Time to Get Real Cove vs Garland [Archive]

poolangel

11-22-2005, 01:45 PM

Well it sounds like most of us have had enough trash talk for now. I saw that both teams have fans that love them and will be there to support them. This is an awesome thing! I know it will be a tough game between 2 good teams that deserve to be there. It's really sad that one of the teams will not move on. Either way, good luck to all. There's nothing like Texas High School Football! Thanks to all the fans of Texas. Go Mighty Dawgs & Owls.

FootballJunkie

11-22-2005, 01:49 PM

Tired of trash talk already...and it's only Tuesday. Still 2 1/2 days worth to go!! :D

grayowl60

11-22-2005, 01:52 PM

Tired of trash talk already...and it's only Tuesday. Still 2 1/2 days worth to go!! :D
Yes, lets talk some football now lol. OWLS WILL WIN!

FootballJunkie

11-22-2005, 01:55 PM

Yes, lets talk some football now lol. OWLS WILL WIN!

See...you are still talking trash or at least untruths ;)

garlandowl08

11-22-2005, 01:58 PM

cc06football1

11-22-2005, 02:08 PM

CCDawgs05

11-22-2005, 02:15 PM

Good one...nt :p

Both teams have claimed pretty good team speed.
Garland's passing is not our #1 weapon, but we can keep the safties honest, how is Cove's passing game
Our running offense helps us control the clock...can Cove score fast?
Garland has battled back before many times this season, how is Cove when they are behind?

well cove wont just sit there and pick u apart with our passing game....we like throwing the deep ball with fade routes and everything

cove can score really fast....versus harker heights we scored 21 points on 3 minutes

vs. Judson we were down 19-13 with a minute left and drove and won the game 20-19 with 4 seconds left....well in the waco game we werent really behind but handled the pressure great in the 3OT win....harker heights we were down by three headed into the fourth quarter and scored 21 points in 3 mins to take a 35-20 win....

overall, IMO, we have to get penetration from the dline cause garlands oline comes off the ball really low and hard....#40 is a hard nosed RB and a good runner....i think its up to the defense to get off the field in tough situations....but cove wins 28-14 IMO

grayowl60

11-22-2005, 02:19 PM

well cove wont just sit there and pick u apart with our passing game....we like throwing the deep ball with fade routes and everything

cove can score really fast....versus harker heights we scored 21 points on 3 minutes

vs. Judson we were down 19-13 with a minute left and drove and won the game 20-19 with 4 seconds left....well in the waco game we werent really behind but handled the pressure great in the 3OT win....harker heights we were down by three headed into the fourth quarter and scored 21 points in 3 mins to take a 35-20 win....

overall, IMO, we have to get penetration from the dline cause garlands oline comes off the ball really low and hard....#40 is a hard nosed RB and a good runner....i think its up to the defense to get off the field in tough situations....but cove wins 28-14 IMO
What offense does Cove run?

cc06football1

11-22-2005, 02:23 PM

We do everything you could possibly think. That is why were so good. Not to mention all our skill guys run 4.5 or better.

CCDawgs05

11-22-2005, 02:23 PM

i couldnt really tell ya cause i play defense....they run alot of I formation and thats all i really know.....ask some of the other cove fans and players about it

adcwalker

11-22-2005, 02:24 PM

Cove runs the ball well. The RB and QB are both very fast. Cove's QB can throw also. 2TD's last week came off of long TD passes. Cove's secondary can play anyone man to man. Defense is fast and flies to the ball. Most of the time it will be multiple Cove players making tackles. Cove can score fast. You can ask Klein Forrest and Leander both. In the Judson game they came back and scored a TD in the last 30 seconds of the game. They came back in the fourth quarter against Harker Heights also. Cove is a four quarter team. So far this season Cove has scored 454 points for a Per Game average of 38 per game. Cove's defense has only allowed 186 points this season for an average of 16 points per game. These include the last two playoff games. Cove is 9 Wins and 1 Lose at WISD Stadium in all of the games that they have played there.

I don't know much about Garland but that Garland is an old school with a lot of tradition. Both teams are apparently pretty good with playing in the third round of the playoffs. All of the questionable teams are gone by now. Should be a great game.

adcwalker

11-22-2005, 02:31 PM

Cove's offense will setup in the Power "I", Spread, One back, no backs, you name it. They have even in the past (years) ran some wishbone. The only thing I haven't seen them run is the Wing "T" but I bet they have it in the playbook. That is one of the things that makes Cove so dangerous is that they will give the defense many different looks.

dawgdude86

11-22-2005, 02:34 PM

What offense does Cove run?

The bread and butter for the Dawgs is the running game. Last week vs. Leander we rushed for 230+. We can and do put the ball in the air, but more to keep the D honest, we do it so little that it usually turns into a huge gain. We mainly run out of an offset I, but go to single set backfield, and shotgun often but can run effectivley out of all of them. QB does a great job with the option when we want to go that route.

wide-e-wide

11-22-2005, 02:39 PM

Is it possible to start another thread about this game?
Let's just ask ktchamp to change the name of the board until after
this week.

Garland/Covefootball.com

dawgdude86

11-22-2005, 02:44 PM

Is it possible to start another thread about this game?
Let's just ask ktchamp to change the name of the board until after
this week.

Garland/Covefootball.com

Its either talk about the game that matters to us, or sit back and read more SLC-Katy junk.
And it should read Cove/Garlandfootball.com

FootballJunkie

11-22-2005, 02:44 PM

Is it possible to start another thread about this game?
Let's just ask ktchamp to change the name of the board until after
this week.

Garland/Covefootball.com

Considering it could have been called the Longview/Lufkin board for most of the season it's a nice change of pace don't ya think. ;)

grayowl60

11-22-2005, 02:55 PM

The bread and butter for the Dawgs is the running game. Last week vs. Leander we rushed for 230+. We can and do put the ball in the air, but more to keep the D honest, we do it so little that it usually turns into a huge gain. We mainly run out of an offset I, but go to single set backfield, and shotgun often but can run effectivley out of all of them. QB does a great job with the option when we want to go that route.
OK, so its offset I, with shotgun, and option variations. But no "spread" deal. OK then, OWLS WILL WIN! :D just kidding, should be a great game. good luck.

wide-e-wide

11-22-2005, 03:09 PM

Considering it could have been called the Longview/Lufkin board for most of the season it's a nice change of pace don't ya think. ;)

How has it been the Lufkin/Longview board?...Lufkin owns Longview...and besides...Lufkin and Longview have a long and storied history...there is a lot to talk about...this is just re-posting the same things over and over...

Covedawg

11-22-2005, 04:06 PM

Good one...nt :p

Both teams have claimed pretty good team speed.
Garland's passing is not our #1 weapon, but we can keep the safties honest, how is Cove's passing game
Our running offense helps us control the clock...can Cove score fast?
Garland has battled back before many times this season, how is Cove when they are behind?

answer is YES ! ! Against HArker Heights, the Knights lead 20-14 with about 9 minutes to go 2 minutes and 25 seconds later it was 35-20 Cove and the Dawgs coasted to the finish going away

Against Leander with score 35-21 and 2 minutes to go, Dawgs just gonna run the ball and kill the clock , 2 plays 19 seconds later it was 42-21

that is just two examples of many such scores this season

NOW, the question is , Can the Owls score quick ? Not being a smartazz, I just don't know that much about the Owls offense....

gtownowlfootball06

11-22-2005, 04:17 PM

If we fall behind, yes. We are usually out front and grind it out, but if necessary, we do have the ability.

grayowl60

11-22-2005, 04:17 PM

answer is YES ! ! Against HArker Heights, the Knights lead 20-14 with about 9 minutes to go 2 minutes and 25 seconds later it was 35-20 Cove and the Dawgs coasted to the finish going away

Against Leander with score 35-21 and 2 minutes to go, Dawgs just gonna run the ball and kill the clock , 2 plays 19 seconds later it was 42-21

that is just two examples of many such scores this season

NOW, the question is , Can the Owls score quick ? Not being a smartazz, I just don't know that much about the Owls offense....
No Garland scores slowly. In the game against a very good Ennis team, Garland time of possesion was like 35 min. out of 48. Its been that way in several game for several years. Garland platoons, and I have seen over and over again the D for the other teams worn down in the 4th, while our offense was fresh. We may use 6 or 7 running backs 10 linemen.

Covedawg

11-22-2005, 04:26 PM

OK, so its offset I, with shotgun, and option variations. But no "spread" deal. OK then, OWLS WILL WIN! :D just kidding, should be a great game. good luck.

When Cove lines up in the spread with 5 wide receivers, normally it's a QB draw that goes for 25-30 yards

new's weapon is the "A-train", and Dawg fans know what that is

garlandowl08

11-22-2005, 04:38 PM

No Garland scores slowly. In the game against a very good Ennis team, Garland time of possesion was like 35 min. out of 48. Its been that way in several game for several years. Garland platoons, and I have seen over and over again the D for the other teams worn down in the 4th, while our offense was fresh. We may use 6 or 7 running backs 10 linemen.

I would say that we can score quickly when we need to...

Against DeSoto, we came back from 14 point deficits twice
Against TJT, we came back from 20-7 going into teh fourth quarter and finished the game on the 2 yard line with the score 21-20 Garland.

gtownniggewhat

11-22-2005, 04:56 PM

sloan will own....game over

GHSalumni

11-22-2005, 05:29 PM

I would love to see another dominating game by Donte Sloan, the Ennis game blew me away. He is a extremely fun player to watch because of his ability to break tackles and just run right over people. Reminds me of #10 Weiss from last years team.

grayowl60

11-22-2005, 05:33 PM

When Cove lines up in the spread with 5 wide receivers, normally it's a QB draw that goes for 25-30 yards

new's weapon is the "A-train", and Dawg fans know what that is
We have seen that QB draw several times this year. The Qb gets to meet Mr. Antwine, up close and personal, at about the line of scrimmage. Then we dont see the QB draw after that. Funny how that happens. :eek:

Covedawg

11-22-2005, 06:00 PM

We have seen that QB draw several times this year. The Qb gets to meet Mr. Antwine, up close and personal, at about the line of scrimmage. Then we dont see the QB draw after that. Funny how that happens. :eek:

I wasn't bragging on the draw, that's just how it's been this year, normally it has been a pretty big play, but Cove only runs it 1-2 times a game....This is gonna be a great game if both teams can live up to the hype we fans have put on them.....maybe even get a Central Texas / North Texas rivalry going..
Maybe Garland can replace Judson in the non-district schedule.....

poolangel

11-23-2005, 04:52 AM

Talked to a couple of the Cove coaches yesterday and asked them what they thought? About the game that is. They both felt confindent that we will come away with a win. But I tell you, I've asked them before and the attitude was slightly different. I really believe they are confident, but I also sensed that they know in order to win the game there can be very little or no room for error on the part of either team. In other words, the team that makes the least mistakes will win. You know how you can tell when you talk to a person eye to eye? So I'm sure they are stressing to the team that they will have to be more focused on thier "A" game. The Dawgs are focused and have that look about business as I'm sure the Owls are to. Can't wait, looking forward to it. Hey Owl fans, if you win, how do you think you'd fare against the "Panther Nation" assuming they win? I've seen them play two games and feel good about us defeating them. Go Dawgs and Owls

grayowl60

11-23-2005, 07:05 AM

I wasn't bragging on the draw, that's just how it's been this year, normally it has been a pretty big play, but Cove only runs it 1-2 times a game....This is gonna be a great game if both teams can live up to the hype we fans have put on them.....maybe even get a Central Texas / North Texas rivalry going..
Maybe Garland can replace Judson in the non-district schedule.....
Well, maybe Cove could replace Carter, in tha Owls schedule. Weve seen about all of them we need. Better yet, Cove could play Carter, and Garland could replace the the Carter game with a game with Waco U. :rolleyes:

DawgDave

11-23-2005, 09:12 AM

Concerning "what offense does Cove run?"
Anything and everything from a Pro Set, to Power I, to Veer. They have, at times, put out 5 receivers. They don't use the TE much this year.
They WR's are extremely fast and run good routes. They had problems hanging on to the ball during a mid-season slump, but after the first two games of the playoffs appear to have corrected that.
The QB is agile and quick. Earlier this week Coach Jack Welch was quoted as saying Brent Garner is the best QB he has ever had. That's some praise, especially considering that his son, Josh, was Cove's QB for 3 seasons and is currently starting QB for the University of Mary Hardin Baylor, a Div III power who went all the way to the Div III championship game last year.

DawgDave

11-23-2005, 09:12 AM

pete2

11-23-2005, 09:29 AM

Well, maybe Cove could replace Carter, in tha Owls schedule. Weve seen about all of them we need. Better yet, Cove could play Carter, and Garland could replace the the Carter game with a game with Waco U. :rolleyes:

I have already conceded that you Garland guys have won the "smack contest" on this board and decided to just let the Cove boys take care of business in Waco Statdium where it counts.

In the meantime I take pleasure in reading the predictions. Cove by 4. I do not think "smack talk" enters into the sites equations formula.........

http://www.texasfootballratings.com/20055AWeeklyPicks.html

Just read a review of this site in the local paper:

"For the record, the site has predicted the winners of more than 6,300 high school games this season, with a 78-percent success rate."

http://www.kdhnews.com/sports_4.html

pete2

11-23-2005, 09:31 AM

removed text as duplicate message (same as 32)

garlandowl08

11-23-2005, 10:04 AM

Picks are Picks, half the people are right and half the people are wrong

It will be a great game

WE WILL WIN!

Covedawg

11-23-2005, 02:27 PM

Better yet, Cove could play Carter, and Garland could replace the the Carter game with a game with Waco U. :rolleyes:

BING BING BING BING my sarcasm detector just went off the scale

Waco U normally is a 4A playoff team. . . maybe ya'll should play them

They have a wonderful band, you'll be entertained

grayowl60

11-23-2005, 02:58 PM

BING BING BING BING my sarcasm detector just went off the scale

Waco U normally is a 4A playoff team. . . maybe ya'll should play them

They have a wonderful band, you'll be entertained
We could give you Carter and Ennis for Kileen and WacoU. Hmmmmm? ;)

DawgsFanForLife

11-23-2005, 09:21 PM

Sounds good to me i dont care who we play.

DFFL

pete2

11-23-2005, 09:47 PM

Picks are Picks, half the people are right and half the people are wrong

It will be a great game

WE WILL WIN!

Wrong answer Albert (Einstein) ....... 78% of the time the predictions are accurate. Not 50/50 as you suggest. Stats give edge to Cove by 4 points.

"For the record, the site has predicted the winners of more than 6,300 high school games this season, with a 78-percent success rate."

http://www.kdhnews.com/sports_4.html

grayowl60

11-23-2005, 10:54 PM

Wrong answer Albert (Einstein) ....... 78% of the time the predictions are accurate. Not 50/50 as you suggest. Stats give edge to Cove by 4 points.

"For the record, the site has predicted the winners of more than 6,300 high school games this season, with a 78-percent success rate."

http://www.kdhnews.com/sports_4.html
sch$$#@T, I did almost that good, and im c nile. OWLS WILL WIN

DawgsFanForLife

11-23-2005, 11:04 PM

Lets just hope it is a good game and measures up to all the "hype" we fans say it will be and may the best team win.

DFFL

gtowndrumma

11-24-2005, 01:52 AM

i dont care what those stats say, the last two weeks they have predicted garland to lose and it hasnt happened yet....... cant wait for friday, and may the best team win

GoOwls

11-24-2005, 02:12 AM

We have had our fair share of close games too. We have had every type of situation you could think of. The only difference between our teams is that we have overcome all situations with wins, when obviously the Owls have not. Good Luck Friday Night!!!!!!!!!!

The Massey Computer Rankings have Garland with the 4th toughest schedule in the state and The Cove at #56. It's a bit tougher to win all your games playing the best teams, rather than playing a number of inferior teams. All of Garlands' 4 non-district games featured playoff teams, plus the two from our district, for a total of 6 of 10 games against playoff teams. You argument, like a sieve, doesn't hold water.

FootballJunkie

11-24-2005, 02:12 PM

The Massey Computer Rankings have Garland with the 4th toughest schedule in the state and The Cove at #56. It's a bit tougher to win all your games playing the best teams, rather than playing a number of inferior teams. All of Garlands' 4 non-district games featured playoff teams, plus the two from our district, for a total of 6 of 10 games against playoff teams. You argument, like a sieve, doesn't hold water.

Which ones of those 5A "playoff teams" are still playing??? Only 1 and that is SG with a fluke win over Longview, Desoto 6-5 record and Plano East also 6-5 so perhaps they are not as good as you would like us to believe. And of those playoff teams you lost to 2 of them so like a sieve your argument does not hold water either!! Because 3 teams from every district make the playoffs anyway...every team can say they played at least 2 playoff teams every year dude.

Covedawg

11-24-2005, 11:21 PM

Well if you want to count two of the Playoff teams Cove has defeated this season are still playing in the 3rd round

Converse Judson and Consolidated are still playing and should be around next week as well....

I since a large leak in the water bucket ........

19 hours and the show gets started

then the "superowls" will take that slow walk to the parking lot, slappin' at their ears...what is that song that is ringing in their heads, can't seem to get rid of it, it won't go away......

Who let the Dawgs out !!, Who, Who Who
Who let the Dawgs Out

You will learn to hate it, but alas your not alone, there are 12 others schools with fans having the same problem

gtowndrumma

11-24-2005, 11:24 PM

18 hrs till the strays get put to sleep!

seriously though... good luck to both teams, and i hope to see the winner of this game playing on Dec. 17

UTftball05

11-25-2005, 12:56 AM

I have already conceded that you Garland guys have won the "smack contest" on this board and decided to just let the Cove boys take care of business in Waco Statdium where it counts.

In the meantime I take pleasure in reading the predictions. Cove by 4. I do not think "smack talk" enters into the sites equations formula.........

http://www.texasfootballratings.com/20055AWeeklyPicks.html

Just read a review of this site in the local paper:

"For the record, the site has predicted the winners of more than 6,300 high school games this season, with a 78-percent success rate."

http://www.kdhnews.com/sports_4.html

In reply to this, I do not know where to find the picks for last week but I'm sure Carter was picked to win and before this week Carter was ranked ahead of Copperas Cove so I don't think those picks matter too much right now. Good luck to both teams!

Brant_Scott_76

11-25-2005, 08:15 AM

go get em cove

owlfan 1

11-25-2005, 10:33 AM

See you all in a few hours...

I hope we all did not get too full of turkey, 'cause theres a big helping of crow coming to half of us... :D

May the best team win (that would be the Owls ;) ).

pete2

11-25-2005, 11:01 AM

In reply to this, I do not know where to find the picks for last week but I'm sure Carter was picked to win and before this week Carter was ranked ahead of Copperas Cove so I don't think those picks matter too much right now. Good luck to both teams!

It is not easy finding historical rankings. Without spending a lot of time I found this one from week 4. Copperas Cove was ranked 9 and a week or so later ranked 8. Dallas Carter's last ranking was number 11 I believe.

http://hstexas.scout.com/2/441292.html

However, I like the system of throwing out the rankings once we enter the playoffs. Kind of like when we enter the district season it is just like starting out from scratch again. In the playoffs we start out from scratch ever week.

One never knows.... for instance to me one of the hardest opponents Cove faced this season on a particular Friday night was the Waco Lions who only won maybe 2 games this season. However on their big rivarly night with Copperas Cove, they played their best and Copperas Cove had to play their best in 3 OT's to defeat them. On that particular night Waco could have beaten many other teams in our district.

That game is one that helped us prepare for the playoffs.......

gtownowlfootball06

11-25-2005, 11:36 AM

I'm so excited! This better be a good game, because we are giving it a lot of hype. Seey ya'll in 6 and a half hours.

COVE THUNDER

11-25-2005, 11:56 AM

Ill be there... go gettem Dogs!!!!!!!!

supercentex

11-25-2005, 12:49 PM

There will be alot of Cove fans there and they will be pretty loud.

gtownowlfootball06

11-25-2005, 01:18 PM

We will show up as well and we will be loud. We are 2 hours away, but we will still fill the stands and we are going to be REAL rowdy. This one is gonna be loud and it is gonna be good. I can't wait.

COVE THUNDER

11-25-2005, 01:44 PM

Well here we are about four and a half hours until game time. Cove fans dont forget to bring your cowbells and if you dont have one then bring something to make noise with. You better get there early as you probably already know that the cove side will be full. This is going to be a great game but we will need all aspects of our game to include the crowd. Good luck to all may the best team win....... Go Gettem Dawgs

P.S. If for some weird reson we are losing in the forth quarter please do not leave early.. Show these kids some respect. They have worked hard all year and disserve it...:)

DawgsFanForLife

11-25-2005, 01:47 PM

We are not going any where regardless of the score. We know we are there to see two of the best teams in HS football square off and they got business to settle.

GO DAWGS!!!

DFFL

DawgsFanForLife

11-25-2005, 10:23 PM

Final

Cove 30
Garland 14

DFFL

Covedawg

11-25-2005, 11:48 PM

Covedawg

11-25-2005, 11:51 PM

GTown02

11-25-2005, 11:59 PM

I guess the Owls let the Dawgs out ?
No offense to Cove in anyway, but that is the DUMBEST song ever...

huge-cove-fan

11-26-2005, 12:02 AM

turn in date for the gay owls is the 28 sorry but yall suck

owlfan 1

11-26-2005, 12:16 AM

..you're a real credit to your team, buddy. Both teams played exremely hard and did themselves proud.

Best of luck to Cove the rest of the way - and perhaps you can learn to have some class.

GTown02

11-26-2005, 12:47 AM

..you're a real credit to your team, buddy. Both teams played exremely hard and did themselves proud.

Best of luck to Cove the rest of the way - and perhaps you can learn to have some class.Dont worry... Most people who join this board during the postseason dont stay long after their team loses ;).

DawgsFanForLife

11-26-2005, 10:43 AM

Garland did not "suck", that was not kool. Garland played a good game and has a good team but they did get beat. Thats it, time to move on and get prepared for our next game.

Quite dwelling on the "trash talking" from last week as both teams had tons of that crap. now its over so hang your head up and lets move on to something else.

They did not give up but probable did not play their best game. They appeared tired to me about half way through the 4th quarter.

We won and that was what we wanted to accomplish with this game.

Garland may be back next year so if we ever meet again they will have revenge on their minds but that is still a lllloooonnnngggg way away so lets stay focused on the task at hand and that is preparing for the next contest.

Regardless of who we play next week, we will be the underdog so lets get prepared and show em what we are all about.

DFFL