26 5a Sweeps Region 4.............

[Rocketman]

SMITHSON VALLEY, MADISON AND JUDSON ALL WINNER'S TODAY.

Rematch between S.V. and Madison should be a good one.

Judson vs Spring Westfield hopefully Judson can pull some magic out of the hat. its going to take that to win this game.

[Mad Hatter]

its gonna have to be a big hat to hold the amount of majic thats gonna take but i bet we have it somewhere lol....

Can any onter district in the state say they swept there entire region ?

[LoneRocket]

its gonna have to be a big hat to hold the amount of majic thats gonna take but i bet we have it somewhere lol....

Can any onter district in the state say they swept there entire region ?
Just believe in Rocket Pride, like we did in 1983 against Yates.

[bhs06_2]

I hate how 26-5A gets a 3 game bye into December football

[LoneRocket]

I hate how 26-5A gets a 3 game bye into December football
I hate how other teams do not play in competitive districts and take a 7 - 9 game bye into November.

[maverick#23]

The 265 has had a tougher round 1 (against the 255) and round 2 (against the 275) than anything Katy will face in Region 3. In fact, Katy will face their first REAL competition of the season in two weeks!

[Rocketman]

Yeah I was there and saw that great game between Judson and Yates, But there is one thing that stands out about that Judson team over this one or two things 1. Judson of 83 had a great running back in Pryor this Judson team does not have a running back near that and 2. Judson 83 had much more fire and heart than this year's team. Judson 83 team avg. 188lbs on the offense line and Judson's Defense of line avg. 205lbs where Yates avg. was about 280lbs. But Judson beat them off the line and were quicker than they were. Judson of 83 still stands as the best team the Rockets ever had to this date. I would put those guys up against any other Rocket team and they would beat the snot out of any other Judson team.

[bhs06_2]

I hate how other teams do not play in competitive districts and take a 7 - 9 game bye into November.

My team is in district 6, which is just as good if not better than 26-5A in my opinion. We got our ***es kicked a lot by the playoff teams so I have first hand experience. Although Grand Prairie is bad but they are comparable to Lee. We were eliminated from playoff contention in Week 7 so we didn't care about our last 3.

[LoneRocket]

Yeah I was there and saw that great game between Judson and Yates, But there is one thing that stands out about that Judson team over this one or two things 1. Judson of 83 had a great running back in Pryor this Judson team does not have a running back near that and 2. Judson 83 had much more fire and heart than this year's team. Judson 83 team avg. 188lbs on the offense line and Judson's Defense of line avg. 205lbs where Yates avg. was about 280lbs. But Judson beat them off the line and were quicker than they were. Judson of 83 still stands as the best team the Rockets ever had to this date. I would put those guys up against any other Rocket team and they would beat the snot out of any other Judson team.
Yeah the 1983 team had that attitude they would slap the taste out of your mouth for looking at them wrong. Point well taken how about the 1996 team with no stand out players that beat a loaded North Shore team even Rocket man out danced the NS mascot before the game.

[LoneRocket]

My team is in district 6, which is just as good if not better than 26-5A in my opinion. We got our ***es kicked a lot by the playoff teams so I have first hand experience. Although Grand Prairie is bad but they are comparable to Lee. We were eliminated from playoff contention in Week 7 so we didn't care about our last 3.
26 is very competitive and it always been “historically” that is why we advance in the playoffs because our district prepares our playoff representatives. If Lee was in another district they might also be a playoff contender.

[bhs06_2]

26 is very competitive and it always been “historically” that is why we advance in the playoffs because our district prepares our playoff representatives. If Lee was in another district they might also be a playoff contender.

Yeah same with ours. Although I don't think Grand Prairie would be, but our 7th place team(Irving) and our 6th place team(Bell) would be playoff contenders at the least in other districts. Our district was rewarded with a first round matchup against SLC that killed one of our teams, another didn't finish the fight against Plano, which was characteristic of SGP this year. Trinity is still in, but take it with a grain of salt because D1 has a lack of competition. It would be nice if they had a 26-5A vs. 6-5A challenge like they do with the ACC/Big 10 in basketball.

SV vs. Trinity
Madison vs. SGP
Judson vs. I-Mac
Reagan vs. Coppell
Churchill vs. Bell
MacArthur vs. Nimitz
Roosevelt vs. Irving
Lee vs. GP!!(Game of the Year)

[Reaganrattler07]

It's weird the playoff rounds are supposed to consistently get harder but once your passed the second round....might as well make reservations for the State tournament!

The only tough round for Region IV would have to have been Round 2 when 26 played 27.

[LoneRocket]

Yeah same with ours. Although I don't think Grand Prairie would be, but our 7th place team(Irving) and our 6th place team(Bell) would be playoff contenders at the least in other districts. Our district was rewarded with a first round matchup against SLC that killed one of our teams, another didn't finish the fight against Plano, which was characteristic of SGP this year. Trinity is still in, but take it with a grain of salt because D1 has a lack of competition. It would be nice if they had a 26-5A vs. 6-5A challenge like they do with the ACC/Big 10 in basketball.

SV vs. Trinity
Madison vs. SGP
Judson vs. I-Mac
Reagan vs. Coppell
Churchill vs. Bell
MacArthur vs. Nimitz
Roosevelt vs. Irving
Lee vs. GP!!(Game of the Year)
I see your point, but I know you are pulling for us because you might feel as Robin Harris said I have an a--whupin in the trunk of my car with your name on it.

[shooter]

Want to talk about Dominating a region look at What Wimberley did to Region IV DI 3A

Wimberley 42-7 over La Vernia
Wimberley 62-7 over West Columbia
Wimberley 52-8 over Hondo

Region Champs, they now get West Orange Stark

[Rocketman]

Go play Cuero and see what would happen you guys would get smoked.

[DiamondJ2]

Five of Judson opponents made it to the 2nd round of playoffs. Three of them will be playing in the 4th round of playoffs next week. Not sure, but I doubt any other team still in playoffs has 3 oppnents continuing on.

[maverick#23]

Good point, that Judson has three losses to teams still playing: Copperas Cove, Smithson Valley, and San Antonio Madison. If Judson were to lose a close game to Spring Westfield then much could be argued about just how good Spring Westfield is compared to those three teams.

[shooter]

Go play Cuero and see what would happen you guys would get smoked.

I'm not from Wimberley I haven't even seen them play...

[nate]

its gonna have to be a big hat to hold the amount of majic thats gonna take but i bet we have it somewhere lol....

Can any onter district in the state say they swept there entire region ?

No other district is the only one with good teams in their entire Region.

[lonny23]

No other district is the only one with good teams in their entire Region.
You, like many before you, are missing a HUGE point. Maybe, just maybe, you see 26-5A teams in the semis and finals because they are VERY good. It's not that other teams aren't good, but it's a direct result of 26-5A having some of the best teams in the state every year and those teams playing up to their expectations. There's no doubt the district dominates the region, but it's because the teams are very good, not because nobody else is good.

Here's how you know I'm telling you the truth. Look what 26-5A does in the semis and the title games. They've won 9 titles and played in 18 title games all-time. Since 1990, they have a winning record over Region 3 in the semis. If you're going to say Region 4 is bad, you also have to say Region 3 is bad. The Little SWC has a great tradition and history and has the most titles, but those guys are 0-3 vs. Judson.

[TexasRed6x]

This is not really that big of feat. I hear all the time that district 26-5A is one of the hardest if not the hardest districts in the state. If you get past the second round in Region four it becomes easier, the Valley and Laredo schools just have a very hard time matching up.

[DawgDave]

Region IV is a weak region - PERIOD.
Year after year the Judson's and Smithson Valley's get to play chumps in the first two rounds.
Neither Madison, Judson or SV would get past the third round if they were in Regions I, II or III.

[Pancake]

Region IV is a weak region - PERIOD.
Year after year the Judson's and Smithson Valley's get to play chumps in the first two rounds.
Neither Madison, Judson or SV would get past the third round if they were in Regions I, II or III.

I agree bout Madison, but not Judson or SV. They would contend for state in any dist or region. It's not their fault the other dists in their region are at best "average". Their success at making title runs speaks volumns for their respective schools.

[lonny23]

This is not really that big of feat. I hear all the time that district 26-5A is one of the hardest if not the hardest districts in the state. If you get past the second round in Region four it becomes easier, the Valley and Laredo schools just have a very hard time matching up.
You get one game against an opponent from the Valley. All the other games are tough games. Don't buy for one minute what those other guys are saying. I look at the playoff brackets and know those boys in Region 1-3 would have a hard time beating Judson and SV and they're probably happy we're in Region 4.

[lonny23]

Region IV is a weak region - PERIOD.
Year after year the Judson's and Smithson Valley's get to play chumps in the first two rounds.
Neither Madison, Judson or SV would get past the third round if they were in Regions I, II or III.
You played Judson and should know they're tough. If you don't think Judson can contend in Region 2, you also don't think your boys can compete. You can't praise your team if you don't think well of Judson.

[nate]

You, like many before you, are missing a HUGE point. Maybe, just maybe, you see 26-5A teams in the semis and finals because they are VERY good. It's not that other teams aren't good, but it's a direct result of 26-5A having some of the best teams in the state every year and those teams playing up to their expectations. There's no doubt the district dominates the region, but it's because the teams are very good, not because nobody else is good.

Here's how you know I'm telling you the truth. Look what 26-5A does in the semis and the title games. They've won 9 titles and played in 18 title games all-time. Since 1990, they have a winning record over Region 3 in the semis. If you're going to say Region 4 is bad, you also have to say Region 3 is bad. The Little SWC has a great tradition and history and has the most titles, but those guys are 0-3 vs. Judson.

I'm missing no points, Lonny. No one else in SA or the Valley play anything close to good football. Every once in a blue moon, the stars may align and a team outside the normal powers (26-5A) gets some talent and wins a few games.

This isn't to say that the 3 teams still playing don't deserve to be there. They do, and I expect both semifinal games to be competitive, but come on. When you think San Marcos is good, that just shows how warped your perspective is.

[dragonsdaddy]

any district that gets to include a po game with an ep school, a school from anywhere south of sa, a houston isd school, and any disd school except carter, has an advantage/bye week.

[lonny23]

I'm missing no points, Lonny. No one else in SA or the Valley play anything close to good football. Every once in a blue moon, the stars may align and a team outside the normal powers (26-5A) gets some talent and wins a few games.

This isn't to say that the 3 teams still playing don't deserve to be there. They do, and I expect both semifinal games to be competitive, but come on. When you think San Marcos is good, that just shows how warped your perspective is.
San Marcos had a good team. I never said they were great, but the 25-5A fans thought they were. The truth is in the middle. They weren't as good as their fans say or as bad as the rest of the state thinks.

[Rerun]

I'm missing no points, Lonny. No one else in SA or the Valley play anything close to good football. Every once in a blue moon, the stars may align and a team outside the normal powers (26-5A) gets some talent and wins a few games.

This isn't to say that the 3 teams still playing don't deserve to be there. They do, and I expect both semifinal games to be competitive, but come on. When you think San Marcos is good, that just shows how warped your perspective is.

That is just an ignorant statement.

San Marcos
Seguin
Schertz Clemens
SA O'Connor

Those teams are all great each and every season.

I'll tell you this much, Madison knocked Clemens out cold. And if SV can beat Madison again, then it's a lock that SV wins state.

In fact, I am so confident in these schools, I still consider Schertz a top 10 team in the state! They just had the worst possible luck having to play a top 5 team in the state in the opening round!

If you think San Antonio Football is easy, you are plain and simple ignorant.

[nate]

If you think San Antonio Football is easy, you are plain and simple ignorant.

Or maybe I'm wise. Maybe I've seen football in every Region in the state. And maybe those who live in SA see those teams through special goggles that make them look good. None of the teams you listed have ever been "great." They aren't even good in comparison to other teams around the state.

[lonny23]

any district that gets to include a po game with an ep school, a school from anywhere south of sa, a houston isd school, and any disd school except carter, has an advantage/bye week.
Thank you!:D It really doesn't make a big difference to me when I look at the various regions. Many teams have at least 1 weak game and it comes in different rounds. You usually get a mid-level game against a 170's power rating team and maybe some in the 180's or the occasional 190 before the semis/title games.

The ONLY top games (Both teams in the 190's) before Week 14 in the last 2 years are:

SLC-Abilene twice
Westfield-North Shore twice
Longview-Lufkin (They have to be first sometimes!:p )

This playoff path stuff is overblown.

[Rerun]

Or maybe I'm wise. Maybe I've seen football in every Region in the state. And maybe those who live in SA see those teams through special goggles that make them look good. None of the teams you listed have ever been "great." They aren't even good in comparison to other teams around the state.


So in 2003 when Katy was wetting their pants in the Buffalodome, they were on their heels because they were playing a team that was not even good?

Then that just makes them look bad.:cool:

[lonny23]

That is just an ignorant statement.

San Marcos
Seguin
Schertz Clemens
SA O'Connor

Those teams are all great each and every season.

I'll tell you this much, Madison knocked Clemens out cold. And if SV can beat Madison again, then it's a lock that SV wins state.

In fact, I am so confident in these schools, I still consider Schertz a top 10 team in the state! They just had the worst possible luck having to play a top 5 team in the state in the opening round!

If you think San Antonio Football is easy, you are plain and simple ignorant.
Those teams you listed are Tier 2 teams and there's no shame in that. They can win playoff games as long as they don't play a Tier 1 team. They'll always be on the fringe of being in the Top 25 and in the Top 25 in good years. Those teams are called Pearland, I-Mac, Pflugerville, and Leander in other regions.

[nate]

So in 2003 when Katy was wetting their pants in the Buffalodome, they were on their heels because they were playing a team that was not even good?

Then that just makes them look bad.:cool:

You've just exposed yourself as someone that knows absolutely nothing about football. Why in the world would Katy "wet their pants" on the way to a 36-12 victory? Ask Yaniv about wet pants. And last time I checked, the Alamodome was still the Katydome - after the Tigers beat both Clemens and Southlake to win the championship in 2003.

[nate]

Those teams you listed are Tier 2 teams and there's no shame in that. They can win playoff games as long as they don't play a Tier 1 team. They'll always be on the fringe of being in the Top 25 and in the Top 25 in good years. Those teams are called Pearland, I-Mac, Pflugerville, and Leander in other regions.

I agree. Except the teams you listed (particularly Pearland, I-Mac and Leander) would beat San Marcos and Seguin every time they played.

[Rerun]

You've just exposed yourself as someone that knows absolutely nothing about football. Why in the world would Katy "wet their pants" on the way to a 36-12 victory? Ask Yaniv about wet pants. And last time I checked, the Alamodome was still the Katydome - after the Tigers beat both Clemens and Southlake to win the championship in 2003.
At halftime what was the score of that Clemens/Katy game? Not 36-12

Also, 36-12 is more respectable then what people were predicting.

"Katy will win 55-0, easy."

Right.

Yea, 26-5A is weak. Region 4 sucks.

Region 4 should just play in TAPPS and leave the UIL championships to the rest of Texas.

:rolleyes:

[nate]

Region 4 sucks.

Region 4 should just play in TAPPS and leave the UIL championships to the rest of Texas.

:rolleyes:

If you could move SV and Judson to another region, I'd be happy to see this happen.

[lonny23]

I agree. Except the teams you listed (particularly Pearland, I-Mac and Leander) would beat San Marcos and Seguin every time they played.
I agree those teams would beat Seguin everytime. I don't think they'd always beat San Marcos.

[MadisonMaverickChick]

Can someone(and this is an honest question)...explain why everyone thinks that Judson is stronger than Madison when they played the same opponents in the reg. season and Madison had the better record and beat Judson?

**this is in reference to the post before stateing that Judson and SV could make it past the 3rd round in div. I II and III...but not Madison.**

[lonny23]

Can someone(and this is an honest question)...explain why everyone thinks that Judson is stronger than Madison when they played the same opponents in the reg. season and Madison had the better record and beat Judson?

**this is in reference to the post before stateing that Judson and SV could make it past the 3rd round in div. I II and III...but not Madison.**
Madison has beaten Judson every other year since 1999, but the Rockets always got better during the playoffs than Madison did. The Mavs have always peaked at some point before the playoffs were over and ended up getting beat. Madison has never been a November team as I call them. Judson has been a November and December team for more than 20 years.

Madison is not the same this year. They are better than in years past. It looks like SV has improved more since Week 9 than Madison and that's why I think the Rangers win next week. Madison does not get the same statewide respect as Judson and SV because they haven't been as successful in the playoffs. Let's consider:

Judson 6 titles, 9 title games, and 15 semifinals since 1982. 3 semis in last 4 years.
SV 3 title games in the last 4 years.
Madison 0 title games and last semifinal in 1984. 2 quarterfinals this decade.

The difference is Madison does not get out of the region and the rest of the state doesn't see them play. The state does see Judson and SV.

[XSVRanger]

Can someone(and this is an honest question)...explain why everyone thinks that Judson is stronger than Madison when they played the same opponents in the reg. season and Madison had the better record and beat Judson?

**this is in reference to the post before stateing that Judson and SV could make it past the 3rd round in div. I II and III...but not Madison.**
Y'all will have a chance to prove something next week against SV. :)

[JRocketMan]

Its not always about record..I think you proved that with Clemens..Clemens did the same thing last year..They go 10-0 or whatever and lose the first round of the playoffs..Judson did the same thing to Clemens last year..Its the strength of schedule and I think Judson had a much tougher schedule than most and thats why I think Judson is a better overall team and the most battle tested team..Look at what we had to do to make the playoffs. Most couldnt have done that. U did beat us but overall I think Judson is better..

[JRocketMan]

Oh yeah goodluck against SV. The SV team u played during the season is about 50% more powerful right now. Its Playoff time and Lonny couldnt put it better about Nov & Dec

[lonny23]

In this state, you have to earn respect and it usually comes after you're successful.

SLC was taken lightly until they won a title.
Nobody respected Abilene last year until they went toe-to-toe with SLC.
SV got bashed, but everybody put them on a pedestal after they almost beat SLC.
All it takes for Madison to get more statewide respect is to beat SV. Playing Katy tough or beating them is icing on the cake.

[MadisonMaverickChick]

Alright,thanks guys.

[Crank_It]

Oh yeah goodluck against SV. The SV team u played during the season is about 50% more powerful right now. Its Playoff time and Lonny couldnt put it better about Nov & Dec

i couldn't agree more, after what i saw yesterday they are hitting on all cylinders, granted it was against LU but nonetheless their offense was stellar and well balanced as always. then the backups let LU score two TD's, but hey, they got to play.

SV and madison next week, ive already picked my seat in the stands! and where is judson playing next week?

[JRocketMan]

If Westfield wins we'll bring them to SA at Dob Farris stadium..If Cy wins we'll go nuetral..Probably in Waco. and right now in the 3rd quarter CY 28 - West 21

[lonny23]

i couldn't agree more, after what i saw yesterday they are hitting on all cylinders, granted it was against LU but nonetheless their offense was stellar and well balanced as always. then the backups let LU score two TD's, but hey, they got to play.

SV and madison next week, ive already picked my seat in the stands! and where is judson playing next week?
That's undecided because SW isn't playing too well in their bye week. SW at Farris or Cy Fair in Waco is what I heard.

[TexasRed6x]

Region IV is a weak region - PERIOD.
Year after year the Judson's and Smithson Valley's get to play chumps in the first two rounds.
Neither Madison, Judson or SV would get past the third round if they were in Regions I, II or III.

This coming from a guy who's team beat an average Judson team by 1 point.

That is really saying a whole lot.

[Mad Hatter]

we took them to the wire thats for sure.

[Crank_It]

That's undecided because SW isn't playing too well in their bye week. SW at Farris or Cy Fair in Waco is what I heard.

Time to call in sick to work next week!:D

[SVite]

No other district is the only one with good teams in their entire Region.


The AP had Schertz Clemens Ranked at #8 in the state,And the 2nd place team (Madison) in 26 5 blew them out in the first round.26 5 makes the rest of the region look bad,so you think it`s weak.

[lonny23]

Time to call in sick to work next week!:D
I told somebody a few days ago that the time for me to come back to Texas on emergency leave for a few weeks is after this weekend!:D

[Crank_It]

I told somebody a few days ago that the time for me to come back to Texas on emergency leave for a few weeks is after this weekend!:D


Hopefully they grant it to you so you can see some good texas ball playin. But since SV/Judson are both playing at the same time (from what iv've heard) i have to choose which game to go to, which one will it be.........?:confused:

[lonny23]

Hopefully they grant it to you so you can see some good texas ball playin. But since SV/Judson are both playing at the same time (from what iv've heard) i have to choose which game to go to, which one will it be.........?:confused:
Judson/Westfield will be a better game than SV/Madison.

[SVite]

any district that gets to include a po game with an ep school, a school from anywhere south of sa, a houston isd school, and any disd school except carter, has an advantage/bye week.


Why dont you pack your school up,and move!go south young man!:D

[PantherFan70]

The AP had Schertz Clemens Ranked at #8 in the state,And the 2nd place team (Madison) in 26 5 blew them out in the first round.26 5 makes the rest of the region look bad,so you think it`s weak.

Judson nor Madison made OC look bad this year. OC should have won the Madison and Judson game, but inexpierience and Youth happened to show itself at the wrong times. But i sure wish both the teams good luck in the up coming weeks. too bad SV and madison have to play eachother this week, both deserve to go on, but that's playoff time for ya!

[zippy]

Well, lets see. They were closer to any team in beating SLC. They also have to end up beating the best in the other regions? No? And they have, so keep trying. 265 might play a couple of chumps in the first two rounds, but a lot of teams (SLC) play Lufkin, Abilene, and SV in the playoffs, and chumps the entire rest of the year(dont even say Lee was a good one...), and we dont hear about that. It all equals out. SV has to face a great teams in every district game. A group of teams that could beat every team in most districts in the state with ease. 2/3 would advance in ANY district you put them in.


Region IV is a weak region - PERIOD.
Year after year the Judson's and Smithson Valley's get to play chumps in the first two rounds.
Neither Madison, Judson or SV would get past the third round if they were in Regions I, II or III.

[rebelman1507]

Go Judson Vs Westfield. I hope you guys win this game against Westfield. They cheated us Northshore with the ref's help. So let me know how the game went. Go Judson (Rockets) Win!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Rerun]

Someone give me the breakdown of this game.

Why is Westfield favored over Judson?

What has Judson not done to be favored?

They are playing better and better each week.

I do not see why Judson will not win again this week.

[Slim-Rob]

Region IV is a weak region - PERIOD.
Year after year the Judson's and Smithson Valley's get to play chumps in the first two rounds.
Neither Madison, Judson or SV would get past the third round if they were in Regions I, II or III.

I guess ouir 6 state titles and 9 title game appearances were just flukes huh. And I recall beating Cove last year, and losing by one even with our struggling offense.
Copperas Cove would barely make it into the playoffs if they were in the 26-5.

[lonny23]

Someone give me the breakdown of this game.

Why is Westfield favored over Judson?

What has Judson not done to be favored?

They are playing better and better each week.

I do not see why Judson will not win again this week.
Westfield is favored because they beat Judson last year and returned more starters. They didn't get beat this year and Judson did 4 times. Westfield has more D1 type guys that people always gravitate to. I say Judson has homefield, the tradition, the better coach, and is playing better in the playoffs. The regular season is over and the roles have been reversed.

[G Unit21]

Man CUERO,, They are like the SLC or SV or LUFKIN of 3a they are a well coached team. Good Luck Fighting Gobblers
'

[SvFootball]

My team is in district 6, which is just as good if not better than 26-5A in my opinion. We got our ***es kicked a lot by the playoff teams so I have first hand experience. Although Grand Prairie is bad but they are comparable to Lee. We were eliminated from playoff contention in Week 7 so we didn't care about our last 3.


if i was having that bad of a season with three games left, with nothing to lose i would try my hardest to light a fire under my team and give more then we gave all year. i guess its just embarrissing to me to be on a losing team. but maybe thats why we are still in with 3 (great) games left hopefully in my season and in my personal opinion there is no top to bottem district better this year the that of 26 5a theres no promisses week to week and every week there are upsets and close games. Sorry if i don't believe for a minute that bhs had as near tough a rode as any team in 26 5a.

[dd90]

Let's be honest. As a whole, Region 4 is weaker than any other region. If 26- 5A were in any other Region, they would not all still be in the playoffs. Even when they do knock off Region 3, it's usually because they don't have to go through the intense, physical games that the Region 3 teams have. The Region 3 teams are beat up physically and mentally, by the time they reach the Semi-Final. The Region 4 teams are fresher and less beat up. This is not to take anything away from Region 4 because those kids and coaches are winning with the cards they are dealt. A good example would be Austin Westlake. Since they left Region 4, they have not made as deep a run in the Playoffs. It's now a tougher road for them and they are experiencing what the other Regions do, Year in and Year out. Once again, I support all Football programs in the State of Texas. We have the toughest state in the USA. From top to bottom we are stronger than any other state. Good Luck to all in the Playoffs!

[JackHandey_98]

[QUOTE=dd90]Let's be honest. As a whole, Region 4 is weaker than any other region. If 26- 5A were in any other Region, they would not all still be in the playoffs. Even when they do knock off Region 3, it's usually because they don't have to go through the intense, physical games that the Region 3 teams have. The Region 3 teams are beat up physically and mentally, by the time they reach the Semi-Final. QUOTE]
Already making excuses for region 3 losing?

[shooter]

Let's be honest. As a whole, Region 4 is weaker than any other region. If 26- 5A were in any other Region, they would not all still be in the playoffs. Even when they do knock off Region 3, it's usually because they don't have to go through the intense, physical games that the Region 3 teams have. The Region 3 teams are beat up physically and mentally, by the time they reach the Semi-Final. The Region 4 teams are fresher and less beat up. This is not to take anything away from Region 4 because those kids and coaches are winning with the cards they are dealt. A good example would be Austin Westlake. Since they left Region 4, they have not made as deep a run in the Playoffs. It's now a tougher road for them and they are experiencing what the other Regions do, Year in and Year out. Once again, I support all Football programs in the State of Texas. We have the toughest state in the USA. From top to bottom we are stronger than any other state. Good Luck to all in the Playoffs!

I hate getting into this argument because it is subjective and all relative but lets look at a few things. I guess in Katy's playoff run they have had to go through some intense, physical games; unlike SV and Madison they have had it easy. I am assuming Katy is beat up physically and mentally at this point because they are in Region III. SV and Madison must be fresher and less beat up because they have been playing easy playoff games over in Region IV...

Region III Katy Tigers Road to State.

Fort Bend Clements Overall 7-3 (2 district losses, 2nd place in 20-5A)
Houston Cypress Creek Overall 8-3 (2 district losses, 2nd place in 17-5A)
Beaumont West Brook 8-1 (1 district loss, 3rd place in 22-5A)
Houston Cypress Falls 9-4 (3 district losses, 3rd in 17-5A)
Opponents overall record 32-11

Not exactly Striking Fear is it....
How about CY-Falls

Region III Cy-Falls Road to State

Houston Memorial Overall 7-3 (Undefeated in district, 1st place 18-5A)
Strake Jesuit Overall 9-1 (1 loss in district, 2nd place in 19-5A)
La Port Overall 8-2 (2 losses in district, 2nd place in 23-5A)
Katy Overall 12-0 (Undefeated, 1st place in 19-5A)
Opponents overall record 36-6

Region IV Smithson Valley Road to State

San Marcos Overall 8-2 (1 district loss, 2nd place in 25-5A)
Jay Overall 9-1 (1 district loss, 1st place 27-5A)
Laredo United 11-1 (1 district loss, 2nd place in 29-5A)
Madison Overall 11-2 (1 district loss to SV, 2nd place in "the 265")
Opponents overall record 39-6

Region IV Madison Road to State

Clemens Overall 10-0 (Undefeated, 1st place district 25-5A)
Clark Overall 9-2 (1 district loss, 2nd place in 27-5A)
PSJA Overall 10-2 (Undefeated in District, 1st place district 31-5A)
SV Overall 12-1 (1 district loss, 1st place in "The 265")
Opponents overall record 41-5

If Katy makes it out of Region II, which I think they will, they will have played no district Champions, and three teams with 3 or more losses. Tough Road? Battle tested?

If Cy-Falls makes it out then you have an argument because they have gone through Memorial and Katy to get there. But still that opponent overall record of 36-6 is still worse than either Region IV team

If SV makes it out of Region IV they will have beaten 1 district Champ, and all of their games were against quality opponents with less than 3 losses, and they will have beaten the second place team in their own district twice.

If Madison makes it out you can make the argument that no other team in the state is more battle tested. They will have defeated 3 district champs and no team with more than 2 losses to their record.

Even if you toss in D1 in the mix your argument over who has it easy is still losing validity because of the easy Katy and Falls draws. Katy is a great team and a great program but they are the ones with the cake walk not Region IV.

One last thing when you say things like
"Even when they do knock off Region 3, it's usually because they don't have to go through the intense, physical games that the Region 3 teams have."
and
"The Region 3 teams are beat up physically and mentally, by the time they reach the Semi-Final."

it sure sounds like you are already making excuses for a loss that has not happened yet. Is there something about Region III that is making you uneasy? Is there something that you already know about the outcome of the State simi-final that the rest of us don’t? Sure sounds like you have set yourself up for a nice big "I TOLD YOU SO!" in a few weeks

Just my Thoughts....

[singularity]

Great post...couldn't be said any better.

[zippy]

Creampuffs all year and 2 tough teams to get to the finals OR
Very tough opponents all year, and 1 tough team to the finals. Which would you rather have? I would take the 2 tough teams late myself. This is comparing 265 Reg 4 to some other teams around the state in other regions.

[singularity]

I agree for any other team, but if you have a team as good as SV, I would take tough teams all year so that you can prepare for the playoffs and still win at the same time. Other weaker teams might like other districts so that they have a better record, and they get further in the playoffs.

[zippy]

But for SV, we would not have had to play 5-6 strong opponents, and less chance of lossing Schrock, Moxy, Rios, Fuller, and a few others that are much needed. Risk is higher playing the entire game to get a win in 5 games, than it is in 2.

I agree for any other team, but if you have a team as good as SV, I would take tough teams all year so that you can prepare for the playoffs and still win at the same time. Other weaker teams might like other districts so that they have a better record, and they get further in the playoffs.

[singularity]

But for SV, we would not have had to play 5-6 strong opponents, and less chance of lossing Schrock, Moxy, Rios, Fuller, and a few others that are much needed. Risk is higher playing the entire game to get a win in 5 games, than it is in 2.
Very true, but I've noticed that Hills players are so fundamentally solid that injuries just don't seem to happen as much as there opponents. I would take 2 on the fact that I know SV will be prepared regrdless of who they play.

[zippy]

Thats one thing SV is always--Prepared. Even if they have to come out missing half of the starters. However our key guys at WR, Beyer and Fuller take injuries some. Fuller was out almost the entire year last year, and he got hurt last week, but should be back. I hope anyway. I have a feeling SV is going to have to score to answer most of Madisons drive. SV has a plan for Calfish this time, itching to see how it all works out.....I think this maybe the week SV shuts down a running/one man QB..

Very true, but I've noticed that Hills players are so fundamentally solid that injuries just don't seem to happen as much as there opponents. I would take 2 on the fact that I know SV will be prepared regrdless of who they play.

[singularity]

I think they will shut him down. I have a feeling we will see some SV second stringers.

[lonny23]

Let's be honest. As a whole, Region 4 is weaker than any other region. If 26- 5A were in any other Region, they would not all still be in the playoffs. Even when they do knock off Region 3, it's usually because they don't have to go through the intense, physical games that the Region 3 teams have. The Region 3 teams are beat up physically and mentally, by the time they reach the Semi-Final. The Region 4 teams are fresher and less beat up. This is not to take anything away from Region 4 because those kids and coaches are winning with the cards they are dealt. A good example would be Austin Westlake. Since they left Region 4, they have not made as deep a run in the Playoffs. It's now a tougher road for them and they are experiencing what the other Regions do, Year in and Year out. Once again, I support all Football programs in the State of Texas. We have the toughest state in the USA. From top to bottom we are stronger than any other state. Good Luck to all in the Playoffs!
Westlake is experiencing not having Ron Schroeder as coach. It has nothing to do with the Region. They also don't have the same talent level. Westlake was not as good their last few years in Region 4, either.