New Metallica Album

[KT2000]

This is easily the best work they've done since Black and the heaviest since Justice.

The major press reviews are all positive, which is a sharp contrast from the Load albums and St. Anger.

The song All Nightmare Long= Metallica at its best. :notworthy

[Panther #73]

i love this new album. i got it the morning it came out! Metallica is without a doubt my number 1 band! Ive seen them in concert many times and they are really really badaass!! i cant get enough!

The release of St.Anger kinda got my hopes up on them bringing out another ****** record like Justice or Black Album but Death Magnetic hit the spot!

All hail METALLICA :notworthy

[SLC]

The new album is absolutely fantastic.. Metallica is and always will be one of the greatest bands of all time..

And you are correct All Nightmare Long is great.

I have listened to them since their inception and have way to many favorites to list, but you mentioned the Load albums and I must say that Bleeding Me is one of my favorite songs from them of all time. And the S&M version is insane.

[Pinion]

My son txt'd me about the new Metallica the other week. Just going on and on about how killer it is. Generally, if my son likes it, it's pretty heavy stuff. I didnt think we'd see anymore of those days from Metallica. I was wrong.

I agree with Kt2000 completely.

Good to know that one of the best rock bands every assembled still has "it".

[tayb]

I'm going to download it illegally just to piss off the drummer.

[Pinion]

I'm going to download it illegally just to piss off the drummer.

why not just go to the store and steal it.. it's the same thing.

[tayb]

why not just go to the store and steal it.. it's the same thing.

I was being sarcastic because their drummer, and band in general, have been huge dicks about online downloading from places like iTunes or Zune Marketplace. Their dummer staged some revolt or some nonsense a while ago when the album was leaked onto the internet early.

[KT2000]

I have listened to them since their inception and have way to many favorites to list, but you mentioned the Load albums and I must say that Bleeding Me is one of my favorite songs from them of all time. And the S&M version is insane.

I never took the time to listen to the Loads in depth until a few years ago and there are good things. Outlaw Torn, Bleeding Me and Fixxxer are my favorites from those two.

I am one of the rare few, you may be as well, who can find something good on every album...even St. Anger (Unnamed Feeling).

[Mhs06]

Both All Nightmare Long and Cyanide are awesome songs to listen to. I agree, good album.

[SLC]

I never took the time to listen to the Loads in depth until a few years ago and there are good things. Outlaw Torn, Bleeding Me and Fixxxer are my favorites from those two.

I am one of the rare few, you may be as well, who can find something good on every album...even St. Anger (Unnamed Feeling).


Oh yea... I have favorites off of every album they made... At least 4-5 on each and every album... And ones like Master of Puppets... well its just loaded front to back. Its by far my favorite album of all time. followed closely by Justice.

[Panther #73]

I was being sarcastic because their drummer, and band in general, have been huge dicks about online downloading from places like iTunes or Zune Marketplace. Their dummer staged some revolt or some nonsense a while ago when the album was leaked onto the internet early.

Well when u spend ur whole life writing songs, going throug hard times, coming up with all that material and riffs and amazing solos id be pissed off too if some A hole is gonna steal my stuff! I am proud to say ive supported Metallica by buying each and every album they have and nothing illegal on my end!

[Pinion]

I was being sarcastic because their drummer, and band in general, have been huge dicks about online downloading from places like iTunes or Zune Marketplace. Their dummer staged some revolt or some nonsense a while ago when the album was leaked onto the internet early.

oh. I didnt see the sarcams emoticon. lol.

I get what you're getting at. But at the same time, I completely understand Ulrich's stand (the drummer) on the matter. And the band as a whole feels the same way.
I view it as if I go out and service someones machine and they refuse to pay me for my work. I dont agree with the high prices we have to pay for music, but stealing it is not the answer.

And I do want to note that I dont think you feel like stealing is the answer either. You dont strike me as that kind of person.

[yallerjacket]

I was being sarcastic because their drummer, and band in general, have been huge dicks about online downloading from places like iTunes or Zune Marketplace. Their dummer staged some revolt or some nonsense a while ago when the album was leaked onto the internet early.


I don't think they have a problem with iTunes or places like that where people buy their music. It was Napsters of the world where people got all the free music they wanted that were the problem. Isn't that what Limewire is? Free downloads?

[SLC]

I completely understand Ulrich's stand (the drummer) on the matter.

http://www.chetanr.com/newmetallicaalbum2008/images/ohfucklars.jpg

[Mhs06]

Metallica allowed Red Octane to release the whole album on Guitar Hero. You are telling me they don't like internet downloads, but seriously, an entire album on freakin guitar hero?

[tayb]

I don't think they have a problem with iTunes or places like that where people buy their music. It was Napsters of the world where people got all the free music they wanted that were the problem. Isn't that what Limewire is? Free downloads?

They were blocking Apple from selling their songs in general for a long time. It wasn't until summer of '06 that they began allowing Apple to sell their songs at all and started allowing online retailers to sell downloads to songs individually instead of the whole album.

[Pinion]

http://www.chetanr.com/newmetallicaalbum2008/images/ohfucklars.jpg

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[jtk1519]

"The Day That Never Comes" has really grown on me. "Cyanide" is certifiable awesome.

[jtk1519]

The song All Nightmare Long= Metallica at its best. :notworthy

Best drumming I've heard out of Lars since the Black Album. Definitely a throwback to their thrash metal days.

[Firebird]

Did y'all hear that Barry Manilow is coming out with a greatest songs of the eighties album this Christmas?

[SLC]

Did y'all hear that Barry Manilow is coming out with a greatest songs of the eighties album this Christmas?

You should really check out Metallica performing jingle bells... Its a classic.

[pantherfan]

Alot of people rip on the Load albums and St. Anger. Yea its not there best stuff, but I think Load is a decent album. As mentioned before "Bleeding Me" is a great song. if you havent really listened to Load, listen to a song on it called "The Outlaw Torn". Its the last song on the album and is the best on the album IMO.

[SLC]

Alot of people rip on the Load albums and St. Anger. Yea its not there best stuff, but I think Load is a decent album. As mentioned before "Bleeding Me" is a great song. if you havent really listened to Load, listen to a song on it called "The Outlaw Torn". Its the last song on the album and is the best on the album IMO.


The Outlaw Torn.. +1

[jtk1519]

Alot of people rip on the Load albums and St. Anger. Yea its not there best stuff, but I think Load is a decent album. As mentioned before "Bleeding Me" is a great song. if you havent really listened to Load, listen to a song on it called "The Outlaw Torn". Its the last song on the album and is the best on the album IMO.

Load was okay. Her of the Day was good. I think ReLoad was a little better. St. Anger was pretty much an abortion. There is some potential there (see Frantic), but the production was just so bad that it all came out as crap.

[SLC]

Load was okay. Her of the Day was good. I think ReLoad was a little better. St. Anger was pretty much an abortion. There is some potential there (see Frantic), but the production was just so bad that it all came out as crap.


I've never been a fan of Bob Rock. I'm glad they made the switch to Rubin, his style is much closer to that of Rasmussen.

[jtk1519]

I've never been a fan of Bob Rock. I'm glad they made the switch to Rubin, his style is much closer to that of Rasmussen.

Rock gained too much creative control from the bad and the result was St. Anger. Rock was at his best on The Black Album when he was limited to engineering and mixing.

[SLC]

Rock gained too much creative control from the bad and the result was St. Anger. Rock was at his best on The Black Album when he was limited to engineering and mixing.


I agree. Whats funny about both Rock and Rasmussen is that they both started out great with limited control, then when success hit, the after effect was them taking more and more control. And both were seperated for these reasons.. Though Rasmussen was truly a producing mastermind, as he was involved in 3 of the greatest albums of all time. Where Rock had 1.

[jtk1519]

I agree. Whats funny about both Rock and Rasmussen is that they both started out great with limited control, then when success hit, the after effect was them taking more and more control. And both were seperated for these reasons.. Though Rasmussen was truly a producing mastermind, as he was involved in 3 of the greatest albums of all time. Where Rock had 1.

I agree. Funny that Rasmussen and Rock are both great producers, but their last album's with the bad were production jokes. The Justice album is maybe my favorite Metallica album, but the production value was horrible. Then we all know what Rock did with St. Anger. Some how they seem to digress over time.

I don't know how long Metallica will work with Rick Rueben, but I would not be upset if he is working with the band for many more albums.

[jtk1519]

BTW, I've been saying since Metallica announced they were doing a new album that I wanted to see the impact Robert Trujillo and after listening to most of Death Magnetic, I am very impressed. I've always been very impressed with Trujilo's bass work, but I didn't know exactly how it would gel with the band. His style and sound to me is more of a throwback to Cliff Burton's thrash metal style. One thing I am certain of, Death Magnetic in it's current form could not exist with Jason Newstead. I think one of the small reasons why this album is a little more vintage Metallica (aside from Reuben) is Trujilo.

[SLC]

I agree. Funny that Rasmussen and Rock are both great producers, but their last album's with the bad were production jokes. The Justice album is maybe my favorite Metallica album, but the production value was horrible. Then we all know what Rock did with St. Anger. Some how they seem to digress over time.

I don't know how long Metallica will work with Rick Rueben, but I would not be upset if he is working with the band for many more albums.


Yea, with Rasmussen it was what he did with the bass sounds on Justice, though the album itself was genius.. With Rock it was a total disaster, though James and Lars shared the blame in my opinion, cause they are the brain trust.

[SLC]

BTW, I've been saying since Metallica announced they were doing a new album that I wanted to see the impact Robert Trujillo and after listening to most of Death Magnetic, I am very impressed. I've always been very impressed with Trujilo's bass work, but I didn't know exactly how it would gel with the band. His style and sound to me is more of a throwback to Cliff Burton's thrash metal style. One thing I am certain of, Death Magnetic in it's current form could not exist with Jason Newstead. I think one of the small reasons why this album is a little more vintage Metallica (aside from Reuben) is Trujilo.

Yea, I really love Trujilo.. and for me thats a real stretch. I say that because of the obvious love I had for Cliff and how I thought I would never get past that, then enter Jason... and wow.. What can I say, I had always listened to Flotsam and Jetsam and when Metallica announced that Newsted would take the reigns as the new bass player I was very hesitant to accept it... and then Justice arrived and all fears were put to rest.. even with the producing blunders by Rasmussen in the area of the bass sound, his style and sound came through in ways you hadnt heard a bass player do at that time. And then the ugly seperation came about and I again had the reacurring fears I had when the Cliff to Jason transition happend.. But for the most part I am thrilled with what Robert has done and his style is definaltely a throw back to the early years.

[KT2000]

BTW, I've been saying since Metallica announced they were doing a new album that I wanted to see the impact Robert Trujillo and after listening to most of Death Magnetic, I am very impressed. I've always been very impressed with Trujilo's bass work, but I didn't know exactly how it would gel with the band. His style and sound to me is more of a throwback to Cliff Burton's thrash metal style. One thing I am certain of, Death Magnetic in it's current form could not exist with Jason Newstead. I think one of the small reasons why this album is a little more vintage Metallica (aside from Reuben) is Trujilo.

I saw Trujillo play Battery in a live performance, and after that I knew he was the right one for the job. I didn't really know who he was before because I never listened to Suicidal Tendencies when he played for them.

[SLC]

I saw Trujillo play Battery in a live performance, and after that I knew he was the right one for the job. I didn't really know who he was before because I never listened to Suicidal Tendencies when he played for them.


He's sick man.. I love his energy, the live show energy was also a staple of Newsted.

[Pinion]

I've never been a fan of Bob Rock. I'm glad they made the switch to Rubin, his style is much closer to that of Rasmussen.

BobRock. yeah. I wasnt never a big fan of his either. I just didnt care for his style and I never felt like his style matched well with Metallica's. But I am a die-hard Metallica fan so it would take a lot for me to declare hate for anything musically they did.

[SLC]

BobRock. yeah. I wasnt never a big fan of his either. I just didnt care for his style and I never felt like his style matched well with Metallica's. But I am a die-hard Metallica fan so it would take a lot for me to declare hate for anything musically they did.


Exactly how I feel about it.:)

[pantherfan]

The difference in Cliff/Trujillo and Newstead is that Cliff/Trujillo play without a pick. It makes a big difference.
On a side note, the first time I saw Metallica live was at the Monsters of Rock tour at the Cotton Bowl in the summer of 1988. I had just graduated highschool. Newstead had just started with the band, Justice hadnt been released yet, and I can still see him in his camo pants and white T-shirt with long curly hair. They played Harvestor of Sorrow live and it was great. The krunch was deafening.

[SLC]

The difference in Cliff/Trujillo and Newstead is that Cliff/Trujillo play without a pick. It makes a big difference.
On a side note, the first time I saw Metallica live was at the Monsters of Rock tour at the Cotton Bowl in the summer of 1988. I had just graduated highschool. Newstead had just started with the band, Justice hadnt been released yet, and I can still see him in his camo pants and white T-shirt with long curly hair. They played Harvestor of Sorrow live and it was great. The krunch was deafening.


That pic crap is way over played.. And few know that Jason played both ways... Where he seperates himself from most is his ability with back up vocals.. He was simply a musician, he helped write music and performed big time on vocals... I love Trujillo though and prefer him in the direction the band is headed.

[jtk1519]

That pic crap is way over played.. And few know that Jason played both ways... Where he seperates himself from most is his ability with back up vocals.. He was simply a musician, he helped write music and performed big time on vocals... I love Trujillo though and prefer him in the direction the band is headed.

I agree and disagree. Newstead was a valuable vocalist and Metallica really misses that now. He also did play both styles, but he was mostly a pick player whose sound and technique was great for heavy metal, but ill-suited for the thrash metal sound Metallica had with Burton. Newstead just isn't fast enough and I though it showed on a lot of Cliff's songs (For Whom the Bell Tolls). Trujilo is not just a finger player, but he's fast as hell. A lot like Cliff was.

For Whom The Bell Tolls w/ Burton
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22W38jJk81s

For Whom The Bell Tolls w/ Newstead
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRHWnixBCNU&feature=related

For Whom The Bell Tolls w/ Trujilo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztk1V4utYdA&feature=related

To me, there is a dramatic difference and I find Trujilo's style to be more reminiscent of Burton's.

BTW, I believe Trujilo's first performance with Metallica was at the MTV Icon special and he blew me away. The way he handled some of the vintage stuff, I felt he could be special...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bmgpjx7uFWo

[SLC]

I agree and disagree. Newstead was a valuable vocalist and Metallica really misses that now. He also did play both styles, but he was mostly a pick player whose sound and technique was great for heavy metal, but ill-suited for the thrash metal sound Metallica had with Burton. Newstead just isn't fast enough and I though it showed on a lot of Cliff's songs (For Whom the Bell Tolls). Trujilo is not just a finger player, but he's fast as hell. A lot like Cliff was.

For Whom The Bell Tolls w/ Burton
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22W38jJk81s

For Whom The Bell Tolls w/ Newstead
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRHWnixBCNU&feature=related

For Whom The Bell Tolls w/ Trujilo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztk1V4utYdA&feature=related

To me, there is a dramatic difference and I find Trujilo's style to be more reminiscent of Burton's.

BTW, I believe Trujilo's first performance with Metallica was at the MTV Icon special and he blew me away. The way he handled some of the vintage stuff, I felt he could be special...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bmgpjx7uFWo


There is no doubt Trujillo is WAY more like Burton... So he gets my nod for the direction the band is headed.

Also keep in mind that as far as the vintage and really any of the stuff, but especially the old school stuff, that you would be hard pressed to find ANY musician in the rock, metal, thrash, speed genre that cant play Metallica's stuff. They practice it constantly.. Its the most practiced stuff on the planet. Alot of "be like Mike" respect from the other bands.

[jtk1519]

There is no doubt Trujillo is WAY more like Burton... So he gets my nod for the direction the band is headed.

Also keep in mind that as far as the vintage and really any of the stuff, but especially the old school stuff, that you would be hard pressed to find ANY musician in the rock, metal, thrash, speed genre that cant play Metallica's stuff. They practice it constantly.. Its the most practiced stuff on the planet. Alot of "be like Mike" respect from the other bands.

Newstead was right for where Metallica went with the Black Album and on. He fit that heavier sound a lot better. Where he didn't sound as good on songs like "For Whom The Bell Tolls", Trujilo doesn't sound quite as good on the heavier songs like "Enter Sandman" or "Until It Sleeps".

[SLC]

Newstead was right for where Metallica went with the Black Album and on. He fit that heavier sound a lot better. Where he didn't sound as good on songs like "For Whom The Bell Tolls", Trujilo doesn't sound quite as good on the heavier songs like "Enter Sandman" or "Until It Sleeps".


I wouldnt ever say that Sandman is heavier than For Whom The Bell Tolls... A more full sound....eh.... Maybe... But not heavier.

[jtk1519]

I wouldnt ever say that Sandman is heavier than For Whom The Bell Tolls... A more full sound....eh.... Maybe... But not heavier.

I would.

[dragons08]

I wouldnt ever say that Sandman is heavier than For Whom The Bell Tolls... A more full sound....eh.... Maybe... But not heavier.

Possibleh.