The Zou

[lonny23]

I'm going to give my public service announcement on the BCS.

1. Texas almost assuredly won't win the Big 12. If OU beats OSU, they play Mizzou. If OU loses to OSU, you can pretty well guarantee that Tech plays Mizzou.

2. Texas won't stay in front of OU in the BCS if they beat OSU.

3. Texas stands a decent chance of being passed by Florida if they win out.

4. There is some chance that the Gators lose at Free Shoes or in the SEC Title Game.

5. I don't think Texas stays in front of a 12-1 Tech team (Provided they beat Baylor and Mizzou) and here's why:

Tech will probably pound Baylor and move to 6th in the BCS. They are already a strong 4th in the computers.

An OSU win over OU would put Tech 5th in the BCS.

A Tech win over Mizzou would push them past USC for 4th.

Whoever loses the SEC Title Game drops and pushes Tech to 3rd.

At this point, the voters will have to choose between a 12-1 Tech team who won the Big 12 or the 11-1 Texas team they beat and my guess is the voters pick Tech.

6. The single best thing that is somewhat likely to happen to help Texas is for Mizzou to win the Big 12. Otherwise, I think Texas doesn't play for a title.

[Slim-Rob]

Umm. There is no chance in HELL that tech plays in the NC this season. Sorry but you don't get killed this late into the season and still have a chance.

[lonny23]

Umm. There is no chance in HELL that tech plays in the NC this season. Sorry but you don't get killed this late into the season and still have a chance.
There is plenty chance.

1. Tech can pass Utah because they might have 2 games left and Utah has zero.
2. Tech will pass USC if they beat Mizzou because the Trojans don't have much left to impress with.
3. If Tech beats Mizzou, that means OU lost.
4. Somebody from the SEC in front of Tech will lose.
5. Texas fans really don't want to have to compete for votes with Tech!:D They almost have to take Tech by default and don't forget you're talking about 12-1 vs. 11-1 and both teams would have similar resumes.

[Slim-Rob]

There is plenty chance.

1. Tech can pass Utah because they might have 2 games left and Utah has zero.
2. Tech will pass USC if they beat Mizzou because the Trojans don't have much left to impress with.
3. If Tech beats Mizzou, that means OU lost.
4. Somebody from the SEC in front of Tech will lose.
5. Texas fans really don't want to have to compete for votes with Tech!:D They almost have to take Tech by default and don't forget you're talking about 12-1 vs. 11-1 and both teams would have similar resumes.

Nobody who got beat 65-21 in the last few games of the season will be playing for a NC. NO CHANCE. Sorry bro. Plus you gotta count on OU losing to OSU.

If Tech plays for the Big 12 Championship Texas will probably play the NC before they would

[pied]

I agree w/Lonny w/much if this.

If I were a voter, ou loses, Tech wins the Big 12 over Misouri in KC, You would have:

1. AL or FL
2. Texas
3. USC, likely not the PAC 10 champ
4. Utah/Tech

I would expect many to jump Tech over Texas in that scenario, and would not have a problem with it as a sip.

I would reiterate there is a lot of football left to be played. Almost every year there is a favorite that loses this weekend, and many times more than one.

[Favpack]

Obviously what you say could happen Lonny - but I don't see it. I think you'll see OU against Flor/'Bama for the crystal ball and Texas will be the second team selected.

I just think that loss was too devastating. Now, if OU loses, things get really dicey and interesting - and my fear is the b12 at that point starts getting screwed over heavily.

But - bottom line - I don't see much more upward movement for Tech unless you have a major upset - this next week. Once the SEC and B12 title matches are set - I think things fall into place. Mizzou ain't winning - and the Fla/Bama winner is a lock - IF both win this week.

[lonny23]

Obviously what you say could happen Lonny - but I don't see it. I think you'll see OU against Flor/'Bama for the crystal ball and Texas will be the second team selected.

I just think that loss was too devastating. Now, if OU loses, things get really dicey and interesting - and my fear is the b12 at that point starts getting screwed over heavily.

But - bottom line - I don't see much more upward movement for Tech unless you have a major upset - this next week. Once the SEC and B12 title matches are set - I think things fall into place. Mizzou ain't winning - and the Fla/Bama winner is a lock - IF both win this week.I think a 12-1 OU team should play for a title if they win the next 2 weeks. I just don't think they'll do it. Besides what I'm rooting for, I'm not going to take the Sooners in a road game when they haven't played a decent team on the road all year. Kansas is no OU, but at least they're a decent team Tech played on the road before the Sooners, not to mention Tech had to get out of Reno alive in a game that they played subpar in.

I haven't read it yet, but evidently Jerry Palm says Tech or OU will play for the title, but that's contingent on Mizzou losing a de facto home game in KC, which won't be easy.

As far as who goes to the BCS between Texas and Texas Tech, I think it somewhat depends on where the bowl is and how the teams play this week will determine it somewhat. A strong Tech win will take some of the tarnish off and they'll still be an 11-1 team.

[Aggies2009]

Nobody who got beat 65-21 in the last few games of the season will be playing for a NC. NO CHANCE. Sorry bro. Plus you gotta count on OU losing to OSU.

If Tech plays for the Big 12 Championship Texas will probably play the NC before they would

That's funny. You're b****ing and crying because you have a head-to-head over OU, but the head-to-head argument goes out the window when we're talking about Tech...

[pied]

That's funny. You're b****ing and crying because you have a head-to-head over OU, but the head-to-head argument goes out the window when we're talking about Tech...

Not that I am making this arguement, but rank the losses:

1. Neutral site by 10
2. On the road by 6
3. On the road by 44

[Aggies2009]

So the margin of victory FOR OU doesn't count, but only head-to-head does.

But for Tech, only margin of loss counts and head-to-head doesn't...

I see.

[lonny23]

Not that I am making this arguement, but rank the losses:

1. Neutral site by 10
2. On the road by 6
3. On the road by 44
If I'm ranking the losses from best to worst:

1. Tech 39 UT 33- Ref hijinks and getting outplayed by a fair margin aside, the scoreboard says UT lost by 6 in Lubbock.

2. UT 45 OU 35- Neutral site losses mean the other team was and probably is better. The only thing that doesn't make this look a lot worse is....

3. OU 65 Tech 21- It took Tech losing by 44 to keep OU from having the worst loss. A close game would have OU at the back of the loss line.

I have to put out this disclaimer, though. I know those 3 games will go a long ways with voters, but I don't think it should be that way. You really don't have a lot to go on ranking teams from different conferences. I feel like 3 teams from the same division should have a comprehensive view of their schedule. I don't buy this "What happened last week?" and amnesia mindset that voters have.

Besides playing each other, all 3 teams also played Baylor, OSU, A&M, and Kansas. Tech and OU both played Nebraska and K-State. I know it won't matter for getting to the Big 12 title game, but voters should also look at UT-Mizzou vs. OU/Tech-Mizzou.

This stuff changes by the week and here's how I'd rank the teams from the South right now:

1. OU 10-1
2. UT 10-1
3. Tech 10-1
4. OSU 9-2

If UT, Tech, and OSU win this week:

1. UT 11-1
2. Tech 11-1
3. OSU 10-2
4. OU 10-2

If Tech wins the Big 12:

1. Tech 12-1 (BCS Title)
2. UT 11-1 (BCS)
3. OSU 10-2 (Cotton)
4. OU 10-2 (Holiday)

The Gator can jump in and get a team and might do so or could even take Mizzou at 10-3.

I disagree with anybody that says a loss doesn't matter. I don't care if it's 1 point or 44. I penalize more for losses against bad teams than losses against good teams (I do have to penalize for how bad you lose, though!). The 5 best Big 12 teams all have losses against Top 13 teams and that's good. If we had a 12 team playoff, I'd say all 5 should get in.

[lonny23]

So the margin of victory FOR OU doesn't count, but only head-to-head does.

But for Tech, only margin of loss counts and head-to-head doesn't...

I see.That's pretty much what they've been spinning out of Austin for almost a month now.

[HUM398]

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!


Lonny...stop...just Stop!

[HUM398]

So the margin of victory FOR OU doesn't count, but only head-to-head does.

But for Tech, only margin of loss counts and head-to-head doesn't...

I see.

The BCS doesn't account for margin of victory...but the Human voters do.

[HUM398]

That's pretty much what they've been spinning out of Austin for almost a month now.

:rolleyes:

does you *** hurt lonny...i bet it does after watching that game saturday.


I don't think you understand the difference between a *** whopping and a close game.. BCS doesn't care that you got slaughtered, the Human voters do....


a 6pt loss to Tech was bad for Texas...but imagine if we had lost by 44pts...our head to head with OU would be irrelevant..any team that gets beat by 44pts doesn't deserve a National Title..

[ThEgReAtOnE]

I think a 12-1 OU team should play for a title if they win the next 2 weeks. I just don't think they'll do it. Besides what I'm rooting for, I'm not going to take the Sooners in a road game when they haven't played a decent team on the road all year. Kansas is no OU, but at least they're a decent team Tech played on the road before the Sooners, not to mention Tech had to get out of Reno alive in a game that they played subpar in.

I haven't read it yet, but evidently Jerry Palm says Tech or OU will play for the title, but that's contingent on Mizzou losing a de facto home game in KC, which won't be easy.

As far as who goes to the BCS between Texas and Texas Tech, I think it somewhat depends on where the bowl is and how the teams play this week will determine it somewhat. A strong Tech win will take some of the tarnish off and they'll still be an 11-1 team.

This coming from the same guy who said this:

There is a better chance Tech wins by 28 than losing by 28. - in regards to the Tech/OU game

and this..

Tech is better in the trenches. Tech's OL will neutralize the OU D and control the clock and ball. The OU O-line will get some passing yards, but won't do that great in the running game.

and this...

OU is used to punching teams in the mouth and getting Mike Tyson 1st Round Knockouts. They're not conditioned to play 60 hard minutes and it will show in this game.

and this...

OU might get the lead early, but they'll fade in the 2nd half.

and this...

We already know Stoops is scared..

and this...

What I do expect is Tech to beat OU down on the line of scrimmage on offense and defense. The color of the helmets and jerseys don't matter. What matters is which team is meaner and beats the other team up and I fully believe Tech has a nastier mean streak.

and finally this...

I just don't think they're good enough to beat Tech. I'd be lying if I didn't tell you I think OU is a little soft. I don't think they have the fight in them to win this game. I think of the Sooners as a Texas-caliber talent team with less heart.

1. Is OU still soft, Lonny?
2. Is OU 60-minute-conditioned to your standards, now, Lonny?
3. Is Robert still scared?

Like I've said, saying OU will lose (over and over and over) doesn't exactly force Lady Karma to take action in deciding that OU will in fact lose. We got your point. Tech is your team and anything that stands in their way of seeing a big Bowl game has a date with some eerie destiny-hike! That's why we get these stat-inclined threads. That's why we get these charms of Lonny's knowledge.

To the point of this thread... all I (as an OU fan) am worried about is OSU! This is a huge rivalry and will be extremely tough. Zou and the BCS NC game are at the back of my mind. Goodluck vs Baylor. I still think Tech will destroy whoever they play in a Bowl game, just as Texas will do the same vs their opponent.

[CKE]

good ol laughing stock loony.Up to his old useless stat filling and bad prediction making threads again.

[Slim-Rob]

That's funny. You're b****ing and crying because you have a head-to-head over OU, but the head-to-head argument goes out the window when we're talking about Tech...

I'm not *****ing about anything you ******* aggie. Head to head doesn't matter when you get demolished by someone else.

Tech beat UT, they were better at that point in the season. Texas beat OU, they were better at that point in the season. OU is playing the best RIGHT NOW. And if OU loses, everyone will drop down. There is no way Tech can jump back ahead of UT based on OU losing because OU creamed Tech. And even IF Tech plays in the big 12 championship, they will NOT play for the NC

[pied]

This coming from the same guy who said this:



and this..



Well played TGO.

[The King]

I think this is all just another season that points to the need for a playoff bracket. ~16 teams would work well.

[pied]

I think this is all just another season that points to the need for a playoff bracket. ~16 teams would work well.

hmmmmmmm


awww nevermind.

[Mhs06]

OU was no doubt the better team on Saturday. However, I know Tech (and particularly the offensive and defensive lines) could play a lot better. If we played again, I think it would be much closer. I'm not saying the loss is an excusable one, but OU played out of their freakin minds on Saturday.

[ThEgReAtOnE]

OU was no doubt the better team on Saturday. However, I know Tech (and particularly the offensive and defensive lines) could play a lot better. If we played again, I think it would be much closer. I'm not saying the loss is an excusable one, but OU played out of their freakin minds on Saturday.

To be honest, OU really did nothing different than what they've been doing. And all of that considering they were without DE's Davis, English and LB-Reynolds. Plus, a few O-linemen were playing with nagging injuries. If they played again, it'd probably be closer. Tech is a damn good team... I mean they have a November win over Tejas. Tech will destroy someone in a Bowl game.

[GoOwls]

That's funny. You're b****ing and crying because you have a head-to-head over OU, but the head-to-head argument goes out the window when we're talking about Tech...

Would you not agree that there is quite a difference in losing a game late in the season 65-21, and losing your only game because a freshman DB dropped a gimme interception that led to the winning TD?

......and the team that had the dropped pick, beat the team by 10 points that throttled the team that benefited from the dropped pick......

Please, boys, get real here.....OU loses and Texas and Tech win out, no matter who plays in the championship game, Texas will be the NC nod over Tech.

[Mhs06]

Would you not agree that there is quite a difference in losing a game late in the season 65-21, and losing your only game because a freshman DB dropped a gimme interception that led to the winning TD?

......and the team that had the dropped pick, beat the team by 10 points that throttled the team that benefited from the dropped pick......

Please, boys, get real here.....OU loses and Texas and Tech win out, no matter who plays in the championship game, Texas will be the NC nod over Tech.

To be fair, Tech should have had 2 more touchdowns on the board. Texas probably should have had some more too. Texas had a dropped interception. Blah blah blah. Woulda Shoulda Coulda.

[Aggies2009]

Would you not agree that there is quite a difference in losing a game late in the season 65-21, and losing your only game because a freshman DB dropped a gimme interception that led to the winning TD?

......and the team that had the dropped pick, beat the team by 10 points that throttled the team that benefited from the dropped pick......

Please, boys, get real here.....OU loses and Texas and Tech win out, no matter who plays in the championship game, Texas will be the NC nod over Tech.

Yes, I agree. Then again, we have to give OU a lot of credit because they DID beat a team by 44 that beat Texas. The way OU played, it didn't matter where the game was played, OU would have won. And the dropped pick thing means nothing. We can always play what if. I just think OU has been the most impressive this year, and the throttling they put on Tech this past weekend shows it.

[lonny23]

Would you not agree that there is quite a difference in losing a game late in the season 65-21, and losing your only game because a freshman DB dropped a gimme interception that led to the winning TD?

......and the team that had the dropped pick, beat the team by 10 points that throttled the team that benefited from the dropped pick......

Please, boys, get real here.....OU loses and Texas and Tech win out, no matter who plays in the championship game, Texas will be the NC nod over Tech.I'm being 100% real. Here were the standings exactly a year ago and look who won. What I'm saying can happen because it happened last year. The #7 BCS team won the SEC and beat #14 for the title and got a major boost in the polls. Don't think for a minute that #7 can't win the Big 12 this year and get a huge boost this year.

1. Missouri (11-1) .9781 Lost to OU for the Big 12
2. West Virginia (10-1) .9713 Lost to Pitt
3. Ohio State (11-1) .9192 Moved to #1
4. Georgia (10-2) .8274 Got jumped by LSU
5. Kansas (11-1) .7918 Lost to Mizzou
6. Virginia Tech (10-2) .7811 Got jumped by LSU and won ACC
7. LSU (10-2) .7744 Played for a title and won
8. USC (9-2) .6926
9. Oklahoma (10-2) .6829
10. Florida (9-3) .6184
11. Boston College (10-2) .6169
12. Hawaii (11-0) .5835
13. Arizona State (9-2) .5571
14. Tennessee (9-3) .4614
15. Illinois (9-3) .4198
16. Clemson (9-3) .3358
17. Oregon (8-3) .2706
18. Wisconsin (9-3) .2628
19. BYU (9-2) .2252
20. Texas (9-3) .2216
21. South Florida (9-3) .1880
22. Virginia (9-3) .1795
23. Cincinnati (9-3) .1490
24. Auburn (8-4) .1472
25. Boise State (10-2) .1125

This year isn't a stretch if you look at the numbers:

1 Alabama 11-0 .987
2 Texas 10-1 .921
3 Oklahoma 10-1 .912
4 Florida 10-1 .875
5 USC 9-1 .797
6 Utah 12-0 .786
7 Texas Tech 10-1 .779
8 Penn State 11-1 .752
9 Boise State 11-0 .658
10 Ohio State 10-2 .621
11 Georgia 9-2 .602
12 Oklahoma State 9-2 .570
13 Missouri 9-2 .559
14 TCU 10-2 .470
15 Ball State 11-0 .438
16 Cincinnati 9-2 .397
17 Oregon State 8-3 .313
18 Brigham Young 10-2 .263
19 Michigan State 9-3 .212
20 Florida State 8-3 .188
21 Boston College 8-3 .186
22 Georgia Tech 8-3 .181
23 Oregon 8-3 .155
24 Northwestern 9-3 .113
25 Pittsburgh 7-3 .041

[GoOwls]

I'm being 100% real. Here were the standings exactly a year ago and look who won. What I'm saying can happen because it happened last year. The #7 BCS team won the SEC and beat #14 for the title and got a major boost in the polls. Don't think for a minute that #7 can't win the Big 12 this year and get a huge boost this year.

1. Missouri (11-1) .9781 Lost to OU for the Big 12
2. West Virginia (10-1) .9713 Lost to Pitt
3. Ohio State (11-1) .9192 Moved to #1
4. Georgia (10-2) .8274 Got jumped by LSU
5. Kansas (11-1) .7918 Lost to Mizzou
6. Virginia Tech (10-2) .7811 Got jumped by LSU and won ACC
7. LSU (10-2) .7744 Played for a title and won
8. USC (9-2) .6926
9. Oklahoma (10-2) .6829
10. Florida (9-3) .6184
11. Boston College (10-2) .6169
12. Hawaii (11-0) .5835
13. Arizona State (9-2) .5571
14. Tennessee (9-3) .4614
15. Illinois (9-3) .4198
16. Clemson (9-3) .3358
17. Oregon (8-3) .2706
18. Wisconsin (9-3) .2628
19. BYU (9-2) .2252
20. Texas (9-3) .2216
21. South Florida (9-3) .1880
22. Virginia (9-3) .1795
23. Cincinnati (9-3) .1490
24. Auburn (8-4) .1472
25. Boise State (10-2) .1125

This year isn't a stretch if you look at the numbers:

1 Alabama 11-0 .987
2 Texas 10-1 .921
3 Oklahoma 10-1 .912
4 Florida 10-1 .875
5 USC 9-1 .797
6 Utah 12-0 .786
7 Texas Tech 10-1 .779
8 Penn State 11-1 .752
9 Boise State 11-0 .658
10 Ohio State 10-2 .621
11 Georgia 9-2 .602
12 Oklahoma State 9-2 .570
13 Missouri 9-2 .559
14 TCU 10-2 .470
15 Ball State 11-0 .438
16 Cincinnati 9-2 .397
17 Oregon State 8-3 .313
18 Brigham Young 10-2 .263
19 Michigan State 9-3 .212
20 Florida State 8-3 .188
21 Boston College 8-3 .186
22 Georgia Tech 8-3 .181
23 Oregon 8-3 .155
24 Northwestern 9-3 .113
25 Pittsburgh 7-3 .041

Texas BCS score .921
Texas Tech BCS score .779

Do you really think that if Texas beats aggy that if Tech beats an unranked Baylor and #13 Missouri that they can move up that many points?

Sorry, Lonny, no freakin way.

BTW.....my Owls are in round 3.......BWAHAHAHAHA!!!! ;)

[lonny23]

Texas BCS score .921
Texas Tech BCS score .779

Do you really think that if Texas beats aggy that if Tech beats an unranked Baylor and #13 Missouri that they can move up that many points?

Sorry, Lonny, no freakin way.

BTW.....my Owls are in round 3.......BWAHAHAHAHA!!!! ;)
I know it can happen. That's not false hope. I'm just telling you what can happen and what will probably happen.

1. LSU was 10-2 last year and 11-2 after the SEC Title Game.
2. Tech is 10-1 and maybe on their way to 12-1 and a Big 12 Title in the toughest division in the best conference this year.
3. Texas will lose BCS points playing A&M.
4. Georgia got jumped and didn't even play another game.
5. Va Tech won the ACC and still got jumped.
6. All we've heard for weeks is the SEC and Big 12 champs will play for a national title. The BCS will turn on it's head if Tech wins the Big 12 and doesn't play for a title and Texas does. The voters might look for excuses to downgrade Tech, but they're not that low.
7. Tech is an .890 in the computers and that will go up if they end up 12-1.
8. Again, the humans are going to feel the pressure to vote up Tech if OU loses.
9. Tech won't jump Texas this week, but they will if they beat Mizzou.
10. Yes, the OU loss was bad, but the fans nationwide are going to protest if Texas beats out Tech. There are already people like Jerry Palm saying Tech would jump Texas.
11. I'm pretty smart when it comes to the BCS numbers. If you give me the game results, I have a pretty good idea what the rankings will look like.
12. In case you don't remember, Tech went from 7th to 2nd the week they beat Texas. They almost passed 'bama after OSU.
13. Pollsters have almost always had a slotting system of bumping up rankings for conference champions and BCS bowl teams in the last few weeks of the season. I don't see that changing this year.
14. I said your Owls wouldn't make Round 5. I said nothing about 3!

[lonny23]

Texas BCS score .921
Texas Tech BCS score .779

Do you really think that if Texas beats aggy that if Tech beats an unranked Baylor and #13 Missouri that they can move up that many points?

Sorry, Lonny, no freakin way.

BTW.....my Owls are in round 3.......BWAHAHAHAHA!!!! ;)
I forgot a couple points.

1. The gap narrows when other teams lose.
2. Tech would play 2 games to UT's 1.
3. Baylor helps more than A&M.
4. Mizzou helps a lot.
5. OU losing helps Tech more than it helps Texas.
6. UT might tread water after the SEC game, but Tech would gain ground.

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

It's plain and simple; we need a playoff system. Utah won't play for a national title but, if they win out convincingly, a legit question is, do they jump USC? Utah beat Oregon State, who whooped USC. Something strange is going to happen this weekend, and somebody/somebodies who is suppose to win, is going to get beat.

[lonny23]

It's plain and simple; we need a playoff system. Utah won't play for a national title but, if they win out convincingly, a legit question is, do they jump USC? Utah beat Oregon State, who whooped USC. Something strange is going to happen this weekend, and somebody/somebodies who is suppose to win, is going to get beat.
Utah is doing pretty good in the computers, but I doubt the voters give them a chance. Yeah, somebody might get beat and you know where I'm voting!

[Hookin'Em]

wutever I dont care about any computers anyone who is rational recognizes that TEXAS belongs in the NC game after we whip aggy on turkey day

[yankee]

keep on hatin' on the sooners loony!
we all know how your grand predictions turned out last time! :notworthy

[Slim-Rob]

wutever I dont care about any computers anyone who is rational recognizes that TEXAS belongs in the NC game after we whip aggy on turkey day


OU has the shot before Texas does. They are playing better ball right now.

Tech has no shot though

[slorch]

To be honest, OU really did nothing different than what they've been doing. And all of that considering they were without DE's Davis, English and LB-Reynolds. Plus, a few O-linemen were playing with nagging injuries. If they played again, it'd probably be closer. Tech is a damn good team... I mean they have a November win over Tejas. Tech will destroy someone in a Bowl game.

I think OU will be to Tech what Pujols was to Brad Lidge. we were on the precipice of college football, and the Sooners removed all doubt who reigned supreme at the end of the evening.

I kind of liked the scenarios of UT and Tech meeting in the MNC, but I would absolutely not want to play OU again. I'd rather stand behind a mule in a catcher's stance...

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

wutever I dont care about any computers anyone who is rational recognizes that TEXAS belongs in the NC game after we whip aggy on turkey day

Damn bro, who did you take for English? Craig Mack?? Or, Plies???

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

Utah is doing pretty good in the computers, but I doubt the voters give them a chance. Yeah, somebody might get beat and you know where I'm voting!

That's true about Utah! Unfortunately, the Utes, and TCU, play in the Mountain West Conference.:mad:

Of course, we all know where you're voting. You don't back down for nothing!

[HUM398]

Damn bro, who did you take for English? Craig Mack?? Or, Plies???

Its not his fault...his mom dropped him when he was a child.

[lonny23]

keep on hatin' on the sooners loony!
we all know how your grand predictions turned out last time! :notworthy
I'm not hatin'. I'm just saying what I think. I took up for some noisy Sooner fans at the game right in front of me. They were in the Tech section and I told the guys around us to leave them alone because they didn't want them clapping and celebrating. It was their stadium and the fans had reason to celebrate.

[lonny23]

I think OU will be to Tech what Pujols was to Brad Lidge. we were on the precipice of college football, and the Sooners removed all doubt who reigned supreme at the end of the evening.

I kind of liked the scenarios of UT and Tech meeting in the MNC, but I would absolutely not want to play OU again. I'd rather stand behind a mule in a catcher's stance...
I also remember that Lidge was in the World Series and Pujols wasn't in 2005!:D

[lonny23]

That's true about Utah! Unfortunately, the Utes, and TCU, play in the Mountain West Conference.:mad:

Of course, we all know where you're voting. You don't back down for nothing!I was just talking about saying OU would lose.

If I had a vote in the polls:

1. Alabama
2. Oklahoma
3. Texas
4. Texas Tech
5. Florida
6. USC
7. Penn State
8. Utah
9. Oklahoma State
10. Missouri

My vote next week might look a little different!:D

[GoOwls]

I was just talking about saying OU would lose.

If I had a vote in the polls:

1. Alabama
2. Oklahoma
3. Texas
4. Texas Tech
5. Florida
6. USC
7. Penn State
8. Utah
9. Oklahoma State
10. Missouri

My vote next week might look a little different!:D

Now I know you're nuts :eek:.....Alabama in not the #1 team, they are playing a somewhat depleated SEC, when compared to the Big 12.....I think Alabama is #5, at best, behind OU, Texas, Florida, and Tech or USC.

I think Texas' best hope to get to the NC game is to piggy-back behind OU....like this:

OU wins out....Texas needs OU to win out to improve their strength of schedule.
Texas wins out.
Texas needs anybody they played with a winning record to win out, Except for OSU vs. OU.
Alabama loses to Auburn or Florida.....preferably Auburn, but I think they can get in even if Florida beats Alabama.
Tech needs to win out to improve Texas rating.
That's just how I see it.

The falicy that Texas fans have is that they want OU to lose....if OU loses, I think that may doom their chances......it puts Tech back in the picture and in the title game.

[lonny23]

Now I know you're nuts :eek:.....Alabama in not the #1 team, they are playing a somewhat depleated SEC, when compared to the Big 12.....I think Alabama is #5, at best, behind OU, Texas, Florida, and Tech or USC.

I think Texas' best hope to get to the NC game is to piggy-back behind OU....like this:

OU wins out....Texas needs OU to win out to improve their strength of schedule.
Texas wins out.
Texas needs anybody they played with a winning record to win out, Except for OSU vs. OU.
Alabama loses to Auburn or Florida.....preferably Auburn, but I think they can get in even if Florida beats Alabama.
Tech needs to win out to improve Texas rating.
That's just how I see it.

The falicy that Texas fans have is that they want OU to lose....if OU loses, I think that may doom their chances......it puts Tech back in the picture and in the title game.I didn't say 'bama was the best. I said I'd vote them #1 because they're 11-0. I personally told a 'bama fan yesterday that they wouldn't beat the best Big 12 teams.

[slorch]

I also remember that Lidge was in the World Series and Pujols wasn't in 2005!:D

I know but it took 2-3 years for Lidge to find his Mojo again.

[GoOwls]

I didn't say 'bama was the best. I said I'd vote them #1 because they're 11-0. I personally told a 'bama fan yesterday that they wouldn't beat the best Big 12 teams.

See that's the kind of thinking that got us in this mess to begin with.....I don't care if a team is 5-5 and another is 10-0....if you think the 5-5 team is better, vote for the 5-5 team....we do it in Texas HS football all the time.

Just because you are undefeated, it doesn't give you a carte blanche to Top 10 entitlement.

[Firebird]

See that's the kind of thinking that got us in this mess to begin with.....I don't care if a team is 5-5 and another is 10-0....if you think the 5-5 team is better, vote for the 5-5 team....we do it in Texas HS football all the time.

Just because you are undefeated, it doesn't give you a carte blanche to Top 10 entitlement.

How is Florida so much better than Bama? They AREN'T undefeated, playing in the same depleted SEC. What statement wins do they have, or are you just impressed with some of the "flash". That Citadel win do it for you?