State Top 25 (Final)

[KT2000]

Here are the final rankings for 2008.

Final Top 25 Rankings (http://www.5atexasfootball.com/2008statewide_Top25_Final.htm)

Trinity goes wire to wire #1. We'll see if they finish the playoffs that way.

[CedarHillDad]

are the regional analysis coming out today?

[TrojanHorse03]

You forgot to mention Trinity would be the first of anyone's preseason number 1's to win state in 3 years to show what type of odds Trinity is up against :).

[ktchamp97]

are the regional analysis coming out today?
That is the goal.

[RedRage00]

13 from DFW! :notworthy

[ktchamp97]

I thought it might be interesting to look back at the Preseason Top 25 now that the final poll of the year has been released.

Final Rankings (Preseason Rank in parentheses):
1. Euless Trinity (1)
2. Allen (4)
3. Abilene (9)
4. Arlington Bowie (10)
5. North Shore (8)
6 Pearland (16)
7. FB Hightower (12)
8. Smithson Valley (18)
9. Colleyville Heritage (NR)
10. Round Rock Stony Point (22)
11. Odessa Permian (20)
12. The Woodlands (NR)
13. Plano (2)
14. Wylie (NR)
15. Lewisville Hebron (24)
16. Cedar Hill (23)
17. Lake Highlands (NR)
18. Dallas Skyline (7)
19. Naaman Forest (NR)
20. Southlake Carroll (5)
21. Garland (NR)
22. Klein Oak (NR)
23. Katy Cinco Ranch (NR)
24. SA Reagan (NR)
25. Converse Judson (3)

Preseason ranked teams that finished unranked (Preseason Rank in parentheses):
Spring Westfield (6), Lufkin (11), Eisenhower (13), Katy (14), FM Marcus (15), Pflugerville (17), Cy Ridge (19), Humble (21), Beaumont West Brook (25)

Looking at the above data, several thoughts come to mind...

- Five of our preseason Top 10 finished in the Top 10, with Plano just missing at #13 and Hightower just missing out initially (preseason #12). Overall, I'd think that would stack up pretty well to anyone else who is foolish enough to attempt to rank teams in May.

- 16 of our initial Top 25 are in the Final Top 25...again, that seems pretty decent.

- Of the teams that finished ranked, but were unranked in the preseason, Colleyville Heritage, The Woodlands, Wylie, and Lake Highlands were the biggest misses. Talent-wise, The Woodlands should have been in there to begin with, but it was hard to get past the 3-8 mark in '07. Heritage was tabbed as a playoff team from the beginning, while Wylie and Lake Highlands were monumental whiffs on our part.

- On the other side of the coin are the teams that we ranked to start with that finished unranked. Of the 9 teams that fell into this dubious category, 8 finished with winning records (Marcus was 5-5); all 9 made the playoffs; and one could make a strong case for 5 of them to be ranked right now.

All things considered, it looks like we did a fairly decent job of identifying the upper echelon of teams before the Class of '08 graduated. There's definitely room for improvement and that's one of the main reasons I like to look at stuff like this.

We say it over, and over, and over again, but we do these rankings simply because it's fun to talk about and it's a challenge to try and come up with something that makes some degree of sense. We are well aware of the fact that the rankings don't mean anything once the ball is kicked off, it's just something to help pass the time until that happens.

The next 6 weeks are the ultimate proving grounds and that's why we don't bother with rankings beyond the regular season. We do them in the preseason and during the season to try and stack the teams up leading up to and heading into the playoff season.

As a player, coach, parent, or fan, there's nothing quite like a dramatic playoff run. I encourage everyone to go out and see as many playoff games as they possibly can even if your team's not involved this time around.

I hope you've enjoyed the rankings for what they are and I promise you that we'll continue to work to get better at assessing the state's elite.

[trojanbacker]

You guys do a great job with the rankings every year. Trinity has victories over three of the top 16 which is no easy road, that's for sure.

[cougmantx]

It's amazing to me to see Katy going into the playoffs unranked. I agree with the admins but I don't think I have ever seen Katy in the playoffs without being ranked. This has been a very unusall year all the way around. Good luck to all the teams as we head into the real season.

[JWIL50]

time 4 hightower 2 run the table see ya n the 2nd round north shore

[TheDarkSide15]

Mojo almost loses to MHS and doesnt drop...???

I like it! Good job this year guys.

after watching smithson valley though... I know that team isnt better than Permian.

Good luck to everyone in the playoffs.

Go Mojo. Time for some five-0

[ktchamp97]

Mojo almost loses to MHS and doesnt drop...???

I like it! Good job this year guys.

after watching smithson valley though... I know that team isnt better than Permian.

Good luck to everyone in the playoffs.

Go Mojo. Time for some five-0
Smithson Valley is never flashy, they just win games...lots of them in fact.

That being said, you may very well be right, but we'll never know.

[CKE]

Mojo almost loses to MHS and doesnt drop...???

I like it! Good job this year guys.

after watching smithson valley though... I know that team isnt better than Permian.

Good luck to everyone in the playoffs.

Go Mojo. Time for some five-0

After watching SV and Permian..I know that Sv is better.....



see how much mine and your opinion really matter :rolleyes:

[CKE]

I do love how SA Regan won district and ranked 24th while SV is 8th :D

[TheDarkSide15]

After watching SV and Permian..I know that Sv is better.....



see how much mine and your opinion really matter :rolleyes:

yeah, its just my opinion... am I not allowed to give it?

[CKE]

yeah, its just my opinion... am I not allowed to give it?
I didn't say that...that's why I think SV would beat Permian IMO

[TheDarkSide15]

ok, thats fine.. but you didnt have to add the last part my friend.

[CKE]

ok, thats fine.. but you didnt have to add the last part my friend.

Might have come off a little rude. My bad home slice

[TheDarkSide15]

I still love you

[Trinity Trojan Fan For Li]

WOW! Only 3 teams in the top 25 are undefeated - Trinity, Abilene, and Odessa Permian.

[CKE]

I still love you
I was going to but something very yard like after this but decided against it :D

[TheDarkSide15]

dont be afraid to tell me... its brotherly love man... Obama isnt in charge yet.

[fitz400]

WOW! Only 3 teams in the top 25 are undefeated - Trinity, Abilene, and Odessa Permian.

actually there are 6

[CKE]

dont be afraid to tell me... its brotherly love man... Obama isnt in charge yet.

LMAO :notworthy

[RedRage00]

LMAO :notworthy

You know you'll get banned for posting something Yard-Like in the Main Forum lol

[CKE]

You know you'll get banned for posting something Yard-Like in the Main Forum lol

I know..it was hard to hold back

[bobcat83]

Smithson Valley is never flashy, they just win games...lots of them in fact.

That being said, you may very well be right, but we'll never know.

SV loves to be considered "non flashy"-they just win.And I do believe they could compete with Permian.
But KT is right we will never know

[3rd Generation Katy]

It's amazing to me to see Katy going into the playoffs unranked. I agree with the admins but I don't think I have ever seen Katy in the playoffs without being ranked. This has been a very unusall year all the way around. Good luck to all the teams as we head into the real season.

Hey Cougmantx,

My dad graduated in 56, me in 81 and my son in 2007. My father tells me that some of Katy's best football came when we were the unknown. Just food for thought. Maybe we will get there this year the good old fashion Katy way,,,,, very quiet.......

[Hurricanes192]

WOW! Only 3 teams in the top 25 are undefeated - Trinity, Abilene, and Odessa Permian.
You forgot Northshore 5th Pearland 6th and finally Hightower 7th all with undefeted records

[RocketDad]

How did Judson show back up on the radar? I thought we were long discarded - memories of last year made a blip?

[Covedawg]

I know that these rankings are fun and get people cranked up. I just find it a little odd that you have Copperas Cove ranked #7 in week 8, and after a 4 point lost to a district rival, and then a blow out win in final game, you've dropped them completely out of the top 25.
We'll see, the playoffs will sort it all out.

[GoOwls]

I thought it might be interesting to look back at the Preseason Top 25 now that the final poll of the year has been released.

Final Rankings (Preseason Rank in parentheses):
1. Euless Trinity (1)
2. Allen (4)
3. Abilene (9)
4. Arlington Bowie (10)
5. North Shore (8)
6 Pearland (16)
7. FB Hightower (12)
8. Smithson Valley (18)
9. Colleyville Heritage (NR)
10. Round Rock Stony Point (22)
11. Odessa Permian (20)
12. The Woodlands (NR)
13. Plano (2)
14. Wylie (NR)
15. Lewisville Hebron (24)
16. Cedar Hill (23)
17. Lake Highlands (NR)
18. Dallas Skyline (7)
19. Naaman Forest (NR)
20. Southlake Carroll (5)
21. Garland (NR)
22. Klein Oak (NR)
23. Katy Cinco Ranch (NR)
24. SA Reagan (NR)
25. Converse Judson (3)

Preseason ranked teams that finished unranked (Preseason Rank in parentheses):
Spring Westfield (6), Lufkin (11), Eisenhower (13), Katy (14), FM Marcus (15), Pflugerville (17), Cy Ridge (19), Humble (21), Beaumont West Brook (25)

Looking at the above data, several thoughts come to mind...

- Five of our preseason Top 10 finished in the Top 10, with Plano just missing at #13 and Hightower just missing out initially (preseason #12). Overall, I'd think that would stack up pretty well to anyone else who is foolish enough to attempt to rank teams in May.

- 16 of our initial Top 25 are in the Final Top 25...again, that seems pretty decent.

- Of the teams that finished ranked, but were unranked in the preseason, Colleyville Heritage, The Woodlands, Wylie, and Lake Highlands were the biggest misses. Talent-wise, The Woodlands should have been in there to begin with, but it was hard to get past the 3-8 mark in '07. Heritage was tabbed as a playoff team from the beginning, while Wylie and Lake Highlands were monumental whiffs on our part.

- On the other side of the coin are the teams that we ranked to start with that finished unranked. Of the 9 teams that fell into this dubious category, 8 finished with winning records (Marcus was 5-5); all 9 made the playoffs; and one could make a strong case for 5 of them to be ranked right now.

All things considered, it looks like we did a fairly decent job of identifying the upper echelon of teams before the Class of '08 graduated. There's definitely room for improvement and that's one of the main reasons I like to look at stuff like this.

We say it over, and over, and over again, but we do these rankings simply because it's fun to talk about and it's a challenge to try and come up with something that makes some degree of sense. We are well aware of the fact that the rankings don't mean anything once the ball is kicked off, it's just something to help pass the time until that happens.

The next 6 weeks are the ultimate proving grounds and that's why we don't bother with rankings beyond the regular season. We do them in the preseason and during the season to try and stack the teams up leading up to and heading into the playoff season.

As a player, coach, parent, or fan, there's nothing quite like a dramatic playoff run. I encourage everyone to go out and see as many playoff games as they possibly can even if your team's not involved this time around.

I hope you've enjoyed the rankings for what they are and I promise you that we'll continue to work to get better at assessing the state's elite.

Since you didn't list Naaman and Garland as your biggest misses of the 9 unranked teams, where would you probably have had them in your pre-season rankings.......30's, 40's, 50's.....thanks...;)

[coveaggie]

I know that these rankings are fun and get people cranked up. I just find it a little odd that you have Copperas Cove ranked #7 in week 8, and after a 4 point lost to a district rival, and then a blow out win in final game, you've dropped them completely out of the top 25.
We'll see, the playoffs will sort it all out.

Yea we dropped completly out of the rankings (from 7th to unranked) after that loss. Thats the only real problem i have with these rankings still. Everything else looks alright