Carroll-Plano Attendance??

[sldragondad]

Paper said 33,000 at Waco for Carroll-Abilene. Did not seem like that many but I alway like to compare Carrolls turnout vs opponets. We ALWAYS have more. Looked even last friday.
Until the mid 3rd qtr when the Abilene fan were pouring out like water.
Like everyone else I'm glad it's Plano at TS and not Midland in Abilene.
This is gonna be BIG! Plano will bring everyone even the mayor. Carroll is playing in what is really thier home stadium. I say 48,000. If your not there by 10:30 you can forget sitting inside the 20.......Thoughts??? :D

[PlanoNative]

No way it's 48K. I say more like 25 - 30K. The Texas - CU game is on at the same time for one thing. :mad: I'll be donning the headphones.

plus there's a lot of other playoff action around the area Saturday. No true fan of either team should miss this one though. Go Cats!!

[reed35]

It will be big and i hope these two set a new attendance record!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TS is like Plano's home stadium also.
it looked like Plano had more fans than MHS in Abilene.
Bring everyone and make some noise.

[Mhs06]

It will be big and i hope these two set a new attendance record!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TS is like Plano's home stadium also.
it looked like Plano had more fans than MHS in Abilene.
Bring everyone and make some noise.

Meh, I dunno, it was pretty close.

[Butch Fifield]

There will be probably 30K at most. You just don't get the crowds up at Texas Stadium that you did in the old days.

[dragonsdaddy]

since the record is 49+, there's no way for that to be surpassed this week. too much competition from too many good games. the game after slc will attract a few extra thou. 30k at best imo.

[cougardude]

There definitley weren't 15,000 Plano fans in Abilene like one poster said there would be when he was complaining that Shotwell was going to be too small. :rolleyes: Neither side was full.

[yankee]

there will definetly be more than 30,000 at the plano game. plano wants to beat slc extremely badly, like more than other teams. i heard they were chanting for slc at the end of the game.

[Jive Turkey]

Ummm, Plano is not a one high school town like it was when we were packing 40,000 plus into Texas Stadium in 1977 - the Highland Park quarterfinals, Permian semifinals, and the state final against Port Neches Grove, which set an attendance record that still stands. Two-thirds of Plano's population could care less about the game.

30-35,000 at most.

[dragonsdaddy]

Ummm, Plano is not a one high school town like it was when we were packing 40,000 plus into Texas Stadium in 1977 - the Highland Park quarterfinals, Permian semifinals, and the state final against Port Neches Grove, which set an attendance record that still stands. Two-thirds of Plano's population could care less about the game.

30-35,000 at most.
point of fact- the permian game in 77 was in lubbock. at least that's the airport from which i flew back to houston afterwards.

[Jive Turkey]

Was it? Thanks. I get the 77 and 78 games confused. Can't remember which was where.

[Butch Fifield]

point of fact- the permian game in 77 was in lubbock. at least that's the airport from which i flew back to houston afterwards.

I think he is talking about the next year when Permian came to Texas Stadium.

But Jive gets confused like that :)

Plus he was like 5 or 6 years old.

[dragonsdaddy]

those 2 games were quite similar. it was predicted by the plano coaches the night before the 77 op game, that they would/could block every xp/fg attempt, unless they changed their techniques. it proved to be very accurate and necessary as we blocked 2 of their all-state kicker's fg attempts to win, 3-0. needless to say, i looked like a genius in the stands as i predicted both blocks.

[Butch Fifield]

I had a scrapbook back then with all the newspaper articles and a few programs (HP '77) from like 1977 to 1981. Don't know if they are in a box somewhere. I need to go find them. It is kinda cool reading them and remembering some of the names you haven't heard in awhile.

[Alamo_Mojo]

those 2 games were quite similar. it was predicted by the plano coaches the night before the 77 op game, that they would/could block every xp/fg attempt, unless they changed their techniques. it proved to be very accurate and necessary as we blocked 2 of their all-state kicker's fg attempts to win, 3-0. needless to say, i looked like a genius in the stands as i predicted both blocks.

We didn't have a kicker that was ALL-State in 77 .......now we did have one earlier in 75 season

[dragonsdaddy]

i know i saw him pounding 50 yders like nothing before the game. if he wqasn't he should have been based on pregame warmups.

[Jive Turkey]

I have the Plano/Stratford 1978 state final program. Damn Craig James.

[dragonsdaddy]

I have the Plano/Stratford 1978 state final program. Damn Craig James.
thank goodness that was the last hs football game i've seen at that dump.

[Butch Fifield]

thank goodness that was the last hs football game i've seen at that dump.

That was the only game I ever saw there.

It was my mom's birthday. She was coming back in from out of town that day. I talked my dad into driving down to Houston and leaving my mom a note on the kitchen table. :)

[dragonsdaddy]

That was the only game I ever saw there.

It was my mom's birthday. She was coming back in from out of town that day. I talked my dad into driving down to Houston and leaving my mom a note on the kitchen table. :)
sounds like something your dad had to pay more than face value when he got home the next day.

[Alamo_Mojo]

i know i saw him pounding 50 yders like nothing before the game. if he wqasn't he should have been based on pregame warmups.

Its funny you say that because Robert (The KICKER) was one of the strongest guy on our team that year, yet he only played kicker both his junior and senior year - Go figure :confused: He looked like body builder out of uniform!

[warbird00]

Paper said 33,000 at Waco for Carroll-Abilene. Did not seem like that many but I alway like to compare Carrolls turnout vs opponets. We ALWAYS have more. Looked even last friday.
Until the mid 3rd qtr when the Abilene fan were pouring out like water.
Like everyone else I'm glad it's Plano at TS and not Midland in Abilene.
This is gonna be BIG! Plano will bring everyone even the mayor. Carroll is playing in what is really thier home stadium. I say 48,000. If your not there by 10:30 you can forget sitting inside the 20.......Thoughts??? :D

It was not even. Not trying to be picky, but after the game I have to stand by the one area we won, which was attendence. If there were 33K, I would say at least 17-20K of those were Abilene fans.

[dragonsdaddy]

It was not even. Not trying to be picky, but after the game I have to stand by the one area we won, which was attendence. If there were 33K, I would say at least 17-20K of those were Abilene fans.
i agree with you.

[reed35]

There definitley weren't 15,000 Plano fans in Abilene like one poster said there would be when he was complaining that Shotwell was going to be too small. :rolleyes: Neither side was full.
yes sir...i was wrong and never claimed to be perfect. I did think from the way people talked that there would have been bigger crowd.

[reed35]

I had a scrapbook back then with all the newspaper articles and a few programs (HP '77) from like 1977 to 1981. Don't know if they are in a box somewhere. I need to go find them. It is kinda cool reading them and remembering some of the names you haven't heard in awhile.
i still have the Plano-HP game on video from 77.

[Butch Fifield]

i still have the Plano-HP game on video from 77.

man...where did you get that? that is a classic. that was way before they started televising.

I have the '87 championship game on tape, but last time I tried to watch it wouldn't work. not sure if it is the tape or the VCR.

[reed35]

man...where did you get that? that is a classic. that was way before they started televising.

I have the '87 championship game on tape, but last time I tried to watch it wouldn't work. not sure if it is the tape or the VCR.
it is the game tape. Coach Smith ,DC, made it for me.

[drgnbkr]

Were'nt there 35,000 plus for Carroll Abilene at Texas Stadium last year? I know they had to open the upper level which they have'nt done this year...bet they do Saturday!

[BAMF cowboy]

Were'nt there 35,000 plus for Carroll Abilene at Texas Stadium last year? I know they had to open the upper level which they have'nt done this year...bet they do Saturday!

yes, last year the slc - abilene game drew 36,000, but the game was running late and there was a big 4A matchup (ennis and texas high i think?) right after so there was a lot of crowd waiting for that game, they opened the upper deck for them. This year the FWST cited the attendence as 33,000. There was no later game this time, which makes this an incredible acheivement, yet not surprising knowing how these two team's fanbases travel.

And in response to a post earlier in the thread, Abilene had far more fans than southlake did at the beginning of the game.

[WildcatFan]

As much as I would like to see the record broken, especially in this game I don't think so!

The biggest reason is on the Plano side, as someone mentioend earlier when Plano borke the record the first time we were basically a one school town. With the emergence of East and West the numbers in the city are a bit diluted.

SLC always draws a good home crowd and I am sure that Plano will bring all the faithfull out as well, but it might be tough to break the record.

I encourage all Plano East and Plano West fans to come root for the Boys in Maroon we need all the help we can get. For that matter I encourage the rest of our brotheren form 8-5A Allen, Marcus and FM to come as well Hell anyone that will just come and root for the underdog

[BAMF cowboy]

does plano have a big following? how much do you guys usually bring to a game??

for dragon nation ill say around 15,000+ for playoff games

[drgnbkr]

I wonder who plays after us?

[WildcatFan]

does plano have a big following? how much do you guys usually bring to a game??

for dragon nation ill say around 15,000+ for playoff games

Of course Plano has a big following mostly the faithful ,but we are a large school with a ton of alumni.
I would estimate we had about 6000-6500 yesterday at Shotwell which was not bad for a road trip game in Abilene.

If I were betting I would guess we will draw about 12,000 next Sat. not counting any fans from East, West or other supportes just coming out!

[BAMF cowboy]

im looking forward to the big crowd

i bet there'll be a lot of extra people coming to see the show

[dragonsdaddy]

many of the potential drop-ins will be going to their teams games in denton, or waco.

[dragons08]

im looking forward to the big crowd

i bet there'll be a lot of extra people coming to see the show
to see the crews gun show?

[BAMF cowboy]

precisely

consider the game as an intermission between pushups

[yankee]

to see the crews gun show?
of course.

[dragons08]

precisely

consider the game as an intermission between pushups
do your arms kill the next day? id imagine they would

[BAMF cowboy]

do your arms kill the next day? id imagine they would

at the beginning of the season my arms would fail to function the day after...not anymore though:D

but hey...the title of this thread isn't "The story of DragonCrew's life"...im sure most people dont care

What do you know...300 posts, i hoped it would be more monumental than this...oh well, time to finish a paper

[dragons08]

at the beginning of the season my arms would fail to function the day after...not anymore though:D

but hey...the title of this thread isn't "The story of DragonCrew's life"...im sure most people dont care

What do you know...300 posts, i hoped it would be more monumental than this...oh well, time to finish a paper
it is monumental! your describing the intensity of being in the crew and the hardships

[dragons08]

after a while it becomes only monumental when you get into the thousands, but not thats starting to get boring now... maybe it'll be more entertaining during 10 thousands..

[my3sons]

has the time been announce yet? I am out of town and can't find the start time. Thanks.

[dragons08]

has the time been announce yet? I am out of town and can't find the start time. Thanks.
all i heard was its the early game..

so eitehr noon, 1 or 2

[BAMF cowboy]

on the carroll websites its posted as 1

[zippy]

The last I saw SLC had a pop of 25K in the entire city, is this still correct? I think that was an 03 estimate.

Paper said 33,000 at Waco for Carroll-Abilene. Did not seem like that many but I alway like to compare Carrolls turnout vs opponets. We ALWAYS have more. Looked even last friday.
Until the mid 3rd qtr when the Abilene fan were pouring out like water.
Like everyone else I'm glad it's Plano at TS and not Midland in Abilene.
This is gonna be BIG! Plano will bring everyone even the mayor. Carroll is playing in what is really thier home stadium. I say 48,000. If your not there by 10:30 you can forget sitting inside the 20.......Thoughts??? :D

[PlanoNative]

The last I saw SLC had a pop of 25K in the entire city, is this still correct? I think that was an 03 estimate.

Every CEO, Doctor, Lawyer and Pilot outside of Highland Park lives there so 25K sounds about right. I don't think they let you live or visit there w/out one of the above titles. :)

Oh, and everyone lives on a McRanch.

[PaulinPlano]

No way it's 48K. I say more like 25 - 30K. The Texas - CU game is on at the same time for one thing. :mad: I'll be donning the headphones.

plus there's a lot of other playoff action around the area Saturday. No true fan of either team should miss this one though. Go Cats!!

I will have the DVR going for the Texas game. I think everyone else in Plano who wants to see both will record the Texas game.

[PaulinPlano]

Ummm, Plano is not a one high school town like it was when we were packing 40,000 plus into Texas Stadium in 1977 - the Highland Park quarterfinals, Permian semifinals, and the state final against Port Neches Grove, which set an attendance record that still stands. Two-thirds of Plano's population could care less about the game.

30-35,000 at most.

Not True. I am an East Fan and I will be at the game. And I will say since Plano is the original school in Plano, they have the larger fanbase even though East is a bigger school. If you are a fan of HS football and living in Plano, you will be at this game.

[Dargason]

Not True. I am an East Fan and I will be at the game. And I will say since Plano is the original school in Plano, they have the larger fanbase even though East is a bigger school. If you are a fan of HS football and living in Plano, you will be at this game.
I hope everyone in Plano (and elsewhere) who doesn't feel obligated to cheer for SLC will come out on Saturday dressed in maroon and sit with us! We'll give you a paw sign and you can help us root for a gutsy bunch of kids. Go Cats!

[cougardude]

Paper said 33,000 at Waco for Carroll-Abilene. Did not seem like that many but I alway like to compare Carrolls turnout vs opponets. We ALWAYS have more. Looked even last friday.
Until the mid 3rd qtr when the Abilene fan were pouring out like water.
Like everyone else I'm glad it's Plano at TS and not Midland in Abilene.
This is gonna be BIG! Plano will bring everyone even the mayor. Carroll is playing in what is really thier home stadium. I say 48,000. If your not there by 10:30 you can forget sitting inside the 20.......Thoughts??? :D

I heard that Abilene High actually had more than Southlake Carroll.

[PaulinPlano]

As much as I would like to see the record broken, especially in this game I don't think so!

The biggest reason is on the Plano side, as someone mentioend earlier when Plano borke the record the first time we were basically a one school town. With the emergence of East and West the numbers in the city are a bit diluted.

SLC always draws a good home crowd and I am sure that Plano will bring all the faithfull out as well, but it might be tough to break the record.

I encourage all Plano East and Plano West fans to come root for the Boys in Maroon we need all the help we can get. For that matter I encourage the rest of our brotheren form 8-5A Allen, Marcus and FM to come as well Hell anyone that will just come and root for the underdog

You are correct in saying that it is a bit diluted. But not so much by the other schools. I would say it is more about all the other sports that have diluted the football fanbase in Plano. Hockey, Lacrosse, soccer, etc. All that said, Plano will outnumber Southlake at the game. If only 10% of Plano is interested in this game, we will match the entire population of Southlake.

I was at the 2nd round triple header at TS the entire day and Plano outnumbered Southlake for that round.

Now if you talk percentages... Football is King in Southlake and they blow everyone away in attendance percentage.

[PaulinPlano]

I wonder who plays after us?

Wylie and Hebron.

[PaulinPlano]

has the time been announce yet? I am out of town and can't find the start time. Thanks.

1:00 PM per DMN.

[PaulinPlano]

I hope everyone in Plano (and elsewhere) who doesn't feel obligated to cheer for SLC will come out on Saturday dressed in maroon and sit with us! We'll give you a paw sign and you can help us root for a gutsy bunch of kids. Go Cats!

I used my black and gold paw sign at the South Grand Prairie game. If they give me a maroon paw sign, I will use it! :D

[WildcatFan]

I used my black and gold paw sign at the South Grand Prairie game. If they give me a maroon paw sign, I will use it! :D

That's just a great testiment to all the fans and folks who live in Plano, we are arch enemies during district play but find a way to root for each other in the Playoffs.

I rooted for East against Trinity this year, rooted for West last year in their run, hell I even rooted for Allen this year and that says alot coming from a Plano Fan.

I am a coach in youth football PFL in Plano and I have coached many kids who went on to all 3 schools so regardless of colors I will always cheer on the home team.

I hope as many folks from town who can make it comes out the game and cheers for us.

We have pleanty of Maroon Paws so come on out!

[PaulinPlano]

I even rooted for Allen this year and that says alot coming from a Plano Fan.

That IS saying a lot!!! :eek:

But I have to admit rooting for Allen against Garland at Kimbrough a couple of years ago. That was a great game and a packed house!!!:D

[WildcatFan]

That IS saying a lot!!! :eek:

But I have to admit rooting for Allen against Garland at Kimbrough a couple of years ago. That was a great game and a packed house!!!:D

I prolly have to admit my motives were such that I would rather face Allen in the Quarterfinals than SLC.

But the game this week I feel is fate it has been hyped up all year win or loose it couldn't have happened any other way!

[dragons08]

I heard that Abilene High actually had more than Southlake Carroll.
yea it was about 60-40 in abilene's favor

[dragons08]

Every CEO, Doctor, Lawyer and Pilot outside of Highland Park lives there so 25K sounds about right. I don't think they let you live or visit there w/out one of the above titles. :)

Oh, and everyone lives on a McRanch.
i think theres more jobs than that..

[dragonfootballfan]

There was a prediction of 40,000 is what someone that went to the booster club meeting last night told me. I think that is a little high along with the 33k number last week against Abilene.

[lonny23]

I say it will be ZERO because both teams fans think it's impossible for the other team to win!:p

[dragons08]

I say it will be ZERO because both teams fans think it's impossible for the other team to win!:p
million bucks says your wrong

[graveyardpoet]

As much as I would like to see the record broken, especially in this game I don't think so!

The biggest reason is on the Plano side, as someone mentioend earlier when Plano borke the record the first time we were basically a one school town. With the emergence of East and West the numbers in the city are a bit diluted.

SLC always draws a good home crowd and I am sure that Plano will bring all the faithfull out as well, but it might be tough to break the record.

I encourage all Plano East and Plano West fans to come root for the Boys in Maroon we need all the help we can get. For that matter I encourage the rest of our brotheren form 8-5A Allen, Marcus and FM to come as well Hell anyone that will just come and root for the underdog

Well for that matter since Wylie is playing after us, I would encourage any of the Wylie Fans to come early. Word is you will probably be with Plano next year and we definitely do not mind mixing the Mighty MAROON.

[lonny23]

million bucks says your wrong
In the old days, they'd shoot somebody for not having the money to cover a bet. Either that or take away your license. Wait, you don't have that either!:p

[WildcatFan]

Paper said 33,000 at Waco for Carroll-Abilene. Did not seem like that many but I alway like to compare Carrolls turnout vs opponets. We ALWAYS have more. Looked even last friday.
Until the mid 3rd qtr when the Abilene fan were pouring out like water.
Like everyone else I'm glad it's Plano at TS and not Midland in Abilene.
This is gonna be BIG! Plano will bring everyone even the mayor. Carroll is playing in what is really thier home stadium. I say 48,000. If your not there by 10:30 you can forget sitting inside the 20.......Thoughts??? :D

Sure about that bud no one has won more High School games in TS than one team..

Can you guess?

Want a hint?

Need some Help?

PLANO

:D

Plano was Playing in TS when South Lake was nothing more than a bait shop and empty fields!

[toonman]

Sure about that bud no one has won more High School games in TS than one team..

Can you guess?

Want a hint?

Need some Help?

PLANO

:D

Plano was Playing in TS when South Lake was nothing more than a bait shop and empty fields!

I have to admit, your last comment did make me laugh.

[dragons08]

In the old days, they'd shoot somebody for not having the money to cover a bet. Either that or take away your license. Wait, you don't have that either!:p
defintaly not cool

[BAMF cowboy]

Sure about that bud no one has won more High School games in TS than one team..

Can you guess?

Want a hint?

Need some Help?

PLANO

:D

Plano was Playing in TS when South Lake was nothing more than a bait shop and empty fields!


That's true but 12 of SLC's last 21 playoff games have been at TS. They have won all of them. 5 out of 6 were last season, and 2 out of 3 have been this season. They've been playing there a lot lately and are very used to it. If they had a second home, TS would be it.

[dragonsdaddy]

Sure about that bud no one has won more High School games in TS than one team..

Can you guess?

Want a hint?

Need some Help?

PLANO

:D

Plano was Playing in TS when South Lake was nothing more than a bait shop and empty fields!
don't want to be cruel, but when was plano's last victory at ts? what is their overall record there? they were the only hs team to use ts as their home stadium due to some jj pierce cretins.

[WildcatFan]

don't want to be cruel, but when was plano's last victory at ts? what is their overall record there? they were the only hs team to use ts as their home stadium due to some jj pierce cretins.


Are you sure you want to go down this path.

1st for starters the last time we won we beat SGP the same day you beat Allen, boy you are slow out there.

2nd let me compile the stats for you it will take some time, too many games too many wins, unless KT2000 has them readily availible.

[dragonsdaddy]

Are you sure you want to go down this path.

1st for starters the last time we won we beat SGP the same day you beat Allen, boy you are slow out there.

2nd let me compile the stats for you it will take some time, too many games too many wins, unless KT2000 has them readily availible.
sorry, i forgot about that one. i knew the answer, and it isn't even close as to games played there. they also are second behind the cowboys in victories. i think d ryan was second until this year when slc passed them.

[reed35]

don't want to be cruel, but when was plano's last victory at ts? what is their overall record there? they were the only hs team to use ts as their home stadium due to some jj pierce cretins.
jj pierce?? what did pierce do?
i remember when richardson burned clark field and we berkner(?) played in TS

[dragonsdaddy]

jj pierce?? what did pierce do?
i remember when richardson burned clark field and we berkner(?) played in TS
several brain dead mustangs twerps burned a big jjp on clark stadium's new astroturf. plano had to play the rest of their home games(2-3) at ts. i'm pretty sure it was pierce. you could be right with richardson. we need someone with the plano football textbook to look that up. i'm at work, so i can't.

[WildcatFan]

sorry, i forgot about that one. i knew the answer, and it isn't even close as to games played there. they also are second behind the cowboys in victories. i think d ryan was second until this year when slc passed them.

????

So you are still saying that SLC has played more games in TS than Plano.

"Plano lifted Brence to his 100th career victory last week. The program will be after its 80th playoff victory and 15th under Brence today. This will be the Wildcats' 41st appearance in the playoffs and their 113th playoff game. Plano has played more games at Texas Stadium than any other high school team."

Courtesy of DMN and Plano Star Courier

[sldragondad]

Sure about that bud no one has won more High School games in TS than one team..

Can you guess?

Want a hint?

Need some Help?

PLANO

:D

Plano was Playing in TS when South Lake was nothing more than a bait shop and empty fields!

Your right. I should have qualified that statement I meant, our home stadium in the post leather helmet era.:p

[dragonsdaddy]

sorry, i thought you knew that i probably know more about the history of plano high than anyone on these or any other boards. i guarantee no one has seen more plano state championship games than i have. the victory count for dryan was in the paper earlier, and i bet it was for only recent history. sorry for the confusion. the answer is plano.

[WildcatFan]

Your right. I should have qualified that statement I meant, our home stadium in the post leather helmet era.:p


LOL I will give you that one.... touche':)

[Butch Fifield]

several brain dead mustangs twerps burned a big jjp on clark stadium's new astroturf.

It was definitely Richardson. They beat Plano 3-0 that year.

[Butch Fifield]

Plano's alltime record at Texas Stadium is 29-10-1.

2 of those were regular season games because of the fire.

[dragonsdaddy]

Plano's alltime record at Texas Stadium is 29-10-1.

2 of those were regular season games because of the fire.
since ts will likely not be standing after jerryworld comes on line, that record will likely stand forever.

[WildcatFan]

since ts will likely not be standing after jerryworld comes on line, that record will likely stand forever.

True, I doubt Plano will ever call the new Jerryland home maybe SLC can, hell that's so far for us we won't consider it nuetral, may have to go to Waco!

[dragonsdaddy]

True, I doubt Plano will ever call the new Jerryland home maybe SLC can, hell that's so far for us we won't consider it nuetral, may have to go to Waco!
since they are going with grass, i heard, it probably won't be used for hs games anyway. grass can't take the punishment of weekly triple headers as well as the cowboy games. it won't be that much further either, if it does become a hs venue.

[WildcatFan]

since they are going with grass, i heard, it probably won't be used for hs games anyway. grass can't take the punishment of weekly triple headers as well as the cowboy games. it won't be that much further either, if it does become a hs venue.

Good point I never thought about the grass factor, well may be you can lease Texas Stadium since you need a bigger stadium.

We could care less about TS we would rather play at John Clark any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

[dragonsdaddy]

Good point I never thought about the grass factor, well may be you can lease Texas Stadium since you need a bigger stadium.

We could care less about TS we would rather play at John Clark any day of the week and twice on Sunday.
when are you going to upgrade the turf? it was bad when it was new, and it hasn't gotten any better. the old astroturf is an orthopedists delight.

[WildcatFan]

when are you going to upgrade the turf? it was bad when it was new, and it hasn't gotten any better. the old astroturf is an orthopedists delight.

Probably never considering we have Kimbrough that sits empty.

Fact is most Plano insiders will tell you they prefer the harder turf its a much faster field, but prone to more injury!

[dragonsdaddy]

i think you'll find that no/few coaches will want to play playoff games on that surface.

[PaulinPlano]

since ts will likely not be standing after jerryworld comes on line, that record will likely stand forever.

This is not true but I heard that Plano ISD will purchase Texas Stadium and begin using it for Home football games due to the consolidation of all 3 Senior High Schools growing to an enrollment of 15,000. The football team will have preseasons games with Stephen F Austin, Rice and Texas State before begining their district schedule. The band will begin holding tryouts to keep the Marching band size under 1000. Season tickets in the lower bowl will require the purchase on seat bonds.:D

[dragons08]

This is not true but I heard that Plano ISD will purchase Texas Stadium and begin using it for Home football games due to the consolidation of all 3 Senior High Schools growing to an enrollment of 15,000. The football team will have preseasons games with Stephen F Austin, Rice and Texas State before begining their district schedule. The band will begin holding tryouts to keep the Marching band size under 1000. Season tickets in the lower bowl will require the purchase on seat bonds.:D
Rice and Texas state? spsh

we got UT, USC and Penn State, and thats not even counting district

in our district we got the bears, colts, pats, steelers, cowboys, and the broncos

[dragonsdaddy]

This is not true but I heard that Plano ISD will purchase Texas Stadium and begin using it for Home football games due to the consolidation of all 3 Senior High Schools growing to an enrollment of 15,000. The football team will have preseasons games with Stephen F Austin, Rice and Texas State before begining their district schedule. The band will begin holding tryouts to keep the Marching band size under 1000. Season tickets in the lower bowl will require the purchase on seat bonds.:D
that would be almost as fiscally responsible as building a roadblocked 20 million dollar stadium in a berg like murphy. who'd ever do such a silly thing?

[WildcatFan]

that would be almost as fiscally responsible as building a roadblocked 20 million dollar stadium in a berg like murphy. who'd ever do such a silly thing?

dragonsdaddy!

We don't agre on much but AMEN to that Brother!

[Dargason]

It was definitely Richardson. They beat Plano 3-0 that year.
I was in the band that year and we practiced on the field within a week after the fire. You could not see the RHS they tried to burn since the fire got out of control and incinerated over half the turf.

Ah memories. Anyone remember when the Highland Park kids came up and lynched the geese around our campus pond?

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

Probably never considering we have Kimbrough that sits empty.

Fact is most Plano insiders will tell you they prefer the harder turf its a much faster field, but prone to more injury!

I played on that turf in the 80's and it sucked. Hard as a rock. IN fact during the september games their was such a crickett infestation that instead of opposite team helment marks on your helment you would get crickett residue on your pants, jersey and helmet. It sucked.

IN fact after the Victor Langely Led Richardson eagles beat Plano 3-0 in 1979 3-0 the burnt Clark Field turf was put into Schimelpfening Middle School to help keep dust down during construciton when the school opened in the Fall of 80. I promise the turf was softer in the hallways of a unfinished middle school than it was on Clark Field a few years later.

Side note: Plano played their last 2 home games at Texas Stadium in 1979 on their way to another district Championship.

Reliving memories from the glory day!! I quote Wooderson from Dazed and Confused. "You just got to keep on living no matter how many rules they put on you!

Go Plano!! DO the impossible: Beat SLC.

PLANO BELIEVES IN EACH AND EVERYONE OF THE 2005 WILDCATS:) YOU CAN DO IT. BELIEVE IN YOUR TEAMMATES. THEY WILL RISE TO THE OCCASSION.

LIVE EVERY MOMENT ON SATURDAY. EVERYONE of the 15,000 PLANO FANS ON SATURDAY BELIEVE YOU CAN WIN AND HAVE IT IN YOU TO PULL THE UPSET. IF YOU WIN THIS WILL BE THE GREATEST VICTORY IN PLANO HISTORY. IT WILL OVERSHADOW EVERY STATE CHAMPIONSHIP WIN AND EVERY OTHER OF THE 675 + VICTORIES PLANO HAS IN ITS HISTORY!

SEIZE THE DAY!!

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

I was in the band that year and we practiced on the field within a week after the fire. You could not see the RHS they tried to burn since the fire got out of control and incinerated over half the turf.

Ah memories. Anyone remember when the Highland Park kids came up and lynched the geese around our campus pond?

HOW ABOUT kIPS BIG BOY IN THE ISLAND OF POND IN 84!

[PaulinPlano]

that would be almost as fiscally responsible as building a roadblocked 20 million dollar stadium in a berg like murphy. who'd ever do such a silly thing?

It is called "Planning ahead". Unfortunaltely the county left the R.O.W.acquistion to Murphy so that has been going slow. The project has already been funded. Parker Road is almost finished to the North and FM 544 to the South was finished a few years back. Murphy Road will be 6 lane divided road that will hopefully be completed in 2 or 3 years.

I think it was great planning by the district. They got the most bang for the buck buying that property.

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

that would be almost as fiscally responsible as building a roadblocked 20 million dollar stadium in a berg like murphy. who'd ever do such a silly thing?

It was very fiscally responsible. The cost of Land to build a stadium in Plano West of 75 was outlandish due to lack of land. In fact the cost to buy just the land in West Plano would of cost the same as the entire build out at Kimbrough Stadium.

Sure its' a little out of the way. However, it looks like West and Plano will play only 1 game a year their and it has become the defacto home field for East. Which is perfect for them.

[dragonsdaddy]

It was very fiscally responsible. The cost of Land to build a stadium in Plano West of 75 was outlandish due to lack of land. In fact the cost to buy just the land in West Plano would of cost the same as the entire build out at Kimbrough Stadium.

Sure its' a little out of the way. However, it looks like West and Plano will play only 1 game a year their and it has become the defacto home field for East. Which is perfect for them.
so the fact that it sat empty for it's first year in existence was a responsible use of bond money? it was so ironic that allen and garland got to use it first.

[PaulinPlano]

so the fact that it sat empty for it's first year in existence was a responsible use of bond money? it was so ironic that allen and garland got to use it first.

It did not sit empty. I was built as a sub-varsity stadium. They use it to avoid Thursday night varsity games during the regular season since PISD has 3 high schools.

[dragonsdaddy]

i'm sure the school board meant to build a 20 million dollar jv and freshman stadium. obviously the city and school planners screwed up big time. it's ok to admit that. it is a beautiful facility, as long as you aren't in a hurry to get there or go home, or if you are going to the weekly freshman game.

[PaulinPlano]

i'm sure the school board meant to build a 20 million dollar jv and freshman stadium. obviously the city and school planners screwed up big time. it's ok to admit that. it is a beautiful facility, as long as you aren't in a hurry to get there or go home, or if you are going to the weekly freshman game.

It was built as an athletic complex! There are so many other uses for this complex other than football. As I have said before in this forum, Football in King in Southlake. You people have a one track mind.

It was built as a sub-varsity stadium. PISD has made incremental improvements to Clark Stadium. Clark is the Vasity Stadium in the district. Kimbrough is used when games conflict. Yes that was planned as well. Kimbrough only has about 2/3rds the capacity of Clark.

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

so the fact that it sat empty for it's first year in existence was a responsible use of bond money? it was so ironic that allen and garland got to use it first.

For a stadium that will be used for the next 100 years in Plano. I think is a responsible use of bond money regardless how it was used in its first year.

Clark Field was built in 1976 for 2.5 million. I think it has payed for itself many times over the last 29 years.

[dragonsdaddy]

For a stadium that will be used for the next 100 years in Plano. I think is a responsible use of bond money regardless how it was used in its first year.

Clark Field was built in 1976 for 2.5 million. I think it has payed for itself many times over the last 29 years.
good on ya. i certainly don't care how other tax payers spend their money. and besides it gave everyone a good laugh. what was the interest on that money borrowed during that first year?

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

good on ya. i certainly don't care how other tax payers spend their money. and besides it gave everyone a good laugh. what was the interest on that money borrowed during that first year?
Let me run down to PISD admin builing and do a quick audit of their finances and I will let you know later today! Thanks :D

[dragonsdaddy]

needless to say, the rhetorical question wasn't meant for an answer. also needless to say. it wasn't a paltry sum, and it was totally wasted as there were much cheaper and easier places for the jv and freshman games. i hope someone got fired over the boo-boo.

[dragonsdaddy]

It was built as an athletic complex! There are so many other uses for this complex other than football. As I have said before in this forum, Football in King in Southlake. You people have a one track mind.

It was built as a sub-varsity stadium. PISD has made incremental improvements to Clark Stadium. Clark is the Vasity Stadium in the district. Kimbrough is used when games conflict. Yes that was planned as well. Kimbrough only has about 2/3rds the capacity of Clark.
it's funny you believe that about the one track mind stuff, as our cross country girls just won a state championship and were invited to a national meet sponsered by nike. thanks for the segue. and our overall lone star cup numbers reflect that there may be more to slc than football.

[PaulinPlano]

good on ya. i certainly don't care how other tax payers spend their money. and besides it gave everyone a good laugh. what was the interest on that money borrowed during that first year?

Instead of insulting PISD, why don't you get your ISD to add on to that 4A stadium (though a very nice 4A stadium) you have at SL and stop charging your visitors to park in a school bus yard.

PISD plans ahead and tends to build facilities "when" they need them and not 5-10 years after they need them.

[WildcatFan]

it's funny you believe that about the one track mind stuff, as our cross country girls just won a state championship and were invited to a national meet sponsered by nike. thanks for the segue. and our overall lone star cup numbers reflect that there may be more to slc than football.

The only beef I had was even if they knew the road situation and planned on growth its not big enough.

Clark still seats more and if it is the defacto Home stadium for East which it will be East is the largest HS in texas with the smaller stadium...Go Figure.

I think its a wonderful complex and no doubt we needed a second, but why not as big or bigger than John Clark.

[dragonsdaddy]

Instead of insulting PISD, why don't you get your ISD to add on to that 4A stadium (though a very nice 4A stadium) you have at SL and stop charging your visitors to park in a school bus yard.

PISD plans ahead and tends to build facilities "when" they need them and not 5-10 years after they need them.
the visitor side had twice as much room as the orients needed, unless many of your faithful came dressed as empty bleacher seats. there have been 2 games in 5 years where there weren't enough visitor seats. sounds fairly accurately designed to me. i too wanted it bigger however.

[WildcatFan]

the visitor side had twice as much room as the orients needed, unless many of your faithful came dressed as empty bleacher seats. there have been 2 games in 5 years where there weren't enough visitor seats. sounds fairly accurately designed to me. i too wanted it bigger however.

I have to agree with you I have been to several SLC home games and although packed Dragon Stadium seemed adequte for most district games.

I believe PulinPlano is gauging his perception on the ESPN game with Denton Ryan when Dragon Stadium was busting at the seams. This game was special National TV coverage Big game between No. 1 & No. 2 what do you expect an avergae crowd.

No one can compare any of our stadiums in the Play-offs as the crowd draw is too much Clark is big but not that big.

I just wonder where we will go when Jerryworld is built in Arlington, I believe you mentioned the grass in another post.

If they ever tear down TS I guess we have to go to Ford or Fouts in Denton.

I think they could have made Kimbrough bigger I mean if you are spening that kind of money in the millions what's another 5000 seats.

[PaulinPlano]

the visitor side had twice as much room as the orients needed, unless many of your faithful came dressed as empty bleacher seats. there have been 2 games in 5 years where there weren't enough visitor seats. sounds fairly accurately designed to me. i too wanted it bigger however.

People know the parking and seating situation in advance and decide not to come based on that knowledge. When we played SLC at the beginning of the season, parking was a huge problem, people had to walk for blocks. We did not quite fill up the visitor side but it was close. How do you ever expect to have the visitor side filled when you have no parking and charge for the parking you do have? I am just answering the questions in this forum. I know these are issues everyone faces everywhere and I am sure all is being done that can be done. SL has a very impressive school district.

[PaulinPlano]

the visitor side had twice as much room as the orients needed, unless many of your faithful came dressed as empty bleacher seats. there have been 2 games in 5 years where there weren't enough visitor seats. sounds fairly accurately designed to me. i too wanted it bigger however.

And I know you have more class than that. :confused:

Someone may be offended by that remark. I know you probably mean't absolutley nothing by it but...

[dragonsdaddy]

And I know you have more class than that. :confused:

Someone may be offended by that remark. I know you probably mean't absolutley nothing by it but...
orient is defined as eastern, whereas occidental is western. i have always referred to the despised enemy as orients, because they are oriented on the eastern shores of plake plano. no racial disrespect intended. plenty of pesh disrespect however.

[reed35]

Does anybody know the reason for biulding Kimbrough where they did? and the reasoning?

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

Does anybody know the reason for biulding Kimbrough where they did? and the reasoning?

The cost of land in West Plano was way to expensive and their was limited areas large enough to accomodate the facility. Land in Murphy much more plentiful and about 1/5 the price.

[reed35]

so who will play there?

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

Back to the orginal post!!

Picked up my Plano tickets today at 4 PM at the ticket office and they had already sold 7000 for Plano only.

Should easily be 30,000 +. Hoping it stays that way at the end!!:D

[PESHfan]

so who will play there?


All of the High Schools and Senior Highs have games scheduled at both Clark Field and Kimbrough. Some of the Middle schools have also played at both fields as well.

With 3 Senior Highs, there were many weeks during the season where two of them had to be the home team that week. Before Kimbrough was opened up to Varsity, one of the two home games had to play on a Thursday.

Thursday is usually when all of our 10th grade teams play their games, so...... that meant we had a lot of those games either moved back to a Wednesday, or we had games starting as early as 5 or 6 in order to get two games played in one night. It's really tough to have 8 schools sharing one single stadium!

The opening of Kimbrough has greatly eased the scheduling nightmare. It's a pretty stadium, but it's just too dang far to drive. We live in the middle of Plano and it's nearly a 30 minute drive there.

[WildcatFan]

All of the High Schools and Senior Highs have games scheduled at both Clark Field and Kimbrough. Some of the Middle schools have also played at both fields as well.

With 3 Senior Highs, there were many weeks during the season where two of them had to be the home team that week. Before Kimbrough was opened up to Varsity, one of the two home games had to play on a Thursday.

Thursday is usually when all of our 10th grade teams play their games, so...... that meant we had a lot of those games either moved back to a Wednesday, or we had games starting as early as 5 or 6 in order to get two games played in one night. It's really tough to have 8 schools sharing one single stadium!

The opening of Kimbrough has greatly eased the scheduling nightmare. It's a pretty stadium, but it's just too dang far to drive. We live in the middle of Plano and it's nearly a 30 minute drive there.

Well if you go to East you must be on the border street of East and the Senior High I live in PSHS zone and it takes me 30 min. I am at Parker and Independence

[reed35]

seems with the location it would be home field for East.

[PawPower]

when are you going to upgrade the turf? it was bad when it was new, and it hasn't gotten any better. the old astroturf is an orthopedists delight.

good on ya. i certainly don't care how other tax payers spend their money. and besides it gave everyone a good laugh. what was the interest on that money borrowed during that first year?

Just had to clear a few things up on the Kimbrough discussion.

Need: Plano has eleven middle schools, five 9-10 high schools and three 11-12 schools. Even with all of the minor fields in town for middle school games, having only one stadium made scheduling a nightmare. Secondly, Plano wanted a facility setup for track in addition to football and soccer.

Location: Murphy site was selected due to lower land cost. Also the stadium separates the existing middle school from the future sixth, and final 9-10 high school to be built by PISD. This school will feed Plano East and will be built in the next 4 to 5 years.

Size: Clark’s official capacity is 14,200 to 14,800 depending on the source, though the record for a single game crowd is over 17,000. Kimbrough capacity is 9,800. Kimbrough’s home side is designed to have the exact same numbering scheme for reserved tickets as Clark (over 50% of home stand seats). Kimbrough’s reduced capacity is a result of Plano not seeing a need to spend money on larger stands when most visitors bring less than 2,000 fans, hence the visitors stands are less than half the size of Clark’s visitors stands. Kimbrough is designed by the same firm that built the Denton ISD complex and Waco stadium. It is designed to be expanded to be as large as Clark if necessary in the future. More info under "Plano Tradition" at http://www.planowildcats.org

Timing (NO WASTE): Kimbrough opened on time with the understanding that the adjacent streets would not be wide enough to accommodate varsity games for a couple of years. PISD did not care because of the need to support the 9-10 high school games which were held in the stadium the first year. Construction was scheduled to coincide with construction of adjacent middle school and actually saved PISD money (don't assume the worst about public servants without knowing the facts!)

Scheduling: Kimbrough will only be used for PISD against non-PISD varsity games. East wants to schedule as many of its games as possible in Kimbrough, Brence has made it clear he considers Clark Plano’s home field and wants to schedule as many of Plano’s games as possible in Clark.

Money: PISD under the Robin hood scheme has no incentive not to spend bond money as recapture allows tax funds to be used for bonds and reduce the amount of PISD’s recapture payment. Bond programs in PISD allow every school to be gutted and rebuilt when it reaches twenty years of age. PSHS received +20 million dollars in renovations over the past three years.

Clark’s future: Multi-million dollar renovation of Clark will be cared out over the next couple of years (funded through last bond election). When completed, Clark will be comparable to Kimbrough including the latest turf, upgraded press box, new score board, etc. Should make it one of the most impressive stadiums in the state once again. In addition, the Clark complex is getting two additional football fields with small stands to replace Rice field near downtown. PISD sold Rice to the city who sold it to a developer to build new $300K to $700K townhomes. Also, PSA and the City have plans and will probably announce next year the construction of PSA’s second indoor athletic center/Star Center adjacent to the Clark complex.

[PawPower]

Check out this article from Ft. Worth Star Telegram:

"IRVING -- It may be hard to find a fan base like the one currently following the Plano Wildcats.
Twenty-four minutes before Saturday’s Class 5A Division II Region I area-round game, Wildcats fans had already engulfed one side of Teas Stadium in a blanket of maroon.

Hundreds of others walked through a clogged concourse, and lines were deep with people waiting just to walk down the aisles to their seats.

This year has been one big party for Plano (12-0), a storied program that has won seven state titles and bounced back from a winless season two years ago.

“The city’s really rallied behind it,’’ said Jay Dinucci, a “Photo Dad” who was snapping pictures before the game. “It’s been pretty amazing. It’s been fun. You hate to see it end.

"You know it’s going to, but you hate to see it end.’’

As the band marched in on the field, fans waved their paw signs in unison. Another fan held up a blinking No. 1 neon sign that had “PLANO” printed down the numeral.

Those who weren’t at their seats already were in for trouble.

Plano resident Ben Elbel was among that group, but he was busy handing out paw signs until game time.

The large fan base has continually grown this season for Plano. Fans and coaches like to tell the story about a district game at Allen, which has a small stadium. Fans were warned to get there early.

When the team came out for its walk through before the game, Plano’s side was already packed.

“It’s been that way,’’ Elbel said. “Even at away games, we’ve had more people than the home team.’’

Before walking back to his seat to watch his son Tyler play Saturday night, Jim Cruz knew the night would have “a lot of electricity.’’

“Win or lose,’’ Cruz said, “they’ve had a good season.’’

It was a win, by the way: Plano 31, South Grand Prairie 24. "

http://http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/sp...l/13124667.htm

[PawPower]

Updated forecast - expect Plano to have 20,000+.

Little birdie updated me (no guarantees but usually good source of info). Plano ticket sales are running about 25% ahead of sales for the SGP game. Plano had about 17,000 for that game. That should make for at least 20,000 paw waving fans for the game.

[WildcatFan]

I heard yesterday that TS officially is opening up the second deck for this game.

If thats the case then we may have a record breaker on our hands.

[Butch Fifield]

No way will this be a record breaker.

Southlake isn't that big and Plano doesn't draw like they used to. 30-35K is about right.

[PawPower]

I heard yesterday that TS officially is opening up the second deck for this game.

If thats the case then we may have a record breaker on our hands.

I heard the same thing. I guess they think between the two schools and other curious types it will be a very large crowd.

[PawPower]

No way will this be a record breaker.

Southlake isn't that big and Plano doesn't draw like they used to. 30-35K is about right.

How many games have you been to this year?

I have followed Plano for over twenty years and the playoff crowds have been as big as any I remember.

[WildcatFan]

No way will this be a record breaker.

Southlake isn't that big and Plano doesn't draw like they used to. 30-35K is about right.

I think you are discounting the draw from other folks. I bet we get at least a couple thousand made up of folks from Irving, Keller, G'vine, SGP, Allen and even D. Ryan folks that will come to watch the game out of curiosity, plus those coming for the game after.

This is perhaps the best storybook game of the season. The best team in football vs. the cinderella underdog story of the year. It features two contrasting styles of play #1 Offense vs. #1 Defense, not to mention the Old vs. New tradition rivalry. Allthough this game features some newness about it, it also reeks of the old Texas HS spirit of the late 70's and 80's.

I also think due to the buzz you will get a bunch of alumni and folks who just like a good football game.

I mean come on let's face it the Big 12 game is not going to be that exciting considering Texas is going to kill the Buffs a Gazillion to 3

I could care less who you root for, I encourage everyone to come out to see if we can all be part of history, how cool would it be for a HS game to draw 50,000 in attendance

[dragonsdaddy]

50k will be tough to top.

[Butch Fifield]

How many games have you been to this year?

I have followed Plano for over twenty years and the playoff crowds have been as big as any I remember.

that is good to hear. i haven't been to any. i guess i am still thinking of the 90's vs. what we used to bring in the 70's & 80's.

but I have not seen any crowds from any teams like we used to bring back in the day. 49,000 is alot.

[PawPower]

50k will be tough to top.

See "Plano Tradition" at http://www.planowildcats.org

Plano holds record of over 49,000 for single game.

[Butch Fifield]

PawPower....

dragonsdaddy was a Plano QB. he was there at that game.

he is kinda like darth vader...

went to the darkside.

[dragonsdaddy]

See "Plano Tradition" at http://www.planowildcats.org

Plano holds record of over 49,000 for single game.
i was there. it was officially 49,980 i think.

[toonman]

I think you are discounting the draw from other folks. I bet we get at least a couple thousand made up of folks from Irving, Keller, G'vine, SGP, Allen and even D. Ryan folks that will come to watch the game out of curiosity, plus those coming for the game after.

This is perhaps the best storybook game of the season. The best team in football vs. the cinderella underdog story of the year. It features two contrasting styles of play #1 Offense vs. #1 Defense, not to mention the Old vs. New tradition rivalry. Allthough this game features some newness about it, it also reeks of the old Texas HS spirit of the late 70's and 80's.

I also think due to the buzz you will get a bunch of alumni and folks who just like a good football game.

I mean come on let's face it the Big 12 game is not going to be that exciting considering Texas is going to kill the Buffs a Gazillion to 3

I could care less who you root for, I encourage everyone to come out to see if we can all be part of history, how cool would it be for a HS game to draw 50,000 in attendance

This is your best ever post.

[PawPower]

that is good to hear. i haven't been to any. i guess i am still thinking of the 90's vs. what we used to bring in the 70's & 80's.

but I have not seen any crowds from any teams like we used to bring back in the day. 49,000 is alot.

You are probably right about topping 49K, but I would not be surprised if it tops 40K. See article on this year's crowds I posted at the top of this page. In Allen, their fans were absolutely dumbfounded by the size of the Plano crowd (I have a relative that lives there. He said the Allen fans at the game were talking about the Plano crowd). Also in Midland, we probably had around 8,000 (if their stadium really seats 15,000, which I have my doubts) and our crowd was larger than Midlands. The interstate was bumper-to-bumper with Plano cars and SUVs coming back on I-20. I may be wrong, but I do not believe Plano has played a game this year on the road or at home where we did not outnumber the other teams’ fans. The only one might be Allen due to their 4A class stadium.

[PawPower]

that is good to hear. i haven't been to any. i guess i am still thinking of the 90's vs. what we used to bring in the 70's & 80's.

but I have not seen any crowds from any teams like we used to bring back in the day. 49,000 is alot.


Butch this may make you feel better:

Article from Ft. Worth Star Telegram:

"IRVING -- It may be hard to find a fan base like the one currently following the Plano Wildcats.

Twenty-four minutes before Saturday’s Class 5A Division II Region I area-round game, Wildcats fans had already engulfed one side of Teas Stadium in a blanket of maroon.

Hundreds of others walked through a clogged concourse, and lines were deep with people waiting just to walk down the aisles to their seats.

This year has been one big party for Plano (12-0), a storied program that has won seven state titles and bounced back from a winless season two years ago.

“The city’s really rallied behind it,’’ said Jay Dinucci, a “Photo Dad” who was snapping pictures before the game. “It’s been pretty amazing. It’s been fun. You hate to see it end.

"You know it’s going to, but you hate to see it end.’’

As the band marched in on the field, fans waved their paw signs in unison. Another fan held up a blinking No. 1 neon sign that had “PLANO” printed down the numeral.

Those who weren’t at their seats already were in for trouble.

Plano resident Ben Elbel was among that group, but he was busy handing out paw signs until game time.

The large fan base has continually grown this season for Plano. Fans and coaches like to tell the story about a district game at Allen, which has a small stadium. Fans were warned to get there early.

When the team came out for its walk through before the game, Plano’s side was already packed.

“It’s been that way,’’ Elbel said. “Even at away games, we’ve had more people than the home team.’’

Before walking back to his seat to watch his son Tyler play Saturday night, Jim Cruz knew the night would have “a lot of electricity.’’

“Win or lose,’’ Cruz said, “they’ve had a good season.’’

It was a win, by the way: Plano 31, South Grand Prairie 24. "

http://http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/sp...l/13124667.htm

[reed35]

You are probably right about topping 49K, but I would not be surprised if it tops 40K. See article on this year's crowds I posted at the top of this page. In Allen, their fans were absolutely dumbfounded by the size of the Plano crowd (I have a relative that lives there. He said the Allen fans at the game were talking about the Plano crowd). Also in Midland, we probably had around 8,000 (if their stadium really seats 15,000, which I have my doubts) and our crowd was larger than Midlands. The interstate was bumper-to-bumper with Plano cars and SUVs coming back on I-20. I may be wrong, but I do not believe Plano has played a game this year on the road or at home where we did not outnumber the other teams’ fans. The only one might be Allen due to their 4A class stadium.
Allen's visitor side did not seem big enough to be 3-A. There is not much seating

[PawPower]

Allen's visitor side did not seem big enough to be 3-A. There is not much seating

True. I understand that the city of Allen and the school district looked at jointly funding a 15,000 seat stadium similar in design to Plano's Clark field. They decided that a joint project did not make sense for the city. The school district stated afterward that it will be approx. 10 years before they can afford to move forward with a new stadium. Too many new schools to fund for now. McKinney is in the same situation. They funded a bond election that included a new stadium, but had to divert the funds to build an elementary school instead. Plano is fortunate to have two nice facilities.

[reed35]

Mckiney is more capacity than Allen. Allen needs to do something, or people will be taking over their endzone seats

[PawPower]

Mckiney is more capacity than Allen. Allen needs to do something, or people will be taking over their endzone seats

Have you seen the plans for Clark?

A multi-million dollar renovation of Clark will be cared out over the next couple of years (funded through last bond election). When completed, Clark will be comparable to Kimbrough including the latest turf, upgraded press box, new score board, etc. Should make it one of the most impressive stadiums in the state once again.

In addition, the Clark complex is getting two additional football fields with small stands to replace Rice field near downtown. PISD sold Rice to the city who sold it to a developer to build new $300K to $700K townhomes.

Also, PSA and the City have plans and will probably announce next year the construction of PSA’s second indoor athletic center/Star Center adjacent to the Clark complex.

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

i was there. it was officially 49,980 i think.


ME to. My dad was really showing off his new CB proclaiming PLANO #! 10-4 GOOD BUDDY!!:D

True fan sits out in Jones Stadium when its 35 degress and the wind blowing at 20 mph and see plano beat MOJO 3-0 the weak earlier. That was a a game. :)

[PawPower]

ME to. My dad was really showing off his new CB proclaiming PLANO #! 10-4 GOOD BUDDY!!:D

True fan sits out in Jones Stadium when its 35 degress and the wind blowing at 20 mph and see plano beat MOJO 3-0 the weak earlier. That was a a game. :)

Seeing Plano beat MOJO in Odessa in 1994 10-7 was sweet also. I guess seeing Plano play MOJO is always sweet. We have never loss to them!

[PawPower]

ME to. My dad was really showing off his new CB proclaiming PLANO #! 10-4 GOOD BUDDY!!:D

True fan sits out in Jones Stadium when its 35 degress and the wind blowing at 20 mph and see plano beat MOJO 3-0 the weak earlier. That was a a game. :)

Wildcat Fan - you posted some messages about the stadiums yesterday. Are you aware of the plans for Clark?

A multi-million dollar renovation of Clark will be cared out over the next couple of years (funded through last bond election). When completed, Clark will be comparable to Kimbrough including the latest turf, upgraded press box, new score board, etc. Should make it one of the most impressive stadiums in the state once again. In addition, the Clark complex is getting two additional football fields with small stands to replace Rice field near downtown. PISD sold Rice to the city who sold it to a developer to build new $300K to $700K townhomes. Also, PSA and the City have plans and will probably announce next year the construction of PSA’s second indoor athletic center/Star Center adjacent to the Clark complex.

[dragons08]

Wildcat Fan - you posted some messages about the stadiums yesterday. Are you aware of the plans for Clark?

A multi-million dollar renovation of Clark will be cared out over the next couple of years (funded through last bond election). When completed, Clark will be comparable to Kimbrough including the latest turf, upgraded press box, new score board, etc. Should make it one of the most impressive stadiums in the state once again. In addition, the Clark complex is getting two additional football fields with small stands to replace Rice field near downtown. PISD sold Rice to the city who sold it to a developer to build new $300K to $700K townhomes. Also, PSA and the City have plans and will probably announce next year the construction of PSA’s second indoor athletic center/Star Center adjacent to the Clark complex.
that DP/7up center where the stars practice?

[PawPower]

that DP/7up center where the stars practice?

No it is located in Plano. Different from the Stars Center in Frisco. Plano Sports Authority built the center which includes multiple basketball courts, indoor soccor, ice hockey rink, etc. The Stars name was added to it after they agreed to operate the ice rink and make a donation to PSA. The center is one of the largest indoor youth sport facilities in the US

Go to this link for an article on PSA:

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/highschools/topstories/stories/072405dnspoyouthsports3.28aee7e.html

For a virtual tour, look on the right side of the web page from the link above. Below where it says "Part 2", click where it says "Interactive Tour of PSA Star Center" It is pretty neat.

[PawPower]

No it is located in Plano. Different from the Stars Center in Frisco. Plano Sports Authority built the center which includes multiple basketball courts, indoor soccor, ice hockey rink, etc. The Stars name was added to it after they agreed to operate the ice rink and make a donation to PSA. The center is one of the largest indoor youth sport facilities in the US

Go to this link for an article on PSA:

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/highschools/topstories/stories/072405dnspoyouthsports3.28aee7e.html

For a virtual tour, look on the right side of the web page from the link above. Below where it says "Part 2", click where it says "Interactive Tour of PSA Star Center" It is pretty neat.


Interesting note, the PSA Center had 2.5 million visitors last year. According the Dallas Morning News, that's more people than attended all of the Ranger's games at Ameriquest field in a season.

[dragonfootballfan]

Interesting note, the PSA Center had 2.5 million visitors last year. According the Dallas Morning News, that's more people than attended all of the Ranger's games at Ameriquest field in a season.
I have been there and it is amazing. I could not believe how awesome it was. Southlake needs one

[PawPower]

I have been there and it is amazing. I could not believe how awesome it was. Southlake needs one

The most amazing thing is that the initial building funds were raised by private donations by the citizens of Plano. The city donated the land.

The second one will be built near Clark Stadium and should be under construction next year.

[PawPower]

I have been there and it is amazing. I could not believe how awesome it was. Southlake needs one

It sets next to Jasper High School, one of Plano Sr. two feeder schools.

[dragons08]

I have been there and it is amazing. I could not believe how awesome it was. Southlake needs one
were building some new place, dont know what is, some indoor sports place, by albertsons, brook mays, Groves Ortho

[dragonfootballfan]

The most amazing thing is that the initial building funds were raised by private donations by the citizens of Plano. The city donated the land.

The second one will be built near Clark Stadium and should be under construction next year.
that is what I remember seeing when I was inside of it. I could not believe that the city did not even fund it. I was totally amazed and Plano really has something to be proud of in that facility

[dragonfootballfan]

were building some new place, dont know what is, some indoor sports place, by albertsons, brook mays, Groves Ortho
it is going to be an indoor soccer stadium I think

[PawPower]

that is what I remember seeing when I was inside of it. I could not believe that the city did not even fund it. I was totally amazed and Plano really has something to be proud of in that facility

Thanks! I'm pretty proud of PSA. My uncle was vice- president of PSA in its early years. They have over 32,000 kids participating now and almost $7 million in operating funds per year.

Great article on PSA itself at: http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/stories/073105dnspopsa.163d294.html

[PESHfan]

The most amazing thing is that the initial building funds were raised by private donations by the citizens of Plano. The city donated the land.

The second one will be built near Clark Stadium and should be under construction next year.


Where would they put such a facility near Clark Stadium? There's really not much room over there to build anything big.

[PawPower]

Where would they put such a facility near Clark Stadium? There's really not much room over there to build anything big.

They have negotiated a deal to use some of the space where one of the existing 8th grade football fields sits. They are building two new fields one near Clark the other just off Alma drive. One of these replaces Rice Field. The other will replace the existing field for where the new PSA center will go. I do not know the exact location of the new PSA center.

The city is also in the process of tearing down all of the old baseball fields and replacing them with new equipment. All of this plus the renovations about to be performed on Clark Stadium and the Clark Complex is going to be very impressive!

[Butch Fifield]

i remember playing soccer in the fields that became Collin Creek Mall and then at the corner of Preston & Park.

[PawPower]

i remember playing soccer in the fields that became Collin Creek Mall and then at the corner of Preston & Park.

Have you been to Plano in the last few years? The city built a huge new sports field north of Hedgecoxe. Largest baseball complex in the city and by Rice middle school they built a new soccer complex. Even with all the growth they always seem to be ahead in building and updating facilities.

[PawPower]

Anyone see this in the DMN today?:

Big crowd won't include Plano coach's wife

Plano coach Gerald Brence's wife, Liz, will not be one of the 35,000 or so fans to flock to Texas Stadium to see the 5A Division II Region I final Saturday. She'll be at Philadelphia's Lincoln Financial Field for the Army-Navy game.

Ryan Brence, a senior on his father's 0-10 team two seasons ago, is a sophomore reserve defensive back for Army. Gerald Brence attended the Army-Navy game with his wife last year, when Plano missed the playoffs for the third consecutive season.

"I'm not coming back next year," Brence told his wife, "because we're still going to be playing."

Strange for Plano to play without her there. I sat in front of her at the Flower Mound game. A really nice lady! I also thought the predicted number of fans is a little low.

[PawPower]

Plano's pep rally is underway!

Word is that it's standing room only - huge crowd, including a lot of members from the community other than parents!

Way to go Wildcats!

[yankee]

Plano's pep rally is underway!

Word is that it's standing room only - huge crowd, including a lot of members from the community other than parents!

Way to go Wildcats!
Congratulations?:confused:

[mojo61]

Ummm, Plano is not a one high school town like it was when we were packing 40,000 plus into Texas Stadium in 1977 - the Highland Park quarterfinals, Permian semifinals, and the state final against Port Neches Grove, which set an attendance record that still stands.

That '75 Per./Pt. Neches-Grove game sure brings up a great fb memory. I was there as a fan, & TS sure looked about as full as it could hold. The Per. place kicker was Russell Wheatley, & he missed a couple of chip shot fg's of 40 & 50 yrds., but it wouldn't have changed the outcome of the game (he kicked a 62-yrd. fg in a prev. game). It was always fun to watch him kicking long fg.'s in the pre-game warmups.

I hope Plano beats SLC, but after watching both teams within 18 hrs. last weekend, I doubt very seriously Plano will win. However, I wish Plano luck; I've always liked Plano & just wish we could have beaten them once back in the old days, but the games were always close & entertaining.

Yes, I think Plano's crowd was as lg. as Midland's. I think the Plano crowd is the loudest one I've seen in awhile--they're great fans. SLC's fans didn't yell much Fri. night, but I guess they didn't need to. I'm sure Plano can do better than 52-0, though. Good luck, wildcats. SLC is very impressive, but of course, even great teams can be beaten. I remember in 1970 that everyone was predicting that Per. would be slaughtered in the playoffs by Wichita Falls, & Per. won that one, so a tremendous underdog does sometimes win, you just got to have faith in your team, & I know that Plano's team has confidence in themselves & in their fans.

It should be a great game--I hope it does break an atten. record, but it just seems like (out here, anyway) that people just don't attend hs fb games like they used to. There was a time when I think Per. would have brought 30k+ to a game like the SLC/Ab. game last weekend. People don't attend that well anymore--too many other things to do, I guess.

I really don't know which team to root for tom.--both have great traditions. I think everyone wants to see a team like SLC that has won so many games get beaten--it's human nature. I know a few yrs. ago that many people wanted to see Per. get beaten because Per. had been to the playoffs so often, so I know how SLC fans must feel @ times. It's sure going to be hard for Plano to beat SLC, though--& that's a pretty big understatement!

[PawPower]

That '75 Per./Pt. Neches-Grove game sure brings up a great fb memory. I was there as a fan, & TS sure looked about as full as it could hold. The Per. place kicker was Russell Wheatley, & he missed a couple of chip shot fg's of 40 & 50 yrds., but it wouldn't have changed the outcome of the game (he kicked a 62-yrd. fg in a prev. game). It was always fun to watch him kicking long fg.'s in the pre-game warmups.

I hope Plano beats SLC, but after watching both teams within 18 hrs. last weekend, I doubt very seriously Plano will win. However, I wish Plano luck; I've always liked Plano & just wish we could have beaten them once back in the old days, but the games were always close & entertaining.

Yes, I think Plano's crowd was as lg. as Midland's. I think the Plano crowd is the loudest one I've seen in awhile--they're great fans. SLC's fans didn't yell much Fri. night, but I guess they didn't need to. I'm sure Plano can do better than 52-0, though. Good luck, wildcats. SLC is very impressive, but of course, even great teams can be beaten. I remember in 1970 that everyone was predicting that Per. would be slaughtered in the playoffs by Wichita Falls, & Per. won that one, so a tremendous underdog does sometimes win, you just got to have faith in your team, & I know that Plano's team has confidence in themselves & in their fans.

It should be a great game--I hope it does break an atten. record, but it just seems like (out here, anyway) that people just don't attend hs fb games like they used to. There was a time when I think Per. would have brought 30k+ to a game like the SLC/Ab. game last weekend. People don't attend that well anymore--too many other things to do, I guess.

I really don't know which team to root for tom.--both have great traditions. I think everyone wants to see a team like SLC that has won so many games get beaten--it's human nature. I know a few yrs. ago that many people wanted to see Per. get beaten because Per. had been to the playoffs so often, so I know how SLC fans must feel @ times. It's sure going to be hard for Plano to beat SLC, though--& that's a pretty big understatement!

You hit on something important. Plano believes in their tradition, history, their fans. No team will have ever played SLC with more confidence going into the game than Plano. A lot of people do not get that. Plano thrives in situations like this when they are the underdog.

Just curious, how well did all of those Paws come across on the other side of the field at the Midland game?

[dragonfootballfan]

You hit on something important. Plano believes in their tradition, history, their fans. No team will have ever played SLC with more confidence going into the game than Plano. A lot of people do not get that. Plano thrives in situations like this when they are the underdog.

Just curious, how well did all of those Paws come across on the other side of the field at the Midland game?
I don't think that they will have more confidence than the defending state champions in 2002 or if Katy were to meet Carroll in the finals this year.

For the attendance. I heard that the buzz around Southlake is this game is going to break records for attendance with over 50,000 people. I think that the tradition of Plano and how well they travel is making for a potential record breaking day that all Carroll and all Plano fans want to be a part of. Sadly I will be listening to my computer tomorrow as I am not able to attend the game.

[yankee]

I don't think that they will have more confidence than the defending state champions in 2002 or if Katy were to meet Carroll in the finals this year.

For the attendance. I heard that the buzz around Southlake is this game is going to break records for attendance with over 50,000 people. I think that the tradition of Plano and how well they travel is making for a potential record breaking day that all Carroll and all Plano fans want to be a part of. Sadly I will be listening to my computer tomorrow as I am not able to attend the game.
i seriously doubt 50,000 will come to the game. in today's society, there's too much going on to go to a hs football game. and its also the first game played sat. at ts stadium.

[mojo61]

Just curious, how well did all of those Paws come across on the other side of the field at the Midland game?

Very impressive in sight & sound. That Plano crowd reminded me of the good ole days. That's why it was so exciting to play you guys. I don't know if this is a compliment to ya'll or not, but playing ya'll back in the old days was like looking @ a mirror image of ourselves: the team, the fans, even the "P" on the helments (back during that time).

Like I said in my prev. post, even big underdogs can win against teams that they have no chance in h_ _ _ of beating. One more thing about the game w/ the big 50k crowd in TS in '75. Per. had no business ever reaching the st. finals that yr. That great fg kicker was just about the only off. we had during that season. I don't think Per. was favored in any playoff game that yr. Sure, SLC has the better team, on paper, but the better team doesn't always win. Ya'll hang in there. Someone will beat SLC sooner or later; it might as well be ya'll.

BTW, some of the comments about the Ab. crowd walking out: yeah, that sure hurt me to see that, but I guess some people were so disgusted by Ab.'s performance that they couldn't take it. I'm pretty sure EP Franklin could have played SLC a better game. If Plano does start losing by alot, I hope the majority of your fans don't walk out like that early in the 3rd qtr.(I'm sure they won't after seeing the Plano crowd in Ab. last Sat.) It was pretty disgusting for us to see the big walkout happening--worse to me than what was happening on the fld. I don't remember that happening w/ Per. crowds back in the old days. It might have happened when Houston Yates blew out Per. by 38-0 or something back in the mid-80's (the yr. dates for some of the games gets pretty mixed up in my memory @ this late date). I wasnt' @ that one, but I couldn't imagine a Per. crowd doing that back then (they might now, but not back in the day). I can't come to the game, but I'll prob. listen to it--it will be alot more int. to me than the UT game.

[dragonsdaddy]

my memory may not be the greatest, but for the life of me, i don't remember plano having any emblem on their helmets, ever.

[reed35]

my memory may not be the greatest, but for the life of me, i don't remember plano having any emblem on their helmets, ever.
my memory says Plano never had anything on the helmet.

[PawPower]

my memory says Plano never had anything on the helmet.

My understanding from my uncle, who knew Plano's history very well, in over a hundred years Plano has used nothing but its traditional white helments.

[PawPower]

I don't think that they will have more confidence than the defending state champions in 2002 or if Katy were to meet Carroll in the finals this year.

For the attendance. I heard that the buzz around Southlake is this game is going to break records for attendance with over 50,000 people. I think that the tradition of Plano and how well they travel is making for a potential record breaking day that all Carroll and all Plano fans want to be a part of. Sadly I will be listening to my computer tomorrow as I am not able to attend the game.

How many fans did SLC have at the last game at TS?

Do you think more people are going to this game?

[PawPower]

Very impressive in sight & sound. That Plano crowd reminded me of the good ole days. That's why it was so exciting to play you guys. I don't know if this is a compliment to ya'll or not, but playing ya'll back in the old days was like looking @ a mirror image of ourselves: the team, the fans, even the "P" on the helments (back during that time).

Like I said in my prev. post, even big underdogs can win against teams that they have no chance in h_ _ _ of beating. One more thing about the game w/ the big 50k crowd in TS in '75. Per. had no business ever reaching the st. finals that yr. That great fg kicker was just about the only off. we had during that season. I don't think Per. was favored in any playoff game that yr. Sure, SLC has the better team, on paper, but the better team doesn't always win. Ya'll hang in there. Someone will beat SLC sooner or later; it might as well be ya'll.

BTW, some of the comments about the Ab. crowd walking out: yeah, that sure hurt me to see that, but I guess some people were so disgusted by Ab.'s performance that they couldn't take it. I'm pretty sure EP Franklin could have played SLC a better game. If Plano does start losing by alot, I hope the majority of your fans don't walk out like that early in the 3rd qtr.(I'm sure they won't after seeing the Plano crowd in Ab. last Sat.) It was pretty disgusting for us to see the big walkout happening--worse to me than what was happening on the fld. I don't remember that happening w/ Per. crowds back in the old days. It might have happened when Houston Yates blew out Per. by 38-0 or something back in the mid-80's (the yr. dates for some of the games gets pretty mixed up in my memory @ this late date). I wasnt' @ that one, but I couldn't imagine a Per. crowd doing that back then (they might now, but not back in the day). I can't come to the game, but I'll prob. listen to it--it will be alot more int. to me than the UT game.


You can listen over the internet at this link:

http://www.planowildcats.org/

Click on "Listen Live!"

[Plano8687]

I know the game is @ 1pm but, does anyone happen to know when Texas Stadium opens it's doors to the fans. I'll be there early but, don't want to make it TOO early....

Thanks.

[PawPower]

I know the game is @ 1pm but, does anyone happen to know when Texas Stadium opens it's doors to the fans. I'll be there early but, don't want to make it TOO early....

Thanks.

Here's the email from PISD:

"ATTENTION ALL FORMER WILDCAT FOOTBALL PLAYERS!

We are looking for ALL former Wildcat Football Players to attend the game Saturday at Texas Stadium. The game is at 1 PM. We will be playing South Lake Carroll in the Regional Division II Playoff.

Wear your Letter Jacket and meet with Mr. Davis in Section 2 at 12:30 pm.
After gathering, Mr. Davis will take you down on the field to form a “Run Through” for the boys!

Please pass along this information to other players. We want to make an impressive showing at this great event on Saturday. Don’t forget your Letter Jacket.

TICKET INFORMATION

Tickets (all seats are general admission) will be available in the front office of PSHS:
Thursday 8 AM – 4:30 PM and Friday 8 AM – 10:30 AM.

Tickets will also be sold at CLARK FIELD, 6600 Stadium Drive (Near Clark High School).
Thursday 9 AM – 4:30 PM, and Friday 9 AM – 1 PM.

Tickets are $6 for students and $8 for adults. Tickets are not limited.
All tickets at the stadium will be $10.
Parking is $5

Enter the stadium at Gate 3.

The parking lots will open at 10 AM and the gates will open at 11 AM.

PEP RALLY FRIDAY

Everyone is welcome to attend the Pep Rally, Friday December 2 at 8:55 AM in the gym. Please park in the student lot and go directly to the gym.

LISTEN LIVE

Not able to attend the game? Listen live at game time Online at k-12.pisd.edu/wcat.

Planning on attending the game? Listen to the play-by-play in the stadium on FM 104.7.



To unsubscribe, log onto the elist Web site at http://elist.pisd.edu and go to the Summary page and select the unsubscribe option. (Note: In order to change your e-mail address, you must first unsubscribe and then re-subscribe using your new e-mail address.)"

[Dragonuncle]

There were 35K at the Abilene game last year and that was the early game. We can get more this time if everyone will show that says their going to.

[BAMF cowboy]

How many fans did SLC have at the last game at TS?

Do you think more people are going to this game?

the last game at TS was a disappointing turnout for dragon nation. i'd say maybe only 11,000 - 12,000. expect a lot more this weekend. I hope for our sake we get up to 17,000+....we'll need it

[Plano8687]

Isn't the largest attendance for a playoff game still 49,953?

State Championship game in 1977 between Plano and Port Neches.

[PawPower]

Isn't the largest attendance for a playoff game still 49,953?

State Championship game in 1977 between Plano and Port Neches.

Yes.

See tradition at : http://www.planowildcats.org

[PawPower]

There were 35K at the Abilene game last year and that was the early game. We can get more this time if everyone will show that says their going to.

Plano will do its part.

Estimate for Plano’s game against SGP is that Plano had approximately 17,000 fans. I heard yesterday that PISD ticket sells this week are running at a higher rate than for the SGP game.

Plano faithful will be there in force. I have a friend who is driving up from Austin with his girl friend for the game. A co-worker's parents from Wyoming are flying in just for this game (have not been to Plano game in three years). They made their reservations only last Sunday. Middle school kids in my neighborhood are decked out in maroon!

I also heard there were around 4,000 fans at the pep rally. That’s above average. Typical is probably 3,000.

I just hope the college games do not get in the way.

[BAMF cowboy]

well arent Texas - Colorado and UCLA - USC both night games?

And i don't know if Army - Navy will draw that big of a crowd....

[Plano_8687]

Texas @ Colorado - 1:00pm

UCLA @ USC - 4:30pm

EST

[PawPower]

the last game at TS was a disappointing turnout for dragon nation. i'd say maybe only 11,000 - 12,000. expect a lot more this weekend. I hope for our sake we get up to 17,000+....we'll need it

If you guys only have 11 to 12K we will out number you 2 to 1!

I hope both sides have huge crowds, it makes it more fun for everyone!

[dragonfootballfan]

Texas vs. Colorado is at the same time as Carroll and Plano. People already think that they know the outcome to that one already so I do not think that it will hurt attendance

[Plano_8687]

More than likely they'll broadcast the score.

Plano might not win......but Texas BETTER!!!!

[BAMF cowboy]

If you guys only have 11 to 12K we will out number you 2 to 1!

I hope both sides have huge crowds, it makes it more fun for everyone!

dont worry, we wont let you down

[PawPower]

dont worry, we wont let you down


Plano's Christmas parade is Sat. morning. Hmm??? Which should I go to? Hard choice.

Wylie just announced that they are rescheduling their Christmas parade because of their football team's playoff game. Plano should do the same, but we've grown too big and sophisticated for our own good. Disadvantage of team from a city of 245,000 vs. team from small town of 30,000.

[Plano_8687]

Can some TIVO the Parade for me?

[PawPower]

In some ways things do not change even with growth. I went into the grocery this week and most of the employees had Wildcat shirts on. That's cool!

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

Plano will do its part.

Estimate for Plano’s game against SGP is that Plano had approximately 17,000 fans. I heard yesterday that PISD ticket sells this week are running at a higher rate than for the SGP game.

Plano faithful will be there in force. I have a friend who is driving up from Austin with his girl friend for the game. A co-worker's parents from Wyoming are flying in just for this game (have not been to Plano game in three years). They made their reservations only last Sunday. Middle school kids in my neighborhood are decked out in maroon!

I also heard there were around 4,000 fans at the pep rally. That’s above average. Typical is probably 3,000.

I just hope the college games do not get in the way.

Numbers are a little off. The total Attendance for SGP and PLano was around 17000, Plano roughly had endzone to endzone coverage in the lower bowl. That does not equal 17,000 in Texas Stadium. Plano had no more than 10K fans At SGP and about 6000 fans at Abilene. Tomorrow maximium attendance will be 33,000. Everyone expected 30,000 for Ennis and HP they got 20,000. The attendance record from 1977 is safe.

[hollywood]

Numbers are a little off. The total Attendance for SGP and PLano was around 17000, Plano roughly had endzone to endzone coverage in the lower bowl. That does not equal 17,000 in Texas Stadium. Plano had no more than 10K fans At SGP and about 6000 fans at Abilene. Tomorrow maximium attendance will be 33,000. Everyone expected 30,000 for Ennis and HP they got 20,000. The attendance record from 1977 is safe.

I am hearing they will open the upper level. They said on THE TICKET that they are going to open up the upper deck tomorrow. This is from a friend I am aiming.

[PawPower]

I am hearing they will open the upper level. They said on THE TICKET that they are going to open up the upper deck tomorrow. This is from a friend I am aiming.

Talked to a friend a few minutes ago. He said WBAP today said this game will be the biggest of the high school football season and that Texas Stadium had announced that they are anticipating opening the upper level.

[hollywood]

Talked to a friend a few minutes ago. He said WBAP today said this game will be the biggest of the high school football season and that Texas Stadium had announced that they are anticipating opening the upper level.

Well, that does it then. We plan to be there around 11am.
Hope that is soon enough!

[PawPower]

Well, that does it then. We plan to be there around 11am.
Hope that is soon enough!

My aunt taught at Plano for over 20 years and she is going to the game tomorrow. She told me a story about one of Plano's playoff games in the past at TS. She said her and my uncle arrived two hours before kickoff and the entire lower section on the Plano side was full. They ended up sitting in the upper level. Two hours before the game - imagine that. I do not think it will be that crowded tomorrow two hours before, but who knows?

[PaulinPlano]

Sweet!
:)

[Butch Fifield]

Texas vs. Colorado is at the same time as Carroll and Plano.

I was at Texas Stadium last year for some playoff games during the Texas-Kansas game where Texas had to come back in the last minute and win.

Several of us stood just below the suites where people were watching the Texas game. We got to see the comeback.

I would recommend sitting in that area to anyone wanting to keep track of that game.

[dragons08]

that post didnt waste any time scrolling through it..:rolleyes:

[crwdude]

On the High School Scoreboard show on FOX SportsNet, they are saying that 50,000 expected for the game............everyone better get there as early as possible!!!!

[SanAngeloBobcat]

Radio broadcast just said it looked like the lower bowl at Texas Stadium will be full by game time, which means they will open the upper deck as the Wylie-Hebron fans begin to arrive