Big Bad Florida St......

[Texasfrog]

Farmer Fan & Junkie !!!! Remember what I told you two about 2 montsh ago ??!! Looks like ole stupid me was spot on about the mighty "highly over-rated" Florida St huh.

They just got "SPANKED" by Univ-Florida. Thank God Florida gave them a couple of respectful tds late in the game when they were playing off and soft.

Do you still think Tx A&M would get "smoked" or even beat by Tx A&M ? Hell, after seeing A&M yesterday I would say that A&M would beat Florida St.

That's saying alot because I pretty much "hate" A&M but they would beat Florida St.

Florida St is living off "past reputation" and alot of national respect for Coach Bowden and that's pretty much it.

PS.. JUNKIE,,, Florida St can say bye bye to the top #25 huh..

Remember when you were screaming and yelling say freaking much about how they were great and they were a top #10 team !!! Hahahahahahaha..
This is for everyone... who would win out of Tx A&M vs Florida St ? I predict A&M by 7.

If the game was at Kyle Field.. A&M by about 14.

[yankee]

yeah, proves that florida is a good team too.

[farmerfan]

Farmer Fan & Junkie !!!! Remember what I told you two about 2 montsh ago ??!! Looks like ole stupid me was spot on about the mighty "highly over-rated" Florida St huh.

They just got "SPANKED" by Univ-Florida. Thank God Florida gave them a couple of respectful tds late in the game when they were playing off and soft.

Do you still think Tx A&M would get "smoked" or even beat by Tx A&M ? Hell, after seeing A&M yesterday I would say that A&M would beat Florida St.

That's saying alot because I pretty much "hate" A&M but they would beat Florida St.

Florida St is living off "past reputation" and alot of national respect for Coach Bowden and that's pretty much it.

PS.. JUNKIE,,, Florida St can say bye bye to the top #25 huh..

Remember when you were screaming and yelling say freaking much about how they were great and they were a top #10 team !!! Hahahahahahaha..
This is for everyone... who would win out of Tx A&M vs Florida St ? I predict A&M by 7.

If the game was at Kyle Field.. A&M by about 14.


great call on nebraska and colorado finishing in the top 25, which aint happening. Hey you also missed badly on Iowa State considering they just lost to freaking Kansas. you got one call and want to pat yourself on the back without realizing you missed on colorado, nebraska as well as Iowa State.

[FootballJunkie]

Farmer Fan & Junkie !!!! Remember what I told you two about 2 montsh ago ??!! Looks like ole stupid me was spot on about the mighty "highly over-rated" Florida St huh.

They just got "SPANKED" by Univ-Florida. Thank God Florida gave them a couple of respectful tds late in the game when they were playing off and soft.

Do you still think Tx A&M would get "smoked" or even beat by Tx A&M ? Hell, after seeing A&M yesterday I would say that A&M would beat Florida St.

That's saying alot because I pretty much "hate" A&M but they would beat Florida St.

Florida St is living off "past reputation" and alot of national respect for Coach Bowden and that's pretty much it.

PS.. JUNKIE,,, Florida St can say bye bye to the top #25 huh..

Remember when you were screaming and yelling say freaking much about how they were great and they were a top #10 team !!! Hahahahahahaha..
This is for everyone... who would win out of Tx A&M vs Florida St ? I predict A&M by 7.

If the game was at Kyle Field.. A&M by about 14.


I will put it to you like this. FSU played as bad as they possibly could against Florida. A@M played the best they could against UT. Guess what FSU still beats A@M by 2TD's. They are bad and will back into the ACC championship. Just as Colorado will. Guess it is just the way it is this year.

PS. FSU out of top 25 is fine we will still have 5 other ACC teams still their:D

[Texasfrog]

I will put it to you like this. FSU played as bad as they possibly could against Florida. A@M played the best they could against UT. Guess what FSU still beats A@M by 2TD's. They are bad and will back into the ACC championship. Just as Colorado will. Guess it is just the way it is this year.

PS. FSU out of top 25 is fine we will still have 5 other ACC teams still their:D

Your still 100% sure that FSU would beat Tx A&M huh....???? Ya, right !!! Keep dreaming... Like I've stated for about a month. It would be a toss-up game at the least. The team with "Homefield" would probably win because both teams are about even.

Second.. you're also 100% sure that the ACC will have 5 teams in the final (AP 25 or BCS) ?? We'll see...

Anyway, so much for all that FSU top #10 crap you spoutted for months huh..?? Hell, so much for them even being a top #25.

If FSU is in the top #25 after this week I'll declare that Congress have an official investigation.. Honestly !!!

[FootballJunkie]

Your still 100% sure that FSU would beat Tx A&M huh....???? Ya, right !!! Keep dreaming... Like I've stated for about a month. It would be a toss-up game at the least. The team with "Homefield" would probably win because both teams are about even.

Second.. you're also 100% sure that the ACC will have 5 teams in the final (AP 25 or BCS) ?? We'll see...

Anyway, so much for all that FSU top #10 crap you spoutted for months huh..?? Hell, so much for them even being a top #25.

If FSU is in the top #25 after this week I'll declare that Congress have an official investigation.. Honestly !!!

Well FSU is out and If the BIG XII has more than 2 teams in... it will TAKE an act of congress:D

[Texasfrog]

Well FSU is out and If the BIG XII has more than 2 teams in... it will TAKE an act of congress:D

Big-12 might have 3. Wouldnt surprise me to see Oklahoma sneak up into the #25 barely. It will be close.

Ga Tech might get dropped.

Do you still think the ACC is heads and toes ahead of the Big-12 ?? I dont.

I think teams like Colorado, Iowa St, Mizzou, Nebraska & Tx Tech can hang with teams like Ga Tech, Clemson, Nc State, Virginia and FSU on any given Saturday.

I also think teams like Kansas and Baylor would smoke the crap out of teams like Duke & Wake Forest.

Hell... I think from top to bottom the Big-12 is better then the ACC. I know the national press core wouldnt say that.

I think Nebraska is might play FSU in a Bowl. Nebraska will spank the "A".

[Owned05]

great call on that nebraska and colorado finishing in the top, which aint happening. Hey you also missed badly on Iowa State considering they just lost to freaking Kansas. you got one call and want to pat yourself on the back without realizing you missed on colorado, nebraska as well as Iowa State.

Just wondering why frog hasn't responded to this. He commented on what junkie had to say, but won't touch this.

Wonder why.

[FootballJunkie]

Big-12 might have 3. Wouldnt surprise me to see Oklahoma sneak up into the #25 barely. It will be close.

Ga Tech might get dropped.

Do you still think the ACC is heads and toes ahead of the Big-12 ?? I dont.

I think teams like Colorado, Iowa St, Mizzou, Nebraska & Tx Tech can hang with teams like Ga Tech, Clemson, Nc State, Virginia and FSU on any given Saturday.

I also think teams like Kansas and Baylor would smoke the crap out of teams like Duke & Wake Forest.

Hell... I think from top to bottom the Big-12 is better then the ACC. I know the national press core wouldnt say that.

I think Nebraska is might play FSU in a Bowl. Nebraska will spank the "A".


ACC 8 Bowl teams out of 12 this year!! Minimum 4 ranked possible 5 in top 25 with still 2 in the top 10. Ill take that until bowl season is over then we will see who has the best bowl record!!!

DUKE and Wake forest not bowl eliglible so why are they the ones you pick to challenge??

Iowa St and Colorado have shown their true colors the past 2 days don't ya think;)

[Texasfrog]

ACC 8 Bowl teams out of 12 this year!! Minimum 4 ranked possible 5 in top 25 with still 2 in the top 10. Ill take that until bowl season is over then we will see who has the best bowl record!!!

DUKE and Wake forest not bowl eliglible so why are they the ones you pick to challenge??

Iowa St and Colorado have shown their true colors the past 2 days don't ya think;)

Just like Clemson, NC State, NC, Ga Tech and Maryland have shown their true colors over the coarse of the season.

I see that your having a big problem swallowing the pill. You harped for about a "MONTH" on how great FSU was and how they were a top #10 team "NUFF SAID" right.. Remember that crap ??

Who told you that FSU was over-rated?? NUFF SAID huh.. Bye bye #25.

We'll see how they look when one of those no good Big-12 teams that you've been knocking down for months plays them in the Bowl. Looks like Nebraska.

Remember all the times you've knocked Nebraska this season..... and claimed they were just another weak "so so" Big-12 team. We'll see how they do because it looks like they'll be playing the awesome powerful (ACC) Florida St in a bowl game in FSU backyard (Orlando) to boot.

NUFF SAID right...

Oh ya... this is a sorry Big-12 (North) Nebraska that gave Wake Forest (ACC) the biggest beating of the year I believe.

[Texasfrog]

ACC 8 Bowl teams out of 12 this year!! Minimum 4 ranked possible 5 in top 25 with still 2 in the top 10. Ill take that until bowl season is over then we will see who has the best bowl record!!!

DUKE and Wake forest not bowl eliglible so why are they the ones you pick to challenge??

Iowa St and Colorado have shown their true colors the past 2 days don't ya think;)

Baylor's not Bowl eliglble either and they would spank Duke and Wake Forest.

Rankings ??? Alot of those same rankers (voters) had FSU in the top #10 most of the season right.. NUFF SAID.

[businesstron]

I'm a jump in and be real on this. The ACC is probably a better a conference BUT not by a lot. If you look at the Atlantic side of the ACC and the Big 12 north their situations are almost identical(almost the same records). It seemed like NOONE wanted to go to the ACC championship on that side. Out of those 5 teams ranked FSU,BC and Clemson don't really deserve that ranking. They are kind of on Par with those Big 12 north teams(in my opinion...and almost record wise). The thing is there is probably a little east coast media bias(thought I'd never say that). When The ACC teams beat on themselves it's a "Tough" conference, when the same thing happens in the Big 12 North it's a "weak" conference. Oh well I can't wait till they annouce the bowl line ups maybe that'll straighten some things out.

[Texasfrog]

I'm a jump in and be real on this. The ACC is probably a better a conference BUT not by a lot. If you look at the Atlantic side of the ACC and the Big 12 north their situations are almost identical(almost the same records). It seemed like NOONE wanted to go to the ACC championship on that side. Out of those 5 teams ranked FSU,BC and Clemson don't really deserve that ranking. They are kind of on Par with those Big 12 north teams(in my opinion...and almost record wise). The thing is there is probably a little east coast media bias(thought I'd never say that). When The ACC teams beat on themselves it's a "Tough" conference, when the same thing happens in the Big 12 North it's a "weak" conference. Oh well I can't wait till they annouce the bowl line ups maybe that'll straighten some things out.

You hit things right on the nail. I've been telling Junkie & Famerfan almost that exact same thing all season. When other Conferences do something (Big-10) or (ACC) its because its the those Conferences. But, when the Big-12 does something its because its not really good blah blah blah.

Also.. I've mentioned the West Coast and East coast bias stuff and its 100% legit. The Left coast and Right coast are always going to get more press coverage and 95% of the time its going to be in a positvie light on whatever subject or team their talking about from that coast.

Your also 100% correct.. I've mentioned to them before that the ACC might be just a "TAD" better but its a very small "TAD".

Teams like Clemson, Ga Tech, Virginia, FSU, NC State arent any better then teams like Iowa St, Colorado, Nebraska, Mizzou, Oklahoma. Toss up games between those teams.

Baylor, Tx A&M and Kansas (IMO) are better then Wake Forest, Duke, North Carolina and even Maryland.

So, this whole knocking all year about the Big-12 Conference is weak and pathetic. Its all of BS because the Big-12 is basically right on par with the ACC.

[Texasfrog]

ACC 8 Bowl teams out of 12 this year!! Minimum 4 ranked possible 5 in top 25 with still 2 in the top 10. Ill take that until bowl season is over then we will see who has the best bowl record!!!

DUKE and Wake forest not bowl eliglible so why are they the ones you pick to challenge??

Iowa St and Colorado have shown their true colors the past 2 days don't ya think;)

Ya,,, so much for Miami win against Colorado (in Miami) 23-3 huh.

I mean when a team like Nebraska can travel to Colorado and beat them worse. Of coarse Nebraska already destroyed one ACC team like a beat up dog this season.

This is the same Nebraska team that you've "put down" almost all season as a sorry no good (Big-12 North) team. We'll see how FSU does against them.

I told you Nebraska was a pretty salty team after they had Tx Tech on the ropes. Of coarse to your (ACC) mind it clearly showed that Tx Tech wasnt that good.

I mean going to Nebraska (like Tx Tech did) and beating them on their field in Lincoln is a walk in the park right (in your mind). I mean 10 of the 12 ACC teams would easily do that right......

Also... your point about 8 of the 12 ACC teams being Bowl teams.. congrats.

I believe 8 of the 12; Big-12 teams will also get Bowls. So, your point is what ???

[FootballJunkie]

Ya,,, so much for Miami win against Colorado (in Miami) 23-3 huh.

I mean when a team like Nebraska can travel to Colorado and beat them worse. Of coarse Nebraska already destroyed one ACC team like a beat up dog this season.

This is the same Nebraska team that you've "put down" almost all season as a sorry no good (Big-12 North) team. We'll see how FSU does against them.

I told you Nebraska was a pretty salty team after they had Tx Tech on the ropes. Of coarse to your (ACC) mind it clearly showed that Tx Tech wasnt that good.

I mean going to Nebraska (like Tx Tech did) and beating them on their field in Lincoln is a walk in the park right (in your mind). I mean 10 of the 12 ACC teams would easily do that right......

Also... your point about 8 of the 12 ACC teams being Bowl teams.. congrats.

I believe 8 of the 12; Big-12 teams will also get Bowls. So, your point is what ???


I mean are you still talking about Nebraska beating "Wake Forest" Not even the most diehard fan would brag about that. That is like beating MAINE which they barely did.:rolleyes:

This salty Nebraska team got beat down 40-15 by that powerhouse KANSAS!!
You will have to do better than that FROG. Texas Tech losing to Oklahoma St. just proves how good they are!!:rolleyes:

Texas is a great team THIS year no question...but noone else is even close to being good;)
I don't think anyone in the North division even wanted to win the title. I mean everyone up their did all they could NOT to win it!!!!!:p

[Texasfrog]

I mean are you still talking about Nebraska beating "Wake Forest" Not even the most diehard fan would brag about that. That is like beating MAINE which they barely did.:rolleyes:

This salty Nebraska team got beat down 40-15 by that powerhouse KANSAS!!
You will have to do better than that FROG. Texas Tech losing to Oklahoma St. just proves how good they are!!:rolleyes:

Texas is a great team THIS year no question...but noone else is even close to being good;)
I don't think anyone in the North division even wanted to win the title. I mean everyone up their did all they could NOT to win it!!!!!:p

Haha.. dont act like Nebraska just beat WF. They "KILLED" Wake Forest. This is the same WF team that had several tough games go into the 4th QT against alot of the mighty ACC teams. Sorry, but a 33-3 is a beating its a butt-kicking + beating.

I guess Wake Forest is lucky they didnt have to play that powerhouse Kansas.

Kansas vs NC State.... toss up game.

Like other people are now stating. Some East coast "bias press" is hyping up some of the mid-level ACC teams more then anything and keeping them ranked higher then they probably deserve.

Texas vs Va Tech - Texas
Oklahoma vs. Ga Tech - toss up game.
Tx Tech vs. Miami - toss up game.
Colorado vs Boston College - Colorado
Iowa St vs Clemson - Iowa St.
Mizzou vs. NC St - toss up game.
Nebraska vs Virginia - toss up game.
Kansas vs FSU - toss up game.

Baylor, Kansas St, Oklahoma St & Tx A&M are pretty much better then North Carolina, Wake Forest, Duke and Maryland.

Sorry... you can say what you want. But, after all the hogwash the ACC really isnt any better then the Big-12 despite all the East coast "bias press."

[Texasfrog]

I mean are you still talking about Nebraska beating "Wake Forest" Not even the most diehard fan would brag about that. That is like beating MAINE which they barely did.:rolleyes:

This salty Nebraska team got beat down 40-15 by that powerhouse KANSAS!!
You will have to do better than that FROG. Texas Tech losing to Oklahoma St. just proves how good they are!!:rolleyes:

Texas is a great team THIS year no question...but noone else is even close to being good;)
I don't think anyone in the North division even wanted to win the title. I mean everyone up their did all they could NOT to win it!!!!!:p


Oh ya.. have you maybe thought to yourself that just maybe KANSAS isnt that bad of a football team ?? Just wondering.

I've told you all season that Kansas is alot better then people give them credit for.

[FootballJunkie]

Oh ya.. have you maybe thought to yourself that just maybe KANSAS isnt that bad of a football team ?? Just wondering.

I've told you all season that Kansas is alot better then people give them credit for.


OK lets see now Kansas: Is that the team I saw give up like 60+ points and like 600 yards??? Or is it the one that could not manage a TD against Kansas St or Missouri or OU??? Yea they are real good this year:rolleyes: Guess I missed it.

Kansas is not good, Iowa St. choked, did you see that game?? Colorado sucks big time, did you see that game?? No one seems to want to play in the championship:confused:

I hope Nebraska plays FSU in a bowl game...It will continue the ownership FSU has over Nebraska for the past 20 plus years:D

[farmerfan]

OK lets see now Kansas: Is that the team I saw give up like 60+ points and like 600 yards??? Or is it the one that could not manage a TD against Kansas St or Missouri or OU??? Yea they are real good this year:rolleyes: Guess I missed it.

Kansas is not good, Iowa St. choked, did you see that game?? Colorado sucks big time, did you see that game?? No one seems to want to play in the championship:confused:

I hope Nebraska plays FSU in a bowl game...It will continue the ownership FSU has over Nebraska for the past 20 plus years:D

Junkie dont even bother with him, he has been as fickle as anyone on this topic. I asked him a question earlier on how he bothced his picks with Nebraska, Iowa State and Colorado. It is also funny how he says now that Kansas is a good team but a few weeks ago he said they were not that good. Kind of funny isn't it?

[Texasfrog]

OK lets see now Kansas: Is that the team I saw give up like 60+ points and like 600 yards??? Or is it the one that could not manage a TD against Kansas St or Missouri or OU??? Yea they are real good this year:rolleyes: Guess I missed it.

Kansas is not good, Iowa St. choked, did you see that game?? Colorado sucks big time, did you see that game?? No one seems to want to play in the championship:confused:

I hope Nebraska plays FSU in a bowl game...It will continue the ownership FSU has over Nebraska for the past 20 plus years:D

We'll see how FSU does in a bowl against Nebraska.

Kansas is on par with teams like Clemson, NC State, North Carolina and Virginia. It would be close hard fought games (toss up games).

[Texasfrog]

Junkie dont even bother with him, he has been as fickle as anyone on this topic. I asked him a question earlier on how he bothced his picks with Nebraska, Iowa State and Colorado. It is also funny how he says now that Kansas is a good team but a few weeks ago he said they were not that good. Kind of funny isn't it?

How do you know that Nebraska, Iowa St, Mizzou and even Colorado arent good ?? Who is saying they're not good ? I think their pretty scrappy teams that on any given Saturday they can pretty much beat each other because their all about even.

Do I think their national top #25 teams ?? Probably not, although I do think their right there in the mix with the #20 -- #30 teams on any given Saturday.

Just like I think Clemson, Ga Tech, FSU & Virginia are about right there in that mix with those 3; Big-12 North teams.

I didnt say their sorry and no good. In fact I've stated for awhile that Kansas was alot better team then many people give them credit for.

[Texasfrog]

Junkie dont even bother with him, he has been as fickle as anyone on this topic. I asked him a question earlier on how he bothced his picks with Nebraska, Iowa State and Colorado. It is also funny how he says now that Kansas is a good team but a few weeks ago he said they were not that good. Kind of funny isn't it?

Miami beat Colorado (in Miami) 23-3. so, I guess Colorado sucks huh.

Opps, Miami went to Blacksburg, Va and beat the living crap out of Va tech something like 27-7. Throws that sorry theory about Colorado right out the door huh !!

Texas beat Colorado worse then anyone !!!

Iowa St sucks ?? Go tell that to Iowa (Big-10) Bowl team. Iowa St beat the living snot out of them huh !!!

Nebraska sucks ?? Go tell that to Wake Forest (ACC) team that got spanked by Nebraska. I still think its the worst butt kicking WF got all year.

Tx A&M sucks ?? They went to Clemson and got beat by 1 pt on the last play of the game AT CLEMSON.. Isnt Clemson an ACC bowl qualifier ? Tx A&M isnt in the Big-12.

So, dont try to tell me that all of these ACC teams are heads and toes superior to Big-12 or even Big-12 (North teams).

I would put several of those Big-12 North teams up against many of the ACC teams and feel pretty good about it on any given Saturday that it would be a very good game. Blow outs ,, I doubt it. but, evenly fought "toss up" type of games... YES !!

Here... I pasted Wake Forest full schedule/results for ya ....

1 Thur., Sep 1 Vanderbilt L 24-20
2 Sat., Sep 10 @Nebraska L 31-3
3 Sat., Sep 17 East Carolina W 44-34
4 Sat., Sep 24 Maryland L 22-12
5 Sat., Oct 1 Clemson W 31-27
6 Sat., Oct 8 @Florida State L 41-24
7 Sat., Oct 15 @Boston College L 35-30
8 Sat., Oct 22 North Carolina State W 27-19
9 Sat., Oct 29 @Duke W 44-6
10 Sat., Nov 5 @Georgia Tech L 30-17
11 Sat., Nov 12 Miami (FL) L 47-17
Week Date Opponent

Like I said... worse Butt kicking Wake Forest took all year was to the sorry no good Big-12 (North team) Nebraska.

[farmerfan]

Miami beat Colorado (in Miami) 23-3. so, I guess Colorado sucks huh.

Opps, Miami went to Blacksburg, Va and beat the living crap out of Va tech something like 27-7. Throws that sorry theory about Colorado right out the door huh !!

Texas beat Colorado worse then anyone !!!

Iowa St sucks ?? Go tell that to Iowa (Big-10) Bowl team. Iowa St beat the living snot out of them huh !!!

Nebraska sucks ?? Go tell that to Wake Forest (ACC) team that got spanked by Nebraska. I still think its the worst butt kicking WF got all year.

Tx A&M sucks ?? They went to Clemson and got beat by 1 pt on the last play of the game AT CLEMSON.. Isnt Clemson an ACC bowl qualifier ? Tx A&M isnt in the Big-12.

So, dont try to tell me that all of these ACC teams are heads and toes superior to Big-12 or even Big-12 (North teams).

I would put several of those Big-12 North teams up against many of the ACC teams and feel pretty good about it on any given Saturday that it would be a very good game. Blow outs ,, I doubt it. but, evenly fought "toss up" type of games... YES !!

Here... I pasted Wake Forest full schedule/results for ya ....

1 Thur., Sep 1 Vanderbilt L 24-20
2 Sat., Sep 10 @Nebraska L 31-3
3 Sat., Sep 17 East Carolina W 44-34
4 Sat., Sep 24 Maryland L 22-12
5 Sat., Oct 1 Clemson W 31-27
6 Sat., Oct 8 @Florida State L 41-24
7 Sat., Oct 15 @Boston College L 35-30
8 Sat., Oct 22 North Carolina State W 27-19
9 Sat., Oct 29 @Duke W 44-6
10 Sat., Nov 5 @Georgia Tech L 30-17
11 Sat., Nov 12 Miami (FL) L 47-17
Week Date Opponent

Like I said... worse Butt kicking Wake Forest took all year was to the sorry no good Big-12 (North team) Nebraska.

worst butt kicking they took all year was to Miami at home by 30 points.
Iowa State lost to Baylor and Kansas, that is not to impressive to me.
Also you were claiming how Nebraska and Colorado would finsih the year in the top 25, now you are saying they are scrappy. You change your mind and your statements more than anyone I have ever seen.

[Reaganrattler07]

great call on nebraska and colorado finishing in the top 25, which aint happening. Hey you also missed badly on Iowa State considering they just lost to freaking Kansas. you got one call and want to pat yourself on the back without realizing you missed on colorado, nebraska as well as Iowa State.

It's always nice to bring out the positives!

[Texasfrog]

worst butt kicking they took all year was to Miami at home by 30 points.
Iowa State lost to Baylor and Kansas, that is not to impressive to me.
Also you were claiming how Nebraska and Colorado would finsih the year in the top 25, now you are saying they are scrappy. You change your mind and your statements more than anyone I have ever seen.

Sorry,, but 31-3 is a pretty serious butt kicking. That means Nebraska defense basically shut them down for nothing.

I know you could say the same thing about Miami vs Colorado 23-3. But, Miami beat the snot out of Va Tech like 27-7 and should of shut them out !!

Also... like you say. Colorado has shown that their just another "average team" in the Big-12. Va Tech is the ACC's #1 team...

I also said after the Tx Tech vs Nebraska game that "it wouldnt surprise me to see them finish in the top #25.

But again.... you claim that these teams arent good. How do you really know that ?? How do you know that teams like Colorado, Iowa St, Nebraska, Mizzou and heck in Baylor arent some pretty scrappy teams that can play some solid football with the likes of Clemson, Ga Tech, NC State, Virginia and even FSU ???

Honestly.. I think those teams are all pretty even in their overall caliber.

Also.. the knew BCS poll (the one that counts) has 4 ACC teams and 3 Big-12 teams. That gap closes !!!

Basically the point is this... you yapping all season on how the ACC is way better then the Big-12 is pretty much a "moot point".

[farmerfan]

Sorry,, but 31-3 is a pretty serious butt kicking. That means Nebraska defense basically shut them down for nothing.

I know you could say the same thing about Miami vs Colorado 23-3. But, Miami beat the snot out of Va Tech like 27-7 and should of shut them out !!

Also... like you say. Colorado has shown that their just another "average team" in the Big-12. Va Tech is the ACC's #1 team...

I also said after the Tx Tech vs Nebraska game that "it wouldnt surprise me to see them finish in the top #25.

But again.... you claim that these teams arent good. How do you really know that ?? How do you know that teams like Colorado, Iowa St, Nebraska, Mizzou and heck in Baylor arent some pretty scrappy teams that can play some solid football with the likes of Clemson, Ga Tech, NC State, Virginia and even FSU ???

Honestly.. I think those teams are all pretty even in their overall caliber.

Also.. the knew BCS poll (the one that counts) has 4 ACC teams and 3 Big-12 teams. That gap closes !!!

Basically the point is this... you yapping all season on how the ACC is way better then the Big-12 is pretty much a "moot point".

Hey you were the one proclaiming how they would be in the top 25, go back and read your post. You said it not me. Im just calling you out like you do to so many others.
You say the point is me yapping all season about how the ACC is better than the Big 12, well I will easily counter with your countless yapping of how Nebraska, Colorado and Iowa State would all finish in the top 25, but of course all you do is call people out on their own predictions without taking responsibility for your own. It happend with the Colerain/Tyler Lee game and now with your big miss on the big 12.
I also say teams arent good when they struggle with programs like Maine, Montana State, Texas State, Arkansas State, Sanford, Army and lose to New Mexico.
By looking at the score and that is all that counts you are right 31-3 is pretty decisive, however look at the stats of that WF/Nebraska game and it tells you a whole different story.
I guess we will have to wait till the bowl season to find out in the head to head matchups to see which confrence is better, right now the ACC is up 2-1.