The Woodlands vs. RR Stony Point (Round 2)

[TWHSDad]

Rack 'em up, two hot spread offenses with capable defenses, this will be a game of opportunity. The team that commits the fewest errors, has best field position will walk away with this one.

So, who wins, by how much and why??? Get your brains working smart guys (gals!)

[CCC09]

This has to be one of the best games for round 2. both top notch defenses and great offenses. I think if TWHS could step their game early( not like 1st half of TWHS vs. Wesfield) then they could win this in a very close one we might even see OT.

[MOJO_MAGIC]

This is gonna be a good one. Definitely the toughest opponent TWHS has seen this year. If they play defense like they did last night, they should move on.................

[Mr. Rod]

Im undecided in this game. I don't know much about Stony Point, so I can't really make a prediction.

[twcpfan1]

RRSP seems to be a team that likes to run from the spread based on the Langham Creek game.

Glasco Martin - 28 carries 154 yds

4 others - 26 carries total (qb ran it 14 times)

Passing - 8 attempts 3 completions for 42 yds

PF - 35
PA - 13
9-1 , 7-0 (wtf happened against 4a Waco?)

[KatyTigerDad0407]

I voted for the district champs because they are playing at home. Coach Outlaw got it done on the road with only 15 points, so IMO the visitors are vulnerable. If Soney Point's defense does not show up, this game is over and the Highlanders move on.

[twcpfan1]

I voted for the district champs because they are playing at home. Coach Outlaw got it done on the road with only 15 points, so IMO the visitors are vulnerable. If Soney Point's defense does not show up, this game is over and the Highlanders move on.

RRSP ranked 10
TW ranked 12

RRSP at home. Should be a great game. I'll go with the higher ranked home team too in a nail biter. TW could break loose though after the long awaited playoff win.

[Highlandr]

Hopefully the last TD vs. WF is an indication that Schmid got the other 98 pages of the 100 page playbook unstuck.

[KT2000]

RRSP seems to be a team that likes to run from the spread based on the Langham Creek game.

Glasco Martin - 28 carries 154 yds

4 others - 26 carries total (qb ran it 14 times)

Passing - 8 attempts 3 completions for 42 yds

PF - 35
PA - 13
9-1 , 7-0 (wtf happened against 4a Waco?)

Stony Point can pass, so I wouldn't pay much attention to those numbers from the game last night. I think the wind hurt everyone in that respect. Stony Point has a very good team with tremendous athletic ability.

Their head coach Craig Chessher was North Shore's defensive coordinator in 2003, so he is familiar with The Woodlands. He moved to Stony Point after that season, and he has turned them into a strong program. They were a doormat before he arrived.

[twcpfan1]

Stony Point can pass, so I wouldn't pay much attention to those numbers from the game last night. I think the wind hurt everyone in that respect. Stony Point has a very good team with tremendous athletic ability.

Their head coach Craig Chessher was North Shore's defensive coordinator in 2003, so he is familiar with The Woodlands. He moved to Stony Point after that season, and he has turned them into a strong program. They were a doormat before he arrived.

Adamo, Clapsaddle and Maires are so freakin good, they may want to try and run anyway. It's where teams have been able to gain yards in the past. (not counting last night of course, because WF's running game is nonexistent) If they can pass as well, they could be a tough matchup with that kind of balance.

[Tiger Fan]

RRSP seems to be a team that likes to run from the spread based on the Langham Creek game.

Glasco Martin - 28 carries 154 yds

4 others - 26 carries total (qb ran it 14 times)

Passing - 8 attempts 3 completions for 42 yds

PF - 35
PA - 13
9-1 , 7-0 (wtf happened against 4a Waco?)

The Waco game was the Ike weekend. Wind was a factor; Waco kicker nailed a 63 yard field goal. Also the band and drill team's buses were confiscated by the government to evacuate Ike victims. As a drill team parent also, we like to remind our coach that the only game we lost was when the band and Tiger Dancers weren't there!

[Robeck09]

When should we find out where the game is at?

[SP Tiger Backer]

This game is to close to call. I will go with SP just based on a home pick.

[SP Tiger Backer]

When should we find out where the game is at?

The game will be at the Palace (RRISD Athletic Complex) just a few miles from Round Rock at 7:30 on Friday

[d-train]

Stoney Point has a GREAT DEFENSE! Their offense isn't as explosive as last year, Nunn was faster and OL was better. The Woodlands is in for a battle. They are a 5A version of Alamo Heights!

[SPTigerfan]

When should we find out where the game is at?

The game is at place is at the Palace giving SP home field advantage...

Date - Friday the 21st

Time - 7:30

Sp coaches will have the Tigers ready for what is going to be a great game...SP will have it's HUGE fan base there as usual and they are LOUD and PROUD.

I also heard that the Woodlands were pretty banged up after their game with Spring West.


GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO TIGERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[SPTigerfan]

Rack 'em up, two hot spread offenses with capable defenses, this will be a game of opportunity. The team that commits the fewest errors, has best field position will walk away with this one.

So, who wins, by how much and why??? Get your brains working smart guys (gals!)


I agree, this will be a great game on both sides of the ball. I honestly can say that this is one game that mental toughness is as important as athletic ability.

Go Tigers!!!

[- sTp -]

Stony Point can pass, so I wouldn't pay much attention to those numbers from the game last night. I think the wind hurt everyone in that respect. Stony Point has a very good team with tremendous athletic ability.

That was just rough. The wind played tricks on both teams the entire night. Heck, one of our kickoffs into the wind went about 20 yards before stalling mid-air and ended up an unintentional onside kick..

Their head coach Craig Chessher was North Shore's defensive coordinator in 2003, so he is familiar with The Woodlands. He moved to Stony Point after that season, and he has turned them into a strong program. They were a doormat before he arrived.

I'm glad I wasn't the only one that noticed this little tidbit of information.

This is going to be one heck of a game. I predict another 5-10 years off my life in this nail-biter defensive struggle.

Go Tigers!!

[sTp2005]

Do The Woodlands fans travel? I hope they do because it would be awesome to have a HUGE crowd on both sides.

[thatboycommin]

Woodlands Will bring a heavy crowd!

[twcpfan1]

Woodlands Will bring a heavy crowd!

It's a nice stadium. Reminds me of the Bank. But larger.

[twhfan#1]

Do The Woodlands fans travel? I hope they do because it would be awesome to have a HUGE crowd on both sides.

If it was Sat -- you could pretty much count on full visitor side --- 730 on a Fri night is tough -- 3 - 3 1/2 hours WITHOUT traffic -- that means have to leave no later than 330 pm---if the Woodlands fans that work in Houston cant get off work REAL early or 1 hr or so early if work in Woodlands -- it will be tough to make that trip

[teXan]

RRSP ranked 10
TW ranked 12

RRSP at home. Should be a great game. I'll go with the higher ranked home team too in a nail biter. TW could break loose though after the long awaited playoff win.

Those are overall rankings. If you look at rankings on either side of the ball (according to 5ATF), it's more along these lines (as of Week 10):

The Woodlands
PPG Avg - 37.1 | PPG Rank - 27
PAPG Avg - 8.3 | PAPG Rank - 2
Def Shut Out - 3 (Defense also shut out Westfield in Round 1)
Most Points Allowed - 17

RR Stony Point
PPG Avg - 35.0 | PPG Rank - 44
PAPG Avg - 13.3 | PAPG Rank - 20
Def Shut Out - 1
Most Points Allowed - 23

As you can tell from these stats, these two teams are pretty well matched up but The Woodlands (barely) comes out on top. Both teams have lots of scoring potential. Both teams have nearly impervious defenses. This is one of those games where the teams are so closely matched that it easily warrants being a game of the week.

I can't wait for next Friday. I wonder if my boss will let me skip work again.

[Ralph Kramden]

If TWHS offense that we all know comes out on all cylinders from the opening whistle, it will be a great game. TWHS should win. Both teams, as teXan has shown, are very evenly matched. I can hardly wait for the 3 1/2 hr drive to sit in the Austin traffic. :eek:

[SP Tiger Backer]

Those are overall rankings. If you look at rankings on either side of the ball (according to 5ATF), it's more along these lines (as of Week 10):

The Woodlands
PPG Avg - 37.1 | PPG Rank - 27
PAPG Avg - 8.3 | PAPG Rank - 2
Def Shut Out - 3 (Defense also shut out Westfield in Round 1)
Most Points Allowed - 17

RR Stony Point
PPG Avg - 35.0 | PPG Rank - 44
PAPG Avg - 13.3 | PAPG Rank - 20
Def Shut Out - 1
Most Points Allowed - 23

As you can tell from these stats, these two teams are pretty well matched up but The Woodlands (barely) comes out on top. Both teams have lots of scoring potential. Both teams have nearly impervious defenses. This is one of those games where the teams are so closely matched that it easily warrants being a game of the week.

I can't wait for next Friday. I wonder if my boss will let me skip work again.

You can always call in sick ;) I agree the stats make them look pretty even but because they did not play the same teams its not always clear. TW could have even a bigger edge or SP may even be a little stronger. It should be a great game though for sure.

[The Wood]

Any Highlander fans interested in renting a bus outside QBC for the ride to RR? If so, let's talk via PM.

[STPFootball2011]

That was just rough. The wind played tricks on both teams the entire night. Heck, one of our kickoffs into the wind went about 20 yards before stalling mid-air and ended up an unintentional onside kick..



I'm glad I wasn't the only one that noticed this little tidbit of information.

This is going to be one heck of a game. I predict another 5-10 years off my life in this nail-biter defensive struggle.

Go Tigers!!
wind was awful last night with 30-35 mph winds which crippled the passing attack of whoever was going into the wind. offense struggled the first half but still put but defense was great all game and langham never threatened until the backups came in

[thatboycommin]

I got the highlanders on this one. If they keep them cylinders on fire like they did in the 2nd half vs westfield then it could be a looooooong night for rrstp

[Big Daddy Cool]

Since Stony Point is coached Craig Chesser and Tom Lewinski both former North Shore coaches I got to go with them.

[thatboycommin]

Since Stony Point is coached Craig Chesser and Tom Lewinski both former North Shore coaches I got to go with them.

We all are entitled with to own opinions... Hopefully the game doesnt the wind it had this weekend...

[MOJO_MAGIC]

Hopefully the last TD vs. WF is an indication that Schmid got the other 98 pages of the 100 page playbook unstuck.

Interesting take. I was hoping he'd open up the first few pages rather than the last few. Sure wouldn't mind seeing them change things up a bit with some old school pro sets, bootlegs, etc.......

[MOJO_MAGIC]

If it was Sat -- you could pretty much count on full visitor side --- 730 on a Fri night is tough -- 3 - 3 1/2 hours WITHOUT traffic -- that means have to leave no later than 330 pm---if the Woodlands fans that work in Houston cant get off work REAL early or 1 hr or so early if work in Woodlands -- it will be tough to make that trip

I know no one wants to hear this, but the truth is the truth...............:If this were a Permian game, they could play it at 4:00 on a Wednesday and the Permian side of the stadium would be packed, anywhere in Texas. I was amazed at the number of empty seats at Pridgeon last night. The Woodlands fans need to make this game a priority. The student body should create the longest carpool line in the history of the world. JUST GET THERE HIGHLANDER FAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[teXan]

I know no one wants to hear this, but the truth is the truth...............:If this were a Permian game, they could play it at 4:00 on a Wednesday and the Permian side of the stadium would be packed, anywhere in Texas. I was amazed at the number of empty seats at Pridgeon last night. The Woodlands fans need to make this game a priority. The student body should create the longest carpool line in the history of the world. JUST GET THERE HIGHLANDER FAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Believe me, if it's at all possible with being a long trip on a work day, the TW fans will be there.

[teXan]

Any Highlander fans interested in renting a bus outside QBC for the ride to RR? If so, let's talk via PM.

Count us in.

[SPTigerfan]

We all are entitled with our own opinions... Hopefully the game doesnt the wind it had this weekend...

I have already seen one forcast that predicts wind and even colder temps. I would really like to have a clear and cold night with NO wind just cause it reaked havic on our passing game.

I also would like to to see SP's BIG # 17 get some early p.t. nice job running with the ball last Friday...:D:D

[sptigerfootballguh09]

Stoney Point has a GREAT DEFENSE! Their offense isn't as explosive as last year, Nunn was faster and OL was better. The Woodlands is in for a battle. They are a 5A version of Alamo Heights!


Ryan Nunn was amazing but Glasco is pretty great himself
and never forgetting bout Stephen Williams of course

[TWHSDad]

I have already seen one forcast that predicts wind and even colder temps. I would really like to have a clear and cold night with NO wind just cause it reaked havic on our passing game.

I also would like to to see SP's BIG # 17 get some early p.t. nice job running with the ball last Friday...:D:D

Agree, would love to see real football weather for this one, cool with no wind.
Then I'd like to see both teams firing on all cylinders, lets make this one for the ages!!

TWHS - McCloud passing and moving like he can, breaking off a 15-20 yarder when he needs to, Knust and Rowe flashing by dbacks, Lasco slashing through missed tackles and flashing deep. Tweedy back in premier spot, leaping and pulling down the pass, Eastman diving, diving, diving, lets get Wolfe in to pancake a few and catch even more. All provided by Sibal, Roberge, Lindsay and Norton.
Not to mention JaLoren Baker smacking down Oline like bad news to breakup it up in the backfield or Colin crashing through an Otackle to find a wide eyed shatting himself QB while Warren and Boutheliet(sp?) catch him on his backside, maybe just maybe he gets one off, just in time for Clappy, Adamo or Roni to pick it out of the air and put it back in the O hands.

Yup, would be good see this game which is why Highlander Nation needs to be in force. If you have to quit your jobs, get to the game and then go back on Monday and either tell your boss, you were temporarily insane OR ask the government for a bailout. Either should work :D

[KatyTigerDad0407]

I can hardly wait for the 3 1/2 hr drive to sit in the Austin traffic. :eek:Great news, you no longer have to go through Austin. Even better news, RR Stadium is much like 'The Bank'. This is one of the best games football has to offer in 5a this weekend.

[Bill4par]

I am not from the Houston area...statistically, who has the better offense and who has the better dee?:)

[teXan]

I am not from the Houston area...statistically, who has the better offense and who has the better dee?:)

I posted those stats already but, of course, I'll do it again because I like looking at them that much:

The Woodlands
PPG Avg - 37.1 | PPG Rank - 27
PAPG Avg - 8.3 | PAPG Rank - 2
Def Shut Out - 3 (Defense also shut out Westfield in Round 1)
Most Points Allowed - 17

RR Stony Point
PPG Avg - 35.0 | PPG Rank - 44
PAPG Avg - 13.3 | PAPG Rank - 20
Def Shut Out - 1
Most Points Allowed - 23

What this doesn't show, however, is how well their respective opponents did, which is somewhat of an indicator of how their stats match up against same-skilled teams. On that note, TW's opponent record is 39-43 while SP's opponent record is 38-41.

I don't think you could ask for a more closely matched game.

[abileneeagles311]

according to this poll, its going to be a very close game.

[LiveSleepEatFootball]

From what I am seeing is 2 quality wins from The Woodlands were Katy and Clear Lake. Besides that the schedule and district does not look as strong as SP. The plus the loss to 5-4 Lufkin who has not been as dominate the last couple of years. And the win over westfield was expected because they have been on the backslide also. I really feel that these kids are more hungry for this game after taking the 2nd round exit last year in the cold and rain. I traveled and endured it too so I want it for them just as bad. Also being a SP Alum. COACH JAMES WHO...Go Tigers

[d-train]

The game is at place is at the Palace giving SP home field advantage...

Date - Friday the 21st

Time - 7:30

Sp coaches will have the Tigers ready for what is going to be a great game...SP will have it's HUGE fan base there as usual and they are LOUD and PROUD.

I also heard that the Woodlands were pretty banged up after their game with Spring West.


GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO TIGERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Really is no HFA in HS football. The best team usually wins. The only edge is REFS siding with wealthy schools!

[d-train]

From what I am seeing is 2 quality wins from The Woodlands were Katy and Clear Lake. Besides that the schedule and district does not look as strong as SP. The plus the loss to 5-4 Lufkin who has not been as dominate the last couple of years. And the win over westfield was expected because they have been on the backslide also. I really feel that these kids are more hungry for this game after taking the 2nd round exit last year in the cold and rain. I traveled and endured it too so I want it for them just as bad. Also being a SP Alum. COACH JAMES WHO...Go Tigers
16-5A wasn't as good as advertised, no P-ville and nearly got swept! SP won their game, but they pounded the other 3 playoff reps.

[LiveSleepEatFootball]

16-5A wasn't as good as advertised, no P-ville and nearly got swept! SP won their game, but they pounded the other 3 playoff reps.


Won Yes, Pouneded no. I believe Georetown lost By 1(wind), and CP lost by 6 in a shout out, and RR lost by 4. Great games. Do not doubt 16-5A. SP is reppin the district fine. Thats what district champs do....Just like ever other division, the district champs are in the 2,3,4 seed may have fell.

[sphsfootball2009]

I voted for the district champs because they are playing at home. Coach Outlaw got it done on the road with only 15 points, so IMO the visitors are vulnerable. If Soney Point's defense does not show up, this game is over and the Highlanders move on.


Stony Points Defense has shown up every game big so far this year. even the game we lost we lost only 9-3. This is for EVERYONE but it's Stony Point not Stoney Point.

[sphsfootball2009]

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You can always call in sick ;) I agree the stats make them look pretty even but because they did not play the same teams its not always clear. TW could have even a bigger edge or SP may even be a little stronger. It should be a great game though for sure.


and everyone says that district 16-5A is one of the toughest in texas. But The Woodlands district is pretty evenly matched as well.

[thatboycommin]

From what I am seeing is 2 quality wins from The Woodlands were Katy and Clear Lake. Besides that the schedule and district does not look as strong as SP. The plus the loss to 5-4 Lufkin who has not been as dominate the last couple of years. And the win over westfield was expected because they have been on the backslide also. I really feel that these kids are more hungry for this game after taking the 2nd round exit last year in the cold and rain. I traveled and endured it too so I want it for them just as bad. Also being a SP Alum. COACH JAMES WHO...Go Tigers

I mean yea they lost a couple of games this year but look at who they have and The woodlands just absolutely shut them down
QB - Jacoby Walker (Who is SICK!) he has offers from Nebraska and OKST
WR- Adam Watson (Nasty) another D1 prospect who has an offer from Portalnd St probably talking to even more he was soooo fast and quick with his hands.
WR- Ja-Mes Logan (disgusting) holds 7 D1 offers
WR- Barry Ford who has 2 D1 offers from Utah and Boise State
(all are game breakers and could score at anytime the ball is in their hands)

BTW how are STP's front seven and their o-line if someone could break down their team that could be great thanks

[teXan]

Really is no HFA in HS football. The best team usually wins. The only edge is REFS siding with wealthy schools!

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[LiveSleepEatFootball]

I mean yea they lost a couple of games this year but look at who they have and The woodlands just absolutely shut them down
QB - Jacoby Walker (Who is SICK!) he has offers from Nebraska and OKST
WR- Adam Watson (Nasty) another D1 prospect who has an offer from Portalnd St probably talking to even more he was soooo fast and quick with his hands.
WR- Ja-Mes Logan (disgusting) holds 7 D1 offers
WR- Barry Ford who has 2 D1 offers from Utah and Boise State
(all are game breakers and could score at anytime the ball is in their hands)

BTW how are STP's front seven and their o-line if someone could break down their team that could be great thanks



Front seven if great, The defensive line is mean. Backers fill quick.

[d-train]

Won Yes, Pouneded no. I believe Georetown lost By 1(wind), and CP lost by 6 in a shout out, and RR lost by 4. Great games. Do not doubt 16-5A. SP is reppin the district fine. Thats what district champs do....Just like ever other division, the district champs are in the 2,3,4 seed may have fell.
STONEY POINT POUNDED THE OTHER THREE 16-5A teams!

[d-train]

Front seven if great, The defensive line is mean. Backers fill quick.
If you ain't getting offers from UT, OU or LSU in this area, you are borderline top quality talent per the RECRUITING GURUS and are barely pulling 3 stars if that. Your QB is gonna be on his back and you will have trouble running the ball. 30 stack is a hard defense to block if they have the personnell and speed, which the Tigers do. If you trust the RIVALS and SCOUT.COM folks, then Tech should not be ranked #2, they don't have the talent!

[sphsfootball2009]

Really is no HFA in HS football. The best team usually wins. The only edge is REFS siding with wealthy schools!


Now thats not at all truthful. High School games are unpredictable. look at Lufkin beating The Woodlands. You never know what will happen. The Refs for SP weren't bad but weren't good friday. We put the ball in the endzone like 3 times on a touchdown and they said nope. I was on the sideline at the goalline when that was going on and the Ref across the field was not even paying attention he was talking to the little yard marker guy.

[d-train]

Now thats not at all truthful. High School games are unpredictable. look at Lufkin beating The Woodlands. You never know what will happen. The Refs for SP weren't bad but weren't good friday. We put the ball in the endzone like 3 times on a touchdown and they said nope. I was on the sideline at the goalline when that was going on and the Ref across the field was not even paying attention he was talking to the little yard marker guy.
Did yall play Westlake, Lake Travis or Bowie in Austin this year? REFS are BIASED is regular season games in area. You are not getting area crews in playoff games! 16-5A wasn't a strong district this year! SP crushed a bunch of average teams, but they are pretty good, especially on defense.

[STPFootball2011]

I mean yea they lost a couple of games this year but look at who they have and The woodlands just absolutely shut them down
QB - Jacoby Walker (Who is SICK!) he has offers from Nebraska and OKST
WR- Adam Watson (Nasty) another D1 prospect who has an offer from Portalnd St probably talking to even more he was soooo fast and quick with his hands.
WR- Ja-Mes Logan (disgusting) holds 7 D1 offers
WR- Barry Ford who has 2 D1 offers from Utah and Boise State
(all are game breakers and could score at anytime the ball is in their hands)

its great if you have that talent but if you don't play as a team as some people have said that westfield hasn't this year.

STONEY POINT POUNDED THE OTHER THREE 16-5A teams!
Stony didn't exactly pound all of the other playoff teams besides maybe Cedar Park 38-10. G-town was a very close game that we had to come back to win and Round Rock we played really well and won 28-13 so take what you will from that

[STPFootball2011]

Now thats not at all truthful. High School games are unpredictable. look at Lufkin beating The Woodlands. You never know what will happen. The Refs for SP weren't bad but weren't good friday. We put the ball in the endzone like 3 times on a touchdown and they said nope. I was on the sideline at the goalline when that was going on and the Ref across the field was not even paying attention he was talking to the little yard marker guy.
i dont think we've had a really good ref crew this year. they always make a mistake that can affect the outcome of the game. seems like its been like this across the state this year

[d-train]

its great if you have that talent but if you don't play as a team as some people have said that westfield hasn't this year.


Stony didn't exactly pound all of the other playoff teams besides maybe Cedar Park 38-10. G-town was a very close game that we had to come back to win and Round Rock we played really well and won 28-13 so take what you will from that
EVERY WIN WAS BY DOUBLE DIGITS! That doesn't happen in a tough league! SP was head and shoulders above 16-5A this year! The old 14-5A usually did well either sweeping or winning 2-3 of the games, with 2-3 teams going three rounds. This year was no where near that.

[WoodzDad]

Google Map to the Palace (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=103433957555621013847.00045bd0ea80a928ef84a)

For those who don't arrive by bus

[STPFootball2011]

EVERY WIN WAS BY DOUBLE DIGITS! That doesn't happen in a tough league! SP was head and shoulders above 16-5A this year! The old 14-5A usually did well either sweeping or winning 2-3 of the games, with 2-3 teams going three rounds. This year was no where near that.
that may be true bit if you saw the Gtown game that was probably our hardest game all year and the outcome was in doubt until the 4th quarter

[WoodzDad]

The only edge is REFS siding with wealthy schools!

Bogus:D

It's all about technique. If you look good doing it refs are less likely to call the penalty.

Well coached teams know what refs call and what they don't call.

Then there's just the flat out bad call that everyone gets.

[The Wood]

Really is no HFA in HS football. The best team usually wins. The only edge is REFS siding with wealthy schools!
Not that I perceive TW to be wealthier than RR or Westfield's area, and I have not looked at census data (or care), but the refs at Pridgeon definitely did no favors for TW against Westfield Friday night. They missed a ton of holding calls (I'm sure on both sides).

I can't unarguably agree with your "wealthy schools" position. I think the refs generally do the best they can. They make calls, they miss calls...and I've seen a lot of both for and against TW this year. Some hurt more than others because of field position/time, but in general, the ball bounces both ways.

[d-train]

that may be true bit if you saw the Gtown game that was probably our hardest game all year and the outcome was in doubt until the 4th quarter
No the WACO loss was your hardest game!

[twcpfan1]

Ok. What is HFA?

Also, how'd we know that Stony wasn't the rich school the dude was referring to? :D

[STPFootball2011]

No the WACO loss was your hardest game!
you cant take evaluate our season on the Waco game. to many weird factors with IKe combined with bad luck and a good waco D made us lose that game

[WoodzDad]

Ok. What is HFA?

Home Field Advantage

[The Wood]

Ok. What is HFA?

Also, how'd we know that Stony wasn't the rich school the dude was referring to? :D

HFA = Home Field Advantage.

We didn't. I was simply stating beliefs from MY perspective. They perhaps are the wealthier ones...and I'm cool with that if they are! Maybe Michael Dell's kid is the quarterback. It does not matter. The kids are not playing because they or their parents are rich, poor, black, white, brown, yellow, Jewish, Catholic, Protestant, gay, straight et.al. At least I hope not. They are playing for their own personal reasons...likely to be a part of their team and be around like-minded contemporaries.

But I got your point.

[The Wood]

They are playing for their own personal reasons...


Maybe for Mom!

Or the dance line gals...

Or the Cheerleaders...

Or the right tackle's Mom!:D

[STPFootball2011]

HFA = Home Field Advantage.

We didn't. I was simply stating beliefs from MY perspective. They perhaps are the wealthier ones...and I'm cool with that if they are! Maybe Michael Dell's kid is the quarterback. It does not matter. The kids are not playing because they or their parents are rich, poor, black, white, brown, yellow, Jewish, Catholic, Protestant, gay, straight et.al. At least I hope not. They are playing for their own personal reasons...likely to be a part of their team and be around like-minded contemporaries.

But I got your point.
i wouldnt take anything d-train says serious. he been doing this all year and probably just wants to make stuff up to talk about

[RocklandDragon]

Ok. What is HFA?

Also, how'd we know that Stony wasn't the rich school the dude was referring to? :D

:D

Although, the area around Stony Point isn't Westlake Hills in Austin, it is a nice area. There are nice homes and expansion going around there with a few apartment complexes.

I like going down to Round Rock to visit relatives that live in the SP boundary zone.

:cool:

I'm trying to find a way to go to this game!

I got to!

I haven't followed the Woodlands closely this year. I just know that they are good!

:D

[twcpfan1]

HFA = Home Field Advantage.

We didn't. I was simply stating beliefs from MY perspective. They perhaps are the wealthier ones...and I'm cool with that if they are! Maybe Michael Dell's kid is the quarterback. It does not matter. The kids are not playing because they or their parents are rich, poor, black, white, brown, yellow, Jewish, Catholic, Protestant, gay, straight et.al. At least I hope not. They are playing for their own personal reasons...likely to be a part of their team and be around like-minded contemporaries.

But I got your point.

Actually I wasn't making one. Just another poor attempt at being funny on my part. :D

But thanks for the explanation of the acronym. I really should get into that whole texting business more.

[mcneilmav]

Stony Point can pass, so I wouldn't pay much attention to those numbers from the game last night. I think the wind hurt everyone in that respect. Stony Point has a very good team with tremendous athletic ability.

Their head coach Craig Chessher was North Shore's defensive coordinator in 2003, so he is familiar with The Woodlands. He moved to Stony Point after that season, and he has turned them into a strong program. They were a doormat before he arrived.

Yeah, it just amazes me what Chessher and his staff have done with that program and in relatively short order. Go Stony Point. You're all we (165A) have left.

[SPTigerfan]

Google Map to the Palace (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=103433957555621013847.00045bd0ea80a928ef84a)

For those who don't arrive by bus

And you will park on the South side of the stadium.Thats where your ticket booth is because if you wind up on the wrong side you can't even purchase a ticket...they make you go all the way around to purchase your ticket...

Hope this helps!

[twcpfan1]

And you will park on the South side of the stadium.Thats where your ticket booth is because if you wind up on the wrong side you can't even purchase a ticket...they make you go all the way around to purchase your ticket...

Hope this helps!

Will they charge 8.00 for parking like the McNeil booster club did? Or was it 6.00?

[twcpfan1]

:D

Although, the area around Stony Point isn't Westlake Hills in Austin, it is a nice area. There are nice homes and expansion going around there with a few apartment complexes.

I like going down to Round Rock to visit relatives that live in the SP boundary zone.

:cool:

I'm trying to find a way to go to this game!

I got to!

I haven't followed the Woodlands closely this year. I just know that they are good!

:D

My youngest might be going to UT Austin. I've actually been eyeing that area around Round Rock and Cedar Park as a possible place to move to. I like Cedar Park's proximity to the big fake lake.

[STPFootball2011]

Will they charge 8.00 for parking like the McNeil booster club did? Or was it 6.00?
i dont think we charge anything for parking, didnt even no you could for a high school game

[twcpfan1]

i dont think we charge anything for parking, didnt even no you could for a high school game

They did when SV played TW at the Palace for a week 0 game last year. Pretty sure it was McNeil who hosted the game. The kids who were collecting the money were apologizing at the same time.

I think there are venues in Houston that charge. Pasadena, I think but I can't confirm. Pretty sure Southlake Carroll charges.

[d-train]

HFA = Home Field Advantage.

We didn't. I was simply stating beliefs from MY perspective. They perhaps are the wealthier ones...and I'm cool with that if they are! Maybe Michael Dell's kid is the quarterback. It does not matter. The kids are not playing because they or their parents are rich, poor, black, white, brown, yellow, Jewish, Catholic, Protestant, gay, straight et.al. At least I hope not. They are playing for their own personal reasons...likely to be a part of their team and be around like-minded contemporaries.

But I got your point.
The wealthy school thing is usually regular season. Dell lives in WESTLAKE HILLS!

[d-train]

i wouldnt take anything d-train says serious. he been doing this all year and probably just wants to make stuff up to talk about
I got 25-5A right, I picked Westlake to win district, and I picked them to be the only team to win in the playoffs.

[JackLeg]

Woodlands fans head to Texas Roadhouse before the game at Anderson Mill and 183. Andrea tends bar and she'll buy your first beer if you tell her you're headed to the football game. Great food and peanuts while you wait. Throw the shells on the ground! Its about 5 minutes from the stadium.

[STPFootball2011]

I got 25-5A right, I picked Westlake to win district, and I picked them to be the only team to win in the playoffs.
does that have anything to do with what i said?:confused:

[TWHS10]

what is the name of the stadium?

[STPFootball2011]

what is the name of the stadium?
the official name is the RRISD Athletic Complex but everyone including the newspaper and media call it the Palace

[TWHS10]

the official name is the RRISD Athletic Complex but everyone including the newspaper and media call it the Palace

awesome, thanks!

[mcneilmav]

They did when SV played TW at the Palace for a week 0 game last year. Pretty sure it was McNeil who hosted the game. The kids who were collecting the money were apologizing at the same time.

I think there are venues in Houston that charge. Pasadena, I think but I can't confirm. Pretty sure Southlake Carroll charges.

Guilty. I think the band boosters organized the pay for parking, at least band parents/members were manning the park f/pay. That was a few years back, though, I think. I paid for parking at a Palace event once a few years back. Can't remember what it was, must have been a playoff game, but I know I wasn't too happy. Seems if the Cy folks would have had to pay for parking we'd would probably have seen something here. In any event, hope all the Woodlands folks have a safe voyage and enjoy their visit to little ole RR/Austin metro.

[STPFootball2011]

Guilty. I think the band boosters organized the pay for parking, at least band parents/members were manning the park f/pay. That was a few years back, though, I think. I paid for parking at a Palace event once a few years back. Can't remember what it was, must have been a playoff game, but I know I wasn't too happy. Seems if the Cy folks would have had to pay for parking we'd would probably have seen something here. In any event, hope all the Woodlands folks have a safe voyage and enjoy their visit to little ole RR/Austin metro.
who'd want to pay for parking to watch McNeil?:D

[MOJO_MAGIC]

Really is no HFA in HS football. The best team usually wins. The only edge is REFS siding with wealthy schools!

:confused:

Not that I perceive TW to be wealthier than RR or Westfield's area, and I have not looked at census data (or care), but the refs at Pridgeon definitely did no favors for TW against Westfield Friday night. They missed a ton of holding calls (I'm sure on both sides).

I can't unarguably agree with your "wealthy schools" position. I think the refs generally do the best they can. They make calls, they miss calls...and I've seen a lot of both for and against TW this year. Some hurt more than others because of field position/time, but in general, the ball bounces both ways.

No sense in trying to debate with someone who would even post an absurd comment like that. The "have nots" are always wanting to find an excuse for their failure or lack. Nothing you can say to change that mindset.

[mcneilmav]

who'd want to pay for parking to watch McNeil?:D

Feel better now, friend? :cool:

[thatboycommin]

Woodlands fans head to Texas Roadhouse before the game at Anderson Mill and 183. Andrea tends bar and she'll buy your first beer if you tell her you're headed to the football game. Great food and peanuts while you wait. Throw the shells on the ground! Its about 5 minutes from the stadium.


THANKS FOR THE TIP!!
wish i could be there good lookin though!

[The Wood]

The wealthy school thing is usually regular season. Dell lives in WESTLAKE HILLS!
Well send him as well!

[The Wood]

Feel better now, friend? :cool:Yeah, guys we gotta stop the hate. There are great parents and kids at McNeil, just like at every school.

[The Wood]

:confused:



No sense in trying to debate with someone who would even post an absurd comment like that. The "have nots" are always wanting to find an excuse for their failure or lack. Nothing you can say to change that mindset.I've got a lot in this world...I'm truly blessed. I know there are people out there that don't have what I have and work just as hard as I do. I can't help that. I give what I can, when I can...and it's never enough.

But don't try to beat down a whole class of people...dang, don't even beat down one person just because they have a little, or even a lot more. There are other rewards. And keep banging at your life. Don't give up.

If you don't like your place, change it! Don't wait on someone else to do it for you.

Peace out ya'll...it's playoff time and our boys are in it! And so are we!

And for the record...I'm always a little skeptical of those men in stripes:cool:.

[STPFootball2011]

Yeah, guys we gotta stop the hate. There are great parents and kids at McNeil, just like at every school.
want saying anything personal aganist anybody at Mcneil just commenting on Mcneils football team this year

[Maddog2020]

I don't give a :Censor: about the wealthy, parking, directions or any of that bull:Censor:. What I would like to know from Stony Point fans is:
* Type of offense SP runs
* SP personnel on offensive line
* Type of defense SP runs
* SP personnel on defensive line, linebackers, DBs
* SP special teams
* SP D1 talent
* SP playmakers we should keep an eye on friday night

SP's record is 10-1. We respect your team. If they weren't :Censor: good, we wouldn't be playing you guys.

We will respond with TWHS info back.

LET'S GET IT ON AND TALK FOOTBALL, NOT ALL THAT OTHER :Censor:!

[teXan]

SP's record is 10-1. We respect your team. If they weren't good, we wouldn't be playing you guys.

LET'S GET IT ON AND TALK FOOTBALL!

I believe this is RRSP (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukKVVB-n0qg) from a few weeks ago. Can someone confirm?

[RocklandDragon]

I believe this is RRSP (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukKVVB-n0qg) from a few weeks ago. Can someone confirm?

Looking at that clip, a person would think McNeil roughed up Stony Point. It was of good quality...

Stony Point did win the game, though, 24-14. :D

[TheDuke]

Is this at the same stadium where they won against Arlington Lamar in 2003 ?

[RRSP1]

I believe this is RRSP (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukKVVB-n0qg) from a few weeks ago. Can someone confirm?

Yep, that's Stony Point. It was produced by McNeil and is a good one for everyone to look at. ;) :D

[LiveSleepEatFootball]

I don't give a :Censor: about the wealthy, parking, directions or any of that bull:Censor:. What I would like to know from Stony Point fans is:
* Type of offense SP runs
* SP personnel on offensive line
* Type of defense SP runs
* SP personnel on defensive line, linebackers, DBs
* SP special teams
* SP D1 talent
* SP playmakers we should keep an eye on friday night

SP's record is 10-1. We respect your team. If they weren't :Censor: good, we wouldn't be playing you guys.

We will respond with TWHS info back.

LET'S GET IT ON AND TALK FOOTBALL, NOT ALL THAT OTHER :Censor:!


Come to the game friday and all your questions will be answered. We are not on the top 10 for no reason. I will let you know the defense is stingy and we do have D1 commits.

[LiveSleepEatFootball]

Oh also, why the cursing. This is friendly convo. Sharing opinions, not acting like your the ..... ya kno.

[TheDuke]

Yep, that's Stony Point. It was produced by McNeil and is a good one for everyone to look at. ;) :D

I am assuming they are in the Blue ?

RB's look good, so does the Defense.

[RRSP1]

I am assuming they are in the Blue ?

RB's look good, so does the Defense.

SP is in white in that clip.

[Highlander]

Interesting in knowing the score from the Langham Creek game broken down by quarter...anybody have that info?

[teXan]

Interesting in knowing the score from the Langham Creek game broken down by quarter...anybody have that info?

Box Score (http://www.maxpreps.com/texas/football/stony-point-(round-rock)/langham-creek-(houston,-tx)/boxscore.aspx?ssid=2f36027d-d6f6-4509-aba9-adad5cc85b5e&schoolid=d8af3744-b589-4a12-b5bf-ca8053a8143c&contestid=dd10b7df-095d-46c5-85a0-3ac31635ec47&urpath=,local,stats)

[STPFootball2011]

I am assuming they are in the Blue ?

RB's look good, so does the Defense.
the team in blue is McNeil and all of the plays are all the good plays from Mcneils point of view so take what you will form it

[chop44]

I don't give a :Censor: about the wealthy, parking, directions or any of that bull:Censor:. What I would like to know from Stony Point fans is:
* Type of offense SP runs
* SP personnel on offensive line
* Type of defense SP runs
* SP personnel on defensive line, linebackers, DBs
* SP special teams
* SP D1 talent
* SP playmakers we should keep an eye on friday night

SP's record is 10-1. We respect your team. If they weren't :Censor: good, we wouldn't be playing you guys.

We will respond with TWHS info back.

LET'S GET IT ON AND TALK FOOTBALL, NOT ALL THAT OTHER :Censor:!

I have seen SP play twice this year as a fan. They primarily run their offense from the gun. QB is the real deal as he is big, fast, great arm and terrific leader. Seriously, he is good. They have a big fast RB and above average wide receivers. They mix up the run, pass very well. Their OL is not as big this year as last year's bunch and I feel this is their weakness, if they have one. A couple of their linemen are kind of small and could get pushed around a bit by a physical DL. All in all, they are a very good offense.

Their DL is big and very physical. I understand Wood has a physical OL so it should be worth the price of the ticket to watch these two lines going at it. The rest of there defense is fast with good tacklers. Haven't really seen their secondary tested so not sure how they will hold up. Special teams are above average with good return teams. Can't recall much about their punting or kicking game.

Trust me, you will be impressed with the SP QB, McKissic. Should be an excellent game and I will be there for sure.

[slcdragonfan]

Woodlands Will bring a heavy crowd!

yeah, but will there be a lot of them?:D

[Shamu85]

I don't know why any of you still respond to d-train's obvious attempt at instigation. Irrelevancy is the fear of all instigators.

My personal experience with RRISD stadium is that they charge for parking at playoff games. Every one I have been to there over the past few years (8-10 total), I have been charged $2 or $3 to park. Also, I have always been able to purchase either side ticket at the South ticket booth/gate, and walk to the side where I want to sit.

SP D-line is big and physical. Secondary has speed to run with most, but can be beaten with accurate passing if your QB has time (see D-line comment). Overall D is very tough and probably their strongest aspect.

SP O is potent with gamebreakers at QB, RB, WR and TE. QB McKissic is very strong and usually pretty accurate passer. RB Martin (Baylor commit) is speedy and cuts quickly, but not afraid to go through you, too. #27 WR is very good at getting open, and TE is a hoss that has great hands.

[TWHSDad]

I don't know why any of you still respond to d-train's obvious attempt at instigation. Irrelevancy is the fear of all instigators.

My personal experience with RRISD stadium is that they charge for parking at playoff games. Every one I have been to there over the past few years (8-10 total), I have been charged $2 or $3 to park. Also, I have always been able to purchase either side ticket at the South ticket booth/gate, and walk to the side where I want to sit.

SP D-line is big and physical. Secondary has speed to run with most, but can be beaten with accurate passing if your QB has time (see D-line comment). Overall D is very tough and probably their strongest aspect.

SP O is potent with gamebreakers at QB, RB, WR and TE. QB McKissic is very strong and usually pretty accurate passer. RB Martin (Baylor commit) is speedy and cuts quickly, but not afraid to go through you, too. #27 WR is very good at getting open, and TE is a hoss that has great hands.

Hmmmm who does that remind me of...anyone, anyone...Bueller?

[Robeck09]

I will be making the trip, probably staying the night in either Austin or RR.

I know a lot of people are talking about making the trip and people are already figuring out sleeping arrangments for the night. I expect a decent crowd, and will probably leave school after the pep rally to get there a little early and eat some Pokey-Jo's BBQ (spelling?).

[twcpfan1]

I will be making the trip, probably staying the night in either Austin or RR.

I know a lot of people are talking about making the trip and people are already figuring out sleeping arrangments for the night. I expect a decent crowd, and will probably leave school after the pep rally to get there a little early and eat some Pokey-Jo's BBQ (spelling?).

Stop in Elgin on the way. Good BBQ there at Southside Market and an even better one off the Hwy a little bit. Can't remember the name.

To get some perspective, Round Rock is maybe about an hour more travelling time compared to Lufkin. So for people who decide not to stay the night, they should be home by 2am.

[teXan]

SP D-line is big and physical. Secondary has speed to run with most, but can be beaten with accurate passing if your QB has time (see D-line comment). Overall D is very tough and probably their strongest aspect.

SP O is potent with gamebreakers at QB, RB, WR and TE. QB McKissic is very strong and usually pretty accurate passer. RB Martin (Baylor commit) is speedy and cuts quickly, but not afraid to go through you, too. #27 WR is very good at getting open, and TE is a hoss that has great hands.

Are you talking about SP or TW? :D

Other than the player names and the less-than-stellar O-Line of SP and secondary being beaten, your description matches that of TW. From what I've seen, these teams are so evenly matched that they're almost interchangeable. I'm pretty sure the D is a lock for either team so it's going to come down to who can break out of the other's stranglehold more often.

I find it interesting that both teams had their scoring struggles last Friday by not putting up their big numbers early. However, I think it's very telling that both teams could turn around in the 2nd half (especially in the 4th quarter) and remember how to score.

IS IT FREAKIN' FRIDAY YET?!?!?

[RRSP1]

...
My personal experience with RRISD stadium is that they charge for parking at playoff games. Every one I have been to there over the past few years (8-10 total), I have been charged $2 or $3 to park. Also, I have always been able to purchase either side ticket at the South ticket booth/gate, and walk to the side where I want to sit.


I spoke with the RRISD athletic office earlier today:

No parking fee (because a RRISD team is using the facility)
$8 tickets at the gate (everyone - students & adults)
Gates open at 6:00 pm; No reserved seating

The parking fee usually applies to non-RRISD who wish to use the stadium for their PO games.

[Shamu85]

Stop in Elgin on the way. Good BBQ there at Southside Market and an even better one off the Hwy a little bit. Can't remember the name.

To get some perspective, Round Rock is maybe about an hour more travelling time compared to Lufkin. So for people who decide not to stay the night, they should be home by 2am.

Actually, I think Meyer's is better than Southside. Meyer's is on the highway a liitle East of Southside. They are both better than Poke-Jo's though. Smokey Mo's in RR @ I-35 & Louis Henna (shopping ctr with Conn's) is much better than Poke-Jo's.

Post meal in Elgin, just down the road to the 130 Toll Road to the Hwy 45 Toll Rd west, exit Parmer Lane north, and the stadium is right there on the left.

I agree that these two teams are very evenly matched, and it should be a whale of a game. Nice stadium, but still a HS venue. I like that better than Kyle Field where we played last weekend. The HS feel is how it should be. I am hoping to make this one to support the last remaining 16-5A team.

[Shamu85]

I spoke with the RRISD athletic office earlier today:

No parking fee (because a RRISD team is using the facility)
$8 tickets at the gate (everyone - students & adults)
Gates open at 6:00 pm; No reserved seating

The parking fee usually applies to non-RRISD who wish to use the stadium for their PO games.

Forgot about the RRISD thing. Thanks for checking RRSP1. I do remember at last year's RR-A&M Consol game they didn't charge and the attendant told me that was why. I wonder if I could get an adult ticket for $7 at one of the RR schools?

[RRSP1]

Forgot about the RRISD thing. Thanks for checking RRSP1. I do remember at last year's RR-A&M Consol game they didn't charge and the attendant told me that was why. I wonder if I could get an adult ticket for $7 at one of the RR schools?

You can, but it'll probably cost you a buck's worth of gas to just drive down from Georgetown. :)

Beyond that, the $7 tickets will be available only at Stony Point, only during lunch periods (12:15 to 2:30), and only on Thursday & Friday. Still, you're welcome to stop by. You could even wear your Eagles t-shirt, and I'm sure nobody will mind. :D

[Shamu85]

You can, but it'll probably cost you a buck's worth of gas to just drive down from Georgetown. :)

Beyond that, the $7 tickets will be available only at Stony Point, only during lunch periods (12:15 to 2:30), and only on Thursday & Friday. Still, you're welcome to stop by. You could even wear your Eagles t-shirt, and I'm sure nobody will mind. :D

So, they are restricting pregame sales to SPHS? Bummer.It's actually not too far out of my way home since I work in RR. Oh well, another $1 into the RRISD coffers I suppose. I'm still ahead since I figured on a $2 parking fee. :D

[RRSP1]

So, they are restricting pregame sales to SPHS? Bummer.It's actually not too far out of my way home since I work in RR. Oh well, another $1 into the RRISD coffers I suppose. I'm still ahead since I figured on a $2 parking fee. :D

If we think about it, it'd probably irk the Dragon, Maverick, and Warrior front office folks if they were told to sell Tiger playoff tickets... :D

[teXan]

After putting more thought (pseudo analysis) into this game, I have TWHS coming out on top by 3 points (24-21). The Massey Match Up has TWHS winning by 2 points (23 - 21).

Here are some of the factors that come into play:

Rushing Yards Per Game
The Woodlands - 193.9
Stony Point - 223.5

Passing Yards Per Game
The Woodlands - 187.3
Stony Point - 151.4

Total Yards Per Game
The Woodlands - 381.2
Stony Point - 374.9

Sacks Per Game
The Woodlands - 2.1
Stony Point - 1.8

Points Per Game
The Woodlands - 38.5
Stony Point - 35.5

No matter how you look at it, this is going to be a very exciting game. :eek:

I'll add to this, however, that if one of these teams completely blows out the other...look for that team to go all the way.

[SP Tiger Backer]

I won't be able to sit down the entire game :eek:

[platnmram]

SP team is loaded with speed, speed, speed. They are very athletic and have playmakers at their skill positions. There is D1 talent on both sides of the ball. SP defense IMO is one of the best in the state and they are fast, aggressive, and very good tacklers. SP offense is quick and explosive.

Offense key players-Mckissic, Martin, Williams, Shillow

Defense key players-Mims, Wade, Armstrong, Nweke
Lindley, Godfrey, Fulgencio
Browder, Dozier, White

[MOJO_MAGIC]

SP team is loaded with speed, speed, speed. They are very athletic and have playmakers at their skill positions. There is D1 talent on both sides of the ball. SP defense IMO is one of the best in the state and they are fast, aggressive, and very good tacklers. SP offense is quick and explosive.


Sounds like a spitting image of TW. There's a reason they only gave up 8 points per game, and shut out a team "full of D1 talent". This game is gonna be good! Turnovers and special teams will play heavily to deciding the winner.

[STPFootball2011]

SP team is loaded with speed, speed, speed. They are very athletic and have playmakers at their skill positions. There is D1 talent on both sides of the ball. SP defense IMO is one of the best in the state and they are fast, aggressive, and very good tacklers. SP offense is quick and explosive.

Offense key players-Mckissic, Martin, Williams, Shillow

Defense key players-Mims, Wade, Armstrong, Nweke
Lindley, Godfrey, Fulgencio
Browder, Dozier, White
so basically the entire defense?:D

[JackLeg]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9t5rNV18KFA

Looks a lot like the SP video posted by McNeil.

[bigtexx]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9t5rNV18KFA

Looks a lot like the SP video posted by McNeil.



that was not from this year. That woodlands team went 3-8

this years team is 9-1

[platnmram]

Originally Posted by Maddog2020 http://www.5atexasfootball.com/forum/vB/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.5atexasfootball.com/forum/vB/showthread.php?p=994899#post994899)
I don't give a :Censor: about the wealthy, parking, directions or any of that bull:Censor:. What I would like to know from Stony Point fans is:
* Type of offense SP runs
* SP personnel on offensive line
* Type of defense SP runs
* SP personnel on defensive line, linebackers, DBs
* SP special teams
* SP D1 talent
* SP playmakers we should keep an eye on friday night

SP's record is 10-1. We respect your team. If they weren't :Censor: good, we wouldn't be playing you guys.

We will respond with TWHS info back.

LET'S GET IT ON AND TALK FOOTBALL, NOT ALL THAT OTHER :Censor:!


Where is the response back with TWHS info.

The only info that has been given is:

Sounds like a spitting image of TW. There's a reason they only gave up 8 points per game, and shut out a team "full of D1 talent". This game is gonna be good! Turnovers and special teams will play heavily to deciding the winner.

[teXan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9t5rNV18KFA

Looks a lot like the SP video posted by McNeil.

I found a more recent video of TW (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPfA-kYBMHs).

MaxPreps also has a match up analysis (http://www.maxpreps.com/texas/football/the-woodlands/stony-point-(round-rock,-tx)/pregame.aspx?ssid=2f36027d-d6f6-4509-aba9-adad5cc85b5e&contestid=43ba637f-19f1-4eb7-9388-be93deb9ee67&urpath=,local,stats).

[teXan]

Where is the response back with TWHS info.The only info that has been given is:
Sounds like a spitting image of TW. There's a reason they only gave up 8 points per game, and shut out a team "full of D1 talent". This game is gonna be good! Turnovers and special teams will play heavily to deciding the winner.

No problem. Here you geaux:

Offense
QB: Andy McCloud (D1 commit - UTEP) - He's an accurate passer that makes good decisions and will burn you for 40+ yards if you give him an opening.

QB/WR: Ryan Eastman - At WR, he can go up over most defenders so don't put shorty on him. At QB, he can pound in the keeper for 5+ yards when he wants to...or he can chunk it 60 yards off his back foot. Pick your poison.

RB: Daniel Lasco - If he finds a lane or gets to the outside...lights out. You don't have anyone that can catch him. Period.

WR's: Randy Knust, Logan Rowe, Ryan Eastman, Rob Irvin, Alex Tweedy, Matt Pettit - Take your pick. They're all fast. Very fast. If the ball is near their fingers, it's a catch. I've watched a lot of film and I've only seen one instance on a go route when they're inside the DB. Seriously.

OL: Chad Lindsay, Brad Roberge, Sean Finney, John Norton, Will Harvey - That's well over 1,000 pounds of D1 talent protecting our QB. Chad is the anchor of that line and he'll make anyone on the d-line look stupid. Lufkin had to move McFarland away from him to make him effective.

Defense
DL: Cameron Knight, Loren Baker, Cody Salinas, John Michael Cochran, David Flook - All very fast with an eye for the ball. Cameron and John Michael are explosive. Loren and Cody are all-around defense minded players. They're all just solid up front. If you're O-line isn't one of the best in the state, you're going to have trouble getting up the middle.

S's: Aaron Charbonnet, Chase Maires - Both are very quick. Chase is one of those hurty players that will sacrifice his own body to make the big hit. If you don't know where he is when you make the catch, you can pretty much bet that means he's flying at you full speed.

DB's: Logan Rowe, Nick Adamo, Ryan Clapsaddle, Ryan Cusimano - These guys are the best at what they do. If you do a little searching on this website, you'll see Logan's name come up as one of the best athletes in the state. Nick is the best open field tackler I've ever seen...nothing gets past him. Both Ryans are big play makers -- Clapsaddle is Mr. Pick and Cusimano is another hurty player like Chase Maires.

LB's: Robert Bouthilet, Colin Renton (D1 commit - Navy), Nick Crewe, James Warren, Clay Latimer - They're all very, very quick and very, very smart. Robert is the tackle king of the team...I believe he has over 70 tackles this season. Colin is a hurty player, too. As a state-ranked powerlifter, he's solid as a rock and mean as a bull.

My apologies if I missed anyone? That brain dump was purely from memory and I haven't had my coffee yet.

[TheDuke]

From watching this video, we need some work on SPECIAL TEAMS !:eek:



I found a more recent video of TW (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPfA-kYBMHs).

[teXan]

SP team is loaded with speed, speed, speed. They are very athletic and have playmakers at their skill positions. There is D1 talent on both sides of the ball. SP defense IMO is one of the best in the state and they are fast, aggressive, and very good tacklers. SP offense is quick and explosive.

Offense key players-Mckissic, Martin, Williams, Shillow

Defense key players-Mims, Wade, Armstrong, Nweke
Lindley, Godfrey, Fulgencio
Browder, Dozier, White

That's a good thing to have one of the best defenses in the state. I wonder who has the best defense in the state? :rolleyes:

[teXan]

From watching this video, we need some work on SPECIAL TEAMS !:eek:

Suprisingly, not really. Allow me to explain.

Although you can't really tell from the film, we don't have our best guys in on kickoff. When it comes right down to it, the only thing that needs to happen is a personnel change. That's IF it becomes a real issue. So far, even after giving up the big yards on kickoff, our defense is able to shut it down before anything big happens.

If we move deeper in the playoffs, I'd like to see some personnel changes there. Teams near the end of this journey will know what to do with good field position better than what we've seen so far.

[platnmram]

Now that it seems both sides think that they have D1 talent and one of the best defenses in the state. It seems that speed comes up a lot. I pose the ? What do you consider speed for TWHS.

[TheDuke]

Now that it seems both sides think that they have D1 talent and one of the best defenses in the state. It seems that speed comes up a lot. I pose the ? What do you consider speed for TWHS.

10 kids that run under a 4.4 Forty time ?

[teXan]

Now that it seems both sides think that they have D1 talent and one of the best defenses in the state. It seems that speed comes up a lot. I pose the ? What do you consider speed for TWHS.

I'm not sure who has committed to a D1 program for RRSP, but know of 2 for sure that have committed for TWHS -- Andy McCloud and Colin Renton.

Who are the for sure commits for RRSP? I'm not talking looks and possible offers...I mean real offers or commits.

[platnmram]

That must be everyone starting except your D and O lineman. Give me some realistic times on your starting players.

Example:
2008 National underclassman combine

Steven Williams:RB Stony Point High School
Combine highlights:Williams was named the MVP as well as the fastest man. Williams 5'8 168 had a 35 inch vertical, 9'5 broad jump, ran a speedy 4.38 shuttle, and 4.30 forty.

Need more I can provide.

Glasco Martin and Tevin Mims D1 commits

[KT2000]

I'm not sure who has committed to a D1 program for RRSP, but know of 2 for sure that have committed for TWHS -- Andy McCloud and Colin Renton.

Who are the for sure commits for RRSP? I'm not talking looks and possible offers...I mean real offers or commits.

I don't know about commits, but they have several who WILL sign for major programs next February (and in the coming years).

Glasco Martin, one of their RBs, is committed to Baylor. He is a very good athlete.

Stephen Williams, a sophomore RB/WR, will be a D1 recruit as a senior. Junior TE Gerard Shillow is another D1.

Senior QB Nyk McKissic will sign D1 as will senior DE Tevin Mims. DBs Kenny Browder and Jullian Dozier are also solid bets to sign D1.

Dozier and Williams have both been timed sub 4.4.

Funny story, I watched Martin, Williams and Lasco trade turns doing the "Race Reggie" 40 yard dash side event in College Station. They were easily the three fastest I watched run.

[Jayhawker]

The Waco game was the Ike weekend. Wind was a factor; Waco kicker nailed a 63 yard field goal. Also the band and drill team's buses were confiscated by the government to evacuate Ike victims. As a drill team parent also, we like to remind our coach that the only game we lost was when the band and Tiger Dancers weren't there!

this needs to go under this thread: http://www.5atexasfootball.com/forum/vB/showthread.php?t=40582

[trap43xx]

Having seen both teams play, I can see this as close unless RRSP makes a mistake. TW has a good defense, no doubt but SP can score at will. SP by 20.

[teXan]

That must be everyone starting except your D and O lineman. Give me some realistic times on your starting players.

Example:
2008 National underclassman combine

Steven Williams:RB Stony Point High School
Combine highlights:Williams was named the MVP as well as the fastest man. Williams 5'8 168 had a 35 inch vertical, 9'5 broad jump, ran a speedy 4.38 shuttle, and 4.30 forty.

Need more I can provide.

Glasco Martin and Tevin Mims D1 commits

http://www.ktrainstation.net/2008/09/01/preview-the-woodlands-highlanders/

[TheDuke]

I was Joking. Everyone except the Line is pretty fast. RB, WR, DB's are REAL fast.


That must be everyone starting except your D and O lineman. Give me some realistic times on your starting players.

Example:
2008 National underclassman combine

Steven Williams:RB Stony Point High School
Combine highlights:Williams was named the MVP as well as the fastest man. Williams 5'8 168 had a 35 inch vertical, 9'5 broad jump, ran a speedy 4.38 shuttle, and 4.30 forty.

Need more I can provide.

Glasco Martin and Tevin Mims D1 commits

[platnmram]

Did I miss something. The ? was about your team speed.

Example:

The Fastest Man Award went to sophomore CB Julian Dozier of Stony Point High School in Texas. Dozier, 5-foot-7 and 160-pounds, ran a 4.32 40, which was a Combine record. Aside from the blistering 40 time, Dozier also had 21 reps on 150-pounds, a 9’5” broad, and 31.5-inch vertical.

[WoodzDad]

Did I miss something. The ? was about your team speed.

Example:

The Fastest Man Award went to sophomore CB Julian Dozier of Stony Point High School in Texas. Dozier, 5-foot-7 and 160-pounds, ran a 4.32 40, which was a Combine record. Aside from the blistering 40 time, Dozier also had 21 reps on 150-pounds, a 9’5” broad, and 31.5-inch vertical.

Cool - Lasco won district in the 100 as a freshman with 10.99, but it doesn't mean much on the football field.

[TheDuke]

Lasko has to be the fastest. Not that ANY of that stuff matters anyway. This is will be an awesome game no matter what.

Did I miss something. The ? was about your team speed.

Example:

The Fastest Man Award went to sophomore CB Julian Dozier of Stony Point High School in Texas. Dozier, 5-foot-7 and 160-pounds, ran a 4.32 40, which was a Combine record. Aside from the blistering 40 time, Dozier also had 21 reps on 150-pounds, a 9’5” broad, and 31.5-inch vertical.

[teXan]

Did I miss something. The ? was about your team speed.

Example:

The Fastest Man Award went to sophomore CB Julian Dozier of Stony Point High School in Texas. Dozier, 5-foot-7 and 160-pounds, ran a 4.32 40, which was a Combine record. Aside from the blistering 40 time, Dozier also had 21 reps on 150-pounds, a 9’5” broad, and 31.5-inch vertical.

Combine stats, huh? Those don't always translate into football stats but I'm sure we can come up with something. I'll do some research and try to have something posted by this evening.

[WoodzDad]

Having seen both teams play, I can see this as close unless RRSP makes a mistake. TW has a good defense, no doubt but SP can score at will. SP by 20.

Woodlands
PPG: 36.1 - 34
PAPG: 8.1 - 1
Margin 28.0 - 7

Stony Point
PPG: 36.4 - 33
PAPG: 13.4 - 21
Margin: 23.0 - 13

I'm glad you've seen them both play.

[TheDuke]

LOVE THIS MATCHUP !


http://www.highlanderfootball.net/playoffs/2008round2.htm

[platnmram]

Speed has been the common theme on this post along with the best defenses. I just wanted to know what did you consider speed? Speed does mean a lot on the football field. Last I checked a 4.8 d lineman chances of running down a back is much better than a 5.5 d lineman. Of course combining that with good tackling and strength.

[teXan]

Having seen both teams play, I can see this as close unless RRSP makes a mistake. TW has a good defense, no doubt but SP can score at will. SP by 20.

Since when is a 20 point victory close? Just FYI, TW hasn't given up 20 points to any team this season.

[teXan]

Speed has been the common theme on this post along with the best defenses. I just wanted to know what did you consider speed? Speed does mean a lot on the football field. Last I checked a 4.8 d lineman chances of running down a back is much better than a 5.5 d lineman. Of course combining that with good tackling and strength.

If you don't mind, please use the "Quote" button instead of the "Post Reply" button to create your messages that reference your reply to someone. It's sometimes difficult to follow your message references when you don't include the original message. Thanks...

[platnmram]

Woodlands
PPG: 36.1 - 34
PAPG: 8.1 - 1
Margin 28.0 - 7

Stony Point
PPG: 36.4 - 33
PAPG: 13.4 - 21
Margin: 23.0 - 13

Looking at these stats you have to factor in that our second team played 1/2 the 3rd quarter and the entire 4th quarter of 3/4 of our games. Junk points

[Shamu85]

I found a more recent video of TW (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPfA-kYBMHs).

MaxPreps also has a match up analysis (http://www.maxpreps.com/texas/football/the-woodlands/stony-point-(round-rock,-tx)/pregame.aspx?ssid=2f36027d-d6f6-4509-aba9-adad5cc85b5e&contestid=43ba637f-19f1-4eb7-9388-be93deb9ee67&urpath=,local,stats).

In the MaxPreps matchup analysis, it shows TW as averaging 72 tackles per game. Is that right? TW opponents run an average of 72 plays per game? That is a huge amount of plays. If so, this could be something to watch if the defense is on the field that long. While I would concede that TW defense is good, it doesn't appear that their O has faced as good a D as SP this year so keeping their own D off the field will be more of a challenge. I guess they are doing something right, though, only allowing 8 points a game this season.

Either way, this ought to be one of the best games this week along with, of course, Trinity-Plano and North Shore-Hightower.

[slcdragonfan]

Did I miss something. The ? was about your team speed.

Example:

The Fastest Man Award went to sophomore CB Julian Dozier of Stony Point High School in Texas. Dozier, 5-foot-7 and 160-pounds, ran a 4.32 40, which was a Combine record. Aside from the blistering 40 time, Dozier also had 21 reps on 150-pounds, a 9’5” broad, and 31.5-inch vertical.

In that case, he is one of the fasted people in the country and I hope hee is running track because he can probably qualify for the olympics!:notworthy

[Jayhawker]

Having seen both teams play, I can see this as close unless RRSP makes a mistake. TW has a good defense, no doubt but SP can score at will. SP by 20.

.....are you for real? :confused: SP by 20? :rolleyes:

[TWHSDad]

Woodlands
PPG: 36.1 - 34
PAPG: 8.1 - 1
Margin 28.0 - 7

Stony Point
PPG: 36.4 - 33
PAPG: 13.4 - 21
Margin: 23.0 - 13

Looking at these stats you have to factor in that our second team played 1/2 the 3rd quarter and the entire 4th quarter of 3/4 of our games. Junk points

That would be the same for TWHS for all the games the starters were pulled prior to the end, sometimes at halftime.

[teXan]

Woodlands
PPG: 36.1 - 34
PAPG: 8.1 - 1
Margin 28.0 - 7

Stony Point
PPG: 36.4 - 33
PAPG: 13.4 - 21
Margin: 23.0 - 13

Looking at these stats you have to factor in that our second team played 1/2 the 3rd quarter and the entire 4th quarter of 3/4 of our games. Junk points

Same with TW. It's a wash.

[teXan]

in that case, he is one of the fasted people in the country and i hope hee is running track because he can probably qualify for the olympics!:notworthy

nm

[teXan]

In the MaxPreps matchup analysis, it shows TW as averaging 72 tackles per game. Is that right? TW opponents run an average of 72 plays per game? That is a huge amount of plays. If so, this could be something to watch if the defense is on the field that long. While I would concede that TW defense is good, it doesn't appear that their O has faced as good a D as SP this year so keeping their own D off the field will be more of a challenge. I guess they are doing something right, though, only allowing 8 points a game this season.

Either way, this ought to be one of the best games this week along with, of course, Trinity-Plano and North Shore-Hightower.

That's a combined D and ST tackle stat.

[platnmram]

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in that case, he is one of the fasted people in the country and i hope hee is running track because he can probably qualify for the olympics!:notworthy

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He does run track.

[teXan]

I don't know about commits, but they have several who WILL sign for major programs next February (and in the coming years).

Glasco Martin, one of their RBs, is committed to Baylor. He is a very good athlete.

Stephen Williams, a sophomore RB/WR, will be a D1 recruit as a senior. Junior TE Gerard Shillow is another D1.

Senior QB Nyk McKissic will sign D1 as will senior DE Tevin Mims. DBs Kenny Browder and Jullian Dozier are also solid bets to sign D1.

Dozier and Williams have both been timed sub 4.4.

Funny story, I watched Martin, Williams and Lasco trade turns doing the "Race Reggie" 40 yard dash side event in College Station. They were easily the three fastest I watched run.

So, in response to my question, Glasco Martin.

[Shamu85]

That's a combined D and ST tackle stat.

Still a lot of plays.

[Fleeman93]

Hey KT can we expect SP's defense to be better than Lufkin's defense?

[unbiasedobserver]

In the MaxPreps matchup analysis, it shows TW as averaging 72 tackles per game. Is that right? TW opponents run an average of 72 plays per game? That is a huge amount of plays. If so, this could be something to watch if the defense is on the field that long. While I would concede that TW defense is good, it doesn't appear that their O has faced as good a D as SP this year so keeping their own D off the field will be more of a challenge. I guess they are doing something right, though, only allowing 8 points a game this season.

Either way, this ought to be one of the best games this week along with, of course, Trinity-Plano and North Shore-Hightower.

The Woods faced the Lufkin D which I would guess is at least the equal of SPRR's. In fact really I think this game will come down to how well the Woods Oline can handle the SP DLine. LufKins dominated the LOS stuffed Lasco and harrassed McCloud all day. If SP can do that they win. If McCloud has time to throw the Woods wins.
IMHO that will be deciding factor. I knnow SP will get thier points, but the Woods will score with them if they can handle the Dline.

[d-train]

Hey KT can we expect SP's defense to be better than Lufkin's defense?
Thye both lost to 4A schools right, Waco and Longview?

[LPack007]

Thye both lost to 4A schools right, Waco and Longview?

Yes, but what does that have to do with anything?

but whatever, good luck Woods! :cool:

[WoodzDad]

Did I miss something. The ? was about your team speed.

Example:

The Fastest Man Award went to sophomore CB Julian Dozier of Stony Point High School in Texas. Dozier, 5-foot-7 and 160-pounds, ran a 4.32 40, which was a Combine record. Aside from the blistering 40 time, Dozier also had 21 reps on 150-pounds, a 9’5” broad, and 31.5-inch vertical.

Funny in that the Combine you are quoting Colin Renton was Overall MVP.:notworthy

QB COLIN RENTON ESTABLISHES HIMSELF AS A FUTURE STAR.

SOUTHWEST 2 FIRST SESSION, JUNE 1, 2007, LAKE TRAVIS HS, AUSTIN, TX

The National Underclassmen Combine made a return trip to Texas recently, this time hitting up the Austin area. This was also the first opportunity for the Combine to take it’s stage under the lights. Leading the way in the first session was Overall MVP sophomore QB Colin Renton of The Woodlands High School in Texas. Renton, 5-foot-11 and 190-pounds, showed an impressive combination of athleticism, decision making, and ball delivery. He also had a 30.5-inch vertical, 9’7” broad, 4.63 40, 4.68 shuttle, and did 25 reps on 150-pounds.

http://www.nationalunderclassmen.com/austinresults.htm

[Fleeman93]

Thye both lost to 4A schools right, Waco and Longview?


Sure I will go with that but then again Longview is MUCH better than Waco right?

[KT2000]

Hey KT can we expect SP's defense to be better than Lufkin's defense?

I haven't seen either one in person, so I can't say for sure, but I would say doubtful to your question. Aside from North Shore, I don't know that Lufkin's D has any equals...let alone one that is better. North Shore and The Woodlands have the best two defenses I have personally seen this year. I will be in Irving all day Saturday and it will be interesting to compare those teams with what I have seen here.

What I can tell you is Stony Point will be similar in mentality to Lufkin/North Shore. Coach Chessher comes from a strong defensive background, and he coached under one of the best defensive minds there is in Coach Aymond. If his Stony Point unit resembles anything close to the units he had at North Shore, they will be fast and they will be intense.

[teXan]

Funny in that the Combine you are quoting Colin Renton was Overall MVP.:notworthy

QB COLIN RENTON ESTABLISHES HIMSELF AS A FUTURE STAR.

SOUTHWEST 2 FIRST SESSION, JUNE 1, 2007, LAKE TRAVIS HS, AUSTIN, TX

The National Underclassmen Combine made a return trip to Texas recently, this time hitting up the Austin area. This was also the first opportunity for the Combine to take it’s stage under the lights. Leading the way in the first session was Overall MVP sophomore QB Colin Renton of The Woodlands High School in Texas. Renton, 5-foot-11 and 190-pounds, showed an impressive combination of athleticism, decision making, and ball delivery. He also had a 30.5-inch vertical, 9’7” broad, 4.63 40, 4.68 shuttle, and did 25 reps on 150-pounds.

http://www.nationalunderclassmen.com/austinresults.htm


Now that IS funny.

[MOJO_MAGIC]

This is such a riot:D...........reading all these posts about how fast he is and how much of a bad :Censor: he is.........who runs the fastest 40 in the world, and whose Defense is best..........

The teams that beat both TW and SP this year mean absolutely nothing at this point. I'm sure the Patriots would have loved to decide last years Super Bowl based on the previous 16 games. OOPS!

In the end, anything can happen when a bunch of 16,17, and 18 year old kids get on a football field. I'm looking forward to this game more than any since I was in high school, and in the end, I think it will be fair to say that the best team won, whoever that may be.

[teXan]

Still a lot of plays.

It's a good strategy. Keep their O on the field but don't let them score. By the end of the game, they're too tired to score.

Now there's a stat I'd like to see: Plays to Scores Ratio. What's the average number of plays it takes to score for each team?

[teXan]

Uh oh! I see some Lufkin fans have joined the fray. Since I've got them both ignored already, I can't read what they said. Is it any good?

[teXan]

In the end, anything can happen when a bunch of 16,17, and 18 year old kids get on a football field. I'm looking forward to this game more than any since I was in high school, and in the end, I think it will be fair to say that the best team won, whoever that may be.

Well said. And, as long as that team is The Woodlands, you would be correct. Otherwise, I'm sure it would be because of the refs. :)

[Jayhawker]

Still a lot of plays.

How reliable is the stat on theat site (Maxpreps)? I know I put in the Klein Oak/Cy Creek match up and they showed no D stats for Creek -- gotta make you wonder if those stats are very accurate:rolleyes:.

[Jayhawker]

That's a combined D and ST tackle stat.

Seems out of whack - I doubt that any of TWHS opponents had a chance to run 60+ plus plays a game -- which is what you would need to do to get anywhere near that 72 mark.

[teXan]

How reliable is the stat on theat site (Maxpreps)? I know I put in the Klein Oak/Cy Creek match up and they showed no D stats for Creek -- gotta make you wonder if those stats are very accurate:rolleyes:.

That info appears to be accumulated from the Highlander website (http://www.highlanderfootball.net).

[teXan]

In the MaxPreps matchup analysis, it shows TW as averaging 72 tackles per game. Is that right? TW opponents run an average of 72 plays per game? That is a huge amount of plays. If so, this could be something to watch if the defense is on the field that long. While I would concede that TW defense is good, it doesn't appear that their O has faced as good a D as SP this year so keeping their own D off the field will be more of a challenge. I guess they are doing something right, though, only allowing 8 points a game this season.

Either way, this ought to be one of the best games this week along with, of course, Trinity-Plano and North Shore-Hightower.

I just double checked. That 72 is combined defense and special teams. The defense-only tackles is 61.5 per game.

[teXan]

Seems out of whack - I doubt that any of TWHS opponents had a chance to run 60+ plus plays a game -- which is what you would need to do to get anywhere near that 72 mark.

I wish I knew what to tell you. I'm just totalling up the numbers and dividing by the number of games.

[PantherFan2002]

Uh oh! I see some Lufkin fans have joined the fray. Since I've got them both ignored already, I can't read what they said. Is it any good?

The Woodz have lufkin's support. Represent the district well.

[Shamu85]

I just double checked. That 72 is combined defense and special teams. The defense-only tackles is 58 per game.

So, that would mean TW is averaging 14 KO's & punts combined per game? I think that stat has to be wrong. I can't imagine a defense that is giving up an average of 8 points per game is having 58 plays run against them every game. That's a lot of plays without giving up points or yards. Kind of hard for an offense to keep the ball if they don't get first downs. And the offense is not scoring that many points to have enough KO's to cover the other 14 plays. Gotta be a mistake.

[teXan]

So, that would mean TW is averaging 14 KO's & punts combined per game? I think that stat has to be wrong. I can't imagine a defense that is giving up an average of 8 points per game is having 58 plays run against them every game. That's a lot of plays without giving up points or yards. Kind of hard for an offense to keep the ball if they don't get first downs. And the offense is not scoring that many points to have enough KO's to cover the other 14 plays. Gotta be a mistake.

Fine. You guys do the math yourselves: http://www.highlanderfootball.net/history/2008season/2008stats_def.pdf

[Jayhawker]

That info appears to be accumulated from the Highlander website (http://www.highlanderfootball.net).

They counted assisted tackles as part of TOTAL tackles -- that's why the number is skewed.

[teXan]

The Woodz have lufkin's support. Represent the district well.

Thanks, PantherFan. I don't have all the Lufkin folks blocked. Right now, just LPack007 and d-train to try and limit the insanity.

[teXan]

They counted assisted tackles as part of TOTAL tackles -- that's why the number is skewed.

So unless the tackle was unassisted, it wasn't a tackle? Interesting.

[PantherFan2002]

lol not much insanity any more. District is over and there is nothing but support for the district.

[Shamu85]

So unless the tackle was unassisted, it wasn't a tackle? Interesting.

No, but if it's assisted, it's obviously counted more than once in the stats because the "assistor" has to get credit in their assisted tackle number as well.

[teXan]

No, but if it's assisted, it's obviously counted more than once in the stats because the "assistor" has to get credit in their assisted tackle number as well.

Ok, so if two players are counted on the 222 assisted tackles, that's 111 tackles. Add that to the 393 unassisted tackles and you get 504 total tackles. Over 10 games, thats an average of 50.4 tackles per game.

Everybody satisfied with that?

[teXan]

lol not much insanity any more. District is over and there is nothing but support for the district.

I blocked LPack007 for district-related insanity. I blocked d-train for his class warfare comments.

[Jayhawker]

Ok, so if two players are counted on the 222 assisted tackles, that's 111 tackles. Add that to the 393 unassisted tackles and you get 504 total tackles. Over 10 games, thats an average of 50.4 tackles per game.

Everybody satisfied with that?

..maybe?..however it is possible for more then 2 players to get an assist on a play.

[teXan]

..maybe?..however it is possible for more then 2 players to get an assist on a play.

C'mon, daywalker, er, jayhawker. Quit stirring the pot. :) I believe the TW coaches only count the first two in on the tackle.

I just got off the phone with MaxPreps. For all teams, they take the per player totals of assisted plus unassisted plus special teams tackles, add them up and divide by the number of games to come up with their number. Right or wrong, it's consistent and, therefore, comparable.

They're going to verify that calculation and let me know. If it's wrong, they'll update the page. Otherwise, it stays as is.

[TWHSDad]

..maybe?..however it is possible for more then 2 players to get an assist on a play.

Absolutely correct and without the actual game stats to separate the assists down to a single tackle, you have to assume his latest ~50/game is about right (give or take a .1)

Another interesting stat would be starting field position both getting and giving (where the opponent starts). I have a feeling field position may be a critical factor along with error free ball (turnovers/penalties).

[Shamu85]

C'mon, daywalker, er, jayhawker. Quit stirring the pot. :) I believe the TW coaches only count the first two in on the tackle.

I just got off the phone with MaxPreps. For all teams, they take the per player totals of assisted plus unassisted plus special teams tackles, add them up and divide by the number of games to come up with their number. Right or wrong, it's consistent and, therefore, comparable.

They're going to verify that calculation and let me know. If it's wrong, they'll update the page. Otherwise, it stays as is.

Ok, so in the validated, comparable stat, TW D is on the field an average of 25 more plays than the SP D, give or take a few due to scoring plays when there is not a tackle.

BTW, I am not sure how anyone, at least statistically, can say that Lufkin's D is as good or better than SP's. They gave up 45 in one game as well as 20 five other times. I don't care who you are playing, giving up 45 points is not the sign of a dominating defense. SP has given up 20 points only once this season and Georgetown played well beyond their capabilities that game.

[teXan]

Ok, so in the validated, comparable stat, TW D is on the field an average of 25 more plays than the SP D, give or take a few due to scoring plays when there is not a tackle.

BTW, I am not sure how anyone, at least statistically, can say that Lufkin's D is as good or better than SP's. They gave up 45 in one game as well as 20 five other times. I don't care who you are playing, giving up 45 points is not the sign of a dominating defense. SP has given up 20 points only once this season and Georgetown played well beyond their capabilities that game.

When I asked about SP's tackle count, I was told that MaxPreps isn't given a ST tackle count. Therefore, although the calculation is the same, the variable value is 0. Take ST out of the equation for TW and it's 61.8 to 47.3. Just because other teams stay on the field for a while doesn't mean that we allow them to score.

I think you'll like this analogy, Shamu -- Think of it like a killer whale playing with a baby seal before he eats it. Just when the baby seal thinks its going to get away...CHOMP!!! Ergo, just when a team thinks they're going to score after having a good drive against TW...STOMP!!!

[Jayhawker]

When I asked about SP's tackle count, I was told that MaxPreps isn't given a ST tackle count. Therefore, although the calculation is the same, the variable value is 0. Take ST out of the equation for TW and it's 61.8 to 47.3. Just because other teams stay on the field for a while doesn't mean that we allow them to score.

I think you'll like this analogy, Shamu -- Think of it like a killer whale playing with a baby seal before he eats it. Just when the baby seal thinks its going to get away...CHOMP!!! Ergo, just when a team thinks they're going to score after having a good drive against TW...STOMP!!!

...you need to go hunting and get rid of your pent up fustration -- first you attack a bird (mythical at that, Jayhawker) then a whale (Shamu). Where is the number for PETA?;)

[Shamu85]

When I asked about SP's tackle count, I was told that MaxPreps isn't given a ST tackle count. Therefore, although the calculation is the same, the variable value is 0. Take ST out of the equation for TW and it's 61.8 to 47.3. Just because other teams stay on the field for a while doesn't mean that we allow them to score.

I think you'll like this analogy, Shamu -- Think of it like a killer whale playing with a baby seal before he eats it. Just when the baby seal thinks its going to get away...CHOMP!!! Ergo, just when a team thinks they're going to score after having a good drive against TW...STOMP!!!

That is a great analogy....except the YPG allowed by the defense doesn't seem to allow for this to be the case. It's really not a very valid stat anyway if they don't have things consistent among teams. I am surprised you bothered to keep responding after the 2nd or 3rd post. :D

BTW, I love me some baby seal. :eek:

[teXan]

...you need to go hunting and get rid of your pent up fustration -- first you attack a bird (mythical at that, Jayhawker) then a whale (Shamu). Where is the number for PETA?;)

Are you sure it's PETA (http://www.petakillsanimals.com/) you want to contact?

[teXan]

That is a great analogy....except the YPG allowed by the defense doesn't seem to allow for this to be the case. It's really not a very valid stat anyway if they don't have things consistent among teams. I am surprised you bothered to keep responding after the 2nd or 3rd post. :D

BTW, I love me some baby seal. :eek:

I just want to have my calculations correct, regardless of the validity. I calculate random crap in my spare time. Yes, I'm that much of a nerd. :cool:

[Shamu85]

I just want to have my calculations correct, regardless of the validity. I calculate random crap in my spare time. Yes, I'm that much of a nerd. :cool:

Well, I'll be at this game, probably sitting on the TW side as I don't love the home side of the Palace. If you see a guy the size of a whale with Georgetown colors on, it's probably me.:ninja:

[Highlandr]

Well, I'll be at this game, probably sitting on the TW side as I don't love the home side of the Palace. If you see a guy the size of a whale with Georgetown colors on, it's probably me.:ninja:

Or Coach John Thompson? :D

[Jayhawker]

That is a great analogy....except the YPG allowed by the defense doesn't seem to allow for this to be the case. It's really not a very valid stat anyway if they don't have things consistent among teams. I am surprised you bothered to keep responding after the 2nd or 3rd post. :D

BTW, I love me some baby seal. :eek:

man....that's not right!

[teXan]

That is a great analogy....except the YPG allowed by the defense doesn't seem to allow for this to be the case. It's really not a very valid stat anyway if they don't have things consistent among teams. I am surprised you bothered to keep responding after the 2nd or 3rd post. :D

BTW, I love me some baby seal. :eek:

Oh yeah, that's right. I saw you at the buffet line (http://ksjtracker.mit.edu/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/orca-attacking-sealions.jpg).

[teXan]

That is a great analogy....except the YPG allowed by the defense doesn't seem to allow for this to be the case. It's really not a very valid stat anyway if they don't have things consistent among teams. I am surprised you bothered to keep responding after the 2nd or 3rd post. :D

BTW, I love me some baby seal. :eek:

Apparently you haven't figured in the covariant of defensive holding after a tackle for negative yards. :rolleyes:

[teXan]

Well, I'll be at this game, probably sitting on the TW side as I don't love the home side of the Palace. If you see a guy the size of a whale with Georgetown colors on, it's probably me.:ninja:

Awesome. Hope to see you there. Be sure to look for me. I'll be in green.

[WoodzDad]

man....that's not right!

http://www.aqfitness.com/babyseals.gif

[sphsfootball2009]

so this is a bit random, but just wondeirng. How did you guys come out of the spring westfield game injury wise? I think we came out perfectly fine but i'm not really sure. Maybe another Stony Point person could tell me how we came out

[TWHSDad]

so this is a bit random, but just wondeirng. How did you guys come out of the spring westfield game injury wise? I think we came out perfectly fine but i'm not really sure. Maybe another Stony Point person could tell me how we came out

Won't post injury information unless the school releases information!!

[MOJO_MAGIC]

Well, I'll be at this game, probably sitting on the TW side as I don't love the home side of the Palace. If you see a guy the size of a whale with Georgetown colors on, it's probably me.:ninja:

Or, maybe Mike Mangino will be scouting at the game.;)

[sptigerfootballguh09]

Did I miss something. The ? was about your team speed.

Example:


The Fastest Man Award went to sophomore CB Julian Dozier of Stony Point High School in Texas. Dozier, 5-foot-7 and 160-pounds, ran a 4.32 40, which was a Combine record. Aside from the blistering 40 time, Dozier also had 21 reps on 150-pounds, a 9’5” broad, and 31.5-inch vertical.



Well "Julian is a senior not a sophomore and hes 5'9" im not sure about the rest of that but it prolly isnt accurate either execpt for the 4.32 40 time

[sptigerfootballguh09]

Well said. And, as long as that team is The Woodlands, you would be correct. Otherwise, I'm sure it would be because of the refs. :)


Oh no you havent seen bad officalling

[sptigerfootballguh09]

so this is a bit random, but just wondeirng. How did you guys come out of the spring westfield game injury wise? I think we came out perfectly fine but i'm not really sure. Maybe another Stony Point person could tell me how we came out


Injury wise we came out wit
same ole same ole from the past few weeks but they'llget that together fine(knock on wood) so really we came out fine from last friday.
Everyone will be starting that i know of injury wise... that i know of, I mean most of em dont care if they play hurt as long as they're playin and tearin up the field.
:D:D:D

[sphsfootball2009]

Won't post injury information unless the school releases information!!

ok if thats how it is i'll talk to people i know at the woodlands. It's as easy as a myspace message. And i know a lot of the coaches at SP and they'd tell me so it's not like i wouldn't find out just make it more for me to do. but fine by me b/c i still get the info i wanted to know.

[sphsfootball2009]

Injury wise we came out wit
same ole same ole from the past few weeks but they'llget that together fine(knock on wood) so really we came out fine from last friday.
Everyone will be starting that i know of injury wise... that i know of, I mean most of em dont care if they play hurt as long as they're playin and tearin up the field.
:D:D:D

awesome thanks. I saw a few people have to be helped off so i wasn't sure. That makes me feel better though

[Maddog2020]

If we are talking D1 talent, we did not mention Chad Lindsay, 6'4, 300 lb. junior from The Woodlands. Lindsay has offers from LSU, Oklahoma, Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee, Georgia, Nebraska, Texas Tech and Houston. If you look at the 2008 5A Texas Football All State Team, Lindsay is named 1st Team All-State. In addition to Lindsay, you have:

Colin Renton - Commit to Navy
Andy McCloud - Commit to UTEP
Alex Tweedy - Offered by North Texas State
Loren Baker - Will probably be offered by Army
Logan Rowe - Offered by Army and Air Force
Ryan Eastman - Will be offered by D1 school by February
Randy Knust - Junior, definitely D1 WR at 6'3, 180
John Norton - May get offered by Baylor

I would say that TWHS definitely has some D1 talent on their team this year.

[platnmram]

The stats for Julian was from NUC going into his jr year. Check it for yourself. It was just an example as it was stated. Much stronger and taller now but still has speed.

[teXan]

ok if thats how it is i'll talk to people i know at the woodlands. It's as easy as a myspace message. And i know a lot of the coaches at SP and they'd tell me so it's not like i wouldn't find out just make it more for me to do. but fine by me b/c i still get the info i wanted to know.

You do understand that it's one of the rules of this message board not to discuss injuries, don't you? It's not a personal thing against you...just following the rules.

[TheScout]

STONY POINT VS THE WOODLANDS



“2626 Predicts”:

1: 34 - 31 TW
2: 24 - 20 TW
3: 30 - 23 TW
4: 23 - 17 TW ($$)

( $$ = Most Accurate formula used )

Avg. / Official Prediction = ( The Woodlands wins 28 - 23 ) (+/-) 5 points

Disclaimer--Not for use with any illegal acts including, but not limited to, betting or wagering. Not responsible for monies earned or lost. Obviously the program does not include OT or take into account trash-time-scores, or the use of 2nd string players during a blowout; whether on defense or offense......but it's pretty dang close.

[teXan]

STONY POINT VS THE WOODLANDS



“2626 Predicts”:

1: 34 - 31 TW
2: 24 - 20 TW
3: 30 - 23 TW
4: 23 - 17 TW ($$)

( $$ = Most Accurate formula used )

Avg. / Official Prediction = ( The Woodlands wins 28 - 23 ) (+/-) 5 points

Disclaimer--Not for use with any illegal acts including, but not limited to, betting or wagering. Not responsible for monies earned or lost. Obviously the program does not include OT or take into account trash-time-scores, or the use of 2nd string players during a blowout; whether on defense or offense......but it's pretty dang close.


That brings up two interesting items:

1. I didn't realize that anyone other than me stayed up this late on the boards.

2. I, not more than 20 minutes ago, revised my prediction (sans 2626) to a 24-21 TW win. Pretty close to what you came up with.

I would imagine that, regardless of any team favoritism, you're hoping for a TW win if for no other reason than to validate your computer program. :D

[TheScout]

That brings up two interesting items:

1. I didn't realize that anyone other than me stayed up this late on the boards.

2. I, not more than 20 minutes ago, revised my prediction (sans 2626) to a 24-21 TW win. Pretty close to what you came up with.

I would imagine that, regardless of any team favoritism, you're hoping for a TW win if for no other reason than to validate your computer program. :D

I am up at all hours, like you:notworthy I would love to see the Woodlands advance, as you know I am a big fan, and I am glad that my program picked you.:D

[teXan]

I am up at all hours, like you:notworthy I would love to see the Woodlands advance, as you know I am a big fan, and I am glad that my program picked you.:D

Thanks, Scout. Remind us again what the correct-pick percentage is for your 2626 program?

[thatboycommin]

If we are talking D1 talent, we did not mention Chad Lindsay, 6'4, 300 lb. junior from The Woodlands. Lindsay has offers from LSU, Oklahoma, Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee, Georgia, Nebraska, Texas Tech and Houston. If you look at the 2008 5A Texas Football All State Team, Lindsay is named 1st Team All-State. In addition to Lindsay, you have:

Colin Renton - Commit to Navy
Andy McCloud - Commit to UTEP
Alex Tweedy - Offered by North Texas State
Loren Baker - Will probably be offered by Army
Logan Rowe - Offered by Army and Air Force
Ryan Eastman - Will be offered by D1 school by February
Randy Knust - Junior, definitely D1 WR at 6'3, 180
John Norton - May get offered by Baylor

I would say that TWHS definitely has some D1 talent on their team this year.

DANG congrats for Colin! When did he commit recently or what?? I am sure the kids like Loren Baker and John Norton will definitely be getting looked at by D1AA teams which is not a bad route to go at all!
PS- THANKS FOR THE UPDATE I HAVE BEEN WONDERING HOW THESE GUYS RECRUITING PROCESS WAS GOING ANYWAY!

O YEA ONCE AGAIN LETS DO THIS HIGHLANDERS!

[Shamu85]

Or, maybe Mike Mangino will be scouting at the game.;)


Well, not anywhere near that big. A killer whale, not a blue whale. :D

[Jayhawker]

Or, maybe Mike Mangino will be scouting at the game.;)

..hey watch it now -- your getting personal ;):D:eek:!

[MOJO_MAGIC]

If we are talking D1 talent, we did not mention Chad Lindsay, 6'4, 300 lb. junior from The Woodlands. Lindsay has offers from LSU, Oklahoma, Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee, Georgia, Nebraska, Texas Tech and Houston. If you look at the 2008 5A Texas Football All State Team, Lindsay is named 1st Team All-State. In addition to Lindsay, you have:

Colin Renton - Commit to Navy
Andy McCloud - Commit to UTEP
Alex Tweedy - Offered by North Texas State
Loren Baker - Will probably be offered by Army
Logan Rowe - Offered by Army and Air Force
Ryan Eastman - Will be offered by D1 school by February
Randy Knust - Junior, definitely D1 WR at 6'3, 180
John Norton - May get offered by Baylor

I would say that TWHS definitely has some D1 talent on their team this year.


That doesn't even include Daniel Lasco, who is a sophmore and is the reigning district 100M champ. Who, by the way, Major Applewhite has already come to watch play.

Didn't Tweedy get an offer from Hawaii before June Jones left for SMU?

[teXan]

Didn't Tweedy get an offer from Hawaii before June Jones left for SMU?

That is correct.

[WoodzDad]

That doesn't even include Daniel Lasco, who is a sophomore and is the reigning district 100M champ. Who, by the way, Major Applewhite has already come to watch play.

Didn't Tweedy get an offer from Hawaii before June Jones left for SMU?

I've heard Lasco got an offer from UofH after last year's Westfield game and Hawaii offered Tweedy after NT's offer.

[Panther #73]

Two great teams. Stony point has a well developed football team this year and can execute both sides of the ball.

I dont know alot about the woodlands but from what ive read and heard about the woodlands it should be a hell of a game...

My predictions

Woodlands - 21
Stony Point - 10

[MOJO_MAGIC]

I've heard Lasco got an offer from UofH after last year's Westfield game and Hawaii offered Tweedy after NT's offer.

Can you imagine how many schools are gonna come calling, sending truckloads of mail to Lasco before he graduates?!?!?!!??!?!?

I'm calling my shot:
Highlanders 24
Stoney Point 17

[thatboycommin]

Can you imagine how many schools are gonna come calling, sending truckloads of mail to Lasco before he graduates?!?!?!!??!?!?

I'm calling my shot:
Highlanders 24
Stoney Point 17

Notice the key word there

[LiveSleepEatFootball]

So no one is giving SP a chance. They are ranked higher and came out of district unscaved. So why does everyone think they will get ran through. And honsetly, TW have not seen a Offensive/defensive combo this season like they are bout to see from SP.

SP-35
TW-31

[Shamu85]

So no one is giving SP a chance. They are ranked higher and came out of district unscaved. So why does everyone think they will get ran through. And honsetly, TW have not seen a Offensive/defensive combo this season like they are bout to see from SP.

SP-35
TW-31

Not sure about nobody giving SP a chance. Most have said it will be very close, but making a choice, they have chosen TW to win. I agree with you that TW probably has not seen as balanced a team this year as SP, but what unscaved? Unscathed, is that what you meant?

[teXan]

So no one is giving SP a chance. They are ranked higher and came out of district unscaved. So why does everyone think they will get ran through. And honsetly, TW have not seen a Offensive/defensive combo this season like they are bout to see from SP.

SP-35
TW-31

Not sure what you mean by not giving SP a chance or will be run through. Looks to me like every real prediction has the game called pretty close. Even you are predicting only a 4 point difference. When you're talking +/- 5 points, this game could go either way.

I think the edge going into the game goes to The Woodlands because a) both teams are evenly matched offensively and b) TW is ranked #1 or #2 in PAPG in the state. Even if they haven't had the same strength of schedule, holding all 5A teams so far (no 4A teams on the schedule) to an 8.1 average makes a difference in people's minds. Even when TW lost to Lufkin, the defense only allowed 15 points.

Speaking of which, I think your score prediction is way too high. I'd be very surprised if either team broke out of the 20's on offense. I realize SP has high regards for their scoring capabilities but, as the numbers show, the TW defense just doesn't let that kind of scoring happen without a fight.

So, you shouldn't go looking for something that isn't really there. Everyone has said that it will be close. Besides, you can scroll back to the top of the page and look at the poll results -- pretty evenly split.

[Modelo]

This game will come down to both d-lines able to put pressure on the QBs.
If The Woods plays like last week against Westfield, then they'll have a good chance of winning. I'll put the Highlanders front defensive 7 against anyone....

If SP D puts pressure on McCloud and company it will be a long night for the Nation!

I hope the offensive game plan has plan for the blitz because SP coach will try to put pressure on the O.(ie 2003) Just like the Lufkin game......

[teXan]

This game will come down to both d-lines able to put pressure on the QBs.
If The Woods plays like last week against Westfield, then they'll have a good chance of winning. I'll put the Highlanders front defensive 7 against anyone....

If SP D puts pressure on McCloud and company it will be a long night for the Nation!

I hope the offensive game plan has plan for the blitz because SP coach will try to put pressure on the O.(ie 2003) Just like the Lufkin game......

SIDE NOTE: Welcome to the board, Modelo. Wow! Post #1. :D

[STPFootball2011]

If we are talking D1 talent, we did not mention Chad Lindsay, 6'4, 300 lb. junior from The Woodlands. Lindsay has offers from LSU, Oklahoma, Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee, Georgia, Nebraska, Texas Tech and Houston. If you look at the 2008 5A Texas Football All State Team, Lindsay is named 1st Team All-State. In addition to Lindsay, you have:

Colin Renton - Commit to Navy
Andy McCloud - Commit to UTEP
Alex Tweedy - Offered by North Texas State
Loren Baker - Will probably be offered by Army
Logan Rowe - Offered by Army and Air Force
Ryan Eastman - Will be offered by D1 school by February
Randy Knust - Junior, definitely D1 WR at 6'3, 180
John Norton - May get offered by Baylor

I would say that TWHS definitely has some D1 talent on their team this year.
WOW im very impressed by the great schools these kids are going to. UTEP, North Texas, Army, and Air Force are great schools to got to.

Oh wait, why should i bow down to all mighty Woodlands because there kids are going to bad D1 colleges. the number of recruits you have on your team doesn't translate to how good your team is because you might have players who are good but don't get D1 offers. it seems that when we see that list we should just not show up to play the prized Sun Belt Cnference recruits.

[STPFootball2011]

Not sure what you mean by not giving SP a chance or will be run through. Looks to me like every real prediction has the game called pretty close. Even you are predicting only a 4 point difference. When you're talking +/- 5 points, this game could go either way.

I think the edge going into the game goes to The Woodlands because a) both teams are evenly matched offensively and b) TW is ranked #1 or #2 in PAPG in the state. Even if they haven't had the same strength of schedule, holding all 5A teams so far (no 4A teams on the schedule) to an 8.1 average makes a difference in people's minds. Even when TW lost to Lufkin, the defense only allowed 15 points.

Speaking of which, I think your score prediction is way too high. I'd be very surprised if either team broke out of the 20's on offense. I realize SP has high regards for their scoring capabilities but, as the numbers show, the TW defense just doesn't let that kind of scoring happen without a fight.

So, you shouldn't go looking for something that isn't really there. Everyone has said that it will be close. Besides, you can scroll back to the top of the page and look at the poll results -- pretty evenly split.

Oh yes, lets bow down to the all mighty Wodlands D whos annihaliated great teams like New Caney(1-8,7 ppg) or Oak Ridge(4-5) and of course CY Fair(1-8).

The Woodlands played a soft schedule and haven't faced the teams SP has week in and week out. The only good team played in district was Lufkin and you LOST!!!

[teXan]

Oh yes, lets bow down to the all mighty Wodlands D whos annihaliated great teams like New Caney(1-8,7 ppg) or Oak Ridge(4-5) and of course CY Fair(1-8).

The Woodlands played a soft schedule and haven't faced the teams SP has week in and week out. The only good team played in district was Lufkin and you LOST!!!

So much for mutual respect. You're kind of a ***** and, as such, on my ignore list.

[STPFootball2011]

So much for mutual respect. You're kind of a ***** and, as such, on my ignore list.
so wait, i present with facts to disprove the fact that your mighty highlander D might not be as good as you think and you feel the reason to "block me"?:confused:

[TWHSDad]

so wait, i present with facts to disprove the fact that your mighty highlander D might not be as good as you think and you feel the reason to "block me"?:confused:

TeXan, he's probably right, we haven't seen that kind of balance and these kids, all recruited by sub par D1 programs, aren't ready for the onslaught these guys will give us.

The teams TWHS have seen this year is really pretty poor, even in pre-season so I think he's got it nailed. All the posters that are calling this a close one are way off...
TWHS will slaughter SP :p Write it down! We've got the swagger and the talent to back it up.

Have fun, we'll be partying all the way back to the Woodz :laugh

BTW, there's more to this team than has been listed or actively played that will be differentiators come Friday!! Heee heee!!! This will be fun.

[teXan]

I see there's a post from STPFootball2011 right after I said I blocked him. I wonder if he's dumb enough to think I can see what it says since his messages are blocked on my screen. :rolleyes:

[STPFootball2011]

I see there's a post from STPFootball2011 right after I said I blocked him. I wonder if he's dumb enough to think I can see what it says since his messages are blocked on my screen. :rolleyes:
oh so i guess im dumb now for voicing my opinion ?

[twcpfan1]

Safe to say whoever wins this game probably goes all the way to the State Semis. I've seen The Woodz and SP looks pretty good on paper. No question The Woodz are talented but will their coaches be able to get them through a close elimination game like Willig was able to in 2003. That's the key for the Woodz I think as well as being able to contain SP's running game.

[teXan]

Honestly, somebody tell me. Is this kid directing any comments to me? If so, I'm cracking up! :D

All I see is This message is hidden because STPFootball2011 is on your ignore list.

[teXan]

Safe to say whoever wins this game probably goes all the way to the State Semis. I've seen The Woodz and SP looks pretty good on paper. No question The Woodz are talented but will their coaches be able to get them through a close elimination game like Willig was able to in 2003. That's the key for the Woodz I think as well as being able to contain SP's running game.

I didn't believe it at first but the loss to Lufkin was definitely a blessing in disguise. I think that put a spur in the coach's haunches to recognize when adjustments need to be made. They waited too long against Lufkin but I think/hope they have it figured out now.

[TWHSDad]

Honestly, somebody tell me. Is this kid directing any comments to me? If so, I'm cracking up! :D

He's just passionate about his school, good supporting fan. May have gone a little off citing portions of a schedule as the basis for a season performance and therefore the projection of an outcome and jumping to a conclusion that the posters are all wrong that have voted for TWHS.

TWCPfan..I think the coaches will be able to manage the run. I'm more afraid of their QB, strong agile kid...he could play a little 'trickeration' on us if we get too aggressive on defense against the run!

[TWHSDad]

BTW, we have a kid on the team:
benches 325
squats about 500,
40 time of 4.6
36" vertical

AND he is a receiver!!! Let a dback/safety get a hold of him after a reception :eek:

Wheee this is gonna be fun!!!

[WoodzDad]

Oh yes, lets bow down to the all mighty Wodlands D whos annihaliated great teams like New Caney(1-8,7 ppg) or Oak Ridge(4-5) and of course CY Fair(1-8).

The Woodlands played a soft schedule and haven't faced the teams SP has week in and week out. The only good team played in district was Lufkin and you LOST!!!

Maybe Houston Teams are just better than central Texas teams -- Harder competition.

[TWHSDad]

Ok, ok, ok...all kidding aside SP is a formidable opponent this will be a tough game but I don't understand the Waco loss? If you look at their record, pretty consistent wins, good differential but apparently not much offense in the Waco game.
What the heck happened?

[STPFootball2011]

He's just passionate about his school, good supporting fan. May have gone a little off citing portions of a schedule as the basis for a season performance and therefore the projection of an outcome and jumping to a conclusion that the posters are all wrong that have voted for TWHS.

TWCPfan..I think the coaches will be able to manage the run. I'm more afraid of their QB, strong agile kid...he could play a little 'trickeration' on us if we get too aggressive on defense against the run!
in terms of the schedule im just trying to point out that The Woodlands haven't played the teams we have in district and may not be use to the physical play that goes on in our district every game and that we'll bring to the palace on friday

[chop44]

He's just passionate about his school, good supporting fan. May have gone a little off citing portions of a schedule as the basis for a season performance and therefore the projection of an outcome and jumping to a conclusion that the posters are all wrong that have voted for TWHS.

TWCPfan..I think the coaches will be able to manage the run. I'm more afraid of their QB, strong agile kid...he could play a little 'trickeration' on us if we get too aggressive on defense against the run!

Dad: I haven't seen y'all play this year but hear great things about your team. Your right about being concerned about McKissic=QB. He is an outstanding QB and an even better leader. You will be impressed by him. Have a safe trip and good luck with the game. A couple of buddies of mine from Pville and i are going to the game and are looking forward to this great match up.

[TWHSDad]

in terms of the schedule im just trying to point out that The Woodlands haven't played the teams we have in district and may not be use to the physical play that goes on in our district every game and that we'll bring to the palace on friday

I got 'cha, NP I really look forward to what could be one of the best games in this year's tournament (Plano/ET also).
As you've noted, you've pulled players early and we've done the same whether it was against Clear Lake, Katy, etc. On Lufkin, we finally got their D scheme and started to make adjustments but a little too late.

TWHS could have the most talented team its ever fielded. This group of seniors have lost one game since the 6th grade...Lukfin and I think that was a coaching issue as much as anything but we had execution problems as well.

We know our team and know they'll show up to play, just like you know your team!! The great thing about the playoffs, sometimes you go up against opponents like this that; you've never seen, don't have common opponents in the season and can only speculate on the outcome.

Friday will be the gauge and final milestone, one will move forward, the other will reflect on what could have been.
:Censor: I love football!

[teXan]

He's just passionate about his school, good supporting fan. May have gone a little off citing portions of a schedule as the basis for a season performance and therefore the projection of an outcome and jumping to a conclusion that the posters are all wrong that have voted for TWHS.

What I didn't get about that schedule comparison was that, in reality, only 4 of the 5A teams they played were above .500 by the end of the season. That means that 4 others were at .500 or less and 2 more were 4A schools, ONE OF WHICH DEALT THEM A LOSS!

Don't come in here talking smack like SP had such a tougher schedule than TW. I've maintained all along that these teams are pretty close with a slight schedule edge to SP. Just because TW has been getting an opinionated 2-4 point favor going into the game is no reason to post the way that 10th grader was posting.

[TheScout]

Thanks, Scout. Remind us again what the correct-pick percentage is for your 2626 program?
for now 100%. But all good things must come to an end. Just hopefully not anytime soon.