Abilene Eagles fan plz answer

[Weber]

Whatever happen to that a awesome linebacker the Abilene High Eagles had last year ( 2004 ) the team that barely lost to Southlake last year..i forgot his name..did he go off and play college football ???

[sltnusmc]

His name is Jarrod Carrol and he got a baseball scholarship to Arkansas.

[dragonsdaddy]

inquiring minds want to know why the blow up eagle wasn't used after halftime? was it broken or tradition?

[trooper82d]

inquiring minds want to know why the blow up eagle wasn't used after halftime? was it broken or tradition?
Well Abilene you time has come to turn in your equipment. I not think you guys were that good anyway. Here's another example of an over rating team, that plays in a weak district. How can a highly ranked team as Abilene lose by 52 points. I know SLC is good but give me a break. Abilene who's your Daddy besides the DAWGS of Cove?

[sltnusmc]

Well Abilene you time has come to turn in your equipment. I not think you guys were that good anyway. Here's another example of an over rating team, that plays in a weak district. How can a highly ranked team as Abilene lose by 52 points. I know SLC is good but give me a break. Abilene who's your Daddy besides the DAWGS of Cove?
Lets see how Cove does aganst SLC. You may want withhold your comments till that game is over.

[drgnbkr]

Well Abilene you time has come to turn in your equipment. I not think you guys were that good anyway. Here's another example of an over rating team, that plays in a weak district. How can a highly ranked team as Abilene lose by 52 points. I know SLC is good but give me a break. Abilene who's your Daddy besides the DAWGS of Cove?

We all wonder how you work dawgs of cove..whatever that is, into the conversation....

[thestud]

first of all you can go play with yourself for all i care you little piece of crap. you guys scored 3 times to our 2 in a SCRIMMAGE for gods sakes. the qb's werent allowed to scramble or be hit. get over yourself. we didnt play our best football, and when you get to the third round of the playoffs you cant make 4 turnovers and expect to even keep it respectable. that was not abiene high football last night, and if you knew anything about us, you would know this.

[FootballJunkie]

Lets see how Cove does aganst SLC. You may want withhold your comments till that game is over.

COVE has Lufkin next so we will concentrate on that...as far as playing SLC I don't think anyone could do any worse than Abilene did last night:eek:

[trooper82d]

first of all you can go play with yourself for all i care you little piece of crap. you guys scored 3 times to our 2 in a SCRIMMAGE for gods sakes. the qb's werent allowed to scramble or be hit. get over yourself. we didnt play our best football, and when you get to the third round of the playoffs you cant make 4 turnovers and expect to even keep it respectable. that was not abiene high football last night, and if you knew anything about us, you would know this.
Give me a break about Abilene football. Good teams play GOOD games in the playoffs. I don't want to hear about we did not play our best football. You made the turnovers because your team finally played a good football team. I was hoping you guys won because I KNOW the Dawgs would have done the same thing SLC did to you. When we play SLC it WON'T be 52-0. You guys should have stayed home. Poor. How were you ranked so high? I know why playing soft teams. Turn your equipment in Abilene!!!!!!!!!!!

[hoo2ers]

Well Abilene you time has come to turn in your equipment. I not think you guys were that good anyway. Here's another example of an over rating team, that plays in a weak district. How can a highly ranked team as Abilene lose by 52 points. I know SLC is good but give me a break. Abilene who's your Daddy besides the DAWGS of Cove?

Cove??????
Trooper have you ever won anything besides a Icee at 7-11 on your 3rd grade field trip?

[BAMF cowboy]

Well Abilene you time has come to turn in your equipment. I not think you guys were that good anyway. Here's another example of an over rating team, that plays in a weak district. How can a highly ranked team as Abilene lose by 52 points. I know SLC is good but give me a break. Abilene who's your Daddy besides the DAWGS of Cove?

trooper i've seen you make that 'turn in your equipment' analogy a dozen times now, it's getting old

i wouldn't be so cocky about your dawgs either, because not only do you have Lufkin next week, but then you have SLC, and if by some miracle you make it through those two, you got yourselves a nice little showdown with SV or Katy

[thestud]

Give me a break about Abilene football. Good teams play GOOD games in the playoffs. I don't want to hear about we did not play our best football. You made the turnovers because your team finally played a good football team. I was hoping you guys won because I KNOW the Dawgs would have done the same thing SLC did to you. When we play SLC it WON'T be 52-0. You guys should have stayed home. Poor. How were you ranked so high? I know why playing soft teams. Turn your equipment in Abilene!!!!!!!!!!!


yes you're right, only bad teams go 24-2 in two years.

[trooper82d]

trooper i've seen you make that 'turn in your equipment' analogy a dozen times now, it's getting old

i wouldn't be so cocky about your dawgs either, because not only do you have Lufkin next week, but then you have SLC, and if by some miracle you make it through those two, you got yourselves a nice little showdown with SV or Katy
First of all you better hope you don't have to see us in the playoffs. We have some the best DB's in the state, period. As far turn-in your equipment goes we still have ours. We are not looking ahead of Lufkin. Plus I never said Lufkin was a bad team. I know we will have our hands full. GO DAWGS GO

[trooper82d]

yes you're right, only bad teams go 24-2 in two years.
That's very good Abilene, but who cares!!!! Where is the GOLD? Plus you play in a WEAK district.b HIGHLY OVER RATED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[drgnbkr]

First of all you better hope you don't have to see us in the playoffs. We have some the best DB's in the state, period. As far turn-in your equipment goes we still have ours. We are not looking ahead of Lufkin. Plus I never said Lufkin was a bad team. I know we will have our hands full. GO DAWGS GO

You talk like a frustrated player pooper....you might think about turning it down a little..its going to hurt when you lose...or do you just spew for sport....

[BAMF cowboy]

First of all you better hope you don't have to see us in the playoffs. We have some the best DB's in the state, period. As far turn-in your equipment goes we still have ours. We are not looking ahead of Lufkin. Plus I never said Lufkin was a bad team. I know we will have our hands full. GO DAWGS GO

Talk it up as much as you want, i think 60 - 1 in 5A says something for itself.

[trooper82d]

trooper i've seen you make that 'turn in your equipment' analogy a dozen times now, it's getting old

i wouldn't be so cocky about your dawgs either, because not only do you have Lufkin next week, but then you have SLC, and if by some miracle you make it through those two, you got yourselves a nice little showdown with SV or Katy
I not being cocky about the DAWGS, I just have plenty of faith in them.

[trooper82d]

You talk like a frustrated player pooper....you might think about turning it down a little..its going to hurt when you lose...or do you just spew for sport....
It's all good win or lose I will always talk about those DAWGS!!!!!!!!!!

[drgnbkr]

You need lots of faith considering they've never done anything....

[BAMF cowboy]

It's all good win or lose I will always talk about those DAWGS!!!!!!!!!!

it's good to be into your team, and to be supportive. But pointless posts like this arent gonna do anything. GL to Cove next week.

[trooper82d]

it's good to be into your team, and to be supportive. But pointless posts like this arent gonna do anything. GL to Cove next week.
Whatever loser

[drgnbkr]

Whatever loser

Damn..your right..Carroll has lost a game...in the last four freakin years you knucklehead! Losers....drive-by posters are really important for the board..it keeps the rest of us in perspective....:rolleyes:

[dragonsdaddy]

sounds like a frustrated used to be has gotten some taste of success. it''ll be a sweet run til next week. cove won't see slc unless they want to buy tickets to get in.

[thestud]

i've discovered it, you are a guy, in the band, you play the flute, you attend band camps religiously, you get on here to make yourself feel important and feel like a big man, because the only thing smaller than your vertical stature is your horizontal stature, if it even exists. im glad this board has given you a place to raise you self esteem because you couldnt make it on the team.

[trooper82d]

i've discovered it, you are a guy, in the band, you play the flute, you attend band camps religiously, you get on here to make yourself feel important and feel like a big man, because the only thing smaller than your vertical stature is your horizontal stature, if it even exists. im glad this board has given you a place to raise you self esteem because you couldnt make it on the team.
Okay you have jokes and you sound good. SLC has a very good program and should because of the area in which you live. No band player here Sir just a faithful DAWG fan. Let's just say I'm looking forward to playing a good Lufkin team and then on the the big boys of SLC.

[BAMF cowboy]

i've discovered it, you are a guy, in the band, you play the flute, you attend band camps religiously, you get on here to make yourself feel important and feel like a big man, because the only thing smaller than your vertical stature is your horizontal stature, if it even exists. im glad this board has given you a place to raise you self esteem because you couldnt make it on the team.

careful, you dont wanna piss off D08

[BAMF cowboy]

Whatever loser

until this time next weekend ill probably just ignore every post by you, and then maybe we'll see if all of this was worth it

[Black&Gold06]

My respect still goes out to Cove's football team. But the fans at the game and the posters on the board certainly do not receive the same bit of gratitude. Yes, you beat a good Garland team somewhat decisively (i am sure you will argue "somewhat") but anyhow, after we beat Carter and JT we showed them nothing but class on this board and after we lost to you we showed you nothing but class. Cove fans here are attacking teams that they wont even play or have been eliminated. You have a very good team - but not near the long-running winning tradition of the teams you are slandering (Abilene, SLC) or one you have beaten (Garland). You have made it a long way in these playoffs, but please show some respect to the other programs.

[BAMF cowboy]

yeah, in the beginning of the playoffs i wanted Cove to come out of Region Two, upsetting either Longview or Lufkin, but now I just want Lufkin to take it to them, just so they know that Cove isn't quite there yet with the top-tier programs.

[trooper82d]

My respect still goes out to Cove's football team. But the fans at the game and the posters on the board certainly do not receive the same bit of gratitude. Yes, you beat a good Garland team somewhat decisively (i am sure you will argue "somewhat") but anyhow, after we beat Carter and JT we showed them nothing but class on this board and after we lost to you we showed you nothing but class. Cove fans here are attacking teams that they wont even play or have been eliminated. You have a very good team - but not near the long-running winning tradition of the teams you are slandering (Abilene, SLC) or one you have beaten (Garland). You have made it a long way in these playoffs, but please show some respect to the other programs.
I have'nt disrespected any team out there. I just have faith in the DAWGS. Let's get off the history thing. History can do nothing for the 52-0 Abilene lose or the Carter 12-7 lose. How can a high powered team like Carter only score 7 points, at least you scored some points (Abilene).

[mojo61]

Yes, Ab. was over-rated, & evidently Dist. 3-5a has slipped sev. notches--we can't even get a member past the qtr. finals anymore. Ab., if they had a game plan, executed it pathetically (not one trick play was called that I remember). The off. play-calling proceded w/ no heart or enthusiasm. I was disgusted w/ it all, but you have to support your team & your dist. mates in the playoffs.

I remember the days long ago when we used to laugh @ the great majority of DFW & other big city teams in the playoffs (Carter excepted) because we considered them weak, generally, & pushovers--but no more. The times have changed & we're not very good anymore. The towns in W. Texas can't seem to compete w/ the big-city teams & programs anymore for whatever reason.

I wish SLC & Plano the best of luck. It was good (in one way) to see a revived Plano program doing well. It just proves things go in cycles. Maybe West Texas teams will someday cycle back again into prominence. Until then, the city teams enjoy the spotlight for awhile--maybe a long while, who knows? Until then, I guess we'll just have to keep watching the Hollywood version of FNL. :)

[drgnbkr]

Yes, Ab. was over-rated, & evidently Dist. 3-5a has slipped sev. notches--we can't even get a member past the qtr. finals anymore. Ab., if they had a game plan, executed it pathetically (not one trick play was called that I remember). The off. play-calling proceded w/ no heart or enthusiasm. I was disgusted w/ it all, but you have to support your team & your dist. mates in the playoffs.

I remember the days long ago when we used to laugh @ the great majority of DFW & other big city teams in the playoffs (Carter excepted) because we considered them weak, generally, & pushovers--but no more. The times have changed & we're not very good anymore. The towns in W. Texas can't seem to compete w/ the big-city teams & programs anymore for whatever reason.

I wish SLC & Plano the best of luck. It was good (in one way) to see a revived Plano program doing well. It just proves things go in cycles. Maybe West Texas teams will someday cycle back again into prominence. Until then, the city teams enjoy the spotlight for awhile--maybe a long while, who knows? Until then, I guess we'll just have to keep watching the Hollywood version of FNL. :)

Damn, thats depressing...don't hang your head..the Eagles just ran into a superlative team last night..your guys were ready, well coached, backed by great fans and brought a very good record of accomplishment to the party. It just did'nt work out ..it almost did last year, and that alone should keep Abilene in the thick of things next year...good luck to the Eagles next year!

[trooper82d]

Damn, thats depressing...don't hang your head..the Eagles just ran into a superlative team last night..your guys were ready, well coached, backed by great fans and brought a very good record of accomplishment to the party. It just did'nt work out ..it almost did last year, and that alone should keep Abilene in the thick of things next year...good luck to the Eagles next year!You say that "your guys were ready" I would have hated to see if they were not ready maybe 104-0. Give me a break, your coachs prepared very poorly for this game. Not kid yourself. Who cares about what happen last year this is 2005. About next year good luck. GO DAWGS GO

[drgnbkr]

You say that "your guys were ready" I would have hated to see if they were not ready maybe 104-0. Give me a break, your coachs prepared very poorly for this game. Not kid yourself. Who cares about what happen last year this is 2005. About next year good luck. GO DAWGS GO

Why don't you go back to the Dairy Queen or whatever it is you do there..man..your more depressing than his story...get a life & get on a thread where someone might care..:eek:

[Eagles52]

Why don't you go back to the Dairy Queen or whatever it is you do there..man..your more depressing than his story...get a life & get on a thread where someone might care..:eek:


You know what your realy starting to be the only SLC fan i like. Im pleased that you fans have so much class. And yes we eagles did come ready but we just face a good team. Now im really starting to think that this Dawg kid really is a "Fat" looser who can talk alot of trash and can't evan do a push-up. get a life kid and show a lil class. ill be laffing next week if CCove loses 53-0 to lufkin.

[BAMF cowboy]

You know what your realy starting to be the only SLC fan i like. Im pleased that you fans have so much class. And yes we eagles did come ready but we just face a good team. Now im really starting to think that this Dawg kid really is a "Fat" looser who can talk alot of trash and can't evan do a push-up. get a life kid and show a lil class. ill be laffing next week if CCove loses 53-0 to lufkin.

i can do a pushup! 2,936 of them!

[Favpack]

It's all good win or lose I will always talk about those DAWGS!!!!!!!!!!

Pooper - it's way past your curfew - go get some sleep so you won't be late to work at the 7-11 morning shift. I like my coffee black btw and don't screw up the donuts again.

AHS had a very good team this year - they just got caught in the SLC whipsaw - they pressed the issue and everything backfired. Sounded as though Potts was off a bit as well. AHS is a quality program in my book. CCove may be as well - but it's low rent fans like Pooper really don't help the cause.

[mojo61]

Well, thanks for the kind words about Ab. Hi (some posters), but there's no way that you can sweet-coat it: Ab. was not up to playing a team like SLC. You can't be the #6 team in the st. & lose 52-0 against the #1 team in the st.--it just doesn't figure (& the #1 team chose not to pass too much or it would have been a zillion to nothing). Ab. was highly overrated & unprepared as far as I'm concerned. And I don't see any other conclusion to be drawn other than to say that Dist. 3-5A has slipped way down.

Although there weren't many pts. scored in the Plano/Mid. game today, Plano pretty well dominated Mid. fm. beginning to end. Our dist. teams just don't compete w/ the better teams in the st. anymore. O.k., there have been some "recent" exceptions: the 2004 Ab. team was a great team but didn't win the qtr. finals (also the '99 Ab. team or maybe it was '00); the 2002 Mid. team was a great team but didn't win the champ. game; Mid. Lee in '99, '00, & '01 won st. 3 times in a row (prob. courtesy of Cedric Benson for the most part); Permian made it to st. in '95 but lost.

I see a gradual decline here w/ the eastern half of the state predominating (I'm counting SA in the eastern half). Since Permian fell fm. grace about 9 yrs. ago, I don't see any teams out here consistently competing for the st. champ. anymore. Call it post-playoff depression or whatever you want; I'm just being realistic--I don't think this dist., yr. in & yr. out, rates anymore, & I'm sure I'm not the only fan in this dist. who shares that opinion (I can pretty well surmise what fans in the eastern half of the st. must really think; shoot, if I were they, I'd be thinking the same thing).

If other fans in my dist. aren't mad as he** & upset about it, they just aren't being honest. I didn't grad. fm. Ab. Hi, so I don't have to be a cheerleader & say sweet rah, rah things about the team & the coaches, etc. Maybe my prob. is I grew up in Odessa, & if you didn't @ least make it to the (I'll be charitable here) semi-finals, you didn't have a great season, & it was time for some soul-searching. Unrealistic attitude? He** yes, but that's how fb used to be played out west, & we don't play it that way anymore, & I, for one fan, hate it. If you don't feel passionate about this game, you shouldn't play it or be a fan of it, & that Ab. performance in Waco was the most un-passionate thing I've seen. I don't blame the boys, I blame the coaches. The worst playoff defeat in the history of this dist. :o

[warbird00]

If other fans in my dist. aren't mad as he** & upset about it, they just aren't being honest. I didn't grad. fm. Ab. Hi, so I don't have to be a cheerleader & say sweet rah, rah things about the team & the coaches, etc. Maybe my prob. is I grew up in Odessa, & if you didn't @ least make it to the (I'll be charitable here) semi-finals, you didn't have a great season, & it was time for some soul-searching. Unrealistic attitude? He** yes, but that's how fb used to be played out west, & we don't play it that way anymore, & I, for one fan, hate it. If you don't feel passionate about this game, you shouldn't play it or be a fan of it, & that Ab. performance in Waco was the most un-passionate thing I've seen. I don't blame the boys, I blame the coaches. The worst playoff defeat in the history of this dist. :o

Mojo61, I think you have stated my feelings exactly. These short playoff runs may be good enough to get the Cove fans in an uproar, but this crap just isnt good enough for a team like Abilene High. THe problem is that Abilene High fans are so willing to be content with medicoratiy that they refuse to say anything about it, and if you try to point it out they go crazy. Ahs WAS ABSOULTLY NOT READY TO PLAY FRIDAY NIGHT. No way. I am in no way implying that they should have beaten SLC, but to lose like that is to show utter inability to motivate, adapt, or controll anything. As momentum was flowing over to SLC, Warren refused to do ANYTHING to try and get it back, and your right, there were no trick plays, none of our mismatch formations, hell they didnt even take many shots down field until well after the game was decided. INstead of trying to claim some dignaty it was like he stuck with his pride, and refused to adjust his game plan at all. I am competly disappointed with the coaching job there, not because of the fact that we lost but because a VERY good team was allowed to implode on itself. If a team is going to be allowed to come to a game with this little passion, with such POOR preparedness, and a refusal to adapt, then we should let someone else in the playoffs. As for SLC goodluck, you guys really do have some very good fans and to trooper82, make the playoffs a couple more years and then come back to the Eagles. Say what you want about "past is the past" or whatever, your team HASNT EARNED the right to insult anyone.

[poolangel]

Hey trooper82d, where and how do you get that handle? I ask because I spent 11 years in the 82nd Airborne Division at Fort Bragg NC, and we called ourselves "troopers". We are a proud and distinguished bunch of guys who hold our heads high even into retirement. No need to talk smack either. We lived and did things other men only talk about. So I was just wondering....Go Dawgs

[drgnbkr]

Hey trooper82d, where and how do you get that handle? I ask because I spent 11 years in the 82nd Airborne Division at Fort Bragg NC, and we called ourselves "troopers". We are a proud and distinguished bunch of guys who hold our heads high even into retirement. No need to talk smack either. We lived and did things other men only talk about. So I was just wondering....Go Dawgs

Nice post poolangel...good luck to you guys next week..thanks for your service and God Bless.

[Owned05]

Trooper will be gone after they lose to Lufkin, don't yall worry.

We've seen this a few times this year, Fort Bend Marshall comes to mind. They disappeared, took 2 weeks, but they're gone.

[FootballJunkie]

Trooper will be gone after they lose to Lufkin, don't yall worry.

We've seen this a few times this year, Fort Bend Marshall comes to mind. They disappeared, took 2 weeks, but they're gone.

You sound pretty sure LP will win;)

[dragons08]

First of all you better hope you don't have to see us in the playoffs. We have some the best DB's in the state, period. As far turn-in your equipment goes we still have ours. We are not looking ahead of Lufkin. Plus I never said Lufkin was a bad team. I know we will have our hands full. GO DAWGS GO
you may have goods dbs, but our WR's are better!:D

oh yeah does the name tre newton mean a thing to you?

[dragons08]

careful, you dont wanna piss off D08
nah dont worry, trust me im not religiously into band or anything like that, yankeeman can vouch for me on that one

[dragons08]

i can do a pushup! 2,936 of them!
lame way to try and pick up chicks eh? :p

[poolangel]

Hey 08, I've been to watch SLC play as well as Lufkin. The reason I went was because I wanted to know about them in the remote event that we get an opportunity to play them. I know about Newton, Renfro. I met Nate up in the stands. BTW you have awesome fan support. I learned that Terry Bradshaw lives up that area to. Pretty rich football knowledge up there. Old Nate was on ESPN the other night when SLC got some honorable mention on TV. Some of us know about you. Will the team dye thier hair this year? Hope to play you soon. Go Dawgs

[dragons08]

Yes, Ab. was over-rated, & evidently Dist. 3-5a has slipped sev. notches--we can't even get a member past the qtr. finals anymore. Ab., if they had a game plan, executed it pathetically (not one trick play was called that I remember). The off. play-calling proceded w/ no heart or enthusiasm. I was disgusted w/ it all, but you have to support your team & your dist. mates in the playoffs.

I remember the days long ago when we used to laugh @ the great majority of DFW & other big city teams in the playoffs (Carter excepted) because we considered them weak, generally, & pushovers--but no more. The times have changed & we're not very good anymore. The towns in W. Texas can't seem to compete w/ the big-city teams & programs anymore for whatever reason.

I wish SLC & Plano the best of luck. It was good (in one way) to see a revived Plano program doing well. It just proves things go in cycles. Maybe West Texas teams will someday cycle back again into prominence. Until then, the city teams enjoy the spotlight for awhile--maybe a long while, who knows? Until then, I guess we'll just have to keep watching the Hollywood version of FNL. :)
woah woah woah, give your team some credit! you made it to the 3rd round of the playoffs! how many teams can say that? not many! also how many teams have kept SLC close in 5a? not many and you guys have in the past! it was awesome to see the support your fans have and how respectful they are, lets hope we meet up again next year, and i KNOW abilinie is already ready for that!

[dragons08]

Hey 08, I've been to watch SLC play as well as Lufkin. The reason I went was because I wanted to know about them in the remote event that we get an opportunity to play them. I know about Newton, Renfro. I met Nate up in the stands. BTW you have awesome fan support. I learned that Terry Bradshaw lives up that area to. Pretty rich football knowledge up there. Old Nate was on ESPN the other night when SLC got some honorable mention on TV. Some of us know about you. Will the team dye thier hair this year? Hope to play you soon. Go Dawgs
hairs been dyed for 3 weeks already!

terry bradshaw i think moved, or at least his house was for sale. and thank you for the comments about the suport Dragon Nation gives! i didnt get a chance to catch Nate Newton on tv, anybody know if they'll reair it?

[abilenefan]

Well, thanks for the kind words about Ab. Hi (some posters), but there's no way that you can sweet-coat it: Ab. was not up to playing a team like SLC. You can't be the #6 team in the st. & lose 52-0 against the #1 team in the st.--it just doesn't figure (& the #1 team chose not to pass too much or it would have been a zillion to nothing). Ab. was highly overrated & unprepared as far as I'm concerned. And I don't see any other conclusion to be drawn other than to say that Dist. 3-5A has slipped way down.

Although there weren't many pts. scored in the Plano/Mid. game today, Plano pretty well dominated Mid. fm. beginning to end. Our dist. teams just don't compete w/ the better teams in the st. anymore. O.k., there have been some "recent" exceptions: the 2004 Ab. team was a great team but didn't win the qtr. finals (also the '99 Ab. team or maybe it was '00); the 2002 Mid. team was a great team but didn't win the champ. game; Mid. Lee in '99, '00, & '01 won st. 3 times in a row (prob. courtesy of Cedric Benson for the most part); Permian made it to st. in '95 but lost.

I see a gradual decline here w/ the eastern half of the state predominating (I'm counting SA in the eastern half). Since Permian fell fm. grace about 9 yrs. ago, I don't see any teams out here consistently competing for the st. champ. anymore. Call it post-playoff depression or whatever you want; I'm just being realistic--I don't think this dist., yr. in & yr. out, rates anymore, & I'm sure I'm not the only fan in this dist. who shares that opinion (I can pretty well surmise what fans in the eastern half of the st. must really think; shoot, if I were they, I'd be thinking the same thing).

If other fans in my dist. aren't mad as he** & upset about it, they just aren't being honest. I didn't grad. fm. Ab. Hi, so I don't have to be a cheerleader & say sweet rah, rah things about the team & the coaches, etc. Maybe my prob. is I grew up in Odessa, & if you didn't @ least make it to the (I'll be charitable here) semi-finals, you didn't have a great season, & it was time for some soul-searching. Unrealistic attitude? He** yes, but that's how fb used to be played out west, & we don't play it that way anymore, & I, for one fan, hate it. If you don't feel passionate about this game, you shouldn't play it or be a fan of it, & that Ab. performance in Waco was the most un-passionate thing I've seen. I don't blame the boys, I blame the coaches. The worst playoff defeat in the history of this dist. :o

Yes Abilene played like they were overated. I personally believe that we had a bad bad game. We had a better game in us. It just did not work out and I do believe the coaches had a better game in them as well.

Folks, I am not content but I am a realist. Coach Warren and staff have done an outstanding job in bringing this program to a very respecible level from the bottom of the barrell. He and his staff were hurting right along with the kids last night. I am very proud of their record and accomplishments. Am I satisfied? NO. Are they satisfied? All things considered putting together a playoff calibur team year in year out (7 straight) in a district where over half of the kids are on reduced lunches and from single parent families is not an easy task IMHO.

As far as the future, Abilene has reached the level that we can reload. We had 3 returning starters both sides of the ball. We will be a playoff team next year. We will make a deeper run in the next few years as we have extremely good numbers and some very good talent in the pipeline. We will start slower next year but we will reload and win our new metroplex district. (This is district will no longer be the same - the end of the Little Southwest Conference as we know it).

West Texas Football on the 5A level will never be as dominant as it once was. That level of dominance has gone the way of the economy and the population. Mojo61 is exactly correct. The next dominant program we will see in West Texas in the larger classification will be Abilene Wylie...the closest thing WT has to a SLC. I'm fixing to ruffle some feathers but here goes....the economics mostly to do with the discipline and education in higher income families will continue to be the one single factor in winning year in year out in a big way. The second factor is the one high school community. Eventually even SL will add a second school and that will be the beginning of the end of their extremely impressive run.

I am not saying that you will never see a larger school state champ from West Texas just that you'll never see the dominance that Abilene once enjoyed in the 50's, Midland Lee enjoyed in the 90's and Permian in the 80's and 90's. I think those are the facts as depressing as it may seem.

[dragonsdaddy]

slc will not have a second school. we are landlocked and can't grow more than another 5-10 percent.

[Dawg Fan]

Yes Abilene played like they were overated. I personally believe that we had a bad bad game. We had a better game in us. It just did not work out and I do believe the coaches had a better game in them as well.

Folks, I am not content but I am a realist. Coach Warren and staff have done an outstanding job in bringing this program to a very respecible level from the bottom of the barrell. He and his staff were hurting right along with the kids last night. I am very proud of their record and accomplishments. Am I satisfied? NO. Are they satisfied? All things considered putting together a playoff calibur team year in year out (7 straight) in a district where over half of the kids are on reduced lunches and from single parent families is not an easy task IMHO.

As far as the future, Abilene has reached the level that we can reload. We had 3 returning starters both sides of the ball. We will be a playoff team next year. We will make a deeper run in the next few years as we have extremely good numbers and some very good talent in the pipeline. We will start slower next year but we will reload and win our new metroplex district. (This is district will no longer be the same - the end of the Little Southwest Conference as we know it).

West Texas Football on the 5A level will never be as dominant as it once was. That level of dominance has gone the way of the economy and the population. Mojo61 is exactly correct. The next dominant program we will see in West Texas in the larger classification will be Abilene Wylie...the closest thing WT has to a SLC. I'm fixing to ruffle some feathers but here goes....the economics mostly to do with the discipline and education in higher income families will continue to be the one single factor in winning year in year out in a big way. The second factor is the one high school community. Eventually even SL will add a second school and that will be the beginning of the end of their extremely impressive run.

I am not saying that you will never see a larger school state champ from West Texas just that you'll never see the dominance that Abilene once enjoyed in the 50's, Midland Lee enjoyed in the 90's and Permian in the 80's and 90's. I think those are the facts as depressing as it may seem.


nice post though a little misguided. Midland and Odessa are seeing a lot of growth right now and I don't see oil prices coming down for quite some time. Every program goes through peaks and valleys. West Texas football will be just fine thank you very much. You can no more predict the future than you can predict the weather out here. I understand your disappointment with the Eagles losing as bad as they did but that doesn't mean that West Texas football is dead. Times change. Its just a matter of time before Dodge takes that step up to college coaching. And suppose if other towns go to the two high school approach like SLC. A 9th and 10th grade High School and a 11th and 12the grade high school. Imagine what talent cities like Abilene and Midland and Odessa could put on the field if we did that.:eek: JMO

[BulldogLuver]

A 9th and 10th grade High School and a 11th and 12the grade high school. Imagine what talent cities like Abilene and Midland and Odessa could put on the field if we did that.:eek: JMO

I don't see that ever happening in either Midland or Odessa. There is too much split animosity for the schools in these towns to ever think that would work. We had a bond issue several years ago here in Midland that was just for that idea and it failed and failed miserably. I don't think that people would go for it as proved by that vote.

[dragonsdaddy]

abilene declined same last year or so.

[thestud]

woah woah woah, give your team some credit! you made it to the 3rd round of the playoffs! how many teams can say that? not many! also how many teams have kept SLC close in 5a? not many and you guys have in the past! it was awesome to see the support your fans have and how respectful they are, lets hope we meet up again next year, and i KNOW abilinie is already ready for that!




no, abilene is not his team, he is a kitty cat from odessa living in abilene. a true fan would never say that about their team, and a real football fan would know thats not true. we had a freaking terrible night, but does mean that the other 12 wins were luck?

[drgnbkr]

nice post though a little misguided. Midland and Odessa are seeing a lot of growth right now and I don't see oil prices coming down for quite some time. Every program goes through peaks and valleys. West Texas football will be just fine thank you very much. You can no more predict the future than you can predict the weather out here. I understand your disappointment with the Eagles losing as bad as they did but that doesn't mean that West Texas football is dead. Times change. Its just a matter of time before Dodge takes that step up to college coaching. And suppose if other towns go to the two high school approach like SLC. A 9th and 10th grade High School and a 11th and 12the grade high school. Imagine what talent cities like Abilene and Midland and Odessa could put on the field if we did that.:eek: JMO

I don't understand your point about Carroll's split campus...the four grades still total up to the 4th largest school in our district & one of the smaller 5-A schools in Texas...there is no "talent" advantage whatsoever to splitting the campus...Southlake has had a winning tradition since the mid 80's and no class wants to be the ones to lose...

[Redneckn]

I not being cocky about the DAWGS, I just have plenty of faith in them.


You're right.. You aren't being cocky at all. Being cocky and being a pr!ck are 2 completely different things...

You make me laff a little because I know after the home town arse beating CC will recieve next weekend we will either not have to see you here or you will be here to offer a wide array of excuses as to why your team got walked on.

It really is a shame that you alone are giving the fine fans of CC a bad name with all your crap spewing.

[Dawg Fan]

I don't understand your point about Carroll's split campus...the four grades still total up to the 4th largest school in our district & one of the smaller 5-A schools in Texas...there is no "talent" advantage whatsoever to splitting the campus...Southlake has had a winning tradition since the mid 80's and no class wants to be the ones to lose...


there is no "talent" advantage whatsoever to splitting the campus..

I have to disagree with you on that. If we could have the choice of all the juniors and seniors in town to make one varsity football team I think we could hang with SLC. If you had two 10th through 12th grade high schools the talent pool would be cut in half. Look what it did to Plano when they started to open more high schools.

[dragonsdaddy]

there is no "talent" advantage whatsoever to splitting the campus..

I have to disagree with you on that. If we could have the choice of all the juniors and seniors in town to make one varsity football team I think we could hang with SLC. If you had two 10th through 12th grade high schools the talent pool would be cut in half. Look what it did to Plano when they started to open more high schools.
but plano was a 9-10 11-12 hs situation before pesh opened. the numbers eligible to play varsity athletics are the same regardless which building they attend. i agree about splitting us in half. we would have 2 smallish 4a schools and a divided town support. we fought tooth and nail to keep many of the local losers from making that the case about 5 years ago. the rest of the state has been paying for our victory on that issue ever since.

[BAMF cowboy]

there is no "talent" advantage whatsoever to splitting the campus..

I have to disagree with you on that. If we could have the choice of all the juniors and seniors in town to make one varsity football team I think we could hang with SLC. If you had two 10th through 12th grade high schools the talent pool would be cut in half. Look what it did to Plano when they started to open more high schools.

yes but you are talking about splitting into two high schools?

i think what drgnbkr was saying is that there is no advantage to a school district with a 9-10 campus and a 11-12 campus like slc, compared to a district with a a 9 - 12 cmapus

[Dawg Fan]

but plano was a 9-10 11-12 hs situation before pesh opened. the numbers eligible to play varsity athletics are the same regardless which building they attend. i agree about splitting us in half. we would have 2 smallish 4a schools and a divided town support. we fought tooth and nail to keep many of the local losers from making that the case about 5 years ago. the rest of the state has been paying for our victory on that issue ever since.

but plano was a 9-10 11-12 hs situation before pesh opened.


That proves my point. Plano was a powerhouse before that happened. I just believe that when you split the high schools that way you give an advantage to them and it is a disadvantage to the towns that go with two high schools 10-12th. That is not SLC's fault by any means. They are just using the system to their advantage. I'll bet their JV hasn't lost in forever either. Just a guess on my part.

[Dawg Fan]

yes but you are talking about splitting into two high schools?

i think what drgnbkr was saying is that there is no advantage to a school district with a 9-10 campus and a 11-12 campus like slc, compared to a district with a a 9 - 12 cmapus

there is a clear advantage when you look the the fact that the juniors and seniors are split between two high schools. If we were to merge MHS and Midland Lee's juniors and seniors we could really put together a powerhouse. The result of combining the 9th and 10th grades would do the same for the JV.

[my3sons]

eveyone likes to mention the SLC offense. 52 points against Abilene is impressive, however, 7 of those came from the defense. The defense has shut out the playoff opponent in the first half in each of the 3 playoff games. Cumulative, SLC has won the first halves of each of the 3 playoff games by a margin of 110-0. When you have that kind of lead game plans get thrown out the window. The combination of an explosive offense and a defense that stifles the opposing ofense is an ingredient for success. By the way, 2 campuses total 2150 kids. Half of those are girls. SLC is a small 5A school no matter if they have 5 campuses. You want to stert counting the 2 middle schools (7-8th grade) in their high school enrollment numbers?:)

[dragonsdaddy]

but plano was a 9-10 11-12 hs situation before pesh opened.


That proves my point. Plano was a powerhouse before that happened. I just believe that when you split the high schools that way you give an advantage to them and it is a disadvantage to the towns that go with two high schools 10-12th. That is not SLC's fault by any means. They are just using the system to their advantage. I'll bet their JV hasn't lost in forever either. Just a guess on my part.
so pesh taking half the talent didn't effect plano enough to keep them from winning 3 more title in the next 13 years, after going 2 hs. why don't teams like pesh and the woodlands whose 11-12 schools outnumber slc's 9-12 totals whip up annually. we are one school(a bottom third in size 5a school) because we chose not to be 2 4a schools. i guess if you are convinced that the way you divide up and bus kids all over town give a school an advantage on fridays, then you need to talk to your local school board and make the change. it was more fiscally responsible for us to do it that way, in all actuality. we would be the same team if we were a 10-12 anyway.

[BAMF cowboy]

there is a clear advantage when you look the the fact that the juniors and seniors are split between two high schools. If we were to merge MHS and Midland Lee's juniors and seniors we could really put together a powerhouse. The result of combining the 9th and 10th grades would do the same for the JV.

no you are missing the point completely

Of course there is a disadvantage in situations such as Midland where they have 2 high schools in that town.

Compared to that, a single high school town such as Southlake has a clear advantage, being able to run it's program from the get go in 7th grade, knowing all the talent, and working with it.

But how is there an advntage between a one school town such as Copperas Cove with a a 9 - 12 campus, or Southlake with a 9 - 10 campus, and a 11 - 12 campus. You still have the exact same student body no matter what, it just so happens 9th and 10th graders have classes at a different campus. In that regard there is no advntage one way or the other.

[drgnbkr]

I agree on the split campuses..I don't think they are understanding what is going on. We have Carroll High School & Carroll Senior High School..they both add up to 2100 students in 9 through 12. What does Midland Lee & Midland have to do with that? If you combined both you'd have what 6,000 students? Thats why you have the two high schools. Plano East is 5,000 plus, Plano is probably 3,400 and West is over 3,000 right?

[BAMF cowboy]

I agree on the split campuses..I don't think they are understanding what is going on. We have Carroll High School & Carroll Senior High School..they both add up to 2100 students in 9 through 12. What does Midland Lee & Midland have to do with that? If you combined both you'd have what 6,000 students? Thats why you have the two high schools. Plano East is 5,000 plus, Plano is probably 3,400 and West is over 3,000 right?

they should combine to form a super high school, and an super football team

[dragonsdaddy]

there is a clear advantage when you look the the fact that the juniors and seniors are split between two high schools. If we were to merge MHS and Midland Lee's juniors and seniors we could really put together a powerhouse. The result of combining the 9th and 10th grades would do the same for the JV.
all 3 plano schools dwarf slc. i wouldn't be surprised if the midland schools do too. were mlee and mhs be united, once the rivalries were quelled, they would be huge, but no bigger than pesh, or plano probably, so that argument means only that mush(midland united sr hi) would go d-1 every year they made the po's.

[dragonsdaddy]

they should combine to form a super high school, and an super football team
i think all the plano hs are over 4k.

[Dawg Fan]

I agree on the split campuses..I don't think they are understanding what is going on. We have Carroll High School & Carroll Senior High School..they both add up to 2100 students in 9 through 12. What does Midland Lee & Midland have to do with that? If you combined both you'd have what 6,000 students? Thats why you have the two high schools. Plano East is 5,000 plus, Plano is probably 3,400 and West is over 3,000 right?

Your right about that. I didn't take into account the lower overall enrollment. I take back my argument because it has no grounds. :o It seemed like a plausable idea at the time. Too much Egg Nog:eek: