Latest bowl projections

[lonny23]

I'll start with CBS. I know I picked this title game to start the year, but I'd sure hate for it to happen now. On the other hand, I'd love the Fiesta and Cotton Bowls!:p

http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/bowls/predictions

Here is the ESPN guys. For once, I'll root for these guys to be right!:D The Fiesta and Cotton don't look much better here!:D I wouldn't pick against the Big 12 in the Holiday or Alamo Bowls, either. You might have a non-Big 12 shot in the Sun and Insight, though.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/bowlprojection?season=2008&week=11

[wesaxman34]

I will pissed off if we play Ohio State in our bowl game. I didn't want to see them in the NC game, and I sure as hell don't want to waste our time playing them ourselves.

[Favpack]

This is one reason why I root for Tech now. I like Tech fine, Texas somewhat more - but I root for Texas schools. Texas gets screwed twice if OU beats Tech.

How absurd is it to beat a team on a neutral site by two scores and then look up at them in the standings with an identical record?

Texas was a missed INT from beating Tech on the road, Florida loses to home to a team that would be doing good to beat Baylor. How fair is that?

[lonny23]

This is one reason why I root for Tech now. I like Tech fine, Texas somewhat more - but I root for Texas schools. Texas gets screwed twice if OU beats Tech.

How absurd is it to beat a team on a neutral site by two scores and then look up at them in the standings with an identical record?

Texas was a missed INT from beating Tech on the road, Florida loses to home to a team that would be doing good to beat Baylor. How fair is that?It's not fair. As much as I hate UT and OU, I'll be mad if either gets gyped out of a BCS bid and it's probably going to happen to somebody.

I'm tired of the Florida and USC hype. I know they're good, but it's their fault for losing. I'll be equally mad if 'bama and Tech go 12-0 and don't play for a title because they lost a Conference Championship Game.

[lonny23]

I will pissed off if we play Ohio State in our bowl game. I didn't want to see them in the NC game, and I sure as hell don't want to waste our time playing them ourselves.
I hate Ohio State. I'll be glad to beat them if we don't go to Miami. I already sent in my request for a BCS bowl and I'll go to any of them Tech plays in.

[patient1019]

Texas or OU getting screwed out of a BCS bowl will cause a schism in the college football world where humans will lose trust not only in the BCS computers, but also in such technologies as cell phones, microwaves, nose hair trimmers, juicers, and other commonplace electronics. Ultimately the divide between man and machine will become so vast that they shall have no choice but to battle each other for supremacy as well as survival.

[Mhs06]

Texas or OU getting screwed out of a BCS bowl will cause a schism in the college football world where humans will lose trust not only in the BCS computers, but also in such technologies as cell phones, microwaves, nose hair trimmers, juicers, and other commonplace electronics. Ultimately the divide between man and machine will become so vast that they shall have no choice but to battle each other for supremacy as well as survival.

This....?

[patient1019]

This....?

Another reason why the BCS must be abolished. Before it conquers us all.

[stevefoxsc]

been a lot of talk about getting around the bcs fans want it, coaches are stating to want, **** even the president hates it.

[lonny23]

been a lot of talk about getting around the bcs fans want it, coaches are stating to want, **** even the president hates it.
The bad part is having to play your conference again in the playoffs.

[PeterGibbons]

been a lot of talk about getting around the bcs fans want it, coaches are stating to want, **** even the president hates it.

I wonder if he'll try to redistribute the wealth to to the non-BCS schools? :ninja:

I personally don't have a problem with the bowl system, no matter what happens there will be flaws so they might as well let 20-something teams end their seasons on a win.

[tayb]

I couldn't imagine a scenario where Tech would be picked over Texas for a BCS bowl regardless of the BCS rankings or head-to-head records. It's all about ratings not what would be the best game.

[dragons08]

Lonny, did you go to Tech?

[lonny23]

I couldn't imagine a scenario where Tech would be picked over Texas for a BCS bowl regardless of the BCS rankings or head-to-head records. It's all about ratings not what would be the best game.
In a BCS bowl:

Texas brings more fans.
Texas Tech brings better ratings.

That Texas-Texas Tech game last week was the 5th most watched regular season college game in history.

[lonny23]

Lonny, did you go to Tech?
No, I went to college for free for a few years, didn't want to get any student loans for the last 2 years, and joined the Air Force. One of these days, I'll retire from the Air Force and I might head to Lubbock for a Master's degree.

In both cases, my decisions were based upon making a good living. That always trumps personal goals.

[JMSFan]

In a BCS bowl:

Texas brings more fans.
Texas Tech brings better ratings.

That Texas-Texas Tech game last week was the 5th most watched regular season college game in history.


Where did you come up with this?

[lonny23]

Where did you come up with this?
It was mentioned on the internet a couple days after the game.

Coorection, it was the #5 regular season game on ABC.

http://www.star-telegram.com/sports/story/1020670.html
http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/11/02/saturday-texas-tech-red-raiders-down-texas-longhorns-and-average-almost-11-million-viewers/7394

It was the #7 regular season game ever.

http://newsok.com/big-12-college-football-ratings-watch/article/3319164

[dragons08]

Where did you come up with this?

I've heard that same thing, except for ABC/ESPN via ESPN radio on GAC (galloway and company)

[JMSFan]

It was mentioned on the internet a couple days after the game.

Coorection, it was the #5 regular season game on ABC.

http://www.star-telegram.com/sports/story/1020670.html
http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/11/02/saturday-texas-tech-red-raiders-down-texas-longhorns-and-average-almost-11-million-viewers/7394

Ok, that sounds a little bit more reasonable.
I still wonder about it being 7th ever. Maybe so.

[lonny23]

Ok, that sounds a little bit more reasonable.
I still wonder about it being 7th ever. Maybe so.
Another thing is even before this year bowl organizers have desired Tech because they're exciting to watch and the bowls could publicize the team.

[lonny23]

Ok, that sounds a little bit more reasonable.
I still wonder about it being 7th ever. Maybe so.
I can see it:

1. We're talking about Saturday night and a timeslot when people start to settle down for the night.
2. People with families will be at home.
3. People in a money crunch will stay home more instead of going out as much.

[JMSFan]

Another thing is even before this year bowl organizers have desired Tech because they're exciting to watch and the bowls could publicize the team.

True. This year most all the Big 12 teams are exciting.

[dragons08]

I can see it:

1. We're talking about Saturday night and a timeslot when people start to settle down for the night.
2. People with families will be at home.
3. People in a money crunch will stay home more instead of going out as much.

Plus Texas being number 1, and how "hyped" Tech is being especially with players like Harrell and Crabtree. Then the talk during the week of Tech getting rowdy and the black out, and all the other stuff. This game had a lot of interest, and lived up to the hype ending on the last second play like that.

[JMSFan]

I can see it:

1. We're talking about Saturday night and a timeslot when people start to settle down for the night.
2. People with families will be at home.
3. People in a money crunch will stay home more instead of going out as much.

I understand that, but I can think of a handful of regular season games in the past that have had just as much, or more importance.

Florida State/Miami is one of the first to think of, then you could go with most all the RRS games. Even the OSU/Michigan games.

[yankee]

i wish my team played in a high school stadium...

[lonny23]

i wish my team played in a high school stadium...
I really don't care where they play. I'd go to Lowery Field if I had to.

[JMSFan]

i wish my team played in a high school stadium...

Ouch.

[dragons08]

i wish my team played in a high school stadium...

Gotta admit, it's nice than Cowboys stadium though..

[yankee]

Gotta admit, it's nice than Cowboys stadium though..

sfa's stadium is nicer than that dump...although i love texas stadium...

[lonny23]

sfa's stadium is nicer than that dump...although i love texas stadium...
I won't say Jones is the best in the Big 12, but don't get crazy about your analysis.

[pied]

One thing that seems odd about Jones to me is the bowing of the stands relative to the field. Appears there was likely a track there at some point, and I am assuming that they took it out. Not real smooth looking.

[tayb]

In a BCS bowl:

Texas brings more fans.
Texas Tech brings better ratings.

That Texas-Texas Tech game last week was the 5th most watched regular season college game in history.

That game had great ratings because Texas was playing in it. How were the ratings this past weekend against Oklahoma State?

Texas brings the ratings and there are only a select number of schools that have a bigger draw nationwide and Tech isn't one of them.

[JMSFan]

That game had great ratings because Texas was playing in it. How were the ratings this past weekend against Oklahoma State?

Texas brings the ratings and there are only a select number of schools that have a bigger draw nationwide and Tech isn't one of them.

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[Dawg Fan]

UT lost....deal with it

[JMSFan]

UT lost....deal with it

Teach me how. I know Tech fans know how to do it.

The Longhorns lead the all-time series 42-15.

[Dawg Fan]

Teach me how. I know Tech fans know how to do it.

The Longhorns lead the all-time series 42-15.

you have taken the important first step.....losing

you just have to be smart enough to recognize it.


BTW moral victory denied

[JMSFan]

you have taken the important first step.....losing

you just have to be smart enough to recognize it.


BTW moral victory denied

Be smart enough to realize that this is the first time that Tech has been considered relevant. And probably the only time.
You know who the 2 teams are that rule the Big 12.

[Dawg Fan]

Be smart enough to realize that this is the first time that Tech has been considered relevant. And probably the only time.
You know who the 2 teams are that rule the Big 12.

not today they don't

[JMSFan]

not today they don't

Like I said, the first time.

[Dawg Fan]

Like I said, the first time.

everyone has to start sometime and you really need to stop living in the past

[JMSFan]

everyone has to start sometime and you really need to stop living in the past

Yea, like 2 weeks ago. :D

[Dawg Fan]

Yea, like 2 weeks ago. :D


denial is your friend;)

[JMSFan]

The Longhorns lead the all-time series 42-15.

Leach is 1-7 against Texas.

[Dawg Fan]

The Longhorns lead the all-time series 42-15.

and that means what this year?

[JMSFan]

and that means what this year?

You are sounding like aggy more and more. The way the fans stormed the field that night, you would have thought it was their national championship game.

[jrock210]

I am really disappointed at seeing Florida up there in the Title game but, in all honesty, I don't see Tech losing to OU. It will be a shoot out but Tech will pull it off. I mean they got Crabs you know.

I wish we had a playoff because he Big 12 deserves either Tech vs Texas or OU vs Tech or even OU vs Texas in the title game :eek::eek::eek:
these 3 teams could win the national championship if they were around last season and if Texas gets the chance again I think they could beat Tech (homer pick oh well)

As for Ohio St, I think Texas, and any of the other top 5 teams in the Big 12 could beat the Buckeyes.

Is it fair that CBS predicts OU to play for the title when both Texas and OU are one loss teams and OU lost to Texas but they go to the title game? I guess the Fiesta Bowl wouldn't be so bad though...

[Dawg Fan]

You are sounding like aggy more and more. The way the fans stormed the field that night, you would have thought it was their national championship game.


you worry about the goofiest things. Get a grip and join us here today and move on. This is really not healthy for you to dwell on this stuff;)

[JMSFan]

you worry about the goofiest things. Get a grip and join us here today and move on. This is really not healthy for you to dwell on this stuff;)

:Music not listening to you.

[JMSFan]

I am really disappointed at seeing Florida up there in the Title game but, in all honesty, I don't see Tech losing to OU. It will be a shoot out but Tech will pull it off. I mean they got Crabs you know.

I wish we had a playoff because he Big 12 deserves either Tech vs Texas or OU vs Tech or even OU vs Texas in the title game :eek::eek::eek:
these 3 teams could win the national championship if they were around last season and if Texas gets the chance again I think they could beat Tech (homer pick oh well)

As for Ohio St, I think Texas, and any of the other top 5 teams in the Big 12 could beat the Buckeyes.

Is it fair that CBS predicts OU to play for the title when both Texas and OU are one loss teams and OU lost to Texas but they go to the title game? I guess the Fiesta Bowl wouldn't be so bad though...

I know I want the playoff system. This years top 8 or even top 12 twelve teams would amount to a great playoff series.

[tayb]

UT lost....deal with it

It has nothing to do with UT having lost the game and I have already given Tech their credit for the win. The point is I have a hard time believing that Tech would be chosen over Texas for a BCS at-large bid regardless of the head-to-head record. If it was who would be more deserving between the two we could have an argument but it is over what team will cause the highest ratings and Tech definitely is not that team.

And the CBS thing is kind of ridiculous anyways... they give Tech the benefit of the doubt into the Sugar Bowl or w/e it was due to their head-to-head win over Texas, which is understandable, but at the same time they put Oklahoma into the title game disregarding their head-to-head loss to Texas.

[jrock210]

It has nothing to do with UT having lost the game and I have already given Tech their credit for the win. The point is I have a hard time believing that Tech would be chosen over Texas for a BCS at-large bid regardless of the head-to-head record. If it was who would be more deserving between the two we could have an argument but it is over what team will cause the highest ratings and Tech definitely is not that team.

And the CBS thing is kind of ridiculous anyways... they give Tech the benefit of the doubt into the Sugar Bowl or w/e it was due to their head-to-head win over Texas, which is understandable, but at the same time they put Oklahoma into the title game disregarding their head-to-head loss to Texas.

That was my whole point on saying CBS polls need to be overlooked....

[Dawg Fan]

It has nothing to do with UT having lost the game and I have already given Tech their credit for the win. The point is I have a hard time believing that Tech would be chosen over Texas for a BCS at-large bid regardless of the head-to-head record. If it was who would be more deserving between the two we could have an argument but it is over what team will cause the highest ratings and Tech definitely is not that team.

And the CBS thing is kind of ridiculous anyways... they give Tech the benefit of the doubt into the Sugar Bowl or w/e it was due to their head-to-head win over Texas, which is understandable, but at the same time they put Oklahoma into the title game disregarding their head-to-head loss to Texas.

you know that post wasn't directed at you

[patient1019]

everyone has to start sometime and you really need to stop living in the past

Hilarious talk coming from an aggy.

[lonny23]

One thing that seems odd about Jones to me is the bowing of the stands relative to the field. Appears there was likely a track there at some point, and I am assuming that they took it out. Not real smooth looking.Yes, they took it out.

[lonny23]

That game had great ratings because Texas was playing in it. How were the ratings this past weekend against Oklahoma State?

Texas brings the ratings and there are only a select number of schools that have a bigger draw nationwide and Tech isn't one of them.
The ratings were off the chart in OKC and very high in Austin. I guess even the locals know a good thing when they see it!:p

[lonny23]

The Longhorns lead the all-time series 42-15.

Leach is 1-7 against Texas.
Leach has beat Texas twice.

[patient1019]

The ratings were off the chart in OKC and very high in Austin. I guess even the locals know a good thing when they see it!:p

All those Austinites who tuned in hoping for a Tech loss...

[lonny23]

It has nothing to do with UT having lost the game and I have already given Tech their credit for the win. The point is I have a hard time believing that Tech would be chosen over Texas for a BCS at-large bid regardless of the head-to-head record. If it was who would be more deserving between the two we could have an argument but it is over what team will cause the highest ratings and Tech definitely is not that team.

And the CBS thing is kind of ridiculous anyways... they give Tech the benefit of the doubt into the Sugar Bowl or w/e it was due to their head-to-head win over Texas, which is understandable, but at the same time they put Oklahoma into the title game disregarding their head-to-head loss to Texas.
UT gets better ratings in Texas. I'm pretty sure the other 280 million people would rather see Tech more than Texas. The rest of the country has never been exposed to Tech very much, but rest assured they have a style of football that is appealing to bowls. Even my buddy in New Jersey watched the Tech-Texas game and it wasn't because of Texas. I talked to another good friend in Minnesota on Saturday and he likes how Tech plays, too. Those guys aren't from Texas, either. They like Wisconsin and Penn State.

The Gator Bowl took Tech in January because of how they play. It wasn't because Tech was going to bring the most fans.

[lonny23]

All those Austinites who tuned in hoping for a Tech loss...
I know they were hoping Tech would lose. The paper even said so. Austin did have better ratings than DFW. Overall, the OSU game didn't draw quite as well, but it was also a blowout and wasn't a 100% national game. It only went to like 82% of the country, but still had pretty good ratings.

[BoomerSooner]

This is one reason why I root for Tech now. I like Tech fine, Texas somewhat more - but I root for Texas schools. Texas gets screwed twice if OU beats Tech.

How absurd is it to beat a team on a neutral site by two scores and then look up at them in the standings with an identical record?

Texas was a missed INT from beating Tech on the road, Florida loses to home to a team that would be doing good to beat Baylor. How fair is that?

Not that absurd when you consider that Oklahoma will have beaten the team Texas lost to, and will have a better out of conference slate of games. Once again, no matter how you spin it, one team gets screwed.

Then again, this will all be moot if OU loses to either Tech or OSU. Which isn't unrealistic at all...

[BoomerSooner]

I am really disappointed at seeing Florida up there in the Title game but, in all honesty, I don't see Tech losing to OU. It will be a shoot out but Tech will pull it off. I mean they got Crabs you know.

I wish we had a playoff because he Big 12 deserves either Tech vs Texas or OU vs Tech or even OU vs Texas in the title game :eek::eek::eek:
these 3 teams could win the national championship if they were around last season and if Texas gets the chance again I think they could beat Tech (homer pick oh well)

As for Ohio St, I think Texas, and any of the other top 5 teams in the Big 12 could beat the Buckeyes.

Is it fair that CBS predicts OU to play for the title when both Texas and OU are one loss teams and OU lost to Texas but they go to the title game? I guess the Fiesta Bowl wouldn't be so bad though...

Florida is playing some great football right now. Of all the teams I wouldn't want to play for the national championship, they are FAR and away #1.

[JMSFan]

Leach has beat Texas twice.

Correction noted. 2 wins 7 losses.

[JMSFan]

Florida is playing some great football right now. Of all the teams I wouldn't want to play for the national championship, they are FAR and away #1.

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[Dawg Fan]

What difference does it make who is in the championship game? IMO you have to be able to beat the best to claim you are the best.