View Full Version : What Texas needs to happen.
HUM398
11-03-2008, 12:24 PM
After the loss at Tech this past weekend, Texas has rightfully given the baton to Tech as the leader of the Big 12. Although we have dropped to No. 4 in the BCS rankings, their is a very good possiblity that would could be 1 or 2 when its all said and done. The truth is that the loss put us out of the drivers seat, and our berth will depend on many factors coming into play.
1. Texas needs Bama to lose to LSU- This will put the SEC and Big 12 pretty much even coming out of their respective Conferences championships. As well as knock Bama out from the number 1 spot, pushing Penn or Tech up to one and assuming a Texas domination this weekend they would move up them up to 3.
2. Texas NEEDS OSU to beat Tech this weekend, a huge part of my theory depends and thrives on this notion. a loss by Okie lite would obviously drop Tech below Texas. Everything working right(with 1 occuring), we could see Texas No. 2 at best next week in the polls if that were to occur...again Assuming Texas dominates this weekend, and a Bama loss.
3. It is best for Texas that OU beat Tech, but then lose to OSU.
These factors would help Texas get the lock on a Big 12 game assuming we win out in an impressive fashion. A Big 12 win would throw Texas into the NC title over an SEC Team...regardless of who it is. A loss to a Top 10 team, and a Big 12 title is better then anything the SEC can throw at the Big 12. It would be a Big 10 vs. Big 12 title....
A Penn state loss to Michigan State at Penn would also help for a much more competitive NC game. Lets all pray that the latter happen no matter which Big 12 team makes it to the top.....
chunky79
11-03-2008, 12:37 PM
texas sucks, they lost to tech. WOW. major suckage
After the loss at Tech this past weekend, Texas has rightfully given the baton to Tech as the leader of the Big 12. Although we have dropped to No. 4 in the BCS rankings, their is a very good possiblity that would could be 1 or 2 when its all said and done. The truth is that the loss put us out of the drivers seat, and our berth will depend on many factors coming into play.
1. Texas needs Bama to lose to LSU- This will put the SEC and Big 12 pretty much even coming out of their respective Conferences championships. As well as knock Bama out from the number 1 spot, pushing Penn or Tech up to one and assuming a Texas domination this weekend they would move up them up to 3.
2. Texas NEEDS OSU to beat Tech this weekend, a huge part of my theory depends and thrives on this notion. a loss by Okie lite would obviously drop Tech below Texas. Everything working right(with 1 occuring), we could see Texas No. 2 at best next week in the polls if that were to occur...again Assuming Texas dominates this weekend, and a Bama loss.
3. It is best for Texas that OU beat Tech, but then lose to OSU.
These factors would help Texas get the lock on a Big 12 game assuming we win out in an impressive fashion. A Big 12 win would throw Texas into the NC title over an SEC Team...regardless of who it is. A loss to a Top 10 team, and a Big 12 title is better then anything the SEC can throw at the Big 12. It would be a Big 10 vs. Big 12 title....
A Penn state loss to Michigan State at Penn would also help for a much more competitive NC game. Lets all pray that the latter happen no matter which Big 12 team makes it to the top.....
I'm telling you HUM... after the game ended I looked at both my fellow alums who were watching with me.. And I told them not to worry because..
1. Bama has to dodge 2 bullets
2. Tech has to dodge 3 bullets
3. Penn State could still lose at Michigan State
With us sitting at #4.. We really are in a great position to pounce when these things occur... I believe Bama and Tech will both lose at least 1 of these games.. UT batting almost 1000 on our BCS rating was HUGE because it kept us from falling further down the rankings... I think we had a .9986 rating last week... That was monumental.. We are in great shape.. If I cant be #1, I will take a spot that is in pouncing position and we got it..
HUM398
11-03-2008, 01:51 PM
I'm telling you HUM... after the game ended I looked at both my fellow alums who were watching with me.. And I told them not to worry because..
1. Bama has to dodge 2 bullets
2. Tech has to dodge 3 bullets
3. Penn State could still lose at Michigan State
With us sitting at #4.. We really are in a great position to pounce when these things occur... I believe Bama and Tech will both lose at least 1 of these games.. UT batting almost 1000 on our BCS rating was HUGE because it kept us from falling further down the rankings... I think we had a .9986 rating last week... That was monumental.. We are in great shape.. If I cant be #1, I will take a spot that is in pouncing position and we got it..
Still don't like to wait on other teams to hopefully trip up...Tech can win out, and so could Bama... But Tech is the less likely given the tougher schedule.
Still don't like to wait on other teams to hopefully trip up...Tech can win out, and so could Bama... But Tech is the less likely given the tougher schedule.
I dont like it either... But would you have rather had dropped out of striking position?... Yea me neither... We were thrown a life line due to our high rating the first 2 weeks of the BCS... I knew the Harris and Coaches poll would do us no favors... Texas had this ability due to their play vs OU, Mizzou, and OSU... In my mind UT is deserving of the right to be in position to reap the benifits when someone stumbles...
slorch
11-03-2008, 02:02 PM
i have always hated the BCS, and the playoff opponents always have said the current system makes every game count. So, if i am wrong, if Tech loses one game against OU or OSU, Texas will move ahead of Tech, even though Tech beat the Horns. That means the Tech win meant nothing.
that is System Failure on a couple different levels...
i have always hated the BCS, and the playoff opponents always have said the current system makes every game count. So, if i am wrong, if Tech loses one game against OU or OSU, Texas will move ahead of Tech, even though Tech beat the Horns. That means the Tech win meant nothing.
that is System Failure on a couple different levels...
That is exactly what will happen. If Oklahoma wins out they are likely to pass Texas as well despite losing so it is an endless amount of bull:Censor:.
lonny23
11-03-2008, 02:10 PM
Still don't like to wait on other teams to hopefully trip up...Tech can win out, and so could Bama... But Tech is the less likely given the tougher schedule.
Alabama has the best odds to lose. They actually play a team I think is better than them. Tech and Penn State don't.
farmerfan
11-03-2008, 02:16 PM
A few things were clear to me after this weekend.
First, how the hell did UF lose to Ole Miss?
UF will beat the Gumps in Atlanta
The Big 12 South is the best conference in all of America this year and IMO its not a close second. Props to ya'll :notworthy
Damn Bobo sucks as an OC and UGA sucked hard core this weekend.
A true national title game IMO would be 2 1 loss teams from the Big 12 south this year.
Truly impressed with that division and overall conference.
i have always hated the BCS, and the playoff opponents always have said the current system makes every game count. So, if i am wrong, if Tech loses one game against OU or OSU, Texas will move ahead of Tech, even though Tech beat the Horns. That means the Tech win meant nothing.
that is System Failure on a couple different levels...
What it will have meant is that Texas' fate was out of their control. The game did matter. In a playoff scenario, this game = Texas beating Kansas in basketball last season. Remember that one?
Secondarily, in that scenario., it would meant beating the #1 team in the country by 10 at a neutral site > better than beating the #1 team at home by 6.
d-train
11-03-2008, 02:55 PM
Kansas had the best all around team and the most depth, UT has no defense and no running game. USC or Florida are the Jayhawks. UT is UT! They better play better than #64 defense, since USC and Florida both have great defenses and offenses!
RedRage00
11-03-2008, 04:12 PM
yeah, I never thought I'd be rooting for OSU or OU lol
PirateParent2011
11-03-2008, 04:25 PM
I'm telling you HUM... after the game ended I looked at both my fellow alums who were watching with me.. And I told them not to worry because..
1. Bama has to dodge 2 bullets
2. Tech has to dodge 3 bullets
3. Penn State could still lose at Michigan State
With us sitting at #4.. We really are in a great position to pounce when these things occur... I believe Bama and Tech will both lose at least 1 of these games.. UT batting almost 1000 on our BCS rating was HUGE because it kept us from falling further down the rankings... I think we had a .9986 rating last week... That was monumental.. We are in great shape.. If I cant be #1, I will take a spot that is in pouncing position and we got it..
Yep! :)
yeah, I never thought I'd be rooting for OSU or OU lol
I know it... Its what we are relegated to at this point... Others seem to want us to appologize for it and I am not.... Its the crappy system we play under and until its changed... EVERY team that can, should use it to benefit in ways that help them.
PirateParent2011
11-03-2008, 04:27 PM
yeah, I never thought I'd be rooting for OSU or OU lol
This. :D
RedRage00
11-03-2008, 04:31 PM
I know it... Its what we are relegated to at this point... Others seem to want us to appologize for it and I am not.... Its the crappy system we play under and until its changed... EVERY team that can, should use it to benefit in ways that help them.
There were teams rooting for Tech this past weekend for the same reasons we'll root for OSU and OU. If they can do it, so can we. :D
There were teams rooting for Tech this past weekend for the same reasons we'll root for OSU and OU. If they can do it, so can we. :D
Exactly...:cool:
Firebird
11-03-2008, 04:38 PM
I know it... Its what we are relegated to at this point... Others seem to want us to appologize for it and I am not.... Its the crappy system we play under and until its changed... EVERY team that can, should use it to benefit in ways that help them.
I don't want you to apologize for it. I relish it.
I don't want you to apologize for it. I relish it.
Hey me to... I'm relishing right there with you...;)
Many of you are getting WAY ahead of yourselves.
What Texas need to do is beat Baylor, which may be more difficult than normal, especially as banged up as we are.
Beat Kansas up there. Something tells me we will get a different effort from them than Tech did.
Take care of a$m. We do that, the probable worst case is we are sitting at #4 in the BCS. Lose any of those and it is melt down time. Win out and we are doing well.
Focus on what's in front of us, not what may/may not.
RedRage00
11-03-2008, 04:45 PM
I don't want you to apologize for it. I relish it.
We need a "talk to the hand" smiley ;)
Many of you are getting WAY ahead of yourselves.
What Texas need to do is beat Baylor, which may be more difficult than normal, especially as banged up as we are.
Beat Kansas up there. Something tells me we will get a different effort from them than Tech did.
Take care of a$m. We do that, the probable worst case is we are sitting at #4 in the BCS. Lose any of those and it is melt down time. Win out and we are doing well.
Focus on what's in front of us, not what may/may not.
This is fan stuff... We dont play on the team so it doesnt matter what we say with 4 weeks to go...
This is fan stuff... We dont play on the team so it doesnt matter what we say with 4 weeks to go...
Are you saying that the shirt I wear on gameday doesn't have an impact? You don't think that being too confident can be a jinx? You need to back up a bit buddy!!!
lonny23
11-03-2008, 04:52 PM
A few things were clear to me after this weekend.
First, how the hell did UF lose to Ole Miss?
UF will beat the Gumps in Atlanta
The Big 12 South is the best conference in all of America this year and IMO its not a close second. Props to ya'll :notworthy
Damn Bobo sucks as an OC and UGA sucked hard core this weekend.
A true national title game IMO would be 2 1 loss teams from the Big 12 south this year.
Truly impressed with that division and overall conference.I think the fair thing is 2 Big 12 South teams for the title. Which 2 is still to be determined.
Are you saying that the shirt I wear on gameday doesn't have an impact? You don't think that being too confident can be a jinx? You need to back up a bit buddy!!!
Goofy.... I dont believe in the boogy man either...:laugh
Firebird
11-03-2008, 04:56 PM
I think the fair thing is 2 Big 12 South teams for the title. Which 2 is still to be determined.
No, that wouldn't be any good at all. I do not think that two teams that already played should ever be matched up in the NC game. No need to replay something that already happened. It's not fair to the team that got the job done the first time.
Goofy.... I dont believe in the boogy man either...:laugh
Well the boogy man is just silly.....
No, that wouldn't be any good at all. I do not think that two teams that already played should ever be matched up in the NC game. No need to replay something that already happened. It's not fair to the team that got the job done the first time.
I agree completely.. Its already happened once.. Nobody wants to see it again..
lonny23
11-03-2008, 05:02 PM
I know it... Its what we are relegated to at this point... Others seem to want us to appologize for it and I am not.... Its the crappy system we play under and until its changed... EVERY team that can, should use it to benefit in ways that help them.
I don't blame you guys for most of your thinking. I do think you'd be better served by hoping for Tech to win and others to lose. I know you want people to lose, but Tech losing doesn't help you as much as the others losing.
Well the boogy man is just silly.....
So are superstitions...
I don't blame you guys for most of your thinking. I do think you'd be better served by hoping for Tech to win and others to lose. I know you want people to lose, but Tech losing doesn't help you as much as the others losing.
No way.. A Tech loss is best for us..
Firebird
11-03-2008, 05:06 PM
I don't blame you guys for most of your thinking. I do think you'd be better served by hoping for Tech to win and others to lose. I know you want people to lose, but Tech losing doesn't help you as much as the others losing.
Huh? Lonny, this makes no sense at all. If I am a Texas fan, I need Tech to lose because that is the ONLY way that UT gets into the CCG and possibly NC game. It can't happen if Tech wins out. If I am a UT fan, I want TTU to lose twice if possible, once to OU. Then UT gets into the CCG thanks to the head to head win.
You were right on your prediction for the game, but I don't see how you are trying to convince UT fans that it's better for them if TTU wins the conference.
lonny23
11-03-2008, 05:06 PM
Are you saying that the shirt I wear on gameday doesn't have an impact? You don't think that being too confident can be a jinx? You need to back up a bit buddy!!!
Being too confident doesn't affect anything unless the players take the same attitude.
HUM398
11-03-2008, 05:09 PM
Huh? Lonny, this makes no sense at all. If I am a Texas fan, I need Tech to lose because that is the ONLY way that UT gets into the CCG and possibly NC game. It can't happen if Tech wins out. If I am a UT fan, I want TTU to lose twice if possible, once to OU. Then UT gets into the CCG thanks to the head to head win.
You were right on your prediction for the game, but I don't see how you are trying to convince UT fans that it's better for them if TTU wins the conference.
i gave up trying to figure him out a long time ago.
lonny23
11-03-2008, 05:10 PM
No, that wouldn't be any good at all. I do not think that two teams that already played should ever be matched up in the NC game. No need to replay something that already happened. It's not fair to the team that got the job done the first time.
It's not a great feeling to blow the 2nd game, but it's also not fair to penalize #2 for having to play #1. If we're #1, I'll play whoever moves into #2. I don't care if it's the Sooners, 'horns, or Cowboys.
Favpack
11-03-2008, 05:12 PM
Let's make a pact - if Tech beats Okie St. impressively - root for the Red Raiders against OU. C'mon now - you know if OU beats Tech - they get in the drivers seat - and Texas teams get screwed.
C'mon Horn fan - take one for the State.
lonny23
11-03-2008, 05:23 PM
Huh? Lonny, this makes no sense at all. If I am a Texas fan, I need Tech to lose because that is the ONLY way that UT gets into the CCG and possibly NC game. It can't happen if Tech wins out. If I am a UT fan, I want TTU to lose twice if possible, once to OU. Then UT gets into the CCG thanks to the head to head win.
You were right on your prediction for the game, but I don't see how you are trying to convince UT fans that it's better for them if TTU wins the conference.It's very simple. Tech winning keeps your human poll points up, but more importantly keeps your computer rankings up.
You want to have your only loss be to the #1 team on the road. You don't want them to lose and make your loss look worse. Texas doesn't need Tech to lose because Florida is gaining steam in the eyes of others.
1. Root for Penn State to lose.
2. Hope 'bama and Florida lose.
3. Win your games.
4. You'll get a chance at revenge with Tech.
As far as history goes:
2001 Nebraska was #1 and lost at Colorado. The Buffs beat Texas in the CCG and the 'huskers played for a title.
2003 OU lost the Big 12 to K-State and still played for a title.
The one worry I'd have as a 'horn is if the media is determined to pick a SEC team over a 2nd Big 12 team.
lonny23
11-03-2008, 05:26 PM
Let's make a pact - if Tech beats Okie St. impressively - root for the Red Raiders against OU. C'mon now - you know if OU beats Tech - they get in the drivers seat - and Texas teams get screwed.
C'mon Horn fan - take one for the State.I'm willing to take one for the state. I said over a month ago I wanted a Tech-Texas National Title Game and I hate Texas. That would be a majorly hyped game if we get a Part 2!:D
Firebird
11-03-2008, 05:28 PM
It's very simple. Tech winning keeps your human poll points up, but more importantly keeps your computer rankings up.
You want to have your only loss be to the #1 team on the road. You don't want them to lose and make your loss look worse. Texas doesn't need Tech to lose because Florida is gaining steam in the eyes of others.
1. Root for Penn State to lose.
2. Hope 'bama and Florida lose.
3. Win your games.
4. You'll get a chance at revenge with Tech.
As far as history goes:
2001 Nebraska was #1 and lost at Colorado. The Buffs beat Texas in the CCG and the 'huskers played for a title.
2003 OU lost the Big 12 to K-State and still played for a title.
The one worry I'd have as a 'horn is if the media is determined to pick a SEC team over a 2nd Big 12 team.
Lonny, that makes no sense at all. If you are Texas, your easiest route to the NC is to get to the Big XII CCG and win it. For that to happen for certain, Tech needs to drop two, one to OU. That's what Horn needs to hope for. There is not going to be a Big XII title game, bank on it.
Favpack
11-03-2008, 05:30 PM
I'm willing to take one for the state. I said over a month ago I wanted a Tech-Texas National Title Game and I hate Texas. That would be a majorly hyped game if we get a Part 2!:D
I guarantee you ESPN loved it Sat. night - many said it was the best game in three years - and I bet ratings were off the charts.
I don't think that happens - but who knows.
Favpack
11-03-2008, 05:34 PM
Lonny, that makes no sense at all. If you are Texas, your easiest route to the NC is to get to the Big XII CCG and win it. For that to happen for certain, Tech needs to drop two, one to OU. That's what Horn needs to hope for. There is not going to be a Big XII title game, bank on it.
I fear a real danger of letting OU back into the drivers seat - as I noted above. UT fans will root for Okie St. this week, but you're playing with fire if you think an undefeated Tech's loss at OU helps UT. As is usually the case - the SEC OR the B12 gets shafted because the conf. championship game only screws them - and doesn't help arbitrarily every year.
It helps Florida this year, but kills the B12 south. Last year, the SEC champ. game did nothing but possibly hurt LSU.
Firebird
11-03-2008, 05:39 PM
I fear a real danger of letting OU back into the drivers seat - as I noted above. UT fans will root for Okie St. this week, but you're playing with fire if you think an undefeated Tech's loss at OU helps UT. As is usually the case - the SEC OR the B12 gets shafted because the conf. championship game only screws them - and doesn't help arbitrarily every year.
It helps Florida this year, but kills the B12 south. Last year, the SEC champ. game did nothing but possibly hurt LSU.
That's why if I am a UT fan, I want OSU and OU to beat Tech. Again, IF I am a UT fan. If Tech drops two, then UT gets in the CCG over OU because of head2head.
lonny23
11-03-2008, 05:52 PM
Lonny, that makes no sense at all. If you are Texas, your easiest route to the NC is to get to the Big XII CCG and win it. For that to happen for certain, Tech needs to drop two, one to OU. That's what Horn needs to hope for. There is not going to be a Big XII title game, bank on it.
Even if Tech loses, UT has to have 1 or 2 other teams to lose and they still have to worry about OU maybe jumping them. Since people are saying the SEC is weaker, you might only need a Penn State loss and a 'bama loss.
All it takes is 2 or 3 teams to lose.
Firebird
11-03-2008, 05:54 PM
Even if Tech loses, UT has to have 1 or 2 other teams to lose and they still have to worry about OU maybe jumping them. Since people are saying the SEC is weaker, you might only need a Penn State loss and a 'bama loss.
All it takes is 2 or 3 teams to lose.
If TTU loses to OSU and OU (which is what I've been saying UT fans should hope for), OU will not jump them so long as UT takes care of business and wins the CCG. UT will be in the CCG in that event.
It's Tech losing only one game, to OU that should have UT fans worried. OU could jump them then.
Favpack
11-03-2008, 05:56 PM
That's why if I am a UT fan, I want OSU and OU to beat Tech. Again, IF I am a UT fan. If Tech drops two, then UT gets in the CCG over OU because of head2head.
I understand....
Here's my stance as a UT first, Tech second (or third or fourth - depending on what other Texas U's we're discussing) fan. I root for Okie St. this weekend, BUT if they lose, then I root for Tech to win out. I'd rather see Graham Harrell throwing to Crabtree - than Bradford to Iglesias.
lonny23
11-03-2008, 05:57 PM
That's why if I am a UT fan, I want OSU and OU to beat Tech. Again, IF I am a UT fan. If Tech drops two, then UT gets in the CCG over OU because of head2head.
1. Nebraska played for a title and didn't make the CCG. Colorado beating Texas probably put them over the top to play for a title.
2. OU played for a title and lost the CCG.
3. Sometimes the title game hurts your schedule strength.
4. The last time I checked, somebody from the South is going to play Kansas or Mizzou in KC in December. It's a road game and not a cinch win.
5. The best plan at times is to not play and watch others lose.
6. If LSU beats 'bama and Penn State loses this week, I bet all the UT fans will be perfectly happy to take 11-1 and play Tech again. I know you guys want to win the Big 12, but you don't have to do it to play for a national title.
lonny23
11-03-2008, 05:58 PM
If TTU loses to OSU and OU (which is what I've been saying UT fans should hope for), OU will not jump them so long as UT takes care of business and wins the CCG. UT will be in the CCG in that event.
It's Tech losing only one game, to OU that should have UT fans worried. OU could jump them then.
All Tech losing does is move you up to 3rd. 'bama could lose to Florida and you still might not move up to #2 because they might jump you.
lonny23
11-03-2008, 06:03 PM
Guys, it's simple. When you're #4, you root for 2 teams to lose and hope you don't get jumped. You don't worry about who loses.
I bet Penn State fans aren't all up in arms about wanting Tech to lose. I bet they're just hoping for either Tech or 'bama to lose.
I'd have no gripes if you guys said you wanted Tech to lose so you can win the Big 12. I'm just disagreeing that it's the only way for you to play for a national title.
HUM398
11-03-2008, 06:21 PM
Even if Tech loses, UT has to have 1 or 2 other teams to lose and they still have to worry about OU maybe jumping them. Since people are saying the SEC is weaker, you might only need a Penn State loss and a 'bama loss.
All it takes is 2 or 3 teams to lose.
Didn't you read the beginning of this thread.
If Tech loses to OSU, then Tech will drop below UT....and a loss at Norman will give Texas the Title game because of the head to head. Regardless if OU passes Texas in the polls, the Extra game will send Texas over OU against a likely ranked Mizzou.
The worst thing that could happen to Texas is Tech lose to OSU, and then beat OU at Oklahoma...It would give Tech the upper hand in the title game because of the head to head.
GameTyme
11-03-2008, 06:23 PM
They will never let 2 teams from the same conference play for the BCS tittle game. Much less the same state.
We really need Tech to loose any game doesnt matter which one to me. I prefer OSU but if it takes OU well go Boomer Sooner. Im worried about Florida jumping Texas even though I think Florida is severely overrated this season think about they lost at home to Ole Miss led by a QB that transferred from Texas because he couldnt play here. They were 9-4 last season loosing to Michigan:eek: in the Capital One Bowl. The SEC is down this year so they shoudl be able to run the table assuming they dont blow it against Vanderbuilt. I think we all want Penn State to loose so we dont have to watch another Big 10 school get ran out of the stadium vs Tech or Texas or Maybe OU. It is possible they my blow it against Michigan State.
I think Tech and Bama loose for sure before the season is over that is good enough to put UT at #2 assuming Florida doesnt vault in front of them. A Penn State loss would be the best but is less likely.
lonny23
11-03-2008, 06:24 PM
Didn't you read the beginning of this thread.
If Tech loses to OSU, then Tech will drop below UT....and a loss at Norman will give Texas the Title game because of the head to head. Regardless if OU passes Texas in the polls, the Extra game will send Texas over OU against a likely ranked Mizzou.
The worst thing that could happen to Texas is Tech lose to OSU, and then beat OU at Oklahoma...It would give Tech the upper hand in the title game because of the head to head.I've read everything in this thread. You guys are so focused on Tech losing and playing in the Big 12 Title Game that you're forgetting about passing Penn State and being in front of both SEC teams.
You don't need Tech to lose to play in Miami. Yes, you can move up from it, but it's still not enough.
HUM398
11-03-2008, 06:26 PM
Guys, it's simple. When you're #4, you root for 2 teams to lose and hope you don't get jumped. You don't worry about who loses.
I bet Penn State fans aren't all up in arms about wanting Tech to lose. I bet they're just hoping for either Tech or 'bama to lose.
I'd have no gripes if you guys said you wanted Tech to lose so you can win the Big 12. I'm just disagreeing that it's the only way for you to play for a national title.
Its the most likely thing to happen. 85% probability is what i would give the Big 12 champion to be in the NC game. If Tech doesn't play in the Title game, they really don't have a case...A loss to OSU and OU would render their argument to be ahead of Texas null, because Texas beat both those teams... The voters won't side with tech in that scenario. A loss only to Oklahoma works also, because it goes to the highest ranked team...which in that scenario could leave OU or Texas playing for the title depending on other teams.
Two Big 12 teams WILL NOT play for a National title...won't happen. So the best case for Texas is a two loss Tech.
Guys, it's simple. When you're #4, you root for 2 teams to lose and hope you don't get jumped. You don't worry about who loses.
I bet Penn State fans aren't all up in arms about wanting Tech to lose. I bet they're just hoping for either Tech or 'bama to lose.
I'd have no gripes if you guys said you wanted Tech to lose so you can win the Big 12. I'm just disagreeing that it's the only way for you to play for a national title.
It is much easier for Texas to make it to the CCG and the NCG is Okie Lite wins out to finish the season and Tech beats Oklahoma. Three way tie will go to Texas.
There is no easier path to the championship game than through the Big XII conference championship. The voters might put an SEC champ Florida ahead of Texas but they won't put an SEC champ Florida ahead of Big XII champ Texas.
GameTyme
11-03-2008, 06:28 PM
Didn't you read the beginning of this thread.
If Tech loses to OSU, then Tech will drop below UT....and a loss at Norman will give Texas the Title game because of the head to head. Regardless if OU passes Texas in the polls, the Extra game will send Texas over OU against a likely ranked Mizzou.
The worst thing that could happen to Texas is Tech lose to OSU, and then beat OU at Oklahoma...It would give Tech the upper hand in the title game because of the head to head.
Maybe not because what if OSU beat OU and runs the table they end up 7-1 along with Texas and Tech. Sending the highest rated BCS school into the CCG.
HUM398
11-03-2008, 06:31 PM
I've read everything in this thread. You guys are so focused on Tech losing and playing in the Big 12 Title Game that you're forgetting about passing Penn State and being in front of both SEC teams.
You don't need Tech to lose to play in Miami. Yes, you can move up from it, but it's still not enough.
No we only need Bama to lose, and then Texas has a case for the title. why? Because the Big 12 is the stronger conference this year. Most years you would be right, but a 1 loss Big 12 team beats a 1 loss or even 2 loss SEC team.
Penn is a non factor...because them staying or going has no bearing in my opinion on the title game. I just want 1 of the top 2 spots, because we will sort the rest out at the NC game.
HUM398
11-03-2008, 06:36 PM
Maybe not because what if OSU beat OU and runs the table they end up 7-1 along with Texas and Tech. Sending the highest rated BCS school into the CCG.
it could send Tech higher then Texas, but could also work for Texas depending on where they put Tech...
it could send Tech higher then Texas, but could also work for Texas depending on where they put Tech...
Won't happen. They lose at home to Okie Lite they will drop behind Texas guaranteed.
cougardude
11-03-2008, 06:45 PM
yeah, I never thought I'd be rooting for OSU or OU lol
Me neither!:D
HUM398
11-03-2008, 06:49 PM
Won't happen. They lose at home to Okie Lite they will drop behind Texas guaranteed.
ah yes, i forgot that i had them losing to osu at jones.
GameTyme
11-03-2008, 06:50 PM
it could send Tech higher then Texas, but could also work for Texas depending on where they put Tech...
Is it safe to say that I will not be alone being Dez Bryants biggest fan this week :D.
HUM398
11-03-2008, 06:55 PM
Is it safe to say that I will not be alone being Dez Bryants biggest fan this week :D.
Im a huge Bryant fan...just when he isn't playing Texas. Dez is one of the best pure WR's i have seen in a long long time. Kid is a Randy Moss type with his super athletic build, and huge hands...and kid is blazing fast.
Crabtree edges him out though, he just tremendous after the catch ability... Id take Dez though in a jump ball situation
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