Who Wins SV or P-Ville?

[SVite]

Who wins. I think SV`s balance in in every phase of the game will win out, over a good P-Ville team.

[TulsaHale74]

Who wins. I think SV`s balance in in every phase of the game will win out, over a good P-Ville team.
A fair number of people have predicted SV to win state in the bracket pickem, so they agree with you.

[chap fan]

I think Pflugerville has the better players, SV the better coach. Go Panthers--show them how it's done!

[d-train]

I think Pflugerville has the better players, SV the better coach. Go Panthers--show them how it's done!
Exactamundo! Reagan can't win state despite beating Madison and SV?

[TexasRed6x]

SV - I have seen both play and should be a great game, but SV is always prepared and really well coached and very hard to beat. I also think the loss of Bishop will be a huge factor for PV. IN the end it will come back to coaching and nobody comes close to Hill.

[pantherbsb2510]

SV - I have seen both play and should be a great game, but SV is always prepared and really well coached and very hard to beat. I also think the loss of Bishop will be a huge factor for PV. IN the end it will come back to coaching and nobody comes close to Hill.

Bishop is back just so you know.

[Wrecking Crew 12]

Bishop is back just so you know.

I've heard this same thing also.

[TexasRed6x]

I've heard this same thing also.

I have to change my pick then

SV 28
PV 21

[Panther #73]

Bishop is back just so you know.


So much for keeping it a secret for game time :Rolls eyes:

[chap fan]

Well here's how the local newspapers see it:

1. SA Express-News:
Favorite: Smithson Valley (9-1). The Rangers are beatable, perhaps this week by Pflugerville. Until it happens, we’ll give them the benefit of the doubt.
2. Austin American-Statesman:
QUARTERBACK

Pflugerville's Chris Mercado has only 45 pass attempts in the Panthers' run-dominated offense, though six of those have been touchdowns. Smithson Valley's Jacob Brown has 1,267 yards and 11 touchdowns, but also seven interceptions.

Edge: Smithson Valley

OTHER OFFENSE

Pflugerville doesn't have a runner with more than 700 yards but does have five rushers with 30 or more carries this season, led by Storm Woods' 683 yards and 8 touchdowns. Trey Reinhart leads Smithson Valley with 818 yards.

Edge: Pflugerville

DEFENSE

The Panthers rode their defense to last year's state championship game, and the defense is putting up even better numbers this year, allowing 14.5 ppg in 2008, compared to 20.8 in 2007. Last week against San Antonio Roosevelt, Smithson Valley allowed only one score in four Roosevelt trips to the red zone.

Edge: Pflugerville

SPECIAL TEAMS

Justin Garelick is one of Central Texas' top kickers, including a pair of 47-yard field goals, and Pflugerville teammate Sammy Flowers returned a kickoff 99 yards against Bowie. Taylor Cowart has kicked three field goals in the past three weeks for Smithson Valley.

Edge: Pflugerville

INTANGIBLES

Pflugerville has nine starters back from last year's Class 5A Division II runners-up, though only one — center Joe Hurtado — is on offense. Panthers defensive end Alex Okafor has committed to Texas. Smithson Valley, which has made it to two state finals this decade, hasn't lost since a 10-7 setback to San Antonio Reagan on Sept. 11.

Edge: Pflugerville

OUR PICKS

Rick Cantu: Pflugerville

Danny Davis: Pflugerville

[Panther #73]

Well here's how the local newspapers see it:

1. SA Express-News:
Favorite: Smithson Valley (9-1). The Rangers are beatable, perhaps this week by Pflugerville. Until it happens, we’ll give them the benefit of the doubt.
2. Austin American-Statesman:
QUARTERBACK

Pflugerville's Chris Mercado has only 45 pass attempts in the Panthers' run-dominated offense, though six of those have been touchdowns. Smithson Valley's Jacob Brown has 1,267 yards and 11 touchdowns, but also seven interceptions.

Edge: Smithson Valley

OTHER OFFENSE

Pflugerville doesn't have a runner with more than 700 yards but does have five rushers with 30 or more carries this season, led by Storm Woods' 683 yards and 8 touchdowns. Trey Reinhart leads Smithson Valley with 818 yards.

Edge: Pflugerville

DEFENSE

The Panthers rode their defense to last year's state championship game, and the defense is putting up even better numbers this year, allowing 14.5 ppg in 2008, compared to 20.8 in 2007. Last week against San Antonio Roosevelt, Smithson Valley allowed only one score in four Roosevelt trips to the red zone.

Edge: Pflugerville

SPECIAL TEAMS

Justin Garelick is one of Central Texas' top kickers, including a pair of 47-yard field goals, and Pflugerville teammate Sammy Flowers returned a kickoff 99 yards against Bowie. Taylor Cowart has kicked three field goals in the past three weeks for Smithson Valley.

Edge: Pflugerville

INTANGIBLES

Pflugerville has nine starters back from last year's Class 5A Division II runners-up, though only one — center Joe Hurtado — is on offense. Panthers defensive end Alex Okafor has committed to Texas. Smithson Valley, which has made it to two state finals this decade, hasn't lost since a 10-7 setback to San Antonio Reagan on Sept. 11.

Edge: Pflugerville

OUR PICKS

Rick Cantu: Pflugerville

Danny Davis: Pflugerville



Woo!! lets go pville!

[CKE]

Well here's how the local newspapers see it:

1. SA Express-News:
Favorite: Smithson Valley (9-1). The Rangers are beatable, perhaps this week by Pflugerville. Until it happens, we’ll give them the benefit of the doubt.
2. Austin American-Statesman:
QUARTERBACK

Pflugerville's Chris Mercado has only 45 pass attempts in the Panthers' run-dominated offense, though six of those have been touchdowns. Smithson Valley's Jacob Brown has 1,267 yards and 11 touchdowns, but also seven interceptions.

Edge: Smithson Valley

OTHER OFFENSE

Pflugerville doesn't have a runner with more than 700 yards but does have five rushers with 30 or more carries this season, led by Storm Woods' 683 yards and 8 touchdowns. Trey Reinhart leads Smithson Valley with 818 yards.

Edge: Pflugerville

DEFENSE

The Panthers rode their defense to last year's state championship game, and the defense is putting up even better numbers this year, allowing 14.5 ppg in 2008, compared to 20.8 in 2007. Last week against San Antonio Roosevelt, Smithson Valley allowed only one score in four Roosevelt trips to the red zone.

Edge: Pflugerville

SPECIAL TEAMS

Justin Garelick is one of Central Texas' top kickers, including a pair of 47-yard field goals, and Pflugerville teammate Sammy Flowers returned a kickoff 99 yards against Bowie. Taylor Cowart has kicked three field goals in the past three weeks for Smithson Valley.

Edge: Pflugerville

INTANGIBLES

Pflugerville has nine starters back from last year's Class 5A Division II runners-up, though only one — center Joe Hurtado — is on offense. Panthers defensive end Alex Okafor has committed to Texas. Smithson Valley, which has made it to two state finals this decade, hasn't lost since a 10-7 setback to San Antonio Reagan on Sept. 11.

Edge: Pflugerville

OUR PICKS

Rick Cantu: Pflugerville

Danny Davis: Pflugerville

A SA paper picks SV and an Austin paper picks Pflugerville...go figure

And if you put stock into that Austin paper you would have to be crazy....its hilarious that they leave out that while Pflugerville is allowing 14.5 points a game SV is only allowing 12.6 in a much tougher district and giving the edge to Pflugerville in the special teams is one of the most homer things in the history of the statesmen..Pflugerville does have a FG kicker but special teams consists of more than kicking FG's and I can guarantee that P-ville does not work on there special teams like SV does each and every day

[Panther #73]

A SA paper picks SV and an Austin paper picks Pflugerville...go figure

And if you put stock into that Austin paper you would have to be crazy....its hilarious that they leave out that while Pflugerville is allowing 14.5 points a game SV is only allowing 12.6 in a much tougher district and giving the edge to Pflugerville in the special teams is one of the most homer things in the history of the statesmen..Pflugerville does have a FG kicker but special teams consists of more than kicking FG's and I can guarantee that P-ville does not work on there special teams like SV does each and every day


Have you seen our kicker??? 90% of his kickoffs are out of the endzone! His punts are EXTREMELY better from last year being 3rd string i think....and hes made continuous field goals throughout the season...This kid made a 60+ yarder in practice...Every team is gonna have good players... And our kickoff and kickoff return team will pop you in the mouth no matter what. They can hit (yes we know SV can too)

Garelick is the future of kicking at Texas Tech!

Every team practices things alot differently!

[bobcat83]

Have you seen our kicker??? 90% of his kickoffs are out of the endzone! His punts are EXTREMELY better from last year being 3rd string i think....and hes made continuous field goals throughout the season...This kid made a 60+ yarder in practice...Every team is gonna have good players....

Garelick is the future of kicking at Texas Tech!

He is a great kicker.
Taylor Cowart is a very good kicker.
How many blocked kicks do they have? How well does he punt with people in his face.How well do they cover kickoffs etc...Special teams encompasses alot.

[Panther #73]

He is a great kicker.
Taylor Cowart is a very good kicker.
How many blocked kicks do they have? How well does he punt with people in his face.How well do they cover kickoffs etc...Special teams encompasses alot.


Yes i know this..

[CKE]

Have you seen our kicker??? 90% of his kickoffs are out of the endzone! His punts are EXTREMELY better from last year being 3rd string i think....and hes made continuous field goals throughout the season...This kid made a 60+ yarder in practice...Every team is gonna have good players....

Garelick is the future of kicking at Texas Tech!

SV wins almost all of there games with field position like I said y'all have a damn good kicker I gave you that but I don't see Pflugerville practicing there special teams for over an hour and 45 min each day like SV.Blocking kicks,kick coverage,kick return, and kick placement(Sv does not kick deep on purpose most the time) are all part of the special teams having one kicker that can kick a ball 100 yards does not mean P-ville has a better special teams.

[chop44]

Pville has returned at least 2 kickoffs for touchdowns this year. If you go to the game, watch to see if Hill kicks the ball deep. He won't. He will do pooch kicks. Pville has also returned at least 3 punts for touchdowns as well. Pville has had a punt blocked and a couple of PATs blocked this year. Need to shore that up. Could also shore up kickoff coverage as we had one (Bowie) run back on us this year. We have a new deep snapper this year and he has done well. Overall, Pville has way better than average special teams.

I'm sure SV does too. Again, this should be a pretty even matchup. Hopefully, our young backs can hold onto the ball. TO's as always will be a key.

[bobcat83]

Itangibles- The Austin paper gave this category to P'Ville-
Of course I will go the other way.
Hill and his staff's preparation.
Film study-staff and players-I have been amazed at what they picked up in all phases of the game.
Ability to adjust-time and time again they make minor adjustments on both sides of the ball during a game.
SV QB-how good is he? His decision making,reads and ability to change plays in the last 6-7 games has been excellent.You do not see that in the stats.The whole offense since the Reagan game is a different team.

[CKE]

Pville has returned at least 2 kickoffs for touchdowns this year. If you go to the game, watch to see if Hill kicks the ball deep. He won't. He will do pooch kicks. Pville has also returned at least 3 punts for touchdowns as well. Pville has had a punt blocked and a couple of PATs blocked this year. Need to shore that up. Could also shore up kickoff coverage as we had one (Bowie) run back on us this year. We have a new deep snapper this year and he has done well. Overall, Pville has way better than average special teams.

I'm sure SV does too. Again, this should be a pretty even matchup. Hopefully, our young backs can hold onto the ball. TO's as always will be a key.

If this was last year I would have agreed with you but after seeing coach Hill kick to the Green kids in the Madison game every time...pretty much daring them to run it back I would have to disagree...he may use the pooch kick because we are so good at it and get the ball back a lot but it will not be every time and your returners will get there chance.

[CKE]

Itangibles- The Austin paper gave this category to P'Ville-
Of course I will go the other way.
Hill and his staff's preparation.
Film study-staff and players-I have been amazed at what they picked up in all phases of the game.
Ability to adjust-time and time again they make minor adjustments on both sides of the ball during a game.
SV QB-how good is he? His decision making,reads and ability to change plays in the last 6-7 games has been excellent.You do not see that in the stats.The whole offense since the Reagan game is a different team.
It is a very homer pick...but what are they going to say? An SV win would not sell the papers in Austin.

[svalumnus03]

Well here's how the local newspapers see it:





DEFENSE

The Panthers rode their defense to last year's state championship game, and the defense is putting up even better numbers this year, allowing 14.5 ppg in 2008, compared to 20.8 in 2007. Last week against San Antonio Roosevelt, Smithson Valley allowed only one score in four Roosevelt trips to the red zone.

Edge: Pflugerville



It seems to me that if SV has an Opponents record of 53-47 and a rank of 41 in point margin statewide, then their defense should be better than P-ville's 47-53 Opp record and only being 44th in point margin. Not only that, but SV's PAPG rank is 15, while P-ville's is 27th. Seems to me that SV has the edge in every way on this one.

[d-train]

It seems to me that if SV has an Opponents record of 53-47 and a rank of 41 in point margin statewide, then their defense should be better than P-ville's 47-53 Opp record and only being 44th in point margin. Not only that, but SV's PAPG rank is 15, while P-ville's is 27th. Seems to me that SV has the edge in every way on this one.
Don't work in HS. Herrmann doesn't try to run scores up, he is old school, they run a 1980s offense. He want's ball control and TDs. He would rather beat you 28-7 with a TD in each quarter, than get in a 49-35 shootout each week. P-ville has EXCELLENT SPEED and their KR/PRers are some of the best I have ever seen, even w/o Bishop. SV will roll if PV turns the ball over and gets mucho penalties. If SV gives up big plays and returns and has trouble moving the ball they will get dominated, but could still be in striking range like Westlake and Bowie. P-ville's offense isn't a putt'em away offense if you have a quick strike offense like Bowie or Westlake or SV...

[svalumnus03]

Don't work in HS. Herrmann doesn't try to run scores up, he is old school, they run a 1980s offense. He want's ball control and TDs. He would rather beat you 28-7 with a TD in each quarter, than get in a 49-35 shootout each week. P-ville has EXCELLENT SPEED and their KR/PRers are some of the best I have ever seen, even w/o Bishop. SV will roll if PV turns the ball over and gets mucho penalties. If SV gives up big plays and returns and has trouble moving the ball they will get dominated, but could still be in striking range like Westlake and Bowie. P-ville's offense isn't a putt'em away offense if you have a quick strike offense like Bowie or Westlake or SV...

I think both are relevant statistics, not deciders though. But SV isn't far from the old style of offense. And they are far from a quick strike offense.

[CKE]

I think both are relevant statistics, not deciders though. But SV isn't far from the old style of offense. And they are far from a quick strike offense.

Do not take the bait with this guy....even the Austin posters on this site know to steer clear of d-train....you can give fact after fact and he will keep going

[AE 8008]

hard to go against pville d..okafor in particular

[Panther #73]

hard to go against pville d..okafor in particular

Dont forget IK

[trainin' the game]

go p-ville shut'em up hard!!!!!;)

ut comment okafor will handle it.

[AE 8008]

Dont forget IK

yes

[d-train]

I think both are relevant statistics, not deciders though. But SV isn't far from the old style of offense. And they are far from a quick strike offense.
You run ace, offset I and spread. Base plays are inside and outside zones.
Tall WR that runs reverses. Best pass route is a comeback out. 4-3 gap control defense that plays to quickness more than size. I have seen you play before.

[chop44]

Latest forecast calls for kickoff temperture of 61 degrees and NNW winds at 19 mph. Advantage, Pville since they don't throw much. Wonder who will bring the bigger crowd?

[bobcat83]

Latest forecast calls for kickoff temperture of 61 degrees and NNW winds at 19 mph. Advantage, Pville since they don't throw much. Wonder who will bring the bigger crowd?

Great weather for football.As I said before Jacob Brown is extremely accurate-specially on the short and medium range passes.The wind should hurt SV.

[SLC]

What a great 1st round matchup.. Big early test.. I cant see Pflugy winning this one... Smithson Valley has a great defense... I'm going with the Valley on this one..

SV 35

Pflugy 20

[Panther #73]

What a great 1st round matchup.. Big early test.. I cant see Pflugy winning this one... Smithson Valley has a great defense... I'm going with the Valley on this one..

SV 35

Pflugy 20


What about our D? Were Great too...;)

[CCParent]

Latest forecast calls for kickoff temperture of 61 degrees and NNW winds at 19 mph. Advantage, Pville since they don't throw much. Wonder who will bring the bigger crowd?Chop, you will be happy to know that PMS won both games. But I'm not happy.:(

[SV61]

What about our D? Were Great too...;)

Yes, you guys DO have a great D.

My whole deal is, SV needs to get on top first. If P-ville gets their offense clickin, and gets up, SV may get out SVed.

In other words, get a lead, take LOTS of time off the clock, let your defense win the ball game.

WhoEVER wins this game, I feel, will do it like that.

SV is definitely stronger this year, than I thought they would be. Their defense is very good, and gets better as the game goes on. SV's offense has also gotten better through this season.

I think it will be a good game!

[chop44]

Chop, you will be happy to know that PMS won both games. But I'm not happy.:(

Thanks CC. I read on the Pville website that the 8th grade A & B teams went undefeated this year. Freshmen A team has an undefeated district record (7-0). Looks like the talent pool is still full. Need more mean OL type athletes. By the way, your Cougars have some good looking kids coming back next year. I thought ya'll played very hard last week and did some good things through the air. Are you going to our game in Buda? If we don't win it I hope SV goes all the way. We are not happy about playing them so early.

[CCParent]

Thanks CC. I read on the Pville website that the 8th grade A & B teams went undefeated this year. Freshmen A team has an undefeated district record (7-0). Looks like the talent pool is still full. Need more mean OL type athletes. By the way, your Cougars have some good looking kids coming back next year. I thought ya'll played very hard last week and did some good things through the air. Are you going to our game in Buda? If we don't win it I hope SV goes all the way. We are not happy about playing them so early.My daughter is playing with the 13-14 boys in PYBA this year before her select starts up and guess when tryouts are. They should reschedule for Sunday in my opinion. If there's any chance at all I will be there.

[Panther #73]

Yes, you guys DO have a great D.

My whole deal is, SV needs to get on top first. If P-ville gets their offense clickin, and gets up, SV may get out SVed.

In other words, get a lead, take LOTS of time off the clock, let your defense win the ball game.

WhoEVER wins this game, I feel, will do it like that.

SV is definitely stronger this year, than I thought they would be. Their defense is very good, and gets better as the game goes on. SV's offense has also gotten better through this season.

I think it will be a good game!

Agreed. I think who ever gets the lead early will take control of this ball game. They get the lead, there defense steps up and the offense run the clock down like no bodys business

[bobcat83]

Agreed. I think who ever gets the lead early will take control of this ball game. They get the lead, there defense steps up and the offense run the clock down like no bodys business

Both teams better make good on every possesion because neither will have any.One turnover,one big play could decide this game

[AE 8008]

is this game on tonight? if so, any tv possibilities?

[Panther #73]

is this game on tonight? if so, any tv possibilities?

The games saturday at 1....Its not on TV

[AE 8008]

The games saturday at 1....Its not on TV

alright thanks

[HSFootball#1]

Isn't SV winning state this year?

[chop44]

If they beat Pville they will likely win the region. State is a different animal.

[Panther #73]

Isn't SV winning state this year?

a little early dont ya think? some guy had his pick of the bracket for D2 and had SV win the whole thing.. and he didnt even put abilene going to state! Thats just crazy talk

[d-train]

If they beat Pville they will likely win the region. State is a different animal.
They might have to beat Reagan, who was the district champion again.

[CKE]

They might have to beat Reagan, who was the district champion again.

SV will do exactly what they did to Westlake in 2002...lose by a TD early in the season then knock them out 41-14 in the playoffs...I play a lot of Halo with a couple of the Reagan kids on the football team and they don't want any part of Sv in the playoffs..they are praying Pflugerville beats us.

[abileneeagles311]

i hope p-ville makes it to state, so that abilene has a CHANCE at playing them. because i want a rematch. ;);)

[DocHolliday]

I agree with CKE, SV is a totally different team from the early season defeat to Reagan. Although if they were to play again I do not seeing it being 41-14.. but I do think they would win handily. But for now... I hear this Pflugerville team is pretty good?

[d-train]

SV will do exactly what they did to Westlake in 2002...lose by a TD early in the season then knock them out 41-14 in the playoffs...I play a lot of Halo with a couple of the Reagan kids on the football team and they don't want any part of Sv in the playoffs..they are praying Pflugerville beats us.
Didn't you lose TWICE to Madison in 07?

[CKE]

Didn't you lose TWICE to Madison in 07?

Yes we did..whats your point?Now your just looking for an argument...which is why no one (not even the Austin posters) respond to you.

[bobcat83]

a little early dont ya think? some guy had his pick of the bracket for D2 and had SV win the whole thing.. and he didnt even put abilene going to state! Thats just crazy talk

There are some other teams in Region 1 that are pretty good besides Abilene!
Also that weak District schedule may hurt them.
So it's not that crazy

[bobcat83]

They might have to beat Reagan, who was the district champion again.
That was Reagan's 1st district title-tied with SV but own's the head to head obviously.
Reagan doesn't want any part of SV again.SV basically self imploded coming off a big win vs Judson.They drove up and down the field but never made a play offensively,defensively or special teams.Alot of penalties-a very uncharacteristic SV performance.Remember this team basically had 1 starter returning on both sides of the ball and that was the 3rd game.They are a much different team right now.

[SVite]

The thing i keep thinking about is the wind in this game. Hopefully the weather is`nt a factor.

[d-train]

The thing i keep thinking about is the wind in this game. Hopefully the weather is`nt a factor.
P-ville don't pass, so the weather won't be a factor for them.

[chop44]

Bishop did practice this week and will play. He looked pretty good for being out 7 weeks. Cool weather with low humidity should help him from a conditioning standpoint. Another potential playmaker. The defense is jacked up and ready to go. All in all everyone is fairly healthy so no excuses.

[bobcat83]

Bishop did practice this week and will play. He looked pretty good for being out 7 weeks. Cool weather with low humidity should help him from a conditioning standpoint. Another potential playmaker. The defense is jacked up and ready to go. All in all everyone is fairly healthy so no excuses.

Despite the news of Bishop's return and all the D1 talent on defense SV has decided to go ahead and show up for Saturday's contest;)
Jacob Brown(Qb) and Trey Reinhart(RB) are kinda small so we ask that Okafor and his buddies to take it easy on them!Thanks

[SVite]

P-ville don't pass, so the weather won't be a factor for them.


SV does pass, and good at it. QB can sure run, if he needs to. I`m hoping he does, to open up the offense a little more. I see some power running for Mecke also in this game. TE`s catching some short passes.

Sounds like a Judson team, with all run, and defense. SV will be prepared...;)

[bobcat83]

SV does pass, and good at it. QB can sure run, if he needs to. I`m hoping he does, to open up the offense a little more. I see some power running for Mecke also in this game. TE`s catching some short passes.

Sounds like a Judson team, with all run, and defense. SV will be prepared...;)

I too expect to see Mecke a little more during this game.TE's may be needed to keep Okafor and company from getting to Brown.But you can probably expect 12-15 passes.That's been the norm for the last 5-6 games.He's 23 for 27 over the last 2 games.

[d-train]

SV does pass, and good at it. QB can sure run, if he needs to. I`m hoping he does, to open up the offense a little more. I see some power running for Mecke also in this game. TE`s catching some short passes.

Sounds like a Judson team, with all run, and defense. SV will be prepared...;)
The wing-t makes them ballanced, unlike the I, where you can key the I-back.

[CougarBacker]

Pville has returned at least 2 kickoffs for touchdowns this year. If you go to the game, watch to see if Hill kicks the ball deep. He won't. He will do pooch kicks. Pville has also returned at least 3 punts for touchdowns as well. Pville has had a punt blocked and a couple of PATs blocked this year. Need to shore that up. Could also shore up kickoff coverage as we had one (Bowie) run back on us this year. We have a new deep snapper this year and he has done well. Overall, Pville has way better than average special teams.

I'm sure SV does too. Again, this should be a pretty even matchup. Hopefully, our young backs can hold onto the ball. TO's as always will be a key.

Didn't Spencer Eggleston of Connally run back a kick 92 yards in your last district game?

Pflug Punter looked very good with people rushing him...very steady got off good kicks.

[bobcat83]

burlson is out for playoffs.. got sent to OC for a reason that cant be explained on this message board. for those of you who dont know he returned about 3-4 punts this year so that will hurt us in that aspect of the game

Also was your 3rd leading rusher I believe.

[picperp]

burlson is out for playoffs.. got sent to OC for a reason that cant be explained on this message board. for those of you who dont know he returned about 3-4 punts this year so that will hurt us in that aspect of the game

What's "OC."? You sure he's out?

[Crank_It]

The wing-t makes them ballanced, unlike the I, where you can key the I-back.

True, but the I allows for a lead blocker so even if you key the RB, if the FB is any good, the LB will get blown up opening gaps in the second level.


To be honest, I just wanna see how SV's offense can react to a very stout P-ville defense led by that Okafor kid who is obviously insanely good since he commited to Texas. SV has been a different animal since losing to Reagan and has been firing on all cylinders. Thats a heck of a first round match, one of the tops in state, and while I havent gotten to see P-ville play in person the homer in me is gonna have to go with SV by 7. BTW, why are they playing on saturday again?

[CCParent]

True, but the I allows for a lead blocker so even if you key the RB, if the FB is any good, the LB will get blown up opening gaps in the second level.


To be honest, I just wanna see how SV's offense can react to a very stout P-ville defense led by that Okafor kid who is obviously insanely good since he commited to Texas. SV has been a different animal since losing to Reagan and has been firing on all cylinders. Thats a heck of a first round match, one of the tops in state, and while I havent gotten to see P-ville play in person the homer in me is gonna have to go with SV by 7. BTW, why are they playing on saturday again?Okafor will need at least 2 blockers on him and if you do that, that leaves IK 1 on 1. Very stout front four on defense. Please try to pass on them. Need to update your signature to 2nd place all time (tied right now with ND) but soon to pass them like tomorrow.

[d-train]

True, but the I allows for a lead blocker so even if you key the RB, if the FB is any good, the LB will get blown up opening gaps in the second level.


To be honest, I just wanna see how SV's offense can react to a very stout P-ville defense led by that Okafor kid who is obviously insanely good since he commited to Texas. SV has been a different animal since losing to Reagan and has been firing on all cylinders. Thats a heck of a first round match, one of the tops in state, and while I havent gotten to see P-ville play in person the homer in me is gonna have to go with SV by 7. BTW, why are they playing on saturday again?
Judson, Reagan, NB and Roosevelt all had very good defenses. AUSTIN RUSH HOUR TRAFFIC and WORKING CLASSS FANS!

[bobcat83]

Okafor will need at least 2 blockers on him and if you do that, that leaves IK 1 on 1. Very stout front four on defense. Please try to pass on them. Need to update your signature to 2nd place all time (tied right now with ND) but soon to pass them like tomorrow.

They can pass and will.Blocking those kids will be a chore.The line is not big like last years but very fundamental.The QB is elusive and pretty quick-he will need that.

[d-train]

P-ville has one of the fastest defenses I have seen.

[bobcat83]

P-ville has one of the fastest defenses I have seen.

SV has seen that kind of speed several times this year.Maybe not the size and speed combination-but speed yes.I don't think either team is going to surprise the other.

[d-train]

SV has seen that kind of speed several times this year.Maybe not the size and speed combination-but speed yes.I don't think either team is going to surprise the other.
Judson usually plays the best defense in SA, and that includes this year, and they could not move the ball and were worn down in the 4th. Austin has ALWAYS had better talent than SA. SA has had better overall HS football in 5A, because they keep enrollments in the 2500 plus range, but AISD is ALWAYS building a new school when the enrollment hits 2500. Despite what some folks say, and it is IGNORANT, football and track & field go hand in hand. Judson has been dominant in Region 4 in both sports, outside of being beaten by Reagan and LBJ. Go to an AAU summer meet and you will see kids from P-ville withbtheir 3 or so teams, Converse and the Killeen area smoking the other areas. This talent moves up through the system to supply Cove, Judson, Wagner, Clemens, Steele, Roosevelt, Madison and P-ville ISD with some of the faster teams around.

[bobcat83]

Judson usually plays the best defense in SA, and that includes this year, and they could not move the ball and were worn down in the 4th. Austin has ALWAYS had better talent than SA. SA has had better overall HS football in 5A, because they keep enrollments in the 2500 plus range, but AISD is ALWAYS building a new school when the enrollment hits 2500. Despite what some folks say, and it is IGNORANT, football and track & field go hand in hand. Judson has been dominant in Region 4 in both sports, outside of being beaten by Reagan and LBJ.

SV will not wear down-they are probably the best conditioned team you will see-period.
Judson may have been the 4th best defense this year behind New Braunfels,Smithson Valley and Reagan.
SV shut down Judson completley in the 2nd half also the week before you did.
I won't even bother with the better talent argument-way to subjective.

[CCParent]

SV will not wear down-they are probably the best conditioned team you will see-period.
Judson may have been the 4th best defense this year behind New Braunfels,Smithson Valley and Reagan.
SV shut down Judson completley in the 2nd half also the week before you did.
I won't even bother with the better talent argument-way to subjective. No use in showing up P-Ville is weak. I'm about tired of hearing how good SA is. The best football in the state is played in SA and not Houston, not DFW but SA. We all know this. Too many state champs to list here from last year alone.

[bobcat83]

No use in showing up P-Ville is weak. I'm about tired of hearing how good SA is. The best football in the state is played in SA and not Houston, not DFW but SA. We all know this. Too many state champs to list here from last year alone.

? what was this about? One of your people made a comment about Judson and I responded.

[CCParent]

You've been telling us all week how great football is in SA, what don't you understand?

[Wrecking Crew 12]

What's "OC."? You sure he's out?

OC stands for Opportunity Center. Basically all the kids that get kicked out of there schools in Pville ISD go there. And yes he is for sure out, and would agree if you knew what he did.

[bobcat83]

You've been telling us all week how great football is in SA, what don't you understand?
I just have defended SV and 265A each time someone has said something about P'Ville and or 255A.
You may want to re-read some of the posts.
I do know how big,fast,overwhelming P'Ville's defense can be etc...But those little boys from the Hill Country north of SA are pretty good themselves.That's all I am saying.I have never once said anything about SV winning any championship-because they haven't.
But D-Train wants to say this and that about P'Ville then I/we will compliment out team(s).
Football in 265A has been pretty good over the last 4-5 years and has handled the Austin area teams pretty well.I also know P'Ville wasn't in that district.

[TexasRed6x]

SV will not wear down-they are probably the best conditioned team you will see-period.
Judson may have been the 4th best defense this year behind New Braunfels,Smithson Valley and Reagan.
SV shut down Judson completley in the 2nd half also the week before you did.
I won't even bother with the better talent argument-way to subjective.


That maybe to low I think they could have been the best, they held SV to under 200 yards and that is pretty impresive to say the least. Only two teams have more than 200 yards and that is Carroll and PV for the whole year.

[d-train]

That maybe to low I think they could have been the best, they held SV to under 200 yards and that is pretty impresive to say the least. Only two teams have more than 200 yards and that is Carroll and PV for the whole year.
I like 26-5A, they are like 14-5A with P-ville, Leander, Round Rock, SP, G-town and CP...

[TexasRed6x]

I like 26-5A, they are like 14-5A with P-ville, Leander, Round Rock, SP, G-town and CP...

I do as well I do not like the fact that Judson was moved and tonight will be interesting. We might not feel the full effect until next week if we can get that far. I am hoping during the next realignment that we can pick up NB and SV in the district, It was truly bring as a fan to watch most of the games in district 275A.

[bobcat83]

That maybe to low I think they could have been the best, they held SV to under 200 yards and that is pretty impresive to say the least. Only two teams have more than 200 yards and that is Carroll and PV for the whole year.


Might be too low but... SV's offense wasn't very good then and Judson's district is pretty weak. So it's really hard to tell.Hopefully they are ready.I for one will never doubt them. I thought for sure Marcus Wright would run wild in the playoffs last year.We all know what happened.

[bobcat83]

Good luck to both in the game. Let's hope it's well played and without injuries so the winner can go on to bigger and better things.
Unfortunatley a very good team is going to go home.It's going to be tough on those boys-specially the seniors. Be supportive and let them know how proud you are of them!

[chop44]

Well said Bob. I totally agree. By the way, the wind sure is howling in Pville right now. Heading off to the RR game. I will send you a note after the game tomorrow. Best of luck.

[CKE]

No use in showing up P-Ville is weak. I'm about tired of hearing how good SA is. The best football in the state is played in SA and not Houston, not DFW but SA. We all know this. Too many state champs to list here from last year alone.

At least you finally see it....stop your crying already :rolleyes:

[CCParent]

:notworthyStop your bragging already.:notworthy We bow to you.:notworthy

[CKE]

:notworthyStop your bragging already.:notworthy We bow to you.:notworthy

bout time

[CCParent]

Madison 13- Bowie 14 4th. Westlake 28- Roosevelt-0. Stony Point 13 Langham creek -0. Round Rock 10 Cy-Ridge 26 in the 4th.

[CKE]

Well here's how the local newspapers see it:

1. SA Express-News:
Favorite: Smithson Valley (9-1). The Rangers are beatable, perhaps this week by Pflugerville. Until it happens, we’ll give them the benefit of the doubt.
2. Austin American-Statesman:
QUARTERBACK

Pflugerville's Chris Mercado has only 45 pass attempts in the Panthers' run-dominated offense, though six of those have been touchdowns. Smithson Valley's Jacob Brown has 1,267 yards and 11 touchdowns, but also seven interceptions.

Edge: Smithson Valley

OTHER OFFENSE

Pflugerville doesn't have a runner with more than 700 yards but does have five rushers with 30 or more carries this season, led by Storm Woods' 683 yards and 8 touchdowns. Trey Reinhart leads Smithson Valley with 818 yards.

Edge: Pflugerville Nope Pflugerville does not score one TD against SV on offense

DEFENSE

The Panthers rode their defense to last year's state championship game, and the defense is putting up even better numbers this year, allowing 14.5 ppg in 2008, compared to 20.8 in 2007. Last week against San Antonio Roosevelt, Smithson Valley allowed only one score in four Roosevelt trips to the red zone.

Edge: PflugervilleNope Sv did not allow the Panther offense to score a TD

SPECIAL TEAMS

Justin Garelick is one of Central Texas' top kickers, including a pair of 47-yard field goals, and Pflugerville teammate Sammy Flowers returned a kickoff 99 yards against Bowie. Taylor Cowart has kicked three field goals in the past three weeks for Smithson Valley.

Edge: PflugervilleNope Sv pinned Pflugerville inside the 10 every single time they punted and played such good field position that the Pflugerville kicker that can kick a 50 yarder did not even get a chance to do it

INTANGIBLES

Pflugerville has nine starters back from last year's Class 5A Division II runners-up, though only one — center Joe Hurtado — is on offense. Panthers defensive end Alex Okafor has committed to Texas. Smithson Valley, which has made it to two state finals this decade, hasn't lost since a 10-7 setback to San Antonio Reagan on Sept. 11.

Edge: PflugervilleNope last years team does not matter this year...apparently

OUR PICKS

Rick Cantu: Pflugerville wrong

Danny Davis: Pflugerville and wrong

In ranger blue

[TexasRed6x]

In ranger blue

Nice win for SV I feel that this will put them in the semis

Good luck Rangers bring home the title this year!!!!!!

[Aggies2009]

LOL Pfluggy!

After all the smack you guys talk, how does a first round exit taste?

[Grlslvftball2]

LOL Pfluggy!

After all the smack you guys talk, how does a first round exit taste?





wow...how mature:rolleyes:

[Aggies2009]

wow...how mature:rolleyes:

Yeah, I guess all the trash talk PVille does on other team's forums before and after games IS mature. :notworthy They've done it for as long as I can remember.

[Grlslvftball2]

Yeah, I guess all the trash talk PVille does on other team's forums before and after games IS mature. :notworthy They've done it for as long as I can remember.


and then's when you should step up and win gracefully:cool:

What was the score anyway? I can't find it

[AE 8008]

and then's when you should step up and win gracefully:cool:

What was the score anyway? I can't find it

14-7 sv


and thats post #3000

[MADFAN#1]

Game dominated by both defenses. I don't think PV crossed the SV 50 more than twice all game. PV defense also was outstanding. Very disciplined on the SV reverses and counters. It was a great game if you like defense and boring if you like offense. But I'm sure SV will take a boring 14-7 defensive struggle all day. Looks like THE 265 will be 3 and 1 against the 255. Reagan up 24 - 14. Hope SV's RB is okay. :)

[Grlslvftball2]

14-7 sv


and thats post #3000



do I win a prize?:D

[AE 8008]

do I win a prize?:D

http://www.petesweets.com/ProdImages/jumbo_cookie_basket.jpg

[caesarscott]

hard to play 11 on 17

[CKE]

hard to play 11 on 17

And here it comes:rolleyes:

SV got its fair share of bad calls as well with the fumble in the 2nd quarter being run into the end zone that was blown dead..And jumping offside on 4th and 2 with 3 min remaining in the game was your team not the refs....SV won playing our 11 guys against your 11 guys and it should have been 21-0 since d-train does not like to count turnovers as a real state in football

[caesarscott]

And here it comes:rolleyes:

SV got its fair share of bad calls as well with the fumble in the 2nd quarter being run into the end zone that was blown dead..And jumping offside on 4th and 2 with 3 min remaining in the game was your team not the refs....SV won playing our 11 guys against your 11 guys and it should have been 21-0 since d-train does not like to count turnovers as a real state in footballyou can believe that if you want to. the false start eventually cost the game. but the refs were completly one sided.

[CKE]

you can believe that if you want to. the false start eventually cost the game. but the refs were completly one sided.

bring on the excuses I don't mind...i'll still be watching football next week.Sv was the better team by far today. Pfluger did not pass the 50 more than 2 times the whole game and never even got in field goal range when they did.The right team is moving on

[CCParent]

And here it comes:rolleyes:

SV got its fair share of bad calls as well with the fumble in the 2nd quarter being run into the end zone that was blown dead..And jumping offside on 4th and 2 with 3 min remaining in the game was your team not the refs....SV won playing our 11 guys against your 11 guys and it should have been 21-0 since d-train does not like to count turnovers as a real state in footballThat's totally different, we don't claim d-train.

[CKE]

That's totally different, we don't claim d-train.

And you are smart for that...21-7 then

[saMavsFan]

I'd just like to say that I called this game perfectly. P'ville had the defense to keep this from becoming a blowout and SV's defense held them all game. SV's offense held the ball and controlled the pace of the entire game.

Where's my prize. I want a cookie basket too!:D

[Grlslvftball2]

I'd just like to say that I called this game perfectly. P'ville had the defense to keep this from becoming a blowout and SV's defense held them all game. SV's offense held the ball and controlled the pace of the entire game.

Where's my prize. I want a cookie basket too!:D



You can have my cookie basket, I want something better, after all it was his #3000;).........ahhhhh, post.

[MADFAN#1]

you can believe that if you want to. the false start eventually cost the game. but the refs were completly one sided.

I was at that game and did not have a dog in the fight. Didn't think the officiating was terribly bad either way. Both teams had reason to complain so in the end it was a wash. You lost because your offense could not move the ball. Period.

[AE 8008]

You can have my cookie basket, I want something better, after all it was his #3000;).........ahhhhh, post.

you know you want my cookies (:eek:)

[svhorns]

I'm glad round 1 is over... all of my picks were correct... with SV beating P-Ville, Reagan beating Austin, and Madison winning against Bowie... I had Westlake beating Roosy also... sorry bout that my fellow 26-5ers but Westlake has a good team...

on to round 2... let this thread die!!!

[bobcat83]

hard to play 11 on 17

Mr Caesar-go watch the film and then comment.And yes I have already watched it-twice.What POTENTIALLY cost them the game was the fact that they couldn't throw the ball or DEAL WITH ADVERSITY! The front 4 of P'Ville was phenominal and played with class.It seemed some of the other defensive players played like street thugs and talked way too much trash! Offensively the QB,RB's got real frustrated because they were getting no where and getting hit by 4-5 guys.Ya'll seem to blame it on the coaches but some of this is on the boys and their attitudes-period.
They could have called numerous unsportsman like penalties on P'Ville.One kept the drive alive for the first score as your DB shoved the WR down out of bounds and the play was going the other way.Then he throws his arms up and waves-"WHAT"
SV knew they were going to have bad plays and adversity against that defense.But they didn't fall apart.Now either you didn't play close enough attention to what was going on or you don't know football.Take your pick.
The better COMPOSED team won-period.

[chop44]

Bobcat and other SV fans. Congrats on your win yesterday the better team won. I was very impressed with your QB as he threw well into and with the wind. #4 has great hands. Defense is a swarming bunch that brings the wood. Our Offense couldn't do anything and we had poor field position all day (winning the coin toss was imprtant for you). Wish you guys the best the rest of the way and I will be pulling for you. Will try to catch a game as well. Met the parent of one of you DL at a restaurant after the game, very nice fella. Told me about your RB injury...one tough kid. Backup RB did a good job. Later.

[Humphrey]

Chop,

That was the toughest defensive team I can remember the Rangers facing. Every yard was hard fought. Your d-line sniffed out any attempt at mis-direction and really put SV on their heels. I have read a great deal about the poor coaching, the only evidence I saw of that was the lack of self discipline the players exhibited during a few key moments. Otherwise, it appeared that he had done his homework against SV's running attack. That little end around has been a staple for this team for quite a while, your coach keyed on it and completely shut it down. Both teams played hard. You should be proud.

[chop44]

Thanks. I agree with you that our coaching staff is way better than average. Again, good luck the rest of the way.

[CKE]

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[SVite]

you can believe that if you want to. the false start eventually cost the game. but the refs were completly one sided.

How about that first PV long run in the 1st qrt. where the refs picked up not one, but 2 flags, and waved them off.

If it were`nt for the wind, you would have really seen some offense against your beloved pv team. The elements were all lined up for your team to pull off the upset, but did`nt get er done!;)

[CCParent]

How about that first PV long run in the 1st qrt. where the refs picked up not one, but 2 flags, and waved them off.

If it were`nt for the wind, you would have really seen some offense against your beloved pv team. The elements were all lined up for your team to pull off the upset, but did`nt get er done!;)
Shoulda,coulda,woulda but you still had less offense.:notworthy

[CKE]

Shoulda,coulda,woulda but you still had less offense.:notworthy

While the the P-ville offense still had less points and did not even cross the SV 40 yard line on ten possesions....congrats on 208 yards between your goal line and 60 yards out.:notworthy

[CCParent]

While the the P-ville offense still had less points and did not even cross the SV 40 yard line on ten possesions....congrats on 208 yards between your goal line and 60 yards out.:notworthyQuickest wit? HA.

[chop44]

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http://media.mysanantonio.com/images/reel+111508+FBH+0117.jpg

This catch was the biggest play of the game.

[d-train]

As stated earlier, to much East & West running. Should have used more I-formation most of year. P-vile and Judson had the same problems, penalties and no passing game.