Plano will Steamroll Trinity.

[TrojanHorse03]

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=378&f=3518&t=3410551

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=378&f=3518&t=3410551


Matt has no love for Plano, he is a East Side homer. What he actually said is logical think if you think Plano will win. Plano can't turn the ball over and cause a couple and they will win.

[Rapture]

i think plano wins

[HebronHawk]

I was sitting next to Matt in the Texas Stadium pressbox during the Trinity game. They looked pretty impressive from where I was sitting.

Not sure why Matt saw it differently.:confused:

Maybe it depended on how well you knew the Marcus team and their quality. Certainly a lot of hitting going on between those two teams.

24-10 is a quality loss for Marcus, which doesn't make it easier.

[NHB06]

That statement from Diggs is shocking. Diggs loves East, but hates everything Plano.

[Trinity Trojan Fan For Li]

Bulletin board motivation for ET.

[HSFootball#1]

Game comes down to two key factors, ET stopping Burkhead & company and Plano not getting held to much and shut down the average RB's of Trinity. If that happens with the ref's calling ET for all their holds (tackling defenders from the back is holding last I checked) then I could see Plano sending ET home. But with Plano's weak Defense not sure it will. Sound like fun and won't miss it.

[abileneeagles311]

Game comes down to two key factors, ET stopping Burkhead & company and Plano not getting held to much and shut down the average RB's of Trinity. If that happens with the ref's calling ET for all their holds (tackling defenders from the back is holding last I checked) then I could see Plano sending ET home. But with Plano's weak Defense not sure it will. Sound like fun and won't miss it.
i don't think you can stop Burkhead but ET can definitely contain him.

[Wypirates03]

I was sitting next to Matt in the Texas Stadium pressbox during the Trinity game. They looked pretty impressive from where I was sitting.

Not sure why Matt saw it differently.:confused:

Maybe it depended on how well you knew the Marcus team and their quality. Certainly a lot of hitting going on between those two teams.

24-10 is a quality loss for Marcus, which doesn't make it easier.

Ah...so that was you sir.

[stinger]

I was sitting next to Matt in the Texas Stadium pressbox during the Trinity game. They looked pretty impressive from where I was sitting.





Not sure why Matt saw it differently.:confused:

Maybe it depended on how well you knew the Marcus team and their quality. Certainly a lot of hitting going on between those two teams.

24-10 is a quality loss for Marcus, which doesn't make it easier.


Matt has always been a Trinity hater, no matter who they are playing. His football knowledge shows when he speaks or writes. I think a cheerleader could do a better job of being objective. His articles are a waste of reading time energy.

[TrojanHorse03]

i don't think you can stop Burkhead but ET can definitely contain him.

No one does, which is understandable. Trinity knows first hand Rex is the truth and a beast, nothing but respect for him. And it's gonna be even harder than last year when there likely gonna give him the ball in every way possible this year, nothing is out of the question hb passes, the whole "Wildcat" package they've been saving for Trinity.

[stinger]

Game comes down to two key factors, ET stopping Burkhead & company and Plano not getting held to much and shut down the average RB's of Trinity. If that happens with the ref's calling ET for all their holds (tackling defenders from the back is holding last I checked) then I could see Plano sending ET home. But with Plano's weak Defense not sure it will. Sound like fun and won't miss it.

Another example of your lack of vision, football knowledge, and ability to discuss. Those " average" backs for Trinity have been beating everybody. Where is your team? Maybe you should be with them, discussing the "maybe next year" pep talks.

[TrojanHorse03]

Matt has always been a Trinity hater, no matter who they are playing.

Perhaps, but he is right, Trinity is gonna have it's hands full containing the Wildcat offense. It is gonna take a GREAT week of preparation to keep Trinity from going home in the 2nd round of the playoffs like 2006.

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

Matt has always been a Trinity hater, no matter who they are playing. His football knowledge shows when he speaks or writes. I think a cheerleader could do a better jo of being objective. His articles are a waste of reading time energy.


So different opinions means he should be a cheerleader. Matt is a smart man. He is drawing alot of interest to his blog and its being discussed. That's what opinionated columists do!!!

I watch Bill Maher on HBO and everytime I roll my eyes and cuss at the screen but I still watch him.:eek:

[powerofthehaka]

So different opinions means he should be a cheerleader. Matt is a smart man. He is drawing alot of interest to his blog and its being discussed. That's what opinionated columists do!!!

I watch Bill Maher on HBO and everytime I roll my eyes and cuss at the screen but I still watch him.:eek:

This explains alot.:eek:

[da hawaiian]

I wonder what qualifies someone to be a sports writer these days?

I guess he missed the ET Nose tackle completely dominate the AB gap, or Earnest Norman's foot for foot speed with Hopkins down the sideline to limit a big gainer, or the constant penetration of D lineman consistantly disrupting blocking and running lanes allowing the linebackers to sit back in a shallow zone and pick off a badly thrown pass over the middle, or the sublime discipline of the of the DE and Rover as they kept their assignments and turned Marcus's playaction off the naked bootleg rollout (which had burned us on their first drive) go for a loss as the QB runs out of bounds, or the fact that Marcus only touched the ball twice in the first half and only 2 times in the 2nd?

I don't know what game he was watching but the game I saw, I lapped it all up.

[rocketgrl94]

i'll put my 2 cents in, im betting on Trinity to win this! :D

[TrojanHorse03]

I personally look at it like it this way, Matt Diggs is saying prove me wrong because if a good Plano team who's better than Marcus wins he'll be telling the world told ya so.

[Wypirates03]

Here's my take.

Plano has a chance, but I don't like their odds.

Plano will need to score on all 3 drives they have in the game to win. 1 mistate = game over.

We know Trinity is going to just bulldoze their way through the Plano defense like it was Swiss cheese.

The secondary for trinity is pretty fast! Their linebackers hit the the gaps on their blitzes almost better than any team I have seen, ever. Their defensive line will make you cringe as you know they're going to be in the backfield every play.

Offensively I have never seen a team run an offense so cleanly perfected. Every play was snapped with 1-3 seconds on the play clock. 6-7 minute drives every time down field in 15+ plays.

THAT is why Trinity wins. They keep Plano's offense off the field, and that is Plano's strong point.

Trinity 28, Plano 13

[Wypirates03]

I was sitting next to Matt in the Texas Stadium pressbox during the Trinity game. They looked pretty impressive from where I was sitting.

Not sure why Matt saw it differently.:confused:

Maybe it depended on how well you knew the Marcus team and their quality. Certainly a lot of hitting going on between those two teams.

24-10 is a quality loss for Marcus, which doesn't make it easier.

I agree with you on that one. Trinity looked like a very...very good team. I'd hate for them to be D2!

And... I was sitting by Matt... so, does that make us brothers? lol, j/k

[TrojanHorse03]

We know Trinity is going to just bulldoze their way through the Plano defense like it was Swiss cheese.


Denarius McGee and co. would be wise not to assume that, DON'T EAT THE CHEESE even though everyone will be telling them that all week. The Plano D will be at it's best on Saturday and it would be unwise to take them lightly. Good teams prepare for their opponents at their best, can Trinity beat Plano if they're the team that makes mistakes or is down at half :confused:?

[Wypirates03]

Denarius McGee and co. would be wise not to assume that, DON'T EAT THE CHEESE even though everyone will be telling them that all week. The Plano D will be at it's best on Saturday and it would be unwise to take them lightly. Good teams prepare for their opponents at their best, can Trinity beat Plano if they're the team that makes mistakes or is down at half :confused:?

I agree. But, Plano has a very porous defense. So, It doesn't matter what is said on the message boards. Unless they change over night..

[HSFootball#1]

Another example of your lack of vision, football knowledge, and ability to discuss. Those " average" backs for Trinity have been beating everybody. Where is your team? Maybe you should be with them, discussing the "maybe next year" pep talks.

Look who's talking, what are you doing on the Plano-ET thread and not on the Burleson thread loser? Oh cause they will lose this week to so jumping on the bandwagon. No support for anyone, huh stinger, take your short bus out of here.

[TrojanHorse03]

I agree. But, Plano has a very porous defense. So, It doesn't matter what is said on the message boards. Unless they change over night..

I'm not disputing Plano's defense has had problems but...that doesn't mean they can't play better, well enough for Plano to win on Saturday.

[Wypirates03]

I'm not disputing Plano's defense has had problems but...that doesn't mean they can't play better, well enough for Plano to win on Saturday.

Ok, you want me to change my pick...

Plano by 3 :notworthy

[BlackAttack]

Last year, Trinity made the 3rd round game with Permian their statement game. I predict the Trojans make their statement game a week earlier this time. Trinity wins big.

[goodessa]

i think plano wins
me too

[THSBandDad]

Game comes down to two key factors, ET stopping Burkhead & company and Plano not getting held to much and shut down the average RB's of Trinity. If that happens with the ref's calling ET for all their holds (tackling defenders from the back is holding last I checked) then I could see Plano sending ET home. But with Plano's weak Defense not sure it will. Sound like fun and won't miss it.

You need to look up the stats of the Trinity RB's as compared to Trinity's RB's before you make such a statement.

That whole "when is holding going to be called" issue has been going on all year, BOTH WAYS.

[HSFootball#1]

You need to look up the stats of the Trinity RB's as compared to Trinity's RB's before you make such a statement.

That whole "when is holding going to be called" issue has been going on all year, BOTH WAYS.

LOL, like having such a huge line would not skew an RB's stats to make them look better then they actually are? Really showing your smarts here and why would I can compare Trinity RB to Trinity RB about as much nonsense as you think any of your RBs are really any good.:rolleyes:

Holding is tackling the defender like ET does everyplay, not the kind others say could be called every down...learn some football dude or back to the band.

[FMJags490]

The hate for Diggs is ridiculous.

[dragonpants]

Game comes down to two key factors, ET stopping Burkhead & company and Plano not getting held to much and shut down the average RB's of Trinity. If that happens with the ref's calling ET for all their holds (tackling defenders from the back is holding last I checked) then I could see Plano sending ET home. But with Plano's weak Defense not sure it will. Sound like fun and won't miss it.

So that is the reason for Trinity's success, they do not get called for holding enough, wow.
I am sure Plano never holds.
That is what you are basing your prediction on, the refs.
You are an idiot, average running backs?, 5 deep.....Trinity rolls, your defense is horrible, your quarterback is overated and you simply do not match up along the line on either side of the ball, I am on board with Farmerfan................Plano sucks!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry Trojan fans I know you guys like to fly under the radar, but this guy is friggin ridiculous. I am staying all day next week to sit with ya'll and watch you beat Plano yet again............

22 Trojans will always beat one superman.

[BlackAttack]

The hate for Diggs is ridiculous.

Not really. The boy spends way too much time patting himself on the back.

[FMJags490]

No he doesn't. All he does is work his *** off writing articles and all I see are people insulting him instead of disagreeing with him.

[THSBandDad]

LOL, like having such a huge line would not skew an RB's stats to make them look better then they actually are? Really showing your smarts here and why would I can compare Trinity RB to Trinity RB about as much nonsense as you think any of your RBs are really any good.:rolleyes:

Holding is tackling the defender like ET does everyplay, not the kind others say could be called every down...learn some football dude or back to the band.

I did mistype. Compare total rushing yards by the two teams in the discussion. Plano is a one-man show when it comes to rushing. Albeit a very good young man.

I believe that Trinity's line is smaller than in past years and not as big as some other area teams.

BTW, why is it that every time someone tries to make a point with you, go go all personal with your attacks. I've seen in through many threads. Try growing up and showing some maturity.

[TrojanHorse03]

No he doesn't. All he does is work his *** off writing articles and all I see are people insulting him instead of disagreeing with him.

That's not true, some people don't like him but some people are disagreeing with his assessments, like the Trinity D not being able to stop the Plano O. But plain and simple if Plano wins, which could definitely happen he's right and can say he told ya so.

[da wiz]

matt picked against us,,, so yeah im feeling better about the game now,
he always picks against us, we usually win.....

[BlackAttack]

No he doesn't. All he does is work his *** off writing articles and all I see are people insulting him instead of disagreeing with him.

Boo hoo. He shouldn't spend so much time slobbering all over himself. he also spends way too much time insulting other people who are also passionate about hs football, such as the guys who run this site. Matt Diggs is as unprofessional and unclassy as they come.

[Butch Fifield]

I think Trinity wins. Good defense is important in these games. Plano doesn't have it.

[HebronHawk]

I agree with you on that one. Trinity looked like a very...very good team. I'd hate for them to be D2!

And... I was sitting by Matt... so, does that make us brothers? lol, j/k

brothers of another mother next week, I fear, as we beat the Pirates from Wylie.

[Tsup]

I've never heard such babbeling in all my life you obviously know as much about Trinity football as the man in the moon, The backs are way better than average and the line is what makes them go. Trinitys lineman block downfield and you call that holding. Check combined stats and the fact they still have every back healthy and ready to go. I will definatley make sure your post ends up on the offensive linemans locker, thanks I am more than sure the coaches will appreciate the comments. Now please tell me how plano is going to stop Trinity and please check your stats on where Planos defense is rated and where trinitys defense is rated ? if plano relys totally on Rex they will get there butt kicked straight to next year !!!LOL, like having such a huge line would not skew an RB's stats to make them look better then they actually are? Really showing your smarts here and why would I can compare Trinity RB to Trinity RB about as much nonsense as you think any of your RBs are really any good.:rolleyes:

Holding is tackling the defender like ET does everyplay, not the kind others say could be called every down...learn some football dude or back to the band.

[Tsup]

Diggs is ridiculous, how about making some valid points that can be backed up, on the other hand maybe he can work his way into being the next skip bayless !!The hate for Diggs is ridiculous.

[TrojanHorse03]

Diggs is ridiculous, how about making some valid points that can be backed up, on the other hand maybe he can work his way into being the next skip bayless !!

Sometimes "Skip" may be right.

[Tsup]

Sometimes a blind squirell can find a acorn :) i dont have a problem with anyone predicting a Plano win heck there 10-1 and definatley have the talent to win any one game. But to come out and say Plano wins because Trinity is a inferior team just isnt the case. Trinity is a class program and Lineweaver is not just a great coach hes a better human being. They dont just teach football they teach unity, teamwork, sacrafice. There are no individuals everything is done for the sake of the team and the team improving every week. If Trinity loses and plano wins Trinity kids will be the first out to shake there hand and wish them good luck. Trinity fans will be the first to tell plano good game and good luck.
But this this will not be is a blowout and for anyone to say it will is ridiculous. Actually I think this thread is just meant to get a rise out of Trinity fans, and if he picks against Trinity all the time hes wrong alot more than hes right. Sometimes "Skip" may be right.

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

Sometimes a blind squirell can find a acorn :) i dont have a problem with anyone predicting a Plano win heck there 10-1 and definatley have the talent to win any one game. But to come out and say Plano wins because Trinity is a inferior team just isnt the case. Trinity is a class program and Lineweaver is not just a great coach hes a better human being. They dont just teach football they teach unity, teamwork, sacrafice. There are no individuals everything is done for the sake of the team and the team improving every week. If Trinity loses and plano wins Trinity kids will be the first out to shake there hand and wish them good luck. Trinity fans will be the first to tell plano good game and good luck.
But this this will not be is a blowout and for anyone to say it will is ridiculous. Actually I think this thread is just meant to get a rise out of Trinity fans, and if he picks against Trinity all the time hes wrong alot more than hes right.

Digg's has an opinion disagree but stop the insults.

Plano has better Offensive talent in QB, RB & WR, Olines are equal IMO,

Trinity has some studs on Defense & Plano plays 18 mighty mites on the D.


I don't get the rant concerning Lineweaver and the program he runs. Sure he runs a good program and instills values and work ethic, How does that address Diggs assement that Plano win's. He's picking Plano because he feels they have the better football team and thats it.

[alleneaglefan07]

well to say the least allen has a way better d than plano and trinitys offense just kept getting first downs like it was programmed into thier systems. it was a machine that couldnt be stopped. clock managment kept our offense of the field and even when it was thier d was outstanding. now moving on the the plano game. offense was off beat all night and the def...def...defense:confused:: was no where to be found. i say that plano bieng our neighboor and 8-5a runner up that they can do it. my heart says they can. but my brain says they cant. i really think its who wants it more at the end of the day. when the whistle blows who left it all out on the field?? stats...histoy...everything is out the window. its just you and them. and who gave it thier all. so i belive plano wants it more. close one...but 35-34 plano.

and i hope allen and plano can rematch:D:D:D
we'll take thier lunch money again;)
go plano

[THSBandDad]

well to say the least allen has a way better d than plano and trinitys offense just kept getting first downs like it was programmed into thier systems. it was a machine that couldnt be stopped. clock managment kept our offense of the field and even when it was thier d was outstanding. now moving on the the plano game. offense was off beat all night and the def...def...defense:confused:: was no where to be found. i say that plano bieng our neighboor and 8-5a runner up that they can do it. my heart says they can. but my brain says they cant. i really think its who wants it more at the end of the day. when the whistle blows who left it all out on the field?? stats...histoy...everything is out the window. its just you and them. and who gave it thier all. so i belive plano wants it more. close one...but 35-34 plano.

and i hope allen and plano can rematch:D
we'll take thier lunch money again;)
go plano

Given the outcome of your games against these two opponents, I can understand why you want Plano again. :D:D

[alleneaglefan07]

Given the outcome of your games against these two opponents, I can understand why you want Plano again. :D:D

lol either way. a team is always harder to beat a second time around. trinity will definatly have thier hands full if we get the chance at a rematch. bieng it was the first time we played trinity we learned alot about them. and we CAN beat them. its not a matter of luck either. if anyone has the best shot at it. we do. as for wanting plano to win again thier our brother. and we just keep giving them swirlies. and pinning them on the ground and spitting and then sucking it back up again. lol its a love hate relationship. it would be a great game. and id like to have something else to brag about. but as far as this saturday goes. i say plano pulls it off. they have a great team and we all know burkhead aka superman. so it should be a classic.

go plano wildcats

[TrojanHorse03]

well to say the least allen has a way better d than plano and trinitys offense just kept getting first downs like it was programmed into thier systems. it was a machine that couldnt be stopped. clock managment kept our offense of the field and even when it was thier d was outstanding. now moving on the the plano game. offense was off beat all night and the def...def...defense:confused:: was no where to be found. i say that plano bieng our neighboor and 8-5a runner up that they can do it. my heart says they can. but my brain says they cant. i really think its who wants it more at the end of the day. when the whistle blows who left it all out on the field?? stats...histoy...everything is out the window. its just you and them. and who gave it thier all. so i belive plano wants it more. close one...but 35-34 plano.

and i hope allen and plano can rematch:D:D:D
we'll take thier lunch money again;)
go plano

That's definitely one area where Trinity is underrated. I don't think the fact that the Trinity defense's and particularly the offense and individual players don't get nearly as much respect as the Plano O and the Triplets has gone unnoticed by the Trinity players.

[TrojanHorse03]

lol either way. a team is always harder to beat a second time around. trinity will definatly have thier hands full if we get the chance at a rematch. bieng it was the first time we played trinity we learned alot about them. and we CAN beat them. its not a matter of luck either. if anyone has the best shot at it. we do. as for wanting plano to win again thier our brother. and we just keep giving them swirlies. and pinning them on the ground and spitting and then sucking it back up again. lol its a love hate relationship. it would be a great game. and id like to have something else to brag about. but as far as this saturday goes. i say plano pulls it off. they have a great team and we all know burkhead aka superman. so it should be a classic.

go plano wildcats

LOL, it was Trinity's 1st time playing Allen too, and it was on the road but anyways Trinity can only play one rematch at a time.

[alleneaglefan07]

LOL, it was Trinity's 1st time playing Allen too, and it was on the road but anyways Trinity can only play one rematch at a time.

well good luck with plano. as for allen were gonna take care of coppell real fast and hopefully get by mojo. then its hello euless. ill be waitin.

[THSBandDad]

lol either way. a team is always harder to beat a second time around. trinity will definatly have thier hands full if we get the chance at a rematch. bieng it was the first time we played trinity we learned alot about them. and we CAN beat them. its not a matter of luck either. if anyone has the best shot at it. we do. as for wanting plano to win again thier our brother. and we just keep giving them swirlies. and pinning them on the ground and spitting and then sucking it back up again. lol its a love hate relationship. it would be a great game. and id like to have something else to brag about. but as far as this saturday goes. i say plano pulls it off. they have a great team and we all know burkhead aka superman. so it should be a classic.

go plano wildcats

If Trinity gets to the regional finals, they would have had to beat Marcus, Plano, probably Odessa, then get to play Permian/Allen (or even Coppell???). That's a rough run just to get to the semis. I think they're capable of pulling that off, but it won't be easy.

[tjw]

well good luck with plano. as for allen were gonna take care of coppell real fast and hopefully get by mojo. then its hello euless. ill be waitin.

Slow down a little got to take care of business first with this weeks before we can think about mojo or rematch.

Doesn't matter to me who the rematch is with (Plano or Euless) but not looking at that yet.

[Caubrey]

I think Trinity Will handle business... I dont think Plano Defense can hold up. I also Trinity Defense is good enough to slow down Burkhead and Co... SHould be a packed game though

[stinger]

So different opinions means he should be a cheerleader. Matt is a smart man. He is drawing alot of interest to his blog and its being discussed. That's what opinionated columists do!!!

I watch Bill Maher on HBO and everytime I roll my eyes and cuss at the screen but I still watch him.:eek:


I don't disagree. I do the same. I use this forum to vent about Diggs. I just don't visit his site.

[tjw]

I think Trinity Will handle business... I dont think Plano Defense can hold up. I also Trinity Defense is good enough to slow down Burkhead and Co... SHould be a packed game though

Duh, sorry couldn't resist. Lets see 4 of the best playoff games this Saturday for $10 with Wylie-Hebron before and Allen-Coppell after so sure all those fans will be at the game let alone all the others.

[stinger]

Look who's talking, what are you doing on the Plano-ET thread and not on the Burleson thread loser? Oh cause they will lose this week to so jumping on the bandwagon. No support for anyone, huh stinger, take your short bus out of here.

Easy to answer that...
1. I live in Burleson, but everything else is Trinity. Why are you "Texas" but against everything, especially Trinity? That is Texas.
2. I have been Trinity for many years, just ask, probably longer than your juvenile life.
3. I know very little about Burleson, but am sure they would beat whoevery you are for. Trouble is, you don't really support anybody. You just stick your mug into everybody's business.
4. Time to get you blanket and graham crackers, it's nap time for you and the other chiodres.
Nig:cool:hty night!!

[stinger]

So that is the reason for Trinity's success, they do not get called for holding enough, wow.
I am sure Plano never holds.
That is what you are basing your prediction on, the refs.
You are an idiot, average running backs?, 5 deep.....Trinity rolls, your defense is horrible, your quarterback is overated and you simply do not match up along the line on either side of the ball, I am on board with Farmerfan................Plano sucks!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry Trojan fans I know you guys like to fly under the radar, but this guy is friggin ridiculous. I am staying all day next week to sit with ya'll and watch you beat Plano yet again............

22 Trojans will always beat one superman.


Careful, Dragonpants, this bozo has been trying for 196 posts to get on everybody's nerves. Just have fun and keep him pumped up like I do. Sooner or later he'll break a finger on his keyboard.

[stinger]

No he doesn't. All he does is work his *** off writing articles and all I see are people insulting him instead of disagreeing with him.

Maybe that's because all we see are his insults he posts on his own forum. Are you blind to that.?

[stinger]

Digg's has an opinion disagree but stop the insults.

Plano has better Offensive talent in QB, RB & WR, Olines are equal IMO,

Trinity has some studs on Defense & Plano plays 18 mighty mites on the D.


I don't get the rant concerning Lineweaver and the program he runs. Sure he runs a good program and instills values and work ethic, How does that address Diggs assement that Plano win's. He's picking Plano because he feels they have the better football team and thats it.


PWF...Explain please...How did lineweaver get into this whole mess. Especially compared to Diggs?

[HSFootball#1]

Easy to answer that...
1. I live in Burleson, but everything else is Trinity. Why are you "Texas" but against everything, especially Trinity? That is Texas.
2. I have been Trinity for many years, just ask, probably longer than your juvenile life.
3. I know very little about Burleson, but am sure they would beat whoevery you are for. Trouble is, you don't really support anybody. You just stick your mug into everybody's business.
4. Time to get you blanket and graham crackers, it's nap time for you and the other chiodres.
Nig:cool:hty night!!

Oh so you woke up from you nappy to come back and start more crap. Get back on your short bus and stop annoying people. You don't have a clue

[The Warrior]

Bulletin board motivation for ET.

The pride of ET will show as they stomp Plano.

[TheScout]

well to say the least allen has a way better d than plano and trinitys offense just kept getting first downs like it was programmed into thier systems. it was a machine that couldnt be stopped. clock managment kept our offense of the field and even when it was thier d was outstanding. now moving on the the plano game. offense was off beat all night and the def...def...defense:confused:: was no where to be found. i say that plano bieng our neighboor and 8-5a runner up that they can do it. my heart says they can. but my brain says they cant. i really think its who wants it more at the end of the day. when the whistle blows who left it all out on the field?? stats...histoy...everything is out the window. its just you and them. and who gave it thier all. so i belive plano wants it more. close one...but 35-34 plano.

and i hope allen and plano can rematch:D:D:D
we'll take thier lunch money again;)
go plano
Do you want a rematch with Plano because you won? And not with Trinity because you lost?

[MemorialMustangs]

Until Plano's defense shows they can stop anyone (specifically someone like Trinity) and until Trinity's defense actually allows points I pick Trinity to win this game

[toonman]

I will take Trinity in this game. Trinity have been very ruthless and efficient, if unspectacular, in getting results. I always have the feeling that Trinity could score more points, while limiting opponents. Plano had a few close games and were slaughtered by Allen - a team who Trinity beat.

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

Until Plano's defense shows they can stop anyone (specifically someone like Trinity) and until Trinity's defense actually allows points I pick Trinity to win this game

If we hold TT's to 28 We will in.

[The Original]

If we hold TT's to 28 We will in.

Plano will hold them to under 28, but Trinity's defense will hold them to less.

Trinity over plano 24-21

[texan_75010]

Plano will be crushed in to a fine powder and blown away in the Texas wind.

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

Plano will hold them to under 28, but Trinity's defense will hold them to less.

Trinity over plano 24-21

No way if we don't turn the ball over.

[stinger]

Oh so you woke up from you nappy to come back and start more crap. Get back on your short bus and stop annoying people. You don't have a clue


Are you repeating or stuttering? Better wipe the drool with a Kimbee Wipe. Hard to hold down that newborn formula sometimes with you kids ain's it. Again...get original and say something different for a change. Oops, I forgot...you can't think that far and remember what you said last time.


Just like your favorite football team...your mouth runs the same play over and over again, with the same results...either no gain or a loss.

Mine..Trinity..is still winning and hasn't lost.

[MemorialMustangs]

No way if we don't turn the ball over.

Well if u punted a lot or both teams held onto the ball for a long time then yes way u dont have to turn the ball over to lose 24-21 ;)

I think the Oline RB combination is too much for Planos defense to handle

[Trojan4653]

i agree. But, plano has a very porous defense. So, it doesn't matter what is said on the message boards. Unless they change over night..

bingo!

[TrinityTrojan80]

No way if we don't turn the ball over.

1)If you don't turn the ball over.
2)If both teams score every posession.
3)If Plano takes any time off the clock when they score.

There is just no time left to score very many points!

Trinity can take 8 or 9 minutes off the clock with a drive. Do you think Plano will take less than 3.

When we played John Curtis, they took almost as much time off the clock as we did on their two drives. We won 28-12, no time for any more points. It's a matter the style of football we play. We won't take so much time off the clock if your Defense will let us score quickly.:D

[Bill4par]

You know, I thought about this, but I am just going to say it, and :Censor: it. I get annoyed with these Plano squatters with all there circumstantial rant! Plano's P.R. machine is much better than their football team. I was at the Allen game this year and listening to the plano squatters here on line you would think they had a great team...instead I saw a way overrated program with 1 legit superman, who were just average. Let me be clear, the plano squatters (not the football players) constantly live in the past reliving championships won in a differant time and era of HS football. I said it, there it is. Anyway, good luck to your football team!

[DiamondJ2]

Got to go with Trinity on this one. Ball control on offense should be the huge positive for Trinity.

[da hawaiian]

Digg's has an opinion disagree but stop the insults.

Plano has better Offensive talent in QB, RB & WR, Olines are equal IMO,

Trinity has some studs on Defense & Plano plays 18 mighty mites on the D.


I don't get the rant concerning Lineweaver and the program he runs. Sure he runs a good program and instills values and work ethic, How does that address Diggs assement that Plano win's. He's picking Plano because he feels they have the better football team and thats it.

I understand someone can like Plano over ET, even someone from PESH. But I hold proffesionals to a higher standard than your average part time football fan.

I understand why an untrained eye might find an oldfashioned slogfest boring, but someone who makes a paycheck doing this stuff to be underwhelmed, by how ordinary a very talented Marcus offense was made to look, runs the risk of being called an amatuer.

comon PWF, I've seen your Oline in action, it's nowhere near the class of Allen's or Trinity's. It's also nowhere near it's level it was last year with McJunkin and that massive right guard now graduated. You're hope lies simply with the remarkable abilities of your talented offensive skill guys.

One slip and it's over

[Trojan4653]

Until Plano's defense shows they can stop anyone (specifically someone like Trinity) and until Trinity's defense actually allows points I pick Trinity to win this game
Perfect!:notworthy

[Trojan4653]

No way if we don't turn the ball over.
Keyword....but it wont matter

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

1)If you don't turn the ball over.
2)If both teams score every posession.
3)If Plano takes any time off the clock when they score.

There is just no time left to score very many points!

Trinity can take 8 or 9 minutes off the clock with a drive. Do you think Plano will take less than 3.

When we played John Curtis, they took almost as much time off the clock as we did on their two drives. We won 28-12, no time for any more points. It's a matter the style of football we play. We won't take so much time off the clock if your Defense will let us score quickly.:D

Some boring 1950's football!!! However, one day Trinity won't be blessed with 300lb lineman and questionable soph RB's transferring in when the Senior RB who rushed for 2200 yard rusher graduates. :rolleyes: Then what happens to 3 yards and a cloud of dust offense?

[stinger]

Some boring 1950's football!!! However, one day Trinity won't be blessed with 300lb lineman and questionable soph RB's transferring in when the Senior RB who rushed for 2200 yard rusher graduates. :rolleyes: Then what happens to 3 yards and a cloud of dust offense?


It still rolls along, withdifferent variables. What has happened to Plano??

[TheScout]

No way if we don't turn the ball over.
You do know that turning the ball over is USUALLY caused by a good defense. And a defense is a part of the TEAM. Quit making excuses. I could say if Trinity doesnt punt, they will win.:rolleyes:

[TrojanHorse03]

More reasons why Plano will beat Trinity via Matt Diggs...

Intangible #1 - Plano has the best player on the field. How many times in big game situations have we seen a player even go farther than we thought he would? Chris Williams is an example of a player who led Abilene almost single handedly to beat Southlake Carroll..

Intangible #2 - Plano is the clear underdog. They are going to have a chip on their shoulder. Everyone will look at Allen beating them by 25 and Trinity beating Allen - and look at this as a cakewalk..

Intangible #3 - Plano is peaking at the right time. They beat Duncanville worse than any team had this year and pretty much did it in one half.

Intangible #4 - Running up the middle was something Marcus was pretty successful at - and put Burkhead + 20-25 runs, and that is something that could be a huge factor in this game.

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=378&f=3518&t=3410551

[TheScout]

More reasons why Plano will beat Trinity via Matt Diggs...

Intangible #1 - Plano has the best player on the field. How many times in big game situations have we seen a player even go farther than we thought he would? Chris Williams is an example of a player who led Abilene almost single handedly to beat Southlake Carroll..

Intangible #2 - Plano is the clear underdog. They are going to have a chip on their shoulder. Everyone will look at Allen beating them by 25 and Trinity beating Allen - and look at this as a cakewalk..

Intangible #3 - Plano is peaking at the right time. They beat Duncanville worse than any team had this year and pretty much did it in one half.

Intangible #4 - Running up the middle was something Marcus was pretty successful at - and put Burkhead + 20-25 runs, and that is something that could be a huge factor in this game.

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=378&f=3518&t=3410551


That's hilarious. Run up the middle with success. hahahahahaahaha

They had what 109 total yards. hHAHAHAHAHAHA

[TrojanHorse03]

I do agree with one of Diggs points, people are making way too big of a deal about Trinity and Plano's games with Allen. Those were only snapshots of those teams and Trinity would be wise to put leave them in the past where they are. Again the only thing that will keep Trinity from being bounced in the 2nd round like 2006 is a GREAT week of practice and preparation, and GREAT execution on Saturday.

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

]You do know that turning the ball over is USUALLY caused by a good defense[/B]. And a defense is a part of the TEAM. Quit making excuses. I could say if Trinity doesnt punt, they will win.:rolleyes:


True turnovers are caused by many variables, hard hits by the defense but also by bad reads by the qb or sloppy execution (aka, fumbled snaps, bad pitches etc!!

If Trinity doesn't put on Satuday it will be due to their turnovers :D. I'll take that.

[Trojan4653]

OMG...has Diggs lost his mind.....successful at running up the middle...
And a top 4 all time winning % coach...looking at a cakewalk
This guy is a professional?

[Gazelle]

I just don't get all this false humility coming from the Trinity folks.
On one hand, it's "we only look at one game at a time" or "we know we can get beat by anyone anytime" or any of about 2 dozen other platitudes of humbleness.

But then, if anyone else offers an opinion that Trinity can lose against Plano, well then, it is a totally differnent story. It's Trinity will destroy any team they face, or the opinion is insane, or something else.

AND BTW, I agree w/ PWF.

I am pretty sure even PWF could get 6 yards a carry behind that massive O line that out weighs and. to some Trinity backers, out talents most D1 college teams. The talent of your 23 rotating running backs just doesn't come through.

[TrojanHorse03]

I just don't get all this false humility coming from the Trinity folks.
On one hand, it's "we only look at one game at a time" or "we know we can get beat by anyone anytime" or any of about 2 dozen other platitudes of humbleness.

But then, if anyone else offers an opinion that Trinity can lose against Plano, well then, it is a totally differnent story. It's Trinity will destroy any team they face, or the opinion is insane, or something else.

AND BTW, I agree w/ PWF.

I am pretty sure even PWF could get 6 yards a carry behind that massive O line that out weighs and. to some Trinity backers, out talents most D1 college teams. The talent of your 23 rotating running backs just doesn't come through.

Wow, that's just full of exaggerations and stretchs of the truth.

[Trojan4653]

I just don't get all this false humility coming from the Trinity folks.
On one hand, it's "we only look at one game at a time" or "we know we can get beat by anyone anytime" or any of about 2 dozen other platitudes of humbleness.

But then, if anyone else offers an opinion that Trinity can lose against Plano, well then, it is a totally differnent story. It's Trinity will destroy any team they face, or the opinion is insane, or something else.

AND BTW, I agree w/ PWF.

I am pretty sure even PWF could get 6 yards a carry behind that massive O line that out weighs and. to some Trinity backers, out talents most D1 college teams. The talent of your 23 rotating running backs just doesn't come through.

The record is 11-0....think on it some more...maybe it will come to you

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

[/b]
The record is 11-0....think on it some more...maybe it will come to you

So, Plano is 10-1 but everyone talks that we can't stop anyone. We beat 6 playoff teams some how with that porus defense.

However none of your 23 RB's average more 5.8 yards for the entire year. Regardless how fresh they are they don't seem to be breaking the big runs. A tired dead legged Burkhead averages 7.1 for the season and on Friday was averaging a very nice 8.2.

[Trojan4653]

So, Plano is 10-1 but everyone talks that we can't stop anyone. We beat 6 playoff teams some how with that porus defense.

However none of your 23 RB's average more 5.8 yards for the entire year. Regardless how fresh they are they don't seem to be breaking the big runs. A tired dead legged Burkhead averages 7.1 for the season and on Friday was averaging a very nice 8.2.
Hang your hat on Burkhead (fine young man that he is) he cant ....and wont overcome 22 average Trojans.
You keep up that mantra....we will continue to take the wins. The only numbers that count are the ones on the scoreboard at 00:00 .....just like they did last year.

[TheScout]

So, Plano is 10-1 but everyone talks that we can't stop anyone. We beat 6 playoff teams some how with that porus defense.

However none of your 23 RB's average more 5.8 yards for the entire year. Regardless how fresh they are they don't seem to be breaking the big runs. A tired dead legged Burkhead averages 7.1 for the season and on Friday was averaging a very nice 8.2.

Actually Brown avg 14. So shut your mouth until you have the facts straight,

[Tsup]

Thread says Plano steamrolls Trinity, Explain to me what has to take place for this to happen, Trinity turns the ball over 6 times ? rex avg's 8 yards a carry ? Plano completes 20 of 22 passes for 3 td's and 300 yeards ? or is it all of the above. Wait one more plano's stellar defense holds Trinity to 14 points and less than 200 total yards. Trinity will not overlook Plano, Plano will not run up the middle on Trinity, Our avg backs will do the same thing they have done all year which is run behind a O-line that thrives on contact. Call them avg all you want but there isnt a kid on that offense or defense that wont sacrafice there body and knock the snot out of anyone in there way. Warm up the whirlpools you will definatley know it was a football game.

[TheScout]

You know even Lineweaver has said, that he asks that the Off. coord to make the drives long and methodical to wear out the defense. Linewever said that he knows Jensen can call plays to score really fast, but that is not what he wants. He wants to physically abuse and wear down the defense. If we score too fast, our defense gets worn down. aka Plano's defense. The backs avg what the coaches want. They call plays to get about 4 to 5 yards each time. That really blows holes all through your theory that the backs are underachieving.... you were just ignorant to that fact.

[drgnbkr]

That statement from Diggs is shocking. Diggs loves East, but hates everything Plano.

What is there to love, football wise, about East?

[TheScout]

I just don't get all this false humility coming from the Trinity folks.
On one hand, it's "we only look at one game at a time" or "we know we can get beat by anyone anytime" or any of about 2 dozen other platitudes of humbleness.

But then, if anyone else offers an opinion that Trinity can lose against Plano, well then, it is a totally differnent story. It's Trinity will destroy any team they face, or the opinion is insane, or something else.

AND BTW, I agree w/ PWF.

I am pretty sure even PWF could get 6 yards a carry behind that massive O line that out weighs and. to some Trinity backers, out talents most D1 college teams. The talent of your 23 rotating running backs just doesn't come through.


Trinity usually is very quiet, but not during Bell/Plano week.

[drgnbkr]

Hang your hat on Burkhead (fine young man that he is) he cant ....and wont overcome 22 average Trojans.
You keep up that mantra....we will continue to take the wins. The only numbers that count are the ones on the scoreboard at 00:00 .....just like they did last year.

Lot's of logic in there grasshopper!:p

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

Actually Brown avg 14. So shut your mouth until you have the facts straight,

My bad, he's played in 4 games & had 9 carries how could I overlook him. I expect him to be a big part of the game on Saturday. :p

[caveman]

ohhhh, bawlsy thread.
the stage is set.:D

[Tsup]

Click click reload like trinty does every yearSome boring 1950's football!!! However, one day Trinity won't be blessed with 300lb lineman and questionable soph RB's transferring in when the Senior RB who rushed for 2200 yard rusher graduates. :rolleyes: Then what happens to 3 yards and a cloud of dust offense?

[FeeltheHaka]

My theory on matt diggs: He has a boy crush on Trinity! He is always seem to dis us!
I think he is using reverse psychology to pump our guys up!
Either this, or he is frustrating from being wrong so many times picking against us.

[CrossTheLine]

No turnovers by ET and everything will be ok for them.

Trinity 31 Plano 20

[soontobeatrojandad]

I think it would be pretty safe to say that neither team will "steamroll" the other!

[ImATaQUitO]

The great thing is that a game will be played and it will all be settled on the field, unlike what may happen in the college ranks. My only problem with this guy is the word "steamroll" is used, then if you read on in the thread he places "conditions" on his prediction. The turnover margin has to be even or +1 for Plano...then he says Plano will win a close one. What? What happened to steamroll?

[powerofthehaka]

My theory on matt diggs: He has a boy crush on Trinity! He is always seem to dis us!
I think he is using reverse psychology to pump our guys up!
Either this, or he is frustrating from being wrong so many times picking against us.

I'm just waiting on Norm Hitzges to pick plano too, then I'll know we will win.

[jttexas515]

Okay this is my first post.. nice to meet you all.. so here is my take on it.. Euless has a great Defense!! Comparing similar defenses that Plano played.. Desoto & Wylie. Plano scored 28 and 38. 2 of the areas top 10 Defenses! Teams That Euless played with similar style offenses...
Allen-316 yards but 3 turnovers!
Colleyville Heritage- 409 yards and 1 turnover!
Euless will come out and play the way it always plays on offense.. FLAWLESS!

Plano's recipe to win is...:notworthy
1. No Turnovers
2. They will only get the ball 6 Times Max... so score everytime.. and have to get atleast 5 TD's
3. Get a 1st quarter Defensive stop for momentum purposes
4. Lott.. Lott.. Lott.. get him the ball. Burkhead will be Euless' main target so to open the run up get it to your other stud.
--It's a lot to ask for but I compare this game to the New England Patriots and New York Giants Super Bowl Game-- Anything is possible!!!

My Prediction is Plano 35---Euless 31.

Even if i'm wrong on the winner the margin of victory wont be more than 8.

Everyone Attend!!! I will be there for all 4 Games.

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

Okay this is my first post.. nice to meet you all.. so here is my take on it.. Euless has a great Defense!! Comparing similar defenses that Plano played.. Desoto & Wylie. Plano scored 28 and 38. 2 of the areas top 10 Defenses! Teams That Euless played with similar style offenses...
Allen-316 yards but 3 turnovers!
Colleyville Heritage- 409 yards and 1 turnover!
Euless will come out and play the way it always plays on offense.. FLAWLESS!

Plano's recipe to win is...:notworthy
1. No Turnovers
2. They will only get the ball 6 Times Max... so score everytime.. and have to get atleast 5 TD's
3. Get a 1st quarter Defensive stop for momentum purposes
4. Lott.. Lott.. Lott.. get him the ball. Burkhead will be Euless' main target so to open the run up get it to your other stud.
--It's a lot to ask for but I compare this game to the New England Patriots and New York Giants Super Bowl Game-- Anything is possible!!!

My Prediction is Plano 35---Euless 31.

Even if i'm wrong on the winner the margin of victory wont be more than 8.

Everyone Attend!!! I will be there for all 4 Games.

Welcome aboard and very good first post. A man of subjectivity!!

[TrojanHorse03]

Okay this is my first post.. nice to meet you all.. so here is my take on it.. Euless has a great Defense!! Comparing similar defenses that Plano played.. Desoto & Wylie. Plano scored 28 and 38. 2 of the areas top 10 Defenses! Teams That Euless played with similar style offenses...
Allen-316 yards but 3 turnovers!
Colleyville Heritage- 409 yards and 1 turnover!
Euless will come out and play the way it always plays on offense.. FLAWLESS!

Plano's recipe to win is...:notworthy
1. No Turnovers
2. They will only get the ball 6 Times Max... so score everytime.. and have to get atleast 5 TD's
3. Get a 1st quarter Defensive stop for momentum purposes
4. Lott.. Lott.. Lott.. get him the ball. Burkhead will be Euless' main target so to open the run up get it to your other stud.
--It's a lot to ask for but I compare this game to the New England Patriots and New York Giants Super Bowl Game-- Anything is possible!!!

My Prediction is Plano 35---Euless 31.

Even if i'm wrong on the winner the margin of victory wont be more than 8.

Everyone Attend!!! I will be there for all 4 Games.

I'm not so sure Trinity is necessarily the Patriots in this one, Plano is the one with the highly touted offense that's supposedly unstoppable. I'm sure if you ask the Trinity players, they feel like the NY Giants in this match up compared with the hype of Plano's Triplets and O and "Superman."

[jttexas515]

Welcome aboard and very good first post. A man of subjectivity!!
Thank you.. I just say what I believe!! People keep bringing up Plano/Allen game and how Plano sucks. But nobody mentions the 4 or 5 turnovers that turned into 28 points for Allen and also the 16 failed/injured students that did not participate. More were failing than injured though bc some of our players aren't the brightest. Also, Everyone keep your eye on Robert Robinson. He is a fast son of a gun. One blink and gone. -Cheers-

[TrojanHorse03]

Thank you.. I just say what I believe!! People keep bringing up Plano/Allen game and how Plano sucks. But nobody mentions the 4 or 5 turnovers that turned into 28 points for Allen and also the 16 failed/injured students that did not participate. More were failing than injured though bc some of our players aren't the brightest. Also, Everyone keep your eye on Robert Robinson. He is a fast son of a gun. One blink and gone. -Cheers-

Actually, I've brought up those things over and over but more importantly the Trinity football team knows better than what is said by the media and others.

[soontobeatrojandad]

Hey I get it. It's human nature to root against the team on top. Ala Cowobys, Yankees, Celtics, etc.

Everyone always wants to be able to say "I told you they would...."

Yes I'm biased. Trinity Alum and my son will attend Trinity the next 3 years.

With that being said I think yes it's possible that Plano could win. I coached some of the Trinity players and coached against them. They do have that "IT". Willing to put egos aside for the better of the TEAM.

I remember Burkhead saying after least year's semi-final game that he had never been hit as hard as he was then. Hopefully his HS career will end this Saturday and then he is on to Texas where he plays with Gilbert and Whaley and wins a NC! But this year TT makes it 3 for 4!

[jttexas515]

I'm not so sure Trinity is necessarily the Patriots in this one, Plano is the one with the highly touted offense that's supposedly unstoppable. I'm sure if you ask the Trinity players, they feel like the NY Giants in this match up compared with the hype of Plano's Triplets and O and "Superman."

I'm not very sure about that. Even though i know you are being sarcastic more than likely. LOL. I would say that Trinity has last years Pats Offense and the Giants Defense.

Plano will give up 400 yards on D:mad:. I'm a fan yet unfortunately i would bet the house on it.. because our Defense makes me vomit.
Nonetheless it will be a great game.. I HOPE. I don't want it to be a blow out bc if so it will feel like an eternity waiting for the Allen/Coppell game.

[jttexas515]

Actually, I've brought up those things over and over but more importantly the Trinity football team knows better than what is said by the media and others.

I know they know better. They are a classy team. Have seen them a handful of times, you can actually see how much they love the game when they play. I've seen plenty of teams, but Euless/Southlake/Allen/Plano seem to have so much more pride in succeeding.
Did you play for Trinity??

[tjw]

Thank you.. I just say what I believe!! People keep bringing up Plano/Allen game and how Plano sucks. But nobody mentions the 4 or 5 turnovers that turned into 28 points for Allen and also the 16 failed/injured students that did not participate. More were failing than injured though bc some of our players aren't the brightest. Also, Everyone keep your eye on Robert Robinson. He is a fast son of a gun. One blink and gone. -Cheers-

Boy, I love how the numbers grow, was 6, then 8, then 12, now up to 16 amazing.

Like the turnovers weren't forced.

This game is going to be good and will be there to see who we might play as long as we keep winning. Good luck to both as not concerned who that might be.;)

[jttexas515]

Hey I get it. It's human nature to root against the team on top. Ala Cowobys, Yankees, Celtics, etc.

Everyone always wants to be able to say "I told you they would...."

Yes I'm biased. Trinity Alum and my son will attend Trinity the next 3 years.

With that being said I think yes it's possible that Plano could win. I coached some of the Trinity players and coached against them. They do have that "IT". Willing to put egos aside for the better of the TEAM.

I remember Burkhead saying after least year's semi-final game that he had never been hit as hard as he was then. Hopefully his HS career will end this Saturday and then he is on to Texas where he plays with Gilbert and Whaley and wins a NC! But this year TT makes it 3 for 4!

Rex wont be going to Texas. He was never offered a scholarship from them unfortunately. Rumor around Plano is that he is weighing in on Texas A&M, Texas Tech, and Auburn. He loves A&M now supposedly after his visit a few weeks ago. So maybe that young A&M team will be a contender in 3 or 4 years?..

[jttexas515]

Boy, I love how the numbers grow, was 6, then 8, then 12, now up to 16 amazing.

Like the turnovers weren't forced.

This game is going to be good and will be there to see who we might play as long as we keep winning. Good luck to both as not concerned who that might be.;)

Either/Or.. a loss is a loss.. if you're injured.. you better have some good back ups... if you can't pass your classes... go get a dang tutor.

I wish Allen luck... I do have them going to State in my Bracket.

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

Rex wont be going to Texas. He was never offered a scholarship from them unfortunately. Rumor around Plano is that he is weighing in on Texas A&M, Texas Tech, and Auburn. He loves A&M now supposedly after his visit a few weeks ago. So maybe that young A&M team will be a contender in 3 or 4 years?..

If Leach stays at Tech he would be a absolute perfect fit for that offense. He would flourish big time. You could line him up anywhere at RB, Slot what ever, return kicks

[farmerfan]

Plano wins this one.



Still doesn't take way from their suck.


Plano SUCKS

[Trojan4653]

Plano wins this one.



Still doesn't take way from their suck.


Plano SUCKS

Is that FF or bizzaroFF predicting?

[farmerfan]

Is that FF or bizzaroFF predicting?

What's the difference in the two?


I have felt Plano was going to win state since last season was over.
This is one pick I am going to stick with.
This is also one pick that wouldn't kill me to be wrong about at all. Go Haka

[TrojanMom88]

If we hold TT's to 28 We will in.

Now PWF that is the most logical thing I have seen you post!;):rolleyes:

Just kidding!!:D

[chickenheart1]

Rex wont be going to Texas. He was never offered a scholarship from them unfortunately. Rumor around Plano is that he is weighing in on Texas A&M, Texas Tech, and Auburn. He loves A&M now supposedly after his visit a few weeks ago. So maybe that young A&M team will be a contender in 3 or 4 years?..

Wrong!!! He did have an offer from Texas and Mac Brown has been in contact with him. Even had him come to a game. I believe they wanted him to accept it right away and wasn't prepared to do so. Texas Tech is very strongly recruiting him. I know that Leach has called him on several occasions. Rex won't choose because he is focused on his team right now and that is what he cares about most.

[TrojanMom88]

My bad, he's played in 4 games & had 9 carries how could I overlook him. I expect him to be a big part of the game on Saturday. :p

That is the whole point...

You will not know what to expect Saturday! Each week Lineweaver brings something new to the table. Plays that Trinity faithfuls haven't seen. We have many choices and each choice has many variables, bring a fresh playmaker to each play. They will not wear down easily against an excellant defense, much less an average defense.

Trust me... Trinity's players are not looking past PLANO, they already know your strengths. They are memorizing your weaknesses and they will be ahead by atleast 1 when the clock hits 00:00 Saturday!

Believe me they know that PLANO is NEXT!!!

[hollywood]

Wrong!!! He did have an offer from Texas and Mac Brown has been in contact with him. Even had him come to a game. I believe they wanted him to accept it right away and wasn't prepared to do so. Texas Tech is very strongly recruiting him. I know that Leach has called him on several occasions. Rex won't choose because he is focused on his team right now and that is what he cares about most.

Either Texas or Tech could really use him.

[jttexas515]

Wrong!!! He did have an offer from Texas and Mac Brown has been in contact with him. Even had him come to a game. I believe they wanted him to accept it right away and wasn't prepared to do so. Texas Tech is very strongly recruiting him. I know that Leach has called him on several occasions. Rex won't choose because he is focused on his team right now and that is what he cares about most.
TRUE.. i forgot he went to their victory over Missouri. I think when the season is over he will choose where he will be able to step in and make a difference. Meaning I don't think he will choose a football team where he will sit on the bench every year. Rex couldn't handle that.. he's too hard of a worker. I would love to see him at Tech though.

[HebronHawk]

Either Texas or Tech could really use him.

Not as much as A&M could, though. :cool:

[stinger]

Boy, I love how the numbers grow, was 6, then 8, then 12, now up to 16 amazing.

Like the turnovers weren't forced.

This game is going to be good and will be there to see who we might play as long as we keep winning. Good luck to both as not concerned who that might be.;)



I agree. maybe some of them were the trainers, cheerleaders, etc. But...they were all starters. Another example of inflated numbers to get a bogus point across, but it failed!!

[RedRage00]

I don't care who wins, I just want to see a great game. :D

[trojanbacker]

Although debating the relative merits of our backups with someone who has never seen them play is entertaining, what's the point? The only thing that needs to be said is that the personnel Trinity uses seems to fit into their system just fine and has been fairly successful this year (11 - 0).

On the other hand, the value of the ignore button is non-debatable. Use it and then you don't have to waste time sifting through infinite-loop arguments like this.

[Gazelle]

Although debating the relative merits of our backups with someone who has never seen them play is entertaining, what's the point? The only thing that needs to be said is that the personnel Trinity uses seems to fit into their system just fine and has been fairly successful this year (11 - 0).

On the other hand, the value of the ignore button is non-debatable. Use it and then you don't have to waste time sifting through infinite-loop arguments like this.


Credit where it's due -
Trinity has a VERY successful program, one that many schools would envy.
Just not Plano.

But, several posters here would like to have us believe that it is the Trinity system to simply beat up a defense so that the RBs can run 6 yards and fall down. And run the next, very similar play.

Through the course of 11 games, it says something that Trinity's large and strong O-line enables their great stable of RBs to only gain ~6 yards a carry.

And this suggests a way of beating that offense.

The defense is another matter, and is going to be very interesting to watch.
Especially if they have to be on the field extensively on Sat.

[ktchamp97]

Diggs' thread title was written as it was to spark discussion (mission accomplished!), but the meat of what he said isn't anything to be up in arms about.

Yes, Plano can beat Trinity...there's a revelation. ;)

Despite Plano's defensive struggles throughout the year, I still can't count them out in this game. While Trinity's approach limits Plano's possessions, that also forces the Trojans to be nearly flawless themselves. That's especially true considering Plano's offense. A turnover or two from Trinity could be all Plano might need to take this one. Heck, forcing a punt or two, especially with Burkhead back there to return them, could be a huge momentum shift.

Here's a bold prediction...this should be a hell of a game.

[chickenheart1]

TRUE.. i forgot he went to their victory over Missouri. I think when the season is over he will choose where he will be able to step in and make a difference. Meaning I don't think he will choose a football team where he will sit on the bench every year. Rex couldn't handle that.. he's too hard of a worker. I would love to see him at Tech though.

I think Tech would be a great fit. Leach told him that he would make him the number 1 receiver in the country. I think he views him like he views Crabtree. That says a lot about Rex's abilities.

[HSFootball#1]

That is the whole point...

You will not know what to expect Saturday! Each week Lineweaver brings something new to the table. Plays that Trinity faithfuls haven't seen. We have many choices and each choice has many variables, bring a fresh playmaker to each play. They will not wear down easily against an excellant defense, much less an average defense.

Trust me... Trinity's players are not looking past PLANO, they already know your strengths. They are memorizing your weaknesses and they will be ahead by atleast 1 when the clock hits 00:00 Saturday!

Believe me they know that PLANO is NEXT!!!

:laugh:laugh That is funny, especially with the DMN title "Usual recipe puts Euless Trinity in area round" Euless Trinity followed its formula. No one has seen anything different out of Euless this year.:p

[soontobeatrojandad]

[quote=Gazelle;995231]Credit where it's due -
Trinity has a VERY successful program, one that many schools would envy.
Just not Plano.



Let's make sure we are comparing Apples to Apples when referring to " A Very successful program. To do this you need to look at 10 year increments. If you do this then Plano should be very envious of Trinity!

[Panther #73]

this thread title is hilarious...

Trinity is better than last year by a good margin i have to say

Dont get me wrong, i love plano, thats where i grew up...but Trinity will be the overall leader in this game

This will definatly be a game to watch!! I might go to this game!

[HSFootball#1]

[quote=Gazelle;995231]Credit where it's due -
Trinity has a VERY successful program, one that many schools would envy.
Just not Plano.



Let's make sure we are comparing Apples to Apples when referring to " A Very successful program. To do this you need to look at 10 year increments. If you do this then Plano should be very envious of Trinity!

:laugh:laugh This is getting more hilarious every minute :laugh:laugh

State titles 7 to 2

Welcome to the board rookie.

[TrojanHorse03]

My theory on matt diggs: He has a boy crush on Trinity! He is always seem to dis us!
I think he is using reverse psychology to pump our guys up!
Either this, or he is frustrating from being wrong so many times picking against us.

Well he's really laying it on either way.

__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ ___


http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=378&f=3518&t=3410551
A few notes..

I saw Trinity play Carter in the scrimmage
I saw Trinity play John Curtis
I saw Trinity play Allen on TV
I saw 75% of the Trinity vs. Marcus game..

Carter pushed Trinity around
John Curtis pushed Trinity aroundNow - does Plano have the athletes to push Trinity around? Probably not on the offensive line - they are down on the offensive line - but you don't think Burkhead is going to punish whoever tackles him? I think the offensive line is good enough for Plano to at least get a neutral push - and if they get a neutral push - Burkhead can do a lot.

Now - most observers note that Marcus only got 109 yards. Well, 56 + 15 for penalties came on that first drive. Based on what I saw on THAT DRIVE - and THAT DRIVE ALONE - I can see Plano doing that type of drive all night - as long as they don't make mistakes.

Trinity is not that scary. IMO, the best team I saw at Texas Stadium on Saturday was Southlake Carroll - that Southlake Carroll team, for that 48 minutes, is better than Trinity..

Now, people have implied I just don't like Trinity because I haven't created a shrine for them. Trinity gets as much coverage if not more than any state champion team. We have personally had someone (out of a 3 man coverage team!) at 6 of their 11 games. I can't fathom thinking that we discriminate against them!

I have always thought Trinity is one of those fanbases that tries in general to be respectful, they compliment their opponents - Steve Lineweaver is a class act - love the guy - we enjoy seeing him at 7 on 7 and various combines - however, the fans that represent the community just are not tolerant of different opinions - when ultimately - the only opinion that matters will be at about 8:47pm on Saturday when the Trinity will be watching the rest of the playoffs from lovely and scenic Euless, TX.

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=378&f=3518&t=3410551

[Panther #73]

[quote=soontobeatrojandad;995318]

:laugh:laugh This is getting more hilarious every minute :laugh:laugh

State titles 7 to 2

Welcome to the board rookie.


Haha - Scout Teamers :rolleyes:

[Panther #73]

Well he's really laying it on either way.

A few notes..

I saw Trinity play Carter in the scrimmage
I saw Trinity play John Curtis
I saw Trinity play Allen on TV
I saw 75% of the Trinity vs. Marcus game..

Carter pushed Trinity around
John Curtis pushed Trinity aroundNow - does Plano have the athletes to push Trinity around? Probably not on the offensive line - they are down on the offensive line - but you don't think Burkhead is going to punish whoever tackles him? I think the offensive line is good enough for Plano to at least get a neutral push - and if they get a neutral push - Burkhead can do a lot.

Now - most observers note that Marcus only got 109 yards. Well, 56 + 15 for penalties came on that first drive. Based on what I saw on THAT DRIVE - and THAT DRIVE ALONE - I can see Plano doing that type of drive all night - as long as they don't make mistakes.

Trinity is not that scary. IMO, the best team I saw at Texas Stadium on Saturday was Southlake Carroll - that Southlake Carroll team, for that 48 minutes, is better than Trinity..

Now, people have implied I just don't like Trinity because I haven't created a shrine for them. Trinity gets as much coverage if not more than any state champion team. We have personally had someone (out of a 3 man coverage team!) at 6 of their 11 games. I can't fathom thinking that we discriminate against them!

I have always thought Trinity is one of those fanbases that tries in general to be respectful, they compliment their opponents - Steve Lineweaver is a class act - love the guy - we enjoy seeing him at 7 on 7 and various combines - however, the fans that represent the community just are not tolerant of different opinions - when ultimately - the only opinion that matters will be at about 8:47pm on Saturday when the Trinity will be watching the rest of the playoffs from lovely and scenic Euless, TX.

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=378&f=3518&t=3410551


And your a Trinity Fan??? :eek: hmmm

[TrojanHorse03]

Diggs' thread title was written as it was to spark discussion (mission accomplished!), but the meat of what he said isn't anything to be up in arms about.

Yes, Plano can beat Trinity...there's a revelation. ;)

Despite Plano's defensive struggles throughout the year, I still can't count them out in this game. While Trinity's approach limits Plano's possessions, that also forces the Trojans to be nearly flawless themselves. That's especially true considering Plano's offense. A turnover or two from Trinity could be all Plano might need to take this one. Heck, forcing a punt or two, especially with Burkhead back there to return them, could be a huge momentum shift.

Here's a bold prediction...this should be a hell of a game.

Hey we never here from you ktchamp, who do you think will win this game, sounds like Plano?

[TrojanHorse03]

And your a Trinity Fan??? :eek: hmmm

No, that's more of Matt Diggs predictions.

[soontobeatrojandad]

[quote=HSFootball#1;995334]


Haha - Scout Teamers :rolleyes:



I assume you didn't realize I'm very aware of Plano's past sucess.

I'm stating: What have you done for me lately!

[ktchamp97]

Hey we never here from you ktchamp, who do you think will win this game, sounds like Plano?
I like Trinity to win ultimately, but I certainly don't think a Plano win is out of the question.

[HSFootball#1]

i assume you realize i'm very aware of plano's past sucess.

I'm stating: Trinity sucks compared to the great plano!
Our two recently, never did anything before is more valuable then all those great championships of plano

fify.:d

[Panther #73]

No, that's more of Matt Diggs predictions.

Oh ok i was just wondering. Had to stop and make sure cuz of you sig :D:notworthy

[TrojanHorse03]

One thing I wanna take up for Trinity fans is, even though we have disagreed on assesments of Trinity we have quite often said Plano can definitely, certainly win. In fact after Plano's loss to Allen you see quite a bit of the defenders were Trinity fan. I'm not referring to anyone in particular, but in general this idea that Trinity fans have been saying or thinking Trinity is unbeatable isn't true.

[marcusdrillmom]

I don't think anyone can "Steamroll" Trinity. :)

[HSFootball#1]

I don't think anyone can "Steamroll" Trinity. :)

Be there Saturday. ;)

[Gazelle]

[quote=Panther #73;995345]



I assume you didn't realize I'm very aware of Plano's past sucess.

I'm stating: What have you done for me lately!

I realize it isn't up to Trinity's standard, but Plano has had some success in the past 4 years.

2005 13-1 Lost to SLC in the Region I finals, in a very good game. Might have been SLC's toughest game that year.
2006 was a downer year w/ multiple injuries and makeshifts
2007 13-2 Region II Champs, lost to mighty Trinity in 2 OTs in a classic game(If you want to be truly honest, go back and see how close a Trinity loss could have been. On PSHS's last regulation time offensive play before the field goal, Christian is wide open on the flag route that Burkhead doesn't see.)
2008 10-1 and still alive, for at least a few more days.

See ya Saturday.

[Maroondog]

These Plano-Trinity threads remind me of 2 cur dogs in the park going round and round sniffing each other. :p

[TrojanHorse03]

[QUOTE=soontobeatrojandad;995364]

I realize it isn't up to Trinity's standard, but Plano has had some success in the past 4 years.

2005 13-1 Lost to SLC in the Region I finals, in a very good game. Might have been SLC's toughest game that year.
2006 was a downer year w/ multiple injuries and makeshifts
2007 13-2 Region II Champs, lost to mighty Trinity in 2 OTs in a classic game(If you want to be truly honest, go back and see how close a Trinity loss could have been. On PSHS's last regulation time offensive play before the field goal, Christian is wide open on the flag route that Burkhead doesn't see.)
2008 10-1 and still alive, for at least a few more days.

See ya Saturday.

You're not really being honest, anyone who's honest would know that Plano shouldn't have even had that possesion. I could say more about that game but...instead that does remind me that since Plano is involved I'm sure Trinity can expect some dubious calls at best.

[soontobeatrojandad]

fify.:d


I guess John Reddel and Ed Hickman never led any great Trinity teams.:D

I guess little ol' Trinity takes a backseat to Big Ol' Plano!

I ventrue a guess that you may have been caught up in the epidemic that swept up Plano a few years back based on you comments and editing of my post.

To sum it up: What we say here has exactly no effect on what will happen Saturday.

[TrojanHorse03]

I guess John Reddel and Ed Hickman never led any great Trinity teams.:D

I guess little ol' Trinity takes a backseat to Big Ol' Plano!

I ventrue a guess that you may have been caught up in the epidemic that swept up Plano a few years back based on you comments and editing of my post.

To sum it up: What we say here has exactly no effect on what will happen Saturday.

Actually, trojandad many around the state really do think Trinity's only been a good program since 2005.

[Gazelle]

[QUOTE=Gazelle;995426]

You're not really being honest, anyone who's honest would know that Plano shouldn't have even had that possesion. I could say more about that game but...instead that does remind me that since Plano is involved I'm sure Trinity can expect some dubious calls at best.

I'm involking the "Only 1 "if only" at a time" rule here.
AND, to be honest, you asked about what has PSHS done lately. I was just stating it from my point of view.

That is, to what you are refering was not part of that answer. It was just an aside comment, that asked you to look at the possibility that Trinity could have lost that game that they were supposed to totally dominate because of their size, skill, speed, excellent coaching and overwhelming tradition.

The actual point of my answer was that Plano has been modestly successful in the past 4 years.

[TrojanHorse03]

[QUOTE=TrojanHorse03;995444]

I'm involking the "Only 1 "if only" at a time" rule here.
AND, to be honest, you asked about what has PSHS done lately. I was just stating it from my point of view.

That is, to what you are refering was not part of that answer. It was just an aside comment, that asked you to look at the possibility that Trinity could have lost that game that they were supposed to totally dominate because of their size, skill, speed, excellent coaching and overwhelming tradition.

The actual point of my answer was that Plano has been modestly successful in the past 4 years.

No actually Trinity was supposed to lose that game remember. How quickly people already forget Plano supposedly had already beaten the number 1 defense, a better defense in Skyline....

[BellGradTrinityDad]

:laugh:laugh That is funny, especially with the DMN title "Usual recipe puts Euless Trinity in area round" Euless Trinity followed its formula. No one has seen anything different out of Euless this year.:p

Yeah nothing different, they just keep winning.

[slcdragonfan]

Steamroll?:confused:
Whatever...Plano certainly has the opportunity to win this game, they are an excellent team, but steamroll? How many drives will Plano get if Trinity has 9.5 minute drives? Do you think you will keep Trinity for scoring? do you think Plano will punt at least once? Do the math....
I guess I need you to define 'steamroll'.

[Gazelle]

[QUOTE=Gazelle;995489]

No actually Trinity was supposed to lose that game remember. How quickly people already forget Plano supposedly had already beaten the number 1 defense in Skyline....


Hummmmmmm.
I don't seem to remember it that way.
I know Skyline's defense was excellent and newspaper archives could solve the "who was the no1 defense" question. I don't think anyone would credibly say that if it was not provable, if it was said. And I am sure that indeed Plano beat Skyline.

And I am pretty sure we got alot of the Trinity will crush Plano because they are bigger, faster, harder, better coached (I'll give you that one), have better support, more back-ups, blah, blah blah..... for a week before the game.

I do know it was supposed to be a hard fought, good game and it was.

[TrojanHorse03]

[QUOTE=TrojanHorse03;995511]


Hummmmmmm.
I don't seem to remember it that way.
I know Skyline's defense was excellent and newspaper archives could solve the "who was the no1 defense" question. I don't think anyone would credibly say that if it was not provable, if it was said. And I am sure that indeed Plano beat Skyline.

And I am pretty sure we got alot of the Trinity will crush Plano because they are bigger, faster, harder, better coached (I'll give you that one), have better support, more back-ups, blah, blah blah..... for a week before the game.

I do know it was supposed to be a hard fought, good game and it was.

Nope, it was even up on the previous Plano Wildcat qb club website, Plano was the pick of the pundits because Plano had Superman and had supposedly already crushed the number 1 defense who was better than Trinity's in Skyline the week before.

[TrojanMom88]

Yeah nothing different, they just keep winning.

Welcome to the board!!!

[WildcatFan2]

Steamroll? No way. Do they have a chance? Sure. Plano's offense is really, really good and doesn't just rely on the running or passing game, both are very effective. It's going to boil down to the offensive line giving Meger time and the Plano defense making a stop - can they with such a size differential?

I'm looking for another very close, exciting game.

[TrojanMom88]

:laugh:laugh That is funny, especially with the DMN title "Usual recipe puts Euless Trinity in area round" Euless Trinity followed its formula. No one has seen anything different out of Euless this year.:p

You know you are RIGHT, Nothing different, just different players doing the same thing.

But, you will see a constant change in players. One who rushes, on the very next play will go out for the pass, and then will be there blocking or faking or well....

I guess you would have to be there to know how it works!!!

But your post explains where you get your information!!! Simply put you read about it!! Do you even go to a game????

[Maxthedog]

Yeah nothing different, they just keep winning.

Yep, Trinity is boring, ugly, slow, only run a couple of different plays, can't pass, ah,,what else,,,ah,,,oh yea, they keep winning and winning.
Please tell me the band won't have another Sr night at half time. I swear, if they do, I will streak. Question, does running ONLY 20 yards count as 'streaking'?

Going to be a GREAT GAME,,,for sure!

[bigdaddydog]

Yep, Trinity is boring, ugly, slow, only run a couple of different plays, can't pass, ah,,what else,,,ah,,,oh yea, they keep winning and winning.
Please tell me the band won't have another Sr night at half time. I swear, if they do, I will streak. Question, does running ONLY 20 yards count as 'streaking'?

Going to be a GREAT GAME,,,for sure!

You betcha it does, but only if you're "buck naked"!! :D


~

[btrain38]

plano wins this one.



Still doesn't take way from their suck.


Plano sucks

farmerfan will sit on plano side. He can't set with me.

[TrojanBandEX]

A team that builds around a superman usually lacks balance; and that imbalance can easily be exploited by a balanced opponent that actually plays as a team. Burkhead may be able to beat some teams, but he'll be an easy target for Trinity, which is why I don't believe the Plano game plan will make him a target; I'm thinking their coaching staff is smarter than that. Other players will have to make plays for Plano to have a chance.

Ultimately, the defense that can inflict the worst beating will be the deciding factor in this game. I feel pretty confident in the Trinity D's ability to dole out punishment and wear down opponents.

Can Plano beat Trinity? Absolutely!
Can Plano "Steamroll" Trinity? Not this year!
Will Plano beat Trinity? Naah...I doubt it!

[slcdragonfan]

A team that builds around a superman usually lacks balance; and that imbalance can easily be exploited by a balanced opponent that actually plays as a team. Burkhead may be able to beat some teams, but he'll be an easy target for Trinity, which is why I don't believe the Plano game plan will make him a target; I'm thinking their coaching staff is smarter than that. Other players will have to make plays for Plano to have a chance.

Ultimately, the defense that can inflict the worst beating will be the deciding factor in this game. I feel pretty confident in the Trinity D's ability to dole out punishment and wear down opponents.

Can Plano beat Trinity? Absolutely!
Can Plano "Steamroll" Trinity? Not this year!
Will Plano beat Trinity? Naah...I doubt it!

You right about one man teams (see Temple) but Plano is not a one-man team. They have a lot of offensive talent. Of course you have to follow the Burkhead, but Lott/Meger are a good combo as well. I agree that Defense will be key, both sides. Can Plano stop Trinity from destroying time itself? Can Trinity find some kryptonite? Epic game expectations here, esp after last year.:)

[TrojanMom88]

A team that builds around a superman usually lacks balance; and that imbalance can easily be exploited by a balanced opponent that actually plays as a team. Burkhead may be able to beat some teams, but he'll be an easy target for Trinity, which is why I don't believe the Plano game plan will make him a target; I'm thinking their coaching staff is smarter than that. Other players will have to make plays for Plano to have a chance.

Ultimately, the defense that can inflict the worst beating will be the deciding factor in this game. I feel pretty confident in the Trinity D's ability to dole out punishment and wear down opponents.

Can Plano beat Trinity? Absolutely!
Can Plano "Steamroll" Trinity? Not this year!
Will Plano beat Trinity? Naah...I doubt it!

+1:notworthy:notworthy

[Maxthedog]

A team that builds around a superman usually lacks balance; and that imbalance can easily be exploited by a balanced opponent that actually plays as a team. Burkhead may be able to beat some teams, but he'll be an easy target for Trinity, which is why I don't believe the Plano game plan will make him a target; I'm thinking their coaching staff is smarter than that. Other players will have to make plays for Plano to have a chance.

Ultimately, the defense that can inflict the worst beating will be the deciding factor in this game. I feel pretty confident in the Trinity D's ability to dole out punishment and wear down opponents.

Can Plano beat Trinity? Absolutely!
Can Plano "Steamroll" Trinity? Not this year!
Will Plano beat Trinity? Naah...I doubt it!

Plano has balance, they have a dangerous passing game and the QB is a decent runner. I agree that 'other players will have to make plays for Plano to have a chance'. I think all will agree that SGP had a better than average defense, not much less if any, than Trinity's D. Burkhead had almost 300 yards of combined offense last week vs SGP. All year people have been saying 'Stop Burkhead'. Hasn't happened. He has an extra gear that all great football players have. I think Trinity will win but I wouldn't bet anything on that. If I remember correctly, didn't Rex have a huge 4th qtr last year vs Trinity, last year? Your right though, other players will have to make plays, Burkhead will get his. Going to be an awesome game! I just don't think Plano's D can stop Trinity enough to win.

[tjw]

You right about one man teams (see Temple) but Plano is not a one-man team. They have a lot of offensive talent. Of course you have to follow the Burkhead, but Lott/Meger are a good combo as well. I agree that Defense will be key, both sides. Can Plano stop Trinity from destroying time itself? Can Trinity find some kryptonite? Epic game expectations here, esp after last year.:)

We might share ours but you have to ask nicely since we've beat them 3 years straight (why we are the 2006-2007-2008 Plano City champions as beat all 3 Plano teams 3 years straight) with Superman as main threat. Last time we lost to Plano he was a freshman and not the main threat.

Only a couple years ago since William Cole one man team won state so can be done.

[slcdragonfan]

We might share ours but you have to ask nicely since we've beat them 3 years straight (why we are the 2006-2007-2008 Plano City champions as beat all 3 Plano teams 3 years straight) with Superman as main threat. Last time we lost to Plano he was a freshman and not the main threat.

Only a couple years ago since William Cole one man team won state so can be done.

They has a pretty salty goal-line stand that I recall, so they had a D to go with him.;)

[stinger]

Yep, Trinity is boring, ugly, slow, only run a couple of different plays, can't pass, ah,,what else,,,ah,,,oh yea, they keep winning and winning.
Please tell me the band won't have another Sr night at half time. I swear, if they do, I will streak. Question, does running ONLY 20 yards count as 'streaking'?

Going to be a GREAT GAME,,,for sure!

I agree. The senior things should have been earlier in the season, like the Bell game. Oh well...on to bigger and better things, like the Plano game.

[TrojanHorse03]

You right about one man teams (see Temple) but Plano is not a one-man team. They have a lot of offensive talent. Of course you have to follow the Burkhead, but Lott/Meger are a good combo as well. I agree that Defense will be key, both sides. Can Plano stop Trinity from destroying time itself? Can Trinity find some kryptonite? Epic game expectations here, esp after last year.:)

Agreed, Meger has thrown for 2838 yards and 28 TD, 2nd in the Metroplex only to Hill of Heritage, not to mention how deceptively elusive he is. Lott, Hoetger, and Robertson are good too :notworthy.

[TheScout]

[quote=soontobeatrojandad;995364]

I realize it isn't up to Trinity's standard, but Plano has had some success in the past 4 years.

2005 13-1 Lost to SLC in the Region I finals, in a very good game. Might have been SLC's toughest game that year.
2006 was a downer year w/ multiple injuries and makeshifts
2007 13-2 Region II Champs, lost to mighty Trinity in 2 OTs in a classic game(If you want to be truly honest, go back and see how close a Trinity loss could have been. On PSHS's last regulation time offensive play before the field goal, Christian is wide open on the flag route that Burkhead doesn't see.)
2008 10-1 and still alive, for at least a few more days.

See ya Saturday.

True, but the ref should have never called the fumble at the end of the game to send it to overtime. While Trinity was running out the clock, Samir Baker was being pushed backwards when the ball came out, therefore it was not a fumble, but a blown call by the ref. If you don't believe me look it up on You Tube and you'll see that it wasnt a fumble. It should have never gone to OT.

[TheScout]

Plano has balance, they have a dangerous passing game and the QB is a decent runner. I agree that 'other players will have to make plays for Plano to have a chance'. I think all will agree that SGP had a better than average defense, not much less if any, than Trinity's D. Burkhead had almost 300 yards of combined offense last week vs SGP. All year people have been saying 'Stop Burkhead'. Hasn't happened. He has an extra gear that all great football players have. I think Trinity will win but I wouldn't bet anything on that. If I remember correctly, didn't Rex have a huge 4th qtr last year vs Trinity, last year? Your right though, other players will have to make plays, Burkhead will get his. Going to be an awesome game! I just don't think Plano's D can stop Trinity enough to win.
SGP has a good defense, but the only comparable opponents between SGP and Trinity is Allen. SGP let up twice as many points. I would venture to say Trinity is a little better.

[Gazelle]

[quote=Gazelle;995426]

True, but the ref should have never called the fumble at the end of the game to send it to overtime. While Trinity was running out the clock, Samir Baker was being pushed backwards when the ball came out, therefore it was not a fumble, but a blown call by the ref. If you don't believe me look it up on You Tube and you'll see that it wasnt a fumble. It should have never gone to OT.

I don't have to go to Youtube.
The game is played as it is called, and it was called a fumble.
End

[HSFootball#1]

[quote=Gazelle;995426]

True, but the ref should have never called the fumble at the end of the game to send it to overtime. While Trinity was running out the clock, Samir Baker was being pushed backwards when the ball came out, therefore it was not a fumble, but a blown call by the ref. If you don't believe me look it up on You Tube and you'll see that it wasnt a fumble. It should have never gone to OT.

Sounds like something you would say...if he didn't want the ball stripped and fumble like he obviously did he should have just gone down! You wouldn't be complaining had he broke the tackle now would you. He FUMBLED, clearly a fumble.:p Next excuse and I know you have a million as you always do.:rolleyes:

[TheScout]

I don't have to go to Youtube.
The game is played as it is called, and it was called a fumble.
End
It was also a Plano loss
end

[TheScout]

Sounds like something you would say...if he didn't want the ball stripped and fumble like he obviously did he should have just gone down! You wouldn't be complaining had he broke the tackle now would you. He FUMBLED, clearly a fumble.:p Next excuse and I know you have a million as you always do.:rolleyes:
Here you are again. :rolleyes: When a player is moving backwards...his forward progress is stopped, and a fumble cannot occur. That is in every rule book at every level of football. Now surely in all of you infinite wisdom you know that.

[HSFootball#1]

Here you are again. :rolleyes: When a player is moving backwards...his forward progress is stopped, and a fumble cannot occur. That is in every rule book at every level of football. Now surely in all of you infinite wisdom you know that.

Smartest thing you admitted is the truth that I do have infinite wisdom. Since you lack any wisdom and are crying over a game played last year, it was called a fumble get over it.:rolleyes:

[TheScout]

Sounds like something you would say...if he didn't want the ball stripped and fumble like he obviously did he should have just gone down! You wouldn't be complaining had he broke the tackle now would you. He FUMBLED, clearly a fumble.:p Next excuse and I know you have a million as you always do.:rolleyes:


Smartest thing you admitted is the truth that I do have infinite wisdom. Since you lack any wisdom and are crying over a game played last year, it was called a fumble get over it.:rolleyes:
I'm not crying because Trinity won:p. The call was still bad, so quit changing the subject. You said it was clearly a fumble, and that shows how really ignorant and un-knowledgeable you are. Go ahead change the subject again. The original statement was that it was a blown call and you said it was the correct call. You really are unaware. Peace.

[Trojanman96]

I'm not crying because Trinity won:p. The call was still bad, so quit changing the subject. You said it was clearly a fumble, and that shows how really ignorant and un-knowledgeable you are. Go ahead change the subject again. The original statement was that it was a blown call and you said it was the correct call. You really are unaware. Peace.
HSFootball is a wannabe know it all. He obviously doesn't know the rules, because he said it was obviously a fumble.:rolleyes: The only thing that made it a fumble is that the ref was either blind, or a Plano fan, because everyone else knew that is was forward progress and a fumble cannot occur. Good thing that a BLOWN CALL did not cause the Trojans to lose the game they worked so hard to win. To have a ref try and steal it like that is stupid.

On to this year.

[Tsup]

its amazing how threads like this get so emotional, just play the game and let the kids decide it on the field. You can analyze this thing to death it isnt gonna help Trinity or plano on the field. Trinity plays mistake free which is much more likely to happen than plano playing mistake fre they win. Every punt is a turnover in this game and the opposing offense can score with every stop the defense makes. this has to be in favor of trinity. Though Plano can win, they wont without a humongous defensive effort. It still comes down to D all anyone from plano wants to talk about is there offense. it's your defense that will detrermine if you win this game.

[chhspantherfan]

Tsup has spoken

Thread is over


:D

[TheScout]

:notworthy:notworthy

[stinger]

Smartest thing you admitted is the truth that I do have infinite wisdom. Since you lack any wisdom and are crying over a game played last year, it was called a fumble get over it.:rolleyes:

Scout doesn't cry over a victory. Wrong again....you really meant you are infinitely dumb.

[TheScout]

Scout doesn't cry over a victory. Wrong again....you really meant you are infinitely dumb.

I cry over spilled milk;)

[slcdragonfan]

HSFootball is a wannabe know it all. He obviously doesn't know the rules, because he said it was obviously a fumble.:rolleyes: The only thing that made it a fumble is that the ref was either blind, or a Plano fan, because everyone else knew that is was forward progress and a fumble cannot occur. Good thing that a BLOWN CALL did not cause the Trojans to lose the game they worked so hard to win. To have a ref try and steal it like that is stupid.

On to this year.

But, how do you REALLY feel?

[TheScout]

But, how do you REALLY feel?
:notworthy I thnk that HSF#1 pulls the worst out of everyone.

[TrojanFan4Life]

You know even Lineweaver has said, that he asks that the Off. coord to make the drives long and methodical to wear out the defense. Linewever said that he knows Jensen can call plays to score really fast, but that is not what he wants. He wants to physically abuse and wear down the defense. If we score too fast, our defense gets worn down. aka Plano's defense. The backs avg what the coaches want. They call plays to get about 4 to 5 yards each time. That really blows holes all through your theory that the backs are underachieving.... you were just ignorant to that fact.

Nope they are just Plano ignorant :D

[tiger94]

Plano does have a chance to win, just like every team that is still in the playoffs has a chance to win. The question to ask is "is it likely Plano will win?" The chances of plano winning is very slim. PWF will tell you if plano doesn't have turnovers they will win. Thats a good one PWF. I can win the lottery if I get all the numbers right!!! I have a chance to win correct but what is the odds of me winning um 1 out of millions. Just about the likely hood of plano not having a turnover and playing the perfect game. What is the likely hood of trinity winning the game 1of10 so very high likely hood. Wait Plano has a chance to win if they don't turn it over. In any sporting event from football, hockey, tennis, baseball and many other sports the opposition has a chance to win that is a given a:Censor: plano fans.
Your defense doesn't have a good chance of stopping trinity offense. The last two big games against allen and trinity, plano has turned the ball over 9 times so we will look at the past to perdict the future which points to a trinity win and many turnovers from plano!! Good day oh yeah in the early 2000's didn't plano go like 1-10 or 0-10 good program.

[TrojanFan4Life]

[QUOTE=TrojanHorse03;995444]

I'm involking the "Only 1 "if only" at a time" rule here.
AND, to be honest, you asked about what has PSHS done lately. I was just stating it from my point of view.

That is, to what you are refering was not part of that answer. It was just an aside comment, that asked you to look at the possibility that Trinity could have lost that game that they were supposed to totally dominate because of their size, skill, speed, excellent coaching and overwhelming tradition.

The actual point of my answer was that Plano has been modestly successful in the past 4 years.


HAHAHAHA - we lost to Permian in game 3 and everyone called us overrated - gave us little to no respect and plano was gearing up for Permian b/c everyone just knew we wouldn't get past them - heck they kicked our butts in game 3 - also we had a young offense at the skill players - at no time did we come in as the totally dominate team - what a riot!

[Boss Hawgette]

I can't wait for this game. I'm even thinking about bringing the dress out of retirement. Thoughts?

[FeeltheHaka]

I can't wait for this game. I'm even thinking about bringing the dress out of retirement. Thoughts?

U gotta!!!!! please, please, please!!!!!! You have plenty of notice to wash it!

[TrojanFan4Life]

I can't wait for this game. I'm even thinking about bringing the dress out of retirement. Thoughts?

I love the dress but am very superstitious - if we have been winning without it - leave it in the closet - if you have worn it a couple of times - then bring it on - yes I am very cognizant of the fact that what we wear, cheer with, etc. has no bearing on the game - but you never know;)

[TrojanBandEX]

I can't wait for this game. I'm even thinking about bringing the dress out of retirement. Thoughts?

That would be awesome!!

[Boss Hawgette]

OK, I'll wear it if farmerfan sits next to me :D

[TrojanFan4Life]

OK, I'll wear it if farmerfan sits next to me :D

Right now he is fired from our club - picking Plano - what was he thinking!

[trojanbacker]

If you give the edge on offense to Plano and the edge on defense to Trinity, what about the kicking game? I know Trinity's is real solid but what about Plano? And Plano is +11, Trinity +9 in turnovers this year. Pretty evenly matched.

[TheScout]

If you give the edge on offense to Plano and the edge on defense to Trinity, what about the kicking game? I know Trinity's is real solid but what about Plano? And Plano is +11, Trinity +9 in turnovers this year. Pretty evenly matched.
Trinity O = Plano O
Trinity D > Plano D

Just look at the avg scores

[NHB06]

If you give the edge on offense to Plano and the edge on defense to Trinity, what about the kicking game? I know Trinity's is real solid but what about Plano? And Plano is +11, Trinity +9 in turnovers this year. Pretty evenly matched.

The kicking game at Plano is solid.

[THSHarmonyDad]

New to the forum, however long time reader, first time contributor. Trinity's offense is underated. They score when they want to, or if you like, when they have to. How many times have you seen Trinity fail to score on their next possession when some team has scored on them. I have been watching Lineweavers Trojans since he first came to Trinity. This is his best coached team. The clock management they displayed against Marcus was the best I have seen in any high school game I have ever seen. Lineweaver makes adjustments on defense from game to game. Norman playing Safety and Kande at Cornerback worked beautifully against Marcus. Plano will have to get up by 2 touchdowns to win this one. Possible, but unlikely. Trinity may miss Barnett in this one, but they should win and move on.

[TrojanFan4Life]

New to the forum, however long time reader, first time contributor. Trinity's offense is underated. They score when they want to, or if you like, when they have to. How many times have you seen Trinity fail to score on their next possession when some team has scored on them. I have been watching Lineweavers Trojans since he first came to Trinity. This is his best coached team. The clock management they displayed against Marcus was the best I have seen in any high school game I have ever seen. Lineweaver makes adjustments on defense from game to game. Norman playing Safety and Kande at Cornerback worked beautifully against Marcus. Plano will have to get up by 2 touchdowns to win this one. Possible, but unlikely. Trinity should win this one and move on.

Welcome to the board - I have been sad that we aren't the home team lately - I LOVE LOVE LOVE listening to Harmony sing the national anthem -as a matter of fact LOVE Christmas time since I know they will be coming to my school to perform - they were awesome at the HEBISD 50th Anniversary Gala - what an amazing group of young men and women! Love that Mr. Dean:D

[THSHarmonyDad]

They are a talented group and if you have never seen them you are in for a treat if you do.

[powerofthehaka]

I can't wait for this game. I'm even thinking about bringing the dress out of retirement. Thoughts?

You are a big chicken.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/11858266@N07/2408534095/

[PirateFan]

i have yet to see trinity play this year but hadnt had the chance till this Sat vs plano. We know all to well what plano can pull out of the hat but that doesnt make them a steam roller by any means. I am really looking forward to seeing trinity

good luck to both teams :D:D

[TrojanMom88]

New to the forum, however long time reader, first time contributor. Trinity's offense is underated. They score when they want to, or if you like, when they have to. How many times have you seen Trinity fail to score on their next possession when some team has scored on them. I have been watching Lineweavers Trojans since he first came to Trinity. This is his best coached team. The clock management they displayed against Marcus was the best I have seen in any high school game I have ever seen. Lineweaver makes adjustments on defense from game to game. Norman playing Safety and Kande at Cornerback worked beautifully against Marcus. Plano will have to get up by 2 touchdowns to win this one. Possible, but unlikely. Trinity may miss Barnett in this one, but they should win and move on.

Welcome to the board!!

We hate that he is out, but we wish him well at TEXAS! To say we will miss him this week goes against what Trinity is made of... moving on to the NEXT opponent! We missed him in the second half of the Colleyville game. We adjusted that next week and now we are gelling pretty well in D and if you didn't know he was out you really wouldn't miss him. With that said HE IS AN AWESOME PLAYER AND HE MADE BIG CONTRIBUTION WHEN HE PLAYED! But it is time for others to make those contributions and they are stepping up in BIG TROJAN FASHION!!!:)

[THSHarmonyDad]

Well said. Again , Lineweaver and staff make excellent adjustments. Nothing against Emery, but #27 at LB, #2 at S, and #8 at CB did the trick against Marcus. I am curious if this will continue or will another adjustment be made for Plano.

[jttexas515]

I think Tech would be a great fit. Leach told him that he would make him the number 1 receiver in the country. I think he views him like he views Crabtree. That says a lot about Rex's abilities.
Yeah... i think he would be a good wes welker type fit to the tech offense..

[texas_smoke69]

This should be a great game.... too bad it's so early in the playoffs.
I like to let ET do the talking on the field and let everyone else do the BS'ing.
Damn our D is TIGHT!!!

Go Trojans!!!!

[jttexas515]

Well he's really laying it on either way.

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http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=378&f=3518&t=3410551
A few notes..

I saw Trinity play Carter in the scrimmage
I saw Trinity play John Curtis
I saw Trinity play Allen on TV
I saw 75% of the Trinity vs. Marcus game..

Carter pushed Trinity around
John Curtis pushed Trinity aroundNow - does Plano have the athletes to push Trinity around? Probably not on the offensive line - they are down on the offensive line - but you don't think Burkhead is going to punish whoever tackles him? I think the offensive line is good enough for Plano to at least get a neutral push - and if they get a neutral push - Burkhead can do a lot.

Now - most observers note that Marcus only got 109 yards. Well, 56 + 15 for penalties came on that first drive. Based on what I saw on THAT DRIVE - and THAT DRIVE ALONE - I can see Plano doing that type of drive all night - as long as they don't make mistakes.

Trinity is not that scary. IMO, the best team I saw at Texas Stadium on Saturday was Southlake Carroll - that Southlake Carroll team, for that 48 minutes, is better than Trinity..

Now, people have implied I just don't like Trinity because I haven't created a shrine for them. Trinity gets as much coverage if not more than any state champion team. We have personally had someone (out of a 3 man coverage team!) at 6 of their 11 games. I can't fathom thinking that we discriminate against them!

I have always thought Trinity is one of those fanbases that tries in general to be respectful, they compliment their opponents - Steve Lineweaver is a class act - love the guy - we enjoy seeing him at 7 on 7 and various combines - however, the fans that represent the community just are not tolerant of different opinions - when ultimately - the only opinion that matters will be at about 8:47pm on Saturday when the Trinity will be watching the rest of the playoffs from lovely and scenic Euless, TX.

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=378&f=3518&t=3410551

i like the way you think.. either or it will be a tremendous game i think!

[HakaPoppa12]

me too

No, you hope Trinity loses because you are next. Either way it doesn't matter because Odessa can't beat either team. I predict Odessa doesn't make it out of the third round. Maybe not even the second.

[Tsup]

Just win baby and why your at it HIT someone :notworthy:laugh:laugh That is funny, especially with the DMN title "Usual recipe puts Euless Trinity in area round" Euless Trinity followed its formula. No one has seen anything different out of Euless this year.:p

[Planofan2007]

Here you are again. :rolleyes: When a player is moving backwards...his forward progress is stopped, and a fumble cannot occur. That is in every rule book at every level of football. Now surely in all of you infinite wisdom you know that.

Does it matter the result was the same you still won by 3 which is what you were up by when the fumble happened.

[THSHarmonyDad]

This Matt Diggs makes a bold prediction. Anyone is entitled to his opinion, but if I were a reputable journalist reference high school football I would be leary on making such statements. If he really believes what he is saying I would have to question his credibility. If he is trying to jack Trinity up he is doing an excellent job. Either way his statement is questionable at best.

[Tsup]

hmm didnt Trinty's defense hold Allen to 10 points at home ? And planos defense held Allen a little under 60 ;o) kindas makes me wonder even with all the weak :Censor: teams plano has played how many points there D has given up ? Conpared to Trinty. Im sure thats a very telling stat.


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[Plano Wildcat Fan]

Actually, trojandad many around the state really do think Trinity's only been a good program since 2005.


They have been a good program with glimpes of greatness in the early 80's and early 90's. Over the last 5 years they have been a great program. History will tell if it keeps this success over the next 10 years or so. They have had some really strong D1 athletes over the last couple years.

[Trinity75]

In order for Plano to steamroll Trinity they have to stop #29, No wait #7, No wait #25, no wait #31, no wait #3, no wait #9, no wait #10 no wait #11, no wait #30, no wait #33, no wait #83 and that's just some of the Offensive weapons. On Defense they need to control #99, no wait #76, no wait #47, no wait #2, no wait #27, no wait #28, oh heck I can't even keep up with all the weapons Trinity has.
I know one thing I would hate to be a scout trying to send a report back to the head coach. I would be like "Coach, I think we better just show up and hope for the best, because I can't tell you a dang thing other than they have more weapons than General Patton did!" "And they are all good!" :ninja:

[farmerfan]

Plano SUCKS

[Planofan2007]

In order for Plano to steamroll Trinity they have to stop #29, No wait #7, No wait #25, no wait #31, no wait #3, no wait #9, no wait #10 no wait #11, no wait #30, no wait #33, no wait #83 and that's just some of the Offensive weapons. On Defense they need to control #99, no wait #76, no wait #47, no wait #2, no wait #27, no wait #28, oh heck I can't even keep up with all the weapons Trinity has.
I know one thing I would hate to be a scout trying to send a report back to the head coach. I would be like "Coach, I think we better just show up and hope for the best, because I can't tell you a dang thing other than they have more weapons than General Patton did!" "And they are all good!" :ninja:

All thoose guys on the field at the same time on offense?? Think they might get a penalty for to many man on the field.....

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

hmm didnt Trinty's defense hold Allen to 10 points at home ? And planos defense held Allen a little under 60 ;o) kindas makes me wonder even with all the weak :Censor: teams plano has played how many points there D has given up ? Conpared to Trinty. Im sure thats a very telling stat.



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Last time I checked your entire district got steam rolled in the first round which tells me as you put it "weak :Censor:"

Last time I checked 3 teams Plano beat are still in the playoffs. Desoto, Hebron, Wylie. Which is more than Trinity.

Somehow with our blind, one legged 120 pound defense we managed to be at 10-1.

[ASH1157]

They are a talented group and if you have never seen them you are in for a treat if you do.

Totally agree with this assessment. They're not easily rattled, they practice pristine clock management. And, any mistake your team makes will probably cost you the game.

That being said...I think Plano has the firepower to beat them. But, Plano sometimes gets in its own way (which I blame on coaching more than anything).

Should be a great game.

[THSHarmonyDad]

That statement was about the THS Show Choir Harmony. However, you are correct in your assessment of the football team. McGee in particular is a cool customer.

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

Plano does have a chance to win, just like every team that is still in the playoffs has a chance to win. The question to ask is "is it likely Plano will win?" The chances of plano winning is very slim. PWF will tell you if plano doesn't have turnovers they will win. Thats a good one PWF. I can win the lottery if I get all the numbers right!!! I have a chance to win correct but what is the odds of me winning um 1 out of millions. Just about the likely hood of plano not having a turnover and playing the perfect game. What is the likely hood of trinity winning the game 1of10 so very high likely hood. Wait Plano has a chance to win if they don't turn it over. In any sporting event from football, hockey, tennis, baseball and many other sports the opposition has a chance to win that is a given a:Censor: plano fans.
Your defense doesn't have a good chance of stopping trinity offense. The last two big games against allen and trinity, plano has turned the ball over 9 times so we will look at the past to perdict the future which points to a trinity win and many turnovers from plano!! Good day oh yeah in the early 2000's didn't plano go like 1-10 or 0-10 good program.

Darn skimppy and I'll say it again. If Plano doesn't turn the ball over then they win!!!

What's with the insults. My goodness I stated a opinion just because you don't like you hide behid a blog and you throw out bravado BS. It's amazing how tough you are hiding behind your keyboard.

How much do you really don't like Plano? I't can't be as much as grayowl can it?

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

In order for Plano to steamroll Trinity they have to stop #29, No wait #7, No wait #25, no wait #31, no wait #3, no wait #9, no wait #10 no wait #11, no wait #30, no wait #33, no wait #83 and that's just some of the Offensive weapons. On Defense they need to control #99, no wait #76, no wait #47, no wait #2, no wait #27, no wait #28, oh heck I can't even keep up with all the weapons Trinity has.
I know one thing I would hate to be a scout trying to send a report back to the head coach. I would be like "Coach, I think we better just show up and hope for the best, because I can't tell you a dang thing other than they have more weapons than General Patton did!" "And they are all good!" :ninja:

"just words, just numbers" Are those numbers some of those 23 RB's

For your informaton Plano has a few players that know a thing or two about playing football. Hopefully they won't poop in their pants when they see the TT's walk out on the field.

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

I stole this from Mr. Digg's post so I give him full credit. Great mines think alike.

-- Most people had Trinity #1, Plano #2 until Plano had ONE bad game and Allen had a perfect game. If Trinity gets to write off the Carter scrimmage where Carter beat them as "one of those things that doesn't count" - certainly now, 10-1 Plano can write off the Allen game as a perfect storm that doesn't count. 5 turnovers and a chunk of the middle tier of players hurt/failed.

-- Plano has its share of speed - Kris Lott, Holt H, Carson Meger, Laron Kelly - you are underestimating Plano's defense - but that doesn't even get to the heart of my point. Plano has the best player on the Field. Elite players do elite things on elite stages - and it doesn't get more elite than Superman in possibly his last game of his high school football career.

Over the last four years, Plano has lost to Southlake in the playoffs and Trinity in the playoffs - both won state championships. A lot of the big ones have a defining senior year with a state championship. You don't think Burkhead is going to shine on the biggest stage? A state championship is the only thing that is left on his legacy - and it it requires him to be in offense, defense and special teams - he'll play every play - because it could be his last..
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[THSBandDad]

Smartest thing you admitted is the truth that I do have infinite wisdom. Since you lack any wisdom and are crying over a game played last year, it was called a fumble get over it.:rolleyes:

Plano lost. Take your own advice.

[powerofthehaka]

i like the way you think.. either or it will be a tremendous game i think!

Originally Posted by TrojanHorse03 View Post
Well he's really laying it on either way.

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http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=378&f=3518&t=3410551
A few notes..

I saw Trinity play Carter in the scrimmage
I saw Trinity play John Curtis
I saw Trinity play Allen on TV
I saw 75% of the Trinity vs. Marcus game..

Carter pushed Trinity around
John Curtis pushed Trinity aroundNow - does Plano have the athletes to push Trinity around? Probably not on the offensive line - they are down on the offensive line - but you don't think Burkhead is going to punish whoever tackles him? I think the offensive line is good enough for Plano to at least get a neutral push - and if they get a neutral push - Burkhead can do a lot.

Now - most observers note that Marcus only got 109 yards. Well, 56 + 15 for penalties came on that first drive. Based on what I saw on THAT DRIVE - and THAT DRIVE ALONE - I can see Plano doing that type of drive all night - as long as they don't make mistakes.

Trinity is not that scary. IMO, the best team I saw at Texas Stadium on Saturday was Southlake Carroll - that Southlake Carroll team, for that 48 minutes, is better than Trinity..

Now, people have implied I just don't like Trinity because I haven't created a shrine for them. Trinity gets as much coverage if not more than any state champion team. We have personally had someone (out of a 3 man coverage team!) at 6 of their 11 games. I can't fathom thinking that we discriminate against them!

I have always thought Trinity is one of those fanbases that tries in general to be respectful, they compliment their opponents - Steve Lineweaver is a class act - love the guy - we enjoy seeing him at 7 on 7 and various combines - however, the fans that represent the community just are not tolerant of different opinions - when ultimately - the only opinion that matters will be at about 8:47pm on Saturday when the Trinity will be watching the rest of the playoffs from lovely and scenic Euless, TX.

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=378&f=3518&t=3410551

Has the dude not ever taken a journalistic ethics course?

[TrojanMom88]

I stole this from Mr. Digg's post so I give him full credit. Great mines think alike.

-- Most people had Trinity #1, Plano #2 until Plano had ONE bad game and Allen had a perfect game. If Trinity gets to write off the Carter scrimmage where Carter beat them as "one of those things that doesn't count" - certainly now, 10-1 Plano can write off the Allen game as a perfect storm that doesn't count. 5 turnovers and a chunk of the middle tier of players hurt/failed.

-- Plano has its share of speed - Kris Lott, Holt H, Carson Meger, Laron Kelly - you are underestimating Plano's defense - but that doesn't even get to the heart of my point. Plano has the best player on the Field. Elite players do elite things on elite stages - and it doesn't get more elite than Superman in possibly his last game of his high school football career.

Over the last four years, Plano has lost to Southlake in the playoffs and Trinity in the playoffs - both won state championships. A lot of the big ones have a defining senior year with a state championship. You don't think Burkhead is going to shine on the biggest stage? A state championship is the only thing that is left on his legacy - and it it requires him to be in offense, defense and special teams - he'll play every play - because it could be his last..
--



This Week Trinity is 1-0 and Plano is 1-0, the rest is irrelevent!

[TrojanHorse03]

This Week Trinity is 1-0 and Plano is 1-0, the rest is irrelevent!

:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy!!!!!!!!!!

[powerofthehaka]

I stole this from Mr. Digg's post so I give him full credit. Great mines think alike.

-- Most people had Trinity #1, Plano #2 until Plano had ONE bad game and Allen had a perfect game. If Trinity gets to write off the Carter scrimmage where Carter beat them as "one of those things that doesn't count" - certainly now, 10-1 Plano can write off the Allen game as a perfect storm that doesn't count. 5 turnovers and a chunk of the middle tier of players hurt/failed.

-- Plano has its share of speed - Kris Lott, Holt H, Carson Meger, Laron Kelly - you are underestimating Plano's defense - but that doesn't even get to the heart of my point. Plano has the best player on the Field. Elite players do elite things on elite stages - and it doesn't get more elite than Superman in possibly his last game of his high school football career.

Over the last four years, Plano has lost to Southlake in the playoffs and Trinity in the playoffs - both won state championships. A lot of the big ones have a defining senior year with a state championship. You don't think Burkhead is going to shine on the biggest stage? A state championship is the only thing that is left on his legacy - and it it requires him to be in offense, defense and special teams - he'll play every play - because it could be his last..
--

The only part of this statement I might have a problem with is in red.
How does a pre-season scrimmage and a district game even compare?

[THSHarmonyDad]

I stole this from Mr. Digg's post so I give him full credit. Great mines think alike.

-- Most people had Trinity #1, Plano #2 until Plano had ONE bad game and Allen had a perfect game. If Trinity gets to write off the Carter scrimmage where Carter beat them as "one of those things that doesn't count" - certainly now, 10-1 Plano can write off the Allen game as a perfect storm that doesn't count. 5 turnovers and a chunk of the middle tier of players hurt/failed.

-- Plano has its share of speed - Kris Lott, Holt H, Carson Meger, Laron Kelly - you are underestimating Plano's defense - but that doesn't even get to the heart of my point. Plano has the best player on the Field. Elite players do elite things on elite stages - and it doesn't get more elite than Superman in possibly his last game of his high school football career.

Over the last four years, Plano has lost to Southlake in the playoffs and Trinity in the playoffs - both won state championships. A lot of the big ones have a defining senior year with a state championship. You don't think Burkhead is going to shine on the biggest stage? A state championship is the only thing that is left on his legacy - and it it requires him to be in offense, defense and special teams - he'll play every play - because it could be his last..
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You are comparing (or Mr. Diggs) a scrimmage to a game the magnitude of Plano vs Allen. If you know Lineweaver at all you would know that he could care less about winning a scrimmage, however he cares greatly about his team improving. Emphasis on team! not just his starters. His team, his whole team.

[TrojanMom88]

You are comparing (or Mr. Diggs) a scrimmage to a game the magnitude of Plano vs Allen. If you know Lineweaver at all you would know that he could care less about winning a scrimmage, however he cares greatly about his team improving. Emphasis on team! not just his starters. His team, his whole team.

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[Tsup]

Just to set the record straight on Trey, Trey plays mainly fullback, he started this year as a tail back and then sacraficed what was rightfully his at that position for the better of the team. Trey is 6'2 225 and what trinity was missing was that big bruising blocker at flanker and tail back. Stetson was running full back and is a great blocker but it left our floating flanker that leads a bit weaker than former years. So trey in true trinity fashion gave up his 1500 yard season to do the dirty work and fulfill the coaches wishes for the team. There is no more intense player, Trey will flat kncok your block off and open holes right there with the hawgs. Stetson moved to that floating flanker and increased the lead blocking 2 fold. This kind of sacrafice of personel glory for the good of the team is why Trinity is who they are. trey is right where he belongs this year and im more than sure rex would be greatful to have a fullback like Trey opening holes in front of him. The tailbacks get the press and trinty has very deep talent at tailback. But the full back makes the whole thing go without Trey we are not the same team. Trey is a warrior, a unselfish young man, hes a true team player and has the heart of a lion. last year trey broke his leg against bell. Three weeks later against bowie he came in the game and caught a 60 yard pass for a TD hyper ectending his knee. We dont make state without Trey last year or this year. You can question stats but understand this young man is truly outstanding example of what a team player is and the sacrafices that have to be made by individuals to become a truly great team. trinity is full of players that sacrafice there own goals for the goals of the team and this is what makes them a little bit special in my eyes. A team full of stars that are humble and play with one purpose. 20 seniors this year with god knows how many who could start at any other school running scout team to make them better each and every week. You can have your superman and tripletts, I wouldnt trade anyone of these unselfish kids that practise and play as brothers for anyone player that a whole team depends on !
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[THSBandDad]

Last time I checked your entire district got steam rolled in the first round which tells me as you put it "weak :Censor:"

Last time I checked 3 teams Plano beat are still in the playoffs. Desoto, Hebron, Wylie. Which is more than Trinity.

Somehow with our blind, one legged 120 pound defense we managed to be at 10-1.

Gotta toss the BS flag on that one. Bell wasn't "steam rolled" by any means. Losing on a play with 17 seconds left in the game after pretty well dominating the rest of the game doesn't qualify as being "steam rolled".

And claiming DeSoto?

[TrojanMom28]

I LOVE OUR LINEBACKERS!!!!!:notworthy:notworthy

And they are gonna .....HIT SOMEBODY!!!!!!:D:D:D

[The Original]

This Week Trinity is 1-0 and Plano is 1-0, the rest is irrelevent!


I love Trinity posters and their amazing logic. :D

[THSHarmonyDad]

THSBandDad is right. Did you forget Allen, maybe the second best team in Texas, John Curtis, the best team in Louisiana, and Cedar Hill, not chopped liver. No one, probably nationwide has played Trinty's schedule. And if they do run the table undefeated, every poll except the Max Prep Poll will have them #1 in the nation.

[LP-79]

I got no dog in this fight but just gotta stir it up some. PWF loves his team but just like past 2 or 3 years I bet he does same thing this year. Not post for a couple days after his tean loses. Then come on here blasting poor coaching, poor blind refs, or some other excuse. As the famous quote goes. ACT LIKE YOU BEEN HERE BEFORE! If you win be gracious to the losers, if you lose be even more gracious to the team that won.

[Tsup]

points allowed this year euless trinity 125 plano 279 enough said, a punt is a turnover in this game defense wins championships. Last time I checked your entire district got steam rolled in the first round which tells me as you put it "weak :Censor:"

Last time I checked 3 teams Plano beat are still in the playoffs. Desoto, Hebron, Wylie. Which is more than Trinity.

Somehow with our blind, one legged 120 pound defense we managed to be at 10-1.

[farmerfan]

I got no dog in this fight but just gotta stir it up some. PWF loves his team but just like past 2 or 3 years I bet he does same thing this year. Not post for a couple days after his tean loses. Then come on here blasting poor coaching, poor blind refs, or some other excuse. As the famous quote goes. ACT LIKE YOU BEEN HERE BEFORE! If you win be gracious to the losers, if you lose be even more gracious to the team that won.

PWF was here after Trinity beat Plano last year.
He wasn't for the Allen game because he was on KT Vacation.
Even though PWF's teams and city and screename SUCK, he is usually a pretty stand up guy.
I believe you are getting him confused with Texasfrog.

[Tsup]

:notworthy:notworthy:notworthyI got no dog in this fight but just gotta stir it up some. PWF loves his team but just like past 2 or 3 years I bet he does same thing this year. Not post for a couple days after his tean loses. Then come on here blasting poor coaching, poor blind refs, or some other excuse. As the famous quote goes. ACT LIKE YOU BEEN HERE BEFORE! If you win be gracious to the losers, if you lose be even more gracious to the team that won.

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

Gotta toss the BS flag on that one. Bell wasn't "steam rolled" by any means. Losing on a play with 17 seconds left in the game after pretty well dominating the rest of the game doesn't qualify as being "steam rolled".

And claiming DeSoto?


Their still playing & your district isn't. Bell wasn't good enough to make a stop when need now were they. Yes, they were steamrolled on that last drive. If they were the better team they would won.

[Tsup]

No steam rolled is what Allen did to you at home, steam rolled is a deffense that gives up 279 points this year. If steam rolled is what happened to bell you got steam rolled in double OT last yearTheir still playing & your district isn't. Bell wasn't good enough to make a stop when need now were they. Yes, they were steamrolled on that last drive. If they were the better team they would won.

[TrojanMom88]

I love Trinity posters and their amazing logic. :D

It may very well be amazing logic...

Everyone who is 0-1 is storing their pads and helmets until the spring!!


I would bet Marcus isn't talking about everyone that we have beat. I would however bet they are talking about how they were beaten Saturday.

The same goes for Duncanville in regards to Plano!

Come Saturday there are a few things I know for sure:

1. Trinity and Plano will play for 4 quarters.
2. Both TEAMS will bring everything they have.
3. Both Teams will leave it all on field.
4. The Team that is still bringing it when the clock strikes 00:00 in the forth will win!
5. If they are both bringing it at the end of the forth, the TEAM with the fewest mistakes wins!
6. One TEAM will go home and one Team will move on!


For the sake of the Fifty some odd Seniors on the Trinity Trojans, I pray that it is the TEAM in Maroon!!!!

Most Importantly I pray that we have a healthy game for both TEAMS!

Football isn't everything, but it can't certainly take you places!!

[jttexas515]

I LOVE OUR LINEBACKERS!!!!!:notworthy:notworthy

And they are gonna .....HIT SOMEBODY!!!!!!:D:D:D

I played for Plano, and I would like to ask you if we can borrow a few of your backup linebackers.. haha.. I'm not going to lie.. Plano's LB's except for probably Sophmore Ben Laures.. Suck horribly! They know NO assignments whatsoever.. and always seem lost!! And for our CB's... Well nothing good to say about them either, you know it's bad when Kris Lott has to go in there on redzone coverage.

[Trojan4653]

In order for Plano to steamroll Trinity they have to stop #29, No wait #7, No wait #25, no wait #31, no wait #3, no wait #9, no wait #10 no wait #11, no wait #30, no wait #33, no wait #83 and that's just some of the Offensive weapons. On Defense they need to control #99, no wait #76, no wait #47, no wait #2, no wait #27, no wait #28, oh heck I can't even keep up with all the weapons Trinity has.
I know one thing I would hate to be a scout trying to send a report back to the head coach. I would be like "Coach, I think we better just show up and hope for the best, because I can't tell you a dang thing other than they have more weapons than General Patton did!" "And they are all good!" :ninja:

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[TrojanMom88]

I played for Plano, and I would like to ask you if we can borrow a few of your backup linebackers.. haha.. I'm not going to lie.. Plano's LB's except for probably Sophmore Ben Laures.. Suck horribly! They know NO assignments whatsoever.. and always seem lost!! And for our CB's... Well nothing good to say about them either, you know it's bad when Kris Lott has to go in there on redzone coverage.

I still can't help but wonder how these guys will be able to produce offensively, if Trinity keeps them in the RED ZONE for 5-7 plays each and every possession?

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

I got no dog in this fight but just gotta stir it up some. PWF loves his team but just like past 2 or 3 years I bet he does same thing this year. Not post for a couple days after his tean loses. Then come on here blasting poor coaching, poor blind refs, or some other excuse. As the famous quote goes. ACT LIKE YOU BEEN HERE BEFORE! If you win be gracious to the losers, if you lose be even more gracious to the team that won.

Please show me where I was a poor loser and bad mouthed the winning team against Plano. . The Allen game, I gave all props to Allen they had a perfect night and plano didn't. Last year's trinity vs Plano was a back and forth afair between two equal teams and Plano happened to lose that time around.

If Trinity win's then I will give all respect to and wish them well. Then I will go away until 2 a days. I'm sure their might be 1 or folks on here that might like that.:D The board will get boring just like Trinity's offense. ;)

Yes, I am guilty of piling on Brence but wouldn't you after all the mediocre years he lead this great program. I remember a few weeks back the LP fans in a uproar on their subpar season whether Outlaw had fallen behind the times. Weren't you part of that discussion!! ready to run him out of town.

Finally, Yes I have been their before, I was part of some great Plano title teams back in the day. I expect it to happen agains this year. See you in Reliant on December 20th

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

I still can't help but wonder how these guys will be able to produce offensively, if Trinity keeps them in the RED ZONE for 5-7 plays each and every possession?


I'm sure they will hobble out their and give it their best even if the face of such a powerful in perfect harmony of a team. It's quite daunting. They might just decide to stay on the bus.

[TheScout]

hmm didnt trinty's defense hold allen to 10 points at home ? And planos defense held allen a little under 60 ;o) kindas makes me wonder even with all the weak :censor: Teams plano has played how many points there d has given up ? Conpared to trinty. Im sure thats a very telling stat.


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