end so like i said watch the game not the news
OK I don't know...that's just what the LUFKIN newspaper said the stats were. Would the LUFKIN newspaper be wrong about that???:confused:
19 carries 163 yards equals 8+ yards a pop...correct??;)
LufkinPanthers2008
12-01-2005, 09:45 PM
OK I don't know...that's just what the LUFKIN newspaper said the stats were. Would the LUFKIN newspaper be wrong about that???:confused:
19 carries 163 yards equals 8+ yards a pop...correct??;)
ever heard of miscalculating? and most of his runs were for losses in my opinion those yards should have went to that other running back cuz he had a much better day that amadeus did his first run was for a loss of 5 yards and it was like that until the 3rd quarter when the we let up we were thinking pass and they were thinking run thats how they were so successful on the ground
LufkinPanthers2008
12-01-2005, 09:47 PM
OK I don't know...that's just what the LUFKIN newspaper said the stats were. Would the LUFKIN newspaper be wrong about that???:confused:
19 carries 163 yards equals 8+ yards a pop...correct??;)
oh and while u checking the lufkin newspaper why dont u check to see what jacorey turner and clifton kibble did to the hays defense yea they did a hell of a job making their defense look like little league players
FootballJunkie
12-01-2005, 09:53 PM
oh and while u checking the lufkin newspaper why dont u check to see what jacorey turner and clifton kibble did to the hays defense yea they did a hell of a job making their defense look like little league players
True can't deny that...Kibble has 120yards on 12 carries and you won guess that is the bottom line right.
Still gave up 400+ yards though...just joking good luck tomorrow but not too much and be safe.
21 hours and 30 min to kickoff!!
pack4life
12-01-2005, 10:09 PM
Is it just me.. or does it feel like Christmas eve?
lufkin guy
12-01-2005, 10:21 PM
i didn't make it to the SG game at SFA last wk, but was at the Hays game in Waco. Dez ran into the band just b4 halftime and seemed hurt. the entire 2nd half, he didn't do much and nursed his arm. did he contribute last wk or is he still shaky?:confused:
PowerPack'd
12-01-2005, 10:23 PM
Hey Lufkin fans. I don't know if any of you remember, but I was on your site a couple of months ago talking about this possible matchup. I'm just glad it's happening. Reason being is if the Dawgs beat you, we will get some respect. I don't think we have that just yet. The Panthers will be a great victory for the Dawgs. You guys are a perrenial power house. Just like the Pittsburgh Steelers, the Baltimore Colts, the Fortyniners, etc. were. And if we were to lose, oh well, another lesson for us. We will have to wait and see. I do however pick the Dawgs to win one way or another. Go Might Dawgs
Thanks for the compliment poolangel.
As far as the respect thing goes...don't count on it. Respect isn't given it is earned. Lufkin is just now getting respect by some. Many still think Lufkin has a thing or two to prove, and maybe we do. We will continue to take it one game at a time in hopes of earning that respect.
Ladypack34
12-01-2005, 10:29 PM
i didn't make it to the SG game at SFA last wk, but was at the Hays game in Waco. Dez ran into the band just b4 halftime and seemed hurt. the entire 2nd half, he didn't do much and nursed his arm. did he contribute last wk or is he still shaky?:confused:
no dez is fine...and he's ready for cove
PowerPack'd
12-01-2005, 10:37 PM
A 360 would mean we're still picking Lufkin ;).
Laying of the hands?...C'mon now, we're just a few dudes who have a website...our prediction won't mean jack on Friday night and we are well aware of that, my friend.
Really, it has to do with how the playoffs have gone since we picked Lufkin as the favorite. The fact is, Cove and Lufkin were in the same class all year, but Cove has really turned it on in the playoffs and Lufkin, although winning, has had more trouble than expected. Plus, the matchups are slightly in Cove's favor in our warped feeble minds. I did say it would be close and if Lufkin wins I won't be surprised at all...after all, you have an awesome team.
Don't take it personally ktchamp97. After all, everyone on this board is passionate about their team. PackAttack2005 is no exception.
I think you (or whoever) gave an accurate analysis of the game. I agree that Cove may have the edge in discipline, but I would have to give Lufkin the edge in playoff experience. If I had an unbiased opinion (and obviously I don't) I would call it a toss up (which you basically have by saying you wouldn't be suprised if Lufkin won). My gut feeling is that since these teams are so evenly matched that it will come down to whoever wins the turnover battle.
Keep up the good work ktchamp97 and the other admins.
Primetime536
12-01-2005, 10:37 PM
Less then 24 hours from kickoff, damn boys, its gunna be a great game.
Match up to keep an eye on will be tim achinson on dez byant
the killeen paper says the game will have around 30,000 fans, its gunna go down tomarow night
LufkinPanthers2008
12-01-2005, 10:39 PM
Less then 24 hours from kickoff, damn boys, its gunna be a great game.
Match up to keep an eye on will be tim achinson on dez byant
the killeen paper says the game will have around 30,000 fans, its gunna go down tomarow night
that matchup : winner dez bryant reason: dez has more hops and he's more explosive off the line and hard to jam
poolangel
12-01-2005, 10:41 PM
Thanks for the compliment poolangel.
As far as the respect thing goes...don't count on it. Respect isn't given it is earned. Lufkin is just now getting respect by some. Many still think Lufkin has a thing or two to prove, and maybe we do. We will continue to take it one game at a time in hopes of earning that respect.
I disagree Powepack'd, there is a lot of talk around the State referencing Lufkin when talking great programs. Many programs respect you and probably fear playing you. That's what I like about the Dawgs and this community. We want to play the best! What good does it do to go one or two deep and collect a couple more trophies to collect dust? We have to win or learn how to win in order to go all the way. We won't learn how to do that sitting at home. This is the attitude your Panther's will face and I'm sure you can appreciate it. Right? Good luck. Go Mighty Dawgs
LufkinPanthers2008
12-01-2005, 10:43 PM
another factor in this game will be receiver #9 thaddeus gordon when he's on the field he's the second fastest behind e.j shankle he's super explosive off the line gethis arm over defensive backs eliminating their chance to swat the balll in my opinion if they can put the ball in thad's hands we could run away with this one
c-town_scout
12-01-2005, 10:45 PM
COVE is garbage
the dogs have no chance in my opinion. they are just plain crap! i would put money that a 2a team would beat them. Buckram is a skinny peice of junk and garner is BUTT! also their recievers couldnt catch a ball with stickem on their hands. bottom line lufkin is just to tough for those puppies!
show some respect...these kids are only in highschool...but still they are really good at what they do...they wouldnt be here if they werent good!! so u can just stay home and watch your little pee wee games when everyone had no clue what they were doin and all they were tryin to do was have fun! And get real...2a?? SURE!!
PowerPack'd
12-01-2005, 10:48 PM
I disagree Powepack'd, there is a lot of talk around the State referencing Lufkin when talking great programs. Many programs respect you and probably fear playing you. That's what I like about the Dawgs and this community. We want to play the best! What good does it do to go one or two deep and collect a couple more trophies to collect dust? We have to win or learn how to win in order to go all the way. We won't learn how to do that sitting at home. This is the attitude your Panther's will face and I'm sure you can appreciate it. Right? Good luck. Go Mighty Dawgs
I absolutely appreciate that attitude. That is what is going to make tomorrow night's game a barn burner! Good luck to both teams and everyone drive safe and sober.
LufkinPanthers2008
12-01-2005, 10:48 PM
well another thing u really cant watch a certain matchup in this game all of our receivers are capable of making plays e.j can hit u with the reverse and ralph can sneak down the field and have the ball before the defense realizes it dez will make u look like an inexperienced defensive back thad will blow u off the line so quick u wont know where he went and marcus get under the cb as well to make catches as well
Primetime536
12-01-2005, 10:50 PM
that matchup : winner dez bryant reason: dez has more hops and he's more explosive off the line and hard to jam
tim achinson, is faster, and alsmost has enough hopps, it an even match up
the winner of this match up will have a huge impact on the game,
LufkinPanthers2008
12-01-2005, 10:53 PM
u just now figured that out? almost every db that holds dez is faster than him dez runs like a 4.60 or a 4.59 in the 40 but he always comes up with the catch
PowerPack'd
12-01-2005, 10:53 PM
COVE is garbage
the dogs have no chance in my opinion. they are just plain crap! i would put money that a 2a team would beat them. Buckram is a skinny peice of junk and garner is BUTT! also their recievers couldnt catch a ball with stickem on their hands. bottom line lufkin is just to tough for those puppies!
And I suppose the Indianapolis Colts are crap too? Any team that is undefeated this far into the season oviously has something going for them. It is unintelligent posts like yours that make Lufkin look bad. Thankfully there are enough intelligent Lufkin fans to make up for it.
LufkinPanthers2008
12-01-2005, 10:58 PM
And I suppose the Indianapolis Colts are crap too? Any team that is undefeated this far into the season oviously has something going for them. It is unintelligent posts like yours that make Lufkin look bad. Thankfully there are enough intelligent Lufkin fans to make up for it.
i know JV players dont get any spotlight but we had a good season hopefully next year i'll be playing varsity :)
PowerPack'd
12-01-2005, 10:59 PM
i know JV players dont get any spotlight but we had a good season hopefully next year i'll be playing varsity :)
And I will be there cheering for you. Good luck.
Primetime536
12-01-2005, 11:00 PM
i know JV players dont get any spotlight but we had a good season hopefully next year i'll be playing varsity :)
thats JV, thats like saying the colts practice squad doesnt get publicity. I mean shouldnt they, they must be doing their job helping the team get ready.
PowerPack'd
12-01-2005, 11:06 PM
thats JV, thats like saying the colts practice squad doesnt get publicity. I mean shouldnt they, they must be doing their job helping the team get ready.
I know quite a few people that go to the JV games to see what we have coming up in the next few years. I personally don't because I have two little girls at home that need my attention. If I had more time I would definitely be there.
LufkinPanthers2008
12-01-2005, 11:08 PM
if u ask me the game is gonna come down to special teams execution jaime missed two field goals in the SG game his thigh muscle is tightening up hopefully that wont be a factor in this game but if it comes down to how well special teams executes jaime has got to step it up
PantherRock1988
12-02-2005, 12:37 AM
The Cove coach was on the Lufkin TV station tonight expressing concern about Lufkin's defense causing problems for the Cove offense. He also added that Lufkin was fast on offense and that Lufkin was definately a team to be worried about. Why would he say that? Is Lufkin that big of a threat to the Hoot-Owls?
FootballJunkie
12-02-2005, 07:52 AM
11 hours and 36 min to go!!!!:D
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